@focusontheargument hahaha kabede uyuyup abdest almadan namaz kılan araplar nerden marstan mı?? hadi ben balkan göçmeniyim lan komşularımızıda görüyorum onlarda benzemiyor!
@lonely54 Abdestin sadece namazla bir alakasi olduguna ancak senin gibi Avrupalilasmis muslumanlari inaniyorlar. Abdest bambaska bir sey. Neyse Balkan slavi, sozlerin yerinde tutmuyorsun maalesef.
@focusontheargument sanki ben sadece namazla alakalı dedim ne malsın sen! ağzımdan çıktı mı öyle birşey sazan gibi atlıyorsun? Uyumak abdesti bozar siz araplar uyandıktan sonra namaza duruyorsunuz!
@focusontheargument lan görmesem etmesem bu kadar ısrarın üzerine benziyolardır herhalde dicemde gördüm malesef yemezler :)) siktir git arap türkler araplaşmayacak!
@lonely54 Turklerin isleri seni ilgilendirmez,ama Araplasmaya gelince,Araplar aslinda Turklesmisler.Araplarin cogu bedevi gibi degil,Osmanlilar gibi yasiyorlar.Ama onu da kusurlu beyninle anlamazsin.
@lonely54 Turk degilsin, Balkan gocmenisin asilsiz kerhane cocugu, cingene pezevenginin evraksiz evladi. TURKU HAYALINDE GORUYORSUN ANCAK, vatan haini!
@lonely54 Ben mi inkar ettim?Yani etnik kimlik ve irk arasindaki farkini anlamadin? Gercekten geri zekalisin ha :) Haline aciyorum. Ne bicim insansin sen, Turk bacagina bir tas gibisin.
@focusontheargument bir arap beni türk olarak görse ne görmese ne :)) amına sokayım senin ben kendimi biliyorum, kendini bilmeyen çelişen sensin, senin ırkına etnik kimliğine sokayım! Asalak parazit!
@lonely54 Turkler de seni Turk degil, devsirme soyu olarak gorurler. Bunu herkes bilir, yoksa senin gibilere GOCMEN demezlerdi. Asalak parazit sensin, ecdadin Bosna Hersekte kalsaydi?? Kim asiyor?
@lonely54 Etnik kimligi ve irk arasindaki farkini bilmemeye tepki: senin irkina etnik kimligine sokayim :) Iste beyinsizlik. Turkiyede gunde 5 defa anadilimde bir Arapin ismi ovuluyor unutma.
@lonely54 Turklerin kimi sikecekleri bellidir, dedigim gibi, devreniz bitti Turkiye senin gibilerine sirdini dondu. Bunu biliyorsun onun icin kuyrugun aciyor ve hasta vahsi kopek gibi havlamaya devam.
@focusontheargument sana cevap vermek seni ciddiye aldığım anlamına gelir ki dediğim gibi senin gözünde ne olduğum kimsenin sikinde değil ki kıskançlıktan yapıyorsun :)) arap arap arap arap hahahah :D
@lonely54 Dedilerinin hic bir manasi yok, guzel olan ki bu kanalina giren her Turk'un (Balkan gocmeni degil) bu tartismalari okuyabilmesidir. Ogrensinler senin gibilerin ne boka degdiklerini. Bitti!
@focusontheargument türkiyede kaç milyon balkan göçmeni yaşadığının farkında mısın sen? onlara türk değil diyorsun sen? gel sen türkiyeye senin sonun daha yakın olacak! En az 15 milyondur! Sen bu kadar kişiyi karşına mı alıcaksın onlar kendi soylarını bilmiyor sen bilyorsun! damarlarımda ki kanda %1 bile olsa türklük olsa bu yeter! Ki hiçte farketmez arnavut veya boşnak olanlarda kendini türk gören herkes benim gözümde öyledir. Senin gibilerin bu ülkeyi bölmeye gücü yetmez! Siktir git şimdi!
@lonely54 Turk degiller, Turklestirildiler. Bunlari Ataturk'e atfedilen Medeni Bilgilerde ve Nutukta okuyabilirsin. Seni karsima alirim esek, iddia ettigin 15 milyon arkasinda gizleme, cik ordan korkak solucan.
@lonely54 Aci ama gercek olan kendisini Turk olarak gorenin Turk olmamasi. Bende aci gercek diye bir sey yok, gercekleri kabul ettigim icin bana aci gelmiyor. Ama sende deli gibi patlayislarin nereden kaynaklandigini biliyoruz. Kimlik krizine maruzsun, kendini kaybediyorsun, emin degilsin, avrupalilasmaya gayretlisin, inandigin ideoloji bilimdisidir, ve evet, TURKLUGU ANCAK HAYALINDE GORUYORSUN. Anladin mi? Turkiye bizimle ic ice karismaya basladi, sonunuz yaklasiyor. Hazirlan!
You do know that area was long the path of the silk road and at the time, the Chinese Empire does not accept European immigrants hence allowing the European merchants to reside in modern day Xinjiang along with the Muslims.
@lonely54 You are anti-Turk, not me. U find it necessary to change Turkish history, by distorting history, not me. And I as an Arab, LOVE TURKS TO DEATH. U have no idea. I kiss the Turkish flag.
@focusontheargument an arab call me anti-turk??? I am a Turk, you are a baseborn, you call yourself arab and you also said there is no arab race! you dont know your lineage! you have problem with yourself. go to a mental hospital for your health!
@lonely54 Of coarse I call u anti-Turk. As for my ethnicity; thats irrelevant and does not posses any weight in argumentation. Why do u keep sticking to my ethnicity and ignore the arguments? I am Arab, cause my ethnicity is Arabic. But an Arab race does NOT exist. U dont understand that, cause ur mindset is racist. U think in obsolete terminology and u tell me to go to a mental hospital? The irony. The sad part is u dont even understand the position u are in :)
@lonely54 U are the one that cant accept urself, like ur flag which has aByzantine origin.U will ALWAYS deny that,while I accept it.Thats the difference. Ur so called love is fake and based upon lies.
@focusontheargument evet sonunda gerçek yüzünü gösterdin gerizekalı... ay ve yıldızın islamiyet öncesinde bile türklerde kullanıldığından bi habersin. Evet o gorandan farkın yok iddialarına kendin bile inanmazken başkasının inanmasını bekliyorsun. zavallı acınacak haldesin klavye delikanlısı!
@lonely54 Ay ve yildiz Islamdan once Turkler tarafindan kullanilmadi. Sadece hilal vardi, ama onu da Sogdlardan aldilar. Bunun delinini de . Ben bastan beri 'gercek yuzumu' gosterdim, gizledigim bir sey yok. Bizans'a gelince; o sehrin bayragini arastir da goreceksin.
@focusontheargument /watch?v=JHt6Huk_eaA kim kimden çalmış bir bak istersen bir daha da benim milletim benim bayrağım benim vatanım hakkında konuşma. beyinsiz oksijen israfı!
@lonely54 Buna 'inhiraf' denilir. Falsification of history. O bayrak senin degil, o vatan senin degil, o millet senin degil. Gercek vatan, millet ve bayrak yerinde, sen bunlari asil manalarindan saptiran hatali anlayislara inaniyorsun. Bu anlayislarinin ortaya gelisi, Turkiye cumhuriyetinin tarihinde bulmalisin. Turk Tarih Tezi denen hurafatiyle basla. Diyecek bir seyin kalmadi, senin ve senin gibilerinin devirleri bitti, defolun tarihin coplugune. Kimse de sizi ozlemeyecek.
@focusontheargument senin ananı avradını gelmişini geçmişini sikerim benim tarihime benim vatanıma benim bayrağıma bir daha laf atma senin götünü keserler amın oğlu! atıp tutan senden başka biri var mı burda??? o attıklarına birde üniversite isimlerini ekliyorsun oldu bitti lan sen kendini akıllı mı sanıyorsun??? sen defol amına soktuğum gerizekalısı.
@lonely54 O senin vatanin degil, senin bayragin degil, senin milletin degil.Onceden de dedigim gibi, senin tarih anlayisin saptirilmistir, sen Turkiyeyi, milletini, bayragini ve saire sevemezsin, cunku gercek manalarini degistirmek zorunda oldugunu hissettin.Gercegi kabul etmek sana agir geldigi icin, 19yy'da yasamisArminius Vambery, Kvergic ve onlara benzer casuslara itaat etmeyi tercih ettin. Turk ismini tasayacak degmezsin sen, Avrupa oruspusu. Kaynaklarina gelince, hepsi akademik ve gecerli.
@lonely54 senin ustunde durabilecek hic ama HIC bir gercegin YOK. Hayatin ve dunya gorusun hepsi yalan ve komik olan, senden baska hemen hemen herkes uyandi. Uyumaya devam et Avrupa oruspusu. Turkiye senin gibilerin ellerinden gidiyor.
@focusontheargument lan sen kimsin bana türklük öğretmeye kalkıyorsun amına soktuğumun orospunun doğurduğu arap! sizde aile içi sex boldur anan babanla akraba belli beyin özürlü yaratık!
@lonely54 Analar babalar Araplarin tumu bir yana, gerekcelerine bak, hic bir icerigi yok. Ustunde durabilecegin hic ama hic bir esas veya delilin yok. Tek yaptigin sey, vahi bir barbar gibi hakaret ve hamle. Sen yenildin, maglup oldun. Cevap veremeyene ne denir? Ozurlu / gedikli / kusurlu denir :) Ozurlu olan sensin, zavalli sey.
@focusontheargument neyinle beni alt etmişsin hangi cevabınla verdiğin cevaplara ki üniversite adı koyunca güçlü olduğunu mu sanıyorsun uydurduğunun gerizekalı arap!
@focusontheargument salaklığın araplıktan gelme :))) ne kaynağı verdin lan ne??? amcık salak sen neden bahsediyorsun salla salla iki üniversite adı koy o salladıklarının yanına oldu al sana kaynak :)) bu kadar mı beyinsizsin??? en kısa zamanda sağlığına kavuşursun umarım salaklara tahammül edemiyorum!
@lonely54 Arapligin salaklikla bir alakasi oldugunu, bilimsel kaynaklarindan gosterebilir misin? Tokharlara gelince, kaynaklarda ve delillerde gomulursen bile kabul etmezsin. Kaybettin :)
@focusontheargument en çok akraba evliliği siz araplarda bu bir gerçek.Hangi üniversitede öğretiyorlar bu piramitlerin tokhar olduğunu?? neye dayanarak?? nerde kim ispatlamış kaynak diyorsun hala yok?
@focusontheargument hangi kaynak amaına kodum iki fantazi kitabı onlar mı kaynak :))) hangi üniversite onaylamış onları hangi ünversitede ders kitabıymış??? gerçektan acınacak haldesin birde beni alt ettiğini düşünüyorsun ya gülme krizine sokuyorsun beni burda hahaha daha fazla komik duruma düşme derim siktir olup git!
@lonely54 Gercekten psikolojik sorunlarin var. Bu siddet nerden? Birden hayatin boyunca inandiklarinin tumu hayallere dayanildigini fark ettiginden herhalde. Git kendini gelistir, karacahil. Tum gercekler ortada, Turkiye dahil cagdas bilimin bulgularini destekliyor. Ustunde duracak hic ama HIC bir esasin yok. Daha ne kadar tekrarlamam gerek?
@focusontheargument :))) hay amına sokayım sen cidden ruh hastasısın! kimin sorunlu olduğu apaçık ortada, Türkiye dahil tüm çağdaş bilimciler seni siksin emi :)) bilim bu kadar ayağı düşüp senin yalanlarına ne zaman ortak oldu??? hangi bilim destekliyor yalanlarını! bozuk plak gibi aynı şeyleri yazıyorsun! hala ortada söylediklerini destekleyen greçekten bilimsel ve akedemik bir kaynal yok! kitap isimleri yazma yine :))
@lonely54 Kendi konusma tarzina bak :) Hem medeni bir sekilde konusamiyorsun, hem de medeniyetin bilimsel dunyasinin bulgularini kabul etmiyorsun :) Gercek ortada. Sen tamaamen dunyadan koparilmissin, Turkiyeden de koparilmissin. Turkiyeye parazit gibi yapisiyorsun ama, cunku onsuz en son duragin da ortadan kaybolur. Devren bitti kardes, bitti. Turkiye senin gibileri arkasinda birakti.
@focusontheargument lan sen iq test denen birşey duydun mu??? parazit sein gibilere deniyor başkalarını konuşan senden başka bir yaratık var mı burda??? sen hayalle gerçeği ayırt etme yetisine sahip değilsin! uydurmalarına "bilimsel" demenin ne kadar gülünç olduğunu sende biliyorsun ama göt olduğunu kabul edemiyorsun. sıkı kapat kapağı hava almasın :))
@focusontheargument hala tokhar diyo ya lan sik kafalı tokharların tarihinden daha eski bu mumyalar git araştır öğren! madem sallıyorsun biraz destekli salla! sik kafalı arap beyin özürlü yaratık!
@focusontheargument siz araplarda göbek dansı çok meşhur biliyorsun değil mi? iyi kıvırıyorsunuz:))) ama ben yemem! eşşeğe anlatsam anlardı ama sen eşşek kadar değilsin!
@lonely54 Gene Araplara vegobek danslara takildin, haline aciyorum ozurlu enayi. Gobek dansi zaten Araplardan degil,Mezopotamyadan gelmis, ama nereden bilesin, karacahil bok beyinlisin iste.Sen bari kendi kulturunuArap unsurlarindan temizlemeye devam et,80 sene calisiyorsunuz hala Arap gibi yasiyorsunuz, ona ne dersin simdi?Cok seviyorsunuz aslinda dimi, bu siddetin hepsi kara sevdadan, anliyorum seni aglama. Turkler senin gibileri yeryuzunden supurmeye basladilar,Menderesin sozleri gercek oldu.
@focusontheargument evet tamamen sevgimden o kadar sövdüm sana üstüne alınma :) ayrıca araplar gibide yaşamıyoruz:)) götünden element uydurmakta üstüne yok walla sen komedyen ol harcama kendini burda!
@lonely54 Araplar gibi yasamiyor musunuz? Korluge bak :)Slav gibi mi yasiyorsunuz? Yunan gibi mi? Yok. Sizler, musluman komsulariniza benziyorsunuz, kulturunuz,muziginiz, tore ve gelenekleriniz sanatiniz ve saire ve saire.Tabi senin gibi soyu belirsiz Avrupa gocmenleri bunu kabul etmek zorunuza gidiyor,surekli Avrupalilasmak gayretindesiniz, ama dedigim gibi Turkler sizden uzak. Komedyen sensin esek.Bildigin ciftetelli ve kemance bile bizden.Kemance Arapca bir kelime oldugundan haberin var mi?
@focusontheargument kemance araplar keman için kullanıyor bizim bildiğimiz kemençe için değil! çiftetelli arapmış:))) siz kafa sallamaktan başka bi şey biliyor muydunuz şaşırdım! yunanlara hiç tam tersi bir durum söz konusu onlar bizden çalıyor genelde, Avrupalılaşmak gibi bir derdim yok ama sen kıskançlıktan ne diyeceğini şaşırmış vaziyettesin! arapları bilirim türklerden farklılar yaşam tarzı olarak!
@lonely54 Keman Turkce mi Arapca mi? Kemance'nin -ce eki de Farsca. Bu bir. Ciftetelliye gelince, o muzigin Orta Dogu asilli oldugunu hemen anlamaliydin, ama dedigim gibi, kendi soyunu bilmeyen..
@lonely54 ciftetellide kullanilan makam ve enstrumanlarin hepsi mezopotamya asillidir. Avrupalilasmak senin derdin, kanalindaki muzik videolari bunun delili! Zavalli asilsiz esek!
@lonely54 Yasam tarzi olarak ta Arap ve Turk, iki damla su kadar birbirine benzer, zavalli esek. Tabi ki sasiriyorsun, cunku gercek zoruna gidiyor, hayatin boyunca yalanlarda yasamaktan olur.
@focusontheargument müzikle avrupalılaşma?? iyimiş yeni bişey öğrendim :)) lady gaga dinleyen japonlar amerikalı oluyor o zaman :)) gerçek olan ne lan salak arap gibi falan yaşamıyoruz çok farklıyız!
@lonely54 Muzikle evet, hic duymadin mi? Bir avrupali neden hayatta Turkuler dinlemez? Turku veya Turk sanat muzigi dinlediginde kusar. Farkini goruyor musun? Bir Japon lady gaga dinledigi zaman, batililasmak icinse kimlik krizine girer, meraktansa baska bir sey. Salak sensin, evet Araplar gibi yasiyorsunuz, yabancilar farkimizi bile goremiyorlar. Cok benziyoruz, bunu sen de biliyorsun, onun icin zaten komplexe girdiniz ve kendinizi degistirmek icin kanunlara ve devrimlere bile basladiniz.
@lonely54 Ama bugun ne goruyoruz? Kimliginiz siyasetten daha kuvvetliymis, hepsi esas hedefinden gecmis, ve sonunda zarar getirdi. Simdi ise Turkiye yoluna geri dondu ve yeni bir istikamette devam etmeye basladi. Bu surecte senin gibilerin hic ama hic bir rolu olamayacagindan emin ol, vatan haini, pis Balkan slav gocmeni.
@focusontheargument benim kuzenim bir arapla evli ve o arap kişinin ailesiyle tanıştım giyimleri yemekleri yaşantıları hiç benzemiyor o yüzden yırtma bi yerini farklıyız!
@focusontheargument pis ve slav değilim :) bir arap bana pis dedi ya hacıya gidenlerden duyuyoruz arapların ne kadar pis olduğunu evet balkan göçmeniyim üstelik lazım :)) hastasın sen!
@lonely54 Tabi ki pis ve slavsin, esek. Abdesti bilmeyen Slav gocmeni. Hasta olan sensin lan, bilimdisi hayal dunyasinda yasayan esek dolu. Hayal kurarken, Turkiye sirdini senin gibilere doner hahaha
oh my god..you are comletely wrong..Turks are never mongols..even we suffered from mongols and have to come to Anatolıa..Every nation who lıves in central asia is NOT MONGOLS
@sel1071 lol l know they like fish big eat small but the turk also mongols caming befor him 200 years(the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD (the Early Middle Ages). Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia)
what mix the turk talk about ,they only try to cover to him real mongols(the Turkic language speakers is thought to have been included in the Xiongnu of Mongolia or along the upper Yenisei in Siberiaknown from historical sources.The Han Dynasty chronicle of the Xiong-nu,included in the ShiJi, traces a legendary history of them back a thousand years before the Han to a legendary ancestor,Chunwei, a supposed descendant of the Chinese rulers of the Xia Dynasty,He lived among the Mountain Barbarians
uyghurs and the other turkics have a little european dna, because they mixed with indo europeans in the old times. check TUVA Turks , They didnt mixed with other races and they look %100 mongoloid. also YAKUT Turks are the same.
hey settle everyone i am grateful you are all alive and filled with ancient genes of incredible cultural diversity and look at what color you give to this world that has been scewed up by hollywood’s way to make us all forget the richnes of who we are .cricky.:)
Turks try hard to be European, but you are Turk. Face it, don't be ashamed of yourselves. Early Islamic records of Turk, clearly fits the features of Mongolian or Kazak, but today's Turk are are combination of everything you can imagine. So they could be Arab, European, Armenian, Jew, etc. Original Turks were nomadic thugs, arrived in Today's Turkey for the reason of plundering and theft, nothing else.
@Metalicalypse ( Tocharian ,cimmrian , scythian ) were iindo-european while the (turk ,uyghur) were Altaic language mongolian race (The Turks or Proto-Turks were a large group of nomadic tribes that dominated the northern steppes from the 6th to the 8th century. The Chinese words for the Turks are derived from the Turkish word "Türk" or "Türküt". The Turks were originally nomad tribes that migrated with their cattle from pasture to pasture along the rivers in the steppe area of modern Mongolia
@goran21715 So did I say turks were not nomads? but the mummies arent Turkic. Turks mixed with Scythians later and thats how theyve got scythian elements.
Scythians are also nomads but indo-european nomads. the fact in here that the uyghurs also share scythian elements because of assimilation. but the early scythians were iranian nomads.
@Metalicalypse no its history fact,they was nomadic, sourse tell as, the turkic tribes dont leave any civilian trace,shame to claim this mix , lsee all turk claim that without thought what mean that, lol scythian was lranian tribes that mean indo-european language,how claim that cause there are different in language, if you scythaian what obliged you to adopt turkish language. mean you non turk , yes sythian was nomadic , so why you accept to be scythian and refused to descending from mongols,
@goran21715 Thats right, Turks try to make everything Turk, its the cause of extremist Nationalist pigs who fool people for their benefit. and the fools believe their false historic facts.
Most turks doesnt know Anatolia was the homeland of one of the earliest indo-european peoples and native caucasians. Hittite,Thrakian,Mushki,Phryg,proto-Armenian,Greek,Iranic etc...
And if you ask them about history they start to blame others its the same of how their ancestors plundered people.
@Metalicalypse The most important Anatolian state contemporaneous with the Hittite Empire was the kingdom of Mitanni, situated in the east and south-east of the peninsula, which was the most powerful Hurrian state in the middle of the 2nd millennium (c. 1650-1450 BC.). The Hurrian tongue is one of the strangest languages of the ancient world. , Indo-European and the prefixing Hattic language.It is interesting that the Hurrian culture reveals Indo-Aryan influences
@goran21715 Good quote. Hurrians are the natives of the east Anatolia. like the most peoples theyve originated from the Armenian highlands. and today's Armenians & Georgians share Hurrian ethnic background. as well as some tongue.
I dont think Hurrian tongue is prefixing hattic language its more ancient than that. And sure theres connection with indo-aryan elements.
@Metalicalypse The earliest written evidence for an Indo-Aryan language is found not in India,but in Kurdistan(northern Syria) in Hittite records regarding one of their neighbors, the Hurrian-speaking Mitanni. In a treaty with the Hittites,the king of Mitanni, after swearing by a series of Hurrian gods, swears by the gods Mitrašil, Uruvanaššil, Indara, , as recorded in a horse-training manual whose author is identified as "Kikkuli the Mitannian," contains Indo-Aryan loanwords
@Metalicalypse stupid all syira was part of Mitani& north syria nowadays it kurdish dwell , yes its west kurdistan,what you think it is,who is that indo-european befor Mitanni & leave clay tablet,its not strange to you cause you fascist regim was try to deny Kurd not only in turkey but in syria &lraq too,fuck off and leasyria is called southern-west of Kurdistan .
Izdy-Kurd sect are remain of Mitanni& they live in Shingar & Shykhan and Musiul & in Qamishlo in syria&in MARDIN
@goran21715 And you want me to call to Kurds (Barbarians)? because the way you act is like going to fight without a reason. Northern Syria isnt Kurdistan dude, Its Mesopotamia and it belongs to the Semitic neighbors Assyria,Akkad, Babylon, Sumer Hurrian etc... I dont know how you claim northern Syria is Kurdistan and your deeds are nonsense. However historically theres no Kurdistan, However theres an Armenian Province called Gorshek. and Kurds originated from the Medes. not Hurrians.
you free if you see that fact do it.why is cause to fight . fact the north syria and even Alappo was stablished by Hurrian and all syria was central of mitanni and him capital on khabur river,yes its mesopotamia and befor Mitanni was part of Subartu in 3rd millennium , your talk appear you ignor history, only go look to map of akkadian empire to see border of AKKADIN AND HURRIAN ,l repeated to say north syria are kurdistan , but whole syria was
@werfirst111 Zagros highlands which is the original dwelling of the ancient Kurds who were the native inhabitants of the area long before the migration of the other races and tribes. In an article published in Kurdistan Times in its issue of winter1990,Mr.Mustafa Qaradaghi states that Gutium or Guti, the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language, which was also spoken by their kin of Subartu,Lulu, Kassite,& Mittani.Their capital city was in and around the town of Kirkuk,named Arrapha.
@werfirst111 Prof. Izady holds that the Judikan clan of Kurds are to be specifically identified as the descendants of the Gutians: "12. In the 20th century, many hypotheses have been advanced to connect the name Kurd to that of the ancient Hurrian Guti (Hallo, 1971) { 1971 "Gutium", William W. Hallo, RLA iii: 708b-720a.} or the "Kardukhoi" of the Greek historian Xenophon (Cawkwell, 1979), . The name Guti, at any rate, survives today clearly in the name of the Kurdish clan of Judikan
@werfirst111 the predecessors of modern Girdi clan of Kurds who still reside exactly where the ancient Kardukhoi/Godyene were found.The name "Kurti/Kurd"seem likely to be of Aryan origin*one of the first, in fact, in Kurdistan* instead of the far more common Hurrian clan names encountered at all periods until today& including the Khardukhoi and Guti."(Izady 1993) The name Judikan is clearly merely a variant of "Jat",further cementing the thesis of a close relationship between the Jats and Kurds
@werfirst111 generally identified by Sumerologists with "fair-complexioned." Refuting the view that namrum did not denote skin colour, Gelb notes, "For this interpretation of namrum I can find no evidence in Akkadian literature ... It would seem that Speiser's and Ungnad's reaction against the normal interpretation of namrum as 'light (-colored)' was caused by their assumption that Hurrians or Subarians belonged to the Armenoid race, which according to them could hardly be called light-colored
@goran21715 I think you DONT want to Understand me, Hurrians are Natives of the northern syria. What kind of connection have Kurds with Hurrians?
Nothing at all!
Kurds originated from the Medians. their language is different from Hurrians/Urartians.
Its only in Armenian,Georgian and other caucasian people who share Hurrian/Urartian elements linguistically and ethnic background. its accepted by the most well known scholars.
@Metalicalypse you ignore north not only north syria but whole syria and palastian was hurrian-mitanni except west of syria ead ugharite, Mides was (Their name derives from the ancient Guti (Guti-Gurti-Kurdi), conquerors of Babylon. Their home covers mountainous regions now part of Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and other countries as well. But the heartland of ancient Gutium, the domain of later autonomous Kurdish mirs, had been in what is now-- thanks to the British-- Arab Iraq
@Metalicalypse autochthonous stocks like the Guti and the Lullubi, on whom the Medes imposed their language and religion."(Edmonds 1971, p.88)The Gutians were also evidently kin of the Kassites,as Saba Dara notes,"The Babylonian army was eventually defeated by a combined force of Gutium &their kinsmen,the Kashshu (Kas-Pi)or Kassites"(Dara 2000) The Kassites have long been identified as Iranoid. Moreover,in an entire book, scholar Hennerbichler links the Kurds with the Gutians (Hennerbichler 2004
@Metalicalypse The Kurds are a native, people who have lived in the Middle East for thousands of years.Their name derives from the ancient Guti (Guti-Gurti-Kurdi), conquerors of Babylon. They were the Hurrians of Mesopotamia &the Medes of Persian history.Their home covers mountainous regions now part of Turkey,Syria, Iraq, Iran, & other countries as well.But the heartland of ancient Gutium, the domain of later autonomous Kurdish mirs,had been in what is now-thanks to the British (Honigman 2003)
@Metalicalypse Furthermore,the denomination Gutian included the Iranic Medes as well:"To their very &in the 6th century BC,on the other hand,the Babylonians loosely (& apparently pejoratively) called {al-}most every body who lived in the Zagros-Taurus system a "Guti"including the Medes!"(Izady 1993) It is thus clear:an overwhelming majority of scholars from different fields of history, anthropology, ethnography &linguistics identify the modern Kurds as descendants of the ancient Gutians of Sumer
@Metalicalypse . Some go further to claim descent from the earlier autochthonous stocks like the Guti and the Lullubi, on whom the Medes imposed their language and religion." (Edmonds 1971, p.88)
The Gutians were also evidently kin of the Kassites, as Saba Dara notes, "The Babylonian army was eventually defeated by a combined force of Gutium and their kinsmen, the Kashshu (Kas-Pi) or Kassites." (Dara 2000) The Kassites have long been identified as Iranoid.
@goran21715 . Some go further to claim descent from the earlier autochthonous stocks like the Guti and the Lullubi, on whom the Medes imposed their language and religion." (Edmonds 1971, p.88)
The Gutians were also evidently kin of the Kassites, as Saba Dara notes,the Kashshu (Kas-Pi) or Kassites." (Dara 2000) The Kassites have long been identified as Iranoid.
Moreover, in an entire book, scholar Hennerbichler links the Kurds with the Gutians (Hennerbichler 2004, p.183-184)
@Metalicalypse The Kurds are a native,people who have lived in the Middle East for thousands of years.Their name derives from the ancient Guti (Guti-Gurti-Kurdi), conquerors of Babylon. They were Hurrians of Mesopotamia and the Medes Their home covers mountainous regions now part of Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and other countries as well.But the heartland of ancient Gutium, the domain of later autonomous Kurdish mirs, had been in what is now-"Wenigstens zwei Herkunftslinien"
@Metalicalypse The geographic area belonging to the indo-european (Aryan) peoples bordered on the region of the semitic peoples in the area between red sea and Mediterranean sea ,it also came into contact with sino-tibtan in today india,and came into contact with the Altaic (Turkic,mongol) and china,
The semites invasion Aryan land when they crossed red sea & east of Mediterraneanean sea Mongols (turk) invasion Aryan land in the eastof him land
@Metalicalypse The earliest written evidence for an Indo-Aryan language is found not in India,but in Kurdistan(northern Syria) in Hittite records regarding one of their neighbors, the Hurrian-speaking Mitanni. In a treaty with the Hittites,the king of Mitanni, after swearing by a series of Hurrian gods, swears by the gods Mitrašil, Uruvanaššil, Indara, and Našatianna, who correspond to the Vedic gods Mitra,Varuṇa, Indra,& Nāsatya (Aśvin)Contemporary equestrian terminology,
@Metalicalypse Arbil (Hewlêr in Roman-alphabet Kurdish) ( with a population of approximately 1.3 million (2009),It is located 80 kilometres (50 miles) east of Mosul, and is the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan.Urban life at Arbil can be dated back to at least 6000 BC& it is one of the oldest continuously inhabited cities in the world At the heart of the city is the ancient Citadel of Arbil. The Hurrians were the first to establish Urbilum and expand their rule to the rest of northern Mesopotamia.
Hey whaT's up! I'm hungarian and I know we are descended from huns, we are related to turkic and uyghur people.I'ts normal these are the results.As a tradition our ancestors took wifes from turk countries.The mix of the genes was granted.
@Onogurpride ok mentally sick dont wont worth a dime.l say you turk barbarian (The Turks or Proto-Turks were a large group of nomadic tribes that dominated the northern steppes from the 6th to the 8th century.The Chinese words for the Turks are derived from the Turkish word "Türk"or "Türküt"The Turkish languages belong to the Altaic language family The Turks were originally nomad tribes that migrated with their cattle from pasture to pasture along the rivers in the steppe area of modern Mongolin
GOD HAS AN ARMY IN THE EAST CALLED TURKS.WHEN GOD WANTS TO HAVE VENGEANCE,GOD SENDS THEM ON THE ENEMY”(Allah Doğu’da Türkler denen bir orduya sahip.Allah intikam almak istediğinde, onları düşman üzerine gönderir.) – HZ.MUHAMMED
LEARN THE TURKISH LANGUAGE,BECAUSE THEY WILL LIVE FOREVER,NEVER TOUCH TURKS UNTIL THEY DON’T TOUCH YOU!”(Türkçe dilini öğrenin, çünkü Türkler sonsuza kadar yaşayacak, size dokunmadıkça onlara asla dokunmayın.) – HZ. MUHAMMED
against Russia @volkanozada mongols what you want to saying,Napoleon Bonaparte lived in time europe was in anarchy they was easy cross border ,now we live in 21 century,there are human right and UN , how you thought in time befor 200 years,that appear you retard kive in past. if you think what Ponaparte give to france,he sacrificed 600 thousand when he was combat campaign,he wasn't gave to frabce only sacrificed the peoples to his sick brain & he was captive two time that appear he was coward
@volkanozada stupid you very low manner (The Turks or Proto-Turks were a large group of nomadic tribes that dominated the northern steppes from the 6th to the 8th century. The Chinese words for the Turks (Tujue 突厥 are derived from the Turkish word "Türk" or "Türküt". The Turkish languages belong to the Altaic language family. The Turks were originally nomad tribes that migrated with their cattle from pasture to pasture along the rivers in the steppe area of modern Mongolia.)
@volkanozada fuck your mon idiot turk mongols (The population ancestral to the Turkic language speakers is thought to have been included in the Xiongnu of Mongolia or along the upper Yenisei in Siberia known from historical sources. The Han Dynasty chronicle of the Xiong-nu, included in the Shi Ji, traces a legendary history of them back a thousand years before the Han to a ancestor, Chunwei, a supposed descendant of the Chinese rulers of the Xia Dynasty. He lived among the "Mountain Barbarians
@volkanozada stupid turk mongols what you to deny you , you are only bond of thand looter, fuck you filthy mongols blood (Apparently the Xiong-nu were a number of tribes and geographic groups, not all of which were probably Turkic The Shi Ji mentions the Mianshu, Hunrong and Diyuan west of Long; the Yiqu, Dali, Wiezhi & Quyan north of the Qi and Liang mountains and Jing and Qi Rivers; the Forest Barbarians and Loufan north of Jin and the Eastern Barbarians and Mountain Barbarians north of Yan
@volkanozada shame to you turk mongols stupid you haven't thing to say only you cursing,l never cursing only l reply to whom is cursing stupid l knowt you reading in history you from4 books rewrited by Atadog group in 1931 all your history is lie and fake the fact (Afet had read in a French geography book that theTurks were a yellow race,generally considered second-class human beings.This provoked a reaction in Kemal,who had light hair & blue eyes'No,that can't be'he said,let's get busy about it
@volkanozada haha its fart of Atadog in 1931 lol he was so stupid , he wasn't come day the peoples inhim home can read real history on google he created fake boos of history all lies and not history butfantasy narrative a childs know it's fake cause forwad to west and he with all stupid denied his lineage to mongols,go on google all they say turk are mongols , and you may don't know why china built the great wall, they built to prevent china village from turk mongols tribes thieves and looter
@volkanozada idiot turk mongols fuck you and fuck Atadog son of whore (Apparently the Xiong-nu were a number of tribes and geographic groups, not all of which were probably Turkic (considering the later mixed ethnicity). The Shi Ji mentions the Mianshu, Hunrong and Diyuan west of Long; the Yiqu, Dali, Wiezhi and Quyan north of the Qi and Liang mountains and Jing and Qi Rivers; the Forest Barbarians and Loufan north of Jin and the Eastern Barbarians and Mountain Barbarians north of Yan.)
@volkanozada Fuck of dirty mongols turk (The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th& 11th centuries AD (the Early Middle Ages)Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China &Inner Mongolia)
@volkanozada turk are mongols(The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD (the Early Middle Ages). Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia)
@volkanozada you mother fucker son of bitch,you mongols that enough for you (The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe& the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries ADTribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns.Their point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China & Inner Mongolia)
@volkanozada fuck off the truth your ancestor(. The Turks were originally nomad tribes that migrated with their cattle from pasture to pasture along the rivers in the steppe area of modern Mongolia. They lived in filt tents (Chinese: zhanzhang 毡帳), ate meat and drank milk or fermented milk, wore furs in winter and woolen cloth in summer, usually with the left sleeve free. )
@volkanozada The Sui court protected Rangan 染干 as Qimin Qaghan 啟民可汗, had a fortification built for him and his people resettled into the territory of Chinese prefectures and helped him to regain the control over more Turkish tribes. His son Shibi Qaghan and his brothers and followers rebelled against the Sui and attacked territory of the new Tang Dynasty 唐,but in 629 the Chinese generals Li Jing 李靖&Li Ji defeated the Xueyantuo 薛延陀 tribe (Syr Tardush) and destroyed the Eastern Turk federation.
@volkanozada fuck off( Apparently the Xiong-nu were a number of tribes and geographic groups, not all of which were probably Turkic (considering the later mixed ethnicity). The Shi Ji mentions the Mianshu, Hunrong and Diyuan west of Long; the Yiqu, Dali, Wiezhi and Quyan north of the Qi and Liang mountains and Jing and Qi Rivers; the Forest Barbarians and Loufan north of Jin and the Eastern Barbarians and Mountain Barbarians north of Yan. Later the treatise mentions others.)
@volkanozada fuck off little mongols (The population ancestral to the Turkic language speakers is thought to have been included in the Xiongnu of Mongolia or along the upper Yenisei in Siberia known from historical sources. The Han Dynasty chronicle of the Xiong-nu, included in the Shi Ji, traces a legendary history of them back a thousand years before the Han to a legendary ancestor, Chunwei, a supposed descendant of the Chinese rulers of the Xia Dynasty He lived among the"Mountain Barbarians
@volkanozada fuck off dirty mongols turk (Apparently the Xiong-nu were a number of tribes and geographic groups, not all of which were probably Turkic (considering the later mixed ethnicity). The Shi Ji mentions the Mianshu, Hunrong and Diyuan west of Long; the Yiqu, Dali, Wiezhi and Quyan north of the Qi and Liang mountains and Jing and Qi Rivers; the Forest Barbarians and Loufan north of Jin and the Eastern Barbarians and Mountain Barbarians north of Yan.)
50+ years ago a "blood" brother had a 3 volume set of H.G.Well's "History of the World." I rummaged thru the book and Well's made a startling statment. He said that "Mongols" were the ancestor's of white people. About 20 years ago I ran across another set of his books & checked in it if I really did read that because I was under 13 when I 1st read it. I wonder where he got that belief? We are alike the mongols in some aspect
there was a famous Lost Roman Legion who disappeared into the deserts of China nearly 2000 years ago.....they have found their descendants still living in China today and they still throw back curly blond hair and fair skin and blue eyes. People DO have feet uno.
@vinfiend The famed Jat scholar then continues,The Chinese were right in stating that the Hiung-nu were a part of the Yue-Che (reads as Guti )people, and these Guti people had two divisions,the Ta-Yue-Che and the Siao-Yue-Che,exactly corresponding to the Massagetae & Thyssagetae of Herodotus (Greek writer of fifth century BC)meaning the "Great-Jats& the Little-Jats respectively. lmost every tribe of ancient Middle East (West Asia) & Central Asia,is represented among the present day Jats in India
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yunanların bizi sevmesi çok mu önemli?
ORUSPU COCUGU, YUNAN GOTUNE GIR BALKAN KOLESI
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@focusontheargument hahaha kabede uyuyup abdest almadan namaz kılan araplar nerden marstan mı?? hadi ben balkan göçmeniyim lan komşularımızıda görüyorum onlarda benzemiyor!
lonely54 2 days ago
@lonely54 Abdestin sadece namazla bir alakasi olduguna ancak senin gibi Avrupalilasmis muslumanlari inaniyorlar. Abdest bambaska bir sey. Neyse Balkan slavi, sozlerin yerinde tutmuyorsun maalesef.
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@focusontheargument sanki ben sadece namazla alakalı dedim ne malsın sen! ağzımdan çıktı mı öyle birşey sazan gibi atlıyorsun? Uyumak abdesti bozar siz araplar uyandıktan sonra namaza duruyorsunuz!
lonely54 2 days ago
@lonely54 Tabi ki benziyorlar, bunu kabul etmek zoruna gidiyor.
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@focusontheargument lan görmesem etmesem bu kadar ısrarın üzerine benziyolardır herhalde dicemde gördüm malesef yemezler :)) siktir git arap türkler araplaşmayacak!
lonely54 2 days ago
@lonely54 Turklerin isleri seni ilgilendirmez,ama Araplasmaya gelince,Araplar aslinda Turklesmisler.Araplarin cogu bedevi gibi degil,Osmanlilar gibi yasiyorlar.Ama onu da kusurlu beyninle anlamazsin.
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@lonely54 Seni ilgilendirmez Balkan gocmeni.
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@focusontheargument senin ananı sikerim arap! ben türküm kraldan çok kralcılık yapma sikerler ananı! soysuz köpek! soyunu inkar ettin bir kere!
lonely54 2 days ago
@lonely54 Turk degilsin, Balkan gocmenisin asilsiz kerhane cocugu, cingene pezevenginin evraksiz evladi. TURKU HAYALINDE GORUYORSUN ANCAK, vatan haini!
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@lonely54 Ben mi inkar ettim?Yani etnik kimlik ve irk arasindaki farkini anlamadin? Gercekten geri zekalisin ha :) Haline aciyorum. Ne bicim insansin sen, Turk bacagina bir tas gibisin.
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@focusontheargument bir arap beni türk olarak görse ne görmese ne :)) amına sokayım senin ben kendimi biliyorum, kendini bilmeyen çelişen sensin, senin ırkına etnik kimliğine sokayım! Asalak parazit!
lonely54 2 days ago
@lonely54 Turkler de seni Turk degil, devsirme soyu olarak gorurler. Bunu herkes bilir, yoksa senin gibilere GOCMEN demezlerdi. Asalak parazit sensin, ecdadin Bosna Hersekte kalsaydi?? Kim asiyor?
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@lonely54 Etnik kimligi ve irk arasindaki farkini bilmemeye tepki: senin irkina etnik kimligine sokayim :) Iste beyinsizlik. Turkiyede gunde 5 defa anadilimde bir Arapin ismi ovuluyor unutma.
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@lonely54 Turklerin kimi sikecekleri bellidir, dedigim gibi, devreniz bitti Turkiye senin gibilerine sirdini dondu. Bunu biliyorsun onun icin kuyrugun aciyor ve hasta vahsi kopek gibi havlamaya devam.
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@focusontheargument sana cevap vermek seni ciddiye aldığım anlamına gelir ki dediğim gibi senin gözünde ne olduğum kimsenin sikinde değil ki kıskançlıktan yapıyorsun :)) arap arap arap arap hahahah :D
lonely54 2 days ago
@lonely54 Dedilerinin hic bir manasi yok, guzel olan ki bu kanalina giren her Turk'un (Balkan gocmeni degil) bu tartismalari okuyabilmesidir. Ogrensinler senin gibilerin ne boka degdiklerini. Bitti!
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@focusontheargument türkiyede kaç milyon balkan göçmeni yaşadığının farkında mısın sen? onlara türk değil diyorsun sen? gel sen türkiyeye senin sonun daha yakın olacak! En az 15 milyondur! Sen bu kadar kişiyi karşına mı alıcaksın onlar kendi soylarını bilmiyor sen bilyorsun! damarlarımda ki kanda %1 bile olsa türklük olsa bu yeter! Ki hiçte farketmez arnavut veya boşnak olanlarda kendini türk gören herkes benim gözümde öyledir. Senin gibilerin bu ülkeyi bölmeye gücü yetmez! Siktir git şimdi!
lonely54 2 days ago
@lonely54 Turk degiller, Turklestirildiler. Bunlari Ataturk'e atfedilen Medeni Bilgilerde ve Nutukta okuyabilirsin. Seni karsima alirim esek, iddia ettigin 15 milyon arkasinda gizleme, cik ordan korkak solucan.
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@focusontheargument ben kimsenin arkasına gizlenmem! atatürkte selaniklidir salak beyinsiz!
lonely54 2 days ago
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@lonely54 Selaniklidir, Selanik Balkan degil, bu bir. Ikincisi, Ataturk aslini da hic bir zaman inkar etmedi. Salagin teki!
focusontheargument 1 day ago
@focusontheargument türklüğü hayalinde görecek tek insan var burda o da sensin. Acı ama gerçek!
lonely54 2 days ago
@lonely54 Aci ama gercek olan kendisini Turk olarak gorenin Turk olmamasi. Bende aci gercek diye bir sey yok, gercekleri kabul ettigim icin bana aci gelmiyor. Ama sende deli gibi patlayislarin nereden kaynaklandigini biliyoruz. Kimlik krizine maruzsun, kendini kaybediyorsun, emin degilsin, avrupalilasmaya gayretlisin, inandigin ideoloji bilimdisidir, ve evet, TURKLUGU ANCAK HAYALINDE GORUYORSUN. Anladin mi? Turkiye bizimle ic ice karismaya basladi, sonunuz yaklasiyor. Hazirlan!
focusontheargument 2 days ago
That's not a big break through in research
chriscanono 5 days ago
You do know that area was long the path of the silk road and at the time, the Chinese Empire does not accept European immigrants hence allowing the European merchants to reside in modern day Xinjiang along with the Muslims.
SniperfzeroX 6 days ago in playlist Uyghurs and Hungarians (Secret History of Huns)
Bir müddət uyğurlarla da döyüş meydanlarında qarşılaşmışlar. Hind-Avropa dillərinə mənsub idilər. Taciklərin babası hesab olunur.
focusontheargument 6 days ago
Toxarlar (yunan. Τοχάριοι)-Mərkəzi Asiyanın qədim xalqlarından biri. Erkən orta çağda oğuzlaraqarşı çıxmış, lakin məğlub olmuşlar.
focusontheargument 6 days ago
Nothing to do with Turks, but with Indo-European TOKHARIANS. Have a nice day!
focusontheargument 1 week ago
@focusontheargument fuck off jealous arab! you are new goran here :D
lonely54 1 week ago
@lonely54 U are the only Goran here, idiot fool. Turkey spits on ur ugly face.
focusontheargument 1 week ago
@focusontheargument fuck off anti-turk arab idiot! you arabs will never like us! jealous fucking monkey!
lonely54 6 days ago
@lonely54 You are anti-Turk, not me. U find it necessary to change Turkish history, by distorting history, not me. And I as an Arab, LOVE TURKS TO DEATH. U have no idea. I kiss the Turkish flag.
focusontheargument 6 days ago
@focusontheargument an arab call me anti-turk??? I am a Turk, you are a baseborn, you call yourself arab and you also said there is no arab race! you dont know your lineage! you have problem with yourself. go to a mental hospital for your health!
lonely54 6 days ago
@lonely54 Of coarse I call u anti-Turk. As for my ethnicity; thats irrelevant and does not posses any weight in argumentation. Why do u keep sticking to my ethnicity and ignore the arguments? I am Arab, cause my ethnicity is Arabic. But an Arab race does NOT exist. U dont understand that, cause ur mindset is racist. U think in obsolete terminology and u tell me to go to a mental hospital? The irony. The sad part is u dont even understand the position u are in :)
focusontheargument 6 days ago
@lonely54 U are the one that cant accept urself, like ur flag which has aByzantine origin.U will ALWAYS deny that,while I accept it.Thats the difference. Ur so called love is fake and based upon lies.
focusontheargument 6 days ago
@focusontheargument evet sonunda gerçek yüzünü gösterdin gerizekalı... ay ve yıldızın islamiyet öncesinde bile türklerde kullanıldığından bi habersin. Evet o gorandan farkın yok iddialarına kendin bile inanmazken başkasının inanmasını bekliyorsun. zavallı acınacak haldesin klavye delikanlısı!
lonely54 6 days ago
@lonely54 Ay ve yildiz Islamdan once Turkler tarafindan kullanilmadi. Sadece hilal vardi, ama onu da Sogdlardan aldilar. Bunun delinini de . Ben bastan beri 'gercek yuzumu' gosterdim, gizledigim bir sey yok. Bizans'a gelince; o sehrin bayragini arastir da goreceksin.
focusontheargument 6 days ago
@focusontheargument /watch?v=JHt6Huk_eaA kim kimden çalmış bir bak istersen bir daha da benim milletim benim bayrağım benim vatanım hakkında konuşma. beyinsiz oksijen israfı!
lonely54 5 days ago
@lonely54 Buna 'inhiraf' denilir. Falsification of history. O bayrak senin degil, o vatan senin degil, o millet senin degil. Gercek vatan, millet ve bayrak yerinde, sen bunlari asil manalarindan saptiran hatali anlayislara inaniyorsun. Bu anlayislarinin ortaya gelisi, Turkiye cumhuriyetinin tarihinde bulmalisin. Turk Tarih Tezi denen hurafatiyle basla. Diyecek bir seyin kalmadi, senin ve senin gibilerinin devirleri bitti, defolun tarihin coplugune. Kimse de sizi ozlemeyecek.
focusontheargument 4 days ago
@focusontheargument senin ananı avradını gelmişini geçmişini sikerim benim tarihime benim vatanıma benim bayrağıma bir daha laf atma senin götünü keserler amın oğlu! atıp tutan senden başka biri var mı burda??? o attıklarına birde üniversite isimlerini ekliyorsun oldu bitti lan sen kendini akıllı mı sanıyorsun??? sen defol amına soktuğum gerizekalısı.
lonely54 4 days ago
@lonely54 O senin vatanin degil, senin bayragin degil, senin milletin degil.Onceden de dedigim gibi, senin tarih anlayisin saptirilmistir, sen Turkiyeyi, milletini, bayragini ve saire sevemezsin, cunku gercek manalarini degistirmek zorunda oldugunu hissettin.Gercegi kabul etmek sana agir geldigi icin, 19yy'da yasamisArminius Vambery, Kvergic ve onlara benzer casuslara itaat etmeyi tercih ettin. Turk ismini tasayacak degmezsin sen, Avrupa oruspusu. Kaynaklarina gelince, hepsi akademik ve gecerli.
focusontheargument 3 days ago
@lonely54 senin ustunde durabilecek hic ama HIC bir gercegin YOK. Hayatin ve dunya gorusun hepsi yalan ve komik olan, senden baska hemen hemen herkes uyandi. Uyumaya devam et Avrupa oruspusu. Turkiye senin gibilerin ellerinden gidiyor.
focusontheargument 3 days ago
@focusontheargument lan sen kimsin bana türklük öğretmeye kalkıyorsun amına soktuğumun orospunun doğurduğu arap! sizde aile içi sex boldur anan babanla akraba belli beyin özürlü yaratık!
lonely54 3 days ago
@lonely54 Analar babalar Araplarin tumu bir yana, gerekcelerine bak, hic bir icerigi yok. Ustunde durabilecegin hic ama hic bir esas veya delilin yok. Tek yaptigin sey, vahi bir barbar gibi hakaret ve hamle. Sen yenildin, maglup oldun. Cevap veremeyene ne denir? Ozurlu / gedikli / kusurlu denir :) Ozurlu olan sensin, zavalli sey.
focusontheargument 3 days ago
@focusontheargument neyinle beni alt etmişsin hangi cevabınla verdiğin cevaplara ki üniversite adı koyunca güçlü olduğunu mu sanıyorsun uydurduğunun gerizekalı arap!
lonely54 3 days ago
@lonely54 Arapligimin bu tartismada hic bir manasi yoktur, sakat beyinli vatan haini. Kaynaklari ben verdim, gerisi sana.
focusontheargument 3 days ago
@focusontheargument salaklığın araplıktan gelme :))) ne kaynağı verdin lan ne??? amcık salak sen neden bahsediyorsun salla salla iki üniversite adı koy o salladıklarının yanına oldu al sana kaynak :)) bu kadar mı beyinsizsin??? en kısa zamanda sağlığına kavuşursun umarım salaklara tahammül edemiyorum!
lonely54 3 days ago
@lonely54 Arapligin salaklikla bir alakasi oldugunu, bilimsel kaynaklarindan gosterebilir misin? Tokharlara gelince, kaynaklarda ve delillerde gomulursen bile kabul etmezsin. Kaybettin :)
focusontheargument 3 days ago
@focusontheargument en çok akraba evliliği siz araplarda bu bir gerçek.Hangi üniversitede öğretiyorlar bu piramitlerin tokhar olduğunu?? neye dayanarak?? nerde kim ispatlamış kaynak diyorsun hala yok?
lonely54 3 days ago
@lonely54 Gene Arapliga mi yapistin? Baska yapacak isin yok mu hahahahaha omg tekrar tekrar sana kaynaklar verdim, onlarla basla karacahil esek.
focusontheargument 3 days ago
@focusontheargument hangi kaynak amaına kodum iki fantazi kitabı onlar mı kaynak :))) hangi üniversite onaylamış onları hangi ünversitede ders kitabıymış??? gerçektan acınacak haldesin birde beni alt ettiğini düşünüyorsun ya gülme krizine sokuyorsun beni burda hahaha daha fazla komik duruma düşme derim siktir olup git!
lonely54 3 days ago
@lonely54 Gercekten psikolojik sorunlarin var. Bu siddet nerden? Birden hayatin boyunca inandiklarinin tumu hayallere dayanildigini fark ettiginden herhalde. Git kendini gelistir, karacahil. Tum gercekler ortada, Turkiye dahil cagdas bilimin bulgularini destekliyor. Ustunde duracak hic ama HIC bir esasin yok. Daha ne kadar tekrarlamam gerek?
focusontheargument 3 days ago
@focusontheargument :))) hay amına sokayım sen cidden ruh hastasısın! kimin sorunlu olduğu apaçık ortada, Türkiye dahil tüm çağdaş bilimciler seni siksin emi :)) bilim bu kadar ayağı düşüp senin yalanlarına ne zaman ortak oldu??? hangi bilim destekliyor yalanlarını! bozuk plak gibi aynı şeyleri yazıyorsun! hala ortada söylediklerini destekleyen greçekten bilimsel ve akedemik bir kaynal yok! kitap isimleri yazma yine :))
lonely54 3 days ago
@lonely54 Kendi konusma tarzina bak :) Hem medeni bir sekilde konusamiyorsun, hem de medeniyetin bilimsel dunyasinin bulgularini kabul etmiyorsun :) Gercek ortada. Sen tamaamen dunyadan koparilmissin, Turkiyeden de koparilmissin. Turkiyeye parazit gibi yapisiyorsun ama, cunku onsuz en son duragin da ortadan kaybolur. Devren bitti kardes, bitti. Turkiye senin gibileri arkasinda birakti.
focusontheargument 3 days ago
@focusontheargument lan sen iq test denen birşey duydun mu??? parazit sein gibilere deniyor başkalarını konuşan senden başka bir yaratık var mı burda??? sen hayalle gerçeği ayırt etme yetisine sahip değilsin! uydurmalarına "bilimsel" demenin ne kadar gülünç olduğunu sende biliyorsun ama göt olduğunu kabul edemiyorsun. sıkı kapat kapağı hava almasın :))
lonely54 3 days ago
@lonely54 Bos sozlerden baska degil. Gercek ortada, TOKHAR bunlar. Turk degil ve Turklerle de hic bir alakalari yok.
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@focusontheargument hala tokhar diyo ya lan sik kafalı tokharların tarihinden daha eski bu mumyalar git araştır öğren! madem sallıyorsun biraz destekli salla! sik kafalı arap beyin özürlü yaratık!
lonely54 2 days ago
@lonely54 O mumyalar Tokhar doneminden ve oncesinden (ki Tokharlarin ecdatlari olan Andronovo kulturu teskil eder).
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@focusontheargument siz araplarda göbek dansı çok meşhur biliyorsun değil mi? iyi kıvırıyorsunuz:))) ama ben yemem! eşşeğe anlatsam anlardı ama sen eşşek kadar değilsin!
lonely54 2 days ago
@lonely54 Gene Araplara vegobek danslara takildin, haline aciyorum ozurlu enayi. Gobek dansi zaten Araplardan degil,Mezopotamyadan gelmis, ama nereden bilesin, karacahil bok beyinlisin iste.Sen bari kendi kulturunuArap unsurlarindan temizlemeye devam et,80 sene calisiyorsunuz hala Arap gibi yasiyorsunuz, ona ne dersin simdi?Cok seviyorsunuz aslinda dimi, bu siddetin hepsi kara sevdadan, anliyorum seni aglama. Turkler senin gibileri yeryuzunden supurmeye basladilar,Menderesin sozleri gercek oldu.
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@focusontheargument evet tamamen sevgimden o kadar sövdüm sana üstüne alınma :) ayrıca araplar gibide yaşamıyoruz:)) götünden element uydurmakta üstüne yok walla sen komedyen ol harcama kendini burda!
lonely54 2 days ago
@lonely54 Araplar gibi yasamiyor musunuz? Korluge bak :)Slav gibi mi yasiyorsunuz? Yunan gibi mi? Yok. Sizler, musluman komsulariniza benziyorsunuz, kulturunuz,muziginiz, tore ve gelenekleriniz sanatiniz ve saire ve saire.Tabi senin gibi soyu belirsiz Avrupa gocmenleri bunu kabul etmek zorunuza gidiyor,surekli Avrupalilasmak gayretindesiniz, ama dedigim gibi Turkler sizden uzak. Komedyen sensin esek.Bildigin ciftetelli ve kemance bile bizden.Kemance Arapca bir kelime oldugundan haberin var mi?
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@focusontheargument kemance araplar keman için kullanıyor bizim bildiğimiz kemençe için değil! çiftetelli arapmış:))) siz kafa sallamaktan başka bi şey biliyor muydunuz şaşırdım! yunanlara hiç tam tersi bir durum söz konusu onlar bizden çalıyor genelde, Avrupalılaşmak gibi bir derdim yok ama sen kıskançlıktan ne diyeceğini şaşırmış vaziyettesin! arapları bilirim türklerden farklılar yaşam tarzı olarak!
lonely54 2 days ago
@lonely54 Keman Turkce mi Arapca mi? Kemance'nin -ce eki de Farsca. Bu bir. Ciftetelliye gelince, o muzigin Orta Dogu asilli oldugunu hemen anlamaliydin, ama dedigim gibi, kendi soyunu bilmeyen..
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@lonely54 ciftetellide kullanilan makam ve enstrumanlarin hepsi mezopotamya asillidir. Avrupalilasmak senin derdin, kanalindaki muzik videolari bunun delili! Zavalli asilsiz esek!
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@lonely54 Yasam tarzi olarak ta Arap ve Turk, iki damla su kadar birbirine benzer, zavalli esek. Tabi ki sasiriyorsun, cunku gercek zoruna gidiyor, hayatin boyunca yalanlarda yasamaktan olur.
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@focusontheargument müzikle avrupalılaşma?? iyimiş yeni bişey öğrendim :)) lady gaga dinleyen japonlar amerikalı oluyor o zaman :)) gerçek olan ne lan salak arap gibi falan yaşamıyoruz çok farklıyız!
lonely54 2 days ago
@lonely54 Muzikle evet, hic duymadin mi? Bir avrupali neden hayatta Turkuler dinlemez? Turku veya Turk sanat muzigi dinlediginde kusar. Farkini goruyor musun? Bir Japon lady gaga dinledigi zaman, batililasmak icinse kimlik krizine girer, meraktansa baska bir sey. Salak sensin, evet Araplar gibi yasiyorsunuz, yabancilar farkimizi bile goremiyorlar. Cok benziyoruz, bunu sen de biliyorsun, onun icin zaten komplexe girdiniz ve kendinizi degistirmek icin kanunlara ve devrimlere bile basladiniz.
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@lonely54 Ama bugun ne goruyoruz? Kimliginiz siyasetten daha kuvvetliymis, hepsi esas hedefinden gecmis, ve sonunda zarar getirdi. Simdi ise Turkiye yoluna geri dondu ve yeni bir istikamette devam etmeye basladi. Bu surecte senin gibilerin hic ama hic bir rolu olamayacagindan emin ol, vatan haini, pis Balkan slav gocmeni.
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@focusontheargument benim kuzenim bir arapla evli ve o arap kişinin ailesiyle tanıştım giyimleri yemekleri yaşantıları hiç benzemiyor o yüzden yırtma bi yerini farklıyız!
lonely54 2 days ago
@lonely54 Benzemezse, Balkan Slav gocmenlerine benzemediginin manasina gelir, ama Turk bambaska bir seydir.
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@focusontheargument ayrıca o arap ailenin yaşlı kadınlarında yüzlerinde dövme gibi birşey vardı türklerde yok öyle birşey!
lonely54 2 days ago
@lonely54 Hahahahh yuzde dovme yok mu Turklerde? Var esek var, ama artik cok nadirdir. Simdiki zamanda sadece dogu ve guneydoguda oluyor.
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@focusontheargument pis ve slav değilim :) bir arap bana pis dedi ya hacıya gidenlerden duyuyoruz arapların ne kadar pis olduğunu evet balkan göçmeniyim üstelik lazım :)) hastasın sen!
lonely54 2 days ago
@lonely54 Tabi ki pis ve slavsin, esek. Abdesti bilmeyen Slav gocmeni. Hasta olan sensin lan, bilimdisi hayal dunyasinda yasayan esek dolu. Hayal kurarken, Turkiye sirdini senin gibilere doner hahaha
focusontheargument 2 days ago
@focusontheargument I do not know if you read English but i say TURKIC and not Turks. Have also a nice day!
Sob3r777 1 week ago
@Sob3r777 Turkic languages are altaic, but Japanese and Korean arent. So again, have a nice day!
focusontheargument 1 week ago
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TheAZDEHAR1 1 week ago
Turkic is Altaic family just like Japanese and Koreans so are they all Mongols! Recheck your knowledge before saying something!
Sob3r777 2 weeks ago
@Sob3r777 ALTAİC FAMİLY İS SUCK .. DONKEY
xDarkNicotine 2 weeks ago
@xDarkNicotine are you idiot?
TheAZDEHAR1 2 weeks ago
@TheAZDEHAR1 why ?? donkey?
xDarkNicotine 2 weeks ago
@xDarkNicotine ignorant,You know nothing,turks in Central Asia, shut up moron
TheAZDEHAR1 1 week ago
@Sob3r777 Japanese and Korean are language isolates, they are NOT altaic. Even the origin of Mongolian is controversial. Have a nice day!
focusontheargument 1 week ago
oh my god..you are comletely wrong..Turks are never mongols..even we suffered from mongols and have to come to Anatolıa..Every nation who lıves in central asia is NOT MONGOLS
sel1071 2 weeks ago 2
@sel1071 lol l know they like fish big eat small but the turk also mongols caming befor him 200 years(the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD (the Early Middle Ages). Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia)
goran21715 2 weeks ago
@sel1071 The first Turkic tribes were predominantly Mongoloid.
focusontheargument 1 week ago
what mix the turk talk about ,they only try to cover to him real mongols(the Turkic language speakers is thought to have been included in the Xiongnu of Mongolia or along the upper Yenisei in Siberiaknown from historical sources.The Han Dynasty chronicle of the Xiong-nu,included in the ShiJi, traces a legendary history of them back a thousand years before the Han to a legendary ancestor,Chunwei, a supposed descendant of the Chinese rulers of the Xia Dynasty,He lived among the Mountain Barbarians
goran21715 3 weeks ago
uyghurs and the other turkics have a little european dna, because they mixed with indo europeans in the old times. check TUVA Turks , They didnt mixed with other races and they look %100 mongoloid. also YAKUT Turks are the same.
tatatakat 3 weeks ago
hey settle everyone i am grateful you are all alive and filled with ancient genes of incredible cultural diversity and look at what color you give to this world that has been scewed up by hollywood’s way to make us all forget the richnes of who we are .cricky.:)
mercurywhisper 1 month ago
Turks try hard to be European, but you are Turk. Face it, don't be ashamed of yourselves. Early Islamic records of Turk, clearly fits the features of Mongolian or Kazak, but today's Turk are are combination of everything you can imagine. So they could be Arab, European, Armenian, Jew, etc. Original Turks were nomadic thugs, arrived in Today's Turkey for the reason of plundering and theft, nothing else.
sodaro15 1 month ago
Those ancient mommies arent Turkic nor Uyghur those mummies are (Tocharian,or Early Cimmerian,Scythian.)
Metalicalypse 1 month ago
@Metalicalypse ( Tocharian ,cimmrian , scythian ) were iindo-european while the (turk ,uyghur) were Altaic language mongolian race (The Turks or Proto-Turks were a large group of nomadic tribes that dominated the northern steppes from the 6th to the 8th century. The Chinese words for the Turks are derived from the Turkish word "Türk" or "Türküt". The Turks were originally nomad tribes that migrated with their cattle from pasture to pasture along the rivers in the steppe area of modern Mongolia
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 So did I say turks were not nomads? but the mummies arent Turkic. Turks mixed with Scythians later and thats how theyve got scythian elements.
Scythians are also nomads but indo-european nomads. the fact in here that the uyghurs also share scythian elements because of assimilation. but the early scythians were iranian nomads.
Metalicalypse 1 month ago
@Metalicalypse no its history fact,they was nomadic, sourse tell as, the turkic tribes dont leave any civilian trace,shame to claim this mix , lsee all turk claim that without thought what mean that, lol scythian was lranian tribes that mean indo-european language,how claim that cause there are different in language, if you scythaian what obliged you to adopt turkish language. mean you non turk , yes sythian was nomadic , so why you accept to be scythian and refused to descending from mongols,
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 Thats right, Turks try to make everything Turk, its the cause of extremist Nationalist pigs who fool people for their benefit. and the fools believe their false historic facts.
Most turks doesnt know Anatolia was the homeland of one of the earliest indo-european peoples and native caucasians. Hittite,Thrakian,Mushki,Phryg,proto-Armenian,Greek,Iranic etc...
And if you ask them about history they start to blame others its the same of how their ancestors plundered people.
Metalicalypse 1 month ago
@Metalicalypse The most important Anatolian state contemporaneous with the Hittite Empire was the kingdom of Mitanni, situated in the east and south-east of the peninsula, which was the most powerful Hurrian state in the middle of the 2nd millennium (c. 1650-1450 BC.). The Hurrian tongue is one of the strangest languages of the ancient world. , Indo-European and the prefixing Hattic language.It is interesting that the Hurrian culture reveals Indo-Aryan influences
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 Good quote. Hurrians are the natives of the east Anatolia. like the most peoples theyve originated from the Armenian highlands. and today's Armenians & Georgians share Hurrian ethnic background. as well as some tongue.
I dont think Hurrian tongue is prefixing hattic language its more ancient than that. And sure theres connection with indo-aryan elements.
Metalicalypse 1 month ago
@Metalicalypse The earliest written evidence for an Indo-Aryan language is found not in India,but in Kurdistan(northern Syria) in Hittite records regarding one of their neighbors, the Hurrian-speaking Mitanni. In a treaty with the Hittites,the king of Mitanni, after swearing by a series of Hurrian gods, swears by the gods Mitrašil, Uruvanaššil, Indara, , as recorded in a horse-training manual whose author is identified as "Kikkuli the Mitannian," contains Indo-Aryan loanwords
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 So what? there were many indo europeans before Mitanni. and its strange you call Kurdistan to (northen Syria).lol
Metalicalypse 1 month ago
@Metalicalypse stupid all syira was part of Mitani& north syria nowadays it kurdish dwell , yes its west kurdistan,what you think it is,who is that indo-european befor Mitanni & leave clay tablet,its not strange to you cause you fascist regim was try to deny Kurd not only in turkey but in syria &lraq too,fuck off and leasyria is called southern-west of Kurdistan .
Izdy-Kurd sect are remain of Mitanni& they live in Shingar & Shykhan and Musiul & in Qamishlo in syria&in MARDIN
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 And you want me to call to Kurds (Barbarians)? because the way you act is like going to fight without a reason. Northern Syria isnt Kurdistan dude, Its Mesopotamia and it belongs to the Semitic neighbors Assyria,Akkad, Babylon, Sumer Hurrian etc... I dont know how you claim northern Syria is Kurdistan and your deeds are nonsense. However historically theres no Kurdistan, However theres an Armenian Province called Gorshek. and Kurds originated from the Medes. not Hurrians.
Metalicalypse 1 month ago
@Metalicalypse , the turk are mongols
you free if you see that fact do it.why is cause to fight . fact the north syria and even Alappo was stablished by Hurrian and all syria was central of mitanni and him capital on khabur river,yes its mesopotamia and befor Mitanni was part of Subartu in 3rd millennium , your talk appear you ignor history, only go look to map of akkadian empire to see border of AKKADIN AND HURRIAN ,l repeated to say north syria are kurdistan , but whole syria was
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 Hurrians are caucasians stppid kurd.This moron kurd thinks Hurrians are their ancestors. HEHEHEHE ALLAH YAREBBİ
werfirst111 1 month ago
@werfirst111 Zagros highlands which is the original dwelling of the ancient Kurds who were the native inhabitants of the area long before the migration of the other races and tribes. In an article published in Kurdistan Times in its issue of winter1990,Mr.Mustafa Qaradaghi states that Gutium or Guti, the ancient Kurds who spoke a branch of Hurrian language, which was also spoken by their kin of Subartu,Lulu, Kassite,& Mittani.Their capital city was in and around the town of Kirkuk,named Arrapha.
goran21715 1 month ago
@werfirst111 Prof. Izady holds that the Judikan clan of Kurds are to be specifically identified as the descendants of the Gutians: "12. In the 20th century, many hypotheses have been advanced to connect the name Kurd to that of the ancient Hurrian Guti (Hallo, 1971) { 1971 "Gutium", William W. Hallo, RLA iii: 708b-720a.} or the "Kardukhoi" of the Greek historian Xenophon (Cawkwell, 1979), . The name Guti, at any rate, survives today clearly in the name of the Kurdish clan of Judikan
goran21715 1 month ago
@werfirst111 the predecessors of modern Girdi clan of Kurds who still reside exactly where the ancient Kardukhoi/Godyene were found.The name "Kurti/Kurd"seem likely to be of Aryan origin*one of the first, in fact, in Kurdistan* instead of the far more common Hurrian clan names encountered at all periods until today& including the Khardukhoi and Guti."(Izady 1993) The name Judikan is clearly merely a variant of "Jat",further cementing the thesis of a close relationship between the Jats and Kurds
goran21715 1 month ago
@werfirst111 generally identified by Sumerologists with "fair-complexioned." Refuting the view that namrum did not denote skin colour, Gelb notes, "For this interpretation of namrum I can find no evidence in Akkadian literature ... It would seem that Speiser's and Ungnad's reaction against the normal interpretation of namrum as 'light (-colored)' was caused by their assumption that Hurrians or Subarians belonged to the Armenoid race, which according to them could hardly be called light-colored
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 I think you DONT want to Understand me, Hurrians are Natives of the northern syria. What kind of connection have Kurds with Hurrians?
Nothing at all!
Kurds originated from the Medians. their language is different from Hurrians/Urartians.
Its only in Armenian,Georgian and other caucasian people who share Hurrian/Urartian elements linguistically and ethnic background. its accepted by the most well known scholars.
Metalicalypse 1 month ago
@Metalicalypse you ignore north not only north syria but whole syria and palastian was hurrian-mitanni except west of syria ead ugharite, Mides was (Their name derives from the ancient Guti (Guti-Gurti-Kurdi), conquerors of Babylon. Their home covers mountainous regions now part of Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and other countries as well. But the heartland of ancient Gutium, the domain of later autonomous Kurdish mirs, had been in what is now-- thanks to the British-- Arab Iraq
goran21715 1 month ago
@Metalicalypse autochthonous stocks like the Guti and the Lullubi, on whom the Medes imposed their language and religion."(Edmonds 1971, p.88)The Gutians were also evidently kin of the Kassites,as Saba Dara notes,"The Babylonian army was eventually defeated by a combined force of Gutium &their kinsmen,the Kashshu (Kas-Pi)or Kassites"(Dara 2000) The Kassites have long been identified as Iranoid. Moreover,in an entire book, scholar Hennerbichler links the Kurds with the Gutians (Hennerbichler 2004
goran21715 1 month ago
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@Metalicalypse The Kurds are a native, people who have lived in the Middle East for thousands of years.Their name derives from the ancient Guti (Guti-Gurti-Kurdi), conquerors of Babylon. They were the Hurrians of Mesopotamia &the Medes of Persian history.Their home covers mountainous regions now part of Turkey,Syria, Iraq, Iran, & other countries as well.But the heartland of ancient Gutium, the domain of later autonomous Kurdish mirs,had been in what is now-thanks to the British (Honigman 2003)
goran21715 1 month ago
@Metalicalypse Furthermore,the denomination Gutian included the Iranic Medes as well:"To their very &in the 6th century BC,on the other hand,the Babylonians loosely (& apparently pejoratively) called {al-}most every body who lived in the Zagros-Taurus system a "Guti"including the Medes!"(Izady 1993) It is thus clear:an overwhelming majority of scholars from different fields of history, anthropology, ethnography &linguistics identify the modern Kurds as descendants of the ancient Gutians of Sumer
goran21715 1 month ago
@Metalicalypse . Some go further to claim descent from the earlier autochthonous stocks like the Guti and the Lullubi, on whom the Medes imposed their language and religion." (Edmonds 1971, p.88)
The Gutians were also evidently kin of the Kassites, as Saba Dara notes, "The Babylonian army was eventually defeated by a combined force of Gutium and their kinsmen, the Kashshu (Kas-Pi) or Kassites." (Dara 2000) The Kassites have long been identified as Iranoid.
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 . Some go further to claim descent from the earlier autochthonous stocks like the Guti and the Lullubi, on whom the Medes imposed their language and religion." (Edmonds 1971, p.88)
The Gutians were also evidently kin of the Kassites, as Saba Dara notes,the Kashshu (Kas-Pi) or Kassites." (Dara 2000) The Kassites have long been identified as Iranoid.
Moreover, in an entire book, scholar Hennerbichler links the Kurds with the Gutians (Hennerbichler 2004, p.183-184)
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 Kurds originated from the medians and persians and thats all. now stop copying and pasting quotes.
Metalicalypse 1 month ago
@Metalicalypse The Kurds are a native,people who have lived in the Middle East for thousands of years.Their name derives from the ancient Guti (Guti-Gurti-Kurdi), conquerors of Babylon. They were Hurrians of Mesopotamia and the Medes Their home covers mountainous regions now part of Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and other countries as well.But the heartland of ancient Gutium, the domain of later autonomous Kurdish mirs, had been in what is now-"Wenigstens zwei Herkunftslinien"
goran21715 1 month ago
@Metalicalypse The geographic area belonging to the indo-european (Aryan) peoples bordered on the region of the semitic peoples in the area between red sea and Mediterranean sea ,it also came into contact with sino-tibtan in today india,and came into contact with the Altaic (Turkic,mongol) and china,
The semites invasion Aryan land when they crossed red sea & east of Mediterraneanean sea Mongols (turk) invasion Aryan land in the eastof him land
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 And you deny it belonged first to the Hurrians earlier before the semits and others?
Metalicalypse 1 month ago
@Metalicalypse The earliest written evidence for an Indo-Aryan language is found not in India,but in Kurdistan(northern Syria) in Hittite records regarding one of their neighbors, the Hurrian-speaking Mitanni. In a treaty with the Hittites,the king of Mitanni, after swearing by a series of Hurrian gods, swears by the gods Mitrašil, Uruvanaššil, Indara, and Našatianna, who correspond to the Vedic gods Mitra,Varuṇa, Indra,& Nāsatya (Aśvin)Contemporary equestrian terminology,
goran21715 1 month ago
@Metalicalypse Arbil (Hewlêr in Roman-alphabet Kurdish) ( with a population of approximately 1.3 million (2009),It is located 80 kilometres (50 miles) east of Mosul, and is the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan.Urban life at Arbil can be dated back to at least 6000 BC& it is one of the oldest continuously inhabited cities in the world At the heart of the city is the ancient Citadel of Arbil. The Hurrians were the first to establish Urbilum and expand their rule to the rest of northern Mesopotamia.
goran21715 1 month ago
Hey whaT's up! I'm hungarian and I know we are descended from huns, we are related to turkic and uyghur people.I'ts normal these are the results.As a tradition our ancestors took wifes from turk countries.The mix of the genes was granted.
jacobsczgmail 1 month ago
everyone plz IGNORE goran21715!
he is mentally disorder, dont waste time with him.his words wont worth a dime!
Onogurpride 1 month ago
@Onogurpride ok mentally sick dont wont worth a dime.l say you turk barbarian (The Turks or Proto-Turks were a large group of nomadic tribes that dominated the northern steppes from the 6th to the 8th century.The Chinese words for the Turks are derived from the Turkish word "Türk"or "Türküt"The Turkish languages belong to the Altaic language family The Turks were originally nomad tribes that migrated with their cattle from pasture to pasture along the rivers in the steppe area of modern Mongolin
goran21715 1 month ago
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LEARN THE TURKISH LANGUAGE,BECAUSE THEY WILL LIVE FOREVER,NEVER TOUCH TURKS UNTIL THEY DON’T TOUCH YOU!” (hz muhammed)
volkanozada 1 month ago
TURKISH SOLDIER IS BRAVE. THEY LOVE THEIR COUNTRY AND CAN DIE FOR IT ANYTIME” – ALBERT EINSTEIN
volkanozada 1 month ago
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volkanozada 1 month ago
I AM AFRAID TO FORGET MY COUNTRY BETWEEN THESE PEOPLE WITH BIG SOULS. COUNTRY IS SAINT,MUCH SAINT,BUT TURKS SAINT TOO,VERY SAINT” – COMTE DE BONNEVAL
volkanozada 1 month ago
TURKS,AS A NATION AND RACE,ARE THE MOST HONOURABLE PEOPLE ON EARTH”(Türkler, ulus ve ırk olarak, Dünya’daki en onurlu insanlardır.) – LAMARTINE
volkanozada 1 month ago
GOD HAS AN ARMY IN THE EAST CALLED TURKS.WHEN GOD WANTS TO HAVE VENGEANCE,GOD SENDS THEM ON THE ENEMY”(Allah Doğu’da Türkler denen bir orduya sahip.Allah intikam almak istediğinde, onları düşman üzerine gönderir.) – HZ.MUHAMMED
volkanozada 1 month ago
LEARN THE TURKISH LANGUAGE,BECAUSE THEY WILL LIVE FOREVER,NEVER TOUCH TURKS UNTIL THEY DON’T TOUCH YOU!”(Türkçe dilini öğrenin, çünkü Türkler sonsuza kadar yaşayacak, size dokunmadıkça onlara asla dokunmayın.) – HZ. MUHAMMED
volkanozada 1 month ago
IF WE ENTER HERE WITH 200.000 TANKS WE CAN ONLY GO OUT WITH 2 TANKS!”(Buraya 200.000 tank ile girersek sadece 2 tankla çıkabiliriz.) – ADOLF HITLER
volkanozada 1 month ago
TURKS CAN BE KILLED,BUT CAN’T BE DEFEATED!”(Türkler öldürülebilir fakat YENİLEMEZLER.)” – NAPOLEON BONAPARTE
volkanozada 1 month ago
against Russia @volkanozada mongols what you want to saying,Napoleon Bonaparte lived in time europe was in anarchy they was easy cross border ,now we live in 21 century,there are human right and UN , how you thought in time befor 200 years,that appear you retard kive in past. if you think what Ponaparte give to france,he sacrificed 600 thousand when he was combat campaign,he wasn't gave to frabce only sacrificed the peoples to his sick brain & he was captive two time that appear he was coward
mitannihurrian 1 month ago
goran adlı aşşağıdaki orospuçocuğu kürttür ve her forumda türkleri kötüleyip orospuçocukluğu yapmaktadır.... annesini siktiğimin goranı
volkanozada 1 month ago
@volkanozada stupid you very low manner (The Turks or Proto-Turks were a large group of nomadic tribes that dominated the northern steppes from the 6th to the 8th century. The Chinese words for the Turks (Tujue 突厥 are derived from the Turkish word "Türk" or "Türküt". The Turkish languages belong to the Altaic language family. The Turks were originally nomad tribes that migrated with their cattle from pasture to pasture along the rivers in the steppe area of modern Mongolia.)
mitannihurrian 1 month ago
@volkanozada fuck your mon idiot turk mongols (The population ancestral to the Turkic language speakers is thought to have been included in the Xiongnu of Mongolia or along the upper Yenisei in Siberia known from historical sources. The Han Dynasty chronicle of the Xiong-nu, included in the Shi Ji, traces a legendary history of them back a thousand years before the Han to a ancestor, Chunwei, a supposed descendant of the Chinese rulers of the Xia Dynasty. He lived among the "Mountain Barbarians
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 son of a bitch don't envy ... fuckin kurds
volkanozada 1 month ago
@volkanozada stupid turk mongols what you to deny you , you are only bond of thand looter, fuck you filthy mongols blood (Apparently the Xiong-nu were a number of tribes and geographic groups, not all of which were probably Turkic The Shi Ji mentions the Mianshu, Hunrong and Diyuan west of Long; the Yiqu, Dali, Wiezhi & Quyan north of the Qi and Liang mountains and Jing and Qi Rivers; the Forest Barbarians and Loufan north of Jin and the Eastern Barbarians and Mountain Barbarians north of Yan
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 dick goran dick.... shame on you
volkanozada 1 month ago
@volkanozada shame to you turk mongols stupid you haven't thing to say only you cursing,l never cursing only l reply to whom is cursing stupid l knowt you reading in history you from4 books rewrited by Atadog group in 1931 all your history is lie and fake the fact (Afet had read in a French geography book that theTurks were a yellow race,generally considered second-class human beings.This provoked a reaction in Kemal,who had light hair & blue eyes'No,that can't be'he said,let's get busy about it
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 Airplane out of the fart, say hi to that sweetheart ( do you understand me )
volkanozada 1 month ago
@volkanozada haha its fart of Atadog in 1931 lol he was so stupid , he wasn't come day the peoples inhim home can read real history on google he created fake boos of history all lies and not history butfantasy narrative a childs know it's fake cause forwad to west and he with all stupid denied his lineage to mongols,go on google all they say turk are mongols , and you may don't know why china built the great wall, they built to prevent china village from turk mongols tribes thieves and looter
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 so idiot . fucking kurd , fucking ırak . mother fucker ass all
volkanozada 1 month ago
@volkanozada idiot turk mongols fuck you and fuck Atadog son of whore (Apparently the Xiong-nu were a number of tribes and geographic groups, not all of which were probably Turkic (considering the later mixed ethnicity). The Shi Ji mentions the Mianshu, Hunrong and Diyuan west of Long; the Yiqu, Dali, Wiezhi and Quyan north of the Qi and Liang mountains and Jing and Qi Rivers; the Forest Barbarians and Loufan north of Jin and the Eastern Barbarians and Mountain Barbarians north of Yan.)
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 Fuck of dirty kurd.
volkanozada 1 month ago
@volkanozada Fuck of dirty mongols turk (The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th& 11th centuries AD (the Early Middle Ages)Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China &Inner Mongolia)
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 Look my ram, I?m an Anatolian child,If I put, you sit. NE MUTLU TÜRKÜM DİYENE..... fuck off kurd
volkanozada 1 month ago
NE MUTLUKİ TÜRKÜM. ALLAHIMA ŞÜKÜRLER OLSUN ! NE MUTLU TÜRKÜM DİYEBİLENE
volkanozada 1 month ago
@volkanozada turk are mongols(The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe and the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries AD (the Early Middle Ages). Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns. Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia)
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 siktirgit amınakodumun kürdü ananı sikim senin orospuçocuğu... arvadını siktiğimin pkklısı
volkanozada 1 month ago
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@volkanozada you mother fucker son of bitch,you mongols that enough for you (The Turkic migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turkic peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe& the Middle East between the 6th and 11th centuries ADTribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns.Their point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China & Inner Mongolia)
mitannihurrian 1 month ago
@volkanozada fuck off the truth your ancestor(. The Turks were originally nomad tribes that migrated with their cattle from pasture to pasture along the rivers in the steppe area of modern Mongolia. They lived in filt tents (Chinese: zhanzhang 毡帳), ate meat and drank milk or fermented milk, wore furs in winter and woolen cloth in summer, usually with the left sleeve free. )
mitannihurrian 1 month ago
@volkanozada The Sui court protected Rangan 染干 as Qimin Qaghan 啟民可汗, had a fortification built for him and his people resettled into the territory of Chinese prefectures and helped him to regain the control over more Turkish tribes. His son Shibi Qaghan and his brothers and followers rebelled against the Sui and attacked territory of the new Tang Dynasty 唐,but in 629 the Chinese generals Li Jing 李靖&Li Ji defeated the Xueyantuo 薛延陀 tribe (Syr Tardush) and destroyed the Eastern Turk federation.
mitannihurrian 1 month ago
@volkanozada fuck off( Apparently the Xiong-nu were a number of tribes and geographic groups, not all of which were probably Turkic (considering the later mixed ethnicity). The Shi Ji mentions the Mianshu, Hunrong and Diyuan west of Long; the Yiqu, Dali, Wiezhi and Quyan north of the Qi and Liang mountains and Jing and Qi Rivers; the Forest Barbarians and Loufan north of Jin and the Eastern Barbarians and Mountain Barbarians north of Yan. Later the treatise mentions others.)
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 FUCK OF KURD.
volkanozada 1 month ago
@volkanozada fuck off little mongols (The population ancestral to the Turkic language speakers is thought to have been included in the Xiongnu of Mongolia or along the upper Yenisei in Siberia known from historical sources. The Han Dynasty chronicle of the Xiong-nu, included in the Shi Ji, traces a legendary history of them back a thousand years before the Han to a legendary ancestor, Chunwei, a supposed descendant of the Chinese rulers of the Xia Dynasty He lived among the"Mountain Barbarians
goran21715 1 month ago
@volkanozada fuck off dirty mongols turk (Apparently the Xiong-nu were a number of tribes and geographic groups, not all of which were probably Turkic (considering the later mixed ethnicity). The Shi Ji mentions the Mianshu, Hunrong and Diyuan west of Long; the Yiqu, Dali, Wiezhi and Quyan north of the Qi and Liang mountains and Jing and Qi Rivers; the Forest Barbarians and Loufan north of Jin and the Eastern Barbarians and Mountain Barbarians north of Yan.)
goran21715 1 month ago
BEN TÜRKÜM OĞUZ BOYUNDAN
volkanozada 1 month ago
50+ years ago a "blood" brother had a 3 volume set of H.G.Well's "History of the World." I rummaged thru the book and Well's made a startling statment. He said that "Mongols" were the ancestor's of white people. About 20 years ago I ran across another set of his books & checked in it if I really did read that because I was under 13 when I 1st read it. I wonder where he got that belief? We are alike the mongols in some aspect
purplepimpernel 1 month ago
there was a famous Lost Roman Legion who disappeared into the deserts of China nearly 2000 years ago.....they have found their descendants still living in China today and they still throw back curly blond hair and fair skin and blue eyes. People DO have feet uno.
vinfiend 1 month ago
@vinfiend The famed Jat scholar then continues,The Chinese were right in stating that the Hiung-nu were a part of the Yue-Che (reads as Guti )people, and these Guti people had two divisions,the Ta-Yue-Che and the Siao-Yue-Che,exactly corresponding to the Massagetae & Thyssagetae of Herodotus (Greek writer of fifth century BC)meaning the "Great-Jats& the Little-Jats respectively. lmost every tribe of ancient Middle East (West Asia) & Central Asia,is represented among the present day Jats in India
goran21715 1 month ago
@goran21715 I'm from Australia and we don't have such a me