Wyatt Roy on the Today Show 18 November 2010

[Scyeth]

what's that ringing sound? is he wearing a bracelet or something?

[ihaveairlockers]

SPIN !

He's good at spin, but I see through it !

[mcgeeslover]

I certainly breathed a big sigh of relief... HAHA. ;)

[moeroxyajox]

ok so i dont think that fighting on youtube will solve it. yeah he is young and hasnt got a degree but neither does the other members of parliment. politics is one of the only careers where you dont need a degree. at least he is out there doing things. standing for what he beleives in. yeah he doesnt have experiance but when i met him he gave me a quote" i can not lead by experiance, only by good intentions."

[anaemia]

The best possible people indeed... a foetus without a uni degree.

[mcgeeslover]

@anaemia You don't need a degree to be intelligent, believe it or not. A degree is just a piece of paper.

[anaemia]

@mcgeeslover Yeah but see, I'd rather have a well-educated, qualified MP over one who actually deferred their education to take on a position that they need their education for. That's power-hungry, irresponsible megalomania and proves that he cares more about his profile than he does of the constituents of his electorate. If he really cared about them, he wouldn't have run until he was more suitable for the position.

[AussiePolitics]

@anaemia you are obviously a nasty bitter person who has nothing better to do than anonymously insult people online. grow up, calling someone a foetus just because they lack a uni degree is extremely immature. some of the most ignorant people i have ever met have been "educated". being educated and being intelligent are not necessarily the same thing. he obviously thought he could represent the locals better than the other candidates and he won.

[anaemia]

@AussiePolitics The foetus comment was a reference to the fact that he's barely an adult. Life experience is an important part of being able to represent the people. I don't doubt that he's a bright kid, but he's still a kid. And you're a bit of a hypocrite, by saying that I have "nothing better to do than anonymously insult people online" when you prefix that remark with "you're obviously a nasty, bitter person".

[mcgeeslover]

@anaemia You can become a direct entry officer in the ADF at the age of 18, and the only prerequisite is grade 12 English. These men make life and death decisions everyday, as they carry a commission from the Queen. They can be put into command of whole platoons, flights or watches and make key battle decisions at a split second, yet you're making fun of this young man for serving his constituents at such a young age.

[anaemia]

@mcgeeslover "The last one"... I'm not sure who you're referring to there. And sure, Roy is technically old enough to be an MP, but I don't believe it's wise to elect someone so young with almost nil life experience. But hey, as the saying goes, we get the politicians we deserve... and I guess Longman deserves a post adolescent Young Liberal with delusions of grandeur.

[mcgeeslover]

@anaemia The last one was John Sullivan, the guy who made fun of the disabled kid.

I also don't believe it's wise to elect someone with a reputation for causing bungles in the state government, but hey, that's just my opinion. At least you aren't going off at me... Unlike some other youtube users... And Wyatt's doing a good job so far.

[anaemia]

@mcgeeslover Making fun of underprivileged kids is soooo 2009. Anyway, Wyatt Roy hasn't been in Parliament for 6 months yet. Let's see how well he's doing in 2 years, shall we? Considering all of his life experience, his credentials, his poor middle class public school educated background, and the wonderful company he keeps... I'm sure he'll do a FANTASTIC job.

[mcgeeslover]

@anaemia FYI, Matthew Flinders Anglican College is a private school, he has done more in his life than a lot of people, graduated near the top of his class in 2007, has studied in universities, has been endorsed by many people including Tony Abbot, Peter Costello and other key members. Besides, socioeconomic backgrounds should not matter. So do not try sarcasm unless you know what you're talking about. He'll certainly do a better job than Julia Gillard is doing... AS PM.

[mcgeeslover]

@anaemia Besides, the disabled (not underprivileged) kid was made fun of in 2010...

[anaemia]

@mcgeeslover Jokes don't work well with you, do they? Making fun of kids reference = The Chaser. My comment of "experience, his credentials, his poor middle class public school educated background, and the wonderful company he keeps" is referring to what he DOESN'T have. He's an inexperienced, under-qualified, private school educated, upper middle-class Young Liberal... a combination so ridiculous that it makes Wilson Tuckey sound like a responsible candidate.

[mcgeeslover]

@anaemia Well, when you are autistic, sarcasm isn't easily understood. Besides, someone's background doesn't necessarily make them who they are. Look at me for instance, I'm a girl whose family has been divorced for 12 years and who lives with her mother on a permanent basis. With criterion like that, you'd expect me to be extremely girly, dependent and hate camping because my own mother doesn't enjoy it. However, am the opposite of the expected criterion for a girl with that sort of background.

[anaemia]

@mcgeeslover I'm not going to make assumptions about your personality based on that... but I definitely wouldn't vote for you to represent my electorate... and neither would I vote for Wyatt Roy.

[mcgeeslover]

@anaemia Well, I wouldn't vote for John Sullivan, but I can see we all have our differences. What I can't tolerate, however, is people being excessively nasty towards Wyatt because he's young. I don't get why some people are so nasty. I'm not talking about you, I'm currently in another battle with another user. But can I ask you a question?

Why are you called anaemia?

[anaemia]

@mcgeeslover Why worry about Wyatt? If he's sensitive to criticism, he got into the wrong profession. And I chose anaemia because syphilis had already been taken :).

[mcgeeslover]

@anaemia He's not really that sensitive. I just get concerned though... But I'm like that whenever any of my mates/people I care about are being picked on. Haha. You have no idea how many verbal fights I involved myself in to defend my best friend. But that's neither here nor there.

Lol at the reason for your name. :)

Mine comes from a slight obsession with NCIS.

[AussiePolitics]

@anaemia there is a difference between going online and anonymously insulting people pettily and someone calling you out on it. are you one of those idiots who believes that democracy should only be practices by old people? because that's exactly what you're saying if you dont think young people should be elected. most old people are so conservative that they do not even represent most people under 30 so how are we supposed to have our voice heard?

[anaemia]

@AussiePolitics I think that if you're too young to order a drink in a pub in America, you're too young to be a federal MP here. I'd be very apprehensive of being represented by a child in parliament. And it also says something about the priorities of the LPA if a 20 year old can win preselection. They obviously care more about a token, media-grabbing headline and a shtick to win a seat than they do about ensuring the proper representation of Longman in Canberra.

[AussiePolitics]

@anaemia it says something about the LNP? actually id say it says more about the quality of the labor candidate. you obviously have the point of view that young people should not be allowed any say in parliament which is disgusting. we can keep voting in old conservative fools on both sides.

[anaemia]

@AussiePolitics Excuse me? I'm a young person working as a party staffer. And while I believe that young people deserve to have their voices heard, I don't believe that a 20 year old is qualified to be an MP (just like I wouldn't like the thought of a 20 year old doctor, engineer or police officer). By the way... if you have a problem with conservatives being elected into parliament, not that you're defending a LIBERAL MP here. Idiot.

[AussiePolitics]

@anaemia you obviously have no idea about liberal ideology is you can make such a stupid comment. do not call others idiots when it is YOU who is ignorant. to give you a basic understanding of political ideologies the liberal party is made up of TRUE liberals and conservatives. labor also has a fair few of their own social conservatives. so you utter fool, next time learn what you're talking about.

[AussiePolitics]

@anaemia oh and it figures you're working in politics, because only someone who is like that would be so bitchy about this issue. by the way, we dont elect politicians based on their expertise, unlike doctors who are given jobs specifically because of this. in fact most politicians vote on issues they have utterly no understanding of at all, especially concerning science.

[anaemia]

@AussiePolitics Kind of hypocritical for you to call me bitchy, when you're being massively hostile to me for having a different opinion to you. So, the voice of young people being heard only applies if they agree with you, right?

[AussiePolitics]

@anaemia actually the voice of young people counts when they don't go online and write petty bitchy things about public figures while hiding behind the anonymity of the internet. you have no understanding of the way ideologies work in the liberal party and yet you call me an idiot because of your ignorance. the people of longman evidently thought Wyatt was a better alternative than "experienced" politician he replaced but apparently you think democracy should be suspended for young people

[anaemia]

@AussiePolitics I think that saying a 20 year old is too young to be a federal member hardly counts as "bitchy". I think it's fair point, and I'm sure there's plenty of people who'd agree with me. And I DO understand political ideology (I've got the university degree to prove it - unlike Wyatt Roy). It's also a fair point to say that the LPA is dominated by conservatives, and not small L liberals these days. Maybe you're the one who doesn't understand.

[AussiePolitics]

@anaemia actually i would call it bitchy to say "a foetus without a uni degree". as though a uni degree somehow makes a person smart. you think studying politics at university teaches you a damn thing? lol how about you study a REAL degree like science or law - ANYTHING at actually teaches you something useful.

actually the younger wings of the party are dominated by liberals - which is why I made the point of how the younger people want someone who actually represents THEM

[anaemia]

@AussiePolitics Well, maybe after a bit of education and real life experience, they can then utilize their knowledge and perspective to be qualified members of parliament. By the way, how is my degree not real? I've used it to get a "real" job that pays well. It may be fair to point out that Wyatt Roy was studying the exact same degree as I did at the exact same university. You're just itching for a fight, no matter what I say. Troll.

[AussiePolitics]

@anaemia congratulations, your degree has enabled you to get a job where you will never have any new knowledge of your own, you will just be a part of the party machinery, pissing in pockets and hoping some day they will give you a safe seat. and i am well aware of what wyatt was studying, however from what I have seen of his eloquent displays he certainly is a far higher calibre than most arts students.

[AussiePolitics]

@anaemia i find it amusing how you accuse me of being a troll when it was YOU who went and sought out a video he put up and wrote a juvenile and petty comment deriding him and the work he has done. you're exactly like most politics students who finish with useless degrees and are incredibly jealous of anyone who gets preselected as that is what they want to receive more than anything and is just about the best you will ever do based on your 'study'

[anaemia]

@AussiePolitics You're one of his staffers/mates, aren't you?

By the way, not everyone who studies politics wants to be a public figure. Some of us just want to work in the public service, unions, campaign staffing, journalism, or policy development. Don't play the jealousy card, it makes you seem pathetic: "if you disagree with me... well... then... um... you're just jealous". Childish.

[AussiePolitics]

@anaemia you're right not everyone who studies politics wants to become a figure, however a lot do and the rest just want an easy arts degree so they don't have to do too much work for three years. they're a joke especially when you compare them to real degrees like science and engineering.

and yes, I played the jealousy card because for you to actively seek out wyatt's channel and then write nasty and bitchy comments certainly makes you look jealous.

[anaemia]

@AussiePolitics Oh yes, sorry. I forgot that rule that you should ONLY post positive comments on videos. God forbid if a public figure EVER has anything bad said about them. I mean, people run for public office because they want the anonymity.

By the way, you didn't answer? Are you a staffer or a mate?

[AussiePolitics]

@anaemia i never said that was a rule, just that it was telling how you actively went to his channel to write nasty comments about him and to make stupid comments about his age which if your views were ever legislated would undermine our democracy.

i am an acquittance of wyatt, i am not a staffer since i am studying full time a degree in science

[anaemia]

@AussiePolitics Well, the video was linked to me by a colleague - I didn't wake up one morning and say "oh boy, I want to tear Roy a new one". And I figured you knew him... I doubt you'd be arguing with me with this level of vitriol if I were paying out Christopher Pyne or Julie Bishop.

By the way, good on you for studying a real degree. We wouldn't be anywhere if it weren't for science. But politics and public policy... fuck, who needs it, right? I'm sure anarchy would work just as well.

[AussiePolitics]

@anaemia i doubt you would have left a comment dripping with such a petty insult if it was pyne or some other politician, which is why it seemed to indicate you were pretty damn incensed by his selection.

LOL you think the students who study politics at university are the only ones who understand how democracy works? economics and science students know a dickload more about policy that you ever will in your life.

[AussiePolitics]

@anaemia i find that hilarious how you suppose if we didnt have the arts students the nation would descend into sheer anarchy. that really is laughable. we need less arts students involved in politics and more scientists and economists. there are already a few economists around but you can never have too many but there are next to no scientists in politics. so we have a bunch of idiots with no scientific background writing legislation regulating an industry they know nothing of

[anaemia]

@AussiePolitics Don't scientists have better things to do than run for public office? Shouldn't they be doing things like working on alternative energy sources and working on curing terminal illnesses? You don't think that having a thorough understanding of public policy and foreign relations is more important? Just because you're a science student, doesn't mean you know everything. I don't much care for a scientist's views on Indigenous land-ownership, interest rates or IR laws.

[AussiePolitics]

@anaemia interest rates and IR laws are held in the domain of economics and any first year econ student would know far more than someone with an arts degree about these topics. a first year course in econometrics would enable you to understand the data in ways an arts student would not have a clue.

obviously scientists have a lot of things going on but they know a hell of a lot better than any arts student which fields of research funds are better off being directed or what regulations we need

[AussiePolitics]

@anaemia you want an example of why we need scientists in office? recently in the US there have been calls to cut the budget by removing funding for 'useless' scientific research. one of the congressmen said 'is it necessary to be funding the study of fruit fly mating?'

how about because of the fact that they are vital in when researching genetic diseases and it was this research that taught us so much of what we know about genetics that we know today

[anaemia]

@AussiePolitics The majority of those in federal parliament have politics/law degrees. Should they all be replaced by scientists, since those with science degrees obviously know better?

[AussiePolitics]

@anaemia i never said EVERYONE needs to have a science degree just as i said not everyone needs an economics degree. however when you have an excessive number of politics/law politicians its kind of sad how they try to legislate in so many areas they do not understand. politics or law students know next to nothing about the economy or science. bronwyn bishop recently wrote a fucking stupid article on the punch talking about how evolution was 'just' a theory displaying no understanding of it

[mcgeeslover]

@anaemia Fine, tell me, the last one had an education, didn't he? He helped bungle the State Government before he went into Federal Politics, didn't he? He was complacent and apathetic, wasn't he? At least Wyatt puts in a effort for his constituents.