type in on youtube team swift! the first video is this aerobatic team! i admit this is a low point (pardon the pun) but they are actually very very good pilots. Shame it happened though.
@MrMickroach well yes and no, yes this was a stupid mistake and he shouldn't have flown in the first place but... he is still a good pilot, hence why he was flying displays in the first place, he's only human!
@willbertdsgc The man is a clown, he made every basic mistake from when he strapped in! Good pilots do not ,make mistakes and if you want to be a pilot, I suggest you factor that bfore you kill someone, or yourself! The keywords are Airmanship and professionalism! This clown is just that, dont forget it!
How did he think he could get away with doing a sharp 180 so close to the ground. Im guessing he was running out of space and had no choice but a seriously BAD piece of flying assuming the plane was sound.
check this video carefully ... HIS RUDDER DID NOT MOVE .. therefore so much skidding and skidding in turn which otherwise would be fully coordinated and would brig him safely to the ground....
He must noticed rudder malfunction on the tow .. therefore released so quickly ...
saw that coming as he even attemted the last turn.. Good that the pilot is fine - i guess hes sitting now whatching the video ans asking himself "how could i even try that?" ^^
However, as long as hes not carryng passengers, its only his life at stack if hes doing such manovers... I hope with passenger he would fly a bit safer :)
? look carrefuly! There was something wrong with this glider. A pilot atemped to land short after takieoff and with the wind direction. But he made big mistake using air-brakes too early and then turning left rapidly. Left wing almost stopped relative to the air and lost it's ability to keep the plane in the air safely.
i was there that day and it was terrible....... the weather was awful with low lying clouds which ment the aircraft that did fly had to fly very low.... it was a terrible thing that happened and i wish the poilet all the best xxx
I hope that he is ok! Looks like he got caught in sinking air immidiatley after release. In hinds sight, should not have been flying, should have landed downwind on the grass, but that is easy for anyone to say watching from an armchair. The low altitude turn at a low airspeed resulting in a stall/spin and impact with the ground is the killer of both the best and worst pilots.
It was is a great and fantastic air show . The viewers saw the flight and crashing . So this is the flying reality . I wonder to why flying one idiot and unfit pilot ?? This is man was destroy the show ...
Written from the position of an crash investigator: Pilot Error.
Bottom of the oceans, lakes and many shallow pits on the ground are full of "good, briliant, competent" etc. pilots who made the same mistake: If it ain't flying wether, you don't fly!
Deep water divers, if something does not feel "right" the day of the dive, you do not dive! Same thing should be true and enforced for pilots.
Wow! Obviously no plan, a bad decision topped by poor judgement. I bet he replayed that fuck up while in a hospital bed a million times, We all can learn a thing or two from this. Hope he recovers and gets back in the seat. His ego may have been clouding his judgemant and skills given the conditions. No arguement and no need to reply.
Looks to me like the pressure to fly took it's toll. I don't know this guy and I bow to those that do, but this is 100% pilot error. There but for the grace of god and all that. I hope he has recovered well.
I don`t care how good a pilot he is or how the weather was, he just made a huge mistake. Every judgment from early release to the turns was a mistake.
I don't know Mike, but if that's the same Swift the British team always used, then I've flown it once and I also had to make an early landing when the tow planes engine or prop failed.
at 0.23 in video pilot error STALL ! (almost no foreward speed anymore wings banked so much that no lift could be supplied anymore UNDER the wing.
==>> ask any genuine flightinstructor and he/she will confirm what i state.
to fly an aircraft the pilot have to respect a certain amount of natural laws involved in the definition of a FLIGHT by an airplane.the videofootage is the proof.
appears to have been unstable the entire tow. Looks like he "aborted" a full tow... which should have ascended above a thousand feet. something was wrong maybe the ceiling was very low that day...
From from a full slip with the spoilers out this dude tries to make a 180 degree turn because he finds out he's badly overshot the runway. Time to get an award for bad judgment if not have his certificates pulled. (I don't think there was any control problem the way he was able to initiate those turns. If that turns out to be the actual cause then I resend my comments, if not this guy is a dork, every pilot knows the correlation between stall speed combined with steep banks.....
I suspect he released so soon because he was aware he had a control problem. he is clearly having difficulty controlling it as soon as he turned back to the runway. Probably not enough ground ahead to land ahead, hence the attempt to get back to the take off end and turn into wind.
@tasticross O DJEE IT WAS THE FAULT OF THE GLIDER!look dumbo if U don't know anything about flying just shut the fuck up!if a pilot U turns an airplane this way he takes out all LIFT...if U do this with a glider than it's kind a suicide.airplanes,gliders included,need LIFT UNDER THEIR WINGS.
this is a genuine case of PILOT ERROR and i'll stick to my knowledge.
@TANTAULUS gliders are highly sensitive to wind gusts it's not like a normal plane. There might be an element of "pilot error" for accepting to fly in such a weather - but then we don't even know exactly what happened, like may be the cable broke... and wind can be highly random, so give the guy a break. Thankfully gliders are slow machines and pilots can survive crashes like this. A normal airplane would have turned into a ball of mangled metal and fire.
@TANTAULUS It's quite funny that you talk of having all of this experience with flying and yet you consider that planes/gliders need lift UNDER their wings. This is an incorrect statement. the majority of lift is created by the airflow over the top of the aerofoil. when the AOA is too high for the given airspeed the laminair airflow brakes away from the top surface of the wing and it stalls. in this case the inside wing was going slower = less lift, it stalled first and the glider spun in.
@lhitchins The aerodynamics is very clear, there was a clown in the cockpit. And for your reference, if you wish to quote aerodynamics, perhaps you should first understand the subject..
@MrBigfatbloke = why dont you put down your MS FSX and go out and acutally learn to fly. I dont confess to being an expert in aerodynamics but i DO KNOW that a glider produces lift over the top of the wind to the sum of around 70% of the total lift. Also having done exstensive stalling and spinning training in sailplanes I think that puts me in a position to say it as I see it. Too Low, Slow and an over ruddered turn, Classic spin in acciedent inside wing higher AOA and stalled 1st
@lhitchins You seem quite keen to stamp you superior knowledge on anyone who dares challenge your fragile understanding, especially on aerodynamics...I would say that your statement to me indicates that what I suggested was correct.I must admit, I am clueless as to what a MS FSX is, but it sounds awfully painful. Try starting with Cl1/2rhoVsquaredS
@MrBigfatbloke I know how loading and AOA values affect stall speeds, a glider with a 1g stall of 35 knots will stall at 70 knots in a turn with 4g and I understand the calculations envolved. I am not trying to stamp on anyone, merely that I dont like people who will call someone a friend even a clown or twat because they made a mistake and yes Mike made a mistake dont forget he is 3 times unlimited champion, I dont see people slamming steve fossett for flying to close to a ridge during rotor.
@lhitchins Thats a good start then, I take it you are a glider pilot? The clown flying this glider is a bad airman, he is the epitome of someone who mistakes ambition for ability and he is a clown. A basic A&B from the ATC would not have made the most fundamental and basic mistakes he made and I put it down to the fools puerile ego. I have seen egos kill people many times in my career, Fosset was yet another who cocked a snook at airmanship, as did Hoof and the fool in the hurricane.
@MrBigfatbloke, yes I am a sailplane pilot. In this case it was not a matter of ego, half the airshow that day had been cancelled due to high wind and low CB and mike did not want to let the crowd down, that combined with a weak link failure and too high ground speed resulted in what you saw, he had run out of runway when he decided to turn instead of hitting parked aircraft or people.and in case you didnt know the shuttle has a better L/D ratio than a swift. they fly like a brick :)
The weather was poor with low cloud base and severegusting conditions.
There was never any chance that he would make enough height to display.
I dont think a weak link broke, he cast himself adrift...weak link is the oldest excuse in the book but if it did break, it proves he shouldnt have flown in gusts of that magnitude.
He should have S turned or executed a 360 or landed ahead but he turned downwind and then.....deployed the airbrakes all shocking!!
@MrBigfatbloke The whole display was on the back of the tug, he never intended to climb to 4k and display. what ever happened nothing would of worked apart from a straight in to wind steep approach. no S turn or 360 in the height and space at shoreham he would have stalled in anyway in a swift..
@lhitchins So he turned downwind and deployed the airbrakes? Aircraft only stall if you allow the flow to unstick, ie., fly too slow. I think your loyalty to the man is comendable but misplaced, he showed a lack of airmanship that a professional airman would never,ever have done. I remember years ago, the CFI of Bicster Gliding Centre killed himself by allowing his ego to take over and he overstressed the aircraft to an extent, the wingtips fell off.. Ego versus display=accident
@MrBigfatbloke I would tend to agree with you, Mike however is not macho or egotistical he simply did not want to disapoint the crowd that day. What followed was a simple error in judgement, we have all made those and got away with it, Mike didnt, he elected to try and land down wind ran out of space was then too low and slow to come 180 degrees the rest was inevitable . Poor judgement? - yes. clown, fool, macho or egotistical? most definately not.
@lhitchins Sir, with any type of aircraft that crashes due to pilot, simple error of judgement is not an excuse, it is condemnation of the person and their ability to act as a commander. All errors are mitigated by being professional in the mindset before you committ to aviate. I would enjoy being a witness to you telling John Romain that we all make erros and get away with it. Your chum failed to hack, screwed up and almost killed himself..that is sheer bloody lunacy.
@jimmyxx3 ?Indeed I have "been up in glider", I soloed at 17 was an full cat instructor at 20 and club CFI at 23. I watched many "experienced" glider pilots screw up over the years through sheer bad airmanship and showing off.
I have no idea what the clown was trying to either for teh crowd or to himself, but he clearly almost killed himself and he was the seat to stick inteface so he can blame no one but himself.
You're sort of right, i do plenty of "showing off" myself, well not showing off but trying to make things "less boring", I started solo flying when i was 15 i was in the Air Training Corps AND the gliding club, i fly in New Zealand and the scenary is pretty nice here.
@lhitchins Is there really a stall? If one wing only stalls we should see a rolling motion, if both stall a pitching motion. At 0:26 I see the plane nose down and a bit of a roll to the left, but the left wing seems to produce lift. Of course at that point it's too low too slow, the control surfaces can no longer provide sufficient forces and the energy is too low for a flare, the plane falls out of the sky. I feel with the pilot - it takes one small decision to get stuck in a spot like this.
@georgwilckens hey george, unfortuantely it is a classic incipent spin into the ground, the left wing and nose dropping are the glider begining to auto rotate had this been higher up it would have been more evident and would of course killed Mike, what saved him was being so low to the ground. I am not sure about an aerobatic swift but my Asitr CS uses about 250-300 ft recovering from one of these.
@lhitchins I'd expect more of a roll from the autorotation in a spin, so I'd guess it's falling. But either way there's no recovery without altitude at this point. Too low was the problem but as you say also what made the landing survivable.
@MrBigfatbloke i'm sorry but how dare you call him an incompetent pilot!! He is the britsh champion glider and a very good friend of me and my family. He didn't want to let down the people who came to watch and went up even though he knew he shouldn't of and yes that was a mistake but that gives you no right to call him things when you obviously hadn't done any research on him
@EllahPixiee i'll bet U believe in gods too!take a bloody good look at the video!100% STALL by PILOT ERROR.ask any flight instructor and he/she will tell U exactly what i claim.FLYING is respecting NATURAL LAWS. UR so called expert pilot did not respect the natural laws and crashed due to this.
@TANTAULUS no i do not belive in gods, but i don't down grade people who do. i no it was piolt error, but it doesn't change the facts!!!! he is still 3 times unlimited uk glider champion.
@EllahPixiee i point to REAL FACTS and i'm NOT as asskisser no matter who is involved.if U don't like my correct pointing the finger to the real cause...DON'T READ IT!simple as that.
@EllahPixiee I dare call him incompetent because he is....And what is he a champion of? Certainly not airmanship and certainly not a glider pilot....he made mistakes that an Air Cadet on his A&B would not make! If the man had any humility, he would not fly airshows again, but just go away quietly and learn how to fly. The research I need is the evidence of my own eyes!
@EllahPixiee sure but when youre flying when you shouldnt then that makes you incompetent. if the accident was avoidable then that makes any pilot stupid no matter whose friend he is. I hope he is ok though. we all learn from out mistakes
@EllahPixiee This shows that even excellent pilots can make mistakes. My personal reaction would be to never attempt a turn to final, that low. But again, I am not there, and I really don't know. Glad this pilot was not injured.
@jaramw. The pilot released as there was too much slack on the tow rope and if he carried on it might of snapped and if he did that away from the airfield it could of been worse
It was a turn without speed. Nothing to do with the poor weather. Stall speed of this plane is around 95 km/h, - in a slight turn! However, it was a rude turn requiring at least 130km/h, at an enormously low altitude...
Was it a strong gusty windy day? The way he descended so fast downwind from left to right looked like he was going to run out of energy for a steep low level turn into wind. It was jerky in execution which makes me think it was gusty. A strong breeze causes a steep wind gradient which would have made his left wing stall uncontrollably. He sure is one lucky pilot.
Yes it was quite a gusty day with intermittent rain. Very few aircraft displayed on the Sunday (more aircraft flew on the Saturday I understand, although it still wasn't a full dispaly by any means).
@petercstephenson Looking at peoples hair, the grass, etc it looks to me as though there was no wind at all. He must have had a fair bit of air speed so he should have been able to trade some for height.
I guess he did not want to put his wing down at the height he was at. The jerky execution seemed to be caused by the rudder action - I think he was kicking his left rudder. We all know what's going to happen when he does that!
see above It was a windy day and you are quite correct: a ruddered turn will induce a stall. Gliding instructors try to instill in their students NEVER to make a turn with just rudder. A.R.E! Aeleron first, Rudder second Elevator third. NEVER RAE as it will induce a spin at low AIR speed as the inside wing will stall first inducing the spin. Coupled with the steep wind gradient that affects the inside/lower wing more than the outer/upper wing: he had no hope!
@MrBigfatbloke We will have to ask the pilot because it makes no sense to me. Glider pilots use airbrakes to lose height only but he may have been using them to slow down because of the ground-rush illusion. With strong winds, flying near the ground makes the pilot think he is going too fast through the air which of course he/she is not. It is a classic killer demonstrated almost by:
@petercstephenson Thankyou! Seemed very strange, do you think he was experienced enough to cope? He seemed to be flying in a confused manner but thank goodness he survived.
If I were you @SWD245, I would not call him an idiot. There are many factors resulting in an accident. Unfortunately mistakes in flying are punished severely.
Any idea why he released so early ? This is the question ! Why so early, so low ? Rope , flight controls issues, wrong action in the cockpit ? Towing aircraft request or release ? Anybody knows ?
Looks like he forgot about the power lines, turned steeply to avoid and stall/spin
jerseyscampi 15 hours ago
type in on youtube team swift! the first video is this aerobatic team! i admit this is a low point (pardon the pun) but they are actually very very good pilots. Shame it happened though.
ThePenguin432 6 days ago
Looks like stall-spin applies to sail planes too.
klesmer 1 week ago
Polish glider - SWIFT :]
limadeltazulu 1 week ago
Looks like he tried to avoid that tower cable and tip stalled in the process
pbcrazy9898 1 week ago
Was coming in too low and too slow. Also looked a bit tail heavy possibly.
GaryLaaks1 1 week ago
I heard the pilot survived enough to throttle that annoying kid.
DuchessandHammer 2 weeks ago 3
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ThePenguin432 2 weeks ago
Whats with the "fasten seat belts" tone over the P.A.?
4NICK8TER1 3 weeks ago
@4NICK8TER1 I think its a warning to other aircraft and people that the police heli is about to go.
killerbeez95 6 days ago
It's broken down..... Says the observant child....
06dempc 3 weeks ago
There are old pilots and bold pilots but no old bold pilots.
Wardell2012 3 weeks ago
@Wardell2012 Go say that to Chuk Yeager
fm111971 3 weeks ago
0:41 ,, Ich will Pizza" that is German and means ,, I want pizza"
multiblackwulf1 1 month ago
......expecting a smoke cloud?
hunterTS4 1 month ago
An Absolute Idiot- ruined Aerobatic flying fun in this Country now?
doffincodger 1 month ago
@MrMickroach well yes and no, yes this was a stupid mistake and he shouldn't have flown in the first place but... he is still a good pilot, hence why he was flying displays in the first place, he's only human!
willbertdsgc 1 month ago
@doffincodger this guy is not an idiot... every good pilot makes mistakes in their life.
willbertdsgc 1 month ago
@willbertdsgc The man is a clown, he made every basic mistake from when he strapped in! Good pilots do not ,make mistakes and if you want to be a pilot, I suggest you factor that bfore you kill someone, or yourself! The keywords are Airmanship and professionalism! This clown is just that, dont forget it!
MrMickroach 1 month ago
How did this idiot get to fly a Swift!
Wish I was an idiot too!
doffincodger 1 month ago
In smooth air he might have got away with that tight turn, but turbulence seemed to mess things up
TungstenKid 2 months ago
If the glider crashed into the kid that would have made this vid awesome....... Stop it your all thinking that admit it
LazDevice 2 months ago
0:27 he seemed disappointed and not suprised lol
xZeRoXVeNoMzX 2 months ago
wind is not calculate able
Flugfritze96 2 months ago
Podle mého je to vořech s pěti hodinama!
kloakovalimonada 2 months ago
the glider pilot got so fed up with tat irritating kid!
floppycheese96 2 months ago
Sorry, spelling error- absolute idiot. How did he get to fly a Swift?
doffincodger 3 months ago
Bonus Picard sighting at 0:30
visioneerone 3 months ago
@CameltoeJuice He He, Polish pilots helped you. Squadron 303. Don't you know.
yarcyk 3 months ago
what an asolute prat!
doffincodger 3 months ago
He is not a glider pilot - he is a dart pilot, which is good, because there is a shortage of them at the moment.
callmeshane303 3 months ago
Fuck I hate that when the moron commentator says "Stay where you are"
callmeshane303 4 months ago
@callmeshane303 hes actually a really nice guy, not a moron.
limavadylad 3 months ago
@limavadylad
Well my opinion is mine - so fuck off.
callmeshane303 3 months ago
@callmeshane303 , grow up .....
limavadylad 3 months ago
@limavadylad
No - your idea - you do it.
callmeshane303 3 months ago
@callmeshane303 hah... only a child swears at people ......
limavadylad 3 months ago
@limavadylad
And only a dumb cunt is stupid enough to think that.
callmeshane303 3 months ago
This guy is a legend I flew with him recently at nh such an awesome guy
Liam1079 4 months ago
Duck tape the brat....
matrix49A 4 months ago
@matrix49A
It's DUCT tape - for air conditioning ducts.....
callmeshane303 3 months ago
@callmeshane303 OK Stuff the brat in a duct and then tape his mouth shut.
matrix49A 3 months ago
@matrix49A With duck tape.
callmeshane303 3 months ago
I'm going gliding for the first time on Sunday, why the fuck did I watch this lool
Minidrags 4 months ago
did he die?
Holliethedog 4 months ago
@Holliethedog No, he suffered a broken back but survived
muggles1985 4 months ago
@Holliethedog no
MrEngelchen 3 months ago
Thats y I dont go to air shows.
LionTipu 4 months ago
if the pilot walked away from the airplane, it was a good landing.
happy birthday pilot!
tiredlight 4 months ago 21
@tiredlight - Ugh I hate that phrase. So wrong it hurts.
aaron8862006 1 month ago
Shut your kid up!!!
keystonebrotherb 4 months ago 40
@keystonebrotherb but this kid was right "it's broken down"
AaronISB 4 months ago
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MrSchpankme 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
At about 0:30 a little child says:
It's broken down!
Musicman1582 5 months ago
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Musicman1582 5 months ago
How did he think he could get away with doing a sharp 180 so close to the ground. Im guessing he was running out of space and had no choice but a seriously BAD piece of flying assuming the plane was sound.
chanctonbury63 5 months ago
Mr BIGFATBLOKE,Er- so this is how British compent aerobatic pilots fly?
doffincodger 5 months ago
@doffincodger Trolllollollollloollolllolllooll... looooollllll!!!
MrEngelchen 3 months ago
check this video carefully ... HIS RUDDER DID NOT MOVE .. therefore so much skidding and skidding in turn which otherwise would be fully coordinated and would brig him safely to the ground....
He must noticed rudder malfunction on the tow .. therefore released so quickly ...
my 3 pennies ...KC
kcichon 5 months ago 3
What does "he went up though he knew he shouldnt" mean?
Why shouldn't he have gone up?
TungstenKid 5 months ago
@TungstenKid Really windy for a glider resulting in a woopsie
limavadylad 3 months ago
Worst. Crash. Ever.
K5Cruz 6 months ago
Did the rope broke or why he let down from the towning?
JuhaNissi 6 months ago
I would'nt lend him my glider!
doffincodger 6 months ago
@doffincodger And I'm sure he wouldn't wipe your arse either.
MrEngelchen 3 months ago
he's broken down!
whyibelieveitsafish 6 months ago
dd he live?
FCbisleybob 6 months ago
@FCbisleybob yes, he walked away from this O_O
Flyingwigs 5 months ago
saw that coming as he even attemted the last turn.. Good that the pilot is fine - i guess hes sitting now whatching the video ans asking himself "how could i even try that?" ^^
However, as long as hes not carryng passengers, its only his life at stack if hes doing such manovers... I hope with passenger he would fly a bit safer :)
Maverickx89 6 months ago
? look carrefuly! There was something wrong with this glider. A pilot atemped to land short after takieoff and with the wind direction. But he made big mistake using air-brakes too early and then turning left rapidly. Left wing almost stopped relative to the air and lost it's ability to keep the plane in the air safely.
maroFX 6 months ago
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maroFX 6 months ago
Love the difference between this and American reactions on other videos. Here it's just like 'oh, he crashed....'
kinkyplunk 6 months ago
I was there and I was so close to it
Jap1999UK 7 months ago
i was there that day and it was terrible....... the weather was awful with low lying clouds which ment the aircraft that did fly had to fly very low.... it was a terrible thing that happened and i wish the poilet all the best xxx
misskiwipom 7 months ago
Cause of accident: Pilot Ego
happystance9able 7 months ago
Bad things happen at air shows.
Dont go.
RonSkem 8 months ago
I hope that he is ok! Looks like he got caught in sinking air immidiatley after release. In hinds sight, should not have been flying, should have landed downwind on the grass, but that is easy for anyone to say watching from an armchair. The low altitude turn at a low airspeed resulting in a stall/spin and impact with the ground is the killer of both the best and worst pilots.
f47lbx3 8 months ago
It was is a great and fantastic air show . The viewers saw the flight and crashing . So this is the flying reality . I wonder to why flying one idiot and unfit pilot ?? This is man was destroy the show ...
otto63363 8 months ago
Written from the position of an crash investigator: Pilot Error.
Bottom of the oceans, lakes and many shallow pits on the ground are full of "good, briliant, competent" etc. pilots who made the same mistake: If it ain't flying wether, you don't fly!
Deep water divers, if something does not feel "right" the day of the dive, you do not dive! Same thing should be true and enforced for pilots.
hetmanbasza 8 months ago
Thats what happens when you try and land up wind!
Fivinator 8 months ago
incip while whe tried to turn?
sailesh2001 9 months ago
(Glider crashes) Little kid: Bwoken down!
ICEWOLF7600 10 months ago
@ICEWOLF7600 about 13 or 14 times.......
wierdwesterner 10 months ago
At least he wasn't flying a B-52.
nocalsteve 10 months ago
Final nail in the coffin was that left rudder. Anyway we are all human, glad he is ok.
helipilot727 11 months ago
Lessons learned.
keegan773 11 months ago
the kid in the audience should be banned
seppomuppit 11 months ago
low and slow
reggiepudding 11 months ago
Wow! Obviously no plan, a bad decision topped by poor judgement. I bet he replayed that fuck up while in a hospital bed a million times, We all can learn a thing or two from this. Hope he recovers and gets back in the seat. His ego may have been clouding his judgemant and skills given the conditions. No arguement and no need to reply.
tn66367 11 months ago
I waz there =)
TheTOXICHAZARD 1 year ago
They act so casual when it crashes.
jimmyxx3 1 year ago
Looks to me like the pressure to fly took it's toll. I don't know this guy and I bow to those that do, but this is 100% pilot error. There but for the grace of god and all that. I hope he has recovered well.
twohelmets 1 year ago
I don`t care how good a pilot he is or how the weather was, he just made a huge mistake. Every judgment from early release to the turns was a mistake.
easyeagle2 1 year ago
I was there!!
XxXB4KST4BBAXxX 1 year ago
Someone died?
CheckThisSaw 1 year ago
I don't know Mike, but if that's the same Swift the British team always used, then I've flown it once and I also had to make an early landing when the tow planes engine or prop failed.
turdsurfer 1 year ago
i was there that day and it was a shocking day for an airdisplay..i do believe there were t-storms in the area that day too.
wishing the pilot a speedy recovery!
tomtomx4 1 year ago
at 0.23 in video pilot error STALL ! (almost no foreward speed anymore wings banked so much that no lift could be supplied anymore UNDER the wing.
==>> ask any genuine flightinstructor and he/she will confirm what i state.
to fly an aircraft the pilot have to respect a certain amount of natural laws involved in the definition of a FLIGHT by an airplane.the videofootage is the proof.
TANTAULUS 1 year ago
Liste to the little girl! "Its Broken Down"!!!! LOL
ndubzfan2009 1 year ago
I think he should do just one 180degree turn and land. what was he thinking?
I was taught, that if rope breaks below 150m, i should never try to do the whole (even 2 turn) pattern.
Born2Freeride 1 year ago
why nobody seemes to give a shit about the crash?
Activeskies 1 year ago
appears to have been unstable the entire tow. Looks like he "aborted" a full tow... which should have ascended above a thousand feet. something was wrong maybe the ceiling was very low that day...
groovee63 1 year ago
From from a full slip with the spoilers out this dude tries to make a 180 degree turn because he finds out he's badly overshot the runway. Time to get an award for bad judgment if not have his certificates pulled. (I don't think there was any control problem the way he was able to initiate those turns. If that turns out to be the actual cause then I resend my comments, if not this guy is a dork, every pilot knows the correlation between stall speed combined with steep banks.....
CaptSly 1 year ago
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CaptSly 1 year ago
why he broke the rope soo early??
xjosemaxx 1 year ago
It's not like an air show, it's an idiot pilot show.
TheMrmujid 1 year ago
I think the glider i flew was much better :)
faysalbest1 1 year ago
I suspect he released so soon because he was aware he had a control problem. he is clearly having difficulty controlling it as soon as he turned back to the runway. Probably not enough ground ahead to land ahead, hence the attempt to get back to the take off end and turn into wind.
zulunine 1 year ago
he hit skin im gessing and lost to much hight! adn tryed to make the turn but stall on wing! poor guy hope he gets better soon!
jakem1900 1 year ago
dailymail *DOT* co *DOT* uk/news/article-1311828/Shoreham-air-crash-pilot-escapes-stunt-glider-smashes-runway.html
Pilot sustained a few cracked vertebrae but should recover.
amovieviewer 1 year ago
The nightmare of a glider pilot!
hope Mike will be better so he can fly again!
JMeyerProductions 1 year ago
You should never (ever ever ever ) take off to please somebody else
garyfreefly1 1 year ago
That's an awfully low release!
ancarazo 1 year ago
One of Britains finest glider pilots, and a member of one of Britians best display teams, hoping Mike has a quick recovery.
chippenham1 1 year ago
0:28 Sir Patrick Stewart looks worried.
tf2whackyengineer 1 year ago
@tasticross O DJEE IT WAS THE FAULT OF THE GLIDER!look dumbo if U don't know anything about flying just shut the fuck up!if a pilot U turns an airplane this way he takes out all LIFT...if U do this with a glider than it's kind a suicide.airplanes,gliders included,need LIFT UNDER THEIR WINGS.
this is a genuine case of PILOT ERROR and i'll stick to my knowledge.
TANTAULUS 1 year ago
@TANTAULUS gliders are highly sensitive to wind gusts it's not like a normal plane. There might be an element of "pilot error" for accepting to fly in such a weather - but then we don't even know exactly what happened, like may be the cable broke... and wind can be highly random, so give the guy a break. Thankfully gliders are slow machines and pilots can survive crashes like this. A normal airplane would have turned into a ball of mangled metal and fire.
rolfen 1 year ago
@TANTAULUS It's quite funny that you talk of having all of this experience with flying and yet you consider that planes/gliders need lift UNDER their wings. This is an incorrect statement. the majority of lift is created by the airflow over the top of the aerofoil. when the AOA is too high for the given airspeed the laminair airflow brakes away from the top surface of the wing and it stalls. in this case the inside wing was going slower = less lift, it stalled first and the glider spun in.
lhitchins 1 year ago
@lhitchins The aerodynamics is very clear, there was a clown in the cockpit. And for your reference, if you wish to quote aerodynamics, perhaps you should first understand the subject..
MrBigfatbloke 1 year ago
@MrBigfatbloke = why dont you put down your MS FSX and go out and acutally learn to fly. I dont confess to being an expert in aerodynamics but i DO KNOW that a glider produces lift over the top of the wind to the sum of around 70% of the total lift. Also having done exstensive stalling and spinning training in sailplanes I think that puts me in a position to say it as I see it. Too Low, Slow and an over ruddered turn, Classic spin in acciedent inside wing higher AOA and stalled 1st
lhitchins 1 year ago
@lhitchins You seem quite keen to stamp you superior knowledge on anyone who dares challenge your fragile understanding, especially on aerodynamics...I would say that your statement to me indicates that what I suggested was correct.I must admit, I am clueless as to what a MS FSX is, but it sounds awfully painful. Try starting with Cl1/2rhoVsquaredS
MrBigfatbloke 1 year ago
@MrBigfatbloke I know how loading and AOA values affect stall speeds, a glider with a 1g stall of 35 knots will stall at 70 knots in a turn with 4g and I understand the calculations envolved. I am not trying to stamp on anyone, merely that I dont like people who will call someone a friend even a clown or twat because they made a mistake and yes Mike made a mistake dont forget he is 3 times unlimited champion, I dont see people slamming steve fossett for flying to close to a ridge during rotor.
lhitchins 1 year ago
@lhitchins Thats a good start then, I take it you are a glider pilot? The clown flying this glider is a bad airman, he is the epitome of someone who mistakes ambition for ability and he is a clown. A basic A&B from the ATC would not have made the most fundamental and basic mistakes he made and I put it down to the fools puerile ego. I have seen egos kill people many times in my career, Fosset was yet another who cocked a snook at airmanship, as did Hoof and the fool in the hurricane.
MrBigfatbloke 1 year ago
@MrBigfatbloke, yes I am a sailplane pilot. In this case it was not a matter of ego, half the airshow that day had been cancelled due to high wind and low CB and mike did not want to let the crowd down, that combined with a weak link failure and too high ground speed resulted in what you saw, he had run out of runway when he decided to turn instead of hitting parked aircraft or people.and in case you didnt know the shuttle has a better L/D ratio than a swift. they fly like a brick :)
lhitchins 1 year ago
@lhitchins Look at the facts man:-
The weather was poor with low cloud base and severegusting conditions.
There was never any chance that he would make enough height to display.
I dont think a weak link broke, he cast himself adrift...weak link is the oldest excuse in the book but if it did break, it proves he shouldnt have flown in gusts of that magnitude.
He should have S turned or executed a 360 or landed ahead but he turned downwind and then.....deployed the airbrakes all shocking!!
MrBigfatbloke 1 year ago
@MrBigfatbloke The whole display was on the back of the tug, he never intended to climb to 4k and display. what ever happened nothing would of worked apart from a straight in to wind steep approach. no S turn or 360 in the height and space at shoreham he would have stalled in anyway in a swift..
lhitchins 1 year ago
@lhitchins So he turned downwind and deployed the airbrakes? Aircraft only stall if you allow the flow to unstick, ie., fly too slow. I think your loyalty to the man is comendable but misplaced, he showed a lack of airmanship that a professional airman would never,ever have done. I remember years ago, the CFI of Bicster Gliding Centre killed himself by allowing his ego to take over and he overstressed the aircraft to an extent, the wingtips fell off.. Ego versus display=accident
MrBigfatbloke 1 year ago
@MrBigfatbloke I would tend to agree with you, Mike however is not macho or egotistical he simply did not want to disapoint the crowd that day. What followed was a simple error in judgement, we have all made those and got away with it, Mike didnt, he elected to try and land down wind ran out of space was then too low and slow to come 180 degrees the rest was inevitable . Poor judgement? - yes. clown, fool, macho or egotistical? most definately not.
lhitchins 1 year ago 2
@lhitchins Sir, with any type of aircraft that crashes due to pilot, simple error of judgement is not an excuse, it is condemnation of the person and their ability to act as a commander. All errors are mitigated by being professional in the mindset before you committ to aviate. I would enjoy being a witness to you telling John Romain that we all make erros and get away with it. Your chum failed to hack, screwed up and almost killed himself..that is sheer bloody lunacy.
MrBigfatbloke 1 year ago
@MrBigfatbloke
Have you even been up in a glider?
Do you think that guy was "trying" to kill himself?
jimmyxx3 1 year ago
@jimmyxx3 ?Indeed I have "been up in glider", I soloed at 17 was an full cat instructor at 20 and club CFI at 23. I watched many "experienced" glider pilots screw up over the years through sheer bad airmanship and showing off.
I have no idea what the clown was trying to either for teh crowd or to himself, but he clearly almost killed himself and he was the seat to stick inteface so he can blame no one but himself.
MrBigfatbloke 1 year ago
@MrBigfatbloke
You're sort of right, i do plenty of "showing off" myself, well not showing off but trying to make things "less boring", I started solo flying when i was 15 i was in the Air Training Corps AND the gliding club, i fly in New Zealand and the scenary is pretty nice here.
jimmyxx3 1 year ago
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@jimmyxx3 Yes, I have been up in a glider!
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lhitchins 1 year ago
@lhitchins Is there really a stall? If one wing only stalls we should see a rolling motion, if both stall a pitching motion. At 0:26 I see the plane nose down and a bit of a roll to the left, but the left wing seems to produce lift. Of course at that point it's too low too slow, the control surfaces can no longer provide sufficient forces and the energy is too low for a flare, the plane falls out of the sky. I feel with the pilot - it takes one small decision to get stuck in a spot like this.
georgwilckens 7 months ago
@georgwilckens hey george, unfortuantely it is a classic incipent spin into the ground, the left wing and nose dropping are the glider begining to auto rotate had this been higher up it would have been more evident and would of course killed Mike, what saved him was being so low to the ground. I am not sure about an aerobatic swift but my Asitr CS uses about 250-300 ft recovering from one of these.
lhitchins 7 months ago
@lhitchins I'd expect more of a roll from the autorotation in a spin, so I'd guess it's falling. But either way there's no recovery without altitude at this point. Too low was the problem but as you say also what made the landing survivable.
georgwilckens 7 months ago
@MrBigfatbloke i'm sorry but how dare you call him an incompetent pilot!! He is the britsh champion glider and a very good friend of me and my family. He didn't want to let down the people who came to watch and went up even though he knew he shouldn't of and yes that was a mistake but that gives you no right to call him things when you obviously hadn't done any research on him
EllahPixiee 1 year ago 14
@EllahPixiee i'll bet U believe in gods too!take a bloody good look at the video!100% STALL by PILOT ERROR.ask any flight instructor and he/she will tell U exactly what i claim.FLYING is respecting NATURAL LAWS. UR so called expert pilot did not respect the natural laws and crashed due to this.
TANTAULUS 1 year ago
@TANTAULUS no i do not belive in gods, but i don't down grade people who do. i no it was piolt error, but it doesn't change the facts!!!! he is still 3 times unlimited uk glider champion.
EllahPixiee 1 year ago
@EllahPixiee i point to REAL FACTS and i'm NOT as asskisser no matter who is involved.if U don't like my correct pointing the finger to the real cause...DON'T READ IT!simple as that.
TANTAULUS 1 year ago
@TANTAULUS if YOU don't like me putting across my point of view... Don't read it. Was i talking to you when you decided to get involved? NO.
EllahPixiee 1 year ago
@EllahPixiee Tantaulus is a penis, just ignore his narrow minded comments like everyone else does, f++king armchair pilot.
lhitchins 1 year ago
@EllahPixiee I dare call him incompetent because he is....And what is he a champion of? Certainly not airmanship and certainly not a glider pilot....he made mistakes that an Air Cadet on his A&B would not make! If the man had any humility, he would not fly airshows again, but just go away quietly and learn how to fly. The research I need is the evidence of my own eyes!
MrBigfatbloke 1 year ago
@EllahPixiee
Such an experienced pilot should have known better. He just set a bad example.
Doesn't mean he's not a nice bloke.
fgroen1225 10 months ago
@EllahPixiee You said it right. Accidents can happen even to the best of us.
dimitrigregorieff 8 months ago
@EllahPixiee sure but when youre flying when you shouldnt then that makes you incompetent. if the accident was avoidable then that makes any pilot stupid no matter whose friend he is. I hope he is ok though. we all learn from out mistakes
straighttailpilot 6 months ago
@EllahPixiee This shows that even excellent pilots can make mistakes. My personal reaction would be to never attempt a turn to final, that low. But again, I am not there, and I really don't know. Glad this pilot was not injured.
gilbert20 5 months ago
@EllahPixiee
Dry your eyes, Princess. Your mate stuffed up and, moreover, he knows he stuffed up.
jmcwilliamson 5 months ago
@EllahPixiee Oh give it a rest, if he was half as good as you claim he would not have gone up when it wasn't appropriate to do so.
BaronKuffner 5 months ago
Low slow turn = stall and crash.
keegan773 1 year ago
@jaramw. The pilot released as there was too much slack on the tow rope and if he carried on it might of snapped and if he did that away from the airfield it could of been worse
MrAzboo 1 year ago
Just come of shift in control and this happens.
m3ypu 1 year ago
@romulusmare it is a Swift S-1 glider, specially designed for aerobatics
oversteer80 1 year ago
@oversteer80 Obviously not designed for incompetent pilots. I would say thats an end to this chaps airshow clearance!
MrBigfatbloke 1 year ago
What glider was it? Hope that Mike will get better soon.
romulusmare 1 year ago
Get well soon, Mike. Best wishes from al of us who have enjoyed your displays in the past.
seafuryfan 1 year ago
It was a turn without speed. Nothing to do with the poor weather. Stall speed of this plane is around 95 km/h, - in a slight turn! However, it was a rude turn requiring at least 130km/h, at an enormously low altitude...
avant74 1 year ago
Was it a strong gusty windy day? The way he descended so fast downwind from left to right looked like he was going to run out of energy for a steep low level turn into wind. It was jerky in execution which makes me think it was gusty. A strong breeze causes a steep wind gradient which would have made his left wing stall uncontrollably. He sure is one lucky pilot.
petercstephenson 1 year ago
@petercstephenson
Yes it was quite a gusty day with intermittent rain. Very few aircraft displayed on the Sunday (more aircraft flew on the Saturday I understand, although it still wasn't a full dispaly by any means).
Mrkennedyuk 1 year ago
@petercstephenson Looking at peoples hair, the grass, etc it looks to me as though there was no wind at all. He must have had a fair bit of air speed so he should have been able to trade some for height.
I guess he did not want to put his wing down at the height he was at. The jerky execution seemed to be caused by the rudder action - I think he was kicking his left rudder. We all know what's going to happen when he does that!
Hypothebai 1 year ago
see above It was a windy day and you are quite correct: a ruddered turn will induce a stall. Gliding instructors try to instill in their students NEVER to make a turn with just rudder. A.R.E! Aeleron first, Rudder second Elevator third. NEVER RAE as it will induce a spin at low AIR speed as the inside wing will stall first inducing the spin. Coupled with the steep wind gradient that affects the inside/lower wing more than the outer/upper wing: he had no hope!
petercstephenson 1 year ago
@petercstephenson Would you speculate why he had the airbrakes out going downwind?
MrBigfatbloke 1 year ago
@MrBigfatbloke We will have to ask the pilot because it makes no sense to me. Glider pilots use airbrakes to lose height only but he may have been using them to slow down because of the ground-rush illusion. With strong winds, flying near the ground makes the pilot think he is going too fast through the air which of course he/she is not. It is a classic killer demonstrated almost by:
youtube.com/watch?v=zfFGN-3Yglo
petercstephenson 1 year ago
@petercstephenson Thankyou! Seemed very strange, do you think he was experienced enough to cope? He seemed to be flying in a confused manner but thank goodness he survived.
MrBigfatbloke 1 year ago
@petercstephenson
Nope just an idiot who obiouslly dont know anithing about how plnaes fly.. that all
SWD245 1 year ago
@petercstephenson
Nope just an idiot who do not know anything about how planes fly.. that all
SWD245 1 year ago
If I were you @SWD245, I would not call him an idiot. There are many factors resulting in an accident. Unfortunately mistakes in flying are punished severely.
petercstephenson 1 year ago
Any idea why he released so early ? This is the question ! Why so early, so low ? Rope , flight controls issues, wrong action in the cockpit ? Towing aircraft request or release ? Anybody knows ?
LTL974 9 months ago
@LTL974 Illigal to fly into cloud base unfortunatly. If it was clearer he could have gone higher.
Fivinator 8 months ago
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petercstephenson 1 year ago