Of all the vs. star wars and battlestar are closest in tech if you get rid of the pure fraken magic that goes with the star wars universe and use more realistic weapon stats it would be one hell of a battle and I don't think the the star destroyers would be able to fly magestically by with no damage. remember a battlestar can take a nuclear impact in contact with the hull and are pretty much one big weopons platform. Just saying the contest wont be as on sided as you might think.
@watron12 Actually of all the vs. Star Wars and Warhammer 40,000 are closest in tech.
Battlestars can take only low level nuclear impacts, from Class D Tactical warheads (70 kilotons - 1 Megaton) Star Destroyers on the other hand are known to dish out and take 100-800 Teratons of fire every second for half an hour straight before their shields go down. It would actually be far more one sided as you might think.
The star destroyers shield would fail within a few min you think all those shots wouldn't break those shields we are talking yet again 200 megatons a shot just with 5 shots we are talking 1 billion megatons of damage just because the shields don't fail the force of the impact would rip the hull apart take for example the asteroid destroying the star destroyer the force alone ripped it apart
Also it should be noted that the main reason TIE Fighters lack shields is because fighter weapons in Star Wars are usually powerful enough to blow through fighter shielding anyhow (look at how fast X-Wings and Y-Wings go down in the films) So the Empire figured it would be more worthwhile to save the reactor power to be put into engines and weapons instead. Up against BSG where they use considerably weaker weapons and engines, there would be no reason to make such a trade-off.
@Perion you just dont quit do you well even if the galactica couldnt do it a gualld hatack could vanquish a star destroyer within minutes each weapon firing with 200 megatons of force and we are talking at least 30 cannons nt to mention the death gliders that could destroy the tie fighters outnumbered easy 3 to 1 gu alld mothership ftw oh not to mention the earlie models could withstand two multi megaton nukes enhanced wth naquida like they were nothing
@charlesyazell21 While Stargate is far more powerful than Galactica or Star Trek, you still don't realize just how powerful Star Wars is.
Yet again the Star Destroyer wouldn't even feel it, you have to get into the Gigatons for them to even notice.
An Acclamator, which isn't even a dedicated warship, has 200,000 Megatons per gun, along 12 guns, it's shields are also far stronger, which makes sense considering it's primarily a Dropship, an ISD is 300x more powerful.
As for the Death Gliders, while they have Inertial Dampenersm are nowhere near as fast or as maneuverable as TIE Fighters. Their max speed is 12,000 kph (though amusingly their acceleration is unknown). TIE Fighters have no max speed in space, while they'll never reach 299,792,458 meters per second they will never stop accelerating towards it if they want to. Though their acceleration will progressively decrease the closer they get. F-302s would also get torn to shreds by TIEs.
@Perion incase you arent familiar naquida increases the nukes power by 100x say 5 megaton warhead we are talking two 500 megaton warheads that didnt even phase the hatack so yea not saying it wouldnt take damage but the star destroyer would loose this one
@charlesyazell21 Considering a Star Destroyer can dish out literally millions of times that firepower a second, no, I'm sorry but Star Destroyer still wins.
If you want a race that can beat the Empire, try the Daleks, the Xeelee, the Culture, the Anti-Spirals, the Sayains etc.
A good barometer is if a race is incapable of Petaton level firepower in conventional ship arsenals then they won't be any sort of threat to the Empire.
I assumed the Colonials might have a better shot against the Imperials, could be wrong. It's amazing to see how those Tie Bombers literally tore those battlestars to shreds, have to look into that. The Vipers performed a whole lot better than the average Tie Fighter but in this scenario, it's a lot different. Although I do enjoy this mini film, have some serious questions about the outcome of the battle.
@MsGundamace Vipers lack inertial dampeners/acceleration compensators, and so are limited in maneuverability and acceleration to human G tollerances, TIE Fighters have no such limitation and are known to be capable of pulling thousands of Gs. Not to mention the firepower of a TIE Fighter is pretty obscene by Battlestar Galactica standards.
@Perion ROFLMAO! TIE Fighters pulling thousands of G's? I think you'd need to be jumping to lightspeed without inertial dampeners to do that. Show me a scene from one of the movies where a TIE fighter shows even a fraction of that kind of manuverability... the Vipers would fly circles around TIE Fighters, in BSG we SEE them flip end over end in a second or two and fly off on a new heading (or continue the same way to strafe a target)
@KaneinEncanto While no scenes directly show that acceleration, we are shown several sequences where such acceleration MUST exist, and the novelization describes this along with several of the books, such as "Death Star" and "Complete Cross Sections". Two examples are in ANH, the first is when the X-Wings make a trip from Yavin IV to the Death Star more than 300,000 km away, in a timeframe of around 5 minutes (They were on a clock before they even took off), this requires ~5000g average accel
@KaneinEncanto Fliping end over end is NOT a useful technique, in fact it's downright suicidal as it means you relinquish your ability to change your vector while an enemy is on your tail, which means, even if it's for only a second or two, you're dead. Also even if you survive long enough to start on a new heading you have to fight your own inertia, it's easier to bank (which means you are turning on multiple axis) and use your inertia instead, which looks allot like atmospheric flight.
While obviously I have no real life experience with that sort of thing, I have played enough space flight simulators to know that the person who can fly in space in the traditional Star Wars/Star Trek/Original Battlestar Galactica method actually has an advantage over the Babylon 5/Neo Battlestar Galactica method, and I'll take a simulator over Hollywood choreography any day of the week.
@Perion "Fliping end over end is NOT a useful technique" It depends on the situation, if as in the opening minute or so of this video, the fighters are moving at each other relatively head-on, the Vipers should pass the TIE fighters then perform the flip. Their guns would be pointed at the TIEs while the TIEs would still be banking around. The manuver would not be performed with an enemy on your tail.
@KaneinEncanto Considering realistically there wouldn't be any Vipers left after the initial pass it's a moot point. Even assuming a few Vipers survived, they would now have to try and lead targets with unknown and truly frightening capabilities. All the while relinquishing their ability to maneuver as they effectively reduce themselves to being glorified turrets.
@KaneinEncanto During the Battle of Yavin and the Battle of Endor, there was heavy jamming coming from the Death Star or the Communications ship, the ANH novelization states that the distortions are so intense as to reduce engine performance down to 0.3 in and around the Death Star trench, the maneuverability and acceleration observed during the battle of yavin is only 0.3% that of what these fighters can do in open space.
Since the Communications Ship at endor jammed them so badly that they couldn't even tell if the DS2's shields were up or not, it can be presumed that they had similar problems there as well. Considering Vipers have human G tolerances in their performance levels then they would lose control and drift through space the moment they entered the jamming field, just like they did when the Cylons hacked their systems only this time, it has nothing to do with their OS/Computers.
Perion is correct in what he is saying, numerous sources including the mivies suggest stardestroyers can maintain firepower in the range of 10^16mW, fielding multi-gigaton and multi-teraton DET weaponry. This is far more powerful than ST or BSG.
all i have to say is that i didnt see any of the battlestars shoot at all with the massive amount of weapons they have i mean really your not thinking of the fact that battlestars have nukes which granted dont do as much damage in space as they do on a planet but still battlestars have at least 12 missile battery each one launching a nuke yea goodbye star destroyers
@charlesyazell21 Oh I am thinking of the Nukes, and they are 1 megaton at best, nowhere near the yield of a Photon torpedo, so yeah nothing in either The Federation, or THe 12 colonies/Cylon fleets would stand a chance against a Star Destroyer. Hell they could all team up and commit their entire combined militaries to the task and still wouldn't be a threat.
@charlesyazell21 Multiple sources, With Star Trek I'll admit I was being generous using their non-canon technical manuals for their yield, on screen the Torpedoes show a firepower roughly on par with Battlestar tactical nukes. Battlestar Galactica are on screen stated to use Class D Warheads, in real life, Class D Warheads vary anywhere from 70 Kilotons to 1 megaton. Cylons have been shown using 50 megaton Strategic Nukes, but only when attacking planets and shipyards.
@Perion hmm did you see what i said about how weak the shield gen on star destroyers are even at one megaton they wouldnt hold up to an onslaught of 12 nukes
@charlesyazell21 The Shields are extremely strong on Star Destroyers, and you can't target the shield generators since they are deep inside the ship itself, meanwhile the shield projectors make up the final layer of the hull armour. The common misconception that the two globes on the top of the ship are shield generators is just that, a misconception. They are actually ComScan globes, which makes sense as they resemble the radomes used on modern warships.
@charlesyazell21 The misconception comes from a scene in return of the jedi where a Pair of A-Wings destroy one of these globes as the shields are collapsing, leading many to the mistaken conclusion that the globes destruction brought down the shields rather than the other way around. In reality the bombardment from Ackbar and the other capital ships in the rebel fleet caused the bridge shields to collapse. Not the A-Wings.
@Perion wikipedia says the globes are infact the shield projectors and what about the final star wars battle an a wing was able to just fly thru the bridge and bring it down that right there throws out your whole nuke idea of nukes not having any effect thats from the movie not a game so its legit
@charlesyazell21 Wikipedia is a public site that anyone can edit, so anything there is to be taken with a grain of salt and not at face value. The "Inside the world of star wars" books as well as Industrial Light and Magic blueprints for the Star Destroyer models used for the film label them as sensors, interviews with the special effects teams and refer to them as such during the making of ROTJ.
@charlesyazell21 Actually I do, Star Wars: Complete Locations page 170 "At Endor, pounded mercilessly by the capital ships of the Rebel Alliance flotilla, the ship's shields -Equivalent to the total power of a medium star- fail. At that moment, the Rebels are able to strafe the command tower - and with the Executor's navigation suite in ruins and defensive guns losing coordination, a careening A-wing destroys the bridge." Written with ILM being involved, and approved by the production designer.
@Perion and i think that if george lucus didnt want the a wings to bring it down he would not have put it in the movie so stop spamming your made up facts the facts are right in the movie
@charlesyazell21 Only one A-Wing brought down the Executor, the others just took out the globes, I have proof from ILM blueprints, interviews and books, all you have is your mistaken interpretation of the film, non-canon game mechanics, and Wikipedia which is not a valid source in and of itself. Keep in mind that the "Shield Generator/Sensor Globe" debate is common in the Star Wars community, however Lucasfilm is quite clear on them being sensors.
@Perion i played x wing vs tie fighter once and star destroyers were easy to kill once you destroyed the shield gens which didnt take long at all with a little x wing imagin this if you will grant me that battlestar jumps in and targets the shield gens with twelve nukes after two nukes to each one shields are gone then you have the rest of the nukes focused on the bridge im no super expert on either series but i know that it mabey took 3 or four missles from my x wing
@charlesyazell21 I've played F-15 Strike Eagle II, and in that game, an F-15 can take a half-dozen direct hits from SAM's before it goes down (in reality, one proximity hit will kill it easily). Can we agree that it's silly to use computer gameplay as a basis for technological assessments? Besides, the folks at lucasarts have gone on record saying that game mechanics are explicitly non-canon.
@Perion lame well there goes that plan what if a viper flew inside the fighter bay of the star destroyer and was armed with nukes cant really stop that because once you are inside the sd shield array nothing they can do really especialy if they have plenty of cover for the turbo lasers to shoot at
@charlesyazell21 Wouldn't work either, 1 That area of the ship has heavy anti-fighter coverage, so the Viper would never get anywhere near that close, 2. You wouldn't be inside the shield array since it hugs the hull rather tightly. 3. even if the ISD didn't have a hull hugging shield it would still be impossible since ISDs use both Ray and Particle shields, the Viper would go splat like a bug on a wind-shield. 4 That's not even taking into account the Jammers.
@Perion to destroy the generators then i would targt the bridge few min later done and the battlestar has one hell of a hull as far as the federation in the early series the first encounters with the romulans were fought with nukes then they stopped using them too much collateral damage i think but they are way more powerfull than photon or quantum torpedoes the torpedoes work like bunker busters getting inside the ship and then detonating thats why they are so strong
G-canon: is what you see in the movies or read in the novels. %99.9 of what Mr. Perion states is from C-canon. G-Canon overrides the C-canon. This means most of Perion numbers and data does not matter or exists. So those "gigaton lasers" are really kiloton lasers or lower by movie standards.
Sorry to interrupt your brainwashing of the youtube community, Perion....
More spamming of invalid numbers by Perion?! It just never ends. No matter how much he spams it will never make any sense to anyone with a logical brain. 12,000 gigatons make a hand grenade explosion? Typical starwars BS. Okay, but I don't wanna be a part of any retarded universe like that.
More retarded numbers plz. Drown the people in more false information Perion. Make them believe the retardation by spamming them to death with lower C-canon data that's not used by Starwars movies.
the FTL dives in BSG would not be affected by gravity wells, they don't work in the same manner. star wars warp causes a ship to slip into subspace sort of a more concise space, the faster than light drive literally propels a ship to a location at the speed of light, which according to Einstein would cause time to stop for those moving at FTL. So moving that fast you would blink out of reality and simultaneously blinking back into reality in another location while never ceasing to exist.
I don't like how the Battlestars got their asses kicked. I am sure that the two forces would have had a equal chance of winning. I am guessing that the Battlestar that survived was the Galatica. Still, nice video.
Oh my god, I watched this video a year ago and I come back and Perion still to this day is trying to convince everyone about made-up scientific figures. Remember, Star Wars is a series where people can lift other people with their mind. Like seriously, why do you still try?
@spoofoflife For me, it's hard to say for certain (different weapons have different applications, there is no one weapon for every situation) but the Turbolaser ranks in among the highest for me. Absurdly high yield (going into the teratons for the heavier variants) but leaves a deceptively small blast, which makes it good for avoiding collateral damage.
Basically it's like the Yamatto cannon from Starcraft only far more refined, concentrated, and efficient.
@Perion i trust none of the star wars numbers because they did not even try to be realistic, according to George lucas a single laser on a tie fighter has enough energy to destabilize a planet, it was also calculated that in order for a star destroyer to turn on its engine and fire a single turbo laser it would have to be half filled with fuel grade cobalt, then be shut off again.... yeah...
@Tzimisce00 Uh no, a TIE Fighter has the equivalent of kiloton level nuclear energy every time it fires, that's nowhere near enough to destabilize a planet. The ships are powered by "Hypermatter" at extremely high densities and may even utilize extra-dimensional storage methods, giving them far more endurance than one might think for a ship that annihilates tens of thousands of tons of matter per second.
The figures are canon, you can't throw them out just because you don't like them.
@spoofoflife. The railgun turrets from BSG as a kid I had a fascination with battleships. I love the idea that a battlestar is a combination of a carrier, ballistic missile sub, and battleship.
@Perion please the shields the trek vessels have would withstand anything the star destroyers have two quantum torpedoes and goodbye star destroyer considering they have minor deflector shields one phaser blast and two quantums not to mention the enterprise was much faster in combat than a star destroyer
@charlesyazell21 You clearly don't know the canon figures of the respective series, a Photon torpedo carries a yield of roughly 24 megatons at best, Quantum Torpedoes are no more than twice that yield. Star Destroyers can withstand and dish out the equivilent of hundreds of millions of megatons per second. Enterprise may be more agile than a Star Destroyer (it's also allot smaller), but it's sublight acceleration is actually less than half that of an ISD.
If the empire could lose a war to a rebellion allied with teddy bears then i'm pretty sure the colonial fleet could beat them too, maybe not in conventional ship to ship warfare against all those 12 year old imagination super weapons/shields that the empire apparently has, but nevertheless it's possible. I'll take a semi-realistic colonial fleet over a completely made up and based on bullshit empire anyday.
@eaglesguy2036 Hesitant to reply to this since it's clearly based on personal bias (IE hate of star wars) rather than anything subjective, but one thing I always found amusing/eyerolling about detractors is mentioning the Battle of Endor as if it somehow invalidates all other demonstrations of Imperial Badassery, Even George Lucas himself will tell you that the Ewoks did not defeat the Empire, the fact that they were able to do what little they did speaks more about the Ewoks than the Empire.
@eaglesguy2036 "Semi-realistic" is synonymous with "Hoplessly primitive" The Ewoks would have never been able to fight a war with the Empire (for a vast number of reasons) let alone win one, the only reason the Bunker was destroyed was because of the Rebels, who have technological parity with the Empire. The only reason THAT made any difference was because Luke redeemed Vader. Which in the end is all it comes down to. The Empire lost because Vader killed Palpatine and Luke refused to turn.
Ok ok ok... Your probably going to disagree with me on THIS one too, but if you could detonate something that could interfere with the TIE fighter's ion engine ion absorption and feed system, couldn't you render their fighters inert and dead in the water?
@spoofoflife hope you dont mind me jumping in here, just an intersting thought, I suppose that you COULD interfere with the ion absorbtion system, but that would require somthing to the effect of an EMP, which as I understand there were precautions when TIEs are built. I could also argue that you could stop the absorber but to stop the feed would be like trying to unhook a AA battery with 20 layers of ducktape over it so, that or stoping a engine full of gas.
@Perion same effect, diffrent dynamics. For example if I drop a marble on a trampoline and drop a bounceing ball, both will bounce for diffrent reasons, as such a EMP pulse would still, therotically be able jam up a TIE, under the right conditions. PS I am with you on the ewok thing, I still think the empire shoulda wouped the rebbles sorry hides, THEY HAD THRAWN.
@aiwalk Thrawn wasn't there, and the Ewoks mostly just served as a minor, but critical, distraction. Besides again it was Luke's refusal to turn to the dark side along with Vader's redemption that caused the force to swing in the Rebels favour. Had luke turned the Empire would have done just that. An EMP of sufficient power COULD theoretically jam up a TIE, but pretty much anyone who is capable of putting that much energy into an EMP would likely have some analogue to an Ion Cannon anyhow.
@Perion accually dispite the face thrawn wasent there he was a part of the empie and if u read "Choices Of One" he was involved in the setting up of the station, the emperor was an idiot tho. As far as your EMP power theroy there is another option, using Interdictor grav well style, with the same amount of energy used to generate the feild you could make a, albit smaller, feild with a EMP effect, or a pulse
@aiwalk Yeah but Interdictor grav wells are vastly beyond Colonial or Cylon technologies, which is the entire point. Problem with the Emperor isn't that he's an idiot, he just has different priorities, He's a Sith lord first and Emperor only by extension of that. He bet the farm to turn luke to the Dark Side, if it meant sacrificing the entire Empire he would do it in a heartbeat. Essentially, Thrawn was more loyal to the Empire than the Emperor himself.
@Perion cant argue with that logic on the emporor. and I completely 4got about the BSG side lol, I was just lookin for ways 2 stop a TIEs, I dono, cylons can make robots close to immortal, so they might b capable of creating a feild like that
@aiwalk Having an energy source that takes a long time to deplete and having something that dumps a crapton of power are very different things. For example, say I can fill a glass of milk by 30ml a second, and have a bag that contains about 1.30 litres, (I'm Canadian so bear with me.) The "energy" I have is 1.30 litres but the power is only 30ml a second, even if I had a magical bottomless bag, I would still only be able to pour it at 30ml a second. Infinite Energy does not equal Infinite Power.
@Perion (im canadian 2, NB to b exact, HURRA CANADA) I can see your logic, im not saying it would b perfect but i debataably say that the cylons may have been able to jury-rig somthing, the kinda stuff they already can do it very power costly and they manage to maintain it through several means, I know the Empire probs could.
@aiwalk Problem is Tilium reactors can only produce energy on the order of E=mc2 at best, Hypermatter and Matter/antimatter reactors are in that same boat but the fun thing about Hypermatter is the fact that you can store the stuff extra-dimensionally, allowing you to store 144,000,000 tons of fuel for the price of 10,000 tons. Especially since Hypermatter Reactors are known to be capable of annihilating 40,000 tons per second or more depending on the size, Generating absurd levels of power.
@aiwalk I don't know if even the writers have really come up with a full explanation for that, I know that it is possible to exit hyperspace directly into the orbit of a planet, but not in atmosphere, it IS possible to enter hyperspace rather close to a planet, within it's gravity well in fact, but it takes longer for the Navicomp to compensate, otherwise you can tear your Hyperdrive apart. With an unstable gravity well like that created by an Interdictor the Navicomp cannot compensate at all.
@Perion thank you, that helps alot, (hope u dont mind me asking, im better with theroy of use then the science behind it) when ur talkin bout hypermatter reactors is that talkin bout contaning or generating several million amounts of power. also (slightly off subject) do u kno where the underside turbolasers on a star destroyer r, i cant find em
@aiwalk It annihilates tens of thousands of tons of fuel per second, which equates to around 1/30th or so the power of our sun, give or take. The Executor's shields alone are equal in power to our sun. Star Destroyers have numerous light and medium turbolasers dotted along the underside, but no heavies which are among the only real visible ones on the shooting model. The only visible mediums are the quad and tri guns situated along the brim trenches and axial defense turrets.
@aiwalk i can, the gravity wells of an interdictor produce an area of space that the emergency shut offs on the ships warp drives pick up as mass (detectable thorugh gravitational fields, in star wars subspace is a more concise version of real space, objects still exist and you can collide into them, thus they are set to exit if the drive picks up a gravity well AKA matter, and like previously said the interdictor creates that well. you can warp with the safety off but that's dangerous.
@Tzimisce00 ok so, in essance, you r saying they have are more primitive in nature, however your theory has 1 problem, if its physical subspace then anything without sheilds would have haul peirces from clusters of space dust
@spoofoflife It's the IF part that's the primary factor here, and the fact of the matter is that neither the colonials nor the cylons have nothing in their arsenal that could accomplish that.
@DisturbedRenegade we like the Imperials cause they have better tech andthey rnt racist they r just a better version of the dominion and the confederacy of Starcraft 1 and 2 and well in real life star wars would kick battle star galacticas ass because in star wars they have heaps better tech and they also have shields(deflector Shields) and and the imperial fleet is 10 000 times bigger then battle star galacticas miniscule fleet
@eternalGEN3SIS. The two largest and most powerful battleship ever built were the Yamota and her sister Musashi. Both were sunk by carrier based aircraft. The Carriers stayed outside the gunnery range of the two IJN superbattleships and launched drive bombers and torpedo planes. A fight between a ISD and the BSG would end the same way. The BSG stays out of the ISD weapons reach and sends her fighters to destory the ISD. BSG wins.
@DisturbedRenegade This is true. Since the Empire is renown for having terrible fighter pilots, I think the A-Team squadron from BSG could clear a path for some Raptors to drop some tactical nukes on an ISD, and it'd probably end exactly like you said. Good thinking, and props on the historical reference *fist-bump*
@eternalGEN3SIS The ISD wouldn't likely notice the Tactical nukes hitting the shields, you clearly have no idea how powerful ISDs really are. Also what proof do you have that TIE's have Terrible pilots?
Battlestar Galactica Tactical nukes range from 75 kilotons to one megaton, a TIE Fighter strafing run carries that same level of energy on the low end, and a Squadron of TIEs carry it on the high end. Fighters are useless against Star Wars capital ships while their shields are up.
@Perion.I used to be a starwars fan for the dogfights and naval battles and read everything about the two. I don’t know where you are getting your data from, but I would very much like to know if you care to enlighten me. I hope you are not simply making up figures to suit your needs because that would be rather sad. For the moment I will give you the benefit of the doubt on the matter. Also in the X-wing Sires Rouge Squadron destroys an ISD with a volley of torpedoes. I think a nuke would work.
@DisturbedRenegade in the X-Wing series Rogue Squadron destroys an ISD with a MASSIVE volley of torpedoes of undetermined yield, since they were using slave controlled freighters linked to the torpedoes.
The Concussion Missiles Jango Fett used against Obi-Wan were 191 Megatons a piece. The Seismic Charges he released were 12,000 megatons. Anti-capital ship bombs and torpedoes are known to be well into the gigatons and perhaps, even into the teratons.
@eternalGEN3SIS Since Star Wars capital ships are used to throwing around and taking energies equivalent to hundreds of millions of BSG tactical nukes every second, for half an hour straight, before losing shields. As well as dishing it out in kind. Cylon Strategic nukes decimate entire fleets of Battlestars in dock, a single Medium Turbolaser shot at 1% power will vapourize every Colonial/Cylon ship in it's path.
Historical references are meaningless when deflector shields enter the equation.
@DisturbedRenegade Irrelevant, ISD weapons range is measured in light minutes, for the BSG to stay out of that range they would have to be on the other side of the system, They wouldn't know where the TIE fighters are since they don't show up on DRADIS, and once the Imperial ECM goes up the BSG is completely blind, deaf, mute and crippled (since the ECM also affects engine performance.) Easy pickings.
@Perion. You are mistaking on so many levels it is going to take me weeks to set you straight, where to begin. How about that an ISD is a battleship and a BSG is a carrier. So pay attention Nov. 12th 1940 the British Royal Navy launched an attack against the Fascist Italian fleet in harbor at the battle of Taranto. They inflict massive damage. The Japanese took notes and on Dec. 7th 1941 attacked the U.S Pacific Fleet at anchor at Pearl Harbor.
@DisturbedRenegade Again using historical precedents break down and no longer apply once Deflector shields enter into the equasion. I know all about those battles you are talking about. The problem is that Shielded ships can absorb enemy fire to the point of making fighters and bombers all but useless while they are up, and indeed in Star Wars fighters can only damage capital ships once their shields are down.
@Perion Three days later Dec. 10th 1941 the British Royal Navy has deployed the Battleship Prince of Wales and the Battlecrusier Repulse to defend British holdings in the Pacific. They are both sunk by land based bombers of the IJA. The Enterprise sinks Yamota and the Essex, Intrepid, and Franklin sink her sister. Carriers are better warships than battleships which is why no navy in the world still uses them. Carriers can launch aircraft from greater ranges than any naval gun.
Because lasers are beams of light they do travel at the speed of light, however there range is nowhere near as far as artillery fire be it land based or naval fire. Also the carrier does not even need be out of range. Since we are dealing with space and not real naval battles a Battlestar could use a nearby planet to shield it from return fire launch her Vipers.
@Perion. I'm amending a pair of typos electronic should be electromagnetic and I misspelled series in another post please disregard these errors. Thanks you.
@DisturbedRenegade Lasers in star wars are not L.A.S.E.R.s we see them move slower than light, interact with one another and even flak burst. The Galactica, like her Vipers, lack inertial dampeners and is thus limited to accelerations in the single digits. Star Destroyers can circumnavigate planets from a dead stop in Seconds to minutes. Which requires Acceleration in the quadruple digits, a Star Destroyer could easily close the distance on a Battlestar and be on top of it in moments.
@Perion@Perion Yes Galactica lacks inertial dampeners, beam weapons, energy shields, and almost all sci-fi tech except for FTLs. BSG is mostly hard sci-fi. These things do not exist and we have no idea how to build them in the real world. FTL is of course in that category as well, but you kind of have to have it because the vastness of space. However there is a mathematic formula that could give us FTLs. It was on Sci Fi science with Dr Michio Kaku who is of course a genius.
@Perion. Beam weapons whether they move at light speed or near light speed have the same problem. They limit your tactics to pure pursuit meaning you have to train your weapons on a target to get a kill. A solid projectile like a 20mm allows you more flexibility in your tactics by allowing for lead pursuit of a target. Place the gun sight were the target will be and fire. The enemy flies into the rounds. "THAT'S A KILL."
@DisturbedRenegade Actually Beam weapons and weapons that move at light speed can still do that, just at much longer ranges (light seconds) A nifty trick of Fighter blasters is that they can fire off axis, especially when they get a lock. The bolts do NOT travel at light speed, (at least right away, but given that capital ship heavy guns have light minute ranges suggests they may accelerate) though there is some debate as to whether or not there is an invisible damaging component that does.
@Perion. What do you mean right away? You realize light speed is a constant. Light travels at the same rate all the time. You may be able to play with some laws of physics, but there is no way around that one.
@DisturbedRenegade Of course, but the particle bolt could theoretically accelerate to extremely high fractions of C to the point where the fact that they aren't quite at C is academic, how exactly it would accelerate after leaving a launch mechanism would be a nifty trick though (potentially In the realm of clarke's 3rd law.). More likely the Light minute range is for unsuspecting vessels and the Imperials cause so much sensor jamming that they don't even see the bolts coming let alone the ship.
@Perion. It is a little hard to miss that missive green beam of light comming at you. A Rebel pilot would need to be blind not to see it. Also why the hell do you like the Imperials? They are modeled after Soviets/Facist/and Nazis. I have to ask you the same question everyone keep on asking me. "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?"
@DisturbedRenegade Depends on the angle of approach. Whoever said I like them? I like their tech, their stuff looks cool and sounds cool, they're also enormously powerful. Also like the Soviets/Facists/and Nazis, it's more the people in the high command that are evil rather than the individual rank and file. I do NOT like Palpatine for example, and agree that he had to go. But as the Clone War era republic showed, Imperial like stuff can be pretty awesome when led by the non-morally bankrupt.
@DisturbedRenegade Lightspeed in a vacuum is constant, lightspeed through different mediums (air, water, etc) is not constant, it is slower depending on the refractive index of the medium.
@Perion Refrence please: What movie / book are Star Destroyers observed 'circumnavigating planets from a dead stop in Seconds to minutes'? In the movies they are seen moving like the gigantic slow-pokes they look like.
@KaneinEncanto Return of the Jedi and Attack of the Clones, The Imperial fleet circumnavigates Endor in minutes while in Attack of the clones The fleet has gotten several planetary diameters of Geonosis in seconds. Complete Cross Sections gives the linear acceleration of an Acclamator at 3500 Gs while the Venator Class Star Destroyer is slightly slower at 3000, it's not unreasonable to assume the Imperator/Imperial class is within an order of magnitude of these two.
@Perion. Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you I've been swamped with work. Now about jamming there are two ways to go about jamming an enemy's radar the first is white noise which works on all frequencies but affects some more than others and can be cut through. The other type is jamming the frequencies an enemy uses. This requires SIGINT. In BSG the Cylons have the Colonial frequencies because of Six and can therefore go about jamming them. The Imperial ECM would be ineffective.
@DisturbedRenegade That's not how Imperial ECM works, those two ways you mentioned are how modern ECM works, but not how it works in Star Wars which is vastly more advanced, your logic is flawed.
@DisturbedRenegade Very little exactly is known about Star Wars jamming technology, other than the fact that they can jam sensors so badly that they can't even tell if the shields of the Death Star are up or not, but leave them otherwise unaffected, even without any prior spies etc zeroing in on their frequencies. On top of that they create such massive distortions to the fabric of space as to reduce engine performance by as much as 99.7% Prett sure I've mentioned that last bit before though.
@Perion. That seems rather vague almost like they cannot be bothered to do a little research. Blanket jamming would have to cover so many frequencies that it could never be effective. This is more or less what white noise is. Fighter use radar in set to the I/J band but even than there are so many frequencies on that band that you really need the specifics. While I consider the FA/22A a overall waste of money I do acknowledge that the AESA radar to be a step forwards.
@Perion The AESA radar’s low probability of intercept combined with a high resistance to jamming due to the radar changing it operating frequency with every pulse it makes the job of SIGINT very difficult. There has always existed a race between technological advances and their respected counters. At the moment AESA radar is winning over jamming technology, but there will surely be counters developed for it. Victory in war is driven by evolution adapt or die.
@DisturbedRenegade Again you are bringing the principles of too many real world technologies while talking about a civilization that can go from one end of the galaxy to the other in hours to days. Can build moon sized battle stations in months, have anti-grav, energy weapons that can blow up planets, and have deflector shields more powerful than the sun. I doubt Imperial ECM has any more in common with modern ECM than Turbolasers have in common with an 18 inch gun.
@eternalGEN3SIS Star Wars, Star Trek and Stargate do understand spacial physics, they just choose to "ignore" them with "Navigational Gyros" and "Stabilizers" etc, in fact pretty much any series that involves Inertial Dampeners or Acceleration Compensators have that ability. While shows that don't have such technology are slaves to newton and limited to about a dozen Gs sustained acceleration/maneuverability.
Also Babylon 5 did that 10 years before Neo Battlestar Galactica
@Perion Isn't that a weakness though? If I'm being traced by a fighter, I'd like to be able to spin on a dime and shoot him without having to take a long arc to get around him. Inertial Dampeners are a great thing to be sure, but those "navigational gyros" seem like a horrible handicap in a dogfight.
@eternalGEN3SIS Not really, because even in that long arc you can take evasive action, when spinning around you are effectively moving in a straight, predictable line, becoming a sitting duck.
@eternalGEN3SIS I know for a fact (from video game simulations, not reality I know but more realistic than hollywood choreography that's for certain.)
That Star Wars style flight is VASTLY superior to BSG/B5 style flight. It's easier to control and so many of those tricks that they do in BSG/B5 (and this video) leave them wide open to get splashed. Sure there are things you can do that you can't with Stablizers on, but unless you have no one shooting at you, you're better off not bothering.
If there's ever a part 2, there should definitely be X-Wings and Cylons, and maybe even some rapid-fire ship-to-ship fights like SW3 and the new BSG series.
then fucking sdf-1, battle frontier, battle galaxy, megaroad and wall-e arrive and fuck the crap out of the empire.
Nekito16 1 day ago
Of all the vs. star wars and battlestar are closest in tech if you get rid of the pure fraken magic that goes with the star wars universe and use more realistic weapon stats it would be one hell of a battle and I don't think the the star destroyers would be able to fly magestically by with no damage. remember a battlestar can take a nuclear impact in contact with the hull and are pretty much one big weopons platform. Just saying the contest wont be as on sided as you might think.
watron12 3 days ago
@watron12 at 51 seconds a battlestar owns a destroyer
charlesyazell21 3 days ago
@watron12 Actually of all the vs. Star Wars and Warhammer 40,000 are closest in tech.
Battlestars can take only low level nuclear impacts, from Class D Tactical warheads (70 kilotons - 1 Megaton) Star Destroyers on the other hand are known to dish out and take 100-800 Teratons of fire every second for half an hour straight before their shields go down. It would actually be far more one sided as you might think.
Perion 1 day ago
Who won????
Darkdumdum123 4 days ago
@Darkdumdum123 The Battlestars were overwhelmed by the Imperial forces and were forced to retreat.
ihatefurrys 4 days ago
Though the camera work is is kinda like new BSG.
ZeroDude600 1 week ago
The maker of this video clip deserves a medal.
MyNinoslav 2 weeks ago
Who ever made this great job!
TheXxAfflictionxX 2 weeks ago
Why the Vipers didn´t use their missels´ ? They just used their Laser guns.
Nolliminator 2 weeks ago
Why werent the BSG ships firing their main cannons? Dude.
ImportedBox 2 weeks ago
@ImportedBox :51 :55 battlestar owning destroyer in the back ground missed it the first time
charlesyazell21 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
a awesome movie, but who would win?
Nolliminator 2 weeks ago
@Nolliminator what question ;) star wars of course ;)
freeway996 2 weeks ago
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Nolliminator 2 weeks ago
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@freeway996 that´s impossible, cause the GALACTICA had never lose a battle.
And George Lucas fracking ( a BSG synonym for fucking) plagiarism have no chance to win versus the original!!!
Nolliminator 2 weeks ago
The star destroyers shield would fail within a few min you think all those shots wouldn't break those shields we are talking yet again 200 megatons a shot just with 5 shots we are talking 1 billion megatons of damage just because the shields don't fail the force of the impact would rip the hull apart take for example the asteroid destroying the star destroyer the force alone ripped it apart
charlesyazell21 3 weeks ago
@ Perion
I think they are good against the Empire as long as they can hit a 2 meter ray shielded exhaust port with the assistance of a targeting computer.
DaGiantLaserCanon 3 weeks ago
Also it should be noted that the main reason TIE Fighters lack shields is because fighter weapons in Star Wars are usually powerful enough to blow through fighter shielding anyhow (look at how fast X-Wings and Y-Wings go down in the films) So the Empire figured it would be more worthwhile to save the reactor power to be put into engines and weapons instead. Up against BSG where they use considerably weaker weapons and engines, there would be no reason to make such a trade-off.
Perion 3 weeks ago
@Perion you just dont quit do you well even if the galactica couldnt do it a gualld hatack could vanquish a star destroyer within minutes each weapon firing with 200 megatons of force and we are talking at least 30 cannons nt to mention the death gliders that could destroy the tie fighters outnumbered easy 3 to 1 gu alld mothership ftw oh not to mention the earlie models could withstand two multi megaton nukes enhanced wth naquida like they were nothing
charlesyazell21 3 weeks ago
@charlesyazell21 While Stargate is far more powerful than Galactica or Star Trek, you still don't realize just how powerful Star Wars is.
Yet again the Star Destroyer wouldn't even feel it, you have to get into the Gigatons for them to even notice.
An Acclamator, which isn't even a dedicated warship, has 200,000 Megatons per gun, along 12 guns, it's shields are also far stronger, which makes sense considering it's primarily a Dropship, an ISD is 300x more powerful.
Perion 3 weeks ago
As for the Death Gliders, while they have Inertial Dampenersm are nowhere near as fast or as maneuverable as TIE Fighters. Their max speed is 12,000 kph (though amusingly their acceleration is unknown). TIE Fighters have no max speed in space, while they'll never reach 299,792,458 meters per second they will never stop accelerating towards it if they want to. Though their acceleration will progressively decrease the closer they get. F-302s would also get torn to shreds by TIEs.
Perion 3 weeks ago
@Perion incase you arent familiar naquida increases the nukes power by 100x say 5 megaton warhead we are talking two 500 megaton warheads that didnt even phase the hatack so yea not saying it wouldnt take damage but the star destroyer would loose this one
charlesyazell21 3 weeks ago
@charlesyazell21 Considering a Star Destroyer can dish out literally millions of times that firepower a second, no, I'm sorry but Star Destroyer still wins.
If you want a race that can beat the Empire, try the Daleks, the Xeelee, the Culture, the Anti-Spirals, the Sayains etc.
A good barometer is if a race is incapable of Petaton level firepower in conventional ship arsenals then they won't be any sort of threat to the Empire.
Perion 3 weeks ago
I assumed the Colonials might have a better shot against the Imperials, could be wrong. It's amazing to see how those Tie Bombers literally tore those battlestars to shreds, have to look into that. The Vipers performed a whole lot better than the average Tie Fighter but in this scenario, it's a lot different. Although I do enjoy this mini film, have some serious questions about the outcome of the battle.
MsGundamace 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@MsGundamace Vipers lack inertial dampeners/acceleration compensators, and so are limited in maneuverability and acceleration to human G tollerances, TIE Fighters have no such limitation and are known to be capable of pulling thousands of Gs. Not to mention the firepower of a TIE Fighter is pretty obscene by Battlestar Galactica standards.
Perion 3 weeks ago
@Perion ROFLMAO! TIE Fighters pulling thousands of G's? I think you'd need to be jumping to lightspeed without inertial dampeners to do that. Show me a scene from one of the movies where a TIE fighter shows even a fraction of that kind of manuverability... the Vipers would fly circles around TIE Fighters, in BSG we SEE them flip end over end in a second or two and fly off on a new heading (or continue the same way to strafe a target)
KaneinEncanto 3 weeks ago
@KaneinEncanto While no scenes directly show that acceleration, we are shown several sequences where such acceleration MUST exist, and the novelization describes this along with several of the books, such as "Death Star" and "Complete Cross Sections". Two examples are in ANH, the first is when the X-Wings make a trip from Yavin IV to the Death Star more than 300,000 km away, in a timeframe of around 5 minutes (They were on a clock before they even took off), this requires ~5000g average accel
Perion 3 weeks ago
@KaneinEncanto Fliping end over end is NOT a useful technique, in fact it's downright suicidal as it means you relinquish your ability to change your vector while an enemy is on your tail, which means, even if it's for only a second or two, you're dead. Also even if you survive long enough to start on a new heading you have to fight your own inertia, it's easier to bank (which means you are turning on multiple axis) and use your inertia instead, which looks allot like atmospheric flight.
Perion 3 weeks ago
While obviously I have no real life experience with that sort of thing, I have played enough space flight simulators to know that the person who can fly in space in the traditional Star Wars/Star Trek/Original Battlestar Galactica method actually has an advantage over the Babylon 5/Neo Battlestar Galactica method, and I'll take a simulator over Hollywood choreography any day of the week.
Perion 3 weeks ago
@Perion "Fliping end over end is NOT a useful technique" It depends on the situation, if as in the opening minute or so of this video, the fighters are moving at each other relatively head-on, the Vipers should pass the TIE fighters then perform the flip. Their guns would be pointed at the TIEs while the TIEs would still be banking around. The manuver would not be performed with an enemy on your tail.
KaneinEncanto 3 weeks ago
@KaneinEncanto Considering realistically there wouldn't be any Vipers left after the initial pass it's a moot point. Even assuming a few Vipers survived, they would now have to try and lead targets with unknown and truly frightening capabilities. All the while relinquishing their ability to maneuver as they effectively reduce themselves to being glorified turrets.
Perion 3 weeks ago
Also, it's a helluva lot harder trying to hit a target that is flying across you than one that's moving towards or away.
Perion 3 weeks ago
@KaneinEncanto During the Battle of Yavin and the Battle of Endor, there was heavy jamming coming from the Death Star or the Communications ship, the ANH novelization states that the distortions are so intense as to reduce engine performance down to 0.3 in and around the Death Star trench, the maneuverability and acceleration observed during the battle of yavin is only 0.3% that of what these fighters can do in open space.
Perion 3 weeks ago
Since the Communications Ship at endor jammed them so badly that they couldn't even tell if the DS2's shields were up or not, it can be presumed that they had similar problems there as well. Considering Vipers have human G tolerances in their performance levels then they would lose control and drift through space the moment they entered the jamming field, just like they did when the Cylons hacked their systems only this time, it has nothing to do with their OS/Computers.
Perion 3 weeks ago
best space battle!
fishinaterpokemaster 3 weeks ago
Battlestar Galactica & Star Wars WHY HAVE YOU NO SHIELDS!
MrSieish 3 weeks ago
@MrSieish Star Wars have shields, so did the original Battlestar Galactica, it's only neo galactica that doesn't.
Perion 3 weeks ago
@Perion Babylon 5 has shields...
MrSieish 3 weeks ago
@MrSieish depends on your definition of shields, but even then only the Vorlons have them.
Perion 3 weeks ago
Perion is correct in what he is saying, numerous sources including the mivies suggest stardestroyers can maintain firepower in the range of 10^16mW, fielding multi-gigaton and multi-teraton DET weaponry. This is far more powerful than ST or BSG.
steelpulse666 1 month ago
all i have to say is that i didnt see any of the battlestars shoot at all with the massive amount of weapons they have i mean really your not thinking of the fact that battlestars have nukes which granted dont do as much damage in space as they do on a planet but still battlestars have at least 12 missile battery each one launching a nuke yea goodbye star destroyers
charlesyazell21 1 month ago
@charlesyazell21 Oh I am thinking of the Nukes, and they are 1 megaton at best, nowhere near the yield of a Photon torpedo, so yeah nothing in either The Federation, or THe 12 colonies/Cylon fleets would stand a chance against a Star Destroyer. Hell they could all team up and commit their entire combined militaries to the task and still wouldn't be a threat.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion were are you getting all these numbers from ?
charlesyazell21 1 month ago
@charlesyazell21 Multiple sources, With Star Trek I'll admit I was being generous using their non-canon technical manuals for their yield, on screen the Torpedoes show a firepower roughly on par with Battlestar tactical nukes. Battlestar Galactica are on screen stated to use Class D Warheads, in real life, Class D Warheads vary anywhere from 70 Kilotons to 1 megaton. Cylons have been shown using 50 megaton Strategic Nukes, but only when attacking planets and shipyards.
Perion 4 weeks ago
@Perion hmm did you see what i said about how weak the shield gen on star destroyers are even at one megaton they wouldnt hold up to an onslaught of 12 nukes
charlesyazell21 4 weeks ago
@charlesyazell21 The Shields are extremely strong on Star Destroyers, and you can't target the shield generators since they are deep inside the ship itself, meanwhile the shield projectors make up the final layer of the hull armour. The common misconception that the two globes on the top of the ship are shield generators is just that, a misconception. They are actually ComScan globes, which makes sense as they resemble the radomes used on modern warships.
Perion 4 weeks ago
@charlesyazell21 The misconception comes from a scene in return of the jedi where a Pair of A-Wings destroy one of these globes as the shields are collapsing, leading many to the mistaken conclusion that the globes destruction brought down the shields rather than the other way around. In reality the bombardment from Ackbar and the other capital ships in the rebel fleet caused the bridge shields to collapse. Not the A-Wings.
Perion 4 weeks ago
@Perion wikipedia says the globes are infact the shield projectors and what about the final star wars battle an a wing was able to just fly thru the bridge and bring it down that right there throws out your whole nuke idea of nukes not having any effect thats from the movie not a game so its legit
charlesyazell21 4 weeks ago
@charlesyazell21 Wikipedia is a public site that anyone can edit, so anything there is to be taken with a grain of salt and not at face value. The "Inside the world of star wars" books as well as Industrial Light and Magic blueprints for the Star Destroyer models used for the film label them as sensors, interviews with the special effects teams and refer to them as such during the making of ROTJ.
Perion 4 weeks ago
@Perion you have no proof that the shields were collapsing the other ships had not even had a chance to start firing yet
charlesyazell21 4 weeks ago
@charlesyazell21 Actually I do, Star Wars: Complete Locations page 170 "At Endor, pounded mercilessly by the capital ships of the Rebel Alliance flotilla, the ship's shields -Equivalent to the total power of a medium star- fail. At that moment, the Rebels are able to strafe the command tower - and with the Executor's navigation suite in ruins and defensive guns losing coordination, a careening A-wing destroys the bridge." Written with ILM being involved, and approved by the production designer.
Perion 4 weeks ago
@Perion and i think that if george lucus didnt want the a wings to bring it down he would not have put it in the movie so stop spamming your made up facts the facts are right in the movie
charlesyazell21 4 weeks ago
@charlesyazell21 Only one A-Wing brought down the Executor, the others just took out the globes, I have proof from ILM blueprints, interviews and books, all you have is your mistaken interpretation of the film, non-canon game mechanics, and Wikipedia which is not a valid source in and of itself. Keep in mind that the "Shield Generator/Sensor Globe" debate is common in the Star Wars community, however Lucasfilm is quite clear on them being sensors.
Perion 4 weeks ago
@Perion i played x wing vs tie fighter once and star destroyers were easy to kill once you destroyed the shield gens which didnt take long at all with a little x wing imagin this if you will grant me that battlestar jumps in and targets the shield gens with twelve nukes after two nukes to each one shields are gone then you have the rest of the nukes focused on the bridge im no super expert on either series but i know that it mabey took 3 or four missles from my x wing
charlesyazell21 1 month ago
@charlesyazell21 I've played F-15 Strike Eagle II, and in that game, an F-15 can take a half-dozen direct hits from SAM's before it goes down (in reality, one proximity hit will kill it easily). Can we agree that it's silly to use computer gameplay as a basis for technological assessments? Besides, the folks at lucasarts have gone on record saying that game mechanics are explicitly non-canon.
Perion 4 weeks ago
@Perion lame well there goes that plan what if a viper flew inside the fighter bay of the star destroyer and was armed with nukes cant really stop that because once you are inside the sd shield array nothing they can do really especialy if they have plenty of cover for the turbo lasers to shoot at
charlesyazell21 4 weeks ago
@charlesyazell21 Wouldn't work either, 1 That area of the ship has heavy anti-fighter coverage, so the Viper would never get anywhere near that close, 2. You wouldn't be inside the shield array since it hugs the hull rather tightly. 3. even if the ISD didn't have a hull hugging shield it would still be impossible since ISDs use both Ray and Particle shields, the Viper would go splat like a bug on a wind-shield. 4 That's not even taking into account the Jammers.
Perion 4 weeks ago
@Perion to destroy the generators then i would targt the bridge few min later done and the battlestar has one hell of a hull as far as the federation in the early series the first encounters with the romulans were fought with nukes then they stopped using them too much collateral damage i think but they are way more powerfull than photon or quantum torpedoes the torpedoes work like bunker busters getting inside the ship and then detonating thats why they are so strong
charlesyazell21 1 month ago
G-canon: is what you see in the movies or read in the novels. %99.9 of what Mr. Perion states is from C-canon. G-Canon overrides the C-canon. This means most of Perion numbers and data does not matter or exists. So those "gigaton lasers" are really kiloton lasers or lower by movie standards.
Sorry to interrupt your brainwashing of the youtube community, Perion....
QuantumNova 1 month ago
More spamming of invalid numbers by Perion?! It just never ends. No matter how much he spams it will never make any sense to anyone with a logical brain. 12,000 gigatons make a hand grenade explosion? Typical starwars BS. Okay, but I don't wanna be a part of any retarded universe like that.
More retarded numbers plz. Drown the people in more false information Perion. Make them believe the retardation by spamming them to death with lower C-canon data that's not used by Starwars movies.
QuantumNova 1 month ago
the FTL dives in BSG would not be affected by gravity wells, they don't work in the same manner. star wars warp causes a ship to slip into subspace sort of a more concise space, the faster than light drive literally propels a ship to a location at the speed of light, which according to Einstein would cause time to stop for those moving at FTL. So moving that fast you would blink out of reality and simultaneously blinking back into reality in another location while never ceasing to exist.
Tzimisce00 1 month ago
@Tzimisce00 Hyperspace not Subspace, you are confusing Star Wars Hyperdrive with Star Trek Slipstream.
Perion 1 month ago
dont look underneath my comment there is a bunch of raging nerds
bobyjoeyy 1 month ago
...Wait, Where the Frak is Starbuck when you Need Her?!
UniverseSalvation 1 month ago
Battlestar Galactica. All The Way.
UniverseSalvation 1 month ago
This is going to start a nerd war.XD
eamadagan 1 month ago
I don't like how the Battlestars got their asses kicked. I am sure that the two forces would have had a equal chance of winning. I am guessing that the Battlestar that survived was the Galatica. Still, nice video.
TheBlackSkimmer 1 month ago
@TheBlackSkimmer Actually this video was quite generous to the Battlestars and Vipers.
Perion 1 month ago
Oh my god, I watched this video a year ago and I come back and Perion still to this day is trying to convince everyone about made-up scientific figures. Remember, Star Wars is a series where people can lift other people with their mind. Like seriously, why do you still try?
FourArmies 1 month ago
@FourArmies It's called a hobby, and canon figures are canon figures.
Perion 1 month ago
Theres To Many of Them!
MrWirelessFeet 1 month ago
@Perion maybe they would lose but it would be fun to see anyways bread vidio
ghullieman 1 month ago
cool
hrd2fd 1 month ago
u should make more
TheOjitnom 1 month ago
@Perion
@DisturbedRenegade
@aiwalk
What is your favorite weapon from a Sci-fi?
spoofoflife 1 month ago
@spoofoflife For me, it's hard to say for certain (different weapons have different applications, there is no one weapon for every situation) but the Turbolaser ranks in among the highest for me. Absurdly high yield (going into the teratons for the heavier variants) but leaves a deceptively small blast, which makes it good for avoiding collateral damage.
Basically it's like the Yamatto cannon from Starcraft only far more refined, concentrated, and efficient.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion i trust none of the star wars numbers because they did not even try to be realistic, according to George lucas a single laser on a tie fighter has enough energy to destabilize a planet, it was also calculated that in order for a star destroyer to turn on its engine and fire a single turbo laser it would have to be half filled with fuel grade cobalt, then be shut off again.... yeah...
Tzimisce00 1 month ago
@Tzimisce00 Uh no, a TIE Fighter has the equivalent of kiloton level nuclear energy every time it fires, that's nowhere near enough to destabilize a planet. The ships are powered by "Hypermatter" at extremely high densities and may even utilize extra-dimensional storage methods, giving them far more endurance than one might think for a ship that annihilates tens of thousands of tons of matter per second.
The figures are canon, you can't throw them out just because you don't like them.
Perion 1 month ago
@spoofoflife. The railgun turrets from BSG as a kid I had a fascination with battleships. I love the idea that a battlestar is a combination of a carrier, ballistic missile sub, and battleship.
DisturbedRenegade 1 month ago
Great vid I love it big bag and star trek I think it would be cool to see star trek vs bsg
ghullieman 1 month ago
@ghullieman Trek would likely win vs BSG, but would certainly lose vs Star Wars.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion please the shields the trek vessels have would withstand anything the star destroyers have two quantum torpedoes and goodbye star destroyer considering they have minor deflector shields one phaser blast and two quantums not to mention the enterprise was much faster in combat than a star destroyer
charlesyazell21 1 month ago
@charlesyazell21 You clearly don't know the canon figures of the respective series, a Photon torpedo carries a yield of roughly 24 megatons at best, Quantum Torpedoes are no more than twice that yield. Star Destroyers can withstand and dish out the equivilent of hundreds of millions of megatons per second. Enterprise may be more agile than a Star Destroyer (it's also allot smaller), but it's sublight acceleration is actually less than half that of an ISD.
Perion 1 month ago
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MoterCrozz 1 month ago
If the empire could lose a war to a rebellion allied with teddy bears then i'm pretty sure the colonial fleet could beat them too, maybe not in conventional ship to ship warfare against all those 12 year old imagination super weapons/shields that the empire apparently has, but nevertheless it's possible. I'll take a semi-realistic colonial fleet over a completely made up and based on bullshit empire anyday.
eaglesguy2036 2 months ago
@eaglesguy2036 Hesitant to reply to this since it's clearly based on personal bias (IE hate of star wars) rather than anything subjective, but one thing I always found amusing/eyerolling about detractors is mentioning the Battle of Endor as if it somehow invalidates all other demonstrations of Imperial Badassery, Even George Lucas himself will tell you that the Ewoks did not defeat the Empire, the fact that they were able to do what little they did speaks more about the Ewoks than the Empire.
Perion 1 month ago
@eaglesguy2036 "Semi-realistic" is synonymous with "Hoplessly primitive" The Ewoks would have never been able to fight a war with the Empire (for a vast number of reasons) let alone win one, the only reason the Bunker was destroyed was because of the Rebels, who have technological parity with the Empire. The only reason THAT made any difference was because Luke redeemed Vader. Which in the end is all it comes down to. The Empire lost because Vader killed Palpatine and Luke refused to turn.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion
Ok ok ok... Your probably going to disagree with me on THIS one too, but if you could detonate something that could interfere with the TIE fighter's ion engine ion absorption and feed system, couldn't you render their fighters inert and dead in the water?
spoofoflife 2 months ago
@spoofoflife hope you dont mind me jumping in here, just an intersting thought, I suppose that you COULD interfere with the ion absorbtion system, but that would require somthing to the effect of an EMP, which as I understand there were precautions when TIEs are built. I could also argue that you could stop the absorber but to stop the feed would be like trying to unhook a AA battery with 20 layers of ducktape over it so, that or stoping a engine full of gas.
aiwalk 2 months ago
@aiwalk Ion weapons in Star Wars are effectively super powerful EMP like weaponry, since traditional EMP based weapons are pretty much useless.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion same effect, diffrent dynamics. For example if I drop a marble on a trampoline and drop a bounceing ball, both will bounce for diffrent reasons, as such a EMP pulse would still, therotically be able jam up a TIE, under the right conditions. PS I am with you on the ewok thing, I still think the empire shoulda wouped the rebbles sorry hides, THEY HAD THRAWN.
aiwalk 1 month ago
@aiwalk Thrawn wasn't there, and the Ewoks mostly just served as a minor, but critical, distraction. Besides again it was Luke's refusal to turn to the dark side along with Vader's redemption that caused the force to swing in the Rebels favour. Had luke turned the Empire would have done just that. An EMP of sufficient power COULD theoretically jam up a TIE, but pretty much anyone who is capable of putting that much energy into an EMP would likely have some analogue to an Ion Cannon anyhow.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion accually dispite the face thrawn wasent there he was a part of the empie and if u read "Choices Of One" he was involved in the setting up of the station, the emperor was an idiot tho. As far as your EMP power theroy there is another option, using Interdictor grav well style, with the same amount of energy used to generate the feild you could make a, albit smaller, feild with a EMP effect, or a pulse
aiwalk 1 month ago
@aiwalk Yeah but Interdictor grav wells are vastly beyond Colonial or Cylon technologies, which is the entire point. Problem with the Emperor isn't that he's an idiot, he just has different priorities, He's a Sith lord first and Emperor only by extension of that. He bet the farm to turn luke to the Dark Side, if it meant sacrificing the entire Empire he would do it in a heartbeat. Essentially, Thrawn was more loyal to the Empire than the Emperor himself.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion cant argue with that logic on the emporor. and I completely 4got about the BSG side lol, I was just lookin for ways 2 stop a TIEs, I dono, cylons can make robots close to immortal, so they might b capable of creating a feild like that
aiwalk 1 month ago
@aiwalk Having an energy source that takes a long time to deplete and having something that dumps a crapton of power are very different things. For example, say I can fill a glass of milk by 30ml a second, and have a bag that contains about 1.30 litres, (I'm Canadian so bear with me.) The "energy" I have is 1.30 litres but the power is only 30ml a second, even if I had a magical bottomless bag, I would still only be able to pour it at 30ml a second. Infinite Energy does not equal Infinite Power.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion (im canadian 2, NB to b exact, HURRA CANADA) I can see your logic, im not saying it would b perfect but i debataably say that the cylons may have been able to jury-rig somthing, the kinda stuff they already can do it very power costly and they manage to maintain it through several means, I know the Empire probs could.
aiwalk 1 month ago
@aiwalk Problem is Tilium reactors can only produce energy on the order of E=mc2 at best, Hypermatter and Matter/antimatter reactors are in that same boat but the fun thing about Hypermatter is the fact that you can store the stuff extra-dimensionally, allowing you to store 144,000,000 tons of fuel for the price of 10,000 tons. Especially since Hypermatter Reactors are known to be capable of annihilating 40,000 tons per second or more depending on the size, Generating absurd levels of power.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion ok but you wouldnt have to sustain the feild just give a nice burst should be enough to disable nearby ships
aiwalk 1 month ago
@aiwalk Even then, most I've seen the Cylons capable of are 50 megaton stratnukes for orbital bombardment.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion I see, question, would you mind explaning the science behind Interdictor Grav Wells, I understand the theroy but not the science
aiwalk 1 month ago
@aiwalk I don't know if even the writers have really come up with a full explanation for that, I know that it is possible to exit hyperspace directly into the orbit of a planet, but not in atmosphere, it IS possible to enter hyperspace rather close to a planet, within it's gravity well in fact, but it takes longer for the Navicomp to compensate, otherwise you can tear your Hyperdrive apart. With an unstable gravity well like that created by an Interdictor the Navicomp cannot compensate at all.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion thank you, that helps alot, (hope u dont mind me asking, im better with theroy of use then the science behind it) when ur talkin bout hypermatter reactors is that talkin bout contaning or generating several million amounts of power. also (slightly off subject) do u kno where the underside turbolasers on a star destroyer r, i cant find em
aiwalk 1 month ago
@aiwalk It annihilates tens of thousands of tons of fuel per second, which equates to around 1/30th or so the power of our sun, give or take. The Executor's shields alone are equal in power to our sun. Star Destroyers have numerous light and medium turbolasers dotted along the underside, but no heavies which are among the only real visible ones on the shooting model. The only visible mediums are the quad and tri guns situated along the brim trenches and axial defense turrets.
Perion 1 month ago
@aiwalk i can, the gravity wells of an interdictor produce an area of space that the emergency shut offs on the ships warp drives pick up as mass (detectable thorugh gravitational fields, in star wars subspace is a more concise version of real space, objects still exist and you can collide into them, thus they are set to exit if the drive picks up a gravity well AKA matter, and like previously said the interdictor creates that well. you can warp with the safety off but that's dangerous.
Tzimisce00 1 month ago
@Tzimisce00 ok so, in essance, you r saying they have are more primitive in nature, however your theory has 1 problem, if its physical subspace then anything without sheilds would have haul peirces from clusters of space dust
aiwalk 1 month ago
@spoofoflife It's the IF part that's the primary factor here, and the fact of the matter is that neither the colonials nor the cylons have nothing in their arsenal that could accomplish that.
Perion 1 month ago
For the empire!
BloodRaven228 2 months ago
Wow. This is a stunning piece of 3D animation.
bzol74 2 months ago
@141Wingman Since when do imperial ships have any defenses at all?
Badgaldinger 2 months ago
@Badgaldinger Since day one.
Perion 2 months ago
that is if u could call 1 warship a fleet
141Wingman 2 months ago
@DisturbedRenegade we like the Imperials cause they have better tech andthey rnt racist they r just a better version of the dominion and the confederacy of Starcraft 1 and 2 and well in real life star wars would kick battle star galacticas ass because in star wars they have heaps better tech and they also have shields(deflector Shields) and and the imperial fleet is 10 000 times bigger then battle star galacticas miniscule fleet
141Wingman 2 months ago
@141Wingman Plus they(Galictica Government) did have peace and disarmament.And where is Super Star Destroyer that would the game really quick.
murraydonald62 2 months ago
i think starwars will win cause of the deathstar
141Wingman 2 months ago
were r the shields!(Deflector shields) on the rebel cruisers and star destroyers
141Wingman 2 months ago
@141Wingman Enemy shoots with particles I believe shields only work against energy weapons.
Soldierlozer 2 months ago
@Soldierlozer Ray shields block energy weapons, Particle shields block kinetic impactors. Composite shielding blocks both, all Imperial ships have the latter.
Perion 2 months ago
BSG would win any fighter battle because ONLY BSG ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDS SPACIAL PHYSICS (lol)
When it comes to ship-to-ship though, Battlestars just can't repel fire of that magnitude...
eternalGEN3SIS 3 months ago
@eternalGEN3SIS. The two largest and most powerful battleship ever built were the Yamota and her sister Musashi. Both were sunk by carrier based aircraft. The Carriers stayed outside the gunnery range of the two IJN superbattleships and launched drive bombers and torpedo planes. A fight between a ISD and the BSG would end the same way. The BSG stays out of the ISD weapons reach and sends her fighters to destory the ISD. BSG wins.
DisturbedRenegade 3 months ago
@DisturbedRenegade This is true. Since the Empire is renown for having terrible fighter pilots, I think the A-Team squadron from BSG could clear a path for some Raptors to drop some tactical nukes on an ISD, and it'd probably end exactly like you said. Good thinking, and props on the historical reference *fist-bump*
eternalGEN3SIS 3 months ago
@eternalGEN3SIS. Thank you.
DisturbedRenegade 2 months ago
@eternalGEN3SIS The ISD wouldn't likely notice the Tactical nukes hitting the shields, you clearly have no idea how powerful ISDs really are. Also what proof do you have that TIE's have Terrible pilots?
Battlestar Galactica Tactical nukes range from 75 kilotons to one megaton, a TIE Fighter strafing run carries that same level of energy on the low end, and a Squadron of TIEs carry it on the high end. Fighters are useless against Star Wars capital ships while their shields are up.
Perion 2 months ago
@Perion.I used to be a starwars fan for the dogfights and naval battles and read everything about the two. I don’t know where you are getting your data from, but I would very much like to know if you care to enlighten me. I hope you are not simply making up figures to suit your needs because that would be rather sad. For the moment I will give you the benefit of the doubt on the matter. Also in the X-wing Sires Rouge Squadron destroys an ISD with a volley of torpedoes. I think a nuke would work.
DisturbedRenegade 2 months ago
@DisturbedRenegade in the X-Wing series Rogue Squadron destroys an ISD with a MASSIVE volley of torpedoes of undetermined yield, since they were using slave controlled freighters linked to the torpedoes.
The Concussion Missiles Jango Fett used against Obi-Wan were 191 Megatons a piece. The Seismic Charges he released were 12,000 megatons. Anti-capital ship bombs and torpedoes are known to be well into the gigatons and perhaps, even into the teratons.
Perion 2 months ago
@eternalGEN3SIS Since Star Wars capital ships are used to throwing around and taking energies equivalent to hundreds of millions of BSG tactical nukes every second, for half an hour straight, before losing shields. As well as dishing it out in kind. Cylon Strategic nukes decimate entire fleets of Battlestars in dock, a single Medium Turbolaser shot at 1% power will vapourize every Colonial/Cylon ship in it's path.
Historical references are meaningless when deflector shields enter the equation.
Perion 2 months ago
@DisturbedRenegade Irrelevant, ISD weapons range is measured in light minutes, for the BSG to stay out of that range they would have to be on the other side of the system, They wouldn't know where the TIE fighters are since they don't show up on DRADIS, and once the Imperial ECM goes up the BSG is completely blind, deaf, mute and crippled (since the ECM also affects engine performance.) Easy pickings.
Perion 2 months ago
@Perion. You are mistaking on so many levels it is going to take me weeks to set you straight, where to begin. How about that an ISD is a battleship and a BSG is a carrier. So pay attention Nov. 12th 1940 the British Royal Navy launched an attack against the Fascist Italian fleet in harbor at the battle of Taranto. They inflict massive damage. The Japanese took notes and on Dec. 7th 1941 attacked the U.S Pacific Fleet at anchor at Pearl Harbor.
DisturbedRenegade 2 months ago
@DisturbedRenegade Again using historical precedents break down and no longer apply once Deflector shields enter into the equasion. I know all about those battles you are talking about. The problem is that Shielded ships can absorb enemy fire to the point of making fighters and bombers all but useless while they are up, and indeed in Star Wars fighters can only damage capital ships once their shields are down.
Perion 2 months ago
@Perion Three days later Dec. 10th 1941 the British Royal Navy has deployed the Battleship Prince of Wales and the Battlecrusier Repulse to defend British holdings in the Pacific. They are both sunk by land based bombers of the IJA. The Enterprise sinks Yamota and the Essex, Intrepid, and Franklin sink her sister. Carriers are better warships than battleships which is why no navy in the world still uses them. Carriers can launch aircraft from greater ranges than any naval gun.
DisturbedRenegade 2 months ago
@Perion. Laser is an acronym for
Light
Amplification by
Stimulation of
Electronic
Radiation
Because lasers are beams of light they do travel at the speed of light, however there range is nowhere near as far as artillery fire be it land based or naval fire. Also the carrier does not even need be out of range. Since we are dealing with space and not real naval battles a Battlestar could use a nearby planet to shield it from return fire launch her Vipers.
DisturbedRenegade 2 months ago
@Perion. I'm amending a pair of typos electronic should be electromagnetic and I misspelled series in another post please disregard these errors. Thanks you.
Gabe
DisturbedRenegade 2 months ago
@DisturbedRenegade Lasers in star wars are not L.A.S.E.R.s we see them move slower than light, interact with one another and even flak burst. The Galactica, like her Vipers, lack inertial dampeners and is thus limited to accelerations in the single digits. Star Destroyers can circumnavigate planets from a dead stop in Seconds to minutes. Which requires Acceleration in the quadruple digits, a Star Destroyer could easily close the distance on a Battlestar and be on top of it in moments.
Perion 2 months ago
@Perion @Perion Yes Galactica lacks inertial dampeners, beam weapons, energy shields, and almost all sci-fi tech except for FTLs. BSG is mostly hard sci-fi. These things do not exist and we have no idea how to build them in the real world. FTL is of course in that category as well, but you kind of have to have it because the vastness of space. However there is a mathematic formula that could give us FTLs. It was on Sci Fi science with Dr Michio Kaku who is of course a genius.
DisturbedRenegade 2 months ago
@DisturbedRenegade Exactly, Star Wars are capable of things that neither we, nor the people in Galactica could even come close to.
Perion 2 months ago
@Perion. It soft sci-fi were is the fun in that?
DisturbedRenegade 2 months ago
@Perion. Beam weapons whether they move at light speed or near light speed have the same problem. They limit your tactics to pure pursuit meaning you have to train your weapons on a target to get a kill. A solid projectile like a 20mm allows you more flexibility in your tactics by allowing for lead pursuit of a target. Place the gun sight were the target will be and fire. The enemy flies into the rounds. "THAT'S A KILL."
DisturbedRenegade 2 months ago
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Perion 2 months ago
@DisturbedRenegade Actually Beam weapons and weapons that move at light speed can still do that, just at much longer ranges (light seconds) A nifty trick of Fighter blasters is that they can fire off axis, especially when they get a lock. The bolts do NOT travel at light speed, (at least right away, but given that capital ship heavy guns have light minute ranges suggests they may accelerate) though there is some debate as to whether or not there is an invisible damaging component that does.
Perion 2 months ago
@Perion. What do you mean right away? You realize light speed is a constant. Light travels at the same rate all the time. You may be able to play with some laws of physics, but there is no way around that one.
DisturbedRenegade 2 months ago
@DisturbedRenegade Of course, but the particle bolt could theoretically accelerate to extremely high fractions of C to the point where the fact that they aren't quite at C is academic, how exactly it would accelerate after leaving a launch mechanism would be a nifty trick though (potentially In the realm of clarke's 3rd law.). More likely the Light minute range is for unsuspecting vessels and the Imperials cause so much sensor jamming that they don't even see the bolts coming let alone the ship.
Perion 2 months ago
@Perion. It is a little hard to miss that missive green beam of light comming at you. A Rebel pilot would need to be blind not to see it. Also why the hell do you like the Imperials? They are modeled after Soviets/Facist/and Nazis. I have to ask you the same question everyone keep on asking me. "WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?"
DisturbedRenegade 2 months ago
@DisturbedRenegade Depends on the angle of approach. Whoever said I like them? I like their tech, their stuff looks cool and sounds cool, they're also enormously powerful. Also like the Soviets/Facists/and Nazis, it's more the people in the high command that are evil rather than the individual rank and file. I do NOT like Palpatine for example, and agree that he had to go. But as the Clone War era republic showed, Imperial like stuff can be pretty awesome when led by the non-morally bankrupt.
Perion 2 months ago
@DisturbedRenegade Lightspeed in a vacuum is constant, lightspeed through different mediums (air, water, etc) is not constant, it is slower depending on the refractive index of the medium.
KaneinEncanto 3 weeks ago
@Perion Refrence please: What movie / book are Star Destroyers observed 'circumnavigating planets from a dead stop in Seconds to minutes'? In the movies they are seen moving like the gigantic slow-pokes they look like.
KaneinEncanto 3 weeks ago
@KaneinEncanto Return of the Jedi and Attack of the Clones, The Imperial fleet circumnavigates Endor in minutes while in Attack of the clones The fleet has gotten several planetary diameters of Geonosis in seconds. Complete Cross Sections gives the linear acceleration of an Acclamator at 3500 Gs while the Venator Class Star Destroyer is slightly slower at 3000, it's not unreasonable to assume the Imperator/Imperial class is within an order of magnitude of these two.
Perion 3 weeks ago
@Perion. Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you I've been swamped with work. Now about jamming there are two ways to go about jamming an enemy's radar the first is white noise which works on all frequencies but affects some more than others and can be cut through. The other type is jamming the frequencies an enemy uses. This requires SIGINT. In BSG the Cylons have the Colonial frequencies because of Six and can therefore go about jamming them. The Imperial ECM would be ineffective.
DisturbedRenegade 1 month ago
@DisturbedRenegade That's not how Imperial ECM works, those two ways you mentioned are how modern ECM works, but not how it works in Star Wars which is vastly more advanced, your logic is flawed.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion. This is news to me. Care to explain a bit more? Thanks
DisturbedRenegade 1 month ago
@DisturbedRenegade Very little exactly is known about Star Wars jamming technology, other than the fact that they can jam sensors so badly that they can't even tell if the shields of the Death Star are up or not, but leave them otherwise unaffected, even without any prior spies etc zeroing in on their frequencies. On top of that they create such massive distortions to the fabric of space as to reduce engine performance by as much as 99.7% Prett sure I've mentioned that last bit before though.
Perion 1 month ago
@Perion. That seems rather vague almost like they cannot be bothered to do a little research. Blanket jamming would have to cover so many frequencies that it could never be effective. This is more or less what white noise is. Fighter use radar in set to the I/J band but even than there are so many frequencies on that band that you really need the specifics. While I consider the FA/22A a overall waste of money I do acknowledge that the AESA radar to be a step forwards.
DisturbedRenegade 1 month ago
@Perion The AESA radar’s low probability of intercept combined with a high resistance to jamming due to the radar changing it operating frequency with every pulse it makes the job of SIGINT very difficult. There has always existed a race between technological advances and their respected counters. At the moment AESA radar is winning over jamming technology, but there will surely be counters developed for it. Victory in war is driven by evolution adapt or die.
DisturbedRenegade 1 month ago
@DisturbedRenegade Again you are bringing the principles of too many real world technologies while talking about a civilization that can go from one end of the galaxy to the other in hours to days. Can build moon sized battle stations in months, have anti-grav, energy weapons that can blow up planets, and have deflector shields more powerful than the sun. I doubt Imperial ECM has any more in common with modern ECM than Turbolasers have in common with an 18 inch gun.
Perion 1 month ago
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Perion 2 months ago
@eternalGEN3SIS Star Wars, Star Trek and Stargate do understand spacial physics, they just choose to "ignore" them with "Navigational Gyros" and "Stabilizers" etc, in fact pretty much any series that involves Inertial Dampeners or Acceleration Compensators have that ability. While shows that don't have such technology are slaves to newton and limited to about a dozen Gs sustained acceleration/maneuverability.
Also Babylon 5 did that 10 years before Neo Battlestar Galactica
Perion 2 months ago
@Perion Isn't that a weakness though? If I'm being traced by a fighter, I'd like to be able to spin on a dime and shoot him without having to take a long arc to get around him. Inertial Dampeners are a great thing to be sure, but those "navigational gyros" seem like a horrible handicap in a dogfight.
eternalGEN3SIS 2 months ago
@eternalGEN3SIS Not really, because even in that long arc you can take evasive action, when spinning around you are effectively moving in a straight, predictable line, becoming a sitting duck.
Perion 2 months ago
@eternalGEN3SIS I know for a fact (from video game simulations, not reality I know but more realistic than hollywood choreography that's for certain.)
That Star Wars style flight is VASTLY superior to BSG/B5 style flight. It's easier to control and so many of those tricks that they do in BSG/B5 (and this video) leave them wide open to get splashed. Sure there are things you can do that you can't with Stablizers on, but unless you have no one shooting at you, you're better off not bothering.
Perion 2 months ago
that was fucking badass.
Gallardo501st 3 months ago
The Colonial Are Role Playing As Rebel & Imperial Of Course Imperial
justinpatrick1011 3 months ago
If there's ever a part 2, there should definitely be X-Wings and Cylons, and maybe even some rapid-fire ship-to-ship fights like SW3 and the new BSG series.
UGNAvalon 3 months ago
How about the Death Star versus a few Baseships!!!!
TRASHxIT 3 months ago
I reckon the Vipers are a match for the TIE's but the Battlestars would be gang-banged by the Destroyers.
rustybuckets07 3 months ago
really cool video, thanks for sharing. I love BSG & Star Wars..this was real cool, wished it had been longer
darkmuppetmaster 3 months ago
one Star Destroyer would rape the Galactica fleet and not break a sweat doing it
MC7791 4 months ago
@MC7791 the star war people are more advanced in technology than the BSG people?
bananaslol1 3 months ago
@bananaslol1 to a degree yes. fighter wise its a toss up but the Star Destroyers would waste the Battlestars without breaking a sweat
MC7791 3 months ago
@bananaslol1 by a factor of millions.
Perion 2 months ago
That was awesome
harleyluigi1 4 months ago