These mics do actually sound a lot better than this... I've started using them instead of shure a lot of the time to be honest. I've found the i5 and the D6 to be great on most modern music. Although if recording to tape or recording an older style band in a lot of cases I would tend to shy away from the audix set and go for something a bit less clinical like a 57 and a D112... As far as toms go though I tend to use MD421's or audio technica AE3000s.
Hey Les -- why don't you pay Manley Labs for the Langevin DVC you ripped off from them you scumbag? Looks like Audix paid you for doing this video. I wonder if they know one of their endorsers is a thieving bastard? They will now...
I don't know if it's you tube audio process... but it sounds like a good amateur kit.. way far from being a professional recorded kit. besides, there's a lot of phasing between mics.. listen to your kick mic and compare it to what you get with the overheads from your kick drum it all sounds a muffled and dry, also the cymbals sound like they coming from the tom-mics spreading.
Okay, so I've been messing around with micing drums in my basement. The room has a lot of insulation and stuff, is there any way to prevent mic bleed? because it seems like my overheads are picking up a lot of the snare and kick as well.
Dude first of all The 2 mics on the kick sounded like they were out of phase. of coarse that was before the SPL from the kick blew the capsule out of that large Diaphragm condenser. Sorry bro but that was like watching a train wreck in slow motion.LMAO
mmmh! Its not the mic but how you use. The D6 does not need that extra mic for help.. there is something going on with the Mono audio!! the overheads are collapsed or just not on.. sounds more like just kick, snare and toms.
Never the less these mics are superb.. Just that the mix here is out of wack..
the thing i hate about just using overheads is the ride always seemes to be too quiet in the mix does any1 know what kinda mics i should u to close mic say a crsh cymbol and a ride??
@teenaussie the new sm27! i got a ksm 32 and i love that thing on the cymbals, the sm27 is similar except you mentioned that you wanted to close mic and the sm27 is a hyper cardioid condenser.
Laughing at all the hater comments, Guess being the engineer for bands such as Fleetwood Mac and Pink Floyd means he doesn't know what he's doing huh? (Note the sarcasm here)
i cant stand when kicks dont have a hole for the mic&they just put it near the head.make a tunnel,use a blanket,do something to keep that sound on the mic
@Sicmanofva i ran it through my m audio fast track ultra 8r and rokit monitors. it's a great raw recording. i'm sure it would sound awesome with some EQ
@Sicmanofva nah the control room next door has a pair of 192s, DM100 and Adam s7a monitors. I lead with kit spec in my comments because peoples usual response is. 'stop listening through your pc speakers..' etc
@choorex Thank you choorex, actually I could give a shit if the guy in this video is a good engineer or not. The only reason I felt like defending this is because engineers are usually complete douche bags that think they are better than everybody. For some reason peoples' ability to use a mixing board goes to their head as if it's rocket science or something, and they don't have a clue about getting a good recording.
wow was expecting alot more.... that snare sounds terrible...and for D6 that bass sounded very lifeless. the toms were very flat too.. the overheads were great...but id rather hear some Sure SM98's they sounded about 1000 times better
I don't see any technique here....I don't see how we can get a read on the tone from the mics with the backing tracks mixed in...I was hoping to hear some placement and pure mic tracks....so this video is not helping distinguish these mics say from a 57 in the same position on the snare.
Are you eqing the mics at the board to mix in with the track? Gating? Lots of mising info here.
The bass sounded tubby in relation to rest of kit.
Miking techniques include the kind of mic you use. He was using cheap mics and showing where they can be placed to achieve a good sound. So considering this is somewhat of an ad for audix, this was definately a technique video too.
This is true, but for around $200, CAD makes a seven piece mic set that's surprisingly great for the price. You probably couldn't get quality as good as in this video, but you can still get great quality recordings out of them.
I REEALLLYYY need some help!!! I'm recording my band over the next 2 days and I am using a Yamaha MW12 CX mixer and Cubase AI 4 Software. Could some PLEEEASSSEE tell me how to recording the drums so that each drum (kick, snare, toms, etc) is on a separate track while I am recording with all the mics miced up.
The Yamaha MW12 CX mixer only outputs in stereo or two channels. you cannot have each microphone as a separate track. you must mix each microphone first then record into Cubase! I was going to buy a Yamaha mixer too, but realized I would only be able to record to tracks! so bought a m-audio fast track ultra, works well!
all in all it is a great sound for raw tracks. Some people need to remember that you can't expect this to sound like the finished tracks on a mixed and mastered album. as an engineer i would rather hear the raw tracks so i know what the mics really are sounding like. And a drum sound is only good if it compliments the song. Sometimes a ring from the snare makes it pop out of the mix. but it's all personal preference. i own most of the same mics. and love them ever y time i use them!!!
hey i got a question. what effects the sound of a drum recording? my band has been trying to record for a like a year now and we cant seem to get good sound out of the drums. their very high quality drums and their tuned amazing. i have a mic on all 3 toms my snare and kick and 2 overheads. and their all pretty good mics. nothing shitty. we run it through a board and mix it into the recording machine. but the finished product always comes out loud and bassy. its also sounds very distant..
first make sure your overheads are not too far away, and placed properly. That alone can make the drums sound distant or just bad in general. There are lots of different techniques for overheads. I try to visualize the cymbals in two halves then place the mic right above the center of the cymbals about 2 feet above. The trick is getting the snare as close to being same distance from each mic as you can. but usually it's closer to the drums left OH mic
For the people saying this sucks, you really don't know what it's like having a studio. You have to remember that it is customer preference, so that does not mean everything he records will sound like this. Besides it sounds fine, doesn't look like he really wanted to make any impression. Besides it does actually sound good. Also, remember, this is the raw sound, the great thing about the digital age is that you can always go back and tweak it.
also if you are trying to demonstrate the sound of a drum kit why the hell have an electronic drum track going at the same time....plus that guy cant even keep a beet,...wack! but thanks for trying ...you meant well
I would imagine they have them to a mixer where they sound check them and signal the sound to a preamp which can record straight into a DAW like ProTools or Logic Pro for direct drum recording, the most important thing is mic placement on drums for recording.
Everything is to dry. The mix is so poor it wouldn't matter if he used microphones from radio shack. I fact, I have used 10.00 mics from radio shack and gotten a better sound than he has here. I can use two room mics and a kick mic and get a better sound. The mix is so dry, it almost sounds like a drum machine. The art of creating, and manipulating "sound" meaning, "sound frequency" and "tone", has obviously been lost. Digital sucks. Sound programs suck. Analog is the way to go. Old equipment.
Dry is the word I've been looking for on all of these videos. The bass sounds shit int this vid. I'm better off micing my bass with an sm58 and overhead with an sm57.
It has to do with the "area" of sounds the mic picks up. 57's pick up what is right in front of them. 58's puck up sounds from a larger areas, sound all around. Notice the shape of the mics. The ball, or lack of ball on top. That is usually an indication. No ball is no area, ball on top usually means a large area.
Yes, and no. See? Recording is a form of art all to its own. It has been a lost form of art for quite some time, about 20 years or so. Digital crap now. Use you imagination. Bring back the art of sound. Take the mic and stick it up your ass, if that makes a good sound. I being sarcastic, but making a point as well. Use the bathroom. Use the chimney. Put the mic in a card boar box. Umm, put it up against a wall and record deflected sound. Experiment. Bring back the art of recording sound. :)
Oh, Umm, back to your original question, I have used a cardboard strip and taped that around mic. I works quite well if you don't use gates. In some ways, it works better. Use your ears.
tryin to record hand drums without any bleed from other instruments and our only extra mic is a condenser that pics up EVERYTHING even people talkin in the other room
Bleed through shouldn't be a problem as long as everything is mixed correctly before you hit the record button, especially if you are muli track recording. Same thing if you are just recording stereo, but thing is, you have to nail all your levels first, do a test recording, then go back and adjust, etc etc. Bleed through can be good because it adds texture. It can be a pain to if you need a clean track. I use both. You can use "gates" to stop bleed through. They cut out low db sounds. Bleed.
shure are really cheap, shity mics. Use audix f10 for the toms, f12 for floor tom, d6 for bass, i5 for snare top and bottom, and f15 for hi-hat and overheads.
oh jeez. commented too early. HE even says he's using the WRONG mic on kick. What a joke. u probably find , he was rushed and didn't even set it up right.
...mmm.....i wud say that the snare for me is the least quality. i think he wud probably need to use drumagog to overlay snappier snare. Kick is okay. i wouldn't say in this video its best. It may possibly the drum kit is jst purely not tuned perfectly. mayb they didn't spend as much time on that. cymbals are fine. toms are okay.
i reckon alot of the stuff we hear out there has been sampled with drumagog/bfd to fatten things up. NOT replaced. just blended in.
Those of you making negative comments about the sound and Les' abilities should stop to consider two things:
1. Les is a Pro who works with wildly successful artists. You're not. Wonder why that is.
2. YOU are making "judgment calls" based upon a compressed internet audio stream, the quality of which is barely better than an 11k phone line. Your speakers are irrelevant.
I worked with Les in the same studio where Fleetwood Mac and Motley Crue recorded.
hey i have some questions. im still trying to learn out these drum mics. when u hook up ur mics what kind of software or recording system do u have? cause i have just the mics but i dnt know what to hook them up to change the sound. i know some poeple run it off there computer or some kind of software but answer this for me thanks!
You can either download a bunch of different free programs from the internet, or pay for a program like cubase or protools (they get really expensive, like cubase 4). Whatever you decide, you need to get some kind of interface that your mics plug into and then from there goes into your computer. you can get a 2 input, 4 input, 8 input, etc. Whatever fits your budget.
well I can say that i have heard worse drum sounds. The trick with drum technique is you have to find a sound that works for your style of playing and the overall character of the mix. this guys background doesnt really require multitudes of bass. These are a very general sounding set of drums. Oh and he compressed them way too much and too hard. that snare didnt have time to open up like i know it can.
I actually do, I have a set of good Roland studio monitors and a sub. It just seems like the way it was mic'd up, or how the guy tunes it give no sub frequencies. Plus I don't really hear that much of a good attack either
sounds like the snare mike was on the batter, rather than under the drum; the bass drum was well high and muffled; the cymbals sounded good; the toms were pretty good...
for me, the snare and bass drum sounds didn't work.
if it was me doing this i would of have the floor toms up a lil higher, yes the kick was very muffled and this vid seems more like a big advert for the mics then anything else
The overheads are nice. i dont really like the sound the snare mic is picking up, try mixing a little bit of the snares into the mix so it will sound like it has more body. Just EQing reverb onto a only top miced snare isnt going to help much and it will just sound lame.
So this is what an amazing bassdrum sound, sounds like? In my opninion it sounds pretty bad, I personally think placing the mic a bit more into the bassdrum itself, and adding just a bit more lows and mid-lows would make it sound a lot better.
The guy has a full blown drum recording room. it probobly has a 20 ft high cieling, Its wood floor, walls with carpet on um and wood paneling on the walls too. you could play on card board and it would sound good. not only that but they put digital reverb on the tracks. If they really wanted to make a promo video they should have thrown those drums in a 10'x10' room with all concrete walls and then made it sound like that. If they did that I would really be considering buying these mics.suckyvid
yeah it does... the sound coming from the inside of the kick is really different from the one coming from the outside. lots and lots of sound engineers do that.
Listen to Rush's Snakes And Arrows and you'll know why. Many engineers make drummers take the bass drum reso head off but guys like me prefer the reso head to be on the drum. It suits the sound we're aiming for. This way you can get the best of both.
1 mic inside and one outside works AMAZINGLY!!, If you aim the inside directly where the beater hits, you can get an AMAZING amount of attack, and when you have a mic outside you get a lot more tone and a deeper sound, when you EQ and mix them together, you can create a pretty tight sound, good for solid rock sound.
what a load of crap. Drums sound pants. Kit drum was way to clicky. Couldnt hear what the drums really sounded like over that stupid backing track. I would like to hear the drums on there own with no backing track so you cant hide how crap these mics are.
im not going to lie it was an amazing sound however i would of liked to see i bit better mic up of the ride symbol, but the video was not to informative
well the audix microphones sound great on that kit not gonna lie, but where are the micing techniques i was promised?
and technically you shouldent put a condensor on a kick because of there sensitivity, most condensors these days you can get away with it. it all varys each mic, keep in mind its already boosting the signal 80db via phantom power, being that close to a kick can be well over 120db, that plus 80 db is enough to ATLEAST clip, regardelss of its spl
These mics do actually sound a lot better than this... I've started using them instead of shure a lot of the time to be honest. I've found the i5 and the D6 to be great on most modern music. Although if recording to tape or recording an older style band in a lot of cases I would tend to shy away from the audix set and go for something a bit less clinical like a 57 and a D112... As far as toms go though I tend to use MD421's or audio technica AE3000s.
ChrisJS1987 1 month ago
anything sounds better than the audix d6 on the kick. also, youd be better of using sm57 for the snare than the i5. i mean for me it sounds better.
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liquidmob 2 months ago
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liquidmob 2 months ago
f15's are way better condensers
ImAChristian666 4 months ago
I don't know if it's you tube audio process... but it sounds like a good amateur kit.. way far from being a professional recorded kit. besides, there's a lot of phasing between mics.. listen to your kick mic and compare it to what you get with the overheads from your kick drum it all sounds a muffled and dry, also the cymbals sound like they coming from the tom-mics spreading.
NYG4 6 months ago
and hat has no highs to much mids
Obelisk2290 8 months ago
The kick drum has a phase issue. I hear two kick sounds firing in succession. sounds like absolute crap for the equipment and space provided
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video fucking sucks vote down if you agree
AphoticAgony 8 months ago
"Oh Hi!! I'm Les Camacho and I'm gonna teach you some miking techniques with mics I've never used before!!! But that's ok, just go and BUY THEM!!!"
Christiantheory 9 months ago
Utter crap. My neighbor gets a better sound knocking on my door than the sound this guy got on his base drum.
leonzioooo 9 months ago
i don´t like kick drum
coviparker 1 year ago
I now know the model numbers of several Audix mic's. Thanks! I want my 7:40 back.
You may want to re-title the video...taking out the "Drum Miking Techniques " part.
GutPyle 1 year ago
there's idiots that think this is harder then guitar pshh.
jinjanco23 1 year ago
what a stupid video.... get this guy some cue cards or something...
andreas2161 1 year ago
Okay, so I've been messing around with micing drums in my basement. The room has a lot of insulation and stuff, is there any way to prevent mic bleed? because it seems like my overheads are picking up a lot of the snare and kick as well.
jonnywaffle6 1 year ago
@jonnywaffle6 Try putting Noise Gate.
Vanjal 1 year ago
@jonnywaffle6 what mics do you use? and what positioning do you have them?
gabbalabbawoop 1 year ago
@gabbalabbawoop Well i have a set of digital reference mics, and i put one in the kick drum, one on the snare, and two overheads.
jonnywaffle6 1 year ago
@jonnywaffle6
There is basically no way to get around spill. This is why one tries to get as many sounds into one mic the better.
Symphony Orchestras are recorded with 2 microphones for the whole thing. Drums benefit from much the same attitude, keep the phasing down, clean.
bishopdante 1 year ago
@jonnywaffle6 roll off the low end in the eq of the overhead mics
mgsg50 1 year ago
eeasddsad
farrlinn 1 year ago
sound was raw. it suited the song and it's good if thats what you're looking for.
lengman2112 1 year ago
sounded meh
fuckenmike 1 year ago
Excellent, now I know how to make my drums sound pish
DavySolaris 1 year ago
Maybe retake the video without this guy screwing it up! Nice work!?
flywm 1 year ago
Dude first of all The 2 mics on the kick sounded like they were out of phase. of coarse that was before the SPL from the kick blew the capsule out of that large Diaphragm condenser. Sorry bro but that was like watching a train wreck in slow motion.LMAO
MrDavidposey 1 year ago
It's sooooo stupid to put drum tracks in loops when you have a drummer. Why would you even consider that?
SpankyWhispette 1 year ago
Too much midrange compression on the kick. Use 115 hz newb.
Notespompon 1 year ago
mmmh! Its not the mic but how you use. The D6 does not need that extra mic for help.. there is something going on with the Mono audio!! the overheads are collapsed or just not on.. sounds more like just kick, snare and toms.
Never the less these mics are superb.. Just that the mix here is out of wack..
girotube 1 year ago
The overall sound is nice, but the bass drum is not micced right somehow, too much low end and a bit of reverb on it. Needs to be punchier.
DJBufster 1 year ago
Whats the song he's playing along to. It sounds great.
Heinrich1122 1 year ago
he says the kick drum sounds great, is he hearing the same sound i am?
kennykensworth 1 year ago
the thing i hate about just using overheads is the ride always seemes to be too quiet in the mix does any1 know what kinda mics i should u to close mic say a crsh cymbol and a ride??
teenaussie 1 year ago
@teenaussie the new sm27! i got a ksm 32 and i love that thing on the cymbals, the sm27 is similar except you mentioned that you wanted to close mic and the sm27 is a hyper cardioid condenser.
kennykensworth 1 year ago
Laughing at all the hater comments, Guess being the engineer for bands such as Fleetwood Mac and Pink Floyd means he doesn't know what he's doing huh? (Note the sarcasm here)
rickcperry 1 year ago
Kick sucks cause it's mixed with the kick sample. So there is a phasing problem
plastikization 1 year ago
how do you video record and get the miced sound in the camera??
FunnyBoi1001 1 year ago
i cant stand when kicks dont have a hole for the mic&they just put it near the head.make a tunnel,use a blanket,do something to keep that sound on the mic
chadewatson 1 year ago
the d6 is in a hole. i agree but if u put a condenser on the out side and a dynamic on the inside, u can get some pretty heavy attack
johnfee33 1 year ago
Is anyone monitoring this video through studio monitors or just a crappy pair of computer monitors through the crappy factory sound card?
Sicmanofva 1 year ago
@Sicmanofva i ran it through my m audio fast track ultra 8r and rokit monitors. it's a great raw recording. i'm sure it would sound awesome with some EQ
956miggz 1 year ago
@956miggz I was just curious what people were listening through since eveyone is ripping on it. Nothing sounds good through cpu speakers.
Sicmanofva 1 year ago
@Sicmanofva apogee ad16, dynaudio x16 through a solid state logic desk. it sounds fine but it wont help anyone mic a drum kit!
choorex 1 year ago
@choorex Oh, is that all you got?
Sicmanofva 1 year ago
@Sicmanofva nah the control room next door has a pair of 192s, DM100 and Adam s7a monitors. I lead with kit spec in my comments because peoples usual response is. 'stop listening through your pc speakers..' etc
choorex 1 year ago
@choorex Thank you choorex, actually I could give a shit if the guy in this video is a good engineer or not. The only reason I felt like defending this is because engineers are usually complete douche bags that think they are better than everybody. For some reason peoples' ability to use a mixing board goes to their head as if it's rocket science or something, and they don't have a clue about getting a good recording.
Sicmanofva 1 year ago
wow really bad sounding drum mics. im not saying les is a bad engineer at all.
i never really liked audix mics and now i wont be having any in my locker
planet10 1 year ago
wow was expecting alot more.... that snare sounds terrible...and for D6 that bass sounded very lifeless. the toms were very flat too.. the overheads were great...but id rather hear some Sure SM98's they sounded about 1000 times better
ldskater1 1 year ago
I don't see any technique here....I don't see how we can get a read on the tone from the mics with the backing tracks mixed in...I was hoping to hear some placement and pure mic tracks....so this video is not helping distinguish these mics say from a 57 in the same position on the snare.
Are you eqing the mics at the board to mix in with the track? Gating? Lots of mising info here.
The bass sounded tubby in relation to rest of kit.
Talented drummer; overplayed for the track
jasaggio 2 years ago 9
Hey Les, thanks for making our sound killer.
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thereactives 2 years ago
that kick drum sounded shitty and hollow
AphoticAgony 2 years ago
AKG d-112 is where its at, as well as a beta 52.
TJGProductions 2 years ago 4
this sound shitty
13crapa 2 years ago
The kick drum sounded dead and flat.
rudeass 2 years ago 20
Thats what I have found with the D6 mic myself.
whiteratprime 2 years ago
@rudeass it's also peaking, i cna hear it on my headphones.
sound like he has FAR too much dampening in the kick, if he used a super-kick II and a ported regulator...it would have been FAR better ;D
gabbalabbawoop 1 year ago
@rudeass i dont think its processed yet...just raw mic sound
1withmyself 1 year ago
@rudeass i agree,, but music hasnt rules
oliverioraga 10 months ago
They're using the Audix D6 in some pro studios now for the kick drum. Not sure about the others though. ;)
pcaporalli 2 years ago
Is he old enough to have worked with Pink Floyd?
googenshlagen 2 years ago
the members of Pink Floyd have been musically active to this very day.
tfrost1988 2 years ago 4
@tfrost1988
Except for Richard Wright...
I mean, he said Pink Floyd, which means that he worked on the Division Bell...? How old can this guy be?
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uhm guys travis barker uses these.....dont think that they suck just because hes not using compressors^^
tirithon147 2 years ago
@tirithon147 travis barker sucks my left testicle
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tumlinmalika 2 years ago
6:07 Haha...the mic is called an SEX1? ROFL
gcdrumguru 2 years ago
i checked on their homepage their called SCX
tirithon147 2 years ago
these record sounds like shit!
simon870909 2 years ago
The kick sounds like a plunger lol
How can you call this a " Drum Miking Techniques" video? This is nothing more than a commercial
TheJonathanPace 2 years ago 6
@TheJonathanPace
Miking techniques include the kind of mic you use. He was using cheap mics and showing where they can be placed to achieve a good sound. So considering this is somewhat of an ad for audix, this was definately a technique video too.
aricbrenner 2 years ago
bad quality
UniBoxSystem 2 years ago
An add... come on, who's going to use those mics in a pro studio????
lemuelkyleconnell 2 years ago 3
Was this a how to... video or an advertisment? Didnt watch it all and searched for another video.
noizy4 2 years ago
I own those mics myself and they do definitely not sound that crappy
Ratm63 2 years ago
sounds like shite to me!
studio825 2 years ago
they would never make a good sounding recording on youtube because of the quality.
chris25meza 2 years ago
horroble kick!.. sound like a cheap web-mic..
NYG4 2 years ago 6
Nice
limzog9 2 years ago
wtf there wasnt any drum miking techniques, it may as well have been a fucking microphone advertisement
knifefuck 2 years ago 32
It would be nice to hear the sound without so much youtube compression.
MichaelBradus 2 years ago 2
nice bass, turn it down just a small tad, but otherwise great mics.
TonyJames95 2 years ago
i make my drums sound good with the right eq panning compression and reverb
fuck spending all that money on 400$ mics
killingmanbearpig 2 years ago
400$ is not so much for mics for drumset
ArisMetal 2 years ago 3
This is true, but for around $200, CAD makes a seven piece mic set that's surprisingly great for the price. You probably couldn't get quality as good as in this video, but you can still get great quality recordings out of them.
ItsShredTime 2 years ago
aha S-E-X mic
LudwigDrummr 2 years ago
thats exactly wat i thought but its S C X :(
Guitarfreak2312 2 years ago
Actually, SCX. Nice play on words though..
chrian31410 2 years ago
I REEALLLYYY need some help!!! I'm recording my band over the next 2 days and I am using a Yamaha MW12 CX mixer and Cubase AI 4 Software. Could some PLEEEASSSEE tell me how to recording the drums so that each drum (kick, snare, toms, etc) is on a separate track while I am recording with all the mics miced up.
NeilMan1990 2 years ago
The Yamaha MW12 CX mixer only outputs in stereo or two channels. you cannot have each microphone as a separate track. you must mix each microphone first then record into Cubase! I was going to buy a Yamaha mixer too, but realized I would only be able to record to tracks! so bought a m-audio fast track ultra, works well!
JohnnieWentworth 2 years ago
you have to have a sound card or usb 2.0 or firewire mixer...i have usb 2.0 and run all track seprate its great and its just as good as firewire..
gageaaron32 2 years ago
you need a 8 track multi track recorder
the yamaha will only record to a stereo (right and left) master track in cubase
killingmanbearpig 2 years ago
all in all it is a great sound for raw tracks. Some people need to remember that you can't expect this to sound like the finished tracks on a mixed and mastered album. as an engineer i would rather hear the raw tracks so i know what the mics really are sounding like. And a drum sound is only good if it compliments the song. Sometimes a ring from the snare makes it pop out of the mix. but it's all personal preference. i own most of the same mics. and love them ever y time i use them!!!
thefunkyputz 2 years ago
hey i got a question. what effects the sound of a drum recording? my band has been trying to record for a like a year now and we cant seem to get good sound out of the drums. their very high quality drums and their tuned amazing. i have a mic on all 3 toms my snare and kick and 2 overheads. and their all pretty good mics. nothing shitty. we run it through a board and mix it into the recording machine. but the finished product always comes out loud and bassy. its also sounds very distant..
basementlegends 2 years ago
first make sure your overheads are not too far away, and placed properly. That alone can make the drums sound distant or just bad in general. There are lots of different techniques for overheads. I try to visualize the cymbals in two halves then place the mic right above the center of the cymbals about 2 feet above. The trick is getting the snare as close to being same distance from each mic as you can. but usually it's closer to the drums left OH mic
thefunkyputz 2 years ago
also what are you using to mix through? studio monitors? headphones?
thefunkyputz 2 years ago
Yup. I think most of you forgot that this really is raw material, after you've added compressors and equlaizers, this will sound much better.
lowleftchannel 2 years ago
For the people saying this sucks, you really don't know what it's like having a studio. You have to remember that it is customer preference, so that does not mean everything he records will sound like this. Besides it sounds fine, doesn't look like he really wanted to make any impression. Besides it does actually sound good. Also, remember, this is the raw sound, the great thing about the digital age is that you can always go back and tweak it.
atruepretense 2 years ago
the kick drum is up too loud
Timothythedrummer95 2 years ago
also if you are trying to demonstrate the sound of a drum kit why the hell have an electronic drum track going at the same time....plus that guy cant even keep a beet,...wack! but thanks for trying ...you meant well
hypemike 2 years ago
yea i must admit this is a horrible sound..sorry to say
hypemike 2 years ago
What are u suppose to connect your drum mics too/?
a computer???
paulkrol 2 years ago
I would imagine they have them to a mixer where they sound check them and signal the sound to a preamp which can record straight into a DAW like ProTools or Logic Pro for direct drum recording, the most important thing is mic placement on drums for recording.
andrewman12 2 years ago
how many times does he say the word "mess"
friskydingo112 2 years ago
the kick sounds ike fucking shit and the snare has a really bad ring
brandontylerkaiser 2 years ago
Indeed..
LarsenAudun 2 years ago
really bad ring? all a matter of taste. i think the snare sounds pretty cool. i do agree though the kick is kinda...... ehhh
BlackHawk2029 2 years ago
It's called reverb for the snare and the kick sounds fine. And you have no room to talk anyway, your videos sound like shit.
sakenem 2 years ago
jut becasue mine suck oesnt mean that this guys rumsdont suck cuz i know people think his drums suck
brandontylerkaiser 2 years ago
Everything is to dry. The mix is so poor it wouldn't matter if he used microphones from radio shack. I fact, I have used 10.00 mics from radio shack and gotten a better sound than he has here. I can use two room mics and a kick mic and get a better sound. The mix is so dry, it almost sounds like a drum machine. The art of creating, and manipulating "sound" meaning, "sound frequency" and "tone", has obviously been lost. Digital sucks. Sound programs suck. Analog is the way to go. Old equipment.
YouSpamTard 2 years ago 2
Fuckin' A!
Dry is the word I've been looking for on all of these videos. The bass sounds shit int this vid. I'm better off micing my bass with an sm58 and overhead with an sm57.
ChumpJoe 2 years ago
Other way around, put the 57 on the kick and use the 58 as an over head.
YouSpamTard 2 years ago
I thought the 58 picked up more bassy sounds?
ChumpJoe 2 years ago
It has to do with the "area" of sounds the mic picks up. 57's pick up what is right in front of them. 58's puck up sounds from a larger areas, sound all around. Notice the shape of the mics. The ball, or lack of ball on top. That is usually an indication. No ball is no area, ball on top usually means a large area.
YouSpamTard 2 years ago
Good call. Thanks!
ChumpJoe 2 years ago
Could I cover part of my condenser mic (its a rounder one) and try and capture the sound right in front of it instead of a larger area?
TtimePoi 2 years ago
Yes, and no. See? Recording is a form of art all to its own. It has been a lost form of art for quite some time, about 20 years or so. Digital crap now. Use you imagination. Bring back the art of sound. Take the mic and stick it up your ass, if that makes a good sound. I being sarcastic, but making a point as well. Use the bathroom. Use the chimney. Put the mic in a card boar box. Umm, put it up against a wall and record deflected sound. Experiment. Bring back the art of recording sound. :)
YouSpamTard 2 years ago
Oh, Umm, back to your original question, I have used a cardboard strip and taped that around mic. I works quite well if you don't use gates. In some ways, it works better. Use your ears.
YouSpamTard 2 years ago
tryin to record hand drums without any bleed from other instruments and our only extra mic is a condenser that pics up EVERYTHING even people talkin in the other room
TtimePoi 2 years ago
Bleed through shouldn't be a problem as long as everything is mixed correctly before you hit the record button, especially if you are muli track recording. Same thing if you are just recording stereo, but thing is, you have to nail all your levels first, do a test recording, then go back and adjust, etc etc. Bleed through can be good because it adds texture. It can be a pain to if you need a clean track. I use both. You can use "gates" to stop bleed through. They cut out low db sounds. Bleed.
YouSpamTard 2 years ago
what a terrible job this guy did not in the recording but more in like the way he was speaking
q14151415 2 years ago
pretty bad sound for such a nice room!
frikking cunt don't put an LDC against the kickhead
spijtig 2 years ago
Sorry I hate to comment on that besides the kick The rest gets inferior sound quality too maybe coz of the rush in the set up.......I understand.
prestihiyoso 2 years ago
i think the snare could sound a little less airy, but i do love the sound he's getting out of the cymbals.
drumsticks135 2 years ago
i have a d6 and it sounds a hell of alot better than the one in the vid
ericthedrummer1 2 years ago
man , your an engineer? ,why is that your sound sucks!!!!!!!!!!!
darksin 2 years ago
Audix sucks!
Shure for life!
MetalObsessed1 2 years ago
throw an audix i5 on a snare and then say that, I'd take that sound over an SM57 on most days.
dosilegecko 2 years ago 2
nah!
SM57 has a more dirty sound on snare! Thats why its better for metal!
i5 sounds too gainy and lite
MetalObsessed1 2 years ago
shure are really cheap, shity mics. Use audix f10 for the toms, f12 for floor tom, d6 for bass, i5 for snare top and bottom, and f15 for hi-hat and overheads.
johnfee33 2 years ago
your stupid if you think that!
sure is the toughest mics out there, unlike audix they will be ok when you drop em!
use 57's on all the tombs, PG-81's on overheads
and a beta 52 for bass and you will get a sound Audix could never top!
MetalObsessed1 2 years ago
eerr, narrowminded? or do you just work for Shure?
dymondaudio1 2 years ago
No, i used to be really in to audix,
until i used the 57 i knew then and there it had a better sound then the i5,
Shure all the way!
MetalObsessed1 2 years ago
oh jeez. commented too early. HE even says he's using the WRONG mic on kick. What a joke. u probably find , he was rushed and didn't even set it up right.
so im sure this dude, Knows his Shiz!.....
RTorrente 2 years ago
...mmm.....i wud say that the snare for me is the least quality. i think he wud probably need to use drumagog to overlay snappier snare. Kick is okay. i wouldn't say in this video its best. It may possibly the drum kit is jst purely not tuned perfectly. mayb they didn't spend as much time on that. cymbals are fine. toms are okay.
i reckon alot of the stuff we hear out there has been sampled with drumagog/bfd to fatten things up. NOT replaced. just blended in.
RTorrente 2 years ago
Those of you making negative comments about the sound and Les' abilities should stop to consider two things:
1. Les is a Pro who works with wildly successful artists. You're not. Wonder why that is.
2. YOU are making "judgment calls" based upon a compressed internet audio stream, the quality of which is barely better than an 11k phone line. Your speakers are irrelevant.
I worked with Les in the same studio where Fleetwood Mac and Motley Crue recorded.
His drums were fucking amazing.
echosonic 2 years ago
then how comes on other videos its fine :)
shootmenow1 2 years ago
this guy really worked for guys like Pink Floyd???
he doesn't even know how to mike a bass drum properly...
it sounds like youre hitting a trashcan with a stick - wtf?
thermionshock 2 years ago
S.E.X? or S.C.X?
joshtheff 2 years ago
hey i have some questions. im still trying to learn out these drum mics. when u hook up ur mics what kind of software or recording system do u have? cause i have just the mics but i dnt know what to hook them up to change the sound. i know some poeple run it off there computer or some kind of software but answer this for me thanks!
pk3r2 2 years ago
You can either download a bunch of different free programs from the internet, or pay for a program like cubase or protools (they get really expensive, like cubase 4). Whatever you decide, you need to get some kind of interface that your mics plug into and then from there goes into your computer. you can get a 2 input, 4 input, 8 input, etc. Whatever fits your budget.
Silva177 2 years ago
terrible mics
mousen 2 years ago
well I can say that i have heard worse drum sounds. The trick with drum technique is you have to find a sound that works for your style of playing and the overall character of the mix. this guys background doesnt really require multitudes of bass. These are a very general sounding set of drums. Oh and he compressed them way too much and too hard. that snare didnt have time to open up like i know it can.
mdrummanWS 2 years ago
"can i say balls on camera?" lololol
drumsticks135 2 years ago 2
Yeah the snare and bass don't really cut it, but I can see that sound being used for certain types of music, but not much lol.
atruepretense 2 years ago
for me, the snare and bass drum sounds tom's didn't work.
proprotools1234 2 years ago
the bass has no low end
Bonhamman90 2 years ago
Probably because they didn't let the reso head resonate. Dang powerstroke 3's.
SaintDapiea 2 years ago
Probably because you dont have a subwoofer on your computer.
LOUD7 2 years ago
I actually do, I have a set of good Roland studio monitors and a sub. It just seems like the way it was mic'd up, or how the guy tunes it give no sub frequencies. Plus I don't really hear that much of a good attack either
Bonhamman90 2 years ago
Ugh. i5 is ok for snare...rest just doesn't seem to cut it despite the great drums/room....
GCougarMel 2 years ago
I am not impressed at all. Horrible.
inrot 2 years ago
with a $4000 drum kit, $1million room and seasoned engineer, you'd expect a whole lot more.
sharnrock 2 years ago 7
Realize that none of us are getting full quality from a video.
1. Your speakers probably aren't amazing. (im watching on a laptop, with built ins)
2. When uploaded to youtube, I'm sure it loses TONS of quality.
3. Im sure they had it formatted into mp3 to sync it with the video. Mp3's arent amazing.
Yes i admit this doesn't sound great. Especially if it is really a one million dollar room.
Sleepwellmusic 2 years ago
sounds like the snare mike was on the batter, rather than under the drum; the bass drum was well high and muffled; the cymbals sounded good; the toms were pretty good...
for me, the snare and bass drum sounds didn't work.
psychobollox 3 years ago 3
if it was me doing this i would of have the floor toms up a lil higher, yes the kick was very muffled and this vid seems more like a big advert for the mics then anything else
shootmenow1 3 years ago 2
i think you're right about that...
psychobollox 3 years ago
The overheads are nice. i dont really like the sound the snare mic is picking up, try mixing a little bit of the snares into the mix so it will sound like it has more body. Just EQing reverb onto a only top miced snare isnt going to help much and it will just sound lame.
Barbosa123 3 years ago
Kick drum sounds too muffled, which is a problem I personally face a lot too, but that's cuz I use some real shitty mics lol.
This guy apparently doesn't even know what to do with this "high end" equipment he has...
Kontaminate 3 years ago
So this is what an amazing bassdrum sound, sounds like? In my opninion it sounds pretty bad, I personally think placing the mic a bit more into the bassdrum itself, and adding just a bit more lows and mid-lows would make it sound a lot better.
verwustung88 3 years ago
Um. Kind of a bad way to let us see how the drums sound. He probably hit the toms twice in 5 minutes. The ride (just the bell) a few times...
onlyjohnno613 3 years ago
The guy has a full blown drum recording room. it probobly has a 20 ft high cieling, Its wood floor, walls with carpet on um and wood paneling on the walls too. you could play on card board and it would sound good. not only that but they put digital reverb on the tracks. If they really wanted to make a promo video they should have thrown those drums in a 10'x10' room with all concrete walls and then made it sound like that. If they did that I would really be considering buying these mics.suckyvid
dirtriderguy 3 years ago 2
Why would you put a mike in the bass and outside of it? That doesn't make any sense.
HendrixcommaMartin 3 years ago
yeah it does... the sound coming from the inside of the kick is really different from the one coming from the outside. lots and lots of sound engineers do that.
simonpca 3 years ago
Listen to Rush's Snakes And Arrows and you'll know why. Many engineers make drummers take the bass drum reso head off but guys like me prefer the reso head to be on the drum. It suits the sound we're aiming for. This way you can get the best of both.
godofdrums 3 years ago
My friend is in school for sound engineering and all his teachers tell him to do this
AWilliams7878 3 years ago
1 mic inside and one outside works AMAZINGLY!!, If you aim the inside directly where the beater hits, you can get an AMAZING amount of attack, and when you have a mic outside you get a lot more tone and a deeper sound, when you EQ and mix them together, you can create a pretty tight sound, good for solid rock sound.
BigWilleyStylz 3 years ago
gay. I can get a much better sound out my old set of nady's. does this guy even know what he's talkin about?
phillipmannrx7 3 years ago
what a load of crap. Drums sound pants. Kit drum was way to clicky. Couldnt hear what the drums really sounded like over that stupid backing track. I would like to hear the drums on there own with no backing track so you cant hide how crap these mics are.
kippafish 3 years ago 2
im not going to lie it was an amazing sound however i would of liked to see i bit better mic up of the ride symbol, but the video was not to informative
shootmenow1 3 years ago
the drumming suked
Sgtpeppers842 3 years ago
well the audix microphones sound great on that kit not gonna lie, but where are the micing techniques i was promised?
and technically you shouldent put a condensor on a kick because of there sensitivity, most condensors these days you can get away with it. it all varys each mic, keep in mind its already boosting the signal 80db via phantom power, being that close to a kick can be well over 120db, that plus 80 db is enough to ATLEAST clip, regardelss of its spl
fruityloopsgod 3 years ago
who gives a fuck he got like 8 free mics i would do it.
epiphone908 3 years ago
this video is way too biased. no thanks.
youxinxmotion 3 years ago
lame....
Pick your spots Les Camancho!!!
bazookascrew 3 years ago
who the hell posts a review video less than an hour after recieving the reviewed items?
dicks
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shredurfingersoff 3 years ago 2
he said the same thing guitar twice
drumbum12345 3 years ago
so the only technique i learned from this video would be how to promote audix i guess ........
adrian1103 3 years ago 10
this is just a promotional video for audix mics, it has no useful info. what a piece of crap.
timlaroche 3 years ago 5