@kcaj123456 Ukes learn fast that if the technique is done properly they better let themselves be thrown or they will get hurt. If the technique is NOT done properly then not so much.
Yes there is a nage and an uke. If the person doesn't know ukeme they can get hurt. Leaning ukeme is a skill. Some dojos do teach dancing so I guess you can call it choreographed but the self defense oriented ones don't. In my dojo we keep our hands up and our knees bent. :)
I was at this seminar! (In fact, that's me sitting in my gi against the far wall!) There were two long-haired fellows and one of them I'm fairly certain didn't pass, though I didn't know at the time which was which - very nice test, and congratulations.
Un peu de commentaire positif. C'est vraiment pas évident de réussir à bien déséquilibrer un partenaire en hanmi handachi. Le Juji Garami / Juji Nage est particulièrement bien réussi. Les techniques sont fluides et il y a déséquilibre. Cependant, je n'aime pas les attaques en Men Uchi de l'aikikai. Pourquoi pas un bon Tsuki ? Ça doit être plutôt intimidant de passer un examen devant Yamada Sensei ?
Amazed when I hear a martial artist without aikido experience make comments like these.I spent 17 years in wing chun with a direct lineage sifu and walked into an aikido dojo later in life. It took me about 20 minutes to figure out 3 things: 1) aikido attracts some pretty nice people, 2) these techniques are painful, effortless when done correctly, and potentially lethal, and 3) the best way to learn without getting hurt is to learn to be compliant with the techniques. Still true 8 years ltr!
I second HappyLizards, this is an exam, it would be poor form for the attackers (who all outrank him) to overpower him. This is an exam where you show you have mastered basic techniques, not a sparring match or a judo competition.
kcaj123456, you are assuming too much from an exam video. I've been training in aikido since 2001, and I assure you that a well-done technique is effective i.e. it blocks the attack. In my early training days I resisted some of the techniques and suffered injury - a fractured vertebrae, damaged wrists. The ukes aren't being compliant - they are following the techniques to protect themselves. By the way, what do you train in? Why do you train?
You have trouble paying attention, the first three benefits are physical.
Also note that I have been training in aikido (and discussing it online) for more than 10 years. I have trained and occasionnally "played" with people of varying experience in judo, karate, taekwondo, jujutsu, boxing (my sister was even a member of an MMA gym) as well as with profesional bodygards, police officers and soldiers. You should assume I know more about martial arts and their different goals than you do.
It's not just me, the founder, his heirs and his direct students (I've taken classes from a few) all describe the goal of aikido as about improving the self.
There is a lot more to aikido than "throwing compliant people around", as I've already indicated (see 2nd point above)
Through aikido I've:
-Stayed in shape, developed my center and ability to relax, learn to be relaxed and strong at the same time, reduced my aggression and improved my ability to connect with others on different levels.
Two wrong assumptions in your post. First, the goal of aikido is personal development and not application outside the dojo. That being said, you might be surprised how well how effective some aikidoka are against actual attacks.
2nd, your under the false idea that we never train with higher intensity and resistance than what you see in an exam. I know how to counter (and regularly do) every technique that I show in this exam. But once again, that's not really the goal of aikido.
1st, this is an exam. The point is to show you know the basic techniqes. 2nd, this is aikido and he's a partner and not an opponent. 3rd, it's a damn good thing he was being compliant considering he heavily outranks me (more than 10 years my senior in the art and about 3 dan ranks higher) and could easily counter anything I could come up with.
@kcaj123456 Ukes learn fast that if the technique is done properly they better let themselves be thrown or they will get hurt. If the technique is NOT done properly then not so much.
Yes there is a nage and an uke. If the person doesn't know ukeme they can get hurt. Leaning ukeme is a skill. Some dojos do teach dancing so I guess you can call it choreographed but the self defense oriented ones don't. In my dojo we keep our hands up and our knees bent. :)
insaneduane 1 year ago
I was at this seminar! (In fact, that's me sitting in my gi against the far wall!) There were two long-haired fellows and one of them I'm fairly certain didn't pass, though I didn't know at the time which was which - very nice test, and congratulations.
canajaneh 1 year ago
Un peu de commentaire positif. C'est vraiment pas évident de réussir à bien déséquilibrer un partenaire en hanmi handachi. Le Juji Garami / Juji Nage est particulièrement bien réussi. Les techniques sont fluides et il y a déséquilibre. Cependant, je n'aime pas les attaques en Men Uchi de l'aikikai. Pourquoi pas un bon Tsuki ? Ça doit être plutôt intimidant de passer un examen devant Yamada Sensei ?
tenbinnage 1 year ago
Amazed when I hear a martial artist without aikido experience make comments like these.I spent 17 years in wing chun with a direct lineage sifu and walked into an aikido dojo later in life. It took me about 20 minutes to figure out 3 things: 1) aikido attracts some pretty nice people, 2) these techniques are painful, effortless when done correctly, and potentially lethal, and 3) the best way to learn without getting hurt is to learn to be compliant with the techniques. Still true 8 years ltr!
awookah 2 years ago
@kcaj123456 I'd have to say that aikido is probably not for you...though it is open house at our dojo this week ;-)
FriendlyBotanist 2 years ago
I second HappyLizards, this is an exam, it would be poor form for the attackers (who all outrank him) to overpower him. This is an exam where you show you have mastered basic techniques, not a sparring match or a judo competition.
FriendlyBotanist 2 years ago
kcaj123456, you are assuming too much from an exam video. I've been training in aikido since 2001, and I assure you that a well-done technique is effective i.e. it blocks the attack. In my early training days I resisted some of the techniques and suffered injury - a fractured vertebrae, damaged wrists. The ukes aren't being compliant - they are following the techniques to protect themselves. By the way, what do you train in? Why do you train?
FriendlyBotanist 2 years ago
You have trouble paying attention, the first three benefits are physical.
Also note that I have been training in aikido (and discussing it online) for more than 10 years. I have trained and occasionnally "played" with people of varying experience in judo, karate, taekwondo, jujutsu, boxing (my sister was even a member of an MMA gym) as well as with profesional bodygards, police officers and soldiers. You should assume I know more about martial arts and their different goals than you do.
HappyLizards 2 years ago
It's not just me, the founder, his heirs and his direct students (I've taken classes from a few) all describe the goal of aikido as about improving the self.
There is a lot more to aikido than "throwing compliant people around", as I've already indicated (see 2nd point above)
Through aikido I've:
-Stayed in shape, developed my center and ability to relax, learn to be relaxed and strong at the same time, reduced my aggression and improved my ability to connect with others on different levels.
HappyLizards 2 years ago
@kcaj123456
Two wrong assumptions in your post. First, the goal of aikido is personal development and not application outside the dojo. That being said, you might be surprised how well how effective some aikidoka are against actual attacks.
2nd, your under the false idea that we never train with higher intensity and resistance than what you see in an exam. I know how to counter (and regularly do) every technique that I show in this exam. But once again, that's not really the goal of aikido.
HappyLizards 2 years ago
@kcaj123456
1st, this is an exam. The point is to show you know the basic techniqes. 2nd, this is aikido and he's a partner and not an opponent. 3rd, it's a damn good thing he was being compliant considering he heavily outranks me (more than 10 years my senior in the art and about 3 dan ranks higher) and could easily counter anything I could come up with.
HappyLizards 2 years ago
Good job! You look confident and unflappable.
friendlymil 2 years ago
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friendlymil 2 years ago
Congrats!
dAlen7 2 years ago
Good exam, thanks for posting!
FriendlyBotanist 2 years ago