Modern Autobody Repair Techniques

[sadiesmommy1611]

old school retard

[MrJoeDrager]

This video is useless. Everyone on here is already a fucking expert.

[Richierich1285]

you wanna lick the bowl

[Pookatube]

Is aluminum flashing with alumaloy a better alternative to bondo in rust repair?

[josue93091]

#1 you dont put mud over paint

#2 you dont use a putty spatula to lay mud (spreader buddy)

#3 it was hardening up on you

#4 it was driping every where

YOU SUCK!!!!

[FABRIC8TIONUNLIMITE1]

OH MY GOD , Maako / earl shibe body work. s.m.h That's what's wrong with America, people want a job done as fast and as CHEAP as possible. Not much is done RIGHT any more, QUALITY of work suffers so PAY suffers so ECONOMY suffers. The tittle should read (Modern Autobody Repair MISTAKE's)

[greyshell77]

Ok I have a question. why do all these body guys on the interenet keep slathering bondo on all over the place OVER the original paint job!?!? I plan to media blast and bring my car down to bare metal everywhere before body work. Why are people doing sculpted body work right over the paint job? Is that ok? It seems liek a poor idea - especially since your just going to have to buzz it all down later to re-paint the car..... unless you just paint over it? yikes. I need to learn more.

[iReVoDesigns]

And why are you using a wallpaper scraper. -_-

[iReVoDesigns]

WTF is aloominum?

[tutu916]

he's like the bob ross of body repair!!

[Jx1x3]

This old timer is good. Mixing well, appliying well, and good video all together.

[jw200]

What the hell is "bondo"?

[ibanez1403]

@jw200 The body filler



[neutronstar64]

just read all the comments on here,one thing i've learnt in the past 23 years as a bodyman is "each to his own" everyone has their own way of working to reach the same end result,a perfectly shaped, shiny polished repair that the customer is happy with and pays for!,most bodyshops couldn't care less if it splits/cracks in 3 months as long as they've been paid,because they know it won't come back to them!it usually comes to me to be done properly!lol,so all you lot arguing makes me smile.

Danny.

[greyshell77]

@neutronstar64 If you do a decent job.not super pro, but not sloppy-stupid. And you keep the car in a garage. About how long on average would you say it takes before problems start showing up? I know its kind of a wacky question. I'm going to try to do some of my own auto body - hopefully with as little body filler as possible.

[neutronstar64]

@greyshell77 of course that depends on lots of other factors too,( climate when used, how often used moisture in the air/paint when sprayed etc)if all the rust isn't removed paint can start to blister in as little as 3 weeks, i always remove as much rust as poss,i'm not a big fan of " rust convertors", if ALL the rust is removed and bare metal etched/zinc primed,and then quality materials are applied properly,there's no reason it won't last for years,it's essentially a "new" car! have fun!

Dan.

[ACLTony]

Body filler shouldn't be applied thicker than 1/4" . Any thicker and it could crack later. Rule of thumb for hardener: 1" to 2" inches for every golf ball sized amount of filler. Re: Cardboard, especially the type used for boxes, contains oils and adhesives inside. When the cream hardener is applied to the filler, heat is produced. In some cases it will draw out the oils/adhesives inside of the cardboard which can contaminate your body filler mixture, whether polyester or epoxy based.

[misskels1056]

@ACLTony wow your a dumbass, work in a body shop someday, btw im not the mud man, im the metal man

[ACLTony]

@misskels1056 - Excuse me son, why the nasty language? I've run a body shop, very successfully. I never called you a mud man and was referring to the use and abuse of polyester body filler. 

[madpuppy100]

The heading of this video is "Modern Autobody Repair". Uhmmmm, maybe thirty years ago. LMAO!!

[Tabiie420]

thx



[panchonchon]

don't use a cardboard because i don't know lol



[supercolorsautobody]

no mame señor es usted bien pendejo para este trabajo qe manera mas pendeja de aplicar bondo

[jizzmonkeyoncrack]

omg its not called bondo its called body filler bondo was just a brand of body filler and they dont make anymore

[lildoughboy21]

@jizzmonkeyoncrack Its like saying vise grips when they are called locking pliers...

[yasafusa]

@jizzmonkeyoncrack actually, it's a company called "Bondo" they still makes loads of stuff... Including their body filler called "Bondo"

[MrJsowa]

@jizzmonkeyoncrack uhhh yes they do.......where do you get your info...

[Hkhan23]

lol shade tree body men lolol

[lovemybabygirl99]

LMAOF aren't you supposed to fix the dent first?

[choda88bre]

you need a lot of practice you dont even know to do this ahahaha.....I doing that for last 3 years i can show you how to do that... xD sorry bad english...

[asantos84]

the american way of working on cars rivets and bondo.. jesusssss buy this dvd and learn exactly what NOT TO DO.

[uncio84]

Tak sie tynkuje baranie a nie szpachluje auto!!!!!!!!!!!!! Najebales tego,ze az strach...

[legionamon]

happy trees...



[legionamon]

a nice shade tree 0.0

[damiadetekura]

1:27 He says "M`kay?"

[gideon001]

mixing on aluminium is ill advised unless you are filling an aluminium panel. you are picking up stray filings of aluminium in te bondo and then spreading the bondo on sheet metal. when aluminium contacts steel it reacts and causes galvanic corrosion. this repair is going to rot itself right off the car in a year or so. also its advisable to feather your paint before you add filler because with filler t the paint line like this guy, prepping is gonna be hell

[madpuppy100]

@gideon001 !00% correct!

[gideon001]

@madpuppy100 thank you

[unicusDOTcom]

I used clear liquid hardener in the past, works just as well. Pick and file is the best way to repair. Mud is the easy way out.

[Handsx]

in the first 4 seconds i think hes drunk...

[theonesketch]

no sealer?

[dynobot7]

it looks like ice cream from coldstone! i want to eat it now...

[robotmotor]

where is the part 2 ! and the website close !

[habbousa01]

Can you put Body Filler over Body Filler?

Because When i was putting on body filler, it was drying fast. And i put more over it when it was dry. Is this okay?

[Mentorracine]

@habbousa01 Did you sand/scuff it or cheese grade it?

[habbousa01]

@Mentorracine I sanded it. Then it was still to short, so i put more body fill over the dry body fill. Then i sanded it again and now its even. Is this okay?

[freakyflow]

@habbousa01 Putting bondo over bondo is fine long as it isn't too thick you don't want 3" of bondo on a panel After putting on the first coat of bondo file it flat if theres still a pit or dent let it fully dry then add your 2ed coat as long as your 1st bondo coat has scratches in it for the new bondo to grab too

[habbousa01]

@freakyflow Its not close to 3". Haha, its pretty slim. But its sanded smooth now. Thanks for the help.

[freakyflow]

@habbousa01 Awsome good luck

[kihe43]

haha "boy im sure saying okay alot today okay any wayz" haha

[cellplato]

your bodywork days are over grampa :p

[6wroberts]

i always put on a bit more than needed so i dnt have to keep puting more on

[thetwistofcain]

LICK THE BONDO!

[mitchellboomphi]

I never helped my mom make cakes.

[Jimmywatches]

I watched this because the title said 'modern' - 'bondo' (what we Brits call 'filler' or 'P38') isn't exactly revolutionary!

But I still enjoyed it cos that guy is cool, very relaxing to watch, no need to hate on him :-)

[MarryDoYouWanna]

MMM, what about shrinkage ? Please tell me im wrong , lol you tryin to tell me your work wont show in a few months ? Hey im just a rookie ....

[MarryDoYouWanna]

Actually I just finished a Metallurgy and structural Disign course with ICAR , its true in the begining there courses sucked , your absalutly right I did one about 15-16 years ago cost me 50 bucks for one night , How to hold a hammer , yep I was pissed swore Id never take another course agian , Im only doin em now cause my company pays for them and now its all different because of the demand from alot of pissed customers made . Learned alot about hybrid design , it was worth it .

[MarryDoYouWanna]

Sorry I can see by your video that youve got 36 yrs , Soooooo sorryyyyyyy , Same amount shit for brains ! Oh whats the name of your shop ? Macco ?

[DonaldRossini]

more metal work less bondo. and this is a clip from a repair dvd? is that why everyone is doing it wrong?

[MarryDoYouWanna]

@DonaldRossini You got Donald this guy is a real pro , LMFAO This guy would last about 30 min in my shop , He has absolutely no formal training , And he's a dumb ass !

[YouSpamTard]

@MarryDoYouWanna The temperature affects how much hardener is applied. Also, you could not go on, well I guess you could go on and on, but it is all just rambling because obviously you know shit about anything that is going on here in this video, be it good or bad.

[MarryDoYouWanna]

@YouSpamTard Umm and you learned that from you next door neighbor right ? And you have 20 more years doing heavy collision repair on top of a 5 yr apprenticeship than me right ? You can explain overall incination to me ? or what datum is and how to apply it ? Can you explain how to repair HSS Steel ? or straighten an Ultra high strenght rail ? well cmon tell me you dumb ass ! Or tell me how many advanced ICAR course youve taken ? Yep your a Butcher, oh the bondo cracks over time !

[YouSpamTard]

@MarryDoYouWanna I have been doing this stuff for 36 years. I have been building totals for the last 20. I can explain all of it. I own my own shop. Frame specs, clipping cars, how to deal with insurance adjusters, how to run a business, pay bills, etc etc I know all of it. The original point was, when its 115 degrees F in my shop, I use less bondo hardener than when its lets say 32 degrees F in my shop. If you have not realized this yet, you know shit about anything. Dumb ass.

[MarryDoYouWanna]

@YouSpamTard  ya and Im sure you know about bleed thru .......... enough said

Oh what ICAR Branch you deal with ? Thats if youve ever taken ICAR , hahahahah.... I noticed you can't answer any of my questions BUTCHER !

[YouSpamTard]

@MarryDoYouWanna ICAR is bull shit. All schools are bullshit. The way one learns is to learn from an old man, such as me, that has spent his life doing it. Get in the business, sweeping floors if you have to at first, then learn what you can from those around you. Then go to another shop and learn what you can from those around you. Bleed through you ask? What the hell is bleed through? Dumb ass. I have seen all sorts of chemicals "bleed thru". Be more specific rookie. Ego trip. Dumb ass. Sheesh

[MarryDoYouWanna]

@YouSpamTard Too much hardener will bleed thru , I thought that was the chemical we were talking about , Alzheimer's or Armature which one are you ?

[YouSpamTard]

@MarryDoYouWanna To much hardener will not bleed through if both are mixed correctly. It the hardener is old and somewhat dried up, there may be some chunks in the hardener that do not catalyze with the bondo. If this is the case, one needs to dig out the small chunks of hardener and make another wipe. Regardless, after urethane primer is applied, the minute bits will be so buried they will never show their silly red spot faces. Typically, nothing that is properly catalyzed will bleed through.

[jeromeb619]

WTF can he say a few word with out studdering

[UnderMediKated]

I use stainless drywall knives of different widths.

[brandonzeppieri217]

shake rattle and roll baby

[montagefan0000]

so u only need a rele small bit of hardener?

[ideffinkno]

Wait....

So you lick the Bondo??LMFAO =D

[98navihater]

atleast its not mmmk lol

[50N1C800M]

nice video! ok? lolol

[TroubleDouble123]

Is this in intro on how to apply drywall or bondo... lol. It's a nice vid, but he is not using a spreader worth anything.

[iPaintChipsi]

The heat was more likely the reason for the sag in the filler. Filler, especially the skim coat types, get "runny" in warmer weather. It looked like he was applying icing or something similar.

[spartandx]

i sure ok a lot... ok lol

[reecieboii]

i laughed at that too :)

[cacope1]

i would most definately not lick the bowl after mixing bondo. you dont mix it on cardboard because it is absorbant and will take the solvant from the body filler, probably not a huge issue but that's why you aren't supposed to. btw, screw this cagonesss guy a couple comments below. the reason it costs so much is because if you actually want it done right its worth it, i'd like to see some of his "work"

[cagonesss]

and you can kiss my ass ripoffs.fuck shops and repairers you all are thieves and wolves specially to women who know nothing about cars.glad i can do anything on cars and dont need ripoffs like you.losers.

[warham4567]

Lolz ^-_-^

[cagonesss]

you know you pay shops to change your tire you loser.lol your mom is your dad and your dad is your mom.homo

[diaz4sho]

wow. somebody is unhappy with their life...

[BSACAPITAL]

I don't know anything about autobody repair, but I thought he did a nice job.

For someone like me it was informative.

[maninabox8821]

ok,OK

[SY1WEK]

this guy is improvising as he speaks, lame

[barthoedemaker]

I hate people who apply insane thick layers of bondo! It's same as car rape.

[SS4769]

lol

[EYEReive]

LMFAO

[IceBox3]

@barthoedemaker

I hate people, who use the word "hate" too often.

[Tallon86]

wouldnt have to take half of it off, if he wouldnt put so much on to begin with. and try feathering your paint out a little more so your not sanding to the level of the paint

[LowRida5]

The man can barely put a sentence together, Omfg. I hate this video.

[ghostma13]

lol i put the wrong vid for a reponses,oh mix that shit together in a bowl and lick it yummy bondo

[tjf4375]

Mmm, not sure I agree with that technique. I've always been taught lots of thin layers are better than globbing it on like this. You can see with the amount he's putting on, it's starting to sag with the weight of the filler.

[zodiacfml]

its alright, better than too much of it than less.

[BetoG34]

he is old school, its better. old schoolers used to repair pars that modern guys would replace.

[jeradhoy424]

hey i think he needs a shade tree lol

[sykiraa]

bad, bad, bad

[smile96778]

bondo is too thick..theres certain limit for thickness of bondo..it should be around 1/8 inches thick

[huffinpaint]

Inch thick or it wont stick!!!! LOL

[transilvanianson]

wat dose that hav to do with wat he said he said somthing bout old school not bondo looks lik someone else is the dumb ass u bumb ass

[lowriderguy01]

my bad i replyed to the wrong guy

[ASCEND2ETERNITY]

Actually, bodyfiller is acceptable by ICAR standards up to 1/4 inch. I have my certifications, and go back every 4 years. He's not necessarily putting the filler on wrong, even if it is 1/2 inch or more. By the time he's filed his filler with a " cheese grater " and DA' ed the filler, he's probably right around a quarter inch when he starts to block his filler.

[crazysJPw]

lol he put way to much but he is very old school and old school ways

[stimpy12000]

wont be buying this video any time soon.its a waste of time.totally agree with eric

[eric8604]

and that guy is using way too much filler...filler should be no more than 1/8" thick you can tell he is old school....old school way to do it if more is good even more is better

[buerm009]

Like he said, he used that much for shaping. Look at the pannel before he starts to spread the mud, there is no major low spot. Also, half comes off when you "cheese grate" it. Which means 36 grit, probably on an air file or long board. It WONT be more than an 1/8" and depending on the type of filler used, it can be thicker than 1/8".

[ted850760]

@buerm009 I agree with you post ..he's doing a good job as you indicated..a 'cheese grater' is the tool you can see on his cart early in the video

[ASCEND2ETERNITY]

In most cases, not all. I'm sure that at some point you have filled a repair area that goes beyond an 1/8 inch.

[04cscholes]

yep listen to him and you cant go far wrong as its the wright way!

[30129ss]

right

hehe

[JDMhatch2009]

great job ---OK!!!!---

[eddyjawed]

This guy is great, he's teaching right, even though he keeps saying OK alot.

[willsonnss]

good & useful

[1ToNJaB]

would it be cheaper to replace a panel? if you were able to recycle the old panel than hydro-press, stretch-form or rubber-press a whole new panel- in house. ?

[ted850760]

@1ToNJaB 1/4 panel-$450,25 hrs to rplace vrs $40 worth of material and 3hrs labor ...you do the math

[berkeleyyy]

Good Job Jeff !

[Jackinfe]

Im going to be taking Collision Repair Technology at New Market, and just wanted to see if anyone one could give me some tips.

-thanks

[gravekilla]

how do you clean the tools

[AWCPRODUCTION]

water.

[gravekilla]

i tried that when it is hardened

[crezzyman]

Try sanding it off. If it's on a metal scraper, you can just sand it off or grate it off. If it's on plastic, do the same, but be more careful when you get down close to the plastic to make sure you don't sand through it.

Like he said, you can just grind it down and start over, so just grind it off the tools. Works for me.

[gravekilla]

cool thank you so much

[grungeguy45]

use thinners. it will come off in seconds. thats shop procedure. after using your scrapper, let it sit in thinner.

[destruktionofmodev]

@AWCPRODUCTION

if you use water to clean your tools what kind of bondo are you using?

washable bondo?

As far as im concerned you use thinner or acetone.

[95steveexplorer]

@gravekilla to clean the tools u wait until the bondo hardens on it then it comes of real easy..ignore the dumbass below

[chefkdowg]

"i sure ook alot dont i ... ok here we go ok"..... MUMMMM KK

[CoolasIce2]

Like he said, there's no difference using cardboard.

[danielkabuto]

cardboard has little fibers that stick to the plastic filler.(aka bondo)

[AWCPRODUCTION]

he's mixing the filler on a sheet of aluminum, not cardboard.

[MBL0CKG]

@AWCPRODUCTION @danielkabuto he was saying thats y ppl say not to use cardboard

[lainey500]

cardboard being pourous takes the resin out the filler

[AWCPRODUCTION]

he's mixing on a sheet of aluminum, not cardboard.

[lainey500]

that not a cross contamination between alli and steel (body)??

[GammaXI07]

This video is f'ing amazing. I'll get me some sand paper and some "bondo" and get to work. A Whole Lot lol

[hsvplayboy]

Well Done Mate This Helped Me Out Thanx Again From The Downunder