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  • I must say playing infantry you really do just forget the jets are even there they pose no real threat while in reality when mr Taliban hears a f-22 or a tornado burning overhead I'm sure he pays full attention to its existence! I wanna be in a scenario where the jets fly over and I shit myself xD

  • I wish the thunderbolt could have two other seats one as bomber and the other as copilot

  • @MonsterrDrankk34 In the February Patch there is going to be a BattleRecorder.

  • Napalm Bombs! :D

  • Rocket pods fill the shoes of dummy bombs

  • Air to air missiles are pointless. Most people have chaff and they reload too quick. Use guns on other aircraft as theyre quicker kill too if you hold fire lulling them into thinking their tail is clear, then fire when they level off to spot.

  • Mann what happened to armies using carpet bombs, did the russians get too drunk and forgot about it, and did the americans got so fat they ate the blueprints for it along with their food? :(

  • u found the cahnges yet?

  • it takes a lot of practice & skill to become an effective jet pilot. for an average player (like me), yo get maybe 2 kills. which doesnt help the team win at all. so i just stay out of jets.

  • You could just use rocket pods, that's an option for jets.

  • they should change the sensitivity on the jets, that's all, maybe the dummy bombs would be a good idea

  • I dont why in saying this but my jet set up is air radar extinguisher and guided missiles and i play rush in conquest i use the same thing but i put on heat seekers.

  • i want dummy bombys and 2 man jets back! it was alot easier to bomb with a dedicated bombadier. and the stuka back in 1942 with its double bombs was godly

  • They should just put in more jets but the new ones be for bombiing

  • i cant get any points for goddamn jets and im stuck trying to kill stuff with the jets machine guns and it sucks!!! any advice??? :)

  • @staggus are u trying to destroy ground targets? if your are ground targets are really hard to hit in a jet try and go for enemy helicopters or jets when your up agaisnt jets dont shoot until u know your going to hit them and heliopters go very slow and start shooting once you think u have the shot......just dont slam into the heli ive done that many times

  • @sicospartan2011 air targets mostly but i find hitting anything with the guns impossible! also are the non default controls for jets/heli's any easier?

  • @staggus i like the default controls best and just hit air targets till u get the rocket pod or guided missle then go for ground targets and if you have to use your guns then SLOW DOWN u wont hit them if your going to fast....unless you hit a pole (i cant see the damn things when im flying)

  • @TWTHEREDDRAGON great vids! what are you using for recording?

  • Heat seekers are for scrubs the gun is the way to go.

  • you're using heatseekers instead of rocketpods, your opinion on jets is worthless.

  • Joystick for x-box would be awesome :))

  • Fuck dummy bombs and any k/d baseraping whore who wants them.

  • Yeah, I miss bombs. But rocket pods aren't bad iether, it's just that I always crash when I attempt to use them

  • Shouldn't the title read: I miss the jets in BF2?

    Red says he doesn't like BF3 jets..

  • If you want dumb bombs back you must be dumber than the bombs. :|

  • You deserve more view... Plain and simple.

  • when Im playing with friends a lot of the time when I fly the jet, I have my friends use stingers to take down all the air armor and thus in turn I dont spend most of the game circling around with another jet. once thats not an issue, I can easily take out ALL of the ground armor. this becomes a huge advantage to your team.

  • And yes we have guided missiles and rocket pods but they're weaker than hell

  • We need some sort of cluster bomb or dummy bomb or even napalm hell I think that'd be cool

  • Jets already have rocket pods, which are very effective against ground targets. I assume you mean "dummy bombs" for carpet bombing? The problem with that is countering. Jets are already very tough for ground units to shoot down. Even average pilots can outmaneuver stinger lock-ons. If you give jets more firepower to infantry, you gotta give infantry more ways to take out jets. It's a difficult balance, one that already currently favors the pilots to be honest.

  • They need to add the dum bombs or and least give the guided missles a buff

  • I agree with you on the dummy bombs,and they do have guided missles as a unlock for jet that lock on and hit ground units but you need to lock on to something and can't just drop them over a effective area to do damage,and not for nothing most of the time the guided missles miss and if they do hit they just " disable the tanks,and trust me they miss most of the time so either way you do 2 or 3 passes just for one tank kill,but if you have rockets you can spam like 50 of them and get kills,they

  • Saitek Aviator Xbox Joystick!! - Like so TRD can see this :D

  • Yeah I miss the bombs too. It would help on the consoles to get the players in the air more focused on what is happening on the ground. Although, I think out of the hundreds of bombs I dropped in the older games my kill:bomb ratio was probably 1:20.

  • so many things could have made this game better, such as ammo in the air vehicles and resupply over carrier or base, commander mode, squad leader role, higher player count, at least 32 on console, jet bombs, the mi28 havoc is way underpowered and slow compared to ah1z viper, LOTS of things to fix

  • absolutely correct, jets neeed to be able to do more damage to the ground 

  • Yeah, if they brought the JDAM into the game, that would be awesome.

  • Unlock guided missiles in the jet and you can handle ground units. Pilots that focus only on the air units are basically worthless.

  • @ortsed7 Well, they do prevent the enemy air units from being effective against ground targets. But yes it is kind of a waste.

  • how do u drive jets and helicopters?

  • i hope the fix knife assassination

  • Dont mean to sound bitter bc I love this game but I love when its a team trying to win, not when your own blue guys will shoot you down if you take their jet or you are on the carrier shooting down the hovering chopper and gonna jump in the spawn chopper when a douche comes & stands next to you to steal it from you? I don't get this intra-team wars for vehicles? Its not cool at all. What's cool is when you talk, your team works together & half of them aren't waiting for a jet, chopper or sniping

  • Most videos are against noobs or you guys play against 4 6 people on the other team who don't know what they are doing. That's clear bc no game is that easy except that type.

  • Id like BF3 to create a map thats all Jets and Choppers, etc, so that all those annoying game ruining morons that do NOTHING productive except annoy everyone by flying back and forth over the runway bombing empty jets and choppers before they take off. And those morons that hover the chopper behind the carrier in wait or loop in a jet until you take off and shoot you before you even take off. I miss BF3 without assholes.

  • Jet pilots are playing a different game. They don't really help out anyone else. Taking choppers out can be difficult as there's usually not enough time to lock on and when you do they just flare. It's nice if you can manage to take the helicopter out with a strafing run but that doesn't happen too often. For me, flying jets is a real SPM killer. As soon as I jump into one I feel like I detach myself from the whole action and I like to be in the thick of it.

  • Flying in core = no skill.

    3rd person view is for noobs.

  • i can se on your fighting skill that you arent a good pilot

    most of the pilots dont even use heat seakers they either use guided missiles

    or rocket pods

  • use rocket pods to git rid of tanks lolz

  • I think Dice made the controls awkward so that jets would be harder to fly.

  • I believe they left out dummy bombs on purpose because they felt they would make the jets overpowered.

  • i think the main problem of jets is that they are nearly useless against ground. so any kind of bomb would be an improvement of jets in my opinion

  • drop the heat seekers and get rocket pods, you'll get more action killing ground vehicles and infantry with rocket pods or even the gatling gun and just use the gun against aircraft, or rocket pod some hovering helicopters

  • i wish they made those 2-seats plane from bf2

  • I usually go around 18-1 in jets...Just use rockets pods for tanks, ifvs, and choppers...U'll be surprise how effective they are against choppers hovering...Shoot the other jets down..I mostly play conquest cause i find the attack jets just ridiculously easy mode on rush...They just rip apart everything and i was getting kills to easily...I like the way it is now with maybe a guided missile buff to a one hit disable so an organized team can take armor out with those instead of always using RPs..

  • Completely agree... bf3 has been a big disappointment for me, considering this is supposed to be a ''Sequal'' which it is not. All i hear in this game is beep beep beep beep, auto-lock weapons has made this game boring.

  • my best jet games are like 12-0 16-0. I have 745 jet kills here my 2 cents. The rocket pods need to be improved. If you want to focus on just air battles then use HS. I use rocket pods because I can take out jeeps, tanks, IFV, but the rockets need a little more pepper. The GM are trash I would never use those unless I have a teammate running SOFLAM. the jets are tuned well control very well, but are armed for mostly air battle. DICE; fix the rocket pods or the GM, heat seekers are fine.

  • Carpet bomb those bastards, yes!

  • WE NEED BOMBS DICE I WANNA DROP JDAM ON DA ENEMY!

  • all jets do is take two players off the battlefield. In a 12v12 game you can't afford to take people off the battlefield

  • Dice should also bring back the dog fight only game mode from 1944 i recall they had something like that, and i should be on Wake Island and have the Jets spawn on he ships like they use too.

  • To know what DICE should put in battlefield 3? Air superiority! Imagine just jets in a special map just like in battlefield 1943

  • People would spawn camp the Jets WAY MORE if there was a joy stick lol

  • I don't know if you know this, but a good technique for dodging missiles is to slow down and pull up, and then really quickly throttle up while doing either a tight left or right downward turn.

  • Dumb bombs need to come back. BF2 was so fun!!

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  • yeah dumb bombs would be nice. remembered then in Battlefield 2 although i would always suck and stick to the WSO in the F-15/Su-30

  • I love honest people. Thanks Red.

  • If we had local or private matches we could practice our flying.

  • @johnfalcon84 PC has that, AND theater they should make an update on consols

  • Good post! I just wish I could get off the ground. Be nice if they had some way to practice flying.

  • I think a Jets main role is to destroy enemy Helicopters and protect your own from enemy jets, because helicopters are what hurt your team the most from the air.

  • @godseagle911 but with bombs you could also be more of a team player by taking out tanks. A helicopter can take out a helicopter.

  • @godseagle911 That' and strafing the occational tank.

  • @godseagle911 I disagree, because jets do have bombs and such, and are more accurate that helis in my opinion. I think helis are more for defesive, while jets are for offensive. Helis such as the venom and little bird have simple miniguns on them, and some others, like the viper, have rockets, but due to the flying mechanic, it can be hard to aim, and rockets and bullets tend to spread more. However, in the jet, it is easier to get a clear aprroch on your target, and you have strafing too.

  • @godseagle911 Youd be surprised at how lethal a good jet pilot can be from the air with top down attacks using the rocket pods and the quick reload mini gun. This isnt a medium for me to show big my dick is on the internet but i can 9 times outta 10 rack up 20+ kills with jets on rush or conquest and get around 7 - 8000 points in vehicle destroys.

  • Haha its funny to Ram a enemy in a Helicopter with a jet and make them crash xD

  • i agree...the jet needs a main gun boost and bomb drop

  • @fooschmack some one can laser desig air targets for your guided missile... a little difficult

  • Check out my ideas for jets:

    //forums.electronicarts.co.uk/­battlefield-3/1465228-new-jet-­suggestion-thread.html

  • rpg and SMAW are way to underpowered, i shot an RPG at the floor next to one guy and he didn't die, this happens to me like 20 times a week

  • Bombs would be nice. Especially for the A-10... Kinda useless in rush (kharg islland)

  • Ditch the AA missles & use the main cannon against other air vehicles. It's much more effective since just about everyone has flares. Plus, you can use a weapon like Rocket Pods or Guided Missles to bust tanks & actually help your team.

  • Oh yes the bombs(: Soo many doubles and triples inn 1943(: Well I don't know what you think Red, but I think they should put in a two-seater bomber jet into the next expansion pack, or something of that sorrt.

  • aren't u getting tired of playing that 12 v 12 crap?

  •  i would like to see u commentating some dead island if u have the game lol

  • I completely agree. Whenever I'm in a jet (on Xbox), I know that for the most part I won't be participating in the main battle, but instead fighting air-to-air combat. That feeling might change a little once I unlock the guided missile, but that's only for vehicles. Unguided bombs (that say deal significant direct damage, without a large splash damage area of effect) would make me feel more useful as a jet pilot. Add more AA guns for balance and you've got yourself a fun game!

  • @fooschmack i like the idea on bf3 but on bf play4free and bf2 it was so fucking stupid they would spawn camp u and go 90-0 and just kill the other team its boring on both sides cuz the infantry on the other team had no 1 to fight cuz the 1 jet and the other team quit

  • Nice vid sir! How about a great big attachment for the thumb stick similar to control freaks that would serve as a "joystick"? Watching your vids makes me wanna smoke some stuff....

  • why are trees and poles OP in bf3? I go like 5-0 in a jet and then im tailing someone and a tree just fucks up my day.

  • i hate when idiots run head on in a jet and you see it comming and try to evade but is two late

  • They should bring back the bombing run from 1943 In my opinion :)

  • very nice video!!

  • I agree bring em back

  • U no what? I never hit anyone with that dang drop bomb on 1943 lol!

  • They sort of need more tungskas on console if they are implementing bombing as well...but the mobile aa guns are too powerful imo at the moment

  • Crap

  • i thought everyone who made good youtube videos were awesome at BF3.

  • I sub because you do BF3 videos on console, there seem to be many differences between console and PC. Many of videos are from PC, and can be misleading if you play on console. Playing conquest on console I can never find a mobile AA. I would love to see a video on the location of vehicles. Keep up the good work.

  • If Dice didn't add dummy bombs it's because in modern warfare they are pointless. Modern countries buy few guided missils which cost bilion of dollars but they do the same "work" as if it was hundred of dummy bombs.

  • I was a beast with dummy bombs on 1943, I'd like to see them back too

  • @TWTHEREDDRAGON Do you wish there was a variant of wake island for the update with each side on its own carrier and have the airbase the advantage with an extra plane like 1943 so it wasnt always conquest assault on console? Dummy bombs are great and you should try and get word out with other highly viewed members of youtube and we could possibly get it on the game...after all we did get bf3 on xbox just by asking.

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  • I definitely do not want to have more AA. There are plenty of ways to take down jets and by no means should they be so underpowered like they are now. On a normal caspian border or firestorm you have Mobile AA, Stationary AA, Soflams w/ javelins guided missiles, or stingers all of which require no skill and are extremely easy to use.

  • @xXgamer678Xx there are rarely mobile AA on consoles though.

  • Yes! Dumbly bombs all the way

  • jets always "do work" use rocket pods for air to ground and mini gun down all air vehicles

  • I really miss bombs from bf2

  • I play with my mouse! And trust me - that's fucking hard with a jet!!!

  • Here's a topic nobody dare mentions:

    WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH EVERYONE WANTING EVERYTHING TO BE "balanced?" WTF!!!

    WAR IS NOT FUCKING BALANCED. YOU EITHER HAVE AN ADVANTAGE, OR YOU FUCKING DON'T!!! AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ADVANTAGE, YOU'RE FUCKED. SO, YEAH REDDRAGON, BRING ON THE DUMMY BOMBS, I FIND YOUR POINTS VERY VALID AND I APPROVE OF YO CONDUCT!

  • @MrC12B1MAN CAP LOCK RAGE!! Its a GAME kid. Not "war."

    The reason nobody "dares" mentioning that topic is because the topic is ridiculous. The reason we as gamers want a video game to be balanced is because otherwise after a few months everyone will be using the same kit load-outs and tactics as the next gamer due to them getting their shit stomped in if they use a weaker kit setup. Yes war is not balanced but thats such a pointless argument when referring to a fucking video game.

  • Hey Red, While I do agree that Dumby bombs are a more satisfying anti ground weapon to use, Using a guided missile on jets and taking out air units with the nose cannon is a fantastic combo and can pin enemy teams in their spawn if they go for any vehicle.

  • Dummy bombs are just unrealistic for BF3. Both Russian and American airforces have abandoned them almost completely. Plus I am happy that aircraft have a more limited role in the newer battlefield games. I am so sick of games of battlefield 2 and 2142 where the match was decided by who could spawn kill vehicles the most.

  • Not to brag but i do get at least 11 kills in any jet map with 0 or little deaths and do help out my team by taking out vehicles on the ground. Just takes a little practice and some good tricks

  • I, too, liked Dummy Bombs in BF2. The addition of Guided Missile and Rockets, however, negates their necessity. I'd like them to up the splash damage on Rockets, and the direct damage on Guided Missile.

    Personally I'd like them to bring back 2-seater Jets... slower and less agile, but more heavily armed. A true fighter-bomber

  • How do you turn so fast!!!!??!?!?!?

  • @ItzAl3xiz Decrease the throttle to making sharper turns, increase throttle to make wider turns

  • but the planes in 1943 are good to fly

  • I love using guided missiles plus beam scanning. I always attack ground units and ignore other jets until they become a major threat to me. It's easy to kill infantry once you get the hang of it.

  • no not menny people are good in domyboms dropping XD

  • @Katkop013 Lol. Nice spelling dude

  • i dont use jets but i think they would greatly help the ground guys if they threw in bombs, or bunker busters to blow up buildings, since mortars no longer do anything to buildings. it seems like just flying around keeping other jets off me is the main point

  • Great video as always!

    I got into the battlefield scene with Bad Company 1 (which still is somewhat my favorite) so this is my first real experience with jets, but these dummy bombs sound great/strategic =). You mentioned Ace Combat, I've been trying to find a control style in BF3 which emulates the normal control style in AC, would you have any tips for picking an 'easy' control style?

    Can't wait to get into a jet after watching this vid.

    Take Care

  • heh, I have so many flying games, and the all use dummy bombs and such...they make jets a very valuable asset, rather than just jet.v.jet...

  • I quit flying in BF3 b/c stupid players kept ramming me in the air and on the ground while taking off. They don't even try and shoot you down, they just smash into you.

  • i wonder what expansion pack they're gonna make for battlefield 3? Like in bad company 2 they had vietnam. They should make a ww2 pack or battlefield 2142

  • Yea I think those dummy bombs would be good. It would make strafing runs a lot more effective and occur a lot more often making the game in a way more realistic. Though as you said if you put more AA batteries or AA tanks it would make it balanced because you got to fly pretty low to be accurate with those bombs so if your low your an easy target for AA. Yes I definitely think they should go in. Also what's that random bump or shake when you fly? Is it turbulence.

  • I use rocket pods over heat seekers.

  • @crltnkr i do on rush caspian border. u can get ridiculos kills on tanks ;)

  • Any map with jets I fly around and sing "I believe i can fly"

  • i have a joystick i play with it every night ;-)

  • K so well i didnt play any previous BF games xcept BF3 witch I am loving the only problems i have is snipers camping in the back on rush (attacking) and people waiting in the dead screen to spawn on vechiles. Keep the vids coming man love them. also spawn killing with jets is frustrating. :D

  • Go with guns over heat seekers, they don't warn the other pilot and can't be diverted

  • I miss the dummy bombs as well. Jets just fly around and fight each other. They don't really affect the battle on the ground like in BF2. I wish they also brought back the repair/reload by flying over the airfield. If you get disabled, there is pretty much no way to save the jet.

  • How the F**ck did you unlocked flares for Jets? ITs freaking hard using the main gun!

  • it is impossible to fly on consoles

  • The closest thing we got to that are guided missile

  • dummy bombs arent un realistic. planes drop bombs now but they are droped and guided by computer. planes do drop bombs though.

  • video gaming cheap? i think not!

  • Good idea I think dice should hear some of your ideas :)

  • I really can't see the point of flying around in the jets, heli's are different, but jets just seem pointless. If you have no one on the other team flying a jet, you are very limited in your impact of what's going on below. Dumb bombs sound like a great solution!

  • i get in a jet and suicide it into usaly a helicopter or tank and if im lucky another jet of course all being enimies i have spent 23+ hours in a jet and i only have 36 points toward the FIRST unlock since i bail out before hitting

  • Have you ever considered making another endwar video soon. Just as a one off?

  • Is the radar bottom left new?

  • @CrazyBunnyPictures It is an upgrade you can attach - Air Radar - I love it! You should try it out

  • @CrazyBunnyPictures It's an unlockable for the Jet. Really useful

  • I hated bombs on BF2 because of the spawn camping. I think they would be awesome because we have waaaay more AA options against them, and rocket pods/cannon will disable a tank in a first strafe run if you're lucky. In 1943 they kinda took skill.

  • @xx415pato7xx456 They should make things invulnerable in the spawn - that way you couldn't camp

  • @TWTHEREDDRAGON Yea I kinda agree, I wasn't so good back then. It's always good to get some justice on those chopper campers. It's ridiculous that scout helis or even transport choppers (with crew) can do more damage than a jet.

  • @TWTHEREDDRAGON @xx415pato7xx456 Should make things not able to shoot from spawn also if things there would be invulnerable. I'd guess it would take about 3 seconds when someone gets the idea to just bomb flags with a tank from spawn if the tank wouldn't die. Adding another AA-gun to spawn area where you can cover your own spawn only might work as well to limit the baseraping. It happens pretty often now even without the dummy bombs.

  • @TWTHEREDDRAGON if its like a certain spawn point about 2 seconds of invincibility would be nice at most but people call it BLASPHOMY!

  • @TWTHEREDDRAGON Hey drag... do you know why the AA gun at the spawn is invincible?

  • @pwnageness No - I think it should be able to be taken out though.

  • team mates and Soflam is nice for guideds.

  • agreed bombing in 1943 was so much fun best thing about it was when i would play chicken with another plane then pull up at the last second n drop bombs

  • I would really like to see the AA get nerfed that thing can take out freaken tanks and the damn Amtrak THE AMTRAK that thing took direct smaw hits and kept going. They need to really buff the mp7 and lower the damage on the famas. I hate to complain but I need to get this out.

  • I'd be happy to give away my guided missiles for some dummy bombs.

  • @Rekkamyssi You and me both

  • @TWTHEREDDRAGON What benefits do you think Air-Radar has over the other perks? Just curious, still trying to find out what perks I want to have on my jets :P

  • I miss the dummy bombs also.

  • they need to remove this vehicle disabled bullshit also the C4 is bugged as hell everytime i try to detonate c4 he throws another 1 down and 3 c4's will disable tanks but i die in 1 or 2

  • good vid

  • @MrBeresterk Thanks for watching! I appreciate you guys who watch and comment almost instantly...it is a little scary..but I'm still glad :-)

  • another game please

    not only bf3

  • @Obid95 lol - when I don't post Battlefield then I hear it from the other side....Veteran subscribers can tell you that I always jump around to different games.

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