Calvinism According to John Calvin ("From The Horse's Mouth" Series)

[FinalCountdown2Jesus]

I think that we shld be humble when studying the bible and be careful not to read things in or reject plain language just bc it doesn't sit right with us in our limited understanding things,,all of these vs indicate GOD knows and plans everything Isaiah 25:1, 46:10, 14:24, 41:4, 48:3, 55:11 psalm 33:11 his ways are higher than our ways,,,lets not forget,,,we must be careful not to contend against the word of GOD due 2 ignorance and with good intentions reject truth I dont know who is right

[RefutingCalvinism]

@FinalCountdown2Jesus I agree, we should be humble. We should also be willing to talk about the Bible without appealing to majority, synods, councils, "great" theologians, etc. We should also be able to discuss things openly without calling each other "heretics", etc. Unfortunately, for the most part, I have found that those who hold to Calvinism are not willing to do these things...

[FinalCountdown2Jesus]

Do Washer, Spurgeon, & MacArthur, claim to be Calvinist?

[RefutingCalvinism]

@FinalCountdown2Jesus Of course they do!

[Calvinism101]

Laughable! You fear Predestination rather than take comfort in it. Sad exchange. "The first man fell because the Lord deemed it meet that he should." That's correct and we are glad that God did. I wonder if you can see that and not only see it, but be thankful to God that He did decree Adam to fall. If you can't see God's glory in Adam's fall, then you know little or nothing of Calvinism and are not qualified to speak on it or the Scriptures.

[RefutingCalvinism]

@Calvinism101 When have I ever said, let alone in this video, that I "fear predestination rather than take comfort in it"? So, if I understand your position properly, you are thankful that the "god" of Calvinism made Adam fall and made the rest of humanity sinners because of his fall? So, you are "rejoicing in iniquity" then? Might want to read 1 Cor. 13:6. You don't sound too loving to me. Also, are you saying that ONLY CALVINISTS are qualified to speak about the Scriptures?

[Calvinism101]

@RefutingCalvinism So you can't see it? Adam, in his state of innocence, didn't have Christ or Heaven, but because of the fall and then redemption accomplished and applied, we have both for all eternity. Because of the fall, we no longer have access to the garden and we wrestle with sin all of our lives, nevertheless, we have it better than Adam ever did even before he fell: Rom 8:18. There is no substitution for the knowledge of Christ, just like Paul said: Phil 3:8.

[RefutingCalvinism]

@Calvinism101 You're joking, right? Please tell me that you are! Adam walked with God and new Him face to face. He was living in Heaven on earth! You're really telling me that God wanted all of this mess, all of this sin, all of this death, most of His creation going to Hell? And that He not only wanted it, but made it happen? WOW! And I'm the one who is usually called the "heretic"? You sir, are a blasphemer of the God of the Bible. Your "god" doesn't exist...

[mwilson70201]

You rightly said that Calvin got his doctrine from Augustine whom he quotes repeatedly in his writings Augustine got his ideas on predestination from the pagan philosopher Aristotle's book Metaphysics which says that God alone possesses determinance and every other creature can only do what he wills. Augustine was well studied in these matters and adapted these ideas to his own use. Starting from there he subjected the scriptures to this pagan idea, the power of this deception is remarkable.

[RefutingCalvinism]

@mwilson70201 Amen, I agree!

[iesquivel32]

I am really glad to have come across your videos. I believe that God has given me a free will to choose to serve Christ on a daily basis or not. I've been attending a church where the pastor recently stated that suicide has been forgiven at the cross thus if a Christian commits suicide he or she is forgiven. :( I didn't agree and ended up finding that this church I'm attending is being led by a calvinist pastor. Please point me to a church that believes what I read in my Bible. Thank you.

[RefutingCalvinism]

@iesquivel32  Praise God! Just let me know where you live and I will see if I can find a good Church for you in your area...

[tgillspy2]

Calvinism is very cultic ....signed a christian who hates error.....!

[ricpret23]

I listened to men like tim conway, paul washer, john piper and I would have to say that tim conway is a well rounded preacher. He actually speaks against calvinism. But I,m skeptical about paul washer and john piper because they hold to some doctrines that are dangerous. I wonder if the holy spirit is really working through these men. Because if your a true prophet of God your preaching should agree with the bible.

[RefutingCalvinism]

@ricpret23 I think that you need to look into Tim Conway a little more and a little deeper. He "speaks out of both sides of his mouth". I know a brother who has spoken to him and the people of his Church many times. They say things like God ordains the abortion of unborn children for His glory. That's really bad!

[Smaskens133]

Amen to the great quotes from Calvin! :)

[kovenant7]

I believe its possible for people to have a wrong view of predestination due to an improper use of harmenuetics in their studying but still have a love for God and His word even true grace although they might have a misconception of Gods grace. Seems to me Calvin was in error on some of his assumptions but did support fundamentals such as conversion , Christ sacrifice and so on. I believe people shouldnt claim titles but rather say specifically the doctrine they hold to ....less confusion

[RefutingCalvinism]

@kovenant7 Yes, it is possible. There must be "a line drawn in the sand" though. You can't offend God's holy character anymore than to say that all things that happen are ordained/decreed/predestined by Him. I have almost no doubt that Calvin will be in Hell. He was a wicked man with wicked doctrines and God sends such people to Hell.

[hemet92544]

Hey Ker, how about a video asking Cavinist men, if your child was murdered, would you say to your wife that God preordained it? if so, how would that fly with her? Matthew 19:13 Mark 9:37 Mark 10:13-15 Luke 18:16 Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

[ExaminingCalvinism]

@ RefutingCalvinism "...independently of His will, nothing could be." So there is only 1 independent thinker in the cosmos, and all else are the subjects upon whom the 1 independent thinker carries out His thoughts, with omniscience at stake, for God could not otherwise *know* what anyone would think next, if He did not *determine* what they would think. Ask a C: Could God know what any random demon would think next, if God did not otherwise determine what they would think next? C's answer: No.

[ProfNewc]

Fully agree on Calvinism on all levels. You might also look into the connections between Augustine and neoplatonism (he was a Roman rhetorician, they were neoplatonists), many ideas from Greece that contradict scriptures, then also one step forward to Beza (Calvin's protege) who started TULIP in response to Arminius' rejection of his more Augustinian forms of Calvinism. Neither were correct, so they argued on both sides of a false idea, lapsarianism.

A thousand problems with Calvin. God Bless

[jamaicanification]

Bro its interesting because im in a bit of a controversy with some in my church(including my pastor) over Calvinism. My pastor told me to read ephesians 1-2, Romans 9 and John 6. It was all well and good but they seem to ignore the book of Hebrews for instance that warns new believers of falling back to Judaism. Thanks a lot anyways this helps :)

[RefutingCalvinism]

@jamaicanification Sorry to hear about that. You're welcome. This play list of videos might be helpful to you as well: /view_play_list?p=6AD5F26D50ED­9AD9

[MrTruthSword]

@refutingcalvinism I cannot understand how Calvinists can definitively state God chooses certain individuals for eternal life when Acts 10:34 states God is no respecter of persons. That would lead one to conclude that not even one single person was ever predestined to eternal life, since all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God. It is illogical for Calvinists to assume any sinner was ever chosen for salvation when Peter said God has no respect for any one person, including John Calvin

[RefutingCalvinism]

@MrTruthSword Amen! According to John Calvin, "god" predestined people to be saved or damned BEFORE they ever sinned. Then, "god" predestined everyone to sin...and not just "sin" in a general sense, but sin in EVERY SPECIFIC sense.

[willyindep]

From what Ive read, Arminianism is the oppsoite of Calvinism. In your opinions, is this the correct view? If not, what is?

[RefutingCalvinism]

@willyindep No, Arminianism is not the opposite of Calvinism. Arminianism stills holds to the gnostic/calvinistic doctrine of original sin/sinful nature/born sinners. The Bible is the opposite of Calvinism. There is no "ism" name for it. If you want to know the opposite of Calvinism, then you can watch my videos against it.  In short, the opposite of Calvinism would believe in: free will/natural ability, developed sinful nature (not born with), Christ died for all...

[RefutingCalvinism]

@willyindep ...conditional security, corporate election, exhaustive foreknowledge, God wanting all to be saved, etc. Arminianism holds to many of these things, but not all of them. Arminianism still has a remnant of Calvinism in it. Most Arminians believe in the Penal Substitution view of the atonement as well...which is a Calvinistic view of the atonement.

[Mkvine]

It seems like John Calvin contradicted himself. Calvin says that "according to his own wisdom, he decreed what he was to do..." Then he says "But since he foresees future events, only by the reason of the fact that he decreed them to take place...." First, Calvin attributes God's decree to his knowledge (wisdom), then he attributes God's foreknowledge according to his decree. Unless a Calvinist want's to say they occur simultaneously, then I see this as a contradiction.

[MrBrendaneoin22]

The thing that I find I can't get away from is the fact that God has to know by definition who goes to heaven and who goes to hell in order to be God. What's more is that it seems if you were to grant that it would be reasonable to assume that it was Gods will for some to go to heaven and others to go to hell. This has really being troubling me and iv been asking myself if this is so does this not make God unjust??

[RefutingCalvinism]

@MrBrendaneoin22 Watch this video: /watch?v=NQDWLB2oV7U

[Xeonxtreme]

:) well done on this part! WE are called to be Christians, the word of God is superior to the teaching of men. May God through Christ Jesus continue you in the faith and Spirit of truth.

[MrBrendaneoin22]

Didn't realize Tim Connway was a Calvinist.

[RefutingCalvinism]

@MrBrendaneoin22 He sure is!

[plumbwild]

@RefutingCalvinism I guess that's why the Bible says they are wolves in sheep's clothing, many can't see them for what they are.

[RefutingCalvinism]

@plumbwild Very true friend. In my opinion, all of the inconsistent Calvinists talk out of both sides of their mouth...

[wecanovercomesin]

Great short video. Hope some are set free by this.

[dgc3163]

I used to love Paul Washer, Tim Conway, MacArthur, Ray Comfort, Todd Friel, etc. until I found out they're ALL Calvinists. I never knew they were cause they never sound like Calvinists, as they're always putting the responsibility for our salvation on us rather than on God, as it should be. So they don't seem to understand or even preach what they allegedly believe, unlike James White who does sound like a Calvinist. I'm very confused about these men. Do you think they even understand Calvinism?

[RefutingCalvinism]

@dgc3163 Last I heard, Ray Comfort denied he was a Calvinist.  He does have LOTS of Calvinists working at Living Waters though, and he does promote/hang out with LOTS of Calvinists. No, I don't think that most people know what Calvinism actually is. Paul Washer definitely seems confused about it, as does Todd Friel. Not sure about Conway and MacArthur. Either way, they are all inconsistent Calvinists, to say the least...

[AugmentedMinor]

Never read anything by Calvin...I'm a Calvinist. Weiiiirrrrd.

[plumbwild]

Thanks for putting this together Brother>

[RefutingCalvinism]

@plumbwild  You're welcome brother...

[droptozro]

9:00 --- Calvin thought his gods doctrine of ALL people being damned eternally from birth was dreadful???? That's blasphemy against the false god! How dare he question his gods decrees and call them dreadful?!?!

[RefutingCalvinism]

@droptozro LOL!

[October31st1517]

So a Calvinist is someone who agrees with Calvin?

[RefutingCalvinism]

@October31st1517 On soteriology, YES. A Calvinist is someone who holds to T.U.L.I.P.