@SantiChaca95: Hehe yep. Well, technically it was my second. I have one just the day before this, which I set to private for some reason, don't know why.
Finally I got two more Q-steers and they work fine. Nevertheless, one has an "On Off" button in the chassis and one hasn´t. The one with "On Off" button works better.
@jakegangsta: I think they're pretty much gone at retail. Could possibly still be found at Toys R Us, but not likely. The Terrain Titans were replaced by Thunder Trucks last year.
@mrmurphyman1: Yeah, they've gotten pretty scarce, pretty much replaced by the Thunder Trucks a while back. Sometimes they can still be found at Toys R Us though.
can any of u fix this problem i have a terrain titan just like yours but the b version and it is always steering right does anybody know how to fix it.
Hey i have a hot wheels play set and a thunder truck i never thought of tht thx 4 the idea. :D oh but any ways im thinking of buying a terrain titan cause my thunder trucks charger on the remote got crushed some how. But does the terrain titan remote have the same input for the charger as a thunder truck? And will the remote work 4 it?
@WebkinzKAD: Thunder Truck and Terrain Titan controllers can work for each other, but you just have to check the frequency and/or band that each one works on.
@TheIpodTech97: It just looks faster 'cause I'm shooting them up close. If you like lay on the floor and watch your Terrain Titan up close it'll look much faster than when you're standing up.
@legonazizombiefan: Those are all Hot Wheels playsets. They don't really make many like those anymore, but there still is a few playsets and street sets here and there.
@BreakerOfTheFace: I could be wrong. Like I said, it's been a long time. Maybe not 10 minutes of straight playing, but I do recall it holds a charge pretty long for such a quick charge, 5-10 minutes maybe.
@bzboi100: It was like 14 bucks at Walmart. Same at Target and Toys R Us, but they're phased out now. Just the Thunder Trucks now. Some stores might still have old stock of the Terrain Titans though.
ok cool and if you ever get a chance could u show a video about how to change parts such as removing the body. I know the rest just can't seem to figure put the body and I dnt want to break it. thanks :)
@ericandkev: I actually haven't tried that. From what I've seen, the bodies on the Terrain Titans are basically glued on. So, some careful prying should do the trick. I don't plan on doing any mods though so I probably won't try it.
@ericandkev: The ZipZaps monster truck is very impressive. I honestly think the Thunder Trucks won't compare. But, we'll see. Whenever I finally open my Thunder Truck, I'll compare them.
ya I hear ya. I have the grasshopper and the one that comes in the performance pack. I haven't tried the thunder truck yet but probably soon. I have a track for them and if I fix my camera or get a new one, I'll make a vid :)
ya I hear ya. and I have the grasshopper and the 110 rmr car tht comes in the performance pack thing. I haven't tried the thunder truck yet but probably soon. I have a track for them and If I fix my camera, or get a new one, I'll make a vid:)
@ericandkev: Nice, you got some cool ones. Would love to see a vid of them on your track. I'm gonna really try to test out my Thunder Truck soon. I recently got some used ZipZaps monster trucks, so I'm interested to see how they compare.
@ericandkev: Thanks, I appreciate it. I try. It's harder these days with so many subscribers, I'm swamped with messages and comments. But, I still try to reply to everyone.
So, which two do you have? And have you tried the Thunder Trucks yet? I have one but haven't tried it yet. I haven't done an RC vid in a long time, but I will again soon.
@com1473usa: Actually, they're exactly like the Q-Steer cars. As I Mention in the description, these are the US versions of the Q-Steers. Fully licensed to Spin Master from Tomy. Same exact toys, inside and out, just different packaging.
@unknown281rule: Since I haven't done an RC video in a while, I'll try to get one up for my channel's one year anniversary next month. Most likely the Thunder Truck.
@unknown281rule: Thanks so much! Plenty more to come. Although not so much RC vids anymore, but I'll still try to do some from time to time. Still have my Thunder Truck to review, as well as Mario Kart micros, and my RC Halo Warthog.
@mikestar50: Man, if I had a buck for every dumb son of a bitch that compared these to a hobby grade RC, I'd be a rich bastard. I don't even approve most of these kinds of comments, but I feel like putting you on blast publicly...
So, once again, how smart of you to compare these $15 toy RC's to an around $150 hobby grad RC. Keep in mind these are also only about 3" in length, about a quarter of the size of a Mini-Z. Idiot.
@atvchick09: Yeah, I've owned and also tried out a lot of mini and micro RC's, this is by far my favorite. But, I also have a Thunder Truck that I haven't opened and tried out yet. I might like it better than this 'cause I like monster trucks, and it's basically a Terrain Titan monster truck.
@atvchick09: I got one last December but still haven't opened it. Basically the same chassis as the Terrain Titans, but with bigger wheels and a truck body. I've heard from a few people that have it that it actually performs better. We'll see.
@atvchick09: Yeah, you've only had yours for a couple months so far, enjoy that one first. Thunder Trucks just came out, so they'll be around for a while, no need to hurry.
@bladernikko: I don't know if the Tarrain Titans specifically are available there (I haven't been back in almost two years). But, I do know that the original Tomy Q-Steer versions that the Terrain Titans are based on are available there in all major toy retailers like Toys R Us, Toy Kingdom, SM and Robinsons.
@coolboy1091: Cool idea, I hadn't thought abut that. Just like the old Penny Racers, or the Terrain Titan Mario Kart cars that have a slot for a coin in the back so they can wheelie. I'll have to try it with a US quarter.
And for anyone reading this and wondering, a Toonie is a Canadian coin.
@ARHKAR: Have you checked that the charging tabs are connecting securely? If it's still not charging properly, I'd recommend exchanging it for a new one.
first video?
SantiChaca95 2 months ago
@SantiChaca95: Hehe yep. Well, technically it was my second. I have one just the day before this, which I set to private for some reason, don't know why.
smutoys 2 months ago
i have a blue one but the tail fin broke off
broisawsome123 3 months ago
@broisawsome123: Ohh that sucks. :-(
smutoys 3 months ago
Finally I got two more Q-steers and they work fine. Nevertheless, one has an "On Off" button in the chassis and one hasn´t. The one with "On Off" button works better.
87thscale 4 months ago
@87thscale: Wow I didn't know they had some without the on/off.
smutoys 4 months ago
i like to look at popular peopos first vis :3
philipve98 4 months ago
@philipve98: I'm not popular. ;-)
But whoa, blast from the past, this was over two years ago... :-O
smutoys 4 months ago
where can i buy 1 now
jakegangsta 4 months ago
@jakegangsta: I think they're pretty much gone at retail. Could possibly still be found at Toys R Us, but not likely. The Terrain Titans were replaced by Thunder Trucks last year.
smutoys 4 months ago
Just bought one and unfortunately the steering is not working. The left and right buttons do nothing. :-(
I am afraid it is nothing to do, isn´t it?
87thscale 4 months ago
@87thscale: Did you get it from a store or online?
smutoys 4 months ago
@smutoys Got it online to a chinese Ebay shop.
87thscale 4 months ago
@87thscale: Aw damn, I was gonna say if you got it in store, just exchange it.
Have you contacted the seller?
smutoys 4 months ago
@smutoys yes, but it is more expensive for me to sent it back than buy a new one... That item had free shipping from China. A pity.... :-s
87thscale 4 months ago
@87thscale: Damn, sorry man.
smutoys 4 months ago
@smutoys I will try with a new one, but this time I will buy to an UK seller. I will cross my fingers.
Thanks for your replies
87thscale 4 months ago
@87thscale: Check your local retailers, see if they have the newer Thunder Trucks, just like these, but with bigger wheels and truck bodies.
smutoys 4 months ago
I cant find these in stores anymore:(
mrmurphyman1 4 months ago
@mrmurphyman1: Yeah, they've gotten pretty scarce, pretty much replaced by the Thunder Trucks a while back. Sometimes they can still be found at Toys R Us though.
smutoys 4 months ago
filipino song :)
RenzoRaptor 5 months ago
@RenzoRaptor: Yep! :-D
smutoys 5 months ago
can any of u fix this problem i have a terrain titan just like yours but the b version and it is always steering right does anybody know how to fix it.
tinyNinja3 5 months ago
@tinyNinja3: Have you adjusted the steering trim underneath the front wheels? See the instructions if you don't know how.
smutoys 5 months ago
@smutoys ii remembered earlier thanks though
tinyNinja3 5 months ago
@tinyNinja3: No prob.
smutoys 5 months ago
awwww memories ;)
shdhfgrtdych360 6 months ago
@shdhfgrtdych360: Right? Haha this was so long ago. And I haven't done an RC vid in forever.
smutoys 6 months ago
@smutoys this video is still awesome and it was made 2 years ago.Those Titans were so fun but i broke mine long ago :/
shdhfgrtdych360 6 months ago
@shdhfgrtdych360: Really? I haven't played with mine much since. Never even tried my Thunder Truck. :-O
smutoys 6 months ago
Hey i have a hot wheels play set and a thunder truck i never thought of tht thx 4 the idea. :D oh but any ways im thinking of buying a terrain titan cause my thunder trucks charger on the remote got crushed some how. But does the terrain titan remote have the same input for the charger as a thunder truck? And will the remote work 4 it?
WebkinzKAD 6 months ago
@WebkinzKAD: Thunder Truck and Terrain Titan controllers can work for each other, but you just have to check the frequency and/or band that each one works on.
smutoys 6 months ago
@MyRidgeRacer: ;-)
smutoys 6 months ago
@TheIpodTech97: It just looks faster 'cause I'm shooting them up close. If you like lay on the floor and watch your Terrain Titan up close it'll look much faster than when you're standing up.
smutoys 6 months ago
@TheIpodTech97: Nah, I don't do mods.
smutoys 6 months ago
what is the stuff that is at 1:04, 1:06,& 1:11 & where can i get them
legonazizombiefan 6 months ago
@legonazizombiefan: Those are all Hot Wheels playsets. They don't really make many like those anymore, but there still is a few playsets and street sets here and there.
smutoys 6 months ago
hey!
what is better ,:Mini RC Buggy or Micro RC Terrain Titans??
i really have to know!!!
hey!
what is better ,:Mini RC Buggy or Micro RC Terrain Titans??
i really have to know!!!
funnygummy10013 9 months ago
@funnygummy10013: I don't know what mini RC buggy you're talking about.
smutoys 9 months ago
I've bought my terrain Titan off eBay for $22 and it will arrive soon can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
joeycuzz16 9 months ago
@joeycuzz16: Cool, you'll enjoy it.
smutoys 9 months ago
@joeycuzz16 at a ordinary store they are $15.00
TheGiggleGreg 9 months ago
do u have xbox live add me im SNIPERLEGEND234 oh and by the way cool bloopers 5 out of 5
SNIPERLEGEND234 9 months ago
@SNIPERLEGEND234: Thanks! And cool, I'll add you when I set up my new gamertag.
smutoys 9 months ago
awesome. you have an xbox 360. so cool lol
mouthymotor15 9 months ago
@mouthymotor15: Thanks! Yeah, 360 is the only system I like. ;-)
smutoys 9 months ago
@smutoys same here
Trixster454 9 months ago
@Trixster454: Cool!
smutoys 9 months ago
should i get the terrain titans or the thunder trucks
cookiemonster00able 10 months ago
@cookiemonster00able: I'd recommend a Thunder Truck. But, that's just me. I have both, but I like trucks better.
smutoys 10 months ago
@smutoys which one goes faster
cookiemonster00able 10 months ago
@cookiemonster00able: Performance is virtually identical.
smutoys 10 months ago
@smutoys do you have the atv thruster if so tell me if it's better than the thunder truck
cookiemonster00able 10 months ago
@cookiemonster00able: I don't have one yet, but I imagine the performance is identical to a Thunder Truck.
smutoys 10 months ago
mj michael jackson
DrOsthall 1 year ago
@DrOsthall: Huh?
smutoys 1 year ago
i got one same as urs
flipside1985fuck 1 year ago
@flipside1985fuck: Cool!
smutoys 1 year ago
try going mudding
neonbluen851 1 year ago
@neonbluen851: Hehe yeah, that's gonna work.
smutoys 1 year ago
just got one today its awsome
ROBOMAN1218 1 year ago
@ROBOMAN1218: Cool!
smutoys 1 year ago
mine can do DOUNUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! really it can!!!!!!!!!!ghdghjdghjdghjhj,fhjkhjkfhjkhfjkhfjk
SuperMillerman10 1 year ago
@SuperMillerman10: Awesome!
smutoys 1 year ago
nice tricks dude
franklyn519 1 year ago
@franklyn519: Thanks man!
smutoys 1 year ago
it's a mini tamiya hot shot :P
MrBajaboy5b 1 year ago
@MrBajaboy5b: Yeah, I state that in the description. ;p
smutoys 1 year ago
hey thats song is in tagalog are you a filam or a filipino or you just like fil songs
daredevil2010fyi 1 year ago
@daredevil2010fyi: I don't like the term FilAm. I'm Filipino. ;)
smutoys 1 year ago
How can people hate on this video? This is one of my favorites!!
MW2Master36 1 year ago
@MW2Master36: It's okay, as they say, "ya can't please everyone." ;) But thanks so much, really appreciate it! B)
smutoys 1 year ago
they're sooooooo cute tamiya is awesome by the way
Matuggertug 1 year ago
@Matuggertug: Yes they are, cute and Tamiya being awesome. ;) Thanks for watching!
smutoys 1 year ago
1:14 now its broken..
FynnVonAndersland 1 year ago
@FynnVonAndersland: Haha!
smutoys 1 year ago
how long do these things run for when fully charged?
BreakerOfTheFace 1 year ago
@BreakerOfTheFace: I don't remember, haven't played with it on a loooong time. But, I'd say maybe around 10 minutes.
smutoys 1 year ago
@smutoys Wow, 10 mins for just 50 seconds of charge! thanks! im definately getting this!
BreakerOfTheFace 1 year ago
@BreakerOfTheFace: I could be wrong. Like I said, it's been a long time. Maybe not 10 minutes of straight playing, but I do recall it holds a charge pretty long for such a quick charge, 5-10 minutes maybe.
smutoys 1 year ago
wow where did you get it AND HOW MUCH WAS IT i might get 1
bzboi100 1 year ago
@bzboi100: It was like 14 bucks at Walmart. Same at Target and Toys R Us, but they're phased out now. Just the Thunder Trucks now. Some stores might still have old stock of the Terrain Titans though.
smutoys 1 year ago
they dont ship where i live and i really would like these can you tell me a good site?
darkdeltrith56 1 year ago
@darkdeltrith56: If you've tried all your other options, I may be willing to help you if you have PayPal.
smutoys 1 year ago
@smutoys oh no i already i thought of amazon and they do ship there so yea but thx anyway
darkdeltrith56 1 year ago
@darkdeltrith56: Cool, I'm glad!
smutoys 1 year ago
@smutoys thx
darkdeltrith56 1 year ago
@smutoys and now i got more bad news toys cant be shipped to estonia from amazon >.< now what
darkdeltrith56 1 year ago
@darkdeltrith56: I could help you out if you want.
smutoys 1 year ago
@smutoys ye il think about it
darkdeltrith56 1 year ago
@darkdeltrith56 oh no thanks i ordered a air hogs thunder truck few days ago. but thanks anyway.and i hope i will get it soon.
darkdeltrith56 1 year ago
@darkdeltrith56: Cool, hope you get it soon.
smutoys 1 year ago
@smutoys ok so i finally got my thunder truck and it does alot of cool things.and somehow i managed to do a wheelie xD.the thunder trucks are awesome
darkdeltrith56 1 year ago
@darkdeltrith56: Oh man, that's cool you got it!
smutoys 1 year ago
@smutoys yea thanks.btw i got the green flamed one
darkdeltrith56 1 year ago
@darkdeltrith56: Nice one!
smutoys 1 year ago
nobody ships to estonia not fair :( and i really want these
darkdeltrith56 1 year ago
@darkdeltrith56: Have you tried eBay?
smutoys 1 year ago
@smutoys cool vid
dewdrop1978 1 year ago
@dewdrop1978: Thanks!
smutoys 1 year ago
@smutoys ok thx anyways
ericandkev 1 year ago
@ericandkev: No prob!
smutoys 1 year ago
@smutoys
ok cool and if you ever get a chance could u show a video about how to change parts such as removing the body. I know the rest just can't seem to figure put the body and I dnt want to break it. thanks :)
ericandkev 1 year ago
@ericandkev: I actually haven't tried that. From what I've seen, the bodies on the Terrain Titans are basically glued on. So, some careful prying should do the trick. I don't plan on doing any mods though so I probably won't try it.
smutoys 1 year ago
@smutoys
sry for the repost. oh cool ya I was looking into the zipzaps monster trucks too
ericandkev 1 year ago
@ericandkev: The ZipZaps monster truck is very impressive. I honestly think the Thunder Trucks won't compare. But, we'll see. Whenever I finally open my Thunder Truck, I'll compare them.
smutoys 1 year ago
@smutoys
ya I hear ya. I have the grasshopper and the one that comes in the performance pack. I haven't tried the thunder truck yet but probably soon. I have a track for them and if I fix my camera or get a new one, I'll make a vid :)
ericandkev 1 year ago
@smutoys
ya I hear ya. and I have the grasshopper and the 110 rmr car tht comes in the performance pack thing. I haven't tried the thunder truck yet but probably soon. I have a track for them and If I fix my camera, or get a new one, I'll make a vid:)
ericandkev 1 year ago
@ericandkev: Nice, you got some cool ones. Would love to see a vid of them on your track. I'm gonna really try to test out my Thunder Truck soon. I recently got some used ZipZaps monster trucks, so I'm interested to see how they compare.
smutoys 1 year ago
thunder trucks gets lass struck
unknown281rule 1 year ago
I have two of these and they're lots of fun to race:) I also really admire how u respond almost instantly to comments:) great vid
ericandkev 1 year ago
@ericandkev: Thanks, I appreciate it. I try. It's harder these days with so many subscribers, I'm swamped with messages and comments. But, I still try to reply to everyone.
So, which two do you have? And have you tried the Thunder Trucks yet? I have one but haven't tried it yet. I haven't done an RC vid in a long time, but I will again soon.
smutoys 1 year ago
can u please do a vid on how fast it goes, cheers!!!!!!!
12inchbmx4life 1 year ago
@12inchbmx4life: Thanks, but I don't know what you mean exactly. Like a clocking of its actual speed? Or a speed comparison with other RC's?
smutoys 1 year ago
i have this one!!!!!!!!!!!
BrendanTheBass99 1 year ago
@BrendanTheBass99: Cool!
smutoys 1 year ago
I like the ending with the bloopers. :)
escapedturkey 1 year ago
@escapedturkey: Thanks! :)
smutoys 1 year ago
@escapedturkey me to
cuteabi555 1 year ago
@cuteabi555: Haha thanks! I haven't done an RC vid in a while. But, I will be doing some soon.
smutoys 1 year ago
2wd apa empat tuh?
suhanda 1 year ago
@suhanda: Sorry, I don't understand Indonesian. But, if you're asking if it's just 2wd, yes, it's 2wd.
smutoys 1 year ago
i have the same one! i got it for olny $10 on clearance
atvchick09 1 year ago
@atvchick09: Great price!
smutoys 1 year ago
cool
chase19871 1 year ago
@chase19871: Thanks.
smutoys 1 year ago
Lol
Tuimill 1 year ago
needs a brushless
MrDrew785 1 year ago
how much in us?
urstupidipshit 1 year ago
@urstupidipshit: $15. Have you seen the new Thunder Trucks? They're monster truck versions of the Terrain Titans (I have a few videos of them also).
smutoys 1 year ago
@smutoys o yea have seen ur videos too ;P
urstupidipshit 1 year ago
smutoys looks like a q-steer
com1473usa 1 year ago
@com1473usa: Actually, they're exactly like the Q-Steer cars. As I Mention in the description, these are the US versions of the Q-Steers. Fully licensed to Spin Master from Tomy. Same exact toys, inside and out, just different packaging.
smutoys 1 year ago
40/60
MultiRcmaniac 2 years ago
cant wait to watch them
unknown281rule 2 years ago
@unknown281rule: Since I haven't done an RC video in a while, I'll try to get one up for my channel's one year anniversary next month. Most likely the Thunder Truck.
smutoys 2 years ago
i think your vids are coooolll
unknown281rule 2 years ago
@unknown281rule: Thanks so much! Plenty more to come. Although not so much RC vids anymore, but I'll still try to do some from time to time. Still have my Thunder Truck to review, as well as Mario Kart micros, and my RC Halo Warthog.
smutoys 2 years ago
you have a thunder truck.....SWEET, i do too
teroxZ3 2 years ago
@teroxZ3: Cool. Yeah, I got it back in December and still haven't played with it. Which one do you have?
smutoys 2 years ago
@smutoys Sorry for the late reply, I have the uh orange one :P
teroxZ3 1 year ago
@teroxZ3: Oh nice, that one's cool!
smutoys 1 year ago
your welcome
unknown281rule 2 years ago
thanks smutoys
unknown281rule 2 years ago
@unknown281rule: Not a problem, thanks for checkin' out the vids!
smutoys 2 years ago
music?
unknown281rule 2 years ago
@unknown281rule: I forget the title of the song, check it in the credits though. The band is Slapshock, a Filipino metal band.
smutoys 2 years ago
rc10 is better faster and dosent break but i like these too just to ride around
unknown281rule 2 years ago
My mini-z owns this f*cking slow car.
mikestar50 2 years ago
@mikestar50: Man, if I had a buck for every dumb son of a bitch that compared these to a hobby grade RC, I'd be a rich bastard. I don't even approve most of these kinds of comments, but I feel like putting you on blast publicly...
So, once again, how smart of you to compare these $15 toy RC's to an around $150 hobby grad RC. Keep in mind these are also only about 3" in length, about a quarter of the size of a Mini-Z. Idiot.
smutoys 2 years ago
i got mine yesterday! there amazing! i got the thunder trucks ;p )
mycoolgecko 2 years ago
@mycoolgecko: Cool! How do you like it?
smutoys 2 years ago
@smutoys looks like a q-steer
com1473usa 1 year ago
sweet zooming
MW2Master36 2 years ago
@MW2Master36: Thanks!
smutoys 2 years ago
im thinking about getting 1 but for 10 bucks idk about behing all that ice
TheNannyman 2 years ago
@TheNannyman: I'm sure most Terrain Titans owners would agree they're well worth the price.
smutoys 2 years ago
i have that same one
atvchick09 2 years ago
@atvchick09: Cool, how do you like it?
smutoys 2 years ago
its fun!....ive had afew mini rc cars and i like this one the best
atvchick09 2 years ago
@atvchick09: Yeah, I've owned and also tried out a lot of mini and micro RC's, this is by far my favorite. But, I also have a Thunder Truck that I haven't opened and tried out yet. I might like it better than this 'cause I like monster trucks, and it's basically a Terrain Titan monster truck.
smutoys 2 years ago
oh ya i saw that on tv
atvchick09 2 years ago
@atvchick09: I got one last December but still haven't opened it. Basically the same chassis as the Terrain Titans, but with bigger wheels and a truck body. I've heard from a few people that have it that it actually performs better. We'll see.
smutoys 2 years ago
ya i want one....i got this one for christmas! so i think i use this one for a while longer
atvchick09 2 years ago
@atvchick09: Yeah, you've only had yours for a couple months so far, enjoy that one first. Thunder Trucks just came out, so they'll be around for a while, no need to hurry.
smutoys 2 years ago
where can i buy these toys? im from the phil.
bladernikko 2 years ago
@bladernikko: I don't know if the Tarrain Titans specifically are available there (I haven't been back in almost two years). But, I do know that the original Tomy Q-Steer versions that the Terrain Titans are based on are available there in all major toy retailers like Toys R Us, Toy Kingdom, SM and Robinsons.
smutoys 2 years ago
if you have target thats where i got mine
atvchick09 2 years ago
I had one until my sister threw it at me and broke it permanently! i have a stupid sister. lol
MyFaceHole 2 years ago
@MyFaceHole: Whoa, that's messed up! She should pay for it...
smutoys 2 years ago
try tapeing a toonie to the back to do wheelys (not shure if it will work though)
coolboy1091 2 years ago
@coolboy1091: Cool idea, I hadn't thought abut that. Just like the old Penny Racers, or the Terrain Titan Mario Kart cars that have a slot for a coin in the back so they can wheelie. I'll have to try it with a US quarter.
And for anyone reading this and wondering, a Toonie is a Canadian coin.
smutoys 2 years ago
hey i just bought a thunder truck, i have been charging it for 15 mins and its not working. Any clue on what i should do?
ARHKAR 2 years ago
@ARHKAR: Have you checked that the charging tabs are connecting securely? If it's still not charging properly, I'd recommend exchanging it for a new one.
smutoys 2 years ago
they are fun !!!!!!!!!!!!