The difference in different religions were not God given but it so happened that the teachings of charity and patience is not liked by those who are in POWER so they try to change God's teachings to suit themselves.
When enough corruption has already occured in religious scripture, God sent another messenger with renewed teachings of forgotten or manipulated scripture.
And the names of ancestral human fossils can't be taken too seriously.Like theology,paleontology is a field in which the students far outnumber the objects of study. There are lively—and sometimes acrimonious—debates about whether a given fossil is really something new, or merely a variant of an already named species.These arguments about scientific names often mean very little. Whether a humanlike fossil is named as one species or another can turn on matters as small as half a millimeter CONT
Whether a humanlike fossil is named as one species or another can turn on matters as small as half a mm in the diameter of a tooth, or slight differences in the shape of the thighbone.
..These arguments about scientific names often mean very little. WHETHER A HUMANLIKE FOSSIL IS NAMED AS ONE SPECIES OR ANOTHER CAN TURN ON MATTER AS SMALL AS HALF AMILLIMETER IN THE DIAMETER OF A TOOTH OR SLIGHT DIFFERENCE IN THE SHAPE OF THE THIGHBONE(Emphasis MINE).
According to theory of Evolution,one would expect the cytochrome C of a bacterium to be closer to the cytochrome C of a tuna (fish)than a horse (mammal). Furthermore, the horse should have the same mutations as the tuna, plus a few more. This is not what the molecular data shows.
The cytochrome C in bacteria is 64% different from horses and pigeons,65% different from tuna and silkmoths,66% different from wheat, and 69% different from yeast.Yet Atheists boast that every science proves evolution
@farzanatasneem "The cytochrome C in bacteria is 64% different from horses and pigeons,65% different from tuna and silkmoths,66% different from wheat, and 69% different from yeast"
What makes you think that this is little similarity? How can you claim that about 60% difference is too much difference when comparing bacteria to fish or wheat? If about 60% is different, then about 40% is equal, that would mean about 40% equal between bacteriae, animals (fish, horse...) and vegetables (wheat).
in ecclesiastes, the author is talking about the sun rises and goes down in a man's eye view prespective. It does not say about the sun revolving around the earth.
@Voltar143 "in ecclesiastes, the author is talking about the sun rises and goes down in a man's eye view prespective"
Exacly, man's eye view perspective. Any sigh of a divine omniscience there?
Don't you think that if an allknowing intellect was behind the Bible, as christians and jews (the OT part for the jews) believe, this deity should induce the writer to describe things in a more accurate way that did not suggest the sun having motion and the moon being a source of light?
@caralhoman yourquotes about Isaiah, Samuel, Job and psalm are wrong. For example, in ancient hebrew the word circle is a sphere and not a flat disk. There is no such thing as a flat disk or even word to describe such thing in ancient language
your 1Samuel 2:20 dont say about pillars, in Job 22:14 talks about clouds and an invisible shield called atmosphere. the psalms are also correct, the earth does not move in its place in relation to the sun or distance and it held in it's place.
@Voltar143 "in ancient hebrew the word circle is a sphere and not a flat disk.There is no such thing as a flat disk in ancient language"
Do you know the difference between a soccer ball and a pizza? Do you know the difference beween the two shapes? Of course you do. You do and that is why you have a word "sphere" and "circle" in your language. Do you think the ancient hebrews were any different?
Not only the word is "circle" but the context support a flat circle (disk-like), not a sphere shape
@Voltar143 "the psalms are also correct, the earth does not move in its place in relation to the sun or distance and it held in it's place"
Really? and is it what the Bible means? Or is it the interpretation that YOU give so you can continue believing that the Bible is really a book written under an allknowing influence?
Come on, be honest... The bible describes very clearly an Earth static with everything else moving around it. The notion of a "world that never moves" could not be more clear.
1 samuel 2:8, it is 8 not 20. It is clear there that the world is held by pillars. And there are other parts claiming so, but I will not go searching for them, this one is enought
"in Job 22:14 talks about clouds and an invisible shield called atmosphere"
In my language Job 22:14 is clear in describing the dome the covers the earth (compatible with a flat Earth, not spheric). The versions I checked said nothing of atmosphere (any language)
Atmosphere is the dome that covers the earth and it is a part of the sky that we see.
So if God says that sky covers the earth like a dome, there is nothing wrong in it but the only thing is that Atheists are quick in dismissing scriptures ; as they do not want to accept existence of God so a little difference in wordings is enough for them to stick to their illogical stance
@calhoman you quotes about Isaiah, Samuel, Job and psalm are wrong. For example, in ancient hebrew the word circle is a sphere and not a flat disk. There is no such thing as a flat disk or even word to describe such thing in ancient language
you quotes about Isaiah, Samuel, Job and psalm are wrong. For example, in ancient hebrew the word circle is a sphere and not a flat disk. There is no such thing as a flat disk or even word to describe such thing in ancient language
Ohh, there are times when the stupidity hits the mind so hard that you want to scream out of pain... ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID???!! THINK, please THINK before you speak!
I stopped watching on letter M, did not even care to see the U,C, H.
Comparing atheists to Hitler, pedophiles and zoophiles? Are you not ashamed of striking this low? I mean, is this how you show how much your religion is right? by calling those that do not believe it things like zoophile child molesting nazis?
@farzanatasneem "Then you should not have commented on this video"
The first 3 minutes the video state right away that due to me not believing some religion I am an immoral nazi who likes having sex with children and animals. Why should I watch it to the end? WHY?
When you want to know if the soup is any good, you do not need to eat the full pot, do you? You just try it with a spoon. That spoon is a sample. I had a 3 minute sample from this video.
I did not compare the video to soup. I compared the watching of 3 minutes of a 17 minute-long video with the tasting of 1 spoon of soup from a full bowl of soup. I meant SAMPLING, that is the taking of a small sample of a larger whole. "Comparing the video to soup"... My, you are not bright at all, are you?
"Flat earth in scriptures ??"
Yes, flat earth in scriptures. Flat Earth and many other errors which are not limited to astronomy.
Davey nice logical argument. there are no illogical fallacies in it and the statement is true. therefore this is a sound argument. A comeback would be illogical.
@bosanaczauvjek comeback?why was that supposed of been a insult?i was just stating a fact.hitler believed in evolution and he tried to kill the ''lower evolved species" of man so his evolved race could evolve further.this is a fact of history.so my point stands.
No, not really. This is gossip that you heard somewhere. Preachers say this to their flock often, for instance, shortly before telling them to "fund God's work".
"i see you dont know what a christian is"
It is a person who believes in Jesus... and eventually hates jews because they killed Jesus. Are you just trying to pull out the good old "not a true christian" falacy?
@caralhoman hitler did believe in evolution.those who claim to be christians that believe in it doesnt believe what God said in the bible.a christian is supposed to be a follower of Christ not of man,thats a christian.we are not suppose to hate no one and the jews is Gods chosen people.so i dont know how you came up with that.i think you are very confused,its ok b/c many are.finding the truth must be searched not taught.
Again, how can someone believe that God created Adam and Eve pure white arians also believe that there was no Adam and Eve because life evolves instead of spriting from the nowhere?
"i dont know how you came up with that"
I did not came up with that, christians did. Does "jews killed Jesus so they deserve punishment" sound any atheistic to you?
"i think you are very confused"
Me? it is you the one claiming that Hitler was not christian
@caralhoman from what the bible states a christian should do hitler was the opposite.so no he wasnt.adam and eve wasnt white.your life that washed up on a rock came from nowhere remember that.they are alot of misconceptions that with a little looking into one can find the truth.
@davymatheny "from what the bible states a christian should do hitler was the opposite"
The Bible states(altough implicitly)that all it needs to be a christian and go to heaven is to believe in Jesus, that is the only requirement to go to heaven, and that is exacly what Hitler did
"adam and eve wasnt white"
Tell this to Hitler
How can you complain of missconceptions when you say that evolution claims that life washes up rocks from the nowhere? That is pure misconception of evolution
@caralhoman yes we must be born again.not just some little prayer as alot of christians think.adam and eve was redish color.think about it.evolution in whole thinks we came from nothing.that itself is a religion because they are no proof.and non-living material became living.that also cant happen.
@davymatheny "evolution thinks we came from nothing"
Still missconcepted. Man, admit that you know nothing of Evolution. Just say that you believe Creationism because you will go to hell if you do not, that would at least be honest
"there are no proof [of evolution]"
Missinformed. Missconcepted and now missinformed too
"non-living material became living.that cant happen"
That is Abiogenesis, not Evolution. See? completely missconcepted
@caralhoman ok,where did life evolve from?where did the planets come from?when you get to this point all evo guys says life came from nonliving matter.they are no red skin?lol tell that to the the Indians.
See? Completely missinformed and missconcepted about evolution. What does the origin of planets have to do with evolution?
"life came from nonliving matter"
There is your answer
"they are no red skin?tell that to the Indians"
Red skin does not exist. Calling a native of american continent a "red skin" is just racism, just like saying that asians are yellow. Look at this /watch?v=J0bqcRJsikA do they seem any red to you?
@caralhoman why would you believe life came from nonliving matter?that isnt scientific.it doesnt happen now or isnt testable.so that makes it a religion,you must believe it happened.red,white,yellow,and so on are colors not race.just shows you dont know the difference between race and color.asians arent really yellow its just a tint.and yes indians do have a red tint,i should know im part indian!you dont know much of anything do you.
"you dont know the difference between race and color"
There is no race either. Red skin does not exist, only tones of brown. The natives painted their bodies red, nothing more. Saying that they have red skin is false and racist
Saying "Hitler believed evoltion" is ridiculous,what is that supposed to mean? He was imoral because he accepted evolution? He accepted evolution because he was imoral? Ridiculous in either case, evolution and morality have nothing to do with each other
"Why would you believe life came from nonliving matter?"
I do not. I think it is a reasonable explanation
"that makes it a religion"
No. A religion is based on belief even with evidence that show the belief to be wrong,while the theories of chemical origin of life are based on evidence. Also,religions consider disagreeing to be a heresy/blasphemy and punish/intimidate dissidents,do you see any scientist threatening you with eternal torture for questioning scientific theories?
Nothing like a religious bias with his talking snakes,holy gods and truths above our understanding(which sentence to eternal torture if questioned)to tell us what is science and what is not...
"it doesnt happen now"
Urey-Miller experiment and others.Get ACTUAL information about subjects that contradict your religion instead of just parroting what preachers tell you,do not just shoot like a machinegun every half-info and anti-science gossip that you hear
@caralhoman then how do you think life began?yes evolution is a religion in every word.also dont confuse science with evolution because evolution isnt science.hitler did believe in evo but he thought killing off every person who didnt have blond hair and blue eyes wasnt evolved and needed to be killed so his thought of race could evolve.
Even with the concept of evolution, there can be a distinct entity called man and the first man can be called as Adam and his wife as Eve.
There has to be some point where four legged non-upright ape gave birth to an upright walking human with different position of semicircular canals and Pelvis. This needs to be at the same time and place when a female of similar characteristics is born so that to breed with each other=Adam and Eve, peace be upon them both !
@farzanatasneem "Evolution as inspite of it being unscientific"
Why is it unscientific?
"it is propagated as scientific"
Well... religions propagate it as unscientific. The same religions that propagate as scientific the notion of a flat Earth covered by a dome and held static in the universe by pillars over a void with the sun orbiting around it.
"There has to be some point where four legged non-upright ape gave birth to an upright walking human"
Can you quote any scripture that instructs mennot to walk on earth too far away as they will fall off ??
Or any scripture says that if you will walk very fast and far away you will reach a place from where you can climb the sky as two (Earth and sky) touch/meet each other at one point?
I do not think that any, again, any scripture says any such things.
Scriptures do describe the vastness of sky and earth but no clear unscientific statement !
@farzanatasneem "Can you quote any scripture that instructs men not to walk on earth too far away as they will fall off?"
Planet as a flat disk(Isaiah 40:22), held by pillars(1 Samel 2:20), covered by a dome(Job 22:14), static/immovable in the universe(psalms 104:5, psalms 93:1), the sun orbiting around it(ecclesiastes 1:5)...
Do not walk the earth FAR away so that you will not fall off the flat earth
If there was any such statement then it would have clearly an unscientific one."
And I replied to that already. I told you that no, there is NOT a verse that say such a think, but there are OTHERS that clearly depict a flat Earth, and not only flat but also with other absurd characteristics. I replied that a flat Earth IS part of scriptures.
DEPICT a flat earth is different than what we call a flat earth scientifically.
Scriptures were not sent to inform us about the phenomena causing night and the day.
Qur'an says at many place that God straightened out the earth for us to be able to live on it , anti-Islamists translate it as flat earth while what is meant by it is the surface of the earth which is levelled .
@farzanatasneem "I know that what was revealed to Jesus,but was not preserved in its entirelty"
Jesus? What are you talking about? This has nothing to do with prophet Jesus. Flat earth and other absurdities about the universe are OT stuff
But since you mention Jesus, there are ones from him too, such as deseases being caused by deamons instead of bacteriae or viruses. If that one is misstranslated... well... who knows what else? Maybe the parts of killing the infidel wre misstranslated too,eh?
Jesus, the Prophet , peace be upon him did not say ALL diseases are because of demons, so there might be some sicknesses that are caused by them and as we cannot test demons, we cannot call it scientifically inaccurate.
Killing of infidels was revealed during wars and it is being misquoted to malign Qur'anic teachings and Islam
@farzanatasneem And also, you did not answer why evolution is unscientific and you have not explained your absurd missconception of evolution which you have shown when you said that according to evolution " four legged non-upright ape gave birth to an upright walking human", an absurd which demostrates near total ignorance on the matter.
Imagine about the transformation period of humans from primitive primates.
They walked horizontally, so their pelvis was straight while we walk upright so our pelvis are curved so that our Levator muscle supports abdominal organs from prolapsing while foetus has to undergo a rotatory movement during parturition.
This all is said to happen because of robertsonian translocation in apes
Robertsonian translocation gives rise to only malformed babies in humans
@farzanatasneem I do not know this roberstonian translocation anomaly (and I have the feeling that neither do you) so I will not comment on it. What I can say is that evolution does not happen only in humans, it can be observed in other species and we have plenty of evidence to presume evolutionary process in nature. So if this specific mutation is incompatible with the human evolutionary process, then it is more likely for it NOT to take part in human evolution then evolution itself not exist.
Why do you have the feeling that I will not know Robertsonian translocation?
When some part of a chromosom is lost, it become sticky and can join the other chromosome.
If two ends of a chromosome are lost then those two ends will join with each other to create a ring chromosome.
These give rise to severe form of malformation and is mostly incapable of survival leading to foetal loss , so those with recurrent loss of foetus are asked to undergo chromosomal analysis to diagnose it
brilliant!! awsome work and points... i swear atheists started this argument.. when we believers use the atheists language to prove Gods existance and have also show the flaws in the atheistic view all we get is complaints and ridicule lol
What a silly video. This guy gets just about everything backwards.
Nazi Germany was an overwhelmingly Christian country, and the vast majority of Nazi soldiers were professing Christians. If miracles were real, it is then that we would not be able to predict that the Sun will rise tomorrow, because God might decide for some random reason to stop the rotation of the Earth. Evolution does not predict that whales would evolve into lizards. By all definitions, men are biological animals.
Total idiocy; a little question here for you (one of many): on this "uniformity of nature" concept, what about floods and tornadoes? Why, if they're predictable, are so many people surprised and killed in them? I love how you twist all this around and add just a pinch of science to make yourself feel better. Lastly, WHY do you need a god to tell you you're special? Evolution is a very fascinating and special concept to me.
This guy frames his arguments so that his answers are the only answers; and there's no such thing as NAMBLA, by the way. See the lengths these religious people have to go to? They need to give it up and embrace common sense.
Morality is our awareness of the social responsibility to make the choices that cause the least suffering.
I didn't watch much of your video but I have a question about bestiality, in cases where the animal wants to do it and isn't harmed like in your example of 'a man killing his neighbor's dog by having sex with it', what's immoral about it?
remember morality is about minimizing the undesired suffering being forced on minds, not... what offends you or your god
Yep. A god induced morality is the reason that chimps don't eat their own children, and it's the reason that soldier ants fight to the death to protect the colony. If chimps and ants didn't get their morality from some authority, their societies would collapse overnight just like the Roman empire.
Morality comes from the instinct to cooperate. The alternative instinct is to give no regard to the needs of others. Humans have evolved to survive through cooperation. In order to cooperate successfully, we need to avoid certain anti-cooperative behaviors.
That is the source of morality.
I did not bother to listen to the argument that you presented, because I was able to refute your premise instantly.
At about 200,000 years into it's expansion the Universe cooled sufficiently to just a few thousand degrees Kelvin and Energy and Matter were no longer in thermal equilibrium.. Radiation could then stream freely and Morality was created along with the lighter elements like Helium and Lithium..
Even more on morals. We have reached a genetic point were we can form our morals not as evolutionary traits. Physically altering the way our minds think in order to embrace a new belief. Why? Again evolution. We have evolved to the point were much of our genetic processes that lower life forms like reptiles used to survive are no longer needed so what does an animal do when a genetic sequence is not needed it turns it off which is also why we don't have scales or gills or feathers. Everything a
More on morals. Most higher animals would be days into starvation before eating there own kind. Lower animals like reptiles small mammals like rodents and some birds. Creatures of low intelligence will practice cannibalism why because genetically they have not reached that point where the understand it's wrong. how does it understand it's wrong. The same way those animals know what plants and animals they can eat.
Also more about morality. Many people believe it is not moral to be gay. Let's look at this on a scientific level. Even animals will sometimes shun homosexual behavior why it has no benefit to the creation and growth of a group. Homosexuals can not produce children when allowed to practice there sexual wants. Our morals were formed through millions of years of evolution and continue to be formed.
First a whale cant become a reptile it is a mammal that's taking an evolutionary step backwards. Second we have morals because of genetic advancement a wolf in a pack will not kill a wolf in the same pack unless that wolf shows mental or physical deformity that will not benefit the pack. Logic is not universal ever brain human or animal is different they do the same job but they all do it in slightly different ways otherwise we would all think act and believe in the same things 100% of the time
In the first four minutes, he totally destroys his own argument by contradicting himself. He says that individual approval "runs into problems" by appealing to **most people would say that is immoral** But that argument itself is appealing to SOCIAL APPROVAL! He is using the very argument that he just said was incorrect 2 minutes earlier!
M = Morals, societies have been dictating and improving upon morals and ethics for a very long time. These secular morals keep Christians from burning Witches. Christian morals are ineffective as they fill U.S. prisons, but not the atheist. The Christian church is the largest supporter and defender of pedophiles.
U: Science is not need to dismiss Santa and Jesus. It is OK not to know everything, but that does not mean a god did it.
to be honest the only part that seemed remotely cogent was the morality part. But then i dont know enough about morality and the fact that everything after that was unmitigated unrelenting complete bollocks though rather indicates if i knew more about morality i'd know that part was bollocks as well.
@mrdarkevilme All socities have morals, even the Brazilian Paraha, who totally reject the supernatural. Consider a society of self interest and anarchy, and another of mutual trust and shared interest. Natural selection will sort any competition, assuming the anarchists can stop worrying about security long enough to compete. Transparently morals evolve, and continue to evolve. That's why we have a legislature.
Take your morals from the bible and you'll become a Nazi like Moses or Joshua.
Ah the typical argument from ignorance, I don't know what did it therefore God did it. "Hey Mr theist your car is gone, God must have taken it" Later they found out it was stolen, just like how religion stole this guy's brain. God of the gaps, just because we don't have a full understanding of something now doesn't mean we won't have it later.
What's the difference between believing in a the Greek or Roman gods compared to one God? It just seems like us trying to explain things that we don't understand. Why is there a new and old testament? If there is a god, why doesn't he speak to us directly? Why would someone who is all good let so many terrible things happen to good people? Will an atheist who does good to others his whole life go to hell while Jeffrey Dauhmer goes to heaven just for saying "sorry, my bad Jesus"?Sorry, no God.
if a 17 year old boy wants to sex up an old man, thats his choice. it's disgusting, sure, but that's not a foundation for what's wrong.
same goes for bestiality, of any kind.
just because something is looked down upon by society does not determine objective wrong. people don't like the idea of pedophilia, but in a natural sense it's biologically advantageous.
if a 17 year old boy wants to sex up an old man, thats his choice. it's disgusting, sure, but that's not a foundation for what's wrong.
same goes for bestiality, of any kind.
point 2: change and uniformity aren't incompatible.
point 3: beyond my capability.
point 4: who ever said cannibalism was wrong? just because something is looked down upon by society does not determine objective wrong. people don't like the idea of pedophilia, but in a natural sense it's biologically advantageous.
The degree to which this guy spouts bizarrely wrongheaded misunderstandings of philosophy, morality, and human nature is fractal-esque. The further you examine his statements, the more faulty assumptions arise...faulty assumptions resting on faulty assumptions resting on still more faulty assumptions...all the way down.
SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy. Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living, reproducing if their reproductive system, vital structures, and organs hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species.
WHAT ABOUT THE STARS? Gravity explains how the order found in the precise courses of trillions of stars is maintained, but gravity can't explain the origin of that order! Did all the trillions stars agree to get out of each others way? C'mon! Disorder in the universe is because of chance, but the order is because of design. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
WHAT IS SCIENCE? Science simply is knowledge based on observation. No one observed the universe coming by chance or by design, by creation or by macro-evolution. These are positions of faith. The issue is which faith the scientific evidence best supports. Natural laws can explain how an airplane or living cell works, but it's irrational to believe that undirected natural laws can bring about an airplane or a living cell. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument for a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed in design or useless.
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read article by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation site.
BLIND WATCHMAKER NO ARGUMENT. Natural selection is no "blind watchmaker" because it can only "select" from variations produced having survival value. It doesn't produce variations. It only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't be involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it living! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
GENETIC INFORMATION DOESN'T HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of transitional forms and lack of "age" sequence of the fossil layers. Discusses mixed species in fossils (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum conveniently ignored by evolutionists).
NOT ALL EVOLUTIONISTS even agree on the fossils used to support and reconstruct human evolution. The bones are incomplete. There's no certainty of the bones belonging to the same creature. They can reconstruct whatever they want from these bones, and they have. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from an ape-like creature anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from a four-legged dog-like creature. Read my article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE
APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creature anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
C: The problem about things that are immaterial is that they only exist because there are humans who believe they exist. simply put the 2 is only there because we created the 2, if there were no more humans the 2 would be gone because it only exists in our mind.
@doombow666 What?!? Are you kidding me?!?!? We aren't literally talking about that image in your head that you abstract from what you call a triangle. We're talking about if you ceased to exist, would that 3 sided polygon still be there? In the atheist universe, matter is all that exists. If you believe in things like abstractions then atheism fails as a worldview (a set of presuppositions). Abstractions aren't concrete, they aren't matter so give up on atheism.
You're really claiming that religious people don't use abstractions? Wow. Good luck with that one.
Do you even know what you mean by "real"? Because we can say that abstractions are significant to us in the time that they operate, which is all anybody could expect -- hence real.
H: we are just animals, look from above at an ant hill and then at a human society. The ants while in their nests are calm, protect their fellow ants, take care of offspring, fight wars and even communicate with each other just like humans. why do we not see this? Because we dont look! You say animals are so diffirent but when you spend a long time studying their behavior (like i have) you will c that humans and animals do alot of the same things.
M: we get morals not only from social acceptance, but also from instinct. we simply do not like killing people becase killing our own species would be counterproductive for our species.
U: scientific testing DOES NOT require tomorrow to be the same as today, if things would suddenly fly away instead of fall down we would still be able to observe this, test why this is happening, form an answer based on these tests, test if these answers are correct and then form a scientific theory.
@doombow666 Right...so if we get our morals from instinct whoever ever said nature got it right? What if I actually do like killing, what if i'm a psychopath and i literally enjoy inflicting pain. On what basis do you have to say you i got it right and I got it wrong? Your opinion (preference). It's literally worthless. 0+0+0+0+0 will always equal 0.
Enter politics. The people interested in civilization more or less band together.
The problem is that theocracies and religious policies don't work, in spite of being awarded a "superior morality." And the religious are just as prone to the kind of social and individual approval talked about in the video.
The Bible even talks about owning women as property and slavery. And no, don't even go to the "out of context" argument either, since non-Jews are not indentured servants and even Jewish servants could be slaves under certain legal contingencies.
Why aren't Christian slavers now? Believe me, pastors certainly argued for slavery using just those passages in the Bible. It certainly wasn't because MLK was religiously inspired.
oh my... silly theists... by saying that without god we cant be moral, your basically saying your all naturally shitty people who cant just be good for the sake of being good....
If you need a book to teach you morals and dignity then you must have something wrong with you mentally. Religion causes problems, atheism solves them. (Go ahead religious people tell me I'm wrong and I'm going to hell)
I'm Respectful, kind, smart, protective, smart, hard working and caring of everything, these are morals that I don't have because I am an Atheist, get the fuck over yourself.
So pretty much.....haha, what he said is that we have no right morals, that most of us might be pediphiles and murders, oh by the way hitler was christian.
So many things wrong with this it's hard to know what to say...but the narrator proved my point for me with the last line..."turn to god to be saved by your intellect."
And it's also funny that christianity's only answer to MUCH is....because god said so.
I rated like because videos like this only strengthen atheism.
Let's see, We have instincts, behaviors and cellular structure of animals. Yet according to you, we're nothing like animals because we are intelligent and creative. You realize every time there's a large conflict over a vital object (for the sake of argument let's say food), we kill each other for it (Competition)? Animals do the exact same thing.
You really shouldn't use the bible to try and justify your M.U.C.H otherwise you will have to support slavery, stoning, genocide and rape. Hitler was a Catholic who used Jesus often to promote his evil and most of his SS were christian. Oh lets talk about legal age. Mary was 14 when god knocked her up so therefore the legal age would be 14 or god screwed a minor. But hey if you really need to fear a magic man in the sky to keep you from being an evil bastard.
is this video for real or is it just being sarcastic? if the world lived by the morals of the bible, all gay ppl would be dead, half human population would be enslaved to the other half, women would be treated a little bit better than slaves, and the entire world would be at war trying to force their religion to others. I laugh at the phrase "it takes belief to not believe", thats just a kids play of word, i dont believe and thats it, believing to not believing to believing is just stupid to say
Answer this... Say you have a 9 year old little girl. The wants to have sex with me... I accept. You walk in seeing me having intercourse with your little girl who WANTED it. You would be pretty pisses now wouldn't you? I guess you wouldn't care due to your "morality." Your a sick bastard you are.
Uiniformity in nature, i see that nature is cruel, not much more than that. Universal laws, people are sopilistic, nothing special there either. Human diginity, I dont know about you but i feel like im surrounded by assholes.
@vuturistic SOLPILSITIC means you can only know what you can know. A very narrow point of view based on your own experiences/ 5 sences/ brain washing from your culture. I probably spelled it wrong. Like if I was to say " If horses were able to worship a God, chances are their God would probably look like a horse." That would be a solpilistic point of view.
@flubno I believe the word you are referring to is 'sophistical' which is the adjectival form of 'sophistry' which (accordiing to Webster's) means "An argument that seems plausible, but is fallacious or misleading, especially one devised deliberately to be so." and that is certainly what we have here.
I think Morals came when people started living in close proximity with each other. When ancient people found out they could hunt better in groups than alone and started living in tribes. Conduct codes naturally began to form, with out the help of a God or Gods. It just would have been common snece. Basic Morality existed long, long, long before organized religion ! Organized religion just codified some thing they did n't create, just to get people to go along with their bullshit.
No sorry man you totally went wrong with this whole video. I dont really understand what you are trying to prove but i dont think any person wheter it be an atheist or theist that would suggest, when humans dont exist a point can be ''A'' and ''Non-A'' at the same time. You are simply trying to disprove atheism so hard, but it doesnt work this way. You are complicating matters that are very simple.
And you totally lost me at U. Somehow this is supposed to be shocking to atheists? Man today there are still religions in india that think the earth is a disc because otherwise we fall off. So dont act like this piece of science can be credited to god because he might as well have put that piece if information in the books then....
Also the religious have absolutely zero right to talk about animals as if they are holy. There are the hindu's and buddhists that actually do think about animals being holy aswell. But not christians and muslims. So can you yourself make a good arguement that the dog is more than a dog? Being an atheist that has had 2 dogs in 20 years i think i have more right to talk about the morality behind animals than christians and muslims. And if you cant figure out why then we have nothing to say to you.
you wrote down non-christian. You should have wrote atheist. As in the video you refer to atheists but yet you write down non-christian. So you are implying muslims, buddhists and hindus dont have moral basis either. Way to go making a video that already falls apart. Because honestly i dont believe you did that by accident. All the fundamentalists believe that their religion is the one that true. Simply because not all religions can be true.1 minute 30 seconds and already an endless discussion
Its amazing that people like exposed atheists still believe that drivel started by creationists that atheism is a faith or is faith based. If he were only smart enough to read up on it on sites that didn't spew the same creationist muck he would realize that atheism is merely the acceptance that there is a lack of evidence to support the existence of god. No faith required.
All I really have to say about this ludicrus video is the appropriatness of the title of the radio program it supports: The Narrow Mind. Got that right.
Accounting for the uniformity of nature is simple. It's called evolution. Morals? Simple. Whatever furthers the species = good, weakens = bad. Human dignity? What dignity? Have you paid attention to the depravity of the events in the world lately?
@camthejock Yes. It converted me as well. With its poor logic and reasoning, as well as fallacious straw-man arguments. Note the subtle sarcasm. That would fill an olympic swimming pool...
I would think that by now god should be getting immensely tired and frustrated over having to keep moving from knowledge gap to knowledge gap by his followers. Every time science answers or has a better explanation for his magic powers, Zoom off he goes being dragged by the religious. He is like a hunted fox continuously on the run hiding through out the universes dark holes and drainage ditches.
Only thing that is different about me and a christian is the fact that they pray and go to church. Also most of them try to shove religion up my face.
morality makes much more sense to me as a sophisticated societal health mechanism that has evolved over time rather than a set of rules given to us by a magical deity. Besides, the spr-natural claim can be so easily discounted by one simple fact: Social structure and the Morals that went with it existed way before the christian god popped up. A shallow delve into prehistoric history is all it takes to cleanse one's self of such ignorance. Either u want to believe or u want the truth. Ur choice
I don't really think that the god of the bible, a jealous homicidal and genocidal lover of burnt offerings and mutilating children by having their foreskins cut off, has anything to teach atheists about morality.
Lol. For people who claim to base their worldview on logic and science, I sure am seeing a lot of arbitrary responses loaded with emotional irrationality. Do you atheists have a legitimate refutation other than just making aggressive, emotional, statements?
Morality is based on what is best serves the members of a community, and in this case the "community" is the entirety of humanity. To maintain that the Bible is the word of God, providing absolute morality is to maintain that genocide may be moral, because the Israelites slaughtered others to conquer a land; that slavery is moral, because it is endorsed by the Bible, and that treating women as property is right because that also is clearly endorsed by the Bible.
Wow this is fd up that people actually think this. M- see Matt dillahunty's lecture on the superiority of secular morality. U- WTF u don't know what ur talking about. C- TAG fing doesn't work when r u going to learn. H- yes we r just another animal but we have evolved in close knit social structures which require valuing other humans. The people who value human life survive. Get pwnd Christianity u don't know what the he'll ur talking about.
Poor bastard, he thinks we atheist have FAITH?! Do you know what it means to be an atheist? What faith, for Christ sake? :) Why would anyone need religion to be a person of high moral standards who understands what human dignity is? Uniformity of nature and concept of universal laws is something religion denies and atheists embrace. You poor, poor fool, go back to elementary school and get a dictionary, find the word ATHEISM.
Watch a video of prof. Dawkins or Christopher hitchens. There are plenty, more reasonable, explanations of how morality came about. This guy has no idea what he is talking about. How about read something other then your bible?
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The difference in different religions were not God given but it so happened that the teachings of charity and patience is not liked by those who are in POWER so they try to change God's teachings to suit themselves.
When enough corruption has already occured in religious scripture, God sent another messenger with renewed teachings of forgotten or manipulated scripture.
CONTD
farzanatasneem 16 hours ago
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And the names of ancestral human fossils can't be taken too seriously.Like theology,paleontology is a field in which the students far outnumber the objects of study. There are lively—and sometimes acrimonious—debates about whether a given fossil is really something new, or merely a variant of an already named species.These arguments about scientific names often mean very little. Whether a humanlike fossil is named as one species or another can turn on matters as small as half a millimeter CONT
farzanatasneem 18 hours ago
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Whether a humanlike fossil is named as one species or another can turn on matters as small as half a mm in the diameter of a tooth, or slight differences in the shape of the thighbone.
..These arguments about scientific names often mean very little. WHETHER A HUMANLIKE FOSSIL IS NAMED AS ONE SPECIES OR ANOTHER CAN TURN ON MATTER AS SMALL AS HALF AMILLIMETER IN THE DIAMETER OF A TOOTH OR SLIGHT DIFFERENCE IN THE SHAPE OF THE THIGHBONE(Emphasis MINE).
Coyne, Why Evolution is True, 2009, page 197
farzanatasneem 18 hours ago
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According to theory of Evolution,one would expect the cytochrome C of a bacterium to be closer to the cytochrome C of a tuna (fish)than a horse (mammal). Furthermore, the horse should have the same mutations as the tuna, plus a few more. This is not what the molecular data shows.
The cytochrome C in bacteria is 64% different from horses and pigeons,65% different from tuna and silkmoths,66% different from wheat, and 69% different from yeast.Yet Atheists boast that every science proves evolution
farzanatasneem 18 hours ago
@farzanatasneem "The cytochrome C in bacteria is 64% different from horses and pigeons,65% different from tuna and silkmoths,66% different from wheat, and 69% different from yeast"
What makes you think that this is little similarity? How can you claim that about 60% difference is too much difference when comparing bacteria to fish or wheat? If about 60% is different, then about 40% is equal, that would mean about 40% equal between bacteriae, animals (fish, horse...) and vegetables (wheat).
caralhoman 10 hours ago
in ecclesiastes, the author is talking about the sun rises and goes down in a man's eye view prespective. It does not say about the sun revolving around the earth.
Voltar143 2 days ago
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@Voltar143 "in ecclesiastes, the author is talking about the sun rises and goes down in a man's eye view prespective"
Exacly, man's eye view perspective. Any sigh of a divine omniscience there?
Don't you think that if an allknowing intellect was behind the Bible, as christians and jews (the OT part for the jews) believe, this deity should induce the writer to describe things in a more accurate way that did not suggest the sun having motion and the moon being a source of light?
caralhoman 12 hours ago
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@caralhoman yourquotes about Isaiah, Samuel, Job and psalm are wrong. For example, in ancient hebrew the word circle is a sphere and not a flat disk. There is no such thing as a flat disk or even word to describe such thing in ancient language
your 1Samuel 2:20 dont say about pillars, in Job 22:14 talks about clouds and an invisible shield called atmosphere. the psalms are also correct, the earth does not move in its place in relation to the sun or distance and it held in it's place.
Voltar143 2 days ago
@Voltar143 "in ancient hebrew the word circle is a sphere and not a flat disk.There is no such thing as a flat disk in ancient language"
Do you know the difference between a soccer ball and a pizza? Do you know the difference beween the two shapes? Of course you do. You do and that is why you have a word "sphere" and "circle" in your language. Do you think the ancient hebrews were any different?
Not only the word is "circle" but the context support a flat circle (disk-like), not a sphere shape
caralhoman 10 hours ago
@Voltar143 "the psalms are also correct, the earth does not move in its place in relation to the sun or distance and it held in it's place"
Really? and is it what the Bible means? Or is it the interpretation that YOU give so you can continue believing that the Bible is really a book written under an allknowing influence?
Come on, be honest... The bible describes very clearly an Earth static with everything else moving around it. The notion of a "world that never moves" could not be more clear.
caralhoman 10 hours ago
@Voltar143 "your 1Samuel 2:20 dont say about pillars"
1 samuel 2:8, it is 8 not 20. It is clear there that the world is held by pillars. And there are other parts claiming so, but I will not go searching for them, this one is enought
"in Job 22:14 talks about clouds and an invisible shield called atmosphere"
In my language Job 22:14 is clear in describing the dome the covers the earth (compatible with a flat Earth, not spheric). The versions I checked said nothing of atmosphere (any language)
caralhoman 10 hours ago
@caralhoman
Atmosphere is the dome that covers the earth and it is a part of the sky that we see.
So if God says that sky covers the earth like a dome, there is nothing wrong in it but the only thing is that Atheists are quick in dismissing scriptures ; as they do not want to accept existence of God so a little difference in wordings is enough for them to stick to their illogical stance
farzanatasneem 5 hours ago
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@calhoman you quotes about Isaiah, Samuel, Job and psalm are wrong. For example, in ancient hebrew the word circle is a sphere and not a flat disk. There is no such thing as a flat disk or even word to describe such thing in ancient language
Voltar143 2 days ago
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you quotes about Isaiah, Samuel, Job and psalm are wrong. For example, in ancient hebrew the word circle is a sphere and not a flat disk. There is no such thing as a flat disk or even word to describe such thing in ancient language
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Ohh, there are times when the stupidity hits the mind so hard that you want to scream out of pain... ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID???!! THINK, please THINK before you speak!
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The basis for morality is reason. One can have an objective morality through reason. Next question? :D
TaylorThaHick 1 month ago
I stopped watching on letter M, did not even care to see the U,C, H.
Comparing atheists to Hitler, pedophiles and zoophiles? Are you not ashamed of striking this low? I mean, is this how you show how much your religion is right? by calling those that do not believe it things like zoophile child molesting nazis?
Pathetic
caralhoman 1 month ago 5
@caralhoman
Then you should not have commented on this video.
Comments should only be made after fully watching the video
farzanatasneem 4 days ago
@farzanatasneem "Then you should not have commented on this video"
The first 3 minutes the video state right away that due to me not believing some religion I am an immoral nazi who likes having sex with children and animals. Why should I watch it to the end? WHY?
When you want to know if the soup is any good, you do not need to eat the full pot, do you? You just try it with a spoon. That spoon is a sample. I had a 3 minute sample from this video.
Get it?
caralhoman 3 days ago
@caralhoman
Soup cannot be compared with a video
farzanatasneem 3 days ago
@farzanatasneem "Soup cannot be compared with a video"
I did not compare the video to soup. I compared the watching of 3 minutes of a 17 minute-long video with the tasting of 1 spoon of soup from a full bowl of soup. I meant SAMPLING, that is the taking of a small sample of a larger whole. "Comparing the video to soup"... My, you are not bright at all, are you?
"Flat earth in scriptures ??"
Yes, flat earth in scriptures. Flat Earth and many other errors which are not limited to astronomy.
caralhoman 2 days ago
Davey nice logical argument. there are no illogical fallacies in it and the statement is true. therefore this is a sound argument. A comeback would be illogical.
That1Troll 1 month ago
hitler was christian !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@bosanaczauvjek i see you dont know what a christian is.
davymatheny 1 month ago
@davymatheny lols good comeback bro
bosanaczauvjek 1 month ago
@bosanaczauvjek comeback?why was that supposed of been a insult?i was just stating a fact.hitler believed in evolution and he tried to kill the ''lower evolved species" of man so his evolved race could evolve further.this is a fact of history.so my point stands.
davymatheny 1 month ago
@davymatheny "hitler believed in evolution"
How does a creationist "believe" evolution?
"this is a fact of history"
No, not really. This is gossip that you heard somewhere. Preachers say this to their flock often, for instance, shortly before telling them to "fund God's work".
"i see you dont know what a christian is"
It is a person who believes in Jesus... and eventually hates jews because they killed Jesus. Are you just trying to pull out the good old "not a true christian" falacy?
caralhoman 1 month ago
@caralhoman hitler did believe in evolution.those who claim to be christians that believe in it doesnt believe what God said in the bible.a christian is supposed to be a follower of Christ not of man,thats a christian.we are not suppose to hate no one and the jews is Gods chosen people.so i dont know how you came up with that.i think you are very confused,its ok b/c many are.finding the truth must be searched not taught.
davymatheny 1 month ago
@davymatheny "hitler did believe in evolution"
Again, how can someone believe that God created Adam and Eve pure white arians also believe that there was no Adam and Eve because life evolves instead of spriting from the nowhere?
"i dont know how you came up with that"
I did not came up with that, christians did. Does "jews killed Jesus so they deserve punishment" sound any atheistic to you?
"i think you are very confused"
Me? it is you the one claiming that Hitler was not christian
caralhoman 1 month ago
@caralhoman from what the bible states a christian should do hitler was the opposite.so no he wasnt.adam and eve wasnt white.your life that washed up on a rock came from nowhere remember that.they are alot of misconceptions that with a little looking into one can find the truth.
davymatheny 1 month ago
@davymatheny "from what the bible states a christian should do hitler was the opposite"
The Bible states(altough implicitly)that all it needs to be a christian and go to heaven is to believe in Jesus, that is the only requirement to go to heaven, and that is exacly what Hitler did
"adam and eve wasnt white"
Tell this to Hitler
How can you complain of missconceptions when you say that evolution claims that life washes up rocks from the nowhere? That is pure misconception of evolution
caralhoman 1 month ago
@caralhoman yes we must be born again.not just some little prayer as alot of christians think.adam and eve was redish color.think about it.evolution in whole thinks we came from nothing.that itself is a religion because they are no proof.and non-living material became living.that also cant happen.
davymatheny 1 month ago
@davymatheny "evolution thinks we came from nothing"
Still missconcepted. Man, admit that you know nothing of Evolution. Just say that you believe Creationism because you will go to hell if you do not, that would at least be honest
"there are no proof [of evolution]"
Missinformed. Missconcepted and now missinformed too
"non-living material became living.that cant happen"
That is Abiogenesis, not Evolution. See? completely missconcepted
"adam and eve was redish color"
There is no red skin
caralhoman 1 month ago
@caralhoman ok,where did life evolve from?where did the planets come from?when you get to this point all evo guys says life came from nonliving matter.they are no red skin?lol tell that to the the Indians.
davymatheny 1 month ago
@davymatheny "where did the planets come from?"
See? Completely missinformed and missconcepted about evolution. What does the origin of planets have to do with evolution?
"life came from nonliving matter"
There is your answer
"they are no red skin?tell that to the Indians"
Red skin does not exist. Calling a native of american continent a "red skin" is just racism, just like saying that asians are yellow. Look at this /watch?v=J0bqcRJsikA do they seem any red to you?
caralhoman 1 month ago
@caralhoman why would you believe life came from nonliving matter?that isnt scientific.it doesnt happen now or isnt testable.so that makes it a religion,you must believe it happened.red,white,yellow,and so on are colors not race.just shows you dont know the difference between race and color.asians arent really yellow its just a tint.and yes indians do have a red tint,i should know im part indian!you dont know much of anything do you.
davymatheny 1 month ago
@davymatheny 1)
"you dont know the difference between race and color"
There is no race either. Red skin does not exist, only tones of brown. The natives painted their bodies red, nothing more. Saying that they have red skin is false and racist
Saying "Hitler believed evoltion" is ridiculous,what is that supposed to mean? He was imoral because he accepted evolution? He accepted evolution because he was imoral? Ridiculous in either case, evolution and morality have nothing to do with each other
caralhoman 1 month ago
@davymatheny 2)
"Why would you believe life came from nonliving matter?"
I do not. I think it is a reasonable explanation
"that makes it a religion"
No. A religion is based on belief even with evidence that show the belief to be wrong,while the theories of chemical origin of life are based on evidence. Also,religions consider disagreeing to be a heresy/blasphemy and punish/intimidate dissidents,do you see any scientist threatening you with eternal torture for questioning scientific theories?
caralhoman 1 month ago
@davymatheny 3)
"that isnt scientific"
Nothing like a religious bias with his talking snakes,holy gods and truths above our understanding(which sentence to eternal torture if questioned)to tell us what is science and what is not...
"it doesnt happen now"
Urey-Miller experiment and others.Get ACTUAL information about subjects that contradict your religion instead of just parroting what preachers tell you,do not just shoot like a machinegun every half-info and anti-science gossip that you hear
caralhoman 1 month ago
@caralhoman then how do you think life began?yes evolution is a religion in every word.also dont confuse science with evolution because evolution isnt science.hitler did believe in evo but he thought killing off every person who didnt have blond hair and blue eyes wasnt evolved and needed to be killed so his thought of race could evolve.
davymatheny 1 month ago
@davymatheny "then how do you think life began?"
I already told you.Chemical origin of life is the best explenation so far
"evolution is a religion in every word"
No,it is not and I already said the reason for which it is not
"evolution isnt science"
Yes,it is and I already said why it is
"hitler did believe in evo"
He did not and I already said why
"he thought every person who didnt have blond hair & blue eyes wasnt evolved"
So he thought himself was not evolved?Is this how he thinked?
caralhoman 1 month ago
@caralhoman
Even with the concept of evolution, there can be a distinct entity called man and the first man can be called as Adam and his wife as Eve.
There has to be some point where four legged non-upright ape gave birth to an upright walking human with different position of semicircular canals and Pelvis. This needs to be at the same time and place when a female of similar characteristics is born so that to breed with each other=Adam and Eve, peace be upon them both !
farzanatasneem 4 days ago
@farzanatasneem "Evolution as inspite of it being unscientific"
Why is it unscientific?
"it is propagated as scientific"
Well... religions propagate it as unscientific. The same religions that propagate as scientific the notion of a flat Earth covered by a dome and held static in the universe by pillars over a void with the sun orbiting around it.
"There has to be some point where four legged non-upright ape gave birth to an upright walking human"
No. That is not how evo is thought to work.
caralhoman 3 days ago
@caralhoman
Flat earth in scriptures ??
Can you quote any scripture that instructs mennot to walk on earth too far away as they will fall off ??
Or any scripture says that if you will walk very fast and far away you will reach a place from where you can climb the sky as two (Earth and sky) touch/meet each other at one point?
I do not think that any, again, any scripture says any such things.
Scriptures do describe the vastness of sky and earth but no clear unscientific statement !
farzanatasneem 3 days ago
@farzanatasneem "Can you quote any scripture that instructs men not to walk on earth too far away as they will fall off?"
Planet as a flat disk(Isaiah 40:22), held by pillars(1 Samel 2:20), covered by a dome(Job 22:14), static/immovable in the universe(psalms 104:5, psalms 93:1), the sun orbiting around it(ecclesiastes 1:5)...
"[scriptures have] no clear unscientific statement!"
ARE YOU JOKING?!?!?! Bats being birds instead of mammals, beetles walking on 4 legs, deseases caused by deamons...
caralhoman 2 days ago
@caralhoman
I am a Muslim and as a Muslim I know that what was revealed to Jesus, peace be upon him was truth, but was not preserved in its entirelty .
However I visited Christian sites and they state that many of those statements are mistranslated and I can accept that
I asked you:
Does it say :
Do not walk the earth FAR away so that you will not fall off the flat earth
If there was any such statement then it would have clearly an unscientific one .
farzanatasneem 18 hours ago
@farzanatasneem "I asked you:
Does it say :
Do not walk the earth FAR away so that you will not fall off the flat earth
If there was any such statement then it would have clearly an unscientific one."
And I replied to that already. I told you that no, there is NOT a verse that say such a think, but there are OTHERS that clearly depict a flat Earth, and not only flat but also with other absurd characteristics. I replied that a flat Earth IS part of scriptures.
caralhoman 10 hours ago
@caralhoman
DEPICT a flat earth is different than what we call a flat earth scientifically.
Scriptures were not sent to inform us about the phenomena causing night and the day.
Qur'an says at many place that God straightened out the earth for us to be able to live on it , anti-Islamists translate it as flat earth while what is meant by it is the surface of the earth which is levelled .
farzanatasneem 7 hours ago
@farzanatasneem "I know that what was revealed to Jesus,but was not preserved in its entirelty"
Jesus? What are you talking about? This has nothing to do with prophet Jesus. Flat earth and other absurdities about the universe are OT stuff
But since you mention Jesus, there are ones from him too, such as deseases being caused by deamons instead of bacteriae or viruses. If that one is misstranslated... well... who knows what else? Maybe the parts of killing the infidel wre misstranslated too,eh?
caralhoman 10 hours ago
@caralhoman
Jesus, the Prophet , peace be upon him did not say ALL diseases are because of demons, so there might be some sicknesses that are caused by them and as we cannot test demons, we cannot call it scientifically inaccurate.
Killing of infidels was revealed during wars and it is being misquoted to malign Qur'anic teachings and Islam
farzanatasneem 7 hours ago
@farzanatasneem And also, you did not answer why evolution is unscientific and you have not explained your absurd missconception of evolution which you have shown when you said that according to evolution " four legged non-upright ape gave birth to an upright walking human", an absurd which demostrates near total ignorance on the matter.
caralhoman 2 days ago
@caralhoman
Imagine about the transformation period of humans from primitive primates.
They walked horizontally, so their pelvis was straight while we walk upright so our pelvis are curved so that our Levator muscle supports abdominal organs from prolapsing while foetus has to undergo a rotatory movement during parturition.
This all is said to happen because of robertsonian translocation in apes
Robertsonian translocation gives rise to only malformed babies in humans
Isn't it MAGIC !
farzanatasneem 18 hours ago
@farzanatasneem I do not know this roberstonian translocation anomaly (and I have the feeling that neither do you) so I will not comment on it. What I can say is that evolution does not happen only in humans, it can be observed in other species and we have plenty of evidence to presume evolutionary process in nature. So if this specific mutation is incompatible with the human evolutionary process, then it is more likely for it NOT to take part in human evolution then evolution itself not exist.
caralhoman 10 hours ago
@caralhoman
Why do you have the feeling that I will not know Robertsonian translocation?
When some part of a chromosom is lost, it become sticky and can join the other chromosome.
If two ends of a chromosome are lost then those two ends will join with each other to create a ring chromosome.
These give rise to severe form of malformation and is mostly incapable of survival leading to foetal loss , so those with recurrent loss of foetus are asked to undergo chromosomal analysis to diagnose it
farzanatasneem 7 hours ago
@caralhoman
There are creationists who believe Evolution as inspite of it being unscientific, it is propagated as scientific.
So those who think science and religion are both correct, stay Theist while believing in evolution
farzanatasneem 4 days ago
brilliant!! awsome work and points... i swear atheists started this argument.. when we believers use the atheists language to prove Gods existance and have also show the flaws in the atheistic view all we get is complaints and ridicule lol
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@6gunwalker Which god or gods are you referring to in your comment, or are you referring to all of them?
dingodavid 1 month ago
What a silly video. This guy gets just about everything backwards.
Nazi Germany was an overwhelmingly Christian country, and the vast majority of Nazi soldiers were professing Christians. If miracles were real, it is then that we would not be able to predict that the Sun will rise tomorrow, because God might decide for some random reason to stop the rotation of the Earth. Evolution does not predict that whales would evolve into lizards. By all definitions, men are biological animals.
dingodavid 2 months ago
Total idiocy; a little question here for you (one of many): on this "uniformity of nature" concept, what about floods and tornadoes? Why, if they're predictable, are so many people surprised and killed in them? I love how you twist all this around and add just a pinch of science to make yourself feel better. Lastly, WHY do you need a god to tell you you're special? Evolution is a very fascinating and special concept to me.
jerico641 2 months ago
This guy frames his arguments so that his answers are the only answers; and there's no such thing as NAMBLA, by the way. See the lengths these religious people have to go to? They need to give it up and embrace common sense.
jerico641 2 months ago
Morality is our awareness of the social responsibility to make the choices that cause the least suffering.
I didn't watch much of your video but I have a question about bestiality, in cases where the animal wants to do it and isn't harmed like in your example of 'a man killing his neighbor's dog by having sex with it', what's immoral about it?
remember morality is about minimizing the undesired suffering being forced on minds, not... what offends you or your god
HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke 3 months ago
Yep. A god induced morality is the reason that chimps don't eat their own children, and it's the reason that soldier ants fight to the death to protect the colony. If chimps and ants didn't get their morality from some authority, their societies would collapse overnight just like the Roman empire.
eventhisidistaken 4 months ago
The uniformity of a christian moral with no dignity
maotzetof 4 months ago
Morality comes from the instinct to cooperate. The alternative instinct is to give no regard to the needs of others. Humans have evolved to survive through cooperation. In order to cooperate successfully, we need to avoid certain anti-cooperative behaviors.
That is the source of morality.
I did not bother to listen to the argument that you presented, because I was able to refute your premise instantly.
TheSmackerlacker 4 months ago
At about 200,000 years into it's expansion the Universe cooled sufficiently to just a few thousand degrees Kelvin and Energy and Matter were no longer in thermal equilibrium.. Radiation could then stream freely and Morality was created along with the lighter elements like Helium and Lithium..
GawdSwill 4 months ago
Even more on morals. We have reached a genetic point were we can form our morals not as evolutionary traits. Physically altering the way our minds think in order to embrace a new belief. Why? Again evolution. We have evolved to the point were much of our genetic processes that lower life forms like reptiles used to survive are no longer needed so what does an animal do when a genetic sequence is not needed it turns it off which is also why we don't have scales or gills or feathers. Everything a
dfox520 4 months ago
More on morals. Most higher animals would be days into starvation before eating there own kind. Lower animals like reptiles small mammals like rodents and some birds. Creatures of low intelligence will practice cannibalism why because genetically they have not reached that point where the understand it's wrong. how does it understand it's wrong. The same way those animals know what plants and animals they can eat.
dfox520 4 months ago
Also more about morality. Many people believe it is not moral to be gay. Let's look at this on a scientific level. Even animals will sometimes shun homosexual behavior why it has no benefit to the creation and growth of a group. Homosexuals can not produce children when allowed to practice there sexual wants. Our morals were formed through millions of years of evolution and continue to be formed.
dfox520 4 months ago
First a whale cant become a reptile it is a mammal that's taking an evolutionary step backwards. Second we have morals because of genetic advancement a wolf in a pack will not kill a wolf in the same pack unless that wolf shows mental or physical deformity that will not benefit the pack. Logic is not universal ever brain human or animal is different they do the same job but they all do it in slightly different ways otherwise we would all think act and believe in the same things 100% of the time
dfox520 4 months ago
In the first four minutes, he totally destroys his own argument by contradicting himself. He says that individual approval "runs into problems" by appealing to **most people would say that is immoral** But that argument itself is appealing to SOCIAL APPROVAL! He is using the very argument that he just said was incorrect 2 minutes earlier!
otonanoC 4 months ago
What a dickhead. Head stuck up his arse. Animals even know right from wrong
libertineinthemini 4 months ago
M = Morals, societies have been dictating and improving upon morals and ethics for a very long time. These secular morals keep Christians from burning Witches. Christian morals are ineffective as they fill U.S. prisons, but not the atheist. The Christian church is the largest supporter and defender of pedophiles.
U: Science is not need to dismiss Santa and Jesus. It is OK not to know everything, but that does not mean a god did it.
C: Man has developed these concepts.
H: We are interesting.
matthewtaylorbrown 4 months ago
to be honest the only part that seemed remotely cogent was the morality part. But then i dont know enough about morality and the fact that everything after that was unmitigated unrelenting complete bollocks though rather indicates if i knew more about morality i'd know that part was bollocks as well.
mrdarkevilme 5 months ago
@mrdarkevilme All socities have morals, even the Brazilian Paraha, who totally reject the supernatural. Consider a society of self interest and anarchy, and another of mutual trust and shared interest. Natural selection will sort any competition, assuming the anarchists can stop worrying about security long enough to compete. Transparently morals evolve, and continue to evolve. That's why we have a legislature.
Take your morals from the bible and you'll become a Nazi like Moses or Joshua.
gamesbok 4 months ago
Ugh.
I think that theists are trying to persuade atheists of their position use the same arguments over-and-over.
It's like they don't care what other people think.
dhx84 5 months ago
Ah the typical argument from ignorance, I don't know what did it therefore God did it. "Hey Mr theist your car is gone, God must have taken it" Later they found out it was stolen, just like how religion stole this guy's brain. God of the gaps, just because we don't have a full understanding of something now doesn't mean we won't have it later.
RH0D3Z 5 months ago
If moral behaviour comes from a god (or a special god as you claim) why don't little children behave morally? They beat themselves, steal lie etc
atheistfromaustria 5 months ago
What's the difference between believing in a the Greek or Roman gods compared to one God? It just seems like us trying to explain things that we don't understand. Why is there a new and old testament? If there is a god, why doesn't he speak to us directly? Why would someone who is all good let so many terrible things happen to good people? Will an atheist who does good to others his whole life go to hell while Jeffrey Dauhmer goes to heaven just for saying "sorry, my bad Jesus"?Sorry, no God.
CadeMcArtor10 5 months ago
@jinnwarior
Let's see if you're gona think the same about pedophilia if your kids will be victimes of it
thenetrider7 5 months ago
Haha. Claim a strawman and then build your own. Epic fail.
ZeroContentSF 5 months ago
if a 17 year old boy wants to sex up an old man, thats his choice. it's disgusting, sure, but that's not a foundation for what's wrong.
same goes for bestiality, of any kind.
just because something is looked down upon by society does not determine objective wrong. people don't like the idea of pedophilia, but in a natural sense it's biologically advantageous.
jinnwarior 5 months ago
if a 17 year old boy wants to sex up an old man, thats his choice. it's disgusting, sure, but that's not a foundation for what's wrong.
same goes for bestiality, of any kind.
point 2: change and uniformity aren't incompatible.
point 3: beyond my capability.
point 4: who ever said cannibalism was wrong? just because something is looked down upon by society does not determine objective wrong. people don't like the idea of pedophilia, but in a natural sense it's biologically advantageous.
jinnwarior 5 months ago
This is actually kind of funny... in that sad clown kind of way. Like a car accident that you can't stop looking at.
ErickW666 6 months ago
The degree to which this guy spouts bizarrely wrongheaded misunderstandings of philosophy, morality, and human nature is fractal-esque. The further you examine his statements, the more faulty assumptions arise...faulty assumptions resting on faulty assumptions resting on still more faulty assumptions...all the way down.
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Mogley52 6 months ago
C: The problem about things that are immaterial is that they only exist because there are humans who believe they exist. simply put the 2 is only there because we created the 2, if there were no more humans the 2 would be gone because it only exists in our mind.
doombow666 6 months ago
@doombow666 What?!? Are you kidding me?!?!? We aren't literally talking about that image in your head that you abstract from what you call a triangle. We're talking about if you ceased to exist, would that 3 sided polygon still be there? In the atheist universe, matter is all that exists. If you believe in things like abstractions then atheism fails as a worldview (a set of presuppositions). Abstractions aren't concrete, they aren't matter so give up on atheism.
niggaids 5 months ago
@niggaids
You're really claiming that religious people don't use abstractions? Wow. Good luck with that one.
Do you even know what you mean by "real"? Because we can say that abstractions are significant to us in the time that they operate, which is all anybody could expect -- hence real.
dhx84 5 months ago
H: we are just animals, look from above at an ant hill and then at a human society. The ants while in their nests are calm, protect their fellow ants, take care of offspring, fight wars and even communicate with each other just like humans. why do we not see this? Because we dont look! You say animals are so diffirent but when you spend a long time studying their behavior (like i have) you will c that humans and animals do alot of the same things.
doombow666 6 months ago
M: we get morals not only from social acceptance, but also from instinct. we simply do not like killing people becase killing our own species would be counterproductive for our species.
U: scientific testing DOES NOT require tomorrow to be the same as today, if things would suddenly fly away instead of fall down we would still be able to observe this, test why this is happening, form an answer based on these tests, test if these answers are correct and then form a scientific theory.
doombow666 6 months ago
@doombow666 Right...so if we get our morals from instinct whoever ever said nature got it right? What if I actually do like killing, what if i'm a psychopath and i literally enjoy inflicting pain. On what basis do you have to say you i got it right and I got it wrong? Your opinion (preference). It's literally worthless. 0+0+0+0+0 will always equal 0.
niggaids 5 months ago
@niggaids
Enter politics. The people interested in civilization more or less band together.
The problem is that theocracies and religious policies don't work, in spite of being awarded a "superior morality." And the religious are just as prone to the kind of social and individual approval talked about in the video.
dhx84 5 months ago
@niggaids
Hell, in the Bible, God is a psychopath.
The Bible even talks about owning women as property and slavery. And no, don't even go to the "out of context" argument either, since non-Jews are not indentured servants and even Jewish servants could be slaves under certain legal contingencies.
Why aren't Christian slavers now? Believe me, pastors certainly argued for slavery using just those passages in the Bible. It certainly wasn't because MLK was religiously inspired.
dhx84 5 months ago
oh and btw, if the bible is your source of morals, than i guess your ok with rape, murder, incest, slavery, and having sex with children...
whythegoatcries 6 months ago
this guy really doesn't understand science.... its kinda sad...
whythegoatcries 6 months ago 5
oh my... silly theists... by saying that without god we cant be moral, your basically saying your all naturally shitty people who cant just be good for the sake of being good....
whythegoatcries 6 months ago
If you need a book to teach you morals and dignity then you must have something wrong with you mentally. Religion causes problems, atheism solves them. (Go ahead religious people tell me I'm wrong and I'm going to hell)
seanpawn21 6 months ago
I'm Respectful, kind, smart, protective, smart, hard working and caring of everything, these are morals that I don't have because I am an Atheist, get the fuck over yourself.
billyp335 6 months ago
atheists can't account for anything.
mrtadreamer 6 months ago
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atheism destroys common sense and the ability the see reality as it is..
mrtadreamer 6 months ago
atheism destroys common sense ant the ability the see reality as it is..
mrtadreamer 6 months ago
Dude, all hes saying is that shit happens cause god said so.
kevin12161995 6 months ago
So pretty much.....haha, what he said is that we have no right morals, that most of us might be pediphiles and murders, oh by the way hitler was christian.
kevin12161995 6 months ago
wtf, stupid video. the bible is scum.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 6 months ago
So many things wrong with this it's hard to know what to say...but the narrator proved my point for me with the last line..."turn to god to be saved by your intellect."
And it's also funny that christianity's only answer to MUCH is....because god said so.
I rated like because videos like this only strengthen atheism.
Lemanski5000 6 months ago
Let's see, We have instincts, behaviors and cellular structure of animals. Yet according to you, we're nothing like animals because we are intelligent and creative. You realize every time there's a large conflict over a vital object (for the sake of argument let's say food), we kill each other for it (Competition)? Animals do the exact same thing.
Ramen86861 6 months ago
You really shouldn't use the bible to try and justify your M.U.C.H otherwise you will have to support slavery, stoning, genocide and rape. Hitler was a Catholic who used Jesus often to promote his evil and most of his SS were christian. Oh lets talk about legal age. Mary was 14 when god knocked her up so therefore the legal age would be 14 or god screwed a minor. But hey if you really need to fear a magic man in the sky to keep you from being an evil bastard.
Xatasha6611 6 months ago
is this video for real or is it just being sarcastic? if the world lived by the morals of the bible, all gay ppl would be dead, half human population would be enslaved to the other half, women would be treated a little bit better than slaves, and the entire world would be at war trying to force their religion to others. I laugh at the phrase "it takes belief to not believe", thats just a kids play of word, i dont believe and thats it, believing to not believing to believing is just stupid to say
MovieFusionist 6 months ago
Answer this... Say you have a 9 year old little girl. The wants to have sex with me... I accept. You walk in seeing me having intercourse with your little girl who WANTED it. You would be pretty pisses now wouldn't you? I guess you wouldn't care due to your "morality." Your a sick bastard you are.
Steelwall44 6 months ago
If the bible is so moral why does it back rape?
christinepeace 6 months ago
Uiniformity in nature, i see that nature is cruel, not much more than that. Universal laws, people are sopilistic, nothing special there either. Human diginity, I dont know about you but i feel like im surrounded by assholes.
flubno 6 months ago
@flubno Exactly what is it you are trying to say here? There is no such word as 'sopilistic' in the English language.
vuturistic 5 months ago
@vuturistic SOLPILSITIC means you can only know what you can know. A very narrow point of view based on your own experiences/ 5 sences/ brain washing from your culture. I probably spelled it wrong. Like if I was to say " If horses were able to worship a God, chances are their God would probably look like a horse." That would be a solpilistic point of view.
flubno 5 months ago
@flubno I believe the word you are referring to is 'sophistical' which is the adjectival form of 'sophistry' which (accordiing to Webster's) means "An argument that seems plausible, but is fallacious or misleading, especially one devised deliberately to be so." and that is certainly what we have here.
vuturistic 5 months ago
@vuturistic No, that's not it.
flubno 5 months ago
I think Morals came when people started living in close proximity with each other. When ancient people found out they could hunt better in groups than alone and started living in tribes. Conduct codes naturally began to form, with out the help of a God or Gods. It just would have been common snece. Basic Morality existed long, long, long before organized religion ! Organized religion just codified some thing they did n't create, just to get people to go along with their bullshit.
flubno 6 months ago
@Adamillionaire123 "Came from nothing"... You have got to be kidding me. I'm not even going to comment. Have a good day sir
ibreathexcellence 6 months ago
It's funny how every video on youtube where a person argues christianity has a majority of dislikes
ibreathexcellence 6 months ago
No sorry man you totally went wrong with this whole video. I dont really understand what you are trying to prove but i dont think any person wheter it be an atheist or theist that would suggest, when humans dont exist a point can be ''A'' and ''Non-A'' at the same time. You are simply trying to disprove atheism so hard, but it doesnt work this way. You are complicating matters that are very simple.
TheWeeaboo 6 months ago
And you totally lost me at U. Somehow this is supposed to be shocking to atheists? Man today there are still religions in india that think the earth is a disc because otherwise we fall off. So dont act like this piece of science can be credited to god because he might as well have put that piece if information in the books then....
TheWeeaboo 6 months ago
Also the religious have absolutely zero right to talk about animals as if they are holy. There are the hindu's and buddhists that actually do think about animals being holy aswell. But not christians and muslims. So can you yourself make a good arguement that the dog is more than a dog? Being an atheist that has had 2 dogs in 20 years i think i have more right to talk about the morality behind animals than christians and muslims. And if you cant figure out why then we have nothing to say to you.
TheWeeaboo 6 months ago
you wrote down non-christian. You should have wrote atheist. As in the video you refer to atheists but yet you write down non-christian. So you are implying muslims, buddhists and hindus dont have moral basis either. Way to go making a video that already falls apart. Because honestly i dont believe you did that by accident. All the fundamentalists believe that their religion is the one that true. Simply because not all religions can be true.1 minute 30 seconds and already an endless discussion
TheWeeaboo 6 months ago
This guy attempted to build a straw man and yet he still couldn't build an argument strong enough to destroy him.
sailcat9 6 months ago
To the Pastor who put this video together:
You're seriously arguing that atheism leads to teenagers fucking dogs???
Is it any wonder people are leaving religion in droves?
cufflink44 6 months ago
Its amazing that people like exposed atheists still believe that drivel started by creationists that atheism is a faith or is faith based. If he were only smart enough to read up on it on sites that didn't spew the same creationist muck he would realize that atheism is merely the acceptance that there is a lack of evidence to support the existence of god. No faith required.
quaentum 6 months ago
All I really have to say about this ludicrus video is the appropriatness of the title of the radio program it supports: The Narrow Mind. Got that right.
Dancinstan1 7 months ago
Accounting for the uniformity of nature is simple. It's called evolution. Morals? Simple. Whatever furthers the species = good, weakens = bad. Human dignity? What dignity? Have you paid attention to the depravity of the events in the world lately?
feralaesthetic 7 months ago
Anybody else not get past M because the voice went waaaaay to slow?
j4c300 7 months ago
Did any atheist actucally watch the video??
camthejock 7 months ago
@camthejock Yes. It converted me as well. With its poor logic and reasoning, as well as fallacious straw-man arguments. Note the subtle sarcasm. That would fill an olympic swimming pool...
feralaesthetic 7 months ago
I would think that by now god should be getting immensely tired and frustrated over having to keep moving from knowledge gap to knowledge gap by his followers. Every time science answers or has a better explanation for his magic powers, Zoom off he goes being dragged by the religious. He is like a hunted fox continuously on the run hiding through out the universes dark holes and drainage ditches.
scotttebben 7 months ago
Only thing that is different about me and a christian is the fact that they pray and go to church. Also most of them try to shove religion up my face.
Mcquiz91 7 months ago
You can't even converse with people like this. Let them wallow in their glorious and holy ignorance and go on to people who can still think.
t4705mb6 7 months ago
morality makes much more sense to me as a sophisticated societal health mechanism that has evolved over time rather than a set of rules given to us by a magical deity. Besides, the spr-natural claim can be so easily discounted by one simple fact: Social structure and the Morals that went with it existed way before the christian god popped up. A shallow delve into prehistoric history is all it takes to cleanse one's self of such ignorance. Either u want to believe or u want the truth. Ur choice
handom85 7 months ago
I don't really think that the god of the bible, a jealous homicidal and genocidal lover of burnt offerings and mutilating children by having their foreskins cut off, has anything to teach atheists about morality.
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daithesceptic 7 months ago
Lol. For people who claim to base their worldview on logic and science, I sure am seeing a lot of arbitrary responses loaded with emotional irrationality. Do you atheists have a legitimate refutation other than just making aggressive, emotional, statements?
Danthemanlyman7 7 months ago
Morality is based on what is best serves the members of a community, and in this case the "community" is the entirety of humanity. To maintain that the Bible is the word of God, providing absolute morality is to maintain that genocide may be moral, because the Israelites slaughtered others to conquer a land; that slavery is moral, because it is endorsed by the Bible, and that treating women as property is right because that also is clearly endorsed by the Bible.
WildwoodClaire1 7 months ago
Wow this is fd up that people actually think this. M- see Matt dillahunty's lecture on the superiority of secular morality. U- WTF u don't know what ur talking about. C- TAG fing doesn't work when r u going to learn. H- yes we r just another animal but we have evolved in close knit social structures which require valuing other humans. The people who value human life survive. Get pwnd Christianity u don't know what the he'll ur talking about.
zball333 7 months ago
Poor bastard, he thinks we atheist have FAITH?! Do you know what it means to be an atheist? What faith, for Christ sake? :) Why would anyone need religion to be a person of high moral standards who understands what human dignity is? Uniformity of nature and concept of universal laws is something religion denies and atheists embrace. You poor, poor fool, go back to elementary school and get a dictionary, find the word ATHEISM.
TheRealFilox 7 months ago
The opening credits made me think it was bitch slapping christians.
The have no morals or conscience, they need them from an outside source.
Nature is nature as we would expect if no creator had done it.
Laws of science are well know and used everyday.
Human dignity again something history and the news shows us christians don't understand at all.
Then up comes the CHRISTIAN HITLER and now we have Anders in Norway to add to the list.
VideoAudioDisco09 7 months ago
i hope this video is troll baiting.. -______-
TheEveryhingGuy 7 months ago
In the immortal words of Tom Araya (a two-time cancer survivor):
Religion is Hate
Religion is Fear
Religion is War
Religion is Rape
Religion is Obscene
Religion's a Whore
There' s some fucking morals for 'ya...
Monkeebiznus13 7 months ago 34
@Monkeebiznus13 You're so wrong. The formula is religion + politics = corruption. Religion by itself isn't a bad thing
IfUrGivingIn 6 months ago
@Monkeebiznus13 It's not supposed to be about religion anyways... just your own personal connection with God =D
oscarmarin1995 5 months ago
134 people eat babies for breakfast.
Efrax86 7 months ago
Watch a video of prof. Dawkins or Christopher hitchens. There are plenty, more reasonable, explanations of how morality came about. This guy has no idea what he is talking about. How about read something other then your bible?
thinkboutit 7 months ago
Can't tell if trolling or if really violent and stupid.
monkeyshine89 7 months ago