"The Flanker's Irbis-E radar is indeed far more powerful than the Raptor's APG-77." Excellent! The more powerful the radar, the more easily detectable it will be to AWAC's type aircraft. Think about it this way: you have someone coming after you at night looking for you with a powerful flashlight. You can spot him first before he sees you. In that way, you can kill the man with the flashlight first.
Yes me friend, but 30 Nautical miles is still like more than 50 Km wich is still really big range, you cant shoot missiles at so much distant, the enemy will just turn 180 and run away and missiles launched will eventually be out of fuel and explodes in the air..
f22 c**k suckers still dont get there is NO stealth against this Sukoi.....by the way a russian made stealth technology like 30 years ago and he told it to usa
But the funny part of it all is that all 20 F-35 are still standing too rusty. Now they are 186 F-22 still and 20 F-35 still, all fighters are still invisible
"Craptor"...These Russian fanboy vids are so funny. The RCS of a Raptor is not 0.001m^2, you need to insert another zero to get into the ballpark. The IRBIS-E would have horrible detection range against the Raptor, and if the unstealthy Flanker radiates it will be even easier to pick up with the Raptor's passive sensors.
@AgentxAnonymous but even if you can I do not think that the missiles invisible so you do not have use to shot from long distance, you can easily over maneuver it
@pR05t0 to reduce the it's RCS. putting canards can severely increase its RCS, making it a sitting duck against BVR missiles. also, this Su-35BM is lighter, so it has the same maneuverability like the old Su-35, and it doesn't need canards.
IRBIS-E Snow Leopard doesn't had superiority over APG-77 v 1. So nice tried ricjan33. Ausairpower say Irbis-e doesn't claim superiority over APG-77 v 1.
Most of us know that russian technology was hyped by the U.S and British. Now the cold war is over we can't justify these lies for defence expenditure. The fact remains Russian engines and Rockets are good, flight control systems and weapon guidance are 1950's.
F-22 Raptor AESA Radar the AN/APG-77 (v) 1 is way superior and advance than Su-35BM Super Flanker AESA Radar the IRBIS-E! The AN/APG-77 could track 100 targets compare to IRBIS-E only track 30 target. AN/APG-77 Radar Warning Receiver track 463 km or more. Also 125-150 miles (200-240 km) against 1 m2 (11 sq ft) targets (estimated range). The IRBIS-E only track 400 km against 2 m2. I guess ricjan33 is really stupid. I got proof while he doesn't had any proof that IRBIS-E is superior than AN/APG-77
I think the PESA Irbis is more powerful, but people forget that it doesn't matter since the F-22 is stealth and has an LPI AESA. Against the F-22, it's pretty much a giant "shoot here" sign. However, the Su-35 should be able to search with its IR and communicate with AWACS, etc. However, the F-22 still has the advantage since its radar is LPI.
Do you have any sources on the AN/APG-77 performance? I'd like to see it if you do.
ROFLMFAO - If China took 2 F-22s then I'm second jesus christ... and if by any chance your claim is true then when was that and which airplane or SAM they used? J-10 LOL
Chinese can't build a decent engine yet alone to shoot down 2 F-22s
Anyways, I'd love to see Russia to take part in Red Flag exercise if that's possible. In that case USAF and RuAF would know for a fact which airforce has better "birds"
so the video of the chinese took 2 f22 is faked is that what you mean?okay look at the blue and red team results.maybe china can not make a sam that able to track the f22 but russ can i think.
Irbis-E radar is no way near as good as the an/apg-77 on the F-22.
Irbris-e is an older type PESA radar, vs. a modern AESA radar found on the F-22.
At 125 miles the Irbris can detect a 3 m2 object, howver at the distance the F-22 is said to have an RCS somewhere aroun .002 m2. That means the Irbris-E wouldn;t be able to detect the F-22 until about 25nm away.
Mean while the f-22's AN/APG-77 radar would have locked onto the Su-35bm at about 250nm away.
Problem with your idea is that if F-22 uses its radar it discloses itself. If radar is turned on, it gets intercepted and appears on a radar of Su. F-22 is designed to operate using an AWACS to survey the area and send the F-22 the picture via datalink. Without someone beaming it the picture it has to use its own radar and hence negate its stealth advantage. AWACS is VERY vulnerable to SAMs especially SA5, SA-10, SA20 and SA-21 so would be used sparingly. So F-22 isn't not that hard to find.
it's not like wether the f-22 will turn the radar on or off..the apg-77 will detect and lock on the su-35bm before the su-35 even knows there's an aircraft around..
the biggest problem to russians now is the small rcs of the f-22...X band radars can detect it but it will be late as hell,,i heard there will be an AESA radar to install in the su-35 soon,,and i heard also that russians now are developin' the radars that works on the L band..!! plus improvin' their OLS systems
THe AESA rada on the raptor changes it's frequency in X-band 1000's of times a second. Irbis-e is a pesa radar wic does not work in X-band. Also to remember PESA radars frequency change is pretty poor, around 100 in about 5 seconds. SO trying to detect an AESA radar i very very unlikely.
AWACS flies100's of miles away from the theatre, so no need to worry about SAM's. F-22 Is capable of performing fowards air controller missions.
AESA radar on the raptor changes it's frequency in X-band 1000's of times a second. Irbis-e is a pesa radar does not work in X-band. Also to remember PESA radars frequency change is pretty poor, around 100 in about 5 seconds. SO trying to detect an AESA radar i very very unlikely.
AWACS flies100's of miles away from the theatre, so no need to worry about SAM's. F-22 Is capable of performing fowards air controller missions.
AESA on the other hand is useless against stealth craft, which is why it isn't found on the Sukhoi although Phazotron does produce AESA
Irbis is designed to detect small objects moving fast which is how F22 appears on radar, and the Sukhoi would lock on at about 100nm
The F22 cannot use it's APG77 radar at full range without making itself known, so it can't really lock onto anything farther than 50nm at which point the passive radar can lock on
yeah right - radar. russians made stronger radar while USAF simply uses AWACS which share the info with F-22s computer. stronger radar means that plane which uses it is easier to detect - same as the ground AA defenses which have to switch on and off their radar so they don't get detected. F-22 has impressive record against F-15E (the most successful aircraft with ratio of 100+ kills and 0 losses) in sim. fights. I'm not American(4 the record) but somehow I doubt that Su-35 is better than F-22
It isn't better. Its designed to beat the gen-4 fighters. Its gen4++ and can beat all gen4 planes in existence. To compete with F-22 there is a 5-gen fighter being made by MiG and Su. Its already flown. However its still Top Secret and will be revealed when it will be officially accepted into RuAF
They stated that it flown but all the details are secret. Thats what i meant. As for radar interception i must have missaid something. Its not only radar that detects things. RWR does too and warns pilot. As for AWACS, It has to fly within roughly 200km from frontline to be able to timely warn fighters of incoming enemy. Too close for safety from S-300PMU2, S-300PMU1 and S-400. F-22 gets cued via datalink to targets, without that, its stealth is blown away by its radar use. multi-freq scanning.
depends on how fast the freq scan happens on RWR. Some RWR systems today have multiple scanners and scan several freq at once. But yet again: low probability yes but HOW low? Its all relative.
I'm not bagging F-22. Just merely stating that there are plenty of ways to detect it before it enters a useful missile range. Just cos missile range is say 200km doesn't mean that thats from how far you fire at another fighter.
It's not just a matter of being able to scan all frequencies, the freq jump is random, so even if something is picked up, it may not be identified as a threat, but as noise. I don't know how low the F-22's PI is, but I'm sure it's low enough to greatly reduce the ability to detect the plane.
I'm very aware that max range is not when you fire a missile, but the F-22 isn't going to fly straight in and hope it's not seen. Tactics will be a part of it to, take a route that is stealthy.
Also, yes maneuvers effect stealth, but overall, the F-22's RCS is going to be low, and the chance it's detected is low. And like I said before, tactics. Avoid the enemy radar, limit movements to only those necessary.
YOu ain't gonna hear argument from me. In my opinion comparing Su-35 to F-22 is actually an incorrect thing since they are from different generations. F-22 would be comparing to PAK-FA when its deployed. It is harder to detect F-22 then a gen-4 plane. I'd love to see F-22 radar detection range vs RSC graph.
In Oz we can see all planes in the air with OTH radar. Range of detection HUGE. L-band renders RCS and RAM irrelevant.
The F-22 was design for all aspect multi frequency stealth. The F-35 is the one that is limited primarily to X band. The Su-35's L band will probably aid in tracking the F-22, but it will not completely negate its stealth. Also, even in the F-22 is detected, it can beat the Su-35. The F-22's performance is not stealth dependent at all.
f22 and f3 is only stealth at x band the band tat mainly russia use there is not an aircraft who can be stealth from a to q band its simply a constructive matter nothing more the ram particle isnt nanoeffective
Replace the ",' with "." and remove spaces. Scroll down to stealth shaping, their main concern is how the F-35 is X band only, while other stealth fighters aren't. RAM is not the issue, it is wave mechanics, when λ is less than the characteristic size of something, controlled scatter is difficult, but it does not mean stealth is completely blown away.
my god just restart your mind i think that it need a defragment..
there are two ways to discover a stealth one is to the airplane to carried out weapons in external hooks and the other is from the exaust heat
+ that is no matter now coz whoever has the mica ir in their weaponry is a stealth killer fire and forget missile without needed lock from the plane...
Stealth applies to all emissions (in the case of F-22, B-2, F-117, and F-35), IR included. Again, IR is not an automatic stealth killer. IR has low detection range and poor performance in bad weather. MICA IR, R-77T, whatever, they will not prove insurmountable to stealth fighters planes as the planes were designed to counter these things from the start.
That`s funny because stealth has bad performance in bad weather too. The F22`s RAM coating for example is easily damaged by rain thus making it much easier to spot for all-weather Su35`s
The F-22 can fly in any weather with no degradation in performance. You are thinking about the F-117 and B-2 which relied on RAM heavily. The F-22 and F-35 do not, and can fly in all weather easily. The F-22 has operated in Alaska and Guam without any negative effect on stealth by weather.
No it isn't, the plane was rained on in Guam and suffered no loss of stealth effectiveness, from the beginning the USAF knew that not having all weather capability would make the plane much less effective so it was requirement that the plane had to perform in all weather.
its bvr and f22 dont have the capability to discover those missile(basicly noone aircraft can discover them because they are in silent mode until they reach within 5nm of the target)
According to this video there isn't proof that IRBIS-E is superior than APG-77. Where is the proof the last time I check on ausairpower website they say that there isn't proof that IRBIS-E is far superior than APG-77.
How much longer with the battle for air supremecy be fought by piloted planes? Drones can fly without the restriction on G force human limitations. The Predator is beginning to show the effectiveness of Drone warfare. I am not military nor am I a war monger... I am just an American who sees the inevitable progress of technology. Let's hope for peace and turn swords back into plowshares.....
actually US is losing its edge when it comes to air power russia china and india are advancing faster than US. Even one of th air force general stated it.
Oh please Russia & China haven't prove a worthy air force in the sky. The last time I check USA fighter aircraft blast your Sukhoi/Mig fighter out of the sky of Korea, Vietnam, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Iraq, & Serbia. Soo much for advancing faster aircraft than USA. Russia & China fighter aircraft are still weak & less advance then USA.
Obviously, USAAIRPOWER you're prejudiced. Moreover, cold war was not the 3rd world war, simply because it didn't encompassed the whole globe and because there were not any open confrontations between US and USSR soldiers, whereas, the 3rd world war will kill about 2 billion people.
Furthermore, how can you state that the country is weak if it has nukes as much as US has. If there hadn't been mutual deterrence, the Earth would already have died. US would've attacked, as you said, weak Soviet Union (recollect the plan of Allen Dulles for instance). But they didn't, 'cos they were scared. And USSR didn't lose the cold war to USA, it lost it to itself. Finally, there can't be any impartial speculations about superiority of any aircraft before they meet each other face to face.
Russian Mig-15, Mig-17, Mig-19, Mig-21, Mig-23, Mig-25, Mig-29, Mig-33, Mig-31, Mig-35, Su-27, & Su-30 fail to become King of The Sky & Air Dominant. In order to be King of The Sky you must destroyed over 100 enemy aircraft in war, beat your rival in real air combat, maintain air dominance as you can for long & even more than decades. Also beat next generation fighter aircraft like Stealth in real air combat.
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King of The Sky:(Generation)
(1) P-51 Mustang (1942-1949)
(2) F-86 Sabre (1949-1960)
(3) F-4 Phantom (1960-1976)
(4) F-15 Eagle (1976-2005)
All these fighter aircraft have proven a worthy, destroy over 100 enemy aircraft in war, bet their rival in real air combat, air dominance, & had been crown King of the sky. F-15 Eagle was the only fighter aircraft never shot down by another fighter aircraft in real air combat. F-15 Eagle pass it's crown to F-22 Raptor to become next King of The Sky.
When did the F-4 and F-15 ever face off against a superpower. Attributing dominance to the fact that all they have done is kill pilots from banana republics is not so honorable. The planes aren't good because they're better machines than what the russians have, its because they have better pilots than the armies they have faced.
Russian Fighter pilot are weaker than USA & India pilot. USA Fight pilot flying F-86 Sabre shot down a lot Russian, Chinese, & North Korean Fighter pilot flying Mig-15 Fagot. Don't mess with F-15 & F-4 because they will knock you out of the sky. F-15 is the King of The Sky.
I'm sorry what grade are you in? (if you're American) You write like you are 12. US pilots have never fought against Russian pilots. Or please, by all means, remind me which war the Americans and Russians fought against each other.
I'm America by the way your not fucking 23 years old. First of all US pilot did fought against Russian pilots during Korean War. Duh! America pilot were flying F-86 Sabre while Russia fly Mig-15 Fagot.
The Korean War, moron. It is no secret on either side that RUSSIAN pilots flew in North Korean Migs. The North did not have many good pilots. Russian pilots flew for their side. And we kicked their asses.
In a first time only. But the Russian pilots returns to home,and after that MiG fighters flew by Koran and Chinese pilots. And Russians are more better than Koreans, and they have good scores. Yevgeny Pepelaev shot down 23 US fighters,in a first time of korea war. And after that he go back to USSR and replaced by a Korean rookie. Russian pilots in the kora war was very godd,but the koreans are not. Thats the reason why USA could win the kora war in air.
Su-35 may carry more missiles than F-22. Well guess what it doesn't matter. F-16 carry less missiles than F-15. F-16 manage to beat F-15 at Red Flag. Number of Missiles doesn't matter. F-22 Raptor is going be next King of the Sky & Air dominance on every country. Russia Su-27, Su-30, & Su-35 never seeing in air combat, never destroyed over 100, & beat rival in real air combat. You can't called your self the best & powerful fighter aircraft in the world including King of the sky & Air Dominance.
F-22 Raptor can dodge Su-35 missiles like AA-12 Adder. Su-35 tried to track F-22 Raptor with heat seeking missiles like AA-11 Archer is going be worthless. There is one main reason why F-22 Raptor had a thin covering afterburner to prevent any heat seeking missiles from track it. Su-35 doesn't stand a chance against F-22 Raptor in real air combat. F-22 Raptor could beat Su-35 by firing AIM-9X. Flares & Chaff are going be useless. We study about AA-11 Archer thanks to former East Germany Mig-29.
Su-35 Super Flanker may be bigger than F-22 Raptor but guess what size doesn't matter. A little guy could out smart a big guy or stronger than him. Do not underestimated F-22 Raptor in real air combat. Su-35 only could beat F-22 in NATO War game exercises or Pacific Vision only because F-22 Raptor doesn't show it's true performance, radar, & everything. Just like during Red Flag, IAF Su-30MKI doesn't show everything. You mess F-22 in real air combat & he will knock you out of the sky.
Your wrong ricjan33. F-22 Raptor radar APG-77 is way far powerful than Irbis-E. F-22 Raptor radar could track multiple targets & also track enemy aircraft from 200-240 km. Su-35 IRBIS-E could track one target at a time & also track enemy aircraft from 200 km. IRBIS-E can't track Stealth Aircraft. F-22 Raptor stealth is very stealthiest. F-22 used new form of Stealth called Planform Alignment it cover by Plasma to put F-22 invisible to radar & inferred. F-22 Raptor is Superior than Su-35.
The description said the Su35 radar is more powerful than F-22. I doubt it the Su35 radar is not even AESA radar, the russian should put AESA radar in their fighters if they want to sell more of them.
F-22 has never been near dogfights'. Remeber that they cancelled production of raptors one year ago. The tremendous cost this airplane have are staggering. Therefore, it's a risk of using this aircraft in places like Iraq and afghanistan or any place around the world. There're currently 187 active Raptors out there and it appears that DoD has no financial support to continue to elaborate this aircraft. That's why Su-35 is better and much more cheaper in many ways
I have respect for Russian aircraft, in fact, the Su-35BM is one of my favorites, but I have to say if it were my life in stake, I'd take the stealth aircraft. And I hate to break it to you guys, but the F-22's frontal RCS is about "0.00016m2", not .001. I might put my money on the Su-35BM in the dogfight, but I'd take the raptor anywhere else. Just my 2 cents.
Guys, objectively Su-35 concedes F-22 on many parameters. And surpasses only in range of flight, to the weapon and a maneuverability. Perhaps, our plane also can be opponent F-22, but eventually compare these machines incorrectly. The raptor is 5 generation, instead of modernized 4. But at present Su-35 strongly keeps 2 place among fighters.
Su-35 BM is a superb machine, no doubt about that... however, it is no match to the raptor which is a 5th generation fighter 'cause that machine is labelled by sukhoi as a 4++ aeroplane... i like russian airplanes but we have to admit that the raptor has to that date, no rival... it may change with the arrival of the pak-fa, but...
@N1cholas240 youre just jealous stupid fuck hahaha, go suck your usa masters dick cocksucker, canadian fuck go bury yourself with your cancelled arrow pos fighter dicksucker
If Raptor is operating over a region where Russian longtidunal radars are stationed, then the Su 27BM won't even need its radar. It will be just guided from ground. Also, you forget about the IRST, which can detect the Raptor from a range of about 80km(thats the distance from which the IRST on the original Su 27 could detect MiG 21)
I like the Su-35 as much as anyone else, but the truth about the F-22 is that it lives up to all the hype they've given it. The flipside is that the F-22 is so good at longer range engagements that it's not very interesting as a plane.
@UncivilizedMan news for you pak fa is here to stay and it can eat craptors for breakfast , craptor is just overrated over propaganda piece of shit hahah
For an upgraded version of the aircraft capable of performing "super cobras" that video is lame. Seeing the F-22A in flight, I realised that is quite a competition for the Flankers in acrobatics. I certainly hope that Sukhoi will REALLY impress us again with NEW demonstrations off the Su-35BM, showing the true potential of this baby instead of showing that it can actually fly (like if there was ant dought).
This is one very "standing" video. =p
millardcasey24 3 weeks ago
Your video is a favorite on Maldives
olbywong717c 1 month ago
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JURANDIRDOMINGOS 2 months ago
"The Flanker's Irbis-E radar is indeed far more powerful than the Raptor's APG-77." Excellent! The more powerful the radar, the more easily detectable it will be to AWAC's type aircraft. Think about it this way: you have someone coming after you at night looking for you with a powerful flashlight. You can spot him first before he sees you. In that way, you can kill the man with the flashlight first.
TheRadioman1976 4 months ago
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Yes me friend, but 30 Nautical miles is still like more than 50 Km wich is still really big range, you cant shoot missiles at so much distant, the enemy will just turn 180 and run away and missiles launched will eventually be out of fuel and explodes in the air..
Thecampercz 4 months ago
f22 c**k suckers still dont get there is NO stealth against this Sukoi.....by the way a russian made stealth technology like 30 years ago and he told it to usa
mauricioalfredo83 4 months ago
way better than the F-15.
The F-22 requieres 30 hours of maintence for every hour flying.
in my opinion the Su-35 is a way better plane than any of these
qbonumber1 5 months ago 2
But the funny part of it all is that all 20 F-35 are still standing too rusty. Now they are 186 F-22 still and 20 F-35 still, all fighters are still invisible
ricjan33 5 months ago
The US Air Force has stopped flying all Lockheed Martin F-22s for an indefinite period, shashashasha
ricjan33 6 months ago
All F-22 aircraft of Wonder Woman are all rusted stuck indefinitely shit shashashashasha
ricjan33 6 months ago
What a gorgeous aircraft. Needs canards, though! I wonder why they haven't made them standard-
EkulGgats 1 year ago
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F-22 RAPTOR THE BEST IN THE WORLD
MegaILIRIA 1 year ago
@MegaILIRIA SU 35BM IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD!!!!
GreekArmy57 9 months ago
NATO may call this warbird flanker E but for me its Terminator
Elfulcrum777 1 year ago
The Su-35BM and F-22A are both impressive aircraft and I pray we never see them duke it out, unless its an international airshow
ACX2008 1 year ago
isnt the su 35 bm the finished version of the su-37 prototype?
wierdosinc 1 year ago
"Craptor"...These Russian fanboy vids are so funny. The RCS of a Raptor is not 0.001m^2, you need to insert another zero to get into the ballpark. The IRBIS-E would have horrible detection range against the Raptor, and if the unstealthy Flanker radiates it will be even easier to pick up with the Raptor's passive sensors.
JimRaynor55 1 year ago
@JimRaynor55 The RCS of a Raptor is not 0.001m^2,
Your right the RCS of a f-22 is 0.0001m2. 0.001M2 is a F-35 rcs.
N1cholas240 1 year ago
correction the F-22's RCS is .0001m^2 which the Su-35BM can detect at 20 km
1990PatMorrison 1 year ago
the best best best and beautiful combat aircraft!!! russian aircraft is the best
sergiobaires367 1 year ago
I think a lot of people don't know that the US fighters can't engage beyond visual range, so that completely screws the F22 superiority theory...
AgentxAnonymous 1 year ago
@AgentxAnonymous
On the contrary, all modern US fighters are built for BVR engagement. What the F-22 does lack is good IRST for comparatively closer engagements.
illogicallyinclined 1 year ago
@AgentxAnonymous but even if you can I do not think that the missiles invisible so you do not have use to shot from long distance, you can easily over maneuver it
tramvaj12 1 year ago
The F22 can barely keep up with the F-15. Not to put down the Eagle, but these next gen Su's are jew dropping.
Then need to put 2D thrust vectoring on these..
AgentxAnonymous 1 year ago
@AgentxAnonymous Jaw *
AgentxAnonymous 1 year ago
@AgentxAnonymous
If memory serves, all Su-35s have full 3d thrust vectoring based on the prototype Su-37, as opposed to the F-22's 2d thrust vectoring.
illogicallyinclined 1 year ago
The Su-35 has been estimated at over $60 million, the F-22 costs $143 million.
KARASAWA40 1 year ago
i'd prefer to listen imperial march from starwars ))
38602 1 year ago
why is has no canards?
pR05t0 1 year ago
@pR05t0 to reduce the it's RCS. putting canards can severely increase its RCS, making it a sitting duck against BVR missiles. also, this Su-35BM is lighter, so it has the same maneuverability like the old Su-35, and it doesn't need canards.
old Su-35 with canards' RCS = 20+m2
Su-35BM's RCS = 0.7-0.9m2
thats a damn big difference.
itom95 1 year ago
@itom95 thats right, thats a lot of square meters... hope they know what they are doing ;)
pR05t0 1 year ago
IRBIS-E Snow Leopard Export Only (Su-35BM)
-Effective tracking range for RCS = 3 m2 target:(350-400 km)
-Target number of TWS at the same time:(30 Targets, engage 8 aerial targets)
-Coverage in Elevation:(60 degrees)
-Azimuth coverage boosts to (120 degrees.)
-Small Air Target Detection Range 90 km (49 nm)
-Antenna Diameter:(900 mm)
SilentEagles 1 year ago
@SilentEagles
Really how is the APG-77 superior to NO35 Ibris?
N035 Ibris detection of RCS 3m2= 400km
APG-77 detection of RCS 3m2= 270-300km
N035 Ibris detection of RCS 1m2= 300km
APG-77 detection of RCS 1m2= 210km
N035 Ibris detection of RCS 0.1m2= 165km
APG-77 detection of RCS 0.1-0.3m2= 150km
N035 can detect RCS up to 0.01m2 of 90km and the APG-77 cant
SpetsnazPower 1 year ago
APG-77 v 1 Part 2:
-Performing A-A and A-G modes at the same time:(Yes)
-Low Probability of Intercept Radar capability:(Yes)
-High speed capability of Data-link/communication:(Yes)
-Advanced functions for Microwave-weapon / CPU virus spreader/ Net-Hacker:(Yes)
SilentEagles 1 year ago
APG-77 v 1 (F-22 AESA radar)
-Effective tracking range for RCS = 1 m2 target:(200-240 km planned upgrades will allow a range of 250 miles (400 km) or more in narrow beams.)
-Target number of TWS at the same time:(100 aerial/ground targets)
-Horizontal tracking angles:(+/- 60 degrees (May equip conformal lateral AESA in the future)
-Style of antenna:(AESA, 2,000 T/R)
-MTBF (mean time between failures):(800~1,000 hrs)
SilentEagles 1 year ago
IRBIS-E Snow Leopard doesn't had superiority over APG-77 v 1. So nice tried ricjan33. Ausairpower say Irbis-e doesn't claim superiority over APG-77 v 1.
SilentEagles 1 year ago
in vietnam the "ace" was northvietnam pilot not an american
hospitalerknight 2 years ago
Most of us know that russian technology was hyped by the U.S and British. Now the cold war is over we can't justify these lies for defence expenditure. The fact remains Russian engines and Rockets are good, flight control systems and weapon guidance are 1950's.
farecars 2 years ago
@farecars Arschloch
959735 2 years ago
F22 is dead
APACA 2 years ago
F-22 Raptor AESA Radar the AN/APG-77 (v) 1 is way superior and advance than Su-35BM Super Flanker AESA Radar the IRBIS-E! The AN/APG-77 could track 100 targets compare to IRBIS-E only track 30 target. AN/APG-77 Radar Warning Receiver track 463 km or more. Also 125-150 miles (200-240 km) against 1 m2 (11 sq ft) targets (estimated range). The IRBIS-E only track 400 km against 2 m2. I guess ricjan33 is really stupid. I got proof while he doesn't had any proof that IRBIS-E is superior than AN/APG-77
USAAIRPOWER 2 years ago
I think the PESA Irbis is more powerful, but people forget that it doesn't matter since the F-22 is stealth and has an LPI AESA. Against the F-22, it's pretty much a giant "shoot here" sign. However, the Su-35 should be able to search with its IR and communicate with AWACS, etc. However, the F-22 still has the advantage since its radar is LPI.
Do you have any sources on the AN/APG-77 performance? I'd like to see it if you do.
KARASAWA40 2 years ago
zizo847 cut the crap
Frbymic 2 years ago
china took down 2 f 22.
zizo847 2 years ago
ROFLMFAO - If China took 2 F-22s then I'm second jesus christ... and if by any chance your claim is true then when was that and which airplane or SAM they used? J-10 LOL
Chinese can't build a decent engine yet alone to shoot down 2 F-22s
Anyways, I'd love to see Russia to take part in Red Flag exercise if that's possible. In that case USAF and RuAF would know for a fact which airforce has better "birds"
Archy11102 2 years ago
so the video of the chinese took 2 f22 is faked is that what you mean?okay look at the blue and red team results.maybe china can not make a sam that able to track the f22 but russ can i think.
zizo847 2 years ago
Irbis-E radar is no way near as good as the an/apg-77 on the F-22.
Irbris-e is an older type PESA radar, vs. a modern AESA radar found on the F-22.
At 125 miles the Irbris can detect a 3 m2 object, howver at the distance the F-22 is said to have an RCS somewhere aroun .002 m2. That means the Irbris-E wouldn;t be able to detect the F-22 until about 25nm away.
Mean while the f-22's AN/APG-77 radar would have locked onto the Su-35bm at about 250nm away.
First shot first kill.. Raptor.
Rip1969 2 years ago
Problem with your idea is that if F-22 uses its radar it discloses itself. If radar is turned on, it gets intercepted and appears on a radar of Su. F-22 is designed to operate using an AWACS to survey the area and send the F-22 the picture via datalink. Without someone beaming it the picture it has to use its own radar and hence negate its stealth advantage. AWACS is VERY vulnerable to SAMs especially SA5, SA-10, SA20 and SA-21 so would be used sparingly. So F-22 isn't not that hard to find.
Spetsnazovets 2 years ago
it's not like wether the f-22 will turn the radar on or off..the apg-77 will detect and lock on the su-35bm before the su-35 even knows there's an aircraft around..
the biggest problem to russians now is the small rcs of the f-22...X band radars can detect it but it will be late as hell,,i heard there will be an AESA radar to install in the su-35 soon,,and i heard also that russians now are developin' the radars that works on the L band..!! plus improvin' their OLS systems
gametariq 2 years ago
THe AESA rada on the raptor changes it's frequency in X-band 1000's of times a second. Irbis-e is a pesa radar wic does not work in X-band. Also to remember PESA radars frequency change is pretty poor, around 100 in about 5 seconds. SO trying to detect an AESA radar i very very unlikely.
AWACS flies100's of miles away from the theatre, so no need to worry about SAM's. F-22 Is capable of performing fowards air controller missions.
Rip1969 2 years ago
AESA radar on the raptor changes it's frequency in X-band 1000's of times a second. Irbis-e is a pesa radar does not work in X-band. Also to remember PESA radars frequency change is pretty poor, around 100 in about 5 seconds. SO trying to detect an AESA radar i very very unlikely.
AWACS flies100's of miles away from the theatre, so no need to worry about SAM's. F-22 Is capable of performing fowards air controller missions.
Rip1969 2 years ago
AESA on the other hand is useless against stealth craft, which is why it isn't found on the Sukhoi although Phazotron does produce AESA
Irbis is designed to detect small objects moving fast which is how F22 appears on radar, and the Sukhoi would lock on at about 100nm
The F22 cannot use it's APG77 radar at full range without making itself known, so it can't really lock onto anything farther than 50nm at which point the passive radar can lock on
adrastea99 2 years ago
yeah right - radar. russians made stronger radar while USAF simply uses AWACS which share the info with F-22s computer. stronger radar means that plane which uses it is easier to detect - same as the ground AA defenses which have to switch on and off their radar so they don't get detected. F-22 has impressive record against F-15E (the most successful aircraft with ratio of 100+ kills and 0 losses) in sim. fights. I'm not American(4 the record) but somehow I doubt that Su-35 is better than F-22
Archy11102 2 years ago
It isn't better. Its designed to beat the gen-4 fighters. Its gen4++ and can beat all gen4 planes in existence. To compete with F-22 there is a 5-gen fighter being made by MiG and Su. Its already flown. However its still Top Secret and will be revealed when it will be officially accepted into RuAF
Spetsnazovets 2 years ago
"there is a 5-gen fighter being made by MiG and Su. Its already flown. However its still Top Secret "
THats a bunch of billshit... If it's so secret, how do you know about it?
Rip1969 2 years ago
They stated that it flown but all the details are secret. Thats what i meant. As for radar interception i must have missaid something. Its not only radar that detects things. RWR does too and warns pilot. As for AWACS, It has to fly within roughly 200km from frontline to be able to timely warn fighters of incoming enemy. Too close for safety from S-300PMU2, S-300PMU1 and S-400. F-22 gets cued via datalink to targets, without that, its stealth is blown away by its radar use. multi-freq scanning.
Spetsnazovets 2 years ago
F-22 radar is LPI, it does not automatically gve itself away. The F-22 can beam its radar directly at another plane and not be detected.
KARASAWA40 2 years ago
depends on how fast the freq scan happens on RWR. Some RWR systems today have multiple scanners and scan several freq at once. But yet again: low probability yes but HOW low? Its all relative.
I'm not bagging F-22. Just merely stating that there are plenty of ways to detect it before it enters a useful missile range. Just cos missile range is say 200km doesn't mean that thats from how far you fire at another fighter.
Also the stealth fluctuates as plane maneuvers.
Spetsnazovets 2 years ago
It's not just a matter of being able to scan all frequencies, the freq jump is random, so even if something is picked up, it may not be identified as a threat, but as noise. I don't know how low the F-22's PI is, but I'm sure it's low enough to greatly reduce the ability to detect the plane.
I'm very aware that max range is not when you fire a missile, but the F-22 isn't going to fly straight in and hope it's not seen. Tactics will be a part of it to, take a route that is stealthy.
KARASAWA40 2 years ago
Also, yes maneuvers effect stealth, but overall, the F-22's RCS is going to be low, and the chance it's detected is low. And like I said before, tactics. Avoid the enemy radar, limit movements to only those necessary.
KARASAWA40 2 years ago
YOu ain't gonna hear argument from me. In my opinion comparing Su-35 to F-22 is actually an incorrect thing since they are from different generations. F-22 would be comparing to PAK-FA when its deployed. It is harder to detect F-22 then a gen-4 plane. I'd love to see F-22 radar detection range vs RSC graph.
In Oz we can see all planes in the air with OTH radar. Range of detection HUGE. L-band renders RCS and RAM irrelevant.
Spetsnazovets 2 years ago
because they make the f22 invisible in x band only but since the 35 bm has a l band too the game is over^^
GIANNHSPEIRAIAS 2 years ago
The F-22 was design for all aspect multi frequency stealth. The F-35 is the one that is limited primarily to X band. The Su-35's L band will probably aid in tracking the F-22, but it will not completely negate its stealth. Also, even in the F-22 is detected, it can beat the Su-35. The F-22's performance is not stealth dependent at all.
KARASAWA40 2 years ago
f22 and f3 is only stealth at x band the band tat mainly russia use there is not an aircraft who can be stealth from a to q band its simply a constructive matter nothing more the ram particle isnt nanoeffective
GIANNHSPEIRAIAS 2 years ago
ausairpower, net / APA - 2009 - 01, h t m l
Replace the ",' with "." and remove spaces. Scroll down to stealth shaping, their main concern is how the F-35 is X band only, while other stealth fighters aren't. RAM is not the issue, it is wave mechanics, when λ is less than the characteristic size of something, controlled scatter is difficult, but it does not mean stealth is completely blown away.
KARASAWA40 2 years ago
my god just restart your mind i think that it need a defragment..
there are two ways to discover a stealth one is to the airplane to carried out weapons in external hooks and the other is from the exaust heat
+ that is no matter now coz whoever has the mica ir in their weaponry is a stealth killer fire and forget missile without needed lock from the plane...
GIANNHSPEIRAIAS 2 years ago
Stealth applies to all emissions (in the case of F-22, B-2, F-117, and F-35), IR included. Again, IR is not an automatic stealth killer. IR has low detection range and poor performance in bad weather. MICA IR, R-77T, whatever, they will not prove insurmountable to stealth fighters planes as the planes were designed to counter these things from the start.
KARASAWA40 2 years ago 6
@KARASAWA40
That`s funny because stealth has bad performance in bad weather too. The F22`s RAM coating for example is easily damaged by rain thus making it much easier to spot for all-weather Su35`s
stalingradComando 1 year ago
The F-22 can fly in any weather with no degradation in performance. You are thinking about the F-117 and B-2 which relied on RAM heavily. The F-22 and F-35 do not, and can fly in all weather easily. The F-22 has operated in Alaska and Guam without any negative effect on stealth by weather.
KARASAWA40 1 year ago
@KARASAWA40
F22`s RAM is still affected by rain. B2`s and F117 couldn`t fly at all but even the F22 is affected by rain storms
stalingradComando 1 year ago
No it isn't, the plane was rained on in Guam and suffered no loss of stealth effectiveness, from the beginning the USAF knew that not having all weather capability would make the plane much less effective so it was requirement that the plane had to perform in all weather.
KARASAWA40 1 year ago
its bvr and f22 dont have the capability to discover those missile(basicly noone aircraft can discover them because they are in silent mode until they reach within 5nm of the target)
GIANNHSPEIRAIAS 2 years ago
And Su-27 wasnt shot down in air fight. Su-27 statistics:
0 shot down by enemy
6 enemy fighters shot down by Su-27.
That planes are MiG-29s.
gomsc011 2 years ago
watch?v=JDfz1dSciGE
Zeljko9292 2 years ago
According to this video there isn't proof that IRBIS-E is superior than APG-77. Where is the proof the last time I check on ausairpower website they say that there isn't proof that IRBIS-E is far superior than APG-77.
USAAIRPOWER 2 years ago
How much longer with the battle for air supremecy be fought by piloted planes? Drones can fly without the restriction on G force human limitations. The Predator is beginning to show the effectiveness of Drone warfare. I am not military nor am I a war monger... I am just an American who sees the inevitable progress of technology. Let's hope for peace and turn swords back into plowshares.....
KGOldWolf 2 years ago
actually US is losing its edge when it comes to air power russia china and india are advancing faster than US. Even one of th air force general stated it.
djsal510 2 years ago
Oh please Russia & China haven't prove a worthy air force in the sky. The last time I check USA fighter aircraft blast your Sukhoi/Mig fighter out of the sky of Korea, Vietnam, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Iraq, & Serbia. Soo much for advancing faster aircraft than USA. Russia & China fighter aircraft are still weak & less advance then USA.
USAAIRPOWER 2 years ago 2
You know what, USAAIRPOWER, the Third World War is pending and we will see whose planes are Kings of the Sky! Remember this.
ratibornet 2 years ago
HA! WORLD WAR 3 IS ALREADY DEAD. AFTER ALL RUSSIA lost the cold war. So there won't be world war 3. Russia is still weak like Soviet Union.
USAAIRPOWER 2 years ago
Obviously, USAAIRPOWER you're prejudiced. Moreover, cold war was not the 3rd world war, simply because it didn't encompassed the whole globe and because there were not any open confrontations between US and USSR soldiers, whereas, the 3rd world war will kill about 2 billion people.
ratibornet 2 years ago 2
Furthermore, how can you state that the country is weak if it has nukes as much as US has. If there hadn't been mutual deterrence, the Earth would already have died. US would've attacked, as you said, weak Soviet Union (recollect the plan of Allen Dulles for instance). But they didn't, 'cos they were scared. And USSR didn't lose the cold war to USA, it lost it to itself. Finally, there can't be any impartial speculations about superiority of any aircraft before they meet each other face to face.
ratibornet 2 years ago
Russian Mig-15, Mig-17, Mig-19, Mig-21, Mig-23, Mig-25, Mig-29, Mig-33, Mig-31, Mig-35, Su-27, & Su-30 fail to become King of The Sky & Air Dominant. In order to be King of The Sky you must destroyed over 100 enemy aircraft in war, beat your rival in real air combat, maintain air dominance as you can for long & even more than decades. Also beat next generation fighter aircraft like Stealth in real air combat.
USAAIRPOWER 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
King of The Sky:(Generation)
(1) P-51 Mustang (1942-1949)
(2) F-86 Sabre (1949-1960)
(3) F-4 Phantom (1960-1976)
(4) F-15 Eagle (1976-2005)
All these fighter aircraft have proven a worthy, destroy over 100 enemy aircraft in war, bet their rival in real air combat, air dominance, & had been crown King of the sky. F-15 Eagle was the only fighter aircraft never shot down by another fighter aircraft in real air combat. F-15 Eagle pass it's crown to F-22 Raptor to become next King of The Sky.
USAAIRPOWER 2 years ago
When did the F-4 and F-15 ever face off against a superpower. Attributing dominance to the fact that all they have done is kill pilots from banana republics is not so honorable. The planes aren't good because they're better machines than what the russians have, its because they have better pilots than the armies they have faced.
om3ga123 2 years ago 2
Russian Fighter pilot are weaker than USA & India pilot. USA Fight pilot flying F-86 Sabre shot down a lot Russian, Chinese, & North Korean Fighter pilot flying Mig-15 Fagot. Don't mess with F-15 & F-4 because they will knock you out of the sky. F-15 is the King of The Sky.
USAAIRPOWER 2 years ago
I'm sorry what grade are you in? (if you're American) You write like you are 12. US pilots have never fought against Russian pilots. Or please, by all means, remind me which war the Americans and Russians fought against each other.
om3ga123 2 years ago
I'm America by the way your not fucking 23 years old. First of all US pilot did fought against Russian pilots during Korean War. Duh! America pilot were flying F-86 Sabre while Russia fly Mig-15 Fagot.
USAAIRPOWER 2 years ago
The Korean War, moron. It is no secret on either side that RUSSIAN pilots flew in North Korean Migs. The North did not have many good pilots. Russian pilots flew for their side. And we kicked their asses.
ataramprat 2 years ago
In a first time only. But the Russian pilots returns to home,and after that MiG fighters flew by Koran and Chinese pilots. And Russians are more better than Koreans, and they have good scores. Yevgeny Pepelaev shot down 23 US fighters,in a first time of korea war. And after that he go back to USSR and replaced by a Korean rookie. Russian pilots in the kora war was very godd,but the koreans are not. Thats the reason why USA could win the kora war in air.
gomsc011 2 years ago
>>And we kicked their asses
kill:loss ratio for the F-86 was 1.8:1 overall, and likely 1.3:1 against MiGs flown by Soviet pilots. It's not ass kicking, it's normal score
kibabiba 2 years ago
Su-35 may carry more missiles than F-22. Well guess what it doesn't matter. F-16 carry less missiles than F-15. F-16 manage to beat F-15 at Red Flag. Number of Missiles doesn't matter. F-22 Raptor is going be next King of the Sky & Air dominance on every country. Russia Su-27, Su-30, & Su-35 never seeing in air combat, never destroyed over 100, & beat rival in real air combat. You can't called your self the best & powerful fighter aircraft in the world including King of the sky & Air Dominance.
USAAIRPOWER 2 years ago
F-22 Raptor can dodge Su-35 missiles like AA-12 Adder. Su-35 tried to track F-22 Raptor with heat seeking missiles like AA-11 Archer is going be worthless. There is one main reason why F-22 Raptor had a thin covering afterburner to prevent any heat seeking missiles from track it. Su-35 doesn't stand a chance against F-22 Raptor in real air combat. F-22 Raptor could beat Su-35 by firing AIM-9X. Flares & Chaff are going be useless. We study about AA-11 Archer thanks to former East Germany Mig-29.
USAAIRPOWER 2 years ago
Su-35 Super Flanker may be bigger than F-22 Raptor but guess what size doesn't matter. A little guy could out smart a big guy or stronger than him. Do not underestimated F-22 Raptor in real air combat. Su-35 only could beat F-22 in NATO War game exercises or Pacific Vision only because F-22 Raptor doesn't show it's true performance, radar, & everything. Just like during Red Flag, IAF Su-30MKI doesn't show everything. You mess F-22 in real air combat & he will knock you out of the sky.
USAAIRPOWER 2 years ago
Your wrong ricjan33. F-22 Raptor radar APG-77 is way far powerful than Irbis-E. F-22 Raptor radar could track multiple targets & also track enemy aircraft from 200-240 km. Su-35 IRBIS-E could track one target at a time & also track enemy aircraft from 200 km. IRBIS-E can't track Stealth Aircraft. F-22 Raptor stealth is very stealthiest. F-22 used new form of Stealth called Planform Alignment it cover by Plasma to put F-22 invisible to radar & inferred. F-22 Raptor is Superior than Su-35.
USAAIRPOWER 2 years ago
Is that Yegevny Frolov?Sukhoi test pilot as stated in wikipedia?
lolf08 2 years ago
The description said the Su35 radar is more powerful than F-22. I doubt it the Su35 radar is not even AESA radar, the russian should put AESA radar in their fighters if they want to sell more of them.
FeelFree3 2 years ago
F-22 has never been near dogfights'. Remeber that they cancelled production of raptors one year ago. The tremendous cost this airplane have are staggering. Therefore, it's a risk of using this aircraft in places like Iraq and afghanistan or any place around the world. There're currently 187 active Raptors out there and it appears that DoD has no financial support to continue to elaborate this aircraft. That's why Su-35 is better and much more cheaper in many ways
ExhibitMan 2 years ago 2
I have respect for Russian aircraft, in fact, the Su-35BM is one of my favorites, but I have to say if it were my life in stake, I'd take the stealth aircraft. And I hate to break it to you guys, but the F-22's frontal RCS is about "0.00016m2", not .001. I might put my money on the Su-35BM in the dogfight, but I'd take the raptor anywhere else. Just my 2 cents.
chrslbrt 2 years ago
Guys, objectively Su-35 concedes F-22 on many parameters. And surpasses only in range of flight, to the weapon and a maneuverability. Perhaps, our plane also can be opponent F-22, but eventually compare these machines incorrectly. The raptor is 5 generation, instead of modernized 4. But at present Su-35 strongly keeps 2 place among fighters.
ete0 2 years ago
Su-35 BM is a superb machine, no doubt about that... however, it is no match to the raptor which is a 5th generation fighter 'cause that machine is labelled by sukhoi as a 4++ aeroplane... i like russian airplanes but we have to admit that the raptor has to that date, no rival... it may change with the arrival of the pak-fa, but...
UncivilizedMan 3 years ago
fuck craptor watch the video f 22 high flying enron ,craptor is shit
matamoros77 3 years ago 5
@matamoros77 SUck-35.
N1cholas240 6 months ago
@N1cholas240 youre just jealous stupid fuck hahaha, go suck your usa masters dick cocksucker, canadian fuck go bury yourself with your cancelled arrow pos fighter dicksucker
matamoros77 6 months ago
@matamoros77 HAHAHAHA dont be pissed off that i made you look bad.
N1cholas240 6 months ago
If Raptor is operating over a region where Russian longtidunal radars are stationed, then the Su 27BM won't even need its radar. It will be just guided from ground. Also, you forget about the IRST, which can detect the Raptor from a range of about 80km(thats the distance from which the IRST on the original Su 27 could detect MiG 21)
Simbirsk2130 3 years ago
I disagree with you. The BM can dodge the F22s BVRAAM missiles. Then move in close and take the KILL!
sukhoisown 3 years ago
I like the Su-35 as much as anyone else, but the truth about the F-22 is that it lives up to all the hype they've given it. The flipside is that the F-22 is so good at longer range engagements that it's not very interesting as a plane.
f38stingray 3 years ago
@UncivilizedMan news for you pak fa is here to stay and it can eat craptors for breakfast , craptor is just overrated over propaganda piece of shit hahah
matamoros77 6 months ago
the most interesting part of this clip was the brief glimpse of the avionics.
JuanDeSoCal 3 years ago 2
mm.. at the end there is another song. IDK who is author :)
candid37 3 years ago
song is by russian metal band "Ария" ("Ariya")
candid37 3 years ago
I love that camo color!!
Su35MultiroleFighter 3 years ago 6
os russos sao foda msm!!!
fabbred85 3 years ago 3
i love this vid! whats the song you used? AWESOME. 5/5
darkmaster010 3 years ago 2
For an upgraded version of the aircraft capable of performing "super cobras" that video is lame. Seeing the F-22A in flight, I realised that is quite a competition for the Flankers in acrobatics. I certainly hope that Sukhoi will REALLY impress us again with NEW demonstrations off the Su-35BM, showing the true potential of this baby instead of showing that it can actually fly (like if there was ant dought).
DINDRAGON 3 years ago 2
That video was filmed when the BM made its maiden flight.
This plane will be vastley better then the normal flankers and the others like the "normal" SU 35.
Hawkwood777 3 years ago 2
this video was performed on a maiden flight and is you look at extreme manueverability demo's the F-22 is lame compared to the new Migs and Sukhoi's
Spartan9567 3 years ago
This was the first flight video, you don´t perform aerobatic maneuvers what-so-ever before you know the machine limits and capabilities.
First testing and then performing.
2129261184 3 years ago
su-35bm num é só single seat?
joaofga123 3 years ago 2
bom demais,pau no cu dos americanos!!!!
gio31brasil 3 years ago 5
disse tudo Gio! =P
JulyMirage 3 years ago 3
eheh valeu!!!
gio31brasil 3 years ago 3
Meu Deus! Que caça mais LINDO!
Com certeza a FAB tem que adiquirir vários desses!
Muuito bom o vídeo! ;D
JulyMirage 3 years ago 3