The Beriev is useless for most wildfire situations. It needs too much water (about 2.5 kilometers) of open water to scoop and the water must be very still. That's why it hasn't gotten any contracts yet. Another piece of Russian junk.
Russian transport planes are the best. Rugged and able to operate without too much ground support. (An124/225, An26, IL-76, etc.) But the Be200 and all the russian flying-boats have been, well .... crap.
Recall: During a Be200 demonstration tour, one fo the engines failed (okay, it can happen). In order to return safely to base, the pilots decided to dump fuel - causing ANOTHER fire on the ground.
I think you're right. The Be200 is a beautiful machine i've seen it here in Portugal a lot of times, it is fast (very important) and can take a galactic amount of water but... we had to turn down it's service because it was too dangerous, it need a lot of space to scoop and cut a lot of trees brunches with its wings during post scoop recover... pilots don't like it for local lake and dam conditions, but for scoop in the ocean it's ok.
@Radwar99 3) The CL-415 can scoop from smaller lakes than the BE-200. The Be-200 can't due to speed and size (safety reasons) which means closer options (again the Be-200 greater speed can be nulled here).
4) Reliability, the CL-415's great reputation has been made for a long time. The BE-200 already has had problems when it comes to mechanical problems.
So in the end, i'd take a CL-415 over a BE-200 anyday.
@3dimon3 1) due to it's slower speed and lower altitude (the prop engines fare better in smoke than jet engine), the CL-415 is a hell of alot more precise then the BE-200 & safer.
2) The turboengine means more fuel burned which means it must refuel more often than the CL-415. During that time, the CL-415 keeps dropping water. Depending of how far the nearest airport is, the more capable water cosumption the Be-200 can hold, can be negated here.
It's weird when you see them at the beach.
studentdebts 1 year ago
SUPER DOOPER SCOOPER lol i love saying "sooper scooper"
Laucheehung 1 year ago
Ugliest plane in the world is the 747 LCF lol
78720 1 year ago
@78720 yeah, you'r right sorry for bad english
11Nidzo11 1 year ago
The super scooper is awesome. I recorded it while it flew over a high school in Pomona.
PomonianLiving 2 years ago
nice attempt on the cross sell they all so make trains
virus56777 2 years ago
All of you are mistaken, Russian Be-200 and others most лутьшие, and this Super Scooper a shit American.
4yBaK100 2 years ago
The Beriev is useless for most wildfire situations. It needs too much water (about 2.5 kilometers) of open water to scoop and the water must be very still. That's why it hasn't gotten any contracts yet. Another piece of Russian junk.
longballsteeve 2 years ago
you probably shouldn't say "another peice of russian junk" - I might find that offensive (other russians too)
and I really think we've given the world some of the best machines (especially the military kind)
Crawlerz246 2 years ago
Russian transport planes are the best. Rugged and able to operate without too much ground support. (An124/225, An26, IL-76, etc.) But the Be200 and all the russian flying-boats have been, well .... crap.
jimmyinexile 2 years ago
yes. the an-124/225 is indeed a beast of an animal. the "mriya" is amazing IMO.
I guess that's the reason Beriev's planes didn't "take off" so to speak...
Crawlerz246 2 years ago
Recall: During a Be200 demonstration tour, one fo the engines failed (okay, it can happen). In order to return safely to base, the pilots decided to dump fuel - causing ANOTHER fire on the ground.
jimmyinexile 2 years ago
I think you're right. The Be200 is a beautiful machine i've seen it here in Portugal a lot of times, it is fast (very important) and can take a galactic amount of water but... we had to turn down it's service because it was too dangerous, it need a lot of space to scoop and cut a lot of trees brunches with its wings during post scoop recover... pilots don't like it for local lake and dam conditions, but for scoop in the ocean it's ok.
1vespa 2 years ago
Beriev BE-200 Dwarfs this plane both in size and payload.
damaged01 2 years ago
True - too bad she dosen't fly all that well.
jimmyinexile 2 years ago
@damaged01, except it's a piece of crap compared to the CL-415.
Radwar99 1 year ago
@Radwar99 3) The CL-415 can scoop from smaller lakes than the BE-200. The Be-200 can't due to speed and size (safety reasons) which means closer options (again the Be-200 greater speed can be nulled here).
4) Reliability, the CL-415's great reputation has been made for a long time. The BE-200 already has had problems when it comes to mechanical problems.
So in the end, i'd take a CL-415 over a BE-200 anyday.
Radwar99 1 year ago
If can export Japanese US-1
nocturne1105 2 years ago
Russian made this planes 50 years ago - bigger and better
3dimon3 3 years ago
what do you mean? if that would be true, you would say its name! you mean the beriev? i just can laugh ... ha ha ha
NemesisVS 3 years ago
of course beriev what else
3dimon3 3 years ago
much planes look similar!
but i can say now: russians took german constructors to russia and let em build fighters ... just look at the me-262
in this business, everyone steals technology from everyone
NemesisVS 3 years ago
and theres no use in fire fighting for the beriev be-12
but i must say: respect to the beriev be-200! pretty cool plane, i would buy it if i had the money
NemesisVS 3 years ago
@3dimon3 1) due to it's slower speed and lower altitude (the prop engines fare better in smoke than jet engine), the CL-415 is a hell of alot more precise then the BE-200 & safer.
2) The turboengine means more fuel burned which means it must refuel more often than the CL-415. During that time, the CL-415 keeps dropping water. Depending of how far the nearest airport is, the more capable water cosumption the Be-200 can hold, can be negated here.
Radwar99 1 year ago
3:30
Put out the fire but i hope the have flood insurance
PlaystationSkater 3 years ago
martin mars is twice that size
kevo201 3 years ago
Ya, it's true, but only 6 were built and only 2 left !
If you want "a brand new" aircraft able to scoop water... the CL-415 is the only one !!
ch1ngch1ng1 2 years ago
there are some damned good pilots out there....
petesahatna88 3 years ago
It's small when compared to the Martin Mars.
geekxx 3 years ago
This thing is so huge compared to the usual water bombers. It's hard to imagine the comparison until you see one working. It's Awesome.
katey1dog 3 years ago
it's so ugly it's cute LOL ... some people are smart
gloomph 4 years ago
I want to try out the scooper.
jet79637 4 years ago