I have 5 of those mounted in a homemade box that fits under the hood of my '97 Silverado. It now make an astonishing 32 mpg on the highway. I would film it in action but I gave my camera to my little brother before I went off to college.
This should honestly work as the only power that is required is the power to split a water molecule.If that requirment is <less than the power that is produced from the hydrogens combustability(which is in reality quite significant)Than there is a positive power surplus in this method of energy retreval.And that ais actually what this is all about. The energy required to retreive hydrogen.If that is less than the energy produced then you have positive energy.
CLOSE YOU ARE ALMOST THERE. BUT YOU STILL ARE LOOKING AT JUST A PIECE OF THE PICTURE. START TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE. SOLAR PANEL ----->TO 12V BATTERY------>INVERTER------->BIG GLASS JAR -HYDROGEN------->COLLECT GAS TO RUN MOTORS------------->THAT BELT THE ALTERNATOR TO CHARGE BATTERIES. IT MAY NOT WORK HERE. BUT IT WORKS. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. GOOD LUCK ON YOUR JOURNEY AND MAY PEACE AND JUSTICE BE WITH YOU ALL THE DAYS OF YOUR LIFE.
Maybe you're a heck of a mechanic, but you're a poor excuse for a person. A real class act! Your parents must be so proud (not). Could you BE more vulgar and offensive?
wire helix in a jar is frowned upon for a number of reasons . which some may already have mentioned.. even the guy who captioned this typed of HHO gen. as... The greatest hydrogen generator .. has disabled the comments as well as the ratings in his video... hehehehe
ive used hho for about 5 years ... if you notice one wire gets smaler and the other wire gets rusty... when i re built my honda engine at 200,000 miles the piston rings ,valves springs lifters and rods cam shaft ..everything was eletroplated with stainless another bonus of hho fuel cells
This Generator in ur car iS RAT SHIT, im sorry... but truth hurts HAhaha, no gas coming outta that fucking thing man, get a bigger glass jar, 2 bits of stainless steel sheet metal. 2.0 thick drill a tonne of holes in each one, oppose them with 3mm gap, and at least 2.4 litres of water, on a 30 amp fuse with 1/4 - 2/5th's MAX teaspoon of Caustic soda, , all wired up to the power on your wiper motor (only engages with ignition on) so off when ignitions off, and watch the gas then, thank me lata
heres the thing i c when i c this vid. if this stuff actually worked right. and didnt mess anything up in the long run car companies would be doing it so i wouldnt. cause it could kill my engine all caus of wanting to save a few bucks
@fowleriva Agreed - found no practical way to introduce this into the car without major engine alterations; it can work, but it is more expensive than the savings in gas. I maintain that stationary solar applications would suit this technology well.
@Marttico in all actuality it's better for the vehicle. hydrogen and oxygen are the 2 most explosive gasses on earth and also much cleaner to burn than typical pump fuel. it is much more efficient than gas. no need for any major alterations to the vehicle because you're simply burning a better fuel that burns faster and creates that conventional explosion in the cylinders using less than fuel. also less fouling of spark plugs so your plugs could last even longer than they normally would.
@Marttico and also the reason why car companies have not decided to run this full force is because of oil companies. oil companies would go out of business and a lot of jobs would be lost and blah blah blah. people have already tried to make it go full force but it won't happen until we are totally out of fossil fuels.
@Marttico just hook it into the gas Vapour Canister into the throttle body check you EGR system for installation or a Main Vacuum line it is a good Idea to put it before the MAS detector so the Computer dose not get confused.
For best results Drill and Tap intake Ports on Manifold. If your going all out remember 5 to 10 Degrees after TDC spark-plug setting
@Marttico I found that fitting a Y valve to the fuel line and connecting the hydrogen output to the to the new valve will allow you to adjust the gasoline/hydrogen mix until you achieve maximum efficiency.
This would not produce enough gas to power a lawnmower, I know I've made loads of these, they're shit....lots of gas that for sure, but not enough.....good for putting in balloons and setting fire to..but f"*k all else.
@undisputedchamp1986 Yes Champ - it gets so hot because of leakage current. In order to minimize it, you need to insulate as best s you ca. Obviously with this wire method, that is next to impossible, so I would move on a parallel-series plate design instead so you can seal off the sides of the plates leaving a a gap between the P and N junction - makes a world of difference. Also, using a pulse width modulator has been known to keep heat down.
@Marttico its because you have no neutral plates.. you need to have plates in a order of +nnnnn-nnnn+ and so on.. because 12v per plate is wayyy to much voltage and that heats up the water so you need nutral plates to brake the voltage gap to aprox 1.5-2v per plate gap for the cell not to over heat..
@Marttico plates are also good because of production.
they have a draw back they Produce Foam so a Bubblier is a good Idea to keep the Foam and water entering the engine... this is not practical for me since I live in Canada I could convert my Furnace and water Heater for it but in a Car I would have to drain it every night. not Practical... Electric car or a GEET reactor might be the way to go.
@undisputedchamp1986 HHO generators get hot if the plate gap voltage is above what it should be, if you only have to plates and you are putting 12 volts through it, the plate gap voltage would be 12 volts, to decrease the plate gap voltage neutral plates are used. You want the plate gap voltage to be around 2.5 volts
Tht is not alot of hho can't run tht on a car no way I made one and if u don't no how to do it right then trust me u will blow ur self up. I made a hho cell tht made to much gas and it sparked and flashed back to the cell and blew the hole thing up in my face and split my head and i lost my hearing in one of my ears and yes I no what I'm doing I was just trying some new ideas out so plz b careful
IT is actually too fast to run a standard gasolene or diesel engine. You must retard the timing substantially to run 100% HHO - not an easy feat without a computer controlled variable timing.
the jar helical electrode is very inefficient :-( corodes a lot faster to . Plate cells, especially drycells are probably the best way to go in vehicle aplications. The whole process of electrolysis is Surface area in the water... more surface = more hho at the same voltage/amperage. my little 4" cube drycell (11 plate) puts out 1.5 litres a minute fro 12volts at 2 amps to 15 amps, doest seem to matter over 2 amps :-\ (need more surface area, go fig lol)
@Me102288 The more surface area of electrodes, the more current will be drawn (in a parallel configuaration anyway) and the less overall resistance for a given constant voltage. Ohm's Law dude. Check my other videos where I use a parallel plate configuration. It does produce a lot of HHO, with a ton of heat. Water conducts much better when it is hot, so controllong the heat became my main issue (which came in the form of a blown fuse or MOSFET).
@Marttico . the more amperage the more hho generated. no electronics required minus a regulator. should control it by the electrolyte solution, but a I use a breaker, fuses are so anoying. I heard of pulse width modulators, but I use a led light dimmer... lol
as for the electronic fuel injection, an EFIE works, then timing and fuel/air mix is easy to change, o2 sensors can be tricked... really our only problem is generating enough hho :-\
@Me102288 True; this method is only about 33% efficient at best. Zero Fossil Fuels had a collection of video experiments attempting higher efficiencies. The alternator can only put out so much electricity before draining the battery.
RE: Remember what happened in Nagasaki .... i think i mighta peed myself a little bit when i read that . man O man .
anyways you don,tneed to seperate the gasses if you are using them ...hydrogen by itself is perfectly safe to store ... but deffinitely you do not want to store any gasses mixed together with oxygen ( thats just bad news)
Hmm this is the most inefficient way of using hydrogen, yet.
Of the kits you may have seen, use electrolysist to get hydrogen and oxtgen,run both hydrogen AND oxygen to the intake of a combustion engine... the engine turns 1 or more generator (or altenators is vehicles case) most are an hho to gas mix saving fuel. While only small 4 and 6 cylinder vehicle's today are the only ones capable of running on 100% hho.
@Me102288 whoops I mean getting electricity dirrectly from hydrogo is the more inefficient way... its also a great way for the oil companys to slow down progress of hyrogen hybrids... go fig. Brown's gas was discovered how long ago? 60 years?
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@shaky1979 You are exactly right!! A method must be employed to separate the gasses so that they can be used later through a high efficiency fuel cell, or perhaps even used exclusively in an ICE. Metal hydride technology is becoming a possible way to separate and store the hydrogen. The future is now.
Check out "They Hydrogen Age" by Geoffrey B Holland, et. al. and "Winning Our Energy Independence" by S. David Freeman. Highly recommended reading.
@Marttico NO, storing hydrogen is BAD. Anyone remember what happened to nagasaki,, that was stored hydrogen. The government lack of progress on "hybrid" fuel cars has been crawling because of this very reason, they're trying to store it and get electricity out of it to run electric engines that power the vehicle. These device's are being stalled so bad our planets fossil fuels will be depleted before it ever happens, why, because they'd lose billions in profit from ppl buying fuel.
@Me102288 I appreciate your passion, but here's a couple of facts for you:
1. If you are referring to Nagasaki in World War II, that was an Atomic bomb. Hydrogen bombs were not developed until AFTER the war. Furthermore, it takes a nuclear fission reaction to detonate the fusion process that is the Hydrogen Bomb - Hydrogen fusion into Helium. Simply storing hydrogen can't cause this.
2. You were right, however, about profit as the main influence on this technology's progress in society.
@Marttico lol it was a figure of speech, if that container was punctured in an accident you'd have a very large explosion. Hydrogen has such a low ignition point static electricty can det it.. needless to say, an on demand system can only take out a bubbler, and maybe a plastic intake manifold. If my bubbler ever exploded, the top pops off and cuts the electrical feed. I'm not trying to say its never going to explode, but now that I got the right ignition timing, it hasn't popped for months
@Marttico i have a system that works without seperation, i think its pretty dangerous to store hydrogen, not only is it 4 times more explosive than gas, you can compress it a lot more so the explosion would be retarded lol, im going to make a video of the system in the summer when i can use it again, right now its to cold and im having to many problems.
@MrHelpfulvideos hho? burns 100x faster then gasoline :-o i and your right its better if you dont slitt it, because the oxygen is explosive too :-) and yes the ignition has to be retarded (some engines almost 13 degrees back!!) same, to cold here too :-\
To the nay sayers, understand where the "exra" energy comes from, i.c. engines usually convert about 20% of the gasolines energy into mechanical energy. adding hho greatly increases the gasolines combustion efficiency, allowing the i.c.e. to convert about 30% of the gasolines energy into mechanical energy.....hmmm that would be an increase of approx 50 percent in mpg, Do your research with that in mind.....
To the nay sayers, understand where the "exra" energy comes from, i.c. engines usually convert about 20% of the gasolines energy into mechanical energy. adding hho greatly increases the gasolines combustion efficiency, allowing the i.c.e. to convert about 30% of the gasolines energy into mechanical energy.....hmmm that would be an increase of approx 50 percent in mpg, Do your research with that in mind.....
@yellowmetalcyborg OK I must admit - you are correct. I cannot argue with your theory, but it still does not explain everything because hundreds of people are reporting improved performance and/or increased fuel economy. It is possible that this could be a self fullfilling prophecy and people are changing their driving habits when HHO is running because they are conscious of it.
EVEN STILL - this process, as inefficient as it is, can be used to convert renewable energy into stored hydrogen.
@Marttico why does it need to be stored? I know of HHO generators output of 21 + litres a minute.. surely that would run any combustion engine under 15 litres.. LOL 15 litre engine.. hmm thats larger then any big block chevy or ford I know :-\
@Marttico ppl are skeptics I know, easiest way I simplify the proof it works... combustion engines run on combustable fuels... hho is 100x more combustable then gasoline.. ya feed it into and engine without splitting it, or anthing else... thats it.,.. boost gasolines performance because close to %40 of gasoline goes out the tail pipe unburned :-\
You realize that putting that thing in your car only decreases your mileage? Passing electricity through water puts a strain on the battery that puts a strain on the alternator that puts a strain on the ICE. The proscess of making HHO is 60% efficient but the overall efficiency would be closer to about 30% and it only helps the engine marginally. I don't know who came up with the idea but IT SUCKS no offence to Marttico.
@yellowmetalcyborg While this particular model works poorly, others have been developed that work more efficiently. You are correct that is takes energy from the alternator and ultimately the ICE. That 30% efficieny you are referring to does not subtract from the engine's output. It increases overall system efficiency by 5-20%. It may not be a huge difference, but certainly does not take power away from the system. See Zero Fossil Fuel's videos for labratory proof of this concept.
Lets say you take 100 joules of gas and turn ~40% of it into mechanical motion with the ICE, if you take half of the mechanical energy and transfer it to the alternator, 70% of it is turned into electricity, then ~60% of the current is turned into potential chemical energy in HHO. The HHO goes back into the engine gives up its energy at an efficiency of approximately 40%. If you do the math, only 3.36 joules of the original 20 are converted back into mechanical energy. Any questions?
@yellowmetalcyborg You are assuming that the alternator is at 100% capacity, which it is often not. I understand your logic and you may be correct. However, HHO buffs assume that the alternator produces energy that is otherwise wasted. Others claim that the presence of HHO in the gasolene increases the efficency of its chemical reaction in the combustion chamber adding a factor not directly related to the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. If I knew the answer, I would not be experimenting with HHO.
@Marttico My theoretical example was assuming that HALF of the rotational energy was used to drive the alternator. The alternator switches on whenever the battery charge is low, regardless of whether you are at a stop or driving at 60mph. It comes down to the law of conservation of energy, you are taking rotational energy and transforming it and losing energy along the way and then transforming it back into rotation. Trust me, even the most efficient HHO generator will not increase your mileage.
@Marttico IC engines are more like 30% efficient, SCARY THIG IS that through compustion the oxygen and hydrogen are joined once more and water vapor is created, this causes oxydation in the engine, I know because in our university practical test... that is exactly what happened.
@onesuperdon lol more like the tail pipe... after it combusts there's nothing in the cyclinder to make it go back to water.. therefore yes, you get water right after the exaust leaves the port, which is why water comes out the tail pipes.
Its easy to seperate the Hydrogen gass from the Oxygen.. the annode and cathode just need to be placed further apart and the electrolysis tank can even be parshely seperated, just adding oxygen will help boost the stociometric A/F ratio so more fule can burn thus increasing the power that can be delivered by the engine, but this wont increase efficiency, the hydrogen and oxygen will though, but with the chance of oxydation
@Marttico should see the everyday average joe running an hho generator into his intake manifold. the same engine running on the hho is making electricity via a permanent magnet motor (no loss because no need to electromagnetize the core), 100% power output for the cost of.. wait... a glass of water :-)
@yellowmetalcyborg bingo dude, getting electricity from hydrogen your better off running a small engine that turns a huge altenator, gee I always wondered why my electricity meter isn't moving :-)
@Me102288 Whatever that meant, getting electricity from hydrogen isn't economical or efficient, no matteer how you look at it, you will always expend more energy splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen than you will retrieve when you burn the gas, this is a proven fact and there is no way you can prove otherwise.
@yellowmetalcyborg Thats what I just said lol, Thats why I use hho in a combustion engine, the engine drives a pma altenator, that puts out 24 volts at around 1kilowatt.(thats 1000 watts divided by 24(volts) = 41 amps). And the hho generator is taking 12volts at 6 amp'ish (thats 12v x 6amp = 72 watts) so technically I'v already broken over unity?? 1000 watts from altenator and I'm taking about 72 watts with hho generator. Anybody??
@Me102288 Yes, but according to your comment, you are generating more energy than you use to make HHO and that's impossible. Your combustion engine and alternator might be extremely efficient (close to the carnot efficiency limit of course) but the energy used to MAKE the H2 is still greater and will always be greater than the energy you will extract from your generator.
@yellowmetalcyborg yeah that whats they said when everyone absolutely knew this plant was flat. I guess your one of the ones that says "thats impossible" when its actually working in front of you. We called ppl like that "closed minded" prove its wrong
@yellowmetalcyborg lol your still on the getting electricty directly out of hydrogen... I know thats ineffecient thats why I RUN IT IN THE ENGINE... the engine turns an alternator.
@yellowmetalcyborg lol your still on the getting electricity directly out of hydrogen... I know thats ineffecient thats why I RUN IT IN THE ENGINE... the engine turns an alternator.. So I get FREE power, not just overunity.
@Me102288 Your comment makes no sense, overunity doesn't exist, you obviously didn't run tests on your engine, I don't care about what you say, show some proof, oh, that's right you don't have any.
Please write more clearly, you comments are difficult to understand.
You really believe anything you see in a video. Did they show any graphs, and voltage readings, any equations, nope, they just pushed a cart around the university campus. Waw, I'm really convinced now, in fact I'm so convinced that I will believe anything I see in any video about free energy on the internet. Oh, the internet, what a great place, so full of potential, and scammers, words cannot describe my hate.
@yellowmetalcyborg they started it with an exteral hho generator until the onboard altenator picked up enough rpm's to produce enough hho to run the engine, then he disconnected it and let the thing run, I'd figure thats simple enough to understand since your all into scientific calculations, like perhaps you know how you can put in 12v @ 6 amps and get an extra 400 watts to run that great big 400w light bulb. Well theres lots of ppl using hho in there cars so I figure I'll say a buck. taa taa
@Me102288 What you fail to realize, is that an alternator slows down when it's connected to a load, according to lenz's law, a magnet in motion relative to an electrical conductor induces a current and an opposing magnetic field that slows it down, no free energy, the alternator will eventually stop and the whole rig ceases to work. People who have HHO generators are sheeple, they can't think for themselves, they follow the wrong ideas of others.
@yellowmetalcyborg Mr. Lenz was also dead long dead before these permanent magnet generator technology was found.. the right hand rule still applys acording to his rule but 2 magnet of oposite polarity will cancel what your reffering to is called "magnetic flux" buy pulling these magnets apart and passing them over the coils equally thereby keep the flux inbetween the magnets. I think you really should read up on the advancing technology.
@Me102288 Advancing techology?! You are reffering to an axial flux alternator, a relatively old technology that has been around for quite some time, it has an average efficiency of 98%. It doesn't get much better than that. I know all about it and, you sir, are the one who should go study some basic and fundamental principles of physics. Google "electromagnetic induction", the fundamental principle that governs the efficiency of an alternator.
@yellowmetalcyborg lol your a nut. I said free energy not perpetual motion.... lol..... I also though you knew you have to feed hho cells water too..... I didn'y say lenz was wrong either. How can you possibly think these rules are like permanant walls that ,man cant possible pass. lol I already know perpetual motion is bunk even if it could be posible, what would the output shaft, a toothpick?
Then what do you mean by "free energy"? Are you talking about a machine that creates more energy than it consumes? If so, you can take the output and feed that energy into the input and get a flywheel that accellerates until it hits the speed of light (perpetual motion). Rules are rules, you can't bend the laws of physics, if you can disprove them, they are no longer valid, so far no one has disproven them. The only way to get a net energy yield from water is to fuse hydrogen atoms together.
@yellowmetalcyborg WATER IS FREE, I PUT WATER IN, I GET ELECTRICITY OUT...so far nobody has disproven what? combustion engines run on explosive gas's.. check.. Altenators nowadays are capable of 10x the power output.. check. LoL your "rules" are older then the technology your basing them on, Mr Lenz couldn't see into the future. In the meantime I buying more dry cells for more energy.
How do you get electricity out of water? I'm just curious. You split H2O into HHO, 60% efficiency, you burn the gas in an engine, 30% efficiency, you turn an alternator, 98% efficiency at best that will feed electricity into the electrolytic cell 60% efficiency. Hmm, looks like you are losing 90% of the electricity you started with, looks like a very efficient proscess. Even if everything was 100% efficient, it wouldn't be worth it.
@yellowmetalcyborg I'm not getting electricity from water like I've explained several times, I'm use'in hydrogen to fuel a 35cc combustion engine. it turns an permanent magnet alternator.
@Me102288 Where did you get the hydrogen? You're not getting energy from nothing, the laws of physics dictate that the energy must come from somewhere in order to do work.
@yellowmetalcyborg WATER IS FREE, I PUT WATER IN, I GET ELECTRICITY OUT...so far nobody has disproven what? combustion engines run on explosive gas's.. check.. Altenators nowadays are capable of 10x the power output.. check. LoL your "rules" are older then the technology your basing them on, Mr Lenz couldn't see into the future. In the meantime I buying more dry cells for more energy. Oh fusing atoms? GET OFF THAT, I'M FUCKING EXPLODED IT IN AN ENGINE. ITS CALLED TORQUE. NOT A FUEL CELL
@Me102288 Oh, and don't say that Lenz was wrong without evidence, if he was alive, he would have shown you overwelming amounts of evidence disproving the existence of perpetual motion machines.
@Me102288 Oh and another thing, "until the onboard altenator picked up enough rpm's", that would also be considered potential energy, energy stored in the circular motion of the alternator. Therefore, this rig was working off of stored energy, not energy it was able to produce all by itself from thin air (or water).
That is correct - it is a stoichiometrical reaction. Still two Hydrogen atoms for each Oxygen atom. HHO refers to the highly unstable mixture of the water molecule's elements. I assure you, it is indeed, quite explosive.
Do you realize you cannot even spell the word realize correctly?
@Shoyrou in the gas form both o2 and h2 are VERY explosive. More explosive then gasoline or methonal for that matter.... the fact is we need 9x less hho in the cylinders then gasoline, other then pulling the ignition timing back a bit, all combustion engines will tun on it.
It is possible to disassociate hydrogen from oxygen by splitting water with it's resonant frequency. Look up Stanley Meyer. You can use up to half an amp and produce more HHO with very little power by using circuitry frequency instead of brute force electrolysis.
@bcoulal Stanley Meyer was a con artist too, and he couldn't prove that his so called 'technology' worked when asked to do so by the court after 2 investors took him to court becuase they got duped into buying one of his dud franchises. If it actually did work we'd all be driving around in cars using his technology right now and he wouldn't have got ordered to hand back the money. So if you are so gullible as to believe any claim by Meyer feel free to have the wool pulled over your eyes
Hmm lets see this logic: 1. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, 2. OUR SUN is powered by hydrogen (in which all life exists on earth because of it), 3. Our bodies need hydrogen to transport electrons and water to stay "hydrated", 4. Hydrogen is THREE TIMES MORE POWERFUL than Gasoline and oh it gets better! 5. Hydrogen is considered 130+ Octane and can be compressed into 100% liquid before it IGNITES.
Why don't they use gasoline or kerosine in Rockets in which they propel into space? Exactly......Hydrogen and Oxygen produces Hundreds times more power than measly Fossil fuels.
to increase production, dump a heaping teaspoon of baking soda into the jar. that is how i make mine produce more. cold starts are nearly a thing of the past for my 80 model car with a 76 model engine.
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titannium dragon stic to the comics your wet bihined the ears age is showing but to the normal folk i say hellow did you now dc motors make curen just like a genarator when spun by hand or drill or added to your pully system or added to a fan blade on top of car or drug bihined car i use a razor scootor motor the faster you go the more curent is produed dont hook to cars elictrical system the dc motor makes more than car can handel you will fry bateriehook strait to hho cell .wind power dc motor
That's funny..he says 'it works' as if he's onto some great thing. Sure everyone knows that one of these mason jar hho devices can produce a few hydrogen bubbles when hooked up to a car battery but it won't do anything to decrease the amount of gasoline your engine uses! Infact it will more than likely cause an increase in your gas consumption and cost you more money to run your car.
@VillaLobos43 Actually the only way to increase gas consumption in your engine is to increase the size of the fuel injectors or irresponsible driving. How about your electrolyze water into an empty bottle and hold it in your hands and tell me it isn't a powerful explosion. We'll see who's laughing by then. It doesn't take much HHO to make a big boom.
@bcoulal An electrolysis cell produces such a small amount of hydrogen that it does nothing to imporove fuel mileage. And you can never get back more energy than what it took to produce it in the first place, so because you had a full quota of energy reserve in your gas tank and are continually losing energy because gas to hydrogen via an electrolysis cell always involves losses you're actually cheating yourself out of gasoline energy which you had and money because the loss is costing you $
@Voxson1 might want to look at the 21+ litre 118 plate cell.. you honestly think we're that stupid a ppl not to advance technology? lol wait a year then tell me they don't produce enough lol
@bcoulal And because the electrical draw of the electrolysis system is causing your alternator to work harder and not spin as freely as if you didn't have the system on, it actually causes your fuel consumption to go up for no benefit other than to have some device which is producing a few molecules of hydrogen which do nothing whatsoever to benefit your fuel economy.
@VillaLobos43 You are definitely correct about the consumption of gasoline in an engine. But what happens if we can control the flow on gasoline? With a RIGHT (meaning a sufficient amount of air that is mixed with hydrogen) tune to the computer, the engine can consume more air flow mixture than the gasoline. Thus, we can reduce the usage of gasoline and use a little more hydrogen in the combustion. Products such as SAFC, (Super air flow converter) it is manageable to achieve such results.
@ezbzeric1 Interesting theory about controlling the fuel going into the engine while mixing it with hydrogen, there's a slight problem though in that these electrolysis cells don't produce anywhere near enough hydrogen to have any effect. The 30Amps of the vehicle electrical system is insufficient to make the required amount. That's why the car did not start on Mythbusters when they hooked up the cell to the engine but it did start when they piped pure hydrogen from a bottle into the air intake
@Abreen11 Marine grade alternator, more like 100 amps, oh also I've seen cells put out as much as 25 litres per minute. Since hho is more explosive then gasoline you actually need less... mine puts out around 2 litre/min, it onlt draws 3 to 4 amps at 12 volts :-\
@Me102288 Well actually you need somewhere in the vicinity of 500amps to produce anywhere near enough hydrogen to make a difference, so you're still short 400amps with the 'marine grade alternator'. And even at that there aren't too many 'marine grade alternators' being used in automobiles. I hear so many people say lots of things like 'they've seen a cell produce 25/L pm' but funny how they can give no proof of it.
@Abreen11 well here ya go then..... just paste to youtube search: watch?v=Lk1fFSkfSg4 by the way , more like 12v at 30 amps... you know how to calculate it? its volts x amps = watts. you got it kinda backwards.. by the way, permanent magnet altenators are identicle on the outside, so you could easily swap them :-\, they dont come with them because they dont need too.
@Me102288 I watched the vid and it doesn't prove that hho works to save fuel. We see bubbles coming from a glass tube which is mounted on a workshop bench, not inside a car hood powering an engine. A guy who is saying all kinds of numbers, one of which caught my attention when he said at 240V which is mains voltage, not auto voltage. He needs to have it fitted to a car, the car needs to be put on a dyno at an independent test centre and the test needs to be done in a proper and controlled manner
@Me102288 I'm sorry but hho used to save fuel has been shown to be a con job, mainly because no proper proof that it works can be given from those promoting it, and facts based on thermodynamics prove it to be so..so hho promoters can rant and rave about all kinds of figures as much as they like...until proper evidence is shown that it actually works to save fuel it will always be classified as a con job...
@Abreen11 yeah that must be why there's thousands of people doing it. See its a good thing to keep your mind open, because if we dont, we will run out of fossil fuels, and your saying its a con?
I have a single question. Have you ever actually had one to do all these experiments yourself? Far as thermodynamics has nothing to do with simple electrolysis. And we already know combustion engines run on explosive gas.
@Me102288 Thousands of people are doing it and finding out that they have either been conned if they are paying someone to install one of these devices or have wasted their good time and money if they did it themselves. There's a difference between having an open mind and being a sucker. HHO will not solve the fossil fuel problem, of which it will not run out in our lifetime, other genuine sources like solar energy do go some way to contribute to easing the amount of reliance on fossile fuel.
@Me102288 I do not need to try one of the hho devices, the lack of proper evidence inter alia combined with the many unsubstantiated claims made my those promoting these devices points to the fact that it's a scam. If there's no proper proof to the contrary I would be silly to try it. Thermodynamics has quite a bit to do with electrolysis as it's the basis of how energy works when it converts from one form to another. You are converting from gasoline to hydrogen and losing more than gaining
@Abreen11 then don't bother trying to disprove it, And those who know it works will continue using it.
P.s. gasoline isn't as explosive as hydrogen + oxygen. you need about 19x less in a combustion engine.. might want to look at the atomic nature of hydrogen...
@Me102288 Like I say I don't need to disprove something which cannot be proven to be true in the first place. I know that hho doesn't work to save fuel based on the evidence available, if it were actually true that it did work these people who promote hho would have won the Nobel Prize. The fact is that you can never get back more energy than what it took to produce it in the first place and because of the losses involved converting from gasoline to hydrogen you end up with less energy
@Abreen11 Eistein said the energy in 30 kilograms of water, is aprox. = to 10 MILLION gallons of oil.. you figure we didn't get better at extacting it? LoL ya, were so fk'in stupid were still flying biplanes and riding on horse drawn buggy. LoL I suppose you didn't read up on the fool who didn't believe the sound barrier was passible, nowadays by 6x over.. learning is great. I love it, wonder what we'll find out next year.
@zomgwtfbbqbagel hho doesnt burn hotter lol it explodes faster. O2 sensor doesnt die it adjusts fuel because hho makes it think its lean. the thermostat is in the RADIATOR not the engine...
the only thing my shop has seen gone wrong is that sometimes it won't bypass the ECU and it screws up. if you are running a weak ECU though it will work great
I improved my fuel consumption from 47 mpg to 51.5 mpg (imperial gallons) simply by adjusting my driving style. (car is a 1997 Citroen Xantia turbo-diesel with 156,000 on the clock) If these HHO devices are so easy to make then why aren't manufacturers factory fitting them. As the car industry is in a mess it would be in their interests to make cars more fuel efficient using the cheapest methods. So far we've not seen one person carry out a proper controlled test of these HHO units.
These devices ARE easy to make, but they require a good deal of maintenance and monitoring. Most motorists do not want to have to do anything but fill the gas tank and pay some guy to change the oil every 5000 miles.
If you make it practical and safe, suddenly it isn't so cheap anymore.
I think I'm going to build one of these gas generators and see if my MPG improves without having to carry out hypermilling techniques. If I then see a marked improvement without resorting to having to watch the speedometer and never straying over 70 then I will be impressed. I realise that you can't get enough HHO to run an engine purely on HHO but if it improves combustion then I should see a cleaner exhaust and better gas mileage.
you my friend, are a moron! Water is made of oxygen and hydrogen - this splits the water into gas and produces what is commonly known as Brown's Gas or HHO - not an ounce of CO2 to be found...
There is no such thing as "Brown's Gas" or HHO - anyone who says these things exist is either an idiot or a scammer.
Lysing water produces two things - H2 and O2, in a 2:1 ratio (H2 being hydrogen, and O2 being oxygen). However, it takes more energy to lyse the water than you get by burning the hydrogen. This is due to the first and second laws of thermodynamics. You lose energy to overcome entropy, as well as to waste heat.
This wont generate energy... the device releases stored energy - gas is used when the engine needs a boost... the alternator stores energy in the car battery - the lyser liberates combustible gas when the car needs a boost - e.g during acceleration up hill - needing less petrol
on the down hill run the alternator stores electrical energy ready to produce more gas when required...
this system needs gravity and kinetic energy to create electrical energy - and will not work on a test bench!
Reread what you wrote. "the alternator stores energy in the car battery". It is far more energy efficient to store energy in the battery than to lyse hydrogen from water. Ergo, this can only hurt your mileage, because it is -less- efficient at doing what your car does itself.
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So how do you explain the 23% increase in fuel efficiency that I have created on a 3.1 litre diesel Isuzu Trooper... must be something to do with direction of prevailing winds... fluke results... faulty calcs... erm... the colour of the sky on thursday mornings...? (we recorded fuel use over 4 months without the system and 4 months with - the results speak for themselves...) If you haven't tried it for yourself first hand on your own vehicle - put up or shut up!
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sorry chum... to be a con artist or a scammer I'd have to be selling something... I am a professional photographer... I make and sell photographs - but, for fun, I decided to try making a 'lyser myself to see if it does anything... for me, it actually does save fuel... What makes you think I am trying to scam anyone? Again... have you ACTUALLY tried this yourself... you can build cheaply from freely available parts, no widgets needed... if you haven't tried - go find something better to do ;-P
I've done experiments lysing water. Shock and surprise, it takes more energy to lyse it than you get by burning the hydrogen.
The only way you'll see any sort of increase at all in efficiency is if the efficiency of your lyser is greater than the efficiency of your car battery. That's quite unlikely.
What makes me think you're trying to scam anyone?
I dunno... the fact that you're trying to scam people? Shocking!
I have 5 of those mounted in a homemade box that fits under the hood of my '97 Silverado. It now make an astonishing 32 mpg on the highway. I would film it in action but I gave my camera to my little brother before I went off to college.
rowen211 3 weeks ago
@rowen211 post it up bro
BlueRice 3 weeks ago
same problem i have what i m do now? its not work good and not more bubbles what i need do?
babbujathol143143 3 weeks ago
This should honestly work as the only power that is required is the power to split a water molecule.If that requirment is <less than the power that is produced from the hydrogens combustability(which is in reality quite significant)Than there is a positive power surplus in this method of energy retreval.And that ais actually what this is all about. The energy required to retreive hydrogen.If that is less than the energy produced then you have positive energy.
mastersduhgree 1 month ago
CLOSE YOU ARE ALMOST THERE. BUT YOU STILL ARE LOOKING AT JUST A PIECE OF THE PICTURE. START TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE. SOLAR PANEL ----->TO 12V BATTERY------>INVERTER------->BIG GLASS JAR -HYDROGEN------->COLLECT GAS TO RUN MOTORS------------->THAT BELT THE ALTERNATOR TO CHARGE BATTERIES. IT MAY NOT WORK HERE. BUT IT WORKS. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. GOOD LUCK ON YOUR JOURNEY AND MAY PEACE AND JUSTICE BE WITH YOU ALL THE DAYS OF YOUR LIFE.
oftenlost 1 month ago
no where near the volume of gas needed to run an engine, i have fitted lpg conversions to 3 of my cars myself, and those few bubbles wont do nothing.
lezbriddon 1 month ago
whats you mpg?
6tortured6soul6 1 month ago
So does the damn thing work!?
6tortured6soul6 1 month ago
Maybe you're a heck of a mechanic, but you're a poor excuse for a person. A real class act! Your parents must be so proud (not). Could you BE more vulgar and offensive?
flyboy1100 2 months ago
@flyboy1100 He's a poor excuse for a person because he throws in some curse words? Cmon' mate.
XxENovaxX 1 month ago
hardly produces anything
shortyjk95 3 months ago
wire helix in a jar is frowned upon for a number of reasons . which some may already have mentioned.. even the guy who captioned this typed of HHO gen. as... The greatest hydrogen generator .. has disabled the comments as well as the ratings in his video... hehehehe
frank0067 4 months ago
ive used hho for about 5 years ... if you notice one wire gets smaler and the other wire gets rusty... when i re built my honda engine at 200,000 miles the piston rings ,valves springs lifters and rods cam shaft ..everything was eletroplated with stainless another bonus of hho fuel cells
threewheelsbetter 4 months ago
This Generator in ur car iS RAT SHIT, im sorry... but truth hurts HAhaha, no gas coming outta that fucking thing man, get a bigger glass jar, 2 bits of stainless steel sheet metal. 2.0 thick drill a tonne of holes in each one, oppose them with 3mm gap, and at least 2.4 litres of water, on a 30 amp fuse with 1/4 - 2/5th's MAX teaspoon of Caustic soda, , all wired up to the power on your wiper motor (only engages with ignition on) so off when ignitions off, and watch the gas then, thank me lata
jonnijames 4 months ago
heres the thing i c when i c this vid. if this stuff actually worked right. and didnt mess anything up in the long run car companies would be doing it so i wouldnt. cause it could kill my engine all caus of wanting to save a few bucks
fowleriva 5 months ago
@fowleriva Agreed - found no practical way to introduce this into the car without major engine alterations; it can work, but it is more expensive than the savings in gas. I maintain that stationary solar applications would suit this technology well.
Marttico 4 months ago
@Marttico in all actuality it's better for the vehicle. hydrogen and oxygen are the 2 most explosive gasses on earth and also much cleaner to burn than typical pump fuel. it is much more efficient than gas. no need for any major alterations to the vehicle because you're simply burning a better fuel that burns faster and creates that conventional explosion in the cylinders using less than fuel. also less fouling of spark plugs so your plugs could last even longer than they normally would.
ajracerex 2 months ago
@Marttico and also the reason why car companies have not decided to run this full force is because of oil companies. oil companies would go out of business and a lot of jobs would be lost and blah blah blah. people have already tried to make it go full force but it won't happen until we are totally out of fossil fuels.
ajracerex 2 months ago
@Marttico just hook it into the gas Vapour Canister into the throttle body check you EGR system for installation or a Main Vacuum line it is a good Idea to put it before the MAS detector so the Computer dose not get confused.
For best results Drill and Tap intake Ports on Manifold. If your going all out remember 5 to 10 Degrees after TDC spark-plug setting
JustinJJHCS1 1 month ago in playlist HHO Engines Water Engine
@Marttico I found that fitting a Y valve to the fuel line and connecting the hydrogen output to the to the new valve will allow you to adjust the gasoline/hydrogen mix until you achieve maximum efficiency.
rowen211 3 weeks ago
@Marttico Does this thing really works and save gas that some says it do and some says it dont ? Am interested in it but am not sure yet .
Maxantium 2 days ago
how do you get rid of the oxgent
jameshone1000 5 months ago
This would not produce enough gas to power a lawnmower, I know I've made loads of these, they're shit....lots of gas that for sure, but not enough.....good for putting in balloons and setting fire to..but f"*k all else.
fezants 6 months ago
does it works on diesel engines?
Does it causes misfires and valve corrodation?
Does the emitted water ruins your catalisator ?
215alessio 6 months ago
it fucking did it!
mark4soccer 6 months ago
What's up with the improper language
checkthisupdotcom 6 months ago
ha ha ha everybody should call your High School Chemistry teacher and apologize for not paying attention in class
Vmartin70EZ 7 months ago
yeh It works what the Heck did you think we where telling you???
You can run your Engine on water no shit!!! they just Don't want you to know that....
JustinJJHCS1 7 months ago
You did fuckin' do it! Holy fuckin' shit. Fuck.
handz2die4 9 months ago
Would anyone know why does my generators get so hot? is it normal? is it safe?
undisputedchamp1986 9 months ago
@undisputedchamp1986 Yes Champ - it gets so hot because of leakage current. In order to minimize it, you need to insulate as best s you ca. Obviously with this wire method, that is next to impossible, so I would move on a parallel-series plate design instead so you can seal off the sides of the plates leaving a a gap between the P and N junction - makes a world of difference. Also, using a pulse width modulator has been known to keep heat down.
Marttico 9 months ago
@Marttico its because you have no neutral plates.. you need to have plates in a order of +nnnnn-nnnn+ and so on.. because 12v per plate is wayyy to much voltage and that heats up the water so you need nutral plates to brake the voltage gap to aprox 1.5-2v per plate gap for the cell not to over heat..
hope this helps..
ExtraSilver 9 months ago
@Marttico your problem is simply that it doesent have enough volts but too much watts in amps ,that causes heat nothing else
transdetendal 3 months ago
@Marttico plates are also good because of production.
they have a draw back they Produce Foam so a Bubblier is a good Idea to keep the Foam and water entering the engine... this is not practical for me since I live in Canada I could convert my Furnace and water Heater for it but in a Car I would have to drain it every night. not Practical... Electric car or a GEET reactor might be the way to go.
JustinJJHCS1 1 month ago in playlist HHO Engines Water Engine
@undisputedchamp1986 HHO generators get hot if the plate gap voltage is above what it should be, if you only have to plates and you are putting 12 volts through it, the plate gap voltage would be 12 volts, to decrease the plate gap voltage neutral plates are used. You want the plate gap voltage to be around 2.5 volts
BreadboardBasics 3 weeks ago
To bad you don't KNOW how to spell.
escinc11 9 months ago
@escinc11 That's "too bad" not "to bad".
Speculationist 4 months ago
Tht is not alot of hho can't run tht on a car no way I made one and if u don't no how to do it right then trust me u will blow ur self up. I made a hho cell tht made to much gas and it sparked and flashed back to the cell and blew the hole thing up in my face and split my head and i lost my hearing in one of my ears and yes I no what I'm doing I was just trying some new ideas out so plz b careful
kodye414 9 months ago
IT is actually too fast to run a standard gasolene or diesel engine. You must retard the timing substantially to run 100% HHO - not an easy feat without a computer controlled variable timing.
Marttico 10 months ago
the jar helical electrode is very inefficient :-( corodes a lot faster to . Plate cells, especially drycells are probably the best way to go in vehicle aplications. The whole process of electrolysis is Surface area in the water... more surface = more hho at the same voltage/amperage. my little 4" cube drycell (11 plate) puts out 1.5 litres a minute fro 12volts at 2 amps to 15 amps, doest seem to matter over 2 amps :-\ (need more surface area, go fig lol)
Me102288 10 months ago
@Me102288 The more surface area of electrodes, the more current will be drawn (in a parallel configuaration anyway) and the less overall resistance for a given constant voltage. Ohm's Law dude. Check my other videos where I use a parallel plate configuration. It does produce a lot of HHO, with a ton of heat. Water conducts much better when it is hot, so controllong the heat became my main issue (which came in the form of a blown fuse or MOSFET).
Marttico 10 months ago
@Marttico . the more amperage the more hho generated. no electronics required minus a regulator. should control it by the electrolyte solution, but a I use a breaker, fuses are so anoying. I heard of pulse width modulators, but I use a led light dimmer... lol
as for the electronic fuel injection, an EFIE works, then timing and fuel/air mix is easy to change, o2 sensors can be tricked... really our only problem is generating enough hho :-\
Me102288 10 months ago
@Me102288 True; this method is only about 33% efficient at best. Zero Fossil Fuels had a collection of video experiments attempting higher efficiencies. The alternator can only put out so much electricity before draining the battery.
Marttico 10 months ago
RE: Remember what happened in Nagasaki .... i think i mighta peed myself a little bit when i read that . man O man .
anyways you don,tneed to seperate the gasses if you are using them ...hydrogen by itself is perfectly safe to store ... but deffinitely you do not want to store any gasses mixed together with oxygen ( thats just bad news)
diceman2004 10 months ago
Ok you made it bubble, but i can do that with a straw - What about you're mileage dude?????
wombraider091 11 months ago
Ok you made it bubble, but i can do that with a straw - What about you're mileage dude?????
wombraider091 11 months ago
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crafter2u 11 months ago
Hmm this is the most inefficient way of using hydrogen, yet.
Of the kits you may have seen, use electrolysist to get hydrogen and oxtgen,run both hydrogen AND oxygen to the intake of a combustion engine... the engine turns 1 or more generator (or altenators is vehicles case) most are an hho to gas mix saving fuel. While only small 4 and 6 cylinder vehicle's today are the only ones capable of running on 100% hho.
Me102288 1 year ago
@Me102288 whoops I mean getting electricity dirrectly from hydrogo is the more inefficient way... its also a great way for the oil companys to slow down progress of hyrogen hybrids... go fig. Brown's gas was discovered how long ago? 60 years?
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lutherarao 1 year ago
It fucking worksssss... :D
Mattlatvia25 1 year ago
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angryadrien 1 year ago
If you don't seperate the two gases you have nothing!
shaky1979 1 year ago
@shaky1979 You are exactly right!! A method must be employed to separate the gasses so that they can be used later through a high efficiency fuel cell, or perhaps even used exclusively in an ICE. Metal hydride technology is becoming a possible way to separate and store the hydrogen. The future is now.
Check out "They Hydrogen Age" by Geoffrey B Holland, et. al. and "Winning Our Energy Independence" by S. David Freeman. Highly recommended reading.
Marttico 1 year ago
@Marttico NO, storing hydrogen is BAD. Anyone remember what happened to nagasaki,, that was stored hydrogen. The government lack of progress on "hybrid" fuel cars has been crawling because of this very reason, they're trying to store it and get electricity out of it to run electric engines that power the vehicle. These device's are being stalled so bad our planets fossil fuels will be depleted before it ever happens, why, because they'd lose billions in profit from ppl buying fuel.
Me102288 1 year ago
@Me102288 I appreciate your passion, but here's a couple of facts for you:
1. If you are referring to Nagasaki in World War II, that was an Atomic bomb. Hydrogen bombs were not developed until AFTER the war. Furthermore, it takes a nuclear fission reaction to detonate the fusion process that is the Hydrogen Bomb - Hydrogen fusion into Helium. Simply storing hydrogen can't cause this.
2. You were right, however, about profit as the main influence on this technology's progress in society.
Marttico 1 year ago
@Marttico lol it was a figure of speech, if that container was punctured in an accident you'd have a very large explosion. Hydrogen has such a low ignition point static electricty can det it.. needless to say, an on demand system can only take out a bubbler, and maybe a plastic intake manifold. If my bubbler ever exploded, the top pops off and cuts the electrical feed. I'm not trying to say its never going to explode, but now that I got the right ignition timing, it hasn't popped for months
Me102288 1 year ago
@Marttico i have a system that works without seperation, i think its pretty dangerous to store hydrogen, not only is it 4 times more explosive than gas, you can compress it a lot more so the explosion would be retarded lol, im going to make a video of the system in the summer when i can use it again, right now its to cold and im having to many problems.
MrHelpfulvideos 10 months ago
@MrHelpfulvideos hho? burns 100x faster then gasoline :-o i and your right its better if you dont slitt it, because the oxygen is explosive too :-) and yes the ignition has to be retarded (some engines almost 13 degrees back!!) same, to cold here too :-\
Me102288 10 months ago
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onesuperdon 1 year ago
@shaky1979 so oxygen isn't explosive...... lol
Me102288 1 year ago
damn martico just read your responce to yellow and not only r u trying to save gas but your chat is very ellaquent... YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
seanswd1 1 year ago
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To the nay sayers, understand where the "exra" energy comes from, i.c. engines usually convert about 20% of the gasolines energy into mechanical energy. adding hho greatly increases the gasolines combustion efficiency, allowing the i.c.e. to convert about 30% of the gasolines energy into mechanical energy.....hmmm that would be an increase of approx 50 percent in mpg, Do your research with that in mind.....
oooblyahba 1 year ago
To the nay sayers, understand where the "exra" energy comes from, i.c. engines usually convert about 20% of the gasolines energy into mechanical energy. adding hho greatly increases the gasolines combustion efficiency, allowing the i.c.e. to convert about 30% of the gasolines energy into mechanical energy.....hmmm that would be an increase of approx 50 percent in mpg, Do your research with that in mind.....
oooblyahba 1 year ago
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LeonRFpoa 1 year ago
@yellowmetalcyborg OK I must admit - you are correct. I cannot argue with your theory, but it still does not explain everything because hundreds of people are reporting improved performance and/or increased fuel economy. It is possible that this could be a self fullfilling prophecy and people are changing their driving habits when HHO is running because they are conscious of it.
EVEN STILL - this process, as inefficient as it is, can be used to convert renewable energy into stored hydrogen.
Marttico 1 year ago
@Marttico why does it need to be stored? I know of HHO generators output of 21 + litres a minute.. surely that would run any combustion engine under 15 litres.. LOL 15 litre engine.. hmm thats larger then any big block chevy or ford I know :-\
Me102288 1 year ago
@Marttico ppl are skeptics I know, easiest way I simplify the proof it works... combustion engines run on combustable fuels... hho is 100x more combustable then gasoline.. ya feed it into and engine without splitting it, or anthing else... thats it.,.. boost gasolines performance because close to %40 of gasoline goes out the tail pipe unburned :-\
Me102288 10 months ago
You realize that putting that thing in your car only decreases your mileage? Passing electricity through water puts a strain on the battery that puts a strain on the alternator that puts a strain on the ICE. The proscess of making HHO is 60% efficient but the overall efficiency would be closer to about 30% and it only helps the engine marginally. I don't know who came up with the idea but IT SUCKS no offence to Marttico.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
@yellowmetalcyborg While this particular model works poorly, others have been developed that work more efficiently. You are correct that is takes energy from the alternator and ultimately the ICE. That 30% efficieny you are referring to does not subtract from the engine's output. It increases overall system efficiency by 5-20%. It may not be a huge difference, but certainly does not take power away from the system. See Zero Fossil Fuel's videos for labratory proof of this concept.
Marttico 1 year ago
Lets say you take 100 joules of gas and turn ~40% of it into mechanical motion with the ICE, if you take half of the mechanical energy and transfer it to the alternator, 70% of it is turned into electricity, then ~60% of the current is turned into potential chemical energy in HHO. The HHO goes back into the engine gives up its energy at an efficiency of approximately 40%. If you do the math, only 3.36 joules of the original 20 are converted back into mechanical energy. Any questions?
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
@yellowmetalcyborg You are assuming that the alternator is at 100% capacity, which it is often not. I understand your logic and you may be correct. However, HHO buffs assume that the alternator produces energy that is otherwise wasted. Others claim that the presence of HHO in the gasolene increases the efficency of its chemical reaction in the combustion chamber adding a factor not directly related to the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. If I knew the answer, I would not be experimenting with HHO.
Marttico 1 year ago
@Marttico My theoretical example was assuming that HALF of the rotational energy was used to drive the alternator. The alternator switches on whenever the battery charge is low, regardless of whether you are at a stop or driving at 60mph. It comes down to the law of conservation of energy, you are taking rotational energy and transforming it and losing energy along the way and then transforming it back into rotation. Trust me, even the most efficient HHO generator will not increase your mileage.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
@Marttico IC engines are more like 30% efficient, SCARY THIG IS that through compustion the oxygen and hydrogen are joined once more and water vapor is created, this causes oxydation in the engine, I know because in our university practical test... that is exactly what happened.
onesuperdon 1 year ago
@onesuperdon lol more like the tail pipe... after it combusts there's nothing in the cyclinder to make it go back to water.. therefore yes, you get water right after the exaust leaves the port, which is why water comes out the tail pipes.
Me102288 1 year ago
Its easy to seperate the Hydrogen gass from the Oxygen.. the annode and cathode just need to be placed further apart and the electrolysis tank can even be parshely seperated, just adding oxygen will help boost the stociometric A/F ratio so more fule can burn thus increasing the power that can be delivered by the engine, but this wont increase efficiency, the hydrogen and oxygen will though, but with the chance of oxydation
onesuperdon 1 year ago
@Marttico should see the everyday average joe running an hho generator into his intake manifold. the same engine running on the hho is making electricity via a permanent magnet motor (no loss because no need to electromagnetize the core), 100% power output for the cost of.. wait... a glass of water :-)
Me102288 1 year ago
@yellowmetalcyborg bingo dude, getting electricity from hydrogen your better off running a small engine that turns a huge altenator, gee I always wondered why my electricity meter isn't moving :-)
Me102288 1 year ago
@Me102288 Whatever that meant, getting electricity from hydrogen isn't economical or efficient, no matteer how you look at it, you will always expend more energy splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen than you will retrieve when you burn the gas, this is a proven fact and there is no way you can prove otherwise.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
@yellowmetalcyborg Thats what I just said lol, Thats why I use hho in a combustion engine, the engine drives a pma altenator, that puts out 24 volts at around 1kilowatt.(thats 1000 watts divided by 24(volts) = 41 amps). And the hho generator is taking 12volts at 6 amp'ish (thats 12v x 6amp = 72 watts) so technically I'v already broken over unity?? 1000 watts from altenator and I'm taking about 72 watts with hho generator. Anybody??
Me102288 1 year ago
@Me102288 Yes, but according to your comment, you are generating more energy than you use to make HHO and that's impossible. Your combustion engine and alternator might be extremely efficient (close to the carnot efficiency limit of course) but the energy used to MAKE the H2 is still greater and will always be greater than the energy you will extract from your generator.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
@yellowmetalcyborg yeah that whats they said when everyone absolutely knew this plant was flat. I guess your one of the ones that says "thats impossible" when its actually working in front of you. We called ppl like that "closed minded" prove its wrong
Me102288 1 year ago
@Me102288 If I am so wrong, why don't you make a video that proves that?
I have already proven a million times over that it cannot work, you haven't given any hard evidence at all.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
@yellowmetalcyborg lol your still on the getting electricty directly out of hydrogen... I know thats ineffecient thats why I RUN IT IN THE ENGINE... the engine turns an alternator.
Me102288 1 year ago
@yellowmetalcyborg lol your still on the getting electricity directly out of hydrogen... I know thats ineffecient thats why I RUN IT IN THE ENGINE... the engine turns an alternator.. So I get FREE power, not just overunity.
Me102288 1 year ago
@Me102288 Your comment makes no sense, overunity doesn't exist, you obviously didn't run tests on your engine, I don't care about what you say, show some proof, oh, that's right you don't have any.
Please write more clearly, you comments are difficult to understand.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
@yellowmetalcyborg LoL I guess you'll never learn then, here watch?v=cMlciNOyo_U
these university students pulled of totally free energy.
Me102288 1 year ago
@yellowmetalcyborg LoL I guess you'll never learn then, here --> watch?v=cMlciNOyo_U
these university students pulled of totally free energy.
Me102288 1 year ago
@yellowmetalcyborg LoL I guess you'll never learn then, here --> watch?v=cMlciNOyo_U
these university students pulled of totally free energy. Well, it takes water.
Me102288 1 year ago
@Me102288 *facepalm*
You really believe anything you see in a video. Did they show any graphs, and voltage readings, any equations, nope, they just pushed a cart around the university campus. Waw, I'm really convinced now, in fact I'm so convinced that I will believe anything I see in any video about free energy on the internet. Oh, the internet, what a great place, so full of potential, and scammers, words cannot describe my hate.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
@yellowmetalcyborg they started it with an exteral hho generator until the onboard altenator picked up enough rpm's to produce enough hho to run the engine, then he disconnected it and let the thing run, I'd figure thats simple enough to understand since your all into scientific calculations, like perhaps you know how you can put in 12v @ 6 amps and get an extra 400 watts to run that great big 400w light bulb. Well theres lots of ppl using hho in there cars so I figure I'll say a buck. taa taa
Me102288 1 year ago
@Me102288 What you fail to realize, is that an alternator slows down when it's connected to a load, according to lenz's law, a magnet in motion relative to an electrical conductor induces a current and an opposing magnetic field that slows it down, no free energy, the alternator will eventually stop and the whole rig ceases to work. People who have HHO generators are sheeple, they can't think for themselves, they follow the wrong ideas of others.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
@yellowmetalcyborg Mr. Lenz was also dead long dead before these permanent magnet generator technology was found.. the right hand rule still applys acording to his rule but 2 magnet of oposite polarity will cancel what your reffering to is called "magnetic flux" buy pulling these magnets apart and passing them over the coils equally thereby keep the flux inbetween the magnets. I think you really should read up on the advancing technology.
Me102288 1 year ago
@Me102288 Advancing techology?! You are reffering to an axial flux alternator, a relatively old technology that has been around for quite some time, it has an average efficiency of 98%. It doesn't get much better than that. I know all about it and, you sir, are the one who should go study some basic and fundamental principles of physics. Google "electromagnetic induction", the fundamental principle that governs the efficiency of an alternator.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
@yellowmetalcyborg lol your a nut. I said free energy not perpetual motion.... lol..... I also though you knew you have to feed hho cells water too..... I didn'y say lenz was wrong either. How can you possibly think these rules are like permanant walls that ,man cant possible pass. lol I already know perpetual motion is bunk even if it could be posible, what would the output shaft, a toothpick?
Me102288 1 year ago
Then what do you mean by "free energy"? Are you talking about a machine that creates more energy than it consumes? If so, you can take the output and feed that energy into the input and get a flywheel that accellerates until it hits the speed of light (perpetual motion). Rules are rules, you can't bend the laws of physics, if you can disprove them, they are no longer valid, so far no one has disproven them. The only way to get a net energy yield from water is to fuse hydrogen atoms together.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
@yellowmetalcyborg WATER IS FREE, I PUT WATER IN, I GET ELECTRICITY OUT...so far nobody has disproven what? combustion engines run on explosive gas's.. check.. Altenators nowadays are capable of 10x the power output.. check. LoL your "rules" are older then the technology your basing them on, Mr Lenz couldn't see into the future. In the meantime I buying more dry cells for more energy.
Me102288 1 year ago
How do you get electricity out of water? I'm just curious. You split H2O into HHO, 60% efficiency, you burn the gas in an engine, 30% efficiency, you turn an alternator, 98% efficiency at best that will feed electricity into the electrolytic cell 60% efficiency. Hmm, looks like you are losing 90% of the electricity you started with, looks like a very efficient proscess. Even if everything was 100% efficient, it wouldn't be worth it.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
@yellowmetalcyborg I'm not getting electricity from water like I've explained several times, I'm use'in hydrogen to fuel a 35cc combustion engine. it turns an permanent magnet alternator.
Me102288 1 year ago
@Me102288 Where did you get the hydrogen? You're not getting energy from nothing, the laws of physics dictate that the energy must come from somewhere in order to do work.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
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Me102288 1 year ago
@yellowmetalcyborg WATER IS FREE, I PUT WATER IN, I GET ELECTRICITY OUT...so far nobody has disproven what? combustion engines run on explosive gas's.. check.. Altenators nowadays are capable of 10x the power output.. check. LoL your "rules" are older then the technology your basing them on, Mr Lenz couldn't see into the future. In the meantime I buying more dry cells for more energy. Oh fusing atoms? GET OFF THAT, I'M FUCKING EXPLODED IT IN AN ENGINE. ITS CALLED TORQUE. NOT A FUEL CELL
Me102288 1 year ago
@Me102288 Oh, and don't say that Lenz was wrong without evidence, if he was alive, he would have shown you overwelming amounts of evidence disproving the existence of perpetual motion machines.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
@Me102288 Oh and another thing, "until the onboard altenator picked up enough rpm's", that would also be considered potential energy, energy stored in the circular motion of the alternator. Therefore, this rig was working off of stored energy, not energy it was able to produce all by itself from thin air (or water).
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
IT TAKES MORE ENERGY TO MAKE H THAN IT GIVES WHEN BURNED...THAT IS A PROVED FACT
micheltariq 1 year ago
Explosive HHO? You DO realise HHO= H20= water right?
Shoyrou 1 year ago
That is correct - it is a stoichiometrical reaction. Still two Hydrogen atoms for each Oxygen atom. HHO refers to the highly unstable mixture of the water molecule's elements. I assure you, it is indeed, quite explosive.
Do you realize you cannot even spell the word realize correctly?
Marttico 1 year ago 2
@Marttico I do realize it was a typo
Shoyrou 1 year ago
@Marttico i acedentaly burned my finger experimentig XD
CEFD11777 1 year ago
@Shoyrou in the gas form both o2 and h2 are VERY explosive. More explosive then gasoline or methonal for that matter.... the fact is we need 9x less hho in the cylinders then gasoline, other then pulling the ignition timing back a bit, all combustion engines will tun on it.
Me102288 1 year ago
What a load of CRAP!
element2310 1 year ago
would have been better if you added a larger wire to allow more flow of electricity
cmb271 1 year ago
It is possible to disassociate hydrogen from oxygen by splitting water with it's resonant frequency. Look up Stanley Meyer. You can use up to half an amp and produce more HHO with very little power by using circuitry frequency instead of brute force electrolysis.
bcoulal 1 year ago
@bcoulal Stanley Meyer was a con artist too, and he couldn't prove that his so called 'technology' worked when asked to do so by the court after 2 investors took him to court becuase they got duped into buying one of his dud franchises. If it actually did work we'd all be driving around in cars using his technology right now and he wouldn't have got ordered to hand back the money. So if you are so gullible as to believe any claim by Meyer feel free to have the wool pulled over your eyes
Voxson1 1 year ago
Hmm lets see this logic: 1. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, 2. OUR SUN is powered by hydrogen (in which all life exists on earth because of it), 3. Our bodies need hydrogen to transport electrons and water to stay "hydrated", 4. Hydrogen is THREE TIMES MORE POWERFUL than Gasoline and oh it gets better! 5. Hydrogen is considered 130+ Octane and can be compressed into 100% liquid before it IGNITES.
bcoulal 1 year ago
Why don't they use gasoline or kerosine in Rockets in which they propel into space? Exactly......Hydrogen and Oxygen produces Hundreds times more power than measly Fossil fuels.
bcoulal 1 year ago
to increase production, dump a heaping teaspoon of baking soda into the jar. that is how i make mine produce more. cold starts are nearly a thing of the past for my 80 model car with a 76 model engine.
MacGyver0076 1 year ago
this is a family clip, don't swear redneck! :D
xMarkuzx 1 year ago
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titannium dragon stic to the comics your wet bihined the ears age is showing but to the normal folk i say hellow did you now dc motors make curen just like a genarator when spun by hand or drill or added to your pully system or added to a fan blade on top of car or drug bihined car i use a razor scootor motor the faster you go the more curent is produed dont hook to cars elictrical system the dc motor makes more than car can handel you will fry bateriehook strait to hho cell .wind power dc motor
zuseable 1 year ago
That's funny..he says 'it works' as if he's onto some great thing. Sure everyone knows that one of these mason jar hho devices can produce a few hydrogen bubbles when hooked up to a car battery but it won't do anything to decrease the amount of gasoline your engine uses! Infact it will more than likely cause an increase in your gas consumption and cost you more money to run your car.
VillaLobos43 1 year ago 8
@VillaLobos43 Actually the only way to increase gas consumption in your engine is to increase the size of the fuel injectors or irresponsible driving. How about your electrolyze water into an empty bottle and hold it in your hands and tell me it isn't a powerful explosion. We'll see who's laughing by then. It doesn't take much HHO to make a big boom.
bcoulal 1 year ago
@bcoulal An electrolysis cell produces such a small amount of hydrogen that it does nothing to imporove fuel mileage. And you can never get back more energy than what it took to produce it in the first place, so because you had a full quota of energy reserve in your gas tank and are continually losing energy because gas to hydrogen via an electrolysis cell always involves losses you're actually cheating yourself out of gasoline energy which you had and money because the loss is costing you $
Voxson1 1 year ago
@Voxson1 might want to look at the 21+ litre 118 plate cell.. you honestly think we're that stupid a ppl not to advance technology? lol wait a year then tell me they don't produce enough lol
Me102288 1 year ago
@bcoulal And because the electrical draw of the electrolysis system is causing your alternator to work harder and not spin as freely as if you didn't have the system on, it actually causes your fuel consumption to go up for no benefit other than to have some device which is producing a few molecules of hydrogen which do nothing whatsoever to benefit your fuel economy.
Voxson1 1 year ago
@Voxson1 lookup permanent magnet alternators, with a rectifier these cant get "harder" to spin, you thinking perhaps like a dc moter.
Me102288 1 year ago
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ezbzeric1 1 year ago
@VillaLobos43 You are definitely correct about the consumption of gasoline in an engine. But what happens if we can control the flow on gasoline? With a RIGHT (meaning a sufficient amount of air that is mixed with hydrogen) tune to the computer, the engine can consume more air flow mixture than the gasoline. Thus, we can reduce the usage of gasoline and use a little more hydrogen in the combustion. Products such as SAFC, (Super air flow converter) it is manageable to achieve such results.
ezbzeric1 1 year ago
@ezbzeric1 Interesting theory about controlling the fuel going into the engine while mixing it with hydrogen, there's a slight problem though in that these electrolysis cells don't produce anywhere near enough hydrogen to have any effect. The 30Amps of the vehicle electrical system is insufficient to make the required amount. That's why the car did not start on Mythbusters when they hooked up the cell to the engine but it did start when they piped pure hydrogen from a bottle into the air intake
Abreen11 1 year ago
@Abreen11 Marine grade alternator, more like 100 amps, oh also I've seen cells put out as much as 25 litres per minute. Since hho is more explosive then gasoline you actually need less... mine puts out around 2 litre/min, it onlt draws 3 to 4 amps at 12 volts :-\
Me102288 1 year ago
@Me102288 Well actually you need somewhere in the vicinity of 500amps to produce anywhere near enough hydrogen to make a difference, so you're still short 400amps with the 'marine grade alternator'. And even at that there aren't too many 'marine grade alternators' being used in automobiles. I hear so many people say lots of things like 'they've seen a cell produce 25/L pm' but funny how they can give no proof of it.
Abreen11 1 year ago
@Abreen11 well here ya go then..... just paste to youtube search: watch?v=Lk1fFSkfSg4 by the way , more like 12v at 30 amps... you know how to calculate it? its volts x amps = watts. you got it kinda backwards.. by the way, permanent magnet altenators are identicle on the outside, so you could easily swap them :-\, they dont come with them because they dont need too.
Me102288 1 year ago
@Me102288 I watched the vid and it doesn't prove that hho works to save fuel. We see bubbles coming from a glass tube which is mounted on a workshop bench, not inside a car hood powering an engine. A guy who is saying all kinds of numbers, one of which caught my attention when he said at 240V which is mains voltage, not auto voltage. He needs to have it fitted to a car, the car needs to be put on a dyno at an independent test centre and the test needs to be done in a proper and controlled manner
Abreen11 1 year ago
@Me102288 I'm sorry but hho used to save fuel has been shown to be a con job, mainly because no proper proof that it works can be given from those promoting it, and facts based on thermodynamics prove it to be so..so hho promoters can rant and rave about all kinds of figures as much as they like...until proper evidence is shown that it actually works to save fuel it will always be classified as a con job...
Abreen11 1 year ago
@Abreen11 yeah that must be why there's thousands of people doing it. See its a good thing to keep your mind open, because if we dont, we will run out of fossil fuels, and your saying its a con?
I have a single question. Have you ever actually had one to do all these experiments yourself? Far as thermodynamics has nothing to do with simple electrolysis. And we already know combustion engines run on explosive gas.
Me102288 1 year ago
@Me102288 Thousands of people are doing it and finding out that they have either been conned if they are paying someone to install one of these devices or have wasted their good time and money if they did it themselves. There's a difference between having an open mind and being a sucker. HHO will not solve the fossil fuel problem, of which it will not run out in our lifetime, other genuine sources like solar energy do go some way to contribute to easing the amount of reliance on fossile fuel.
Abreen11 1 year ago
@Me102288 I do not need to try one of the hho devices, the lack of proper evidence inter alia combined with the many unsubstantiated claims made my those promoting these devices points to the fact that it's a scam. If there's no proper proof to the contrary I would be silly to try it. Thermodynamics has quite a bit to do with electrolysis as it's the basis of how energy works when it converts from one form to another. You are converting from gasoline to hydrogen and losing more than gaining
Abreen11 1 year ago
@Abreen11 then don't bother trying to disprove it, And those who know it works will continue using it.
P.s. gasoline isn't as explosive as hydrogen + oxygen. you need about 19x less in a combustion engine.. might want to look at the atomic nature of hydrogen...
Me102288 1 year ago
@Me102288 Like I say I don't need to disprove something which cannot be proven to be true in the first place. I know that hho doesn't work to save fuel based on the evidence available, if it were actually true that it did work these people who promote hho would have won the Nobel Prize. The fact is that you can never get back more energy than what it took to produce it in the first place and because of the losses involved converting from gasoline to hydrogen you end up with less energy
Abreen11 1 year ago
@Abreen11 Eistein said the energy in 30 kilograms of water, is aprox. = to 10 MILLION gallons of oil.. you figure we didn't get better at extacting it? LoL ya, were so fk'in stupid were still flying biplanes and riding on horse drawn buggy. LoL I suppose you didn't read up on the fool who didn't believe the sound barrier was passible, nowadays by 6x over.. learning is great. I love it, wonder what we'll find out next year.
Me102288 1 year ago
@VillaLobos43 and kill your O2 sensors >.> and thermostat
zomgwtfbbqbagel 1 year ago
@zomgwtfbbqbagel hho doesnt burn hotter lol it explodes faster. O2 sensor doesnt die it adjusts fuel because hho makes it think its lean. the thermostat is in the RADIATOR not the engine...
Me102288 1 year ago
"...it fucking works...!!!!" lol best line ever
sweet shit. gunna try and make one of these soon
Pyrro123456789 2 years ago
the only thing my shop has seen gone wrong is that sometimes it won't bypass the ECU and it screws up. if you are running a weak ECU though it will work great
musclekid13 2 years ago
i have installed 6 of these on 6 cars and all of them have a 40% increase in gas mileage.
macdiesel5spd 2 years ago
Are you serius????
Damn great!!!
adrianalanis20000 2 years ago
thats bullshit.
proaudiohd 2 years ago
does this completely eliminate the use of fossil fuel or does it still have too be used in tandem with the gasoline?
Covertmaddroxx1 2 years ago
Its a scam. It doesn't increase fuel efficiency at all.
TitaniumDragon 2 years ago 3
actualy man I wasnt actualy asking you, I was asking the man who posted the vid
Covertmaddroxx1 2 years ago
electrolytes???? lol
austn12345 2 years ago
I improved my fuel consumption from 47 mpg to 51.5 mpg (imperial gallons) simply by adjusting my driving style. (car is a 1997 Citroen Xantia turbo-diesel with 156,000 on the clock) If these HHO devices are so easy to make then why aren't manufacturers factory fitting them. As the car industry is in a mess it would be in their interests to make cars more fuel efficient using the cheapest methods. So far we've not seen one person carry out a proper controlled test of these HHO units.
TK42138 2 years ago
These devices ARE easy to make, but they require a good deal of maintenance and monitoring. Most motorists do not want to have to do anything but fill the gas tank and pay some guy to change the oil every 5000 miles.
If you make it practical and safe, suddenly it isn't so cheap anymore.
Marttico 2 years ago
Good point.
I think I'm going to build one of these gas generators and see if my MPG improves without having to carry out hypermilling techniques. If I then see a marked improvement without resorting to having to watch the speedometer and never straying over 70 then I will be impressed. I realise that you can't get enough HHO to run an engine purely on HHO but if it improves combustion then I should see a cleaner exhaust and better gas mileage.
TK42138 2 years ago
Hydrogen gas and glass jars don't mix. If it goes BOOM you'll be picking glass out of your face for a week.
noelsingletary 2 years ago
"It's ALIVE, It's ALIIIIVE"!! My creation is ALIVE. I felt the same way when I made my HHO cell. Cool shit!
eandatoo 2 years ago
add baking soda in the water its betta just saying,
cobrafriends 2 years ago
im sorry but this will do nothing but ruin your engin.
iv been doing some research on the internet and it seems that this conbination dose not create hydrogen. only carbon dioxied. you got shafted.
thelasthallow 2 years ago
I did not get shafted as I built this for very little money and the plans were free.
It seems you need to continue your research because CO2 will not explode like this stuff does when ignited. See my "Explosive HHO" video for a demo.
Marttico 2 years ago
how can you get carbon dioxide from this?
GOODolAMERICANMUSCLE 2 years ago
aparently its a reaction from some of the chemicals used.
thelasthallow 2 years ago
you my friend, are a moron! Water is made of oxygen and hydrogen - this splits the water into gas and produces what is commonly known as Brown's Gas or HHO - not an ounce of CO2 to be found...
fantaisadog 2 years ago
There is no such thing as "Brown's Gas" or HHO - anyone who says these things exist is either an idiot or a scammer.
Lysing water produces two things - H2 and O2, in a 2:1 ratio (H2 being hydrogen, and O2 being oxygen). However, it takes more energy to lyse the water than you get by burning the hydrogen. This is due to the first and second laws of thermodynamics. You lose energy to overcome entropy, as well as to waste heat.
Something like this can never -generate- energy.
TitaniumDragon 2 years ago 2
This wont generate energy... the device releases stored energy - gas is used when the engine needs a boost... the alternator stores energy in the car battery - the lyser liberates combustible gas when the car needs a boost - e.g during acceleration up hill - needing less petrol
on the down hill run the alternator stores electrical energy ready to produce more gas when required...
this system needs gravity and kinetic energy to create electrical energy - and will not work on a test bench!
fantaisadog 2 years ago
This won't work either for obvious reasons. Why?
Reread what you wrote. "the alternator stores energy in the car battery". It is far more energy efficient to store energy in the battery than to lyse hydrogen from water. Ergo, this can only hurt your mileage, because it is -less- efficient at doing what your car does itself.
TitaniumDragon 2 years ago 3
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So how do you explain the 23% increase in fuel efficiency that I have created on a 3.1 litre diesel Isuzu Trooper... must be something to do with direction of prevailing winds... fluke results... faulty calcs... erm... the colour of the sky on thursday mornings...? (we recorded fuel use over 4 months without the system and 4 months with - the results speak for themselves...) If you haven't tried it for yourself first hand on your own vehicle - put up or shut up!
fantaisadog 2 years ago
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I can explain it easily:
You are a con artist running a scam, and there is no increase in fuel efficiency whatsoever.
Sorry scammer, but you lose. I hope you enjoy jail :D
TitaniumDragon 2 years ago 5
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sorry chum... to be a con artist or a scammer I'd have to be selling something... I am a professional photographer... I make and sell photographs - but, for fun, I decided to try making a 'lyser myself to see if it does anything... for me, it actually does save fuel... What makes you think I am trying to scam anyone? Again... have you ACTUALLY tried this yourself... you can build cheaply from freely available parts, no widgets needed... if you haven't tried - go find something better to do ;-P
fantaisadog 2 years ago
I've done experiments lysing water. Shock and surprise, it takes more energy to lyse it than you get by burning the hydrogen.
The only way you'll see any sort of increase at all in efficiency is if the efficiency of your lyser is greater than the efficiency of your car battery. That's quite unlikely.
What makes me think you're trying to scam anyone?
I dunno... the fact that you're trying to scam people? Shocking!
TitaniumDragon 2 years ago 5
In your theory that it takes energy to make HHO.
What about the energy to make gasoline burn?
What about the whole process to refine fossil fuel? Fossil fuel is just as much of a scam.
There are 100's of options for HHO, but only one for fossil fuel:Pay the greedy men.
There are scams of every kind. But there are always other options.
rowannrose 2 years ago