Hi Tech Soul - The Creation Of Techno Music (Part 1 of 9)

[bumpyjason]

May is actually in his 50s now and just does not age!

[bumpyjason]

i speak to derrick online sometimes, i go like a stupid little kid and forget what i want to ask him, he's very cool guy and very down to earth.

[Gaiacarra]

I can't make head nor tail of this documentary. I watched half of it last night and felt like I walked away having learned nothing. What the hell is going on? What is everyone talking about even?

[skynett1000]

if there was no kraftwerk or telex there would be no detroit tecnho

[detroitologist]

Techno is like an occupation or a way of life in Detroit. People work all week and that is what they look forward to when the weekend comes. Elsewhere people go boating or heading to the beach or up to the mountains to ski... In Detroit people go to parties. It is not just a style of music... a 4/4 beat, voice samples, and loops. That is what commercial music is. Techno is one of the ways that people use to "place" themselves on earth... like "I am from Detroit!"

[detroitologist]

Regarding techno and Detroit, if you are from Detroit you associate the city with techno, though it is probably not your thing. If someone asked me what I was into I'd tell them techno and they would think of techno parties in abandoned warehouses, not just of club music from the radio or television. People are aware that something is happening in the inner city late at night. They know that techno is big.

[detroitologist]

Karl Benz is really the inventor of the modern automobile, but without the invention of the wheel he would have been nothing. The debate about electronic music would be the same... it is just a continuation of music. Rather than use a guitar and a drum set people used modern technology like drum computers and synths. People in Detroit and Chicago, specifically, did something to electronic music that was profound, otherwise, we would not be having the never ending debate over the rights to techno

[cordlock]

the African influence is what created house. nobody said that detroit created electronic music. you are stupid atlantic house. read any damn book about electronic music.

[atlantichouse]

@cordlock bullshit! house was simple a dying disco's attempt to latch onto the new electronic new wave coming out of europe.. it had nothing to do with some bullshit 'magical african influence' and everything to do with electronic european influence.

[uns3en]

Acid House was invented by a indian guy

Raymond Scott created IBM Probe jingle which had techno beats

Who cares? I dont. Detroit Techno rules :)

[atlantichouse]

@uns3en Raymond Scott was american russian jewish, not indian. and was a key pioneer in the creation of electro/techno.

so.. who cares? well i do! i believe that credit should be given where credit is due.

and Detroit obviously care don't they? or they wouldn't be making documentarys claiming (falsely) creation rights over the genre like this documentary - would they?

oh.. but i forgot, you don't care, do you!

[atlantichouse]

@uns3en ps thanks for the youtube link: Raymond Scott - IBM probe

[atlantichouse]

@brooksmosher yea i take your point about k stockhausen and you could add raymond scott or tom dissevelt and kid balten, laurie spielgal, delia derbyshire, jean michel jarre and every single one of them either on there own or all lumped tegether proves beyond doubt that detroits claim on the creation of techno/electro to be a complete fairy tale of there own creation.

so, sweet dreams fair prince, and let me begin... once upon a time there was this city called detroit.... zzzzzzzz

[atlantichouse]

@brooksmosher i'm saying detroit techno came from kraftwerk. i'm saying that kraftwerk is the beginning.. the origin. the root of the genre. i'm saying that where kraftwerk led, detroit followed. i'm not saying that what detroit did with the genre wasn't great because clearly it was but what i am saying it that detroits claim to be the origin of the genre we call techno/ electro is a fallacy. kraftwerk and other electro pioneers were producing dance floor electro before detroit began to produce.

[atlantichouse]

@brooksmosher what are you talking about? i love techno/electro. i love 'strings'. i love 'home computer'. i think that detroit did wonderful things with the genre, all i'm saying is that they didn't invent it (as they like to claim) you asked me for a comparison - i gave you one. if you don't like the answer, you shouldn't ask the question. and your putting words into my mouth, you said name a record that sounds like strings, i gave you home computer. where did i say strings was a blatant rip?

[atlantichouse]

@brooksmosher well you've just said it yourself most cybrotron is clearly electro which therefore is a total kraftwerk rip off. so there we have an admission of detroits techno roots being somewhere east of the rhine. but then ofcourse with your second post you moved the goal posts slightly and subtly adjusted yourself so that suddenly, magically were in the different world (bullshit) that is techno.

so name a record that sounds like 'strings'? er.. kraftwerk home computer (paris live 1981)

[atlantichouse]

@brooksmosher sounds like techno to me.

[atlantichouse]

@brooksmosher well thats not strictly true. ralf and florian (of kraftwerk fame) always had an interest in the electronic.

youtube: ralf and florians - kristallo - 1973.... now.. thats not 'krautrock'... or is it?

sound something very similiar to what detroit would later (a decade later) call techno.

[atlantichouse]

kraftwerk pioneered dance floor electro - not Detroit. by the time Detroit got hold of the electro genre it had already been formatted by kraftwerk. Detroit didn't add some special africa mixture or inject soul into the sound to come up with 'techno', they simply imitated the sound ready made, off the shelf, boil in a bag style.

It is unfortunate that Detroit now seek to claim credit 4 other people efforts and shamefull that aparently intelligent people should not challenge this fabrication.

[exiledlarky]

@atlantichouse - despite clearly being pioneers they didn't really inject the funk though did they? that claim can firmly lie in chicago & detroit.

[atlantichouse]

@exiledlarky but detroit certainly didn't inject the electro did they? (as they claim) which is the essence of the sound is it not? they certainly didn't inject the beat either but what they did inject was a lot of old bullshit about how 'they' created this sound. which clearly, they did not. That prize must go to kraftwerk and all the other pioneers of electro that came way before detroit got onboard.

[atlantichouse]

@exiledlarky sorry but regarding the special african mixture i was talking about i forgot to mention the afore mentioned FUNK.

so.. just to be clear - detroit did not inject soul, FUNK or any other special african mixture to cold european electro to produce techno. that entire idea is a fallacy put about by detroit (and repeated over and over again by docile sheep) for the sole purpose of trying to steal the electro/techno genre creation rights from its true source, namely... KRAFTWERK

[DuaneDeterville]

@atlantichouse You don't know what you're talking about. Black folks were experimenting with electronics in the music as far back as the 1950s (see Sun Ra). The first international prize for electronic music was won by a Black composer named Olly Wilson. The name of the composition was "Cetus" and he won it in 1967!! Wilson is known to study African music composition. You also need to be aware of Herbie Hancock's compositions "Nobu" from 1974 and "Rain Dance" from 1973. All before Kraftwerk.

[atlantichouse]

@DuaneDeterville all i can say is youtube; tom dissevelt and kid baltans sycopation.

all this dumb arse afrocentric view of the history of music gives me a fucking migraine..

[DjDedan]

@atlantichouse 1972 stevie wonder made Music of My Mind which featured TONTO an early synthesizer, Marvin Gaye also experimented with Synths in the late 60's early 70's... Kraftwerk were not the only ones making electronic music nor did they invent it. we can also argue the type of music kraftwerk played would not have exist with out american artist like james brown... but what would be the point. I'm sure these artist give credit to kraftwerk, telex and who ever else deserves it.

[atlantichouse]

Utter bullshit! What Detroit really did was to listen to the likes of kraftwerk and other european electronic new wave being played all over the radio at the time and then COPY IT. quite how these plagerists now come to the conclusion that it was THEY who 'invented' the genre is something that a psychiatrist would need to sit down and work out. Talk about being in denial!.. there claims are truely risible and easily disproved. Quite frankly.. if you believe this nonsense your believe anything.

[ajamu360]

Detroit represent!!!!!!!!!!!

[DeRex9]

fantastic upload



[stupiderthanjupiter]

Second bitumen83

[bitumen83]

@stupiderthanjupiter what second?

[anradoo]

Neil Rushton - research this man and learn

[GemmaJones421]

lil wayne- shine

[bitumen83]

SONG AT 8:30

PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE

anyone

[GemmaJones421]

ill have u time travellin... frendly gathering part 2.

[exiledlarky]

you do realise the documentary has multiple parts? surely?@thejason51873

[TheVoid100]

@thejason51873 wonder who's retared

[TheRafaBStudio]

@Arielforsklein I Agree with you and also Simon Baker has... The thing is they were not doing that as a movement or the reasons were anothers. They had a nice jobs at BBC and they were not going through the social and economical problems that chicago was. So watching this special conditions you have opposite purposes wich has made Detroit "the crib of techno". But i have to say that i like very much Delia Derbshyre's job but as a pioneer. By the way, are you german??? Cheers Ariel.

[Arielforsklein]

@TheRafaBStudio Thanks for the info! Nah German-american from Detroit :)

[lordoid]

I really don't know what all this fuzz about "Creators of techno music" and the role of detroit is about. What is techno music anyway? Electronic produced music you can dance to? A 4/4 beat with a straight kick and some hihats? Delia Derbshyre was doing that already 30 years before these artists. For me Detroit has nothing to do with the invention of some moniker like techno. It just created some great musicians with it's strong music scene. Like other citys around the globe did too.

[TheRelentlessAssault]

........this is a joke documentary right? techno is just a beat with weird sounds... its not a serious genre like punk or metal...

[DJZEDOFFICIAL]

@TheRelentlessAssault you are an idiot

[pL4StiKgiRL]

@TheRelentlessAssault

sad words.

[TheRafaBStudio]

@TheRelentlessAssault Have you got a degree in music? If don't i have and i would love to explain to you that you do not even know what you're talking about. If you do not like Techno, that's perfect, but you are completely off this subject.

[Austuxxx]

WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE SONG IN THE BEGGINING?

Is it Plastikman?

[TheWatcherxx99]

Dave Clarke invented Techno in his dad's shed.

[kennyconga]

a friend of mine "borrowed" my dvd of this. thanks for posting it!

[djimpossible]

JUAN ATKINS CREATIED TECHNO PERIOD

[djstewart2012]

We invented the "car Jacking" Techno/mas production of cars which made it affordable for poor people to ride. wtf planet are you on?

[djstewart2012]

I Am From Detroit

[sirjimtorbett]

too many feargal sharkeys for my liking ?! bring out the robert hoods !!!

[sunnyahsan1]

black pple made rock 2 wow man

[DarkedSshadow]

metamorphicrecs u are a dumb ass they dident start it all its a fake

[HunSavage]

It was good little documentary.

[sagessence]

I don't think Detroit has a big ego man, they did not start techno. NO way, I love Detroit techno . But they did not start it .

[DjDedan]

Huh? DId you watch the doc?

[teemad]

Derrick May is very upbeat about Detroit.

[FreddyThaNightmare]

europe got the greatest trance/techno/house/electronic

[teemad]

Can't figure which part of your statement is worse, the "Europe got the greatest" part or the "trance" part.

Either way you must be so very lost. I sympathise.

[padams24]

lol i kinda feel u on that one kinda a slap in the face to detroit thought there are some bad ass artist from europe but most of them with any soul were influenced by detroit techno

[trailextremist]

you probably meant trance gabba eurohouse and happy hardcore....

[EFKA526]

it is a global thing. without kraftwerk or tangerine dreams in the 70s, german electronic pioneers, black US hip hop culture, disco culture and the combination=Chicago House the techno stuff from detroit would not have been possible. The different scenes influence each other, always have, and always will. Electronic music is one of the few really global styles of art. It does not matter where you come from if you make decent danceable tunes!

[StricklyPhone]

Anyone know the tracks starting at

47:15

55:08

?

Ok thats confusing because its spliced on youtube lol. I mean the part just after Richie Hawtin talks about walking into a club and Jeff Mills is playing one of his tracks, and the other one is during the mountain restaurant story.

[mpresev]

thnks for this.. I listened to techno in 91 because we had a radio station called Mars 103.1 in Los Angeles that played it.. I thought Techno back then came from Europe.. I didn't know back then that it started in Michigan.  It sux that the Europeans got credited for it.

[sweepstakes]

the Europeans certainly had a hand in it, both before and after the Detroit scene of the 80s. I think these guys just about perfected it, though. also let's not forget YMO from Japan.

[MetamorphicRecs]

trust me, credit is in Detroit, nobody disputes this

[TalkingTheSame]

bring the beat back.

[wokensoulsounds07]

7:42 ~ 7:53 that is

[KarlheinzSchelker]

That guy must be the exception to what he's talking about...

[wokensoulsounds07]

haha yeah right

[wokensoulsounds07]

7:51 is the funniest thing i have ever seen on youtube.

[florisvaneck]

Name of the openingstrack:

Plastikman - Marbles

Awesome acid track!

[pitch2cv]

This must be the best docu ever on Detroit Techno. Great interviews providing an awsome insight... respect!

[KoszmarPL]

Trck in 08:30 ?

[elefou]

What's the track at the beginning?

[ILoVeIBIZa4ever]

I <3 DETROIT ni nombres,ni caras ni fama ni dnero solo revolucion techno(UR) Underground Resistance MANDA!!

[paulichy]

GRACIAS X COLGAR ESTO

THANK YOU!

[koolzainski]

volume is tooooooo low