Aren't the Occitans themselves descended from the very same Gauls mixed with some Germanic (and possibly Roman-Italian) elements? Didn't they simply spoke a differently distorted version of Latin? Don't misunderstand, I'm absolutely pro Occitania and contra official French oppression of different languages and cultural traditions. I just don't understand the "gauling".
By the way, presenting the Hungarian-Greek Jew Szarközy as a Gaul is more than absurd.
About Sárközy, you may add his wife is Italian and still, despite all this mixed blood and cultures in and around him, the man is fiercely and blindly French that anything or anyone challenging the alleged grandeur and glory of France is perceived as a threat to its own existence as the standard-bearer of liberty. Occitans and the rest of the French citizens descending from former colonies and provinces fall into that category when they dare stand for their rights.
As for Occitans, they're mostly earlier Latinized Celts (hence the names Provence & Provençal) & ancient dwellers (the Aquitan tongue was close to Basque). French people proper come from Holland & later moved to Franconia & Northern France. France's royal emblem, the fleur-de-lys is not a lily (as the name suggests) but an iris, which is common around Dutch river Luts (hence Old English & French fleur-de-luce where c was pronounced ts). L'Île-de-France is also thought to come from Lilde France.
Quite a few but all are native French speakers too. Things were very different not so long ago. The imposition of the French language was somewhat brutal. From Wikipedia: "Some researchers state that up to seven million people in France understand the language while twelve to fourteen million fully spoke it in 1921. In 1860, Occitan speakers represented more than 39% of the whole French population (52% for francophones proper); they were still 26 to 36% in the 1920s and less than 7% in 1993."
Valencia, Catalunya, ses illes.... mateixa lenga germana, occitan lenga mare de les nostres... ta lenga val la mieuna, plegats faram una lenga de libertats
lo lop de la lenga catalana e occitan es frança e Espanha... em de fer que lo lop siga nosaltres per la lenga cancerigena frança e espanha
Qui es lo lop? ièu pensi qu'es pas lo pelut, mai crèc beicar una crabeta ambó lo peus de lop!!qui me dirá qui es la crabeta mòrta? la praube lenga occitana, que la França se l'a malhat!!
Last post: If the French government exalts itself the world "leader" in cultural & religious freedom, the Occitan situation is otherwise hypocritical and not in line with all of Europe (or the U.S. for that matter). I'm from California, where we have 60 languages and perhaps more Spanish than English speakers, plus the state government recognizes their right to exist: taught at public schools, on privately owned media and ethnic communities are freely using Spanish or any minority language. +
Reading Occitan (words & phrases) on the music video, I'm reminded alot of Catalan and distantly, Castillian Spanish, both are traced to the Roman-Frankish speech with little Gaullic influence of the South of France from 400 AD to 1600. A major factor to Occitan is pre-Roman Iberian tribes like the Basques, have a language not related to any modern European one going back to the earliest record of western history (8,000 years ago?). But Occitan isn't Basque but a true local language. +
Rock on, Occitania! I wanna see how Sarkozy reacts to the mounting evidence of the revival of Occitan and other "patois" he calls it throughout France. Sure, they gave regional official (not national) status to languages not based on French, or the French Republic would turn multilingual in every "patois" there is. If the "liberal" nature of France is to promote tolerance and multiculturalism in the 21st century, the European Union composed of 100 languages, major & minor, France hasn't cared. +
French president is belong to french bonapartism, all ! could we choose ? I'm not sure. Either, what about the regionals one ? La tèrra occitana es estada sempre mesprezada per França, sempre ... Mas sem encara viu e volem la DIGNITAT !
El millor d'aquest vídeo és el text que has posat a la cançó. T'ho agraesc, així m'és més fàcil d'aprendre la vostra llengua. Salutacions des de Magúncia!
Weird you didn't criticize Pompidou, the very Occitan former president of France, same for Giscard d'Estaing supposed to be from Chamalières, Auvergne, and Mitterand from Cognac gets just a little line or maybe that's because he's a Socialist...
Adieu Auxane! There were others I could've taunted too, past and present, but all I had was three minutes and a couple of main characters to choose from. Giscard and Mitterrand are traitors to their roots, we couldn't agree more. I'm non-political: all I know is things must change now and they're not going to for another 5 long years... France is a lie!
parece català, on dirai du catalan
Pharoh808 6 months ago
Aren't the Occitans themselves descended from the very same Gauls mixed with some Germanic (and possibly Roman-Italian) elements? Didn't they simply spoke a differently distorted version of Latin? Don't misunderstand, I'm absolutely pro Occitania and contra official French oppression of different languages and cultural traditions. I just don't understand the "gauling".
By the way, presenting the Hungarian-Greek Jew Szarközy as a Gaul is more than absurd.
kexember 7 months ago
About Sárközy, you may add his wife is Italian and still, despite all this mixed blood and cultures in and around him, the man is fiercely and blindly French that anything or anyone challenging the alleged grandeur and glory of France is perceived as a threat to its own existence as the standard-bearer of liberty. Occitans and the rest of the French citizens descending from former colonies and provinces fall into that category when they dare stand for their rights.
AnPrionsaBeag 7 months ago
As for Occitans, they're mostly earlier Latinized Celts (hence the names Provence & Provençal) & ancient dwellers (the Aquitan tongue was close to Basque). French people proper come from Holland & later moved to Franconia & Northern France. France's royal emblem, the fleur-de-lys is not a lily (as the name suggests) but an iris, which is common around Dutch river Luts (hence Old English & French fleur-de-luce where c was pronounced ts). L'Île-de-France is also thought to come from Lilde France.
AnPrionsaBeag 7 months ago
@DroidNoid
In Toulouse I don't know but in the south of France a lot of.
64Heloise 8 months ago
Quite a few but all are native French speakers too. Things were very different not so long ago. The imposition of the French language was somewhat brutal. From Wikipedia: "Some researchers state that up to seven million people in France understand the language while twelve to fourteen million fully spoke it in 1921. In 1860, Occitan speakers represented more than 39% of the whole French population (52% for francophones proper); they were still 26 to 36% in the 1920s and less than 7% in 1993."
AnPrionsaBeag 10 months ago
Quora França daissara sos diferents pobles liure ? E quora aqueles pobles lucharan per pas perder lor cultura ?
grandeloche 10 months ago
viva occitania
Florianooccitan31 1 year ago
A mon pais om dit : "vi lo lop, la lebre, e lo rainau dançar, fason lo torn de l'abre, sin podre s'attrapar !"
mirefleurs 1 year ago
lluita contra l'ocupació
fillfucker 1 year ago
Limouzi libre!
fanacsp 2 years ago
força Occitania, and all the stateless nations of Europe.
AlPeriodic 2 years ago 9
Visca occitania! Salut tamben des valencia!
blackprotoss 2 years ago 2
salutacions des de valencia
mannueldevalencia 2 years ago 2
salutacions desde valencia
mannueldevalencia 2 years ago
Anybody could tell me where can I download this song?
PuxaAsturiesDixebra 2 years ago
Capiscu u spiritu, è mi pare bonissimu !
CorsicaNustrale 2 years ago
@CorsicaNustrale Viva la Corsica libera!
MacKlaus71 1 year ago
Valencia, Catalunya, ses illes.... mateixa lenga germana, occitan lenga mare de les nostres... ta lenga val la mieuna, plegats faram una lenga de libertats
lo lop de la lenga catalana e occitan es frança e Espanha... em de fer que lo lop siga nosaltres per la lenga cancerigena frança e espanha
lonostrecatala 2 years ago 7
FORÇA OCCITANIA VISCA VALENCIA
Por siempre y siempre sera :D.
yamiharu84 2 years ago 2
Lengadocian e fier de l'estre n'ai un sadol de França desiri mai de libertat e mai d'occitan
cfc34000 2 years ago 3
Mi padre es Occitan (Provença) y Corso/Mi madre es valenciana!
Dos regiones HERMANAS occitania-Valencia! no soy para la independencia pero no hay que olvidar de donde se viene! la lengua de nuestra region !
Força Occitania! Visca Valencia!
francoespanol 3 years ago 2
Qui es lo lop? ièu pensi qu'es pas lo pelut, mai crèc beicar una crabeta ambó lo peus de lop!!qui me dirá qui es la crabeta mòrta? la praube lenga occitana, que la França se l'a malhat!!
ignatievich 3 years ago
Last post: If the French government exalts itself the world "leader" in cultural & religious freedom, the Occitan situation is otherwise hypocritical and not in line with all of Europe (or the U.S. for that matter). I'm from California, where we have 60 languages and perhaps more Spanish than English speakers, plus the state government recognizes their right to exist: taught at public schools, on privately owned media and ethnic communities are freely using Spanish or any minority language. +
devulboy1 3 years ago
Reading Occitan (words & phrases) on the music video, I'm reminded alot of Catalan and distantly, Castillian Spanish, both are traced to the Roman-Frankish speech with little Gaullic influence of the South of France from 400 AD to 1600. A major factor to Occitan is pre-Roman Iberian tribes like the Basques, have a language not related to any modern European one going back to the earliest record of western history (8,000 years ago?). But Occitan isn't Basque but a true local language. +
devulboy1 3 years ago
Rock on, Occitania! I wanna see how Sarkozy reacts to the mounting evidence of the revival of Occitan and other "patois" he calls it throughout France. Sure, they gave regional official (not national) status to languages not based on French, or the French Republic would turn multilingual in every "patois" there is. If the "liberal" nature of France is to promote tolerance and multiculturalism in the 21st century, the European Union composed of 100 languages, major & minor, France hasn't cared. +
devulboy1 3 years ago 2
occitania lliure!! la lluita dels poble continua!
ourensegaliza 3 years ago 2
Occitània i el País Valencià tenen més en comú que Paris i Dijon.
Occitans, Andorrans, Valencians, Catalans i Mallorquins.... tots germans!
joancatala 3 years ago 4
Occitan music rocks!
PedroDamin 3 years ago 2
the music is germany.. see the info
Selassei69 3 years ago
But "Ai vist lo lop" is a traditional occitan song from Middle Ages.
DanVilAl 3 years ago
French president is belong to french bonapartism, all ! could we choose ? I'm not sure. Either, what about the regionals one ? La tèrra occitana es estada sempre mesprezada per França, sempre ... Mas sem encara viu e volem la DIGNITAT !
Godilhaire 4 years ago 3
El millor d'aquest vídeo és el text que has posat a la cançó. T'ho agraesc, així m'és més fàcil d'aprendre la vostra llengua. Salutacions des de Magúncia!
CatalanBenjamin 4 years ago 4
hèra plan
Visca Occitània!!!
OccitaniaLiura 4 years ago 5
Weird you didn't criticize Pompidou, the very Occitan former president of France, same for Giscard d'Estaing supposed to be from Chamalières, Auvergne, and Mitterand from Cognac gets just a little line or maybe that's because he's a Socialist...
Auxane 4 years ago
Adieu Auxane! There were others I could've taunted too, past and present, but all I had was three minutes and a couple of main characters to choose from. Giscard and Mitterrand are traitors to their roots, we couldn't agree more. I'm non-political: all I know is things must change now and they're not going to for another 5 long years... France is a lie!
AnPrionsaBeag 4 years ago