hey buddy i watched the first part of the speech and i got to tell you i think i know where he gets his hate. it would take hours just to refute all the implications of just this first ten minutes. also i thought i would let you know that atheism is not new, it is much much older than Christianity. also just so you know i am a practicing Christian, that means i love you and believe Jesus loves you even though you don't appear to love Him. later
Thank you and i am sorry again for the confusion. I was not in anyway trying to even suggest that you believe in Jesus, I was only saying that I do and that I believe He loves you regardless of any belief you have or have not.
Not at all Bill, that was understood.What may not be understood is that neither do I (nor do I think Ingersoll for that matter) hate Jesus. I agree with some of the teachings of Christianity, just not the supernatural underpinings.
I did not intend to imply that you hated anyone; it was only that as i listened to the speech of Ingersoll that i really got the sense of hate and resentment. His words drip with hostility and superiority i believe (i believe now, not anyone else) rise directly from #1 pride and #2 hate.
The first part of this speech takes aim at gods in general, and how they tend to possess the attributes (both good and bad) of the people who invent them. Jehovah is included among those other deities.
It is true that because he lived in a Christian country and was more familiar with the Bible than with other holy books, the bulk of his criticism was aimed at Christianity. I've no doubt that had he been born and raised in India, Hinduism would have been his focus.
I've read everything that Robert Green Ingersoll wrote. (My prized possession is a first edition of his complete works, published in 1899.) While his focus was Christianity, he often spoke about, e.g., the "Hindoos" and the particulars of their faith. And he found their religion no more compelling than he did Christianity (less so, in fact).
What Ingersoll fought was ignorance and superstition, which he felt was perpetuated by all religions.
In a broader sense, he is attacking the hubris of human beings, who invent and worship gods that are little more than transparent manifestations of people's own flawed nature. (He inverts Pope's "an honest man is the noblest work of God" to good effect.)
It's worth noting that Ingersoll was an agnostic, not an atheist, and never denied the possibility of a Creator. What he objected to were the primitive, barbaric, and immoral deities that most human beings choose to worship.
How do you still call yourself a Christian after watching R.G.I's Videos? Have you seen his other videos "The Mistakes Of Moses" Etc? You have to be DELUDED to continue to worship your BEAST of a Christian God....
This vid is a favorite on Cambodia
edstone61n 1 month ago
This video went viral on Sierra Leone
wyattorr820 2 months ago
ingersoll wasn't fat. those are his giant balls bulging in his pants.
wubbadubdub 3 months ago
@wubbadubdub Never mind Chuck Norris jokes, this is a trend to start!
Cafeeine 3 months ago
Very awesome human being..highly underrated! Freethinkers unite.
who is this "jesus guy"? mythic monster?
mravoid 1 year ago
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sausage4mash 2 years ago
hey buddy i watched the first part of the speech and i got to tell you i think i know where he gets his hate. it would take hours just to refute all the implications of just this first ten minutes. also i thought i would let you know that atheism is not new, it is much much older than Christianity. also just so you know i am a practicing Christian, that means i love you and believe Jesus loves you even though you don't appear to love Him. later
billredeemed 2 years ago
Thanks for the comment.
The reason I posted this was to make the point (that some theists miss) that atheism didn't start with Dawkins.
I thank you for your love, I believe it sincere. However I do not believe the divine being Jesus exists, so I can't really love it, nor it me.
Cafeeine 2 years ago
Thank you and i am sorry again for the confusion. I was not in anyway trying to even suggest that you believe in Jesus, I was only saying that I do and that I believe He loves you regardless of any belief you have or have not.
billredeemed 2 years ago
Not at all Bill, that was understood.What may not be understood is that neither do I (nor do I think Ingersoll for that matter) hate Jesus. I agree with some of the teachings of Christianity, just not the supernatural underpinings.
Cafeeine 2 years ago
I did not intend to imply that you hated anyone; it was only that as i listened to the speech of Ingersoll that i really got the sense of hate and resentment. His words drip with hostility and superiority i believe (i believe now, not anyone else) rise directly from #1 pride and #2 hate.
billredeemed 2 years ago
Are you denying that humans have created thousands of gods over the millennia? This is Ingersoll's point.
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
I am not. Are you denying that Ingersoll was mainly attacking Christianity in this speach?
billredeemed 2 years ago
The first part of this speech takes aim at gods in general, and how they tend to possess the attributes (both good and bad) of the people who invent them. Jehovah is included among those other deities.
It is true that because he lived in a Christian country and was more familiar with the Bible than with other holy books, the bulk of his criticism was aimed at Christianity. I've no doubt that had he been born and raised in India, Hinduism would have been his focus.
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
"I've no doubt that had he been born and raised in India, Hinduism would have been his focus." This is your opinion and is quite unprovable.
billredeemed 2 years ago
Yes, but it's an educated opinion.
I've read everything that Robert Green Ingersoll wrote. (My prized possession is a first edition of his complete works, published in 1899.) While his focus was Christianity, he often spoke about, e.g., the "Hindoos" and the particulars of their faith. And he found their religion no more compelling than he did Christianity (less so, in fact).
What Ingersoll fought was ignorance and superstition, which he felt was perpetuated by all religions.
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
In a broader sense, he is attacking the hubris of human beings, who invent and worship gods that are little more than transparent manifestations of people's own flawed nature. (He inverts Pope's "an honest man is the noblest work of God" to good effect.)
It's worth noting that Ingersoll was an agnostic, not an atheist, and never denied the possibility of a Creator. What he objected to were the primitive, barbaric, and immoral deities that most human beings choose to worship.
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
@billredeemed
How do you still call yourself a Christian after watching R.G.I's Videos? Have you seen his other videos "The Mistakes Of Moses" Etc? You have to be DELUDED to continue to worship your BEAST of a Christian God....
ProducerQuotes 1 year ago
@ProducerQuotes ironic that you used the word 'deluded', i am sorry for you.
billredeemed 1 year ago
5* for it !
bowman2061 2 years ago
Something new on YouTube. I will sit down and enjoy it as a good meal.
bowman2061 2 years ago
Colonel Robert Green Ingersoll (August 11, 1833 July 21, 1899)
Answered godtards over a century ago. Didn't stop'em, did he?
PraiseShemp 2 years ago
Yep.
I was wondering on whether anyone unbenownst of the dates, will dub Ingersoll a 'new atheist',
Cafeeine 2 years ago
Ingersoll was a hero -- of the free mind.
PraiseShemp 2 years ago
Alas, he lived not only during the Golden Age of freethought, but its waning years. Fundamentalism was already on the rise within his lifetime.
His words still ring true, and would stop the arguments of contemporary apologists dead in their tracks.
smellincoffee 2 years ago