For those who don't have the money for the Spanish Riding school (as I didn't) look up Margaret Cabell Self, an excellent writer on horses in general and dressage in particular. Her books are available used. She explains what to do and how to get your horse to obey your commands. You may still want an instructor, but she will give you a good foundation.
@ukulelemike Does she also write in her book it takes more than ten years to train a horse like this? I have been to the Spanish Riding School and it takes years and years before these horses can do what they´re doing in a show. A book won´t help you with that.
I love how subtle the commands are, the rider doesn't even look like he have any signal at all...wow, to be able to ride at that level with a horse so well trained. It is something to aspire to.
No such thing as a posade. Maybe you mean pesade, which is done at a higher angle than levade. Levade is a newer manouver done with the hocks very flexed, the hocks are almost on the ground. There is a tendency to not perform the most extreme angles of levades immediately, they work up to that gradually.
I wish a lot of today's top 'modern' dressage riders would take advice from the Spanish Riding School. These guys KNOW what they're doing, and they're doing it right.
"The courbette is a movement where the horse balances on its hindlegs and jumps, keeping its forelegs off the ground, thus it "hops" on its hindlegs."
@rockytown111 "The courbette is a movement where the horse balances on its hindlegs and jumps, keeping its forelegs off the ground, thus it "hops" on its hindlegs."
somethingspecial14: You just think its the gayest form of riding cause you can't and will never be able to do it. I myself love jumping, but I appreciate a good dressage horse when I see one. I also know that we wouldn't be able to fly over jumps without a soild flat work training. You know what I don't even know why I posted this comment your probly some stupied kid who rides once a month and thinks they know everything there is to know about horses. Jerk!
Fleur, that's not at all true about the curb chain. It is not sadistic or torture, and it does not press on any nerves. There aren't any nerves there at all. Take a look at an anatomy book. The double bridle is just the traditional bridle for the highly trained horse.
i mean, in my opinion, if your training objects are hurting the horse, the horse will let you know. or at least, any horse i've ever trained or seen has.
Here you miss the moment of flight I firmly agree (I've done rather a lot of classical training) but that rider was actually asking for piaffe. He as asking for the pesade almost from the beginning with some half-halts to get the horse under himself and then waiting for the horse to find his balance and do it.
No, I´m serious. A real piaffe is supposed to be light, balanced and powerfull. A real piaffe got a flight moment, the right hind leg and left foreleg are still in the air while the horse changes. As an example, here you see that the horse keeps it´s legs on the ground while he changes. No flight moment at all. An uncorrect piaffe, unbalanced, stiff and stressed. To me absolutely the opposite of beautifull.
I didn't by any means say it was perfect, or even good for that matter, but correct as opposed to what you see in competitive dressage a horse behind the bit, on the forehand, and incapable of balancing back.
And last time I checked the Spanish Riding School whip trained the piaffe. The only really effective way to get a true piaffe in my experience is taking a horse from a playful gallop to a downward transition to the trot (which naturally becomes passage due to their playful mood) and then I ask for the piaffe, and reward the minute they give it. Thus the horse begins to associate piaffe with relaxation, fun, and good things (i.e. rewards, breaks, etc)
I teach the piaffe in the same way. The horse is eager to learn and is bursting out of pleasure. A whipped learned piaffe leads to nowhere, the horse needs to have fun while learning and practicing. it´s so simple, but there are people enough that don´t/won´t understand.
I agree on that. It´s extremely depressing what you see today on modern competition grounds. You think they ride GP with knowledge but it´s disgusting. Everyone goes too fast, 4 year olds at experienced levels, rollkur torture etc. Then yes, compared to that this is a perfect piaffe :(
Ohhh please not Anky!! I saw her a few times and once I puked. It was terrible, 20 to 30 minutes she pulled her horse down and after 15 minutes they made the chain thicker. If you try to tell the jury they just ignore you O_O Poor horses, if I would even thinking to do this to my horse she would buck me off.
I think she meant they made the curb chain thicker. I'm no Anky fan, but actually I would think that would make it LESS harsh, because it has a greater surface area.
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the chain BLOCKS and presses rigth on the nerves which go under the jaw and that is the third sadist-torture "tool" in dressage and furthermore in rollkur.... the MOST DISGUSTING EVER!!!
Ummm, in my training, I have learned that the curb applies pressure to the bit, which allows more pressure in the poll, encouraging the horse to come "on the bit" so to speak. the curb shouldn't be tight around the lower jaw. ALSO, the curb encourages lighter and lighter hands because less pressure is needed on the horses mouth. Like most training aids, it can be used correctly OR abusively.
It's a pesade. The horse is above 45 degrees (i.e. too high for a levade). In a levade the horse lowes so much the whithers should actually lower by about one hand, which it clearly doesn't do here. It's a very nice pesade, though :-)
he has no stirrups!! that takes talent and dedication!!
lovinganimals2011 5 months ago
For those who don't have the money for the Spanish Riding school (as I didn't) look up Margaret Cabell Self, an excellent writer on horses in general and dressage in particular. Her books are available used. She explains what to do and how to get your horse to obey your commands. You may still want an instructor, but she will give you a good foundation.
ukulelemike 6 months ago
@ukulelemike Does she also write in her book it takes more than ten years to train a horse like this? I have been to the Spanish Riding School and it takes years and years before these horses can do what they´re doing in a show. A book won´t help you with that.
Saartje05 4 months ago
WOW that horse was at a perfect degree with a person in saddle. Well done!
BerrySwingingJumper 6 months ago
Impressive! I find it most amazing that they don't use stirrups when doing a lavade...
imathunderclancat 9 months ago
@imathunderclancat Levade. Lavade sounds like doing the laundry...
Saartje05 4 months ago
wow that is...COOL!! haha beautiful horse too
dinosaurz456 9 months ago
I love how subtle the commands are, the rider doesn't even look like he have any signal at all...wow, to be able to ride at that level with a horse so well trained. It is something to aspire to.
Calicat1994 1 year ago
Are these Lipizzaners?
HerMajestyTheLlama 1 year ago
@HerMajestyTheLlama Yes they are
Emura100 1 year ago
@Emura100 aren't they gorgeous? =D
HerMajestyTheLlama 1 year ago
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talk about on the hindquarters.
xemilyx805 1 year ago
WOW!!!!!!!!!!! What a great team! That takes LOTS of trust on both ends!!!!
supersassyemily 1 year ago
I really want to train my horse to do this :L because he is from a top dressage horse and he has 3 nice paces and i really want to do it
crazy1coral 1 year ago
@crazy1coral Forget it, you need special horses, special trainers, special circumstances teaching a horse this. And a LOT of time.
Saartje05 4 months ago
I love the Levade, it shows true strength in a horse :)
meroko15701 1 year ago
This is my dream, to participate in the Spanish Riding School of Vienna. I am currently riding dressage and this is just beautiful.
KelkyMelky 1 year ago
what i would give to be as good as those guys...amazing, and the horse is juts wooow!
xtittletattlex1 2 years ago
No such thing as a posade. Maybe you mean pesade, which is done at a higher angle than levade. Levade is a newer manouver done with the hocks very flexed, the hocks are almost on the ground. There is a tendency to not perform the most extreme angles of levades immediately, they work up to that gradually.
pirouette987 2 years ago
Isn't this a posade?
VioletPaPa93 2 years ago
That is such a sweet little piaffe!!!!!
TrotCanterGallop 2 years ago
nice!
kikiza123 2 years ago
Omg thats so cool *-*
I live in Vienna but I've never been at the Spanish Riding School O.o
Kagome1404 2 years ago
que c'est beau !
licpegpon 2 years ago
omg look at his stallion neck thats impressive
ThudLuvsDressage 2 years ago
Woow, soo cool ! :D
LoveHorses555 2 years ago
how do you teach a horse to rear?????
thatperson195 2 years ago
beautiful!
SliferNorth 2 years ago
i think levade is much more graceful under saddle
XkazagirlX 2 years ago
Levade is something so pretty!
zanzkuli 2 years ago
I soooo love this kind of dressage. I wish more people would use this, instead of taking the shorter ways.
horsieylover 3 years ago
Thats fantastic. Love the levade! xx
HorsePsycho 3 years ago
True dressage!
Onaziz 3 years ago 3
very beautiful movements
candygurlxx 3 years ago
lipizaner
skatermike5 3 years ago
I wish a lot of today's top 'modern' dressage riders would take advice from the Spanish Riding School. These guys KNOW what they're doing, and they're doing it right.
TheAppleCiderBrigade 3 years ago 21
Okay someone please help
what is a courbette ??
rockytown111 3 years ago
"The courbette is a movement where the horse balances on its hindlegs and jumps, keeping its forelegs off the ground, thus it "hops" on its hindlegs."
SkiesFirePaved 3 years ago
Thanks SkiesFirePaved.
I think I may have seen one aswell.
rockytown111 3 years ago
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@rockytown111 "The courbette is a movement where the horse balances on its hindlegs and jumps, keeping its forelegs off the ground, thus it "hops" on its hindlegs."
xxjocieridesxx 4 months ago
My horse Cinnabar can piaffe and levade, but he almost tipped backwards when we tried courbette :|
IchigoDancerNyan 3 years ago
courbette is too serious element and DEMANDS very well physically trained back for horse to do that! Otherwise you will make only harm...
fleur4198 3 years ago 3
somethingspecial14: You just think its the gayest form of riding cause you can't and will never be able to do it. I myself love jumping, but I appreciate a good dressage horse when I see one. I also know that we wouldn't be able to fly over jumps without a soild flat work training. You know what I don't even know why I posted this comment your probly some stupied kid who rides once a month and thinks they know everything there is to know about horses. Jerk!
JumpingitswhatIdo 3 years ago 6
awsome!! my horse can do the piaffe!!!=)
arabgirl95 3 years ago 2
i just taught my horse how to piaffe, levade AND capriole! I am SO thrilled! :D
LostInHisBlueEyes 3 years ago
Awesome!
eventer88 4 years ago 2
Fleur, that's not at all true about the curb chain. It is not sadistic or torture, and it does not press on any nerves. There aren't any nerves there at all. Take a look at an anatomy book. The double bridle is just the traditional bridle for the highly trained horse.
pirouette987 4 years ago
dont u just love people?
i mean, in my opinion, if your training objects are hurting the horse, the horse will let you know. or at least, any horse i've ever trained or seen has.
showjumpinluv 3 years ago
do you know why they use a full bridle? Or as we say, a bit and bradoon?
traviswlaura 3 years ago
simple as everywhere... because it's a "tradition" and they don't have and know another way.....
fleur4198 3 years ago
That was cool ;D
LordisNaughtyGirl 4 years ago
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gayest form of riding
somethingspecial14 4 years ago
you idiot...im sure youve never had the pleasure of meeting a horse with such power and collection, and you probably never will.
jennifert1 4 years ago 16
and who r u to say that ey?
LifeisMint 3 years ago
@somethingspecial14 twat
HorseySlipknotLover 2 months ago
What an awfull piaff!!! You would expect more from the Spanish school...
Sky212 4 years ago
Are you kidding? That is a real piaffe... the kind where the horse is actually in selfcarriage.
ima1trkpny 4 years ago
And the point wasn't to get a perfect piaffe, it was to balance and prepare for the pesade.
ima1trkpny 4 years ago
Well... what is the whole point of the paiffe then? A good tip for you, Steinbrecht and Podhajsky.
Sky212 4 years ago
Here you miss the moment of flight I firmly agree (I've done rather a lot of classical training) but that rider was actually asking for piaffe. He as asking for the pesade almost from the beginning with some half-halts to get the horse under himself and then waiting for the horse to find his balance and do it.
ima1trkpny 4 years ago
No, I´m serious. A real piaffe is supposed to be light, balanced and powerfull. A real piaffe got a flight moment, the right hind leg and left foreleg are still in the air while the horse changes. As an example, here you see that the horse keeps it´s legs on the ground while he changes. No flight moment at all. An uncorrect piaffe, unbalanced, stiff and stressed. To me absolutely the opposite of beautifull.
Sky212 4 years ago
I didn't by any means say it was perfect, or even good for that matter, but correct as opposed to what you see in competitive dressage a horse behind the bit, on the forehand, and incapable of balancing back.
ima1trkpny 4 years ago
And last time I checked the Spanish Riding School whip trained the piaffe. The only really effective way to get a true piaffe in my experience is taking a horse from a playful gallop to a downward transition to the trot (which naturally becomes passage due to their playful mood) and then I ask for the piaffe, and reward the minute they give it. Thus the horse begins to associate piaffe with relaxation, fun, and good things (i.e. rewards, breaks, etc)
ima1trkpny 4 years ago
I teach the piaffe in the same way. The horse is eager to learn and is bursting out of pleasure. A whipped learned piaffe leads to nowhere, the horse needs to have fun while learning and practicing. it´s so simple, but there are people enough that don´t/won´t understand.
Sky212 4 years ago 3
I agree on that. It´s extremely depressing what you see today on modern competition grounds. You think they ride GP with knowledge but it´s disgusting. Everyone goes too fast, 4 year olds at experienced levels, rollkur torture etc. Then yes, compared to that this is a perfect piaffe :(
Sky212 4 years ago 5
Amen... where have you been on our Anky debates? :P
ima1trkpny 4 years ago
Ohhh please not Anky!! I saw her a few times and once I puked. It was terrible, 20 to 30 minutes she pulled her horse down and after 15 minutes they made the chain thicker. If you try to tell the jury they just ignore you O_O Poor horses, if I would even thinking to do this to my horse she would buck me off.
Sky212 4 years ago 4
Yeah, I meant why weren't you joining in on the WEG2006 comment section? LOL... yes, I rather dislike the woman.
ima1trkpny 4 years ago
Sky212- What do you mean by making the chain thicker? Like what does that do to the horse?
IdinaGrl101 4 years ago
I think she meant they made the curb chain thicker. I'm no Anky fan, but actually I would think that would make it LESS harsh, because it has a greater surface area.
Eventer13 4 years ago
Ya, your right... well whatever Anky did, it was horrible! :(
IdinaGrl101 4 years ago
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the chain BLOCKS and presses rigth on the nerves which go under the jaw and that is the third sadist-torture "tool" in dressage and furthermore in rollkur.... the MOST DISGUSTING EVER!!!
fleur4198 4 years ago
Ummm, in my training, I have learned that the curb applies pressure to the bit, which allows more pressure in the poll, encouraging the horse to come "on the bit" so to speak. the curb shouldn't be tight around the lower jaw. ALSO, the curb encourages lighter and lighter hands because less pressure is needed on the horses mouth. Like most training aids, it can be used correctly OR abusively.
justiceisblonde 3 years ago
@Sky212 you can talk like that when you post a video of you doing a 'perfect' Piaffe until then don't critisize what is beyond perfect
HorseySlipknotLover 2 months ago
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I know! It was way too fast and jerky. And he barely lifted his feet. But the levade WAS beautiful. :)
rideshorse05 3 years ago
It's a pesade. The horse is above 45 degrees (i.e. too high for a levade). In a levade the horse lowes so much the whithers should actually lower by about one hand, which it clearly doesn't do here. It's a very nice pesade, though :-)
equitimer 4 years ago
Since the SRS only do levade and no pesade and it is high enough to classify as a levade, it is a levade ;)
saxhanda 4 years ago
It is Pesade... in Levade the horse actually "gets smaller" and you see the hind legs go directly under the saddle/surcingle
EmpressIllyria 4 years ago
looks more like a pesade but the horse looks great :)
SuffocatingInDespair 5 years ago