Osu, I train in a derivitave of Kyokushin/Seido juku Karate........anyone who knows anything about Karate knows that Kanazawa shihan is one of the greats!! If have little or no experience in tradiotional style Karate then maybe you should keep your mouths shut.....OSU!!
It seems like karate people are LARPers who get together to play make-believe with one another. None of these drills factor in a person's involuntary reaction to move away from a strike. So, assuming that any of these horse-shit techniques delivered an opportunity to land the first blow, the guy would no longer be there to receive the second. But drill after drill trains the practicioners to fight as if their opponents were sand filled practice dummies. What a waste of time and money.
@knightofrock1908 Sorry. I studied karate for 4 years, and took 3rd in the AAU nationals as a teenager. My contempt for traditional Martial Arts is grounded in quite a bit of experience. These people really are wasting their time.
Well that shows that you have wasted 4 years of your life without learning shit. Traditional martial arts were born from of a need decades and hundreds of years ago. That to defend oneself in the face of danger and have been proven to be efficient over and over again.Some see the arts as a sport and nothing more(like you) and some as a way of life.
I would expect that one with 4 years experience would know that is the fighter who wins not the style(be it modern or traditional).
@BobTheBuilder378 I always wonder why there are people who criticize the martial arts for my response is that they wanted to practice the same and never came to nothing, poor people in life and soul. They are only losers.
@BobTheBuilder378 I train in Shotokan and have done for years. I also know what really works in the street, escape, pre-emptive striking/distractions etc empirically speaking. (So do many of my fellow students). But trust me, a good karate school in time can give you very powerful techniques and focus for these situations. It's a shame that there are many McDojos out there, and amateur and even black belts who wouldn't stand a chance in a real situation.
@BobTheBuilder378 There are other workouts that let the karateka practice and sharpen their reflexes. In a real situation, your movemens will be automatic and preemptive and lethal where the opponent won't even have time to blink! And it is all accomplished through these countless repetitions where you train your muscles to act and react instinctively. What shown here are the basic steps!
how can a 2nd Dan not understand the function of the simple and abstract kihon-ippon-kumite in the martial system's method? what kind of 2nd Dan is this?
@namorfilus reality is timing u can use only one straight punch and win all opponents:)and u can know all karate and judo and be helpless in real fight:)
@namorfilus fedor uses no kicks even if he does thats not his weapon.crocop used i9ndeed good mawasi geris but as he has weak grouund game he has serious difficulty in fighting ufc.
To Superlee, for a start... its a shame if you felt it was too easy to get to black belt, I can only presume you were not ready but were made to believe so. And secondly, Karate doesn't start with a white belt, it begins at Black belt, that is when the real training kicks in, the basics need to be deciphered first.
Why are so many aggressive people out there bothered about which style is good for fighting?
For 99.99% of students of Shotokan karate, it is a martial art. That is, it's a discipline that places demands on one's physical development and mental perserverance.
If your main concern is coming out on top in street brawl, I suggest that Shotokan is not for you. Not because it doesn't provide the tools - it does - but because that's not the appropriate attitude.
Tapiola2007, you put in words in a perfect way what I was trying to explain to some people on youtube, but was not able to explain it in a way as good as you just did. I agree 100% percent with every word!!!
However, the words aren't really mine: they are a condensation of the lessons I've learned from every good sensei I've been fortunate enough to be taught by.
Without wanting to sound too clichéd, there are no bad students, only bad teachers, and I fear that a lot of the negative comments made on YouTube come from people who had/have bad teachers, in whatever discipline they have chosen to study.
@Tapiola2007 can you tell me as you see jodan atack..what kind of idiot will atack you on street such this step and punch.nobody will atak you like this this is all fake..
@bushidoartss Where is it suggested that these attacks are meant to represent real life situations? It's incrediby tedious having to explain why Shotokan karateka practise kumite drills such as these. You're the one imposing "real life" attacks on dojo training scenarios. If you don't appreciate it or understand, simply do something else.
@bushidoartss Ignorance is still ignorance, regardless of the grade! Moreover, you're rude and disrespectful. I'm glad I don't have to train with you.
@Tapiola2007 i hope you will never try to protect your self..do not think you know martial arts..kanazawa and all shotokan monkeys has no idea what is self defance//but still they teaching karate because some stupid people as you lazy ass who does not want to try real arts..they use you selling belts dans for money..haha you all shotokan good dancer
@bushidoartss As I said, you're rude and disrespectful and can only express yourself with anger. I feel sorry for you if you think you understand martial arts with this attitude.
@bushidoartss you're 2nd Dan in Karate Shotokan? have trained during many years, more than thousand hours, something that is a "bullshit" for you? and now thinks that the references of Karate Shotokan are weak like your non-martial Karate Shotokan? come on dude, stop polluting the page...
If we teach to a child: 1+1=2, the child will say: in real life it doesn't work, beacause all prices into the supermarket are not 1 dollar... Yes but it's to LEARN BASICS, and when you have strongly learned many basics you can evaluate a 3 for 2 offer of sets of 12 apples that costs 8 dollars each... The same I think is for (every) martial art, and a real fight.
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karate is weak their mind preparation is also weak and all karte moments ar just onsided way to fight!if you dont belive then if within 3 month one who is very strong in mind and body would learn karate he would win all those masters who ave stuided it 20 years and more!why`?its because like in boxing in karte wins man who is just stronger in body not who has stuied it more!
leo muchos comentarios en contra y burla contra el Karate especialmente estilo shotokan, esas persona solo tengo que decirles que si no les gusta el karate por ultimo no miren los videos nadie los obliga
Ah man; after being out of Karate for at least a year, it's good to get a refresher on Kumite from watching Kanazawa. My sensei (when I first took Karate up in College) recommended a few of his kata vids so that we could reference them for later.
Going to be getting back into it this semester; hopefully I'm not too rusty.
In my oppinion anyone practicing shotokan karate and needs some visual help other then there sensei I would suggest Kanazawa. He seems to be the best Master that I can find on the internet , I ve heard lots about him and seen many of his videos and he seems an all rounded practitioner. Good luck in your journey... (oss)
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i was in a seminary with him last year,and even with more than seventy years,he's incredible.He knows a lot,and knows how to teach,and loves what he does.
And a good shotokan fighter is a terrible opponent,can endure a lot of pain,and even if he just hits once,it will be painfully precise and hard
For those of you who think only of street fighting, you will never get the big picture. It would be better if you ignored traditional karate and just went out and did your thing. It is not within your mental capacity to see the benefits. We don't care about beating people up in street fights. We avoid those and try to pursue higher aims.
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agreed but besides if you would study just kata or ballett form of karate i agree that would be great show but if you need to protect someone this karate is very little help if you meet an experienced streetfighter.
In the old days...kata was used as a reference guide or text book so to speak...and was where practitioners got their techniques which they practiced with a partner. ( See Ryu Kyu Kempo ). Kata was not performed to look pretty. Within the katas were basics, grappling and nerve strikes..but this was not taught to the Japanese in those days by the Okinawans. Now this information is avaible.
anything if one is not experienced streetfighter but when one grabs you better run!or if there are several opponents boxers no karate helps because in karate there are no hands that works on boxer any good boxer could knock off any karate man because that.
And in all of your 27 years of life, you are an expert? When Kanazawa competed, there were many knockouts in those days....what you see on this video is not how he competed.
may point was is and will be that the karate itself is very limited onsided martial art system and it just happened that kanzawa practised onesided robust system of fighting.if other man is also karate man he can handle that otherwise he would be in trouble.
okei lets try this-he has quite a slow yoko-geri and his mawashi geri is just too slow to be excellent karate master.but he has quite a good attention and good timing.within his own style he can be quite a good.but those robot-like things a repeats over and over are just comedy in real fight situation.
This man is now in his mid to late seventies. This video was taken when he was probably in his fifties, long after his prime, so it is best not to judge his abilities. Also he demonstrates in slow motion. I saw him in his prime when he was in his very early 30's and his movements were quite fast. Here he demonstrates very basic exercises slowly as a form of teaching for beginners. These movements are not for practical application but rather for learning basics only. I hope this helps.
It is just one of the areas of karate that is practiced. When Kanazawa was training for competition, they trained 6 hours a day , 6 days a week and a great deal of that time was fighting and I don't mean point fighting...as they would literally knock each other around the room and used many sweaps and take downs. Later when he was just training and teaching, it was 3 hours a day , 6 days a week. He would have held his own against any of todays MMA hot shots...Any!
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he is not greatest much greater were funakoshi of course:)beside his stances and punches are not done very correctly.that is fact.but for my oponion the correctness is not even aim:)so relax:)
of course if you are top master in karate u are good fighter anyway but can man with small size in karate fight with good boxer who is twice heavier? no he cant because karate wouldnt work but small man can use things that is not taught in karate and even win the fight:)
I've seen plenty of 1 hit KO's in Karate. And yes, there are strikes to the eyes and throat but also to the leg, knees, ribs, diaphragm. I've winded a guy with one strike and he fell to his knees. Posting on youtube saying "Karate can't do this or that" means nothing, especially since you don't really seem to know what Karate is about.
the weakest point in karate is no good punches with hand.this stright punch which is used in evry karateka is just joke against boxer.second in mma no karateka was good.thas also point.
the punches are so cleary not working in real situation beside they havent the power boxers in their punches.see this video can u fight with all those moments!no9!
If you do not do Karate, how can you know they don't work? As I've already stated, seen plenty of 1 hit KO's. Now you're just being an ignoramus.
The title of this video is KIHON IPPON KUMITE. It's Basic One Step Sparring. You do not do karate, you do not understand what it means. Go back to your boxing and leave us to discuss the finer points of our art.
i can do anything seen in this video and all basic karate satff but it just one form of ballett not more good if u opponent is beginner and dosent move at all!but bad to use in real fight! if u examine this video closly u can see how his mawashi geri is not fine.neither is good yoko geri.
Sorry you're wrong about mma : Lyoto Machida is classified nr 2 in April 2009 MMA rankings in lightheavyweight, and his skills come mostly from Shotokan Karate, (which he added some grappling skills of course) and he is claiming it. He just use all the techniques (like elbow strikes and knee, that are usually forbidden in Shotokan matches) and he's got the style of, "I go if I am sure to hit" like most of the Shotokan karate practicionners : timing, distance and focus.
he is good fighter so no matter from were he comes!what matters is unique fighting skills!and as i am said shotokan is too limited to be best so he uses anything!
Every martial arts or fighting sports are too limited to be the best, every of its does have weak points and strong points. Jiu-jitsu also has weak points, kick-boxing too, and so on... That's why the fighters in MMA are using the best points of a great variety of martial arts, and so does Machida, when he claims :"If you think Shotokan fighters can't knock a man out, you better watch yourself" (in "Fight" Magazine, april 2009)
You raise an interesting point. I am a practitioner of Shotokan Karatejutsu, so let me say that it isn't Shotokan that is limited, it is the travesty of "sport Karate" that is limited. As a Martial Art, specifically a combative one, Shotokan has the same arsenal as all other martial arts, be it grappling, striking, mental, but the rigid rules within "sport" Karate-DO, has limited it down front punch, reverse punch, ect ect....with those constraints, no art could be effective.
i am studied it several years and seen all the best and all limitid points there.its certan that karate himself is too raw and onsided to be really effective at all!tahts difficult to accept but thats fact!
@SimonneBTBAM machida is just ckbecause he has trained in differnet styles and has a great physical abilites.master of bbj also:)and his father teach him different way of karate not traditional one.
bullshit, Lyoto Machida's MMA style fights have as much to do with traditional Shotokan Karate as Real food has to do with Mc DOnald's...you're a typical 'classical mess' fantasist, as mentioned by Bruce Lee..carry on dreaming fool
Type in 'Shotokan JKA Kumite' in Youtube and take a look. These fighters are not using full power and speed, and are limited by rules.
I would agree if you pitted a professional boxer against an experienced karate-ka and limited the karate-ka to using punches only, the professional boxer would most likely come out on top. Allow the karate-ka to use kicks, punches etc and it could be a different story.
in close examination the main thing they use is zuki.against boxer this would be suicide!mawashi geri is difficult to use if one is not open like good boxer alwayes is.those things works within their own style thats main point:)
Exactly in the sporting context boxing works against boxers, karate against karate-ka because of the rules that are applied. Boxers tend to slug it out toe to toe, whereas a karate-ka would not try and do this, rather they would look for an opening and attack it for a one strike finish, strictly in the sporting context, otherwise karate is about defending and countering. My own experience is with karate, jujitsu & some boxing and I believe you can learn something from all the fighting arts.
Don't forget that boxers are train to fight with 16oz gloves while the karateka is train to fight with bare knuckles. This may seem trival but gloves make all the difference. The tacticts that a karateka uses are nulified if he fought the boxer in a ring with 16oz gloves but on the open mat with the small coton type gloves use by karate fighters, the boxer has no chance in hell to win.
I'm glad to hear someone make that point. Boxers actually use the gloves to deflect punches. Karate does not work with boxing gloves. Take the gloves off, and that's a different story. Oss
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bollocks, look it up on youtube, there are several skilled karateka sparring with amateur boxers and guess what..the boxers kick their asses..knocking most of the idiots out...you talk when you have no fight experience or eye for reality...
I've been training in boxing and karate for several years and I can say both work with proper training. In fact, some of the worst beatings I've taken came courtesy of my karate friends...of course boxing is an excellent sport, but you can't compare a professional boxer with an average joe practicing karate three times a week. On the other hand, people like the JKA senseis are tough as nails fighters that can easily hold their own in real fighting...
they are very good in their style but in mixed martial art they are just beginners.karate itself is too onsided to use in real fight with experienced opponent!
His fluid, demonstration-slow techniques are misleading to the eye. He can strike with 2000+ pounds of force per square inch. I saw him put his fist through a square chunk of wood beam. To me, his character is even more impressive.
I used to live in what would i guess be called in america, the "gangster" part of Manilla, Philippines. Living in that area was very rough, violence is everywhere, and I know from experience that karate can be used efficiently in a fight, its very scary to be confronted but overcoming that fear is part of karate, and when you just use what you have been taught and obtain those instincts through what you have been taught, you will ultimately be victorious in battle.
An excellent video of basic technique. Too many "modern" karateka think kihon ippon kumite is a waste of time and impractical. What they don't realise is that this basic training is used to develop technique, timing and all the other parts essential to become a proficient karateka. And, to pre-empt any other responses, the techniques are not meant to be for on the street self defence.
Osu, I train in a derivitave of Kyokushin/Seido juku Karate........anyone who knows anything about Karate knows that Kanazawa shihan is one of the greats!! If have little or no experience in tradiotional style Karate then maybe you should keep your mouths shut.....OSU!!
gc33 1 day ago
Merci ça va me servir :)
Alinette007 5 days ago
today is my test to advance to purple belt and ive decided to use the move at 2:42
theclash181 5 months ago
It seems like karate people are LARPers who get together to play make-believe with one another. None of these drills factor in a person's involuntary reaction to move away from a strike. So, assuming that any of these horse-shit techniques delivered an opportunity to land the first blow, the guy would no longer be there to receive the second. But drill after drill trains the practicioners to fight as if their opponents were sand filled practice dummies. What a waste of time and money.
BobTheBuilder378 8 months ago
@BobTheBuilder378 man judging how rude you are you don'ttake any martial art and is clearly jealous of thse who do, its sad i feel sorry for you :).
knightofrock1908 8 months ago
@knightofrock1908 Sorry. I studied karate for 4 years, and took 3rd in the AAU nationals as a teenager. My contempt for traditional Martial Arts is grounded in quite a bit of experience. These people really are wasting their time.
BobTheBuilder378 8 months ago
Well that shows that you have wasted 4 years of your life without learning shit. Traditional martial arts were born from of a need decades and hundreds of years ago. That to defend oneself in the face of danger and have been proven to be efficient over and over again.Some see the arts as a sport and nothing more(like you) and some as a way of life.
I would expect that one with 4 years experience would know that is the fighter who wins not the style(be it modern or traditional).
lidaranis 6 months ago
@BobTheBuilder378 I always wonder why there are people who criticize the martial arts for my response is that they wanted to practice the same and never came to nothing, poor people in life and soul. They are only losers.
dvdmillenium 5 months ago
@BobTheBuilder378 I train in Shotokan and have done for years. I also know what really works in the street, escape, pre-emptive striking/distractions etc empirically speaking. (So do many of my fellow students). But trust me, a good karate school in time can give you very powerful techniques and focus for these situations. It's a shame that there are many McDojos out there, and amateur and even black belts who wouldn't stand a chance in a real situation.
KaratekaDan 3 months ago 2
@KaratekaDan Wise words Lord.
dvdmillenium 3 months ago
@BobTheBuilder378 There are other workouts that let the karateka practice and sharpen their reflexes. In a real situation, your movemens will be automatic and preemptive and lethal where the opponent won't even have time to blink! And it is all accomplished through these countless repetitions where you train your muscles to act and react instinctively. What shown here are the basic steps!
bentamba 2 months ago
is this from his dvd series?
ragingryan256 10 months ago
with stile is'it ? it'is like shotokan beecuse the pepule stend low
michal19911000 1 year ago
@namorfilus the striking of his Sambo comes from Kickboxing, which combines Boxing, Karate and Muay Thai.
sanhaua 1 year ago
how can a 2nd Dan not understand the function of the simple and abstract kihon-ippon-kumite in the martial system's method? what kind of 2nd Dan is this?
sanhaua 1 year ago
@namorfilus Fedor trains Kickboxing, not Muay Thai.
sanhaua 1 year ago
Bushidoartss is obviously not a martial artist. That, or he's a really bad one.
mmking9999 1 year ago
bulshit fake
bushidoartss 1 year ago
@namorfilus fedor used no karate mavashe gery he used muay thai round kick which very powerfull..
bushidoartss 1 year ago
@namorfilus reality is timing u can use only one straight punch and win all opponents:)and u can know all karate and judo and be helpless in real fight:)
supralee 1 year ago
@namorfilus he didnt use it as knock out kick and u know that seldom anybody use that in that way.
supralee 1 year ago
@namorfilus fedor uses no kicks even if he does thats not his weapon.crocop used i9ndeed good mawasi geris but as he has weak grouund game he has serious difficulty in fighting ufc.
supralee 1 year ago
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@supralee fedor used no karate mavashe gery he used muay thai round kick which very powerfull..
bushidoartss 1 year ago
This is great stuff! I really needed this... I couldn't remember some of the techniques.
LiliQ0111 1 year ago
Awesome.... i studing
akira7891 1 year ago
To Superlee, for a start... its a shame if you felt it was too easy to get to black belt, I can only presume you were not ready but were made to believe so. And secondly, Karate doesn't start with a white belt, it begins at Black belt, that is when the real training kicks in, the basics need to be deciphered first.
kookido 2 years ago
Why are so many aggressive people out there bothered about which style is good for fighting?
For 99.99% of students of Shotokan karate, it is a martial art. That is, it's a discipline that places demands on one's physical development and mental perserverance.
If your main concern is coming out on top in street brawl, I suggest that Shotokan is not for you. Not because it doesn't provide the tools - it does - but because that's not the appropriate attitude.
Tapiola2007 2 years ago 39
Tapiola2007, you put in words in a perfect way what I was trying to explain to some people on youtube, but was not able to explain it in a way as good as you just did. I agree 100% percent with every word!!!
PanicusVulgaris 2 years ago
Hello, thanks for the comment.
However, the words aren't really mine: they are a condensation of the lessons I've learned from every good sensei I've been fortunate enough to be taught by.
Without wanting to sound too clichéd, there are no bad students, only bad teachers, and I fear that a lot of the negative comments made on YouTube come from people who had/have bad teachers, in whatever discipline they have chosen to study.
Tapiola2007 2 years ago
@Tapiola2007 can you tell me as you see jodan atack..what kind of idiot will atack you on street such this step and punch.nobody will atak you like this this is all fake..
bushidoartss 1 year ago
@bushidoartss Where is it suggested that these attacks are meant to represent real life situations? It's incrediby tedious having to explain why Shotokan karateka practise kumite drills such as these. You're the one imposing "real life" attacks on dojo training scenarios. If you don't appreciate it or understand, simply do something else.
Tapiola2007 1 year ago
@Tapiola2007 no doubt shotokan bulshit..i am 2 dan..i know what i am talking about
bushidoartss 1 year ago
@bushidoartss Ignorance is still ignorance, regardless of the grade! Moreover, you're rude and disrespectful. I'm glad I don't have to train with you.
Tapiola2007 1 year ago
@Tapiola2007 i hope you will never try to protect your self..do not think you know martial arts..kanazawa and all shotokan monkeys has no idea what is self defance//but still they teaching karate because some stupid people as you lazy ass who does not want to try real arts..they use you selling belts dans for money..haha you all shotokan good dancer
bushidoartss 1 year ago
@bushidoartss As I said, you're rude and disrespectful and can only express yourself with anger. I feel sorry for you if you think you understand martial arts with this attitude.
Tapiola2007 1 year ago
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sanhaua 1 year ago
@bushidoartss you're 2nd Dan in Karate Shotokan? have trained during many years, more than thousand hours, something that is a "bullshit" for you? and now thinks that the references of Karate Shotokan are weak like your non-martial Karate Shotokan? come on dude, stop polluting the page...
sanhaua 1 year ago
If we teach to a child: 1+1=2, the child will say: in real life it doesn't work, beacause all prices into the supermarket are not 1 dollar... Yes but it's to LEARN BASICS, and when you have strongly learned many basics you can evaluate a 3 for 2 offer of sets of 12 apples that costs 8 dollars each... The same I think is for (every) martial art, and a real fight.
BradipoNinja 2 years ago 4
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do you block like this!fun indeed, or even do they block like this in real fight!no!because it dosent work!
supralee 2 years ago
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ZeroNuke 2 years ago
in shotokan to have black belt is quite easy :)
supralee 2 years ago
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karate is weak their mind preparation is also weak and all karte moments ar just onsided way to fight!if you dont belive then if within 3 month one who is very strong in mind and body would learn karate he would win all those masters who ave stuided it 20 years and more!why`?its because like in boxing in karte wins man who is just stronger in body not who has stuied it more!
supralee 2 years ago
Shotokan Karate > Boxing
End of argument.
TheKyuubiUnleashed 2 years ago
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ZeroNuke 2 years ago
leo muchos comentarios en contra y burla contra el Karate especialmente estilo shotokan, esas persona solo tengo que decirles que si no les gusta el karate por ultimo no miren los videos nadie los obliga
pasico25 2 years ago
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what a crap..this ippon /gohon kumite is just a shit!
acerwk 2 years ago
I need help... Does anyone know the name of the technique in the neck (like cross shuto uchi) that follow gedan juji uke against mae geri ...
Thanks
Ajtiv13 2 years ago
well done!!very good even though I find it a little too static
bunkai23 3 years ago
No good!
acerwk 3 years ago
Ah man; after being out of Karate for at least a year, it's good to get a refresher on Kumite from watching Kanazawa. My sensei (when I first took Karate up in College) recommended a few of his kata vids so that we could reference them for later.
Going to be getting back into it this semester; hopefully I'm not too rusty.
Ihonmatar 3 years ago
In my oppinion anyone practicing shotokan karate and needs some visual help other then there sensei I would suggest Kanazawa. He seems to be the best Master that I can find on the internet , I ve heard lots about him and seen many of his videos and he seems an all rounded practitioner. Good luck in your journey... (oss)
nintai66 3 years ago
1977 he was 46 at the time.
Billiam680 3 years ago
He is da best how dare u
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mountainash 3 years ago
i was in a seminary with him last year,and even with more than seventy years,he's incredible.He knows a lot,and knows how to teach,and loves what he does.
And a good shotokan fighter is a terrible opponent,can endure a lot of pain,and even if he just hits once,it will be painfully precise and hard
RaegenhereBjartmar 3 years ago 2
For those of you who think only of street fighting, you will never get the big picture. It would be better if you ignored traditional karate and just went out and did your thing. It is not within your mental capacity to see the benefits. We don't care about beating people up in street fights. We avoid those and try to pursue higher aims.
Shinkyu42 3 years ago 6
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agreed but besides if you would study just kata or ballett form of karate i agree that would be great show but if you need to protect someone this karate is very little help if you meet an experienced streetfighter.
supralee 3 years ago
In the old days...kata was used as a reference guide or text book so to speak...and was where practitioners got their techniques which they practiced with a partner. ( See Ryu Kyu Kempo ). Kata was not performed to look pretty. Within the katas were basics, grappling and nerve strikes..but this was not taught to the Japanese in those days by the Okinawans. Now this information is avaible.
Shinkyu42 3 years ago
If you would like to see very fast and practical shotokan, search for videos of Frank Brennan, Michael Milon, or Vince Morris.
Shinkyu42 3 years ago
These clips are probably 20 years old or more...
Ronin6575 3 years ago
anything if one is not experienced streetfighter but when one grabs you better run!or if there are several opponents boxers no karate helps because in karate there are no hands that works on boxer any good boxer could knock off any karate man because that.
supralee 3 years ago
And in all of your 27 years of life, you are an expert? When Kanazawa competed, there were many knockouts in those days....what you see on this video is not how he competed.
Ronin6575 3 years ago
may point was is and will be that the karate itself is very limited onsided martial art system and it just happened that kanzawa practised onesided robust system of fighting.if other man is also karate man he can handle that otherwise he would be in trouble.
supralee 3 years ago
We could debate this until our faces turn blue but we won't convince each other of anything!
Ronin6575 3 years ago
okei lets try this-he has quite a slow yoko-geri and his mawashi geri is just too slow to be excellent karate master.but he has quite a good attention and good timing.within his own style he can be quite a good.but those robot-like things a repeats over and over are just comedy in real fight situation.
supralee 3 years ago
This man is now in his mid to late seventies. This video was taken when he was probably in his fifties, long after his prime, so it is best not to judge his abilities. Also he demonstrates in slow motion. I saw him in his prime when he was in his very early 30's and his movements were quite fast. Here he demonstrates very basic exercises slowly as a form of teaching for beginners. These movements are not for practical application but rather for learning basics only. I hope this helps.
Shinkyu42 3 years ago
shortly it is just old fashioned practise of kata.very little would this help to be good fighter.
supralee 3 years ago
It is just one of the areas of karate that is practiced. When Kanazawa was training for competition, they trained 6 hours a day , 6 days a week and a great deal of that time was fighting and I don't mean point fighting...as they would literally knock each other around the room and used many sweaps and take downs. Later when he was just training and teaching, it was 3 hours a day , 6 days a week. He would have held his own against any of todays MMA hot shots...Any!
Shinkyu42 3 years ago 2
God you are soo full of shit. How dare you insult the greatest Shotokan practitioner of all time!!
redsunkarate 3 years ago
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he is not greatest much greater were funakoshi of course:)beside his stances and punches are not done very correctly.that is fact.but for my oponion the correctness is not even aim:)so relax:)
supralee 3 years ago
Karate is not limited. I got in to a fight with a guy who did Taekwondo and Wing Chun and defended everything he could throw at me.
Style is not important, only how you train and apply it.
Woolfrey 2 years ago 3
of course if you are top master in karate u are good fighter anyway but can man with small size in karate fight with good boxer who is twice heavier? no he cant because karate wouldnt work but small man can use things that is not taught in karate and even win the fight:)
supralee 2 years ago
Can a small man in boxing beat a good Karateka who is twice as heavy?
Karate is not limited to a punch and kick, there's plenty of deadly moves one can use if one is willing to practice them.
Woolfrey 2 years ago 3
good humour:)their deadly things are just strike to eyes or throut and so on that is hardly done to boxer who are not open!
supralee 2 years ago
In boxer ring- no. In the real fight- yes
Jeano777 2 years ago 3
good!then do u see any good punch which karate man can use against boxer!
supralee 2 years ago
I've seen plenty of 1 hit KO's in Karate. And yes, there are strikes to the eyes and throat but also to the leg, knees, ribs, diaphragm. I've winded a guy with one strike and he fell to his knees. Posting on youtube saying "Karate can't do this or that" means nothing, especially since you don't really seem to know what Karate is about.
Woolfrey 2 years ago 2
the weakest point in karate is no good punches with hand.this stright punch which is used in evry karateka is just joke against boxer.second in mma no karateka was good.thas also point.
supralee 2 years ago
lol clearly you've never done Karate enough to know how hard they punch.
Woolfrey 2 years ago
the punches are so cleary not working in real situation beside they havent the power boxers in their punches.see this video can u fight with all those moments!no9!
supralee 2 years ago
If you do not do Karate, how can you know they don't work? As I've already stated, seen plenty of 1 hit KO's. Now you're just being an ignoramus.
The title of this video is KIHON IPPON KUMITE. It's Basic One Step Sparring. You do not do karate, you do not understand what it means. Go back to your boxing and leave us to discuss the finer points of our art.
Woolfrey 2 years ago 2
i can do anything seen in this video and all basic karate satff but it just one form of ballett not more good if u opponent is beginner and dosent move at all!but bad to use in real fight! if u examine this video closly u can see how his mawashi geri is not fine.neither is good yoko geri.
supralee 2 years ago
Sorry you're wrong about mma : Lyoto Machida is classified nr 2 in April 2009 MMA rankings in lightheavyweight, and his skills come mostly from Shotokan Karate, (which he added some grappling skills of course) and he is claiming it. He just use all the techniques (like elbow strikes and knee, that are usually forbidden in Shotokan matches) and he's got the style of, "I go if I am sure to hit" like most of the Shotokan karate practicionners : timing, distance and focus.
Ry0Narushima 2 years ago 2
he is good fighter so no matter from were he comes!what matters is unique fighting skills!and as i am said shotokan is too limited to be best so he uses anything!
supralee 2 years ago
Every martial arts or fighting sports are too limited to be the best, every of its does have weak points and strong points. Jiu-jitsu also has weak points, kick-boxing too, and so on... That's why the fighters in MMA are using the best points of a great variety of martial arts, and so does Machida, when he claims :"If you think Shotokan fighters can't knock a man out, you better watch yourself" (in "Fight" Magazine, april 2009)
Ry0Narushima 2 years ago
they can do it better if they use not only one style:)
supralee 2 years ago
You raise an interesting point. I am a practitioner of Shotokan Karatejutsu, so let me say that it isn't Shotokan that is limited, it is the travesty of "sport Karate" that is limited. As a Martial Art, specifically a combative one, Shotokan has the same arsenal as all other martial arts, be it grappling, striking, mental, but the rigid rules within "sport" Karate-DO, has limited it down front punch, reverse punch, ect ect....with those constraints, no art could be effective.
redneckninjanc 2 years ago 5
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it is time to push Karate-do back in the direction of karate-jutsu as a whole.
redneckninjanc 2 years ago
i am studied it several years and seen all the best and all limitid points there.its certan that karate himself is too raw and onsided to be really effective at all!tahts difficult to accept but thats fact!
supralee 2 years ago
supralee, how about you ask lyoto machida if karate is too raw to be effective you fuckin tool
SimonneBTBAM 2 years ago
@SimonneBTBAM machida is just ckbecause he has trained in differnet styles and has a great physical abilites.master of bbj also:)and his father teach him different way of karate not traditional one.
supralee 2 years ago
bullshit, Lyoto Machida's MMA style fights have as much to do with traditional Shotokan Karate as Real food has to do with Mc DOnald's...you're a typical 'classical mess' fantasist, as mentioned by Bruce Lee..carry on dreaming fool
vincent4500 2 years ago
Type in 'Shotokan JKA Kumite' in Youtube and take a look. These fighters are not using full power and speed, and are limited by rules.
I would agree if you pitted a professional boxer against an experienced karate-ka and limited the karate-ka to using punches only, the professional boxer would most likely come out on top. Allow the karate-ka to use kicks, punches etc and it could be a different story.
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Shinobi173 2 years ago
in close examination the main thing they use is zuki.against boxer this would be suicide!mawashi geri is difficult to use if one is not open like good boxer alwayes is.those things works within their own style thats main point:)
supralee 2 years ago
Exactly in the sporting context boxing works against boxers, karate against karate-ka because of the rules that are applied. Boxers tend to slug it out toe to toe, whereas a karate-ka would not try and do this, rather they would look for an opening and attack it for a one strike finish, strictly in the sporting context, otherwise karate is about defending and countering. My own experience is with karate, jujitsu & some boxing and I believe you can learn something from all the fighting arts.
Shinobi173 2 years ago 2
agreed!amen:)
supralee 2 years ago
Don't forget that boxers are train to fight with 16oz gloves while the karateka is train to fight with bare knuckles. This may seem trival but gloves make all the difference. The tacticts that a karateka uses are nulified if he fought the boxer in a ring with 16oz gloves but on the open mat with the small coton type gloves use by karate fighters, the boxer has no chance in hell to win.
judofan 2 years ago 4
I'm glad to hear someone make that point. Boxers actually use the gloves to deflect punches. Karate does not work with boxing gloves. Take the gloves off, and that's a different story. Oss
njtr 2 years ago
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bollocks, look it up on youtube, there are several skilled karateka sparring with amateur boxers and guess what..the boxers kick their asses..knocking most of the idiots out...you talk when you have no fight experience or eye for reality...
vincent4500 2 years ago
I've been training in boxing and karate for several years and I can say both work with proper training. In fact, some of the worst beatings I've taken came courtesy of my karate friends...of course boxing is an excellent sport, but you can't compare a professional boxer with an average joe practicing karate three times a week. On the other hand, people like the JKA senseis are tough as nails fighters that can easily hold their own in real fighting...
deadguy29 2 years ago 12
they are very good in their style but in mixed martial art they are just beginners.karate itself is too onsided to use in real fight with experienced opponent!
supralee 3 years ago
These are great video clips of a great instructor.
Ronin6575 3 years ago
Thanks, great clip.
kneetrembler1 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this
lolsupimbob 3 years ago
His fluid, demonstration-slow techniques are misleading to the eye. He can strike with 2000+ pounds of force per square inch. I saw him put his fist through a square chunk of wood beam. To me, his character is even more impressive.
sfkcbf 4 years ago
Uhm. Thanks for your sharing. It's useful for me
Ilovedicky 4 years ago 3
robots!
supralee 4 years ago
This is simply basic training to develop balance, timing and distancing and smooth technique. You need to see him in action!
Ronin6575 3 years ago
in mma he wouldnt last 10 seconds!that is only action that proves his skills!
supralee 3 years ago
in Kyokushin, these are called "yakusoku-kumite"
i love kyokushin, shotokan, goju-ryu, nihon kenpo, chugoku kenpo, and Aikido.
richardfactory 4 years ago 3
This is some good stuff.
metaldude21 4 years ago 2
Very useful! Thanks for sharing. Is there a way to save these to disk to view offline?
tom76b 4 years ago
buscatube . com has this option i guess. or some other site. check "links" at every video, you will find the site that offers this option.
WadoAJ 4 years ago
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75million 4 years ago
i use firefox and download helper add on, and then save the file for my own purpose.
ajisakti 4 years ago
if you move the mouse pointer over the video
you will see a windows sying download this video. just click there and you dl it
gettmad 4 years ago
Nice training video. Thanks for posting.
pgong 4 years ago
I used to live in what would i guess be called in america, the "gangster" part of Manilla, Philippines. Living in that area was very rough, violence is everywhere, and I know from experience that karate can be used efficiently in a fight, its very scary to be confronted but overcoming that fear is part of karate, and when you just use what you have been taught and obtain those instincts through what you have been taught, you will ultimately be victorious in battle.
FoxhoundBlack 4 years ago
are there more films like this on the net? I started to practice karate a year ago. I think the kihon of Master Kanazawa is excelent for training.
amam511 4 years ago
Thanks for watching!
dvdmillenium 5 years ago
good film
thanks for sharings
letuanA 5 years ago
An excellent video of basic technique. Too many "modern" karateka think kihon ippon kumite is a waste of time and impractical. What they don't realise is that this basic training is used to develop technique, timing and all the other parts essential to become a proficient karateka. And, to pre-empt any other responses, the techniques are not meant to be for on the street self defence.
royksk 5 years ago 2