@brenbaroque Edit out the beginning of that audio passage where noise makes it sound as if it started with an 'F' sound. Without that first part, to me it sounds more like 'and uh Hou'.
In watching the 6-part PBS presentation, I found it unimaginable that what seems like a trivial piece of foam would impact the leading edge with over a ton of force. Many people dropped the ball on this one... Sad.
@cptexas1 Not quite correct - three people dropped the ball - program director Ron Dittemore, and flight directors Linda Ham and Leroy Cain - all should have faced criminal charges IMO for negligence, because the people who know - engineers - were BEGGING for surveillance on the wing, just as those same engineers had BEGGED to forgo the Challenger launch in cold weather. The simple expedient of poking one's head out the hatch would have revealed in stark clarity the damage to the left wing.
@dirac33 Linda Ham was demoted after Columbia. She was stated as having a terse attitude with other workers, cutting people off mod-sentence, implanting seeds in the minds of others "but this isn't a flight safety issue, right?"
If you have watched many of the shuttle press events on NASA-TV, you'll note that journalists rarely asked Ham any questions. Usually she would sit there quiet through the whole event, even though she was the mission manager.
I know this was posted years ago, but have been interested in learning more. I thought this was very well done, albeit difficult to watch. Godspeed, Crew of Columbia.
Is the A/V sync correct in this video? Seems tough to imagine why EECOM would be talking about a few temperature readings at the same moment the SSME's are slamming into terra firma. You'd think by that point they'd have lost all telemetry and realized something catastrophic had happened.
We thought that Bush wudnt go on after this tragic accident, but that good for nothing son of a bitch ordered invasion of Iraq and look us now, so much blood and money being wasted just to pursue evil lust :(
oh this is the best of the burn in composite vids, the thing that gets me is we have rocket scientist that dont understandm velocity, speed, impact force, opposite and equal reaction, du physiscs? maybe i could have worked in nasa. 9500 hours of flying and i do a walk around every time i land, no matter how short the flight, wow
In a lot of pictures shown on CNN there is a couple that are very interesting.
first is the debris from the tanks falling and hitting the wing when in lift off.
second is the picture from an outside camera that clearly show the damage on the wing.
Technicians told them that this was minor damage and would not interfere with reentry... well I guess they now they were wrong... let the deaths of the courageous crew haunt them till the end of their lives...
As I understand it, multiple sonic booms were heard over Texas as the pieces descended low enough in the atmosphere to generate booms that could be heard. It apparently sounded like a crackle. Good video footage combining. I've seen similar, but this is the most elaborate.
There was expected to be a little communications problems with that portion of the re-entry. Also, the Shuttle crew does not transmit continuously. By the time the crew knew they were in trouble, they had no ability to communicate to the ground or, even if they did for a brief moment, they were probably too busy trying to get the Shuttle under control.
Mission Control seems calm because they are trained to remain calm and watch the data on the screens.
This doesn't make me a total expert. However, in The USAF, I began as a Air Traffic Controller. ATC's are very simular to SFC's used by NASA in Mission Control.
My Dad was a former WWII Pilot and I am Private Pilot too, so in my jobs as a TV Reporter, these things makes me an "EXPERT." LOL!
I'm sorry, this is taking a few seperate posts in order for me to make this make sense...
On that Saturday Morning I was at The Television Station where I was a Reporter then and I was watching the live feed from Nasa TV. (For KMEX-TV in LA, I was the THEIR "Space Expert" and I had to be there, actually just in case that something bad happened, and we needed to report it. That was common practise and it still is at many TV Studios.
Now that on-orbit check-outs are happening, hopefully we'll never see the like of this again. The successful return of STS-121 today shows the need to take your time and get it right.
i would like for someone to explain...if high alt cameras saw this within ascent, how could they have aborted? they never would have been able to train for such a thing.
Does anyone understand what is said at about 5:44 because that sounded like a voice from the shuttle? Sounded to me like "feel'n the heat."
brenbaroque 6 months ago
@brenbaroque Edit out the beginning of that audio passage where noise makes it sound as if it started with an 'F' sound. Without that first part, to me it sounds more like 'and uh Hou'.
3bhui 2 weeks ago
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brenbaroque 6 months ago
How can you know that you will be dead in less than one minute and stay so calm?? Thats really scary!
luzdeluna1985 10 months ago
In watching the 6-part PBS presentation, I found it unimaginable that what seems like a trivial piece of foam would impact the leading edge with over a ton of force. Many people dropped the ball on this one... Sad.
cptexas1 10 months ago
@cptexas1 Not quite correct - three people dropped the ball - program director Ron Dittemore, and flight directors Linda Ham and Leroy Cain - all should have faced criminal charges IMO for negligence, because the people who know - engineers - were BEGGING for surveillance on the wing, just as those same engineers had BEGGED to forgo the Challenger launch in cold weather. The simple expedient of poking one's head out the hatch would have revealed in stark clarity the damage to the left wing.
dirac33 10 months ago
@dirac33 Linda Ham was demoted after Columbia. She was stated as having a terse attitude with other workers, cutting people off mod-sentence, implanting seeds in the minds of others "but this isn't a flight safety issue, right?"
If you have watched many of the shuttle press events on NASA-TV, you'll note that journalists rarely asked Ham any questions. Usually she would sit there quiet through the whole event, even though she was the mission manager.
3bhui 2 weeks ago
I know this was posted years ago, but have been interested in learning more. I thought this was very well done, albeit difficult to watch. Godspeed, Crew of Columbia.
cptexas1 10 months ago
Man, how these guys stay so calm when they know that the sensor drop out probably mean VERY bad things... professionals...
LCPStud 1 year ago
what is the strange crackle sound at 6:42 ?
romitkin 1 year ago
Is the A/V sync correct in this video? Seems tough to imagine why EECOM would be talking about a few temperature readings at the same moment the SSME's are slamming into terra firma. You'd think by that point they'd have lost all telemetry and realized something catastrophic had happened.
dvnrrs 1 year ago
We thought that Bush wudnt go on after this tragic accident, but that good for nothing son of a bitch ordered invasion of Iraq and look us now, so much blood and money being wasted just to pursue evil lust :(
cosmicparox2000 2 years ago
This happened just a couple of days before the US was about to attack Iraq.
cosmicparox2000 2 years ago
oh this is the best of the burn in composite vids, the thing that gets me is we have rocket scientist that dont understandm velocity, speed, impact force, opposite and equal reaction, du physiscs? maybe i could have worked in nasa. 9500 hours of flying and i do a walk around every time i land, no matter how short the flight, wow
mikemoair 2 years ago
@mikemoair
What the fuck are you babbling about?
How does your walk-around of your rental Cessna 172 have anything to do with what happened to the Columbia?
LCPStud 1 year ago
@LCPStud I dont know but u have a 2 pound object hitting it at 500 miles and hour, just me but that should be check out.
mikemoair 1 year ago
Excellent assembly of the video and audio. Good work, xalteridemx.
coldsteaklint 4 years ago 2
In a lot of pictures shown on CNN there is a couple that are very interesting.
first is the debris from the tanks falling and hitting the wing when in lift off.
second is the picture from an outside camera that clearly show the damage on the wing.
Technicians told them that this was minor damage and would not interfere with reentry... well I guess they now they were wrong... let the deaths of the courageous crew haunt them till the end of their lives...
DaMastaSkullFox 4 years ago
As I understand it, multiple sonic booms were heard over Texas as the pieces descended low enough in the atmosphere to generate booms that could be heard. It apparently sounded like a crackle. Good video footage combining. I've seen similar, but this is the most elaborate.
JMChladek 5 years ago
they said u could hear a sonic boom sound over some parts of texas
Kcfan413 5 years ago
There was expected to be a little communications problems with that portion of the re-entry. Also, the Shuttle crew does not transmit continuously. By the time the crew knew they were in trouble, they had no ability to communicate to the ground or, even if they did for a brief moment, they were probably too busy trying to get the Shuttle under control.
Mission Control seems calm because they are trained to remain calm and watch the data on the screens.
mjanovec 5 years ago
Please...update your vidinfo to state this is best
viewed at fullscreen to see the overlays!
Dreamsender 5 years ago
that was indeed a very sad day for the space program...
I was at work in Montgomery Al....and when a co worker told me of the tragedy... I did not Believe her...
RIP Columbia crew
terry1919 5 years ago
Fenrish,
I will try to answer your question as best as I can.
This is how I might know about this:
1st, my G-Father was a key engineer in the Apollo Program, including the Lunar Landings b4 he retired.
2nd, my cousin was Judith Reznik who died on Challenger in '86.
I was a television newscaster and cuz of my connections with NASA, I'd been accepted in pre-training for the "Reporter In Space" program.
DavidCubero 5 years ago
The "Reporter In Space" Program was permanantly cancelled due to the fact that the teacher from the "Teacher In Space" died onboard Challenger in 86.
I had been sent to Adult Spacecamp at MSFC, and classes and KSC and at JSC. Aside from this, I got a ride on "The Vomit Comit." LOL
DavidCubero 5 years ago
This doesn't make me a total expert. However, in The USAF, I began as a Air Traffic Controller. ATC's are very simular to SFC's used by NASA in Mission Control.
My Dad was a former WWII Pilot and I am Private Pilot too, so in my jobs as a TV Reporter, these things makes me an "EXPERT." LOL!
DavidCubero 5 years ago
I'm sorry, this is taking a few seperate posts in order for me to make this make sense...
On that Saturday Morning I was at The Television Station where I was a Reporter then and I was watching the live feed from Nasa TV. (For KMEX-TV in LA, I was the THEIR "Space Expert" and I had to be there, actually just in case that something bad happened, and we needed to report it. That was common practise and it still is at many TV Studios.
DavidCubero 5 years ago
@DavidCubero Not to offend you or anything, but if your cousin was really Judith Resnik, why would you misspell her last name?
Alexfan14 10 months ago
Now that on-orbit check-outs are happening, hopefully we'll never see the like of this again. The successful return of STS-121 today shows the need to take your time and get it right.
HawklordPXR5 5 years ago
i would like for someone to explain...if high alt cameras saw this within ascent, how could they have aborted? they never would have been able to train for such a thing.
coreyagraph 5 years ago
seeing it fall apart, and have a piece fall on your roof, is grim.
perfoodleschnitz 5 years ago
Grim viewing for space entheusiasts
HawklordPXR5 5 years ago
i wanted to see the crash...
mamaduu 5 years ago
It didn't crash. The craft it self was broken apart during re-entry and parts of the shuttle fell on the ground...including human remains.
DrmsrXXIII 5 years ago