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  • These guys are so much fucking smarter then me. and theyr from TEXAS. I am ashamed.

  • I kept waiting for Matt to say "That's asinine" but he never did 8-(

  • Impressive

    

  • This caller is so confused it's hilarious! 

  • Hey! Leave the green screen alone! 2:40

  • guess only european atheist do anything for humankind. Atheism. Philosophy is not science nor does it offer proof that god does not exist or exist. Yoda from star wars was a philosipher yet you sorry atheist think it offers proof to your idea! Martin luther king had a dream but the fact that we have yet to make proven contact with another intelligent lifeform is curious. If there is no god and even science says its a miricle that we even exist how can you be so damn certain we were just lucky?

  • I was told earlier there are all kinds of atheist charitys being oragnised in europe. I was told this when I made the point when has an atheist ever organized a charity or given something back to mankind. Why do we not hear of atheist doing more for humanity it because you are all too self obsorbed to care for anything or believe in anything but your own selfish existance. Atheist gain zero momentum in contributing to man other than trying to negate God! Thats your sole mission.

  • I still see nothing in atheist! Nothing. You stand for nothing beleive in nothing! Remember atheism is an idea! A meer speculation that has far less proof than the ancient writtings of promanent members in roman society that wrote of the miracles of Jesus Christ and these people had no reason to fabricate, they were roman officials! Once again atheism is an idiots idea that negates actual writtings.

  • @Jamonem80 there were no contemporaries writing about the 'miracles'. only people who lived much later who reported about rumours about 'miracles'. that is not evidence at all. atheism is not an ideology. atheism is simply a response to the theistic claim that this or that god exists. atheism as such per definition does not have some comprehensive worldview to 'offer' you. you can be an atheist and have all sorts of ideas about the world, as long as you don't believe a god exists.

  • Christians doing bad things automatically become non christians? Christians are in denial that some of their kind of people are evil and their religion fuels it.

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  • Irredisregardless

  • My brain just exploded.

  • what's the difference between the two viewpoints?

    assuming any personal viewpoint about a concept is madness.

  • this is actually the only intelligent caller i have seen on the show. as blackplatypus said, the caller's approach may not be the best way of criticizing something in particular, but he is definitely right and it is rather shameful for matt to not have lived up to the task of the discussion imo, especially because his statements about absolute truth (which we absolutely can never know) and quantum mechanics (which *does* say that all states apply to particles simultaneously) are wrong.

  • @Ensiferu About QM; we say to treat the particles as if that were true, we don't state that they really do. A small difference but an important one.

    It's the reason why the saying "if you think you understand QM, you don't understand QM" exists.

    It's a problem with the theory. Classical Mech works to a point, and then falls down, but it can predict everything up to that point. Same with QM; there's a something that explains this odd property, we just don't know what it is.

  • Matt Dillahunty... a powerhouse of thought and reason. I have a deep admiration for him.

  • look at these poor souls fighting so hard , "what is ultimate reality?" please just take a rip and enjoy life

  • @bulldogbell1980

    F to the yea.

  • I'm really annoyed when people's first line of defense is a retreat to solipsism. Rather than defend what it is they claim to know, some people prefer to attack the very notion of knowing things.

    I'm not saying it's false, I'm just saying it betrays a lot about your position.

  • wow... i didn't understand SHIT

  • I would love to see Matt's reading list. I wonder how much Smullyan he has read.

  • The caller is actually completely wrong. There is one experience that we have that is not contingent upon our senses - death. So even though any one person is incapable of grounding to reality, evolution itself is what grounds us to reality.

    He's also wrong about Zeno's paradox, and is in over his head with quantum mechanics. Rule of thumb - any time someone tries to argue something with QM outside of making physical predictions they're committing crackpottery.

    --signed a former crackpot.

  • @odysseus9672

    Not true. Those who have been revived from "death" after a moment, 10 min or some even longer in bizzare circumstances, have reported seeing things. Some differ wildly in description, others are strikingly similar, but we have no way of knowing for sure. From what we've ascertained, death is as varied an experience as life. Maybe none of those experiences were real and it's something else, but we cannot assert that death is any more true than life. Once we know, we can't tell.

  • They were delirious because of the lack of oxygen ask a doctor why.

  • @crissxxx

    I don't need to ask a doctor. I'm studying neuroscience myself.

    Between 10 to 20 % of people who undergo cardiac arrest report lucid, well-structured thoughts, reasoning, memories & sometimes detailed recall of their the physical event, visions and or "near death experiences." Sometimes, this is during periods of no noticable brain activity.

    Trying to bundle it all up into a closed case of "they were confused" is not scientific at all. Look up DMT studies and real science behind NDE

  • If you believe that than you might as well become a priest.Cardiac arrest prevents blood from being sent to the body and you lose conscious and if you think you can still remember what you did last summer than go for it,its your choice but I its not proof for me.

  • @crissxxx

    Just b/c you dismiss something, doesn't mean you understood it or have evidence against it. You should research this matter before you post ignorant thoughts. Blood is prevented from flowing, but neurons & glia operate for a while after that. Blood flow or lack there of does not end life abruptly. More research needs to be done about the final stages of brain death & simply b/c I'm being a scientist about it doesn't mean I believe in fairies. What are you doing to figure it out?

  • How can they be lucid when you say they have visions of near and death experience?How do you know that they even tell the truth?You can see spots even from not being injured or near death which is simply the lack of nutrients.People asociate things they see with what its easier to interpret.Yes we do not have all the answers if that's what you are saying but I refuse to believe in something that is imaginary just beacuse I don't know how its made?

  • @crissxxx

    Your last comment proves that you are NOT ignorant or stupid. Thank you. Yes, I don't know. I'm TOTALLY against religion and especially xtianity, but I will not rule out the possibility of an energy field or level of consciousness outside of what we know. I think science has already shown numerous possibilities of it within the frame of M-Theory and entanglement. SOMETHING binds us all together and I know it isn't god, but I'm not ruling out a different form of consciousness.

  • @crissxxx

    My personal theory is that the reason we cannot detect brain activity is because we use electrical activity as a basis for it. Glia (white matter, not grey matter) doesn't communicate with electrical impulses. It uses chemical means such as calcium. Some have argued that the white matter represents your subconscious & so perhaps this is all it is. Your white matter freaking the hell out before it stops. But maybe consciousness is something greater. I don't know. I WANT to find out tho

  • @crissxxx

    Last one... promise.

    How can I tell they are telling the truth? Easy. Some people do lie. But a person recovering from a traumatic experience isn't always likely to have cooked up some NDE hoax like a UFO abductee. Most of these people really saw something & don't even know why it is. A lot of their lives change because of this. Maybe it's the reason people have "religious" experiences. I want to know to stop people from needlessly believing in gods, when there's a science behind it.

  • Well look at science in the past, back then scientists didn't know anything near of what today's scicentists know.At first they had theories then later it proved that those were mistakes but they corrected their mistakes and got some answers that can be valid and as for the science today is nothing compared to what the future has to unlock.In my understanding there isnt anything mysterious just uncharted and we see science going forward and so on.

  • @crissxxx

    I totally agree with you except for one part. There is A L O T that is mysterious & uncharted. It wasn't until fairly recently that we discovered how important the white matter was. It was ignored for so long & thought of as "glue" holding the brain together. M-theory is thought of as a joke to some. Theres a lot we don't know yet, but magic & fairies are certainly NOT part of it. We know that religion is Bull$#!t. I think that we will solve these mysteries soon.. with science.

  • Agreed.

  • @crissxxx

    Sorry for coming off like a religious nut at first. I understand why you'd think I was. I just have an open mind and sometimes I'm blown away by the things I learn about neuroscience and what it means for the possibility of a "soul" or maybe consciousness. It's dangerous water to tread. I vow I will NEVER become a nutbar though. Science, not religion. Facts, not lies. Thanks for hearing me out and sharing your thoughts.

  • Sure no problem and I hope more people see it your way instead of going blindly without researching first.

  • That's how progress is made, we make mistakes and we correct them and go forward.I'm not counting out the possiblity of God But its absurd to that religions say "we always have the answers".Even if it would be such as a God there could be possibility that It (could have or not a gender) might be completely different from what all religions say.Then what?

  • Why was Matt so harsh with Don...?

  • @1RadicalOne Matt is an asshole. But in a good way.

  • Perhaps he can be, but he can also be quite the opposite.

    But why was he like that with his cohost? Yes, Don made a comment that made it obvious he did not fully understand what Matt was saying, but what Matt said and the way he said it was only one or two "levels" below openly ridiculing what he said.

    And what of Jeff, I wonder? ;)

  • Haha i love Don man.

    He always seems so amused :P

  • @gunblade64 it is because he drinks alittle before the show to looseb his nerves :P jk

  • @degillin Hehe serves him right too.

    And i think it's a save bet to cast that to all of them.

  • It's people like this that make me hate philosophy.

    We miss you Epicurus!!!

  • Whenever someone starts using philosophy as a proof of a 'higher intelligence' you know they're clutching at straws and have no real argument!

  • @trooperJac I agree. Matt Slick and his TAG argument is a great example of how desperate Christians have become. Despite all the philisophical rhetoric, Slick and all these other apologists still can't provide solid proof that the biblical god exists.

  • What the hell are those guys doing in the background?

  • What the hell are those working people doing there, couldn't they just wait? :P

  • when you say "god" does not exist you say you do not exist.

    the one=infinite LIFE=me/you.

  • Is the show going out of beusiness.

  • I don't think I would ever be friends with this caller in real life.... he seems like a complete tool. lol

  • Can someone explain that last thing to me? How can science explain Xenos' Paradox? I'm really curious-- something about skipping over.

  • Zeno's paradox attempts to prove that motion is impossible by stating that before you can move anywhere you have to move halfway there, requiring an infinite number of half-steps, so you can never get anywhere.

    It fails because speed is usually a constant in these problems, and so as the distances get increasingly smaller, so does the time it takes you to achieve those distances, until at the beginning you actually are taking infinite infinitely small steps instantly, which does allow motion.

  • I don't think anyone is in a position to declare the classical laws of logic to be absolute.

  • @youngfred116 Hahahahaha. What an idiot... Thanks for that laugh.

  • they are in front of a green screen! proof? As the man walked behind them, he created a shadow. the image of FSM behind the shadow was gone, and there was green. his shadow changed the shade so you sould see the green screan without the computer changing it

  • I love philosophy, nothing but unanswerable questions..... what is reality? who can answer that?

  • Huh. I read your comment before I watched the video (it was on top), and I eagerly watched the video so I could tell you how wrong you are.

    Meh. On this one, I think you're right, and Dillahunty was wrong.

    One of the fundamental principles of Quantum (which the caller even brings up) honestly DOES break his logical absolutes.

  • The real question is of course if any of those reflect reality, which is what Matt was talking about. It's not like he was denying that you can make other systems of logic, it's just that he happens to be convinced that the laws of classical logic transcend everything.

    As far as I know, there are no examples of nature contradicting itself.

  • Silly Theist, Atheism is only a lack of belief in God, not the assertion he/they don't exist. You have to prove he exists, not the other way around.

  • Silly Atheist. "We hold these truths to be self-evident." Demanding "proof" of a Creator is on-par with "proving" gravity, electricity, light, or any other obvious reality. Evidence of His existence is all around you, yet you *will* not believe. All will be undeniably clear to you one second after you breath your last. "There is none so blind as him who WILL NOT see." Nietzsche was at least honest, faced the futility of his atheism, and died eating his own feces. Please don't feed us yours.

  • Silly Theist, Gravity, electricity, light, and all the rest of reality is easily demonstrated. On the other hand, you cannot demonstrate God.

  • Evidence of AMAZING design and MASSIVE intelligence is all around you, but you refuse to see. What you perceive as "easily demonstrated" natural phenomena are evidences of a Master Designer. YOU propose a scenario (without intelligent design) which is equivalent to a hurricane blowing through a salvage yard and assembling an F-22 fighter jet, yet a SINGLE CELL in your body contains INFINITELY more information than even that. Your "faith" in secular science fails the giggle test. Silly atheist.

  • I don't propose any scenario, and you grossly misrepresent what Evolution is, what it states, and the evidence that supports it. There is no evidence that there was any intelligence behind any of it, or even that any intelligence was required. There is no faith in science, only evidence, and so far still no evidence of a God. Silly Theist.

  • Au-contrare "chaos-source," but you DO propose a "matter-is-eternal, everything-is-a-cosmic-acciden­t" worldview, do you not? You enshrine "science" as your sacred writ, yet how many times have "scientists" blundered? Darwin postulated racism in his 'evolutionary tree' model, & 100s of MILLIONS died as "subhumans" or "aborigines" by "superior racists" acting out "survival of the fittest" nonsense. Evolution is the "religion" of Orcs. Come out of the "dark side." I weary of this silly exchange.

  • I propose nothing. I do not "enshrine" science, which is why when scientists make mistakes I can identify them, and move on. Darwin postulated no such racism, nor has anyone killed for it or died because of it. Evolution is no religion, and still you grossly misrepresent it.

    Stop placing me in the dark side, and realize that you're trying to include Evolution in the evils of religion.

  • Just FYI, uncountable billions have died acting out "survival of the fittest". This is an inarguable fact. Your argument simply boils down to you wanting your God to have created the system.

    However, the murders of "subhumans", to a large extent performed by Christian imperialists and missionaries by the way, precedes Darwin by ages. See: slaughter of native americans and africans.

    It's simply ridiculous to think racism was invented by Darwin.

  • Darwin strongly condemned the behavior of Europeans toward the natives in their colonies, in fact.

  • "Evolution" had "nothing" to DO with the "holocaust." This is a "long" dead creationist "argument" that has "been" THOROUGHLY "rebuked." Also, "your" matter-of-fact "attitude" is "hilarious."

    "Please" show your "evidence" for "creationism." I would "very" much "like" to "see" "it". "Thanks" "in" "advance!"

  • Hitler was a creationist for cripes sake...talk about a strawman. How these losers can ignore what Adolph wrote in Mein Kamph is stunning. He openly rejects Darwinian evolution and goes with God making everything.

  • @ThieleM "Hitler was a creationist for cripes sake" ....that's completely asinine.

    and by that logic atheist are "anti semitic"....... I guess that puts you right up there with Hitler, not to mention your lack of understanding of "Eugenics".

  • @romney27

    NO

    You need to look up what hitler said when talking about God. He rejected Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection outright. Read Hitlers book in that book h e talks about God the creator. Read transcripts of his speeches (if you understand German listen to the) when he goes off on the creator and how God created racial levels. If you can't read, which may be the case, I suggest Aron Ra's vid on dissing Darwin. Hitler was a creationist.

  • @ThieleM I think your understanding of history is full of "projection". To argue that Hitler was a "religious creationist" is the hight of over simplification, if not right out irrelevant... He also thought that germans were descendant of the "aryans" so by your logic I guess that would make him Hindu as well...lol

  • @romney27

    Actually NO

    Hitler thought the Aryans were the ultimate creations of GOd and were destined to rule the world. He didnot accept evolution in Darwinian terms..he was a believer of Lamarckian inheritance not Darwinian Evolution. Have you studied Hitler?

  • @romney27

    youtube.com/watch?v=QCNftnJZX1­Y is the link to the Aron ra video. He posts HItler quotes that you can look up. The quotes start at abou the 7 minute mark.

  • @romney27

    evolution is not eugenics, eugenics bypasses natural selection. it is the bastard child of people who think they are superior

  • @MrMegatruth "eugenics" is an interesting problem. I calls into question all kinds things. But at the end of the day can it be called unnatural that a creature has evolved to subvert "natural selection"? Who is to say? Kinda similar to atheism, by what authority is the observed (i.e. religions and beliefs in gods) should be something that is not observed? I think atheism claiming its "opinion" as scientifically back logic is the real myth.

  • @romney27

    humans have formed the capacity to play "god" if there is such a thing. that does not mean we should. if you look at ethical standards that science imposing on itself you will see that safeguards are proposed to block this kind of behavior. as far as the other questions or statements you made, there seems to be some confusion on my behave. i do not know what the hell you are trying to say.

    you claim science as a myth, where is your evidence?

  • @MrMegatruth I think scientific "safeguards" have failed us on many levels. History is full of blunders when it comes to messing with nature.

    science is not a myth, just atheist claiming that their "opinion" is some how backed by scientific reason, when science requires one to address the observed. Religion and beliefs in gods exist, and to claim that they shouldn't, is only opinion. And that's far from science.

  • @romney27

    much like religious morals and ethics, which has let us down in the past.. there are always exceptions/deviations to the rule. so based on your logic, which religion is right? which god is right? according to you all that is necessary for truth is belief and practice. where is the evidence?

  • @MrMegatruth " where is the evidence?" that religion and beliefs in gods exist? That's almost laughable. Or do you need evidence that thoughts can change ones physiology? You do know that stress causes the body to make all kinds of chemicals that are hard on the liver and kidneys? The same can be said of love, the brain makes chemicals that brings pleasure when you're in love.... So any god you truly believe in is right if it helps your body make beneficial chemicals. can you prove that wrong?

  • @romney27

    Physiology is the science of the functioning of living systems. It is a subcategory of biology. In physiology, the scientific method is applied to determine how organisms, organ systems, organs, cells and biomolecules carry out the chemical or physical function that they have in a living system. just so we know what we are talking about. Where is the change in physiology? what chemicals has the body produce that the human body doesn't normally produce?

  • @romney27

    so based on your logic the flying spaghetti monster is right? you know there is research to suggest that temporal lobe seizures bring about religious visions, does that make the visions REAL, because the brain seized?

  • @romney27 ...yes, actually, he would need evidence that thoughts affect the physical structure of the body. And we have that evidence. Problem solved.

  • @ThieleM they seem to forget that the idea of breeding desirable traits was around long before Darwin came on the scene, the breeding of dogs for certain traits and flowers to be brighter, nicer to smell etc was in practice before darwin's time and people seem to confuse eugenics with evolution and natural selection, it is by definition artificial selection

  • @ThieleM Implying these clowns actually read.

  • @pendulousphallus

    Good point, damn good point

  • @ThieleM My conversations with theists convince me that they have an absolute lack of intellectual curiosity and a willingness to hold a belief without any attempt to confirm that their assumptions conform even in a slight sense to reality.

    Because they don't read, they can hear "Hitler" and believe anything about a group of people they believe to be evil after being related to him and they can believe it without checking up on it because it sounds good to them.

    It's frustrating.

  • @ThieleM is your "f" key broken? its Adolf and Mein Kampf ;)

    Also Hitler was an occultist as well.

  • @FrontlinerCdV

    My phone switches to ph.

    Hitler's occultism is like bringing up his shoe size or choice in car color.....not important. He was still a Christian and a creationist.

  • @ThieleM

    im sorry but i know hitler and you are wrong.If u take a look at nazi ideology and racial supremacy it was based on darwin.

  • @Hemouth

    Hitler rejected Darwin, he actually pushed an earlier discredited version of evolution proposed by Jean Baptiste Lamarck. Applying us all to darwin ties us all to Africa, blacks....Hitler couldnt have that. Hitler didnt believe that. Hitler talked about the work of the designer of the universe, he talked about God. You dont know a thing about Hitler. His men went around with "God is with us" on their belt buckles, they had prayer sessions. Hitler is Christianity's baggage

  • @Hemouth

    Anyone capable of reading and doing a google search tells you otherwise. Sorry, Hitler is your baggage. Hitler strawmanned Darwinian evolution like you idiots have done and based his genocide on biblical teachings. If anything you should see Hitler as a hero. The catholic church has apologized for what they did to alleo, you and other christians should apologize for Hitler. Be honest like Jesus says, asshole.

  • @ThieleM CHRISTIANS DONT KILL ANY1. EVEN IF HITLER SAID HE WAS A CHRITSIAN (WHICH HE WASNT) KILLING 11 MILLION PEOPLE DOES NOT MAKE YOU A CHRISTIAN. THAT IS LIKE ME SAYING IM AN ATHEIST AND GOING TO CHURCH AND PRAYING.

  • @mas03

    It is nothing like saying 'I am an atheist and to go church and pray' What an absolutely banal comment to close on...that and your overuse of caps demonstrates that you are an intellectual lightweight.

    Christians don't kill anyone? Thats funny since they ran around burning people during the inquisition, Crusades and Holocaust. Christians are also over represented on death row in the US.

  • @ThieleM YOU MISSED THE POINT. A REAL TRUE CHRISTIAN WHO FOLLOWS CHRIST WONT KILL ANYONE, HE/SHE WILL BE KIND, LOVING, FORGIVING, HUMBLE, ETC. JUST BY SAYING ONE THING DOESNT AUTOMATICALLY MAKE YOU THAT THING, HOW YOU PROVE YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN IS BY YOUR WORKS. ITS ALL ACTIONS NOT WHAT YOU SAY.

  • @mas03

    I missed nothing. You are making the 'no true scotsman' fallacy. It doesnt even matter if Hitler was a christian, and he was, what matters is that the Holocaust was undertaken by CHristians using the bible as a rally cry.

    And turn off the caps, it makes you look retarded.

  • @ThieleM THE ONLY ONE THAT LOOKS RETARDED HERE IS YOU, YOU DONT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND AND ACCEPT COMMON SENSE. LIKE I SAID, A REAL TRUE CHRISTIAN WHO FOLLOWS CHRIST WONT KILL ANYONE, HE/SHE WILL BE KIND, LOVING, FORGIVING, HUMBLE, ETC. YOU KNOW SOMEONE IS A CHRISTIAN BY THEIR WORKSSSSSSS

  • @mas03

    So Jesus was lying when he said that the only way to the kingdom was by accepting the lord? He says that works wont get one into the kingdom. You obviously dont know your own religion very well.

    You have no idea what common sense is, that is why you spell works with extra s'...which is the sound of a snake by the way. Curious, you dont know christianity and make allusions to snakes.

    I think you are a pawn of satan

  • @ThieleM AGAIN YOU MISSED THE POINT-__-. ACCEPTING THE LORD IS LIVING THE WAY JESUS TOLD US TO LIVE, TO BE LOVING, KIND, LOVE YOUR ENEMIES. IF YOU ACCEPT THE LORD THAN YOUR ACTIONS WILL BE HOW JESUS TOLD US TO LIVE. IF JESUS SAID THAT KILLING IS OK AS LONG AS YOU BELIEVE IN ME YOU WILL BE IN MY KINGDOM THAN THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT BUT JESUS WANTS US TO LOVE EVERYONE INCLUDING OUR ENEMIES. THEREFORE ONLY A TRUE/REAL CHRISTIAN WOULD LOVE ITS ENEMIES.

  • @mas03

    I didnt miss anything. It is just that you are wrong. You have, unknowingly, said that Jesus was wrong. CHrist also said that anyone who doesnt follow his word should be brought before him and put to death, he preached the old testament which condoned going into cities and kiling women and children. Loving your enemy wasnt in the original manuscripts...that notion is a tack on from hundreds of yours later.

    You dont know your own religion.

  • @brucereedporter, and what you believe is that there was nothing and then something got bored and created everything in existance with the bat of an eyelash. Silly theist.

  • @brucereedporter

    Saying that sometinhg is evidence, doesnøt make it so. Your statement clearly demonstrate, that you know nothing about how cells have evolved. It didn't start out with the cells you see know, but simpler cell, built on even simpler biochemical elements.

  • there is a difference in a creator and god. you can be an atheist and believe in a creator. my parents created me so therefore they are creators. now asking for proof of a god is not on par with gravity. i can prove gravity you can not prove god. the evidence that is all around is explained thru biology, chemistry, physics and astronomy without there needing to be a god.

    even if a god did cause everything to happen that did that still doesnt prove your religion either.

  • god is cruel. he commited massive genocide when he flooded the world. he couldve stopped sin but he let it run rampent. his so called 'salvation' is a joke. think about this. a mad scientist makes an atom bomb and plants it in time square. he says that if the people beg and plea to him, he will disarm the bomb. is that your idea of a saviour, stopping something that he not only let happen, but planned! it says in the bible that he plans everything.

  • @13woodsan you actually beleive that bs you people will never know about me ever cause you push me away from you god is a collective that means god is everything and anything all of the (infiniverse) is god/tao/LIFE the bible is a lie wrote by people who didn't even know themselve or god YOU BASTARDIZE GOD AND MAKE A MOCKERY OUT OF ME AND YOU BASTARDIZE YOURSELF you and god are one.

  • @13woodsan "his so called 'salvation' is a joke"......existence is a bitch, get over yourself, even if it's a joke in your case.....lo

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  • @13woodsan He also allows a random shooting happen, lets everyone suffer and die... except one person. He lets that person survive with severe brain damage. That's how God demonstrates that he can perform miracles.

  • Matt you never fall to tweek my mellon!

  • This show has occasional gems, but a lot of the time, it's just people who don't know what they're talking about trying to sound smart.

  • This caller keeps using philosophical buzzwords without actually understanding them. It's really, really annoying.

  • huh?

  • My boy Matt  Dillahunty is wicked smart.

  • yep smart enough to wind up in HELL (now thts real smart)

  • Yeah Pascal's Wager!

    oooooooo I'm realy scared!

  • no the wager reality brother

  • Maybe you're going to hell as a Christian. Atheists might go to heaven. You don't KNOW.

    Pascal's Wager is BS.

  • why do you think there is a hell? do you think god is a horribly cruel and vicious being?

  • the wrath of GOD ALMIGHTY is an awfull thing

  • dont you mean bruce almighty?

    that was a good movie...

    are you threatening me?

  • "The Evolutionary scientists who believe that man existed for over a million years have an almost insurmountable problem.

    The evolutionary theory of a million years of growth would produce trillions trillions trillions trillions of people that should be alive today on our planet. To put this in perspective, this number is vastly greater than the total number of atoms in our vast universe."

  • who told you that bullshit? hahah, and why do you think its a good idea to repeat it, people die.

    and if every couple, has 2 children, the population of man will not grow, if they all have 1 child, it will deminish. what you just wrote is a lie.

  • Also, famine, disease and war/battles lower the number a fair bit.

  • not to mention... "trillions trillions trillions trillions of people" is a bullshit number, and no where near the number of atoms in the universe.. lol thats stupid as hell.

  • That many people with the medicine's and knowledge we have today projected that far back in time, maybe possible, but there's a shit load more atoms than that, agreed.

  • are you serious? do you not understand what organic matter is, and minerals? bodies break down into worm food and dirt.

  • in tons of places, what do you mean?

  • That's just wrong. First off, man (in his present form) has not existed for millions of years. Secondly, this (false) problem is just as applicable to any other creature.

    The reason it is incorrect is because people die. The driving force behind evolution is natural selection. Organisms produce many offspring and some die, the best adapted surviving. In addition, there is no way that one million years of reproduction (even with no death) would produce trillions of organisms.

  • valu, you cannot be serious!

  • yes,his wrath is an awful thinfg! that I have read in the Bible! He condones slavery, murder...thoughout the bible. I cant get with that kind of God!

  • We have done sufficient geological investigation that if there were ever a great flood we would have found evidence for it by now. sorry, but you might as well believe in the tooth fairy. Not saying believing in god is same as tooth fairy, but the great flood is definately a fairy tale.

  • Quoting from a bronze age book of fairy tales isn't going to impress anyone here.

  • hi can you explain! the survival of the fittest why we still have sheep?

    sheep 1 born per year

    wolf 6 born per year (massive out numbering growth for wolf)

    Q1 In the millions of years before mans involvement to farm them why did wolf not eat all sheep?

    Q2 lambs and sheep are easy prey

    why did they evolve in first place

    under natural selection guide lines they should never have evilolved

  • Sending you a PM explaining this.

  • Can't PM you, so put it on channel comments

  • Have you ever looked at a prey-predator population graph? If you have not, it goes something like this. As the population of the prey falls, the population of the predator rises, however peaks at a certain point and begins to fall again and vice versa. If you were to look at a period of this, it sort of looks like an infinty sign.

    So to reiterate, as pop of prey falls, pop of pred rises but peaks at a certrain point and decreases again. Its an inverse relationship.

  • Don't worry. I've found out that all atheists are wrong:

    I've converted to flat earthism.

    I had a personal experience and an intuitive feeling in my stomach. I know this is better than emprirical evdience because I use my intuition all the time.

  • Text: "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the Word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear" (Hebrews 11:1).

  • "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen"

    EXACTLY!

    By your definition you don't even need evidence to believe that god exists. That's ridiculous!

  • substance of things hoped for, the evidence

    cant you read substance means substance , evidence means evidence

  • he is the chosen one, neither can live while the other survives...

    (harry potter and the order of the phoenix)

    JUST BECAUSE ITS IN A BOOK, DOESNT MEAN ITS TRUE!! ANYONE CAN WRITE CRAP DOWN!

    and of course the people that wrote the bible would say " faith is all you need as evidence, believing what we tell you with nothing to back it up is exactly what we want from you. and money... lots and lots of money"

  • not any one can fortell the future

    and the bible dose this

  • thats a contradiction.

    not any one can fly, but super man does...???

    what the hell does that mean?

  • valu777,

    Only if your willing to interpret nonsense.

  • valu, where is your proof that the Bible fortells the future? I can write a book, today, and say things like...there will be war in the Middle East, there will be an Oil shortage in the future, weather will be wierd, etc. These things are just common sense. Give me some specific things that came true!

  • People chose faith so selectively! If "Faith" is such a great thing, then valu777, loan me 10,000 and have faith, I will pay you back. I know you never met me, but have faith. You are a good Christian, fighting the good fight, God would never let me not pay you back! Have Faith! Blindly believe!

  • i would give it to you if i hadit kem

    Taste And See For Yourself

    A person can know the Bible is God's Word by first examining the claims of Scripture, considering the evidence for those claims, and then personally accepting the challenge of Scripture to "taste and see" if these things be true. The psalmist gave the following challenge.

    O taste and see that the Lord is good; how blessed is the one who takes refuge in him (Psalm 34:8).

  • Why didn't your God inform you. I was a devout Christian for 30+ yrs. I know the Bible. I have examined it. I used to believe the Bible fortold things, but it was all brainwashing. There are really no specifics. As far as scripture quoting, miss me! Btw, not sure your age, but there was a cartoon called the Jetsons I watched as a small child, it fortold many things. Many things that were on that show, are now true today!

  • hi what church can i ask ?

  • are you asking me the denomination? My younger years, I was an Apostolic/Pentecostal and later years, non denominational. I read the Bible and asked many questions to my Pastors. When I would stump them, they would say "you don't question God". So, I let it be. I knew nothing else, though it really made no sense to me, I was young and under this impression that if I didnt believe, something bad would happen to me. Once I decided to read history, the facts came to light!

  • Funny how "facts' overwhelm religion and make it mote.

    The Bible is a work of many different imaginative minds of men, if it is the inspired word of god, so is this comment.

    B.S. does not stand for Biblical Scripture, it's bullshit...plain and simple, just stories, nothing more.

  • Hey John, r u in Columbus Oh? I am.

  • Yes, I live near the Polaris Mall, how about you?