Taraf de Haidouks : "Ostinato" music video

[ShaggyAlonso13]

this lot are magical

[gkram212]

this is amazing !

[hpalerm0]

tomá para vos piasola jaja

[glykonjagd]

and most of them don't know to write....fuck mathematics , its all about the soul babyyyy!!!

[SenhordoBonfim]

Brilliant. Inspiring. Colorful. Lively. Festive. Beautiful.

[petricag800]

Traiesc cu totii..dar ala care le baga bani in buzunare..saracu ..din pacate....

[tofantes]

Traiesc, bineinteles in Franta si Oltenia.

[filmcrew1551]

Very Strong

[jovvanny]

mai traiesc oamenii astia cu scuzele de riguoare imi plac la  nebunieee

[acropolis2000silviu]

demni de tot respectul !

[gergelykiss]

this is brilliant beyond imagination! : ) Éljen a Taraf!!! : )

check out the original Bartok piano pieces too, they are a lot of fun!

[saddamXoX]

my favorite part is at 2:39

like father, like son :)

[eikonon]

cea mai incredibila muzica pe care am auzito vreodata! adevarati artisti ai sufletului! dansezi deti ard calcaile!

[alejandro0p0]

I wonder if the people who put this together are aware that Bartok was a strong nationalist who thought gypsies "contaminated" Hungary's folk music..

[gergelykiss]

Bartok was anything but a strong nationalist my friend. In fact he had to flee Hungary because certain strong nationalists took over the government. This is why he died in NYC, as you might well know.

The reason why he wasn't interested in Gypsy music was that he was looking for original ancient melodies - may it be Hungarian, Romanian, Turkish or Arabic. Gypsy musicians altered these melodies considerably through their interpretations.

Don't try to turn Bartok into something he wasn't.

[alejandro0p0]

I guess we haven´t been reading the same articles. Still, you´re entitled to your opinion about Bartok. He was a great composer, but though I did not know the guy personally, from what I know he did not like gypsies...

[alejandro0p0]

@gergelykiss

"What emerges quite strongly from Bartok’s writings is his tendency to maintain a distinction between a 'good' hybrid, or a healthy and authentic hybrid music language, and a 'bad' or potentially degenerative hybrid. At first, the potentially good hybrid was the sought-after fusion of his own art music with folk sources; the bad hybrid was Gypsy music." (Brown, 2000: 123)

[gergelykiss]

@alejandro0p0

Yeah, as Mr. Brown says, for Bartók's purposes of scientific classification folk songs devoid of foreign influences were desirable - the "problems" of not being able to fit them into "patterns" grow with outside influences. The question of good and bad hybrids (i.e. his own use of folk songs and that of Gypsy musicians) is clearly a subjective aesthetic dilemma, it is a question of personal taste, not of nationalism. In fact Bartók took risks in his time being an internationalist!

[alejandro0p0]

@gergelykiss

"When Bartok wrote down his ethnographic findings on ‘authentic’ peasant musics, he frequently held up Gypsy music as a type of negative image. Indeed, his earliest writings portray the Gypsy as the type of blot on the Hungarian musical landscape – an attitude that went beyond simple aesthetic aversion." (Julie Brown: 2000:123)

[gergelykiss]

@alejandro0p0

Well, I respect Ms. Brown's opinion - I also read early Bartók articles and my interpretation of his views differs from hers. In my understanding Bartók was clearly idolizing peasant music (may it be Hungarian, Romanian, Slovak or Arabic) and felt that the urban Gypsy performances of these tunes were somehow non-authentic - which in his mindset meant less valuable. You stated that he was a "strong nationalist" and she states he was a Gypsy-hating bigot - I disagree on both counts.

[alejandro0p0]

@gergelykiss

(Bartok, 1914):“Gypsies pervert melodies, change their rhythm to ‘Gypsy’ rhythm, introduce among the people melodies heard in other regions and in the country seats of the gentry – in other words, they contaminate the style of genuine folk music.”

[gergelykiss]

@alejandro0p0

Do you really need me to explain to you what "contamination" means in this passage? :) Fine. Gypsy musicians learnt tunes in the city - then they played these tunes in the villages, hence they allowed city-music (i.e. magyar nóta) to "contaminate" village-music (i.e. népzene). Simple.

It is undeniably true that Bartók wasn't a fan of the way Gypsy musicians performed Hungarian or Romanian village music. But that doesn't make him a "strong nationalist" as you called him. Got it? :)

[alejandro0p0]

@gergelykiss

"Bartok’s Orientalist troping suggests an extra layer to his cultural anxiety as modern nationalist. The fact that his national music was intimately associated with a people discursively constructed as Oriental was likely to have sat with Bartok’s initial nationalistic project as uncomfortably as the fact that it was an inherent part of the lifestyle of the ruling conservative elite." (Browining, 2000:126)

[gergelykiss]

@alejandro0p0

mate, send me a link to the article :) i'd like to read it. i strongly disagree with the content of the excerpts you are quoting. Bartók got in a lot of trouble for researching Romanian music in post-WWI Hungary - he had to publish his Romanian studies in Bucharest, cause the Hungarian authorities didn't let him do it. He refused to fill out the racial questionnaire the Nazis distributed in Hungary - he refused to call himself "Hungarian." Think about it. He was no nationalist.

[ColonelCognitional]

These are some of the most talented musicians I've ever heard. Brilliant composition and arranging, expressive playing, and there's just the perfect amount of each instrument being heard - like there was one certain brain controlling the whole group. Bravissimo!

[OrdbogDK]

Oh my god that is beautiful.

Especially the part around 0:40.

How can man create such beautiful music? Please visit Denmark :)

[jubemeg]

I only gave it a five star because of the guys face at the start

[tanushinki]

gypsy fire

[LeonidasBasileus]

hahah, awesome, I played this on piano!

[hughtarpaulin]

excellent

[vincentkenis]

this is insanely great