Everything any scientist says is sensationalized by the media.
Use google scholar and learn to use it to hear direct from the scientists instead.
Also look at the flow of money and understand it mirrors the flow of power.
If you Think Exxon, Mobile, Shell ect. want cap and trade, or any recognition global warming is real you are dead wrong. They perhaps want to pervert it for their benefit and monopolize green technology if they cannot stop it, but hope for business as usual
He's a hypocritical piece of shit. He slandered the IPCC and climate scientists for decades, even though they had already proved the fact of anthropogenic global warming (AGW) ten times over already, and we've been fighting for radical action on it since 1990. Now, just because he's finally changed his mind in 2011, Muller thinks he deserve an award?
He deserves to be tortured and executed for the damage he has knowingly done.
A really nice job, Mike Olewski! I find it hard to believe Dr. Miller isn't outraged by, for instance, the WSJ headline. He seems too comfortable for belief.
Also, speaking as a scientist, he doesn't acknowledge his layman's status when it comes to the economic choices involved. Cheap, abundant energy is the foundation of modern civilization. He seems unaware of the trade-offs.
With so many blatant changes we've made to nature in other realms, why does AGW get special scrutiny?
Few would dispute that we cause smog in every major city, or that the oceans are being dredged of fish, or that hundreds of millions of acres of forests have been cleared. You don't hear biologists claiming that "the sixth extinction" isn't our fault.
Why then, would it be improbable that our CO2 output could have big effects on the climate? I think Muller is more political than he lets on.
"Every major city"? What a joke. You don't even know that US industry spent many billions to clean up - and virtually have eliminated the smog from our cities. You are talking about 40+ years ago. In fact, climate scientists are seriously pointing at the smog coming from China as the reason that the global temps have not risen since 1998. In doing so, they admit that it was us cleaning up the smog that was a cause of the warming since 1975 - the beginning of the warming
@TravelerDiogenes, virtually "eliminated" smog from our cities is absurd. Look up "most polluted U.S. cities" and you'll see the problem is far from solved. Population growth has negated earlier gains and fossil fuels can only be made so clean.
Also, the claim that it hasn't warmed since 1998 was based on a cherry-picked starting point in an extreme El Nino year. Look up "NOAA: 2010 Tied For Warmest Year on Record" (along with 2005).
And then there's all that melting ice you probably ignore.
I'm glad his study backfired on the deniers, but he also comes off as arrogant, by claiming in the WSJ: "There were good reasons for doubt, until now."
That statement implies that evidence for AGW was only really confirmed by HIS team, not all those other climatologists who lack his greatness.
It reminds of some future day when Rush Limbaugh is pumping seawater out of his Florida mansion, and tells his radio listeners they need to accept global warming as real because HE finally understands.
First off, by saying "deniers" you are equating them with Holocaust deniers. If so, you show your total ignorance and are insulting those who went through the Holocaust.
Right in part one of this video Muller says (around the 2:45 mark), referring to his recent Wall Street Journal article, Muller says “I never said you shouldn’t be a skeptic. I never said that.”
@TravelerDiogenes, by "deniers" I was referring to the Koch brothers who partly funded it. Pay attention to the whole story. The more I read about Muller (especially his mindless attacks on Al Gore; an easy target), the less I respect his objectivity, but he did a good thing overall with that dataset.
Everything any scientist says is sensationalized by the media.
Use google scholar and learn to use it to hear direct from the scientists instead.
Also look at the flow of money and understand it mirrors the flow of power.
If you Think Exxon, Mobile, Shell ect. want cap and trade, or any recognition global warming is real you are dead wrong. They perhaps want to pervert it for their benefit and monopolize green technology if they cannot stop it, but hope for business as usual
ThereAreNoUnionThugs 1 month ago
Tough shit. AGW deniers are worse than Holocaust deniers.
Holocaust deniers do not CAUSE the Holocaust, which is past.
But AGW deniers DO cause worsening damage from AGW by their delay and interference tactics.
mphello 3 months ago
@mphello And you don't cause global warming getting on your computer and making your holier-than-thou posts.
Dick
flanksteak2 2 months ago
@flanksteak2 Makes no sense, shithead.
mphello 2 months ago
He's a hypocritical piece of shit. He slandered the IPCC and climate scientists for decades, even though they had already proved the fact of anthropogenic global warming (AGW) ten times over already, and we've been fighting for radical action on it since 1990. Now, just because he's finally changed his mind in 2011, Muller thinks he deserve an award?
He deserves to be tortured and executed for the damage he has knowingly done.
mphello 3 months ago
what a coward. Global warming is real. but both sides have a point. WTF!?
shitaye12 3 months ago
A really nice job, Mike Olewski! I find it hard to believe Dr. Miller isn't outraged by, for instance, the WSJ headline. He seems too comfortable for belief.
Also, speaking as a scientist, he doesn't acknowledge his layman's status when it comes to the economic choices involved. Cheap, abundant energy is the foundation of modern civilization. He seems unaware of the trade-offs.
lukelea1 3 months ago
With so many blatant changes we've made to nature in other realms, why does AGW get special scrutiny?
Few would dispute that we cause smog in every major city, or that the oceans are being dredged of fish, or that hundreds of millions of acres of forests have been cleared. You don't hear biologists claiming that "the sixth extinction" isn't our fault.
Why then, would it be improbable that our CO2 output could have big effects on the climate? I think Muller is more political than he lets on.
Antithropocentric 3 months ago
@Antithropocentric -
"Every major city"? What a joke. You don't even know that US industry spent many billions to clean up - and virtually have eliminated the smog from our cities. You are talking about 40+ years ago. In fact, climate scientists are seriously pointing at the smog coming from China as the reason that the global temps have not risen since 1998. In doing so, they admit that it was us cleaning up the smog that was a cause of the warming since 1975 - the beginning of the warming
TravelerDiogenes 3 months ago
@TravelerDiogenes, virtually "eliminated" smog from our cities is absurd. Look up "most polluted U.S. cities" and you'll see the problem is far from solved. Population growth has negated earlier gains and fossil fuels can only be made so clean.
Also, the claim that it hasn't warmed since 1998 was based on a cherry-picked starting point in an extreme El Nino year. Look up "NOAA: 2010 Tied For Warmest Year on Record" (along with 2005).
And then there's all that melting ice you probably ignore.
Antithropocentric 1 week ago
I'm glad his study backfired on the deniers, but he also comes off as arrogant, by claiming in the WSJ: "There were good reasons for doubt, until now."
That statement implies that evidence for AGW was only really confirmed by HIS team, not all those other climatologists who lack his greatness.
It reminds of some future day when Rush Limbaugh is pumping seawater out of his Florida mansion, and tells his radio listeners they need to accept global warming as real because HE finally understands.
Antithropocentric 3 months ago
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vechorik 3 months ago
@Antithropocentric -
Backfired on the "deniers"?
First off, by saying "deniers" you are equating them with Holocaust deniers. If so, you show your total ignorance and are insulting those who went through the Holocaust.
Right in part one of this video Muller says (around the 2:45 mark), referring to his recent Wall Street Journal article, Muller says “I never said you shouldn’t be a skeptic. I never said that.”
Pay attention.
TravelerDiogenes 3 months ago
@TravelerDiogenes, by "deniers" I was referring to the Koch brothers who partly funded it. Pay attention to the whole story. The more I read about Muller (especially his mindless attacks on Al Gore; an easy target), the less I respect his objectivity, but he did a good thing overall with that dataset.
Antithropocentric 3 months ago