These "Mindless Sheep" have been conditioned into believing all that the watchtower society deems as "TRUTH." Blind obedience or you are shunned, which is far worse than an islamic honor killing. When you are disfeffowshipped, you are cast out from "jehova's protection" and his other mindless lambs. Your family turns their backs on you as if you are dead. My parents and some siblings are dead. I never went to their funerals, not because I was not welcome, but because I moved on.
@kathetos1 This statement serves little purpose outside of mocking a valid point. Is it not better to question authority than to submit to it when you are clearly so ignorant of its importance? And even so, when we question doctors, law enforcement and other "experts", they can respond with proven knowledge and experience. Theocracy, on the other hand, is merely a title intended to keep a bewildered herd of followers submissive to the will of another human being in the name of God.
@kathetos1 This statement serves little purpose outside of mocking a valid point. Is it not better to question authority than to submit to it when you are clearly so ignorant of its importance? And even so, when we question doctors, law enforcement and other "experts", they can respond with proven knowledge and experience. Theocracy, on the other hand, is merely a title intended to keep a bewildered herd of followers submissive to the will of another human being in the name of God.
Jesus said there is only one path to the truth...READ Matthew 7:13,14, ..."few are the ones finding it." JW's are the only ones following Jesus Christ today. They are obedient to Jesus when he taught his disciples to preach the good news of God's Kingdom. They follow Matthew 6:9,10, keeping God's name hallowed, or holy, using and honoring his Most Holy Name-JEHOVAH. We are witnesses that Jehovah is God! We keep separate from the world as Jesus taught. READ John 17:16. James 4:4. 1 John 5:19.
@eternityandforever and yet here you are consorting with the rest of the world. I don't begrudge you your stupid beliefs, but if you're going to claim that you're remaining separate and apart from us, you could at least have the courtesy to stop showing up in public to tell us that you're not associating with us.
(remaining separated from society is the defining trait of a cult one notes)
Anyone who is under orders has to obey no matter how loving they appear to be, if a person is under the law of man he will hate who he is told to hate. Look what religious people did too our Lord who came to show hard hearted people what true Love is. People who try to please God and get his favour through religious works and preaching are like whitewashed graves. Outside they appear moral and good but inside they are full of corruption, just quoting our Lord and he never lied.
I find it sad that a group of such wonderful people with hearts of gold are so closed minded, but they are. As this video points out, they do not come to your doorstep to 'share' anything with you. Sharing impies an exchange of ideas and they are forbidden from accepting anything you say, however reasonable, if it's not acceptable to the WT society. They must check their brain at the doorways of Kingdom Hall, which they willingly do. Sorry folks, but I still love 'em, they are not evil.
I ask 2 Jws in my home this question: 'How is the light in the Bible does not change but the light in the WT literature does change?
One replied: 'Because the light in the Bible is basic light and the light in our literature is superior light.' I asked 'How do you know this?' Ans 'It wouldn't be superior if it didn't change'.
since this video is produced by an active member of Jehovah's Witnesses and Jehovah's Winesses are victims of the society and fear and do not think independently then this video is nothing but Watchtower propaganda. Besides even if everything you say is true; so what ?
Jehovah's Witnesses have their religous beliefs as do others if you don't share their views its your perogative. Fallacies occur often so its no surprise that you will find some in the literature;
All your videos have extremely high production value! I just love them! Great voice over on the videos.
But what makes them priceless is the clear logic used to show the WT-Org as a False Prophet. Well done, keep up the great work, I have used your videos to help free and open the mind of one of my dearest friends in the cult, now we are both free. Can not thank you enough!
first off all reilgion is crap but alot of what they said is true most christain leaders are full of crap.the list of hucksters is endless. jim and tammy jimmy sawgart pat robertson jerry falwell come read a book other then the bible find some real truth
"The Truth" is now identified as *the Organization* When a Jehovah's Witness says that he is "in the truth",he means that he is a member of the Organization. And if a person a person shows any criticism of *the Organization* it's the same as *criticising "The Truth".
But it's not "the truth"that is being examined,or criticised at all, it's the Organization.
As you cleverly showed in your video here,the GB seems TO THINK that they personally own the Patent to"The Truth"..DING!
Super Job! I loved it! The Watchtower GB is using the same tactics that they accuse others of using. This video shows perfectly their hypocrisy, by showing from their OWN literature that they are just as guilty, and shows how they, too use LOADED LANGUAGE and attack the messenger instead of examining whether the message is true.
Concerning the Memorial.Jesus said "keep doing this until I come". JW are*still doing it*. Showing that he hasn't yet given the WTS his "belongings" nor authority.
It used to be that the Catholics, the Orthodox churches, were the only ones who persecuted their own church members over doctrine, but NOW THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY DOES IT.
My advice to you is to FIRST do a personal and prayerful reading and studying of the Bible before you EVEN think of getting baptized AS A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS. You should wonder why JW speak of their baptism this way.
The CORRECT way when speaking of baptism is to say that you are getting baptized AS A CHRISTIAN.
Wow too bad the people wo make this video dont mention that apostacy is mentioned many times in the bible and we are specifically warned to watch for it, JW's did not make up the word Apostates, Your video has many misleading statements, as all of them do. And the truth is based on the scriptures, and our interpertation of it. Man is fallible and so is our judgement at times
Since the GB now teaches that Jesus doesn't actually COME back to the earth, and the separation of the sheep and the goats is FUTURE, then how can they CLAIM that Jesus CAME and personally COMMENDED the "slave class" and put them in charge of all of his personal belongings? LIke WHEN did this happen? Since Jesus hasn't returned yet, and he isn't going to?
What PROOF is there that Jesus gave TO them all his belongings? What exactly did he SAY TO THEM? He hasn't spoken to them.
Its what frustrated me the most growing up and becoming one of Jehovah's Witnesses. The circular reasoning never stops you just spin and spin. I never liked the feeling that you were being persuaded to be a Witness or to believe the Only way. This Video could not be said any better its right on the mark.
this video is very good its more like a wake up call....but its for the person to decide wether or not they r goin to accept the things u have said.....they truly r wolves in sheep clothing...they may look like christains and soud like one but in reality they r not its just a distortion of the truth
EXCELLENT! I loved it! Absolutely true! By using terminology that has been given derrogatory implications by the WTS, the JW is trained to turn his or her mind off to anything that is said by anyone who is classified by the terminology. This is particularly true of "apostates" & "Christendom". And, as usual, they have given their own definitions to the terms. An apostate would be one who turns his back on GOD, not one who merely defects from the WTS! If anything, "apostates" can now serve GOD!!
This video is 'aces' in my book. Not only will I look out for those fallacies while talking to cultists about religion, but I will also listen out for them in every conversation, debate, or arguement.
2. Some points. I think if you dig deeper you will find that the WTBS thinks the 'faithful and discreet slave class', have more collective wisdom. They, as a class, not individuals, are directed by holy spirit. A mis-direction and mis-quote by WTcomment. Why? To decieve you. Not to change any Jehovah's Witnesses minds. The WTBS never uses 'deceptive' language. What would be the point with millions of magnifying glasses on their literature. They meant to label apostates. THEY'RE APOSTATES!!!
niborn- If you dont mind can you answer me a question ? If guided by the holy spirit then why so many mistakes and new light? Can the holy spirit fail or be wrong ? And did you know the word apostate means nothing it is a man made label intended to demean a person who feels your religion is ridiculus as I do, hahahah Im an apostate I'm an a apostate. Who cares !!!!
1. Slick production and use of language. If anyone watching this is swayed because of the 'logic' or 'reasoning' presented then you need to switch on your brain and examine the religion yourself. Yes, actually do what the producer of this video must have done. Go get the literature and read it for yourself. Check out the many references found in the pages of the Watchtower literature. See if what he is quoting is correct. Make sure WTcomments is telling you the truth about Jehovah's Witnesses.
@nibornagrom - Already done it. Any educated, truly astute and discerning person can easily see through the brain-training, self-aggrandizing tactics in the literature. It's there for all to see.
It's amazing despite the overwhelming evidence against the WTBTS, devoute self righteous JWs come on here yelling apostate, false claims, blah, blah with nothing to support the contrary.
kathelos, I am going to ask you to stop commenting. People will think I pay you to post these comments in order to smear Witnesses. I should warn you that your "witness" is only furthering my cause.
"sorry about the irony my friend but is the only weapon i have left...."
The difference between the biblical heroes and the Watchtower is that when Noah built the ark the flood came. The Watchtower has so many failed prophecies and doctrinal flip-flops. Numbers 23:19."God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?" The record of the organizations' past outcomes speak for themselves. And not in a good way.
"All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the "greatly diversified wisdom of God" can become known only through Jehovah's channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave."-WT 10/1/1994 p 8
"The Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible."-WT 10/1/67 p 587
"People are afraid of what their neighbors, their friends, relatives and clergy might think if they were even so much as to read the Bible on their own."
Please site your source, that's pretty far fetched.
I would recommend viewers form their own opinion based on the comparitive quotes in the video. Witnesses can be DISFELLOWSHIPPED if they are "questioning the counsel that is provided by God's visible organization." (WT 1/15/83 p.22) Sounds like mind control to me.
If you watch the video you will notice that I ONLY use quotes from Watchtower publications to prove the use of mind control in other WT publications. If that is bashing the WT, I'm not to blame. "Hypocrite"...another personal attack. Care to argue the merits of the video?
The WTS is one arch deciever in the world today. Im happy for you that you are watching these videos, I hope it helps you escape from the deception. Its easy to rationalize it away with WTS propaganda because to real truth hurts. Keep listening and I hope you eventually escape. Peace.
Bravo, great video. Now that I am out of the "truth" (ding) for seeing it for what it truly is. It's amazing how many scriptures warn people to stay away from groups like WT. In the WT study edition they have bold faced lied about scriptures and what they say even when it says the opposite... and everyone just eats it up. The only ones who speak "twisted things, half truths and lies" is the Bethel writing dept. and not the so called apostates. In any case more more more videos I can't wait.
You mean the positions like the soul, trinity, and the other "beliefs" that the Witnesses got from Second Adventists? Uh-oh, you probably didn't know that either, did you?
Why don't we discuss the validity of the video? I cannot destroy what JWs believe, it is up to them to make up their minds on the information available.
I am not interested in telling you what to think. I do hope to show HOW to think. In that way you are truly free to believe. If you are looking for another leader, look inside.
To continue, also to note every individual gets train to sell or in modern times promote more of their published literature,this labor was of course done volunteer for free. This unfortuatly wasn't always the way it was done back in Russell's time the magazines and books were bought by true door to door salesmen who tried to make money in doing so by putting a mark up value on every piece of literature. So you can see the WTS started as a real business and not a non-profit organization.
It seems in every growing and expanding business where the structural engineers are living off the proceeds of that business, there seems to always be an inward need or desire for more money, not only for personal needs but to also help the business grow and in this case it was world wide.Essentially ever person to come into the flock brought more and more power placed in the hands who ever stood on top of the tower. Also every person brought in had the potential to be one of their free workers
How the power is manifested is not the issue. These videos prove that mind-control is in place. Wielding that influence over seven million people can get you a lot of things, if not fill the bank accounts of the Watchtower Society.
How can you say the Governing Body does not benefit? They live in penthouses in the best part of Brooklyn, are flown all over the world and treated as royalty where ever they go. The best financial trick an individual can play is to remain separate from the income available to them.
This is not an "appeal to fear," it is a FACT. I challenge you to go to your elders and show them your posts. What do you think their reaction will be?
The Watchtower was rated one of the top 40 companies in NYC in terms of revenue, bringing in 951 million dollars per year. In addition they hold 200 BILLION dollars in real estate. For a small organization they are very financially shrewd. Yet when Franz left he had almost no bank account, no place to live, no pension plan to support himself after a lifetime of dedication to the organization. Hmmn... Salvation is by personal relationship with God, not membership in an organization.
Thank you for posting, but the language barrier is in the way of your point. Can you clarify? These are the last few days of your ability to question the doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses. Once you are baptized you could be disfellowshipped if you insist on viewing information like this or even discuss "apostate" thoughts. Are you sure you want to hand over your mind like that?
Looks like you are the Watchtower's target audience. Might want to revisit basic sentence structure and grammer before your door-to-door presentation.
Heck, if they had everything absolutely perfect in their literature and beliefs that would mean that they were perfect, but no one is perfect yet. Knowledge, even knowledge of God doesn't come in a linear fashion. God has used imperfect people to carry out his purposes. In my opinion most of what other religions teach is far, far, far more full of theological holes than what the Witnesses teach. I am not a Witness and never have been.
infosurf, since you are not a JW, let me add this critical factor to your argument. The religion will DISFELLOWSHIP members who do not believe as they do. JWs do not have a "linear fashion" of knowledge. Indeed, the record resembles a logical pretzle that JWs are forced to follow without dissent. That's the mind control exposed in these videos.
Yes,you are. About "imperfect people":This is JW-double-talk. They have claimed MANY times thruout the years to be "Jehovahs inspired prophet on earth in the last days".If you keep spreading lies like that,I`m gonna have to post them.
And does that mean Jehovah's Witnesses haven't gotten anything right? Witnesses who know the ins-and-outs of their doctrinal shifts concentrate on the things that have stood the test of time. In my opinion many things they've taught have stood up to scrutiny and those things that haven't are being reexamined and reexplained.
Infosurf .... Oh, yeah, it's ok for the Witnesses to teach false doctrine, ("docrinal shifts") but why don't they ALSO give some SLACK to the other churches who also have "doctrinal shifts"? But no! They accuse them of being "professed Christians" because they, too teach some error. So basically to prejudge others as being a "professed Christian", on the bases of their errors, is the SAME as the Governing Body judging themselves as "professed Christians" because they, too. teach error.
Neither they, as individuals, nor their leaders have ever really claimed to be 'inspired' - in contrast to the Mormon leadership, for instance. Witnesses have sometimes overstated their conclusions in their interpretations of Biblical prophecy, at times, throughout their history, yes, but that's all I've been able to garner from their literature. Their theologians at Bethel are still trying to figure things out things. What's wrong with that?
"Those who do not read can hear, for God has on earth today a prophetlike organization, just as he did in the days of the early Christian congregation." Watchtower 1964 Oct. 1 p.601
They are free to figure out whatever they want to about theology, as long as no one is injured for following them. They are not free to coerce kids into refusing blood transfusions. They are also not free to cover up pedophilia just to keep "Jehovah's name" clean.
What is wrong, is that they have been repeatedly wrong on their proclaimed "truths" about the bible. They have gone against what the bible says, that "no one, NOT EVEN THE SON, knows the day or hour" of Armageddon. Yet, numerous times they have published the date, and admonished followers to not get married, or have children because THE END IS NIGH. And what about those that honestly want to worship God, yet don't believe everything the WTBS teaches? They get DF'd and lose their family.
I'll tell you what's "wrong" with it. Seeing that they now claim no inspiration, then they should STOP claiming to be "the Channel God is using to provide food at "the proper time" on His table".
Also, they contradict Jesus' own words. Jesus said that he IS COMING. He has been given King David's throne. This is an earthly throne. The GB now teach that Jesus IS NOT COMING but is staying up in heaven to rule from there. Where are the Scriptures to support this? There IS NONE.Matt. 24:30
Sure there are issues with JW theology, eschatology and history which they need to deal with by refining their doctrines, which they've been doing - and yes there have been immature conclusions published in their literature, but that doesn't change the fact that Armageddon is around the corner (by which I mean tomorrow, next year, 20 years from now, 100 years from now, 200 years from now). Now matter how you slice it or dice it we ARE living in the 'end times'.
The purpose of this video is to point out how the Watchtower uses propaganda, the very same techniques they decry in other issues of their own magazines. This is double-speak and condemns their own methods.
Ha ha,and you claim to not be a JW? That is BS!I was raised in your shitty cult,and your jw-ism is all thru your way of presenting your arguments,your language,your thought.I can spot it a mile away.You ARE a jehovahs witness,probably one in a high position,posting here under false flag,laying out a smoke screen to make your religion look better.Take your "theocratic warfare" somewhere else.
I've never been one of Jehovah's Witnesses, so that nullifies your inaccurate assertions regarding me and what I'm about - plain and simple. More importantly, WTComments or the people/person behind the WTComments videos says he's an active member.
If we were to say: "The Bible is truly the inspired word of God but all other religious texts are false and not from God and are of no lasting value and actually are products of the Devil and God's wrath is upon those who believe such false religious texts if they don't change their beliefs" (as many reading this would agree), wouldn't we be setting up ourselves for the following: "You Bible believers make sweeping generalizations, using loaded language and fear fostering techniques?"
Propaganda is everywhere, especially in advertising. Fallacy becomes dangerous when it is used to bind minds in unswerving devotion to a group of imperfect men, in this case the Governing Body. Very few religions take such severe measures against dissenters as JWs do. Any such group begs scrutiny.
"How can you be critical of the truth?" Excellent point. I love how you show the text of 1 John 4:1, after that. Priceless!
Yeah, we have no real idea of what the Governing Body bases their ideas on - we only have what they give us. So, basically, they're not being straightforward with us. I guess they think we can't handle the truth.
As an aside, I noticed how they have a "token-black-guy" in the Governing Body when you showed their picture.
I like the new sound effects, V, and how you made sure to differentiate the word "truth" from JW Truth®. You're really improving your craft on these videos. Great job as always!
I can't thk u enough for posting the videos-my spouse is now a JW & ur videos & JWD has helped me tremendously in learning what the WTS is all about. WHAT MANIPULATORS!! My spouse is no longer the person I married-he is under THEIR control. Don't know how to reach him(I am christian & know the bible so he can't deceive me)I no longer trust him or believe him (we have kids & must always be on the alert-is that pathetic or what?)Sorry for rant,I just wanted to thk you very much for ur videos
The videos are designed to be watched by JWs and "should" be reasonable to them because we only source Watchtower publications. Challenge your husband to watch a video or two and get his opinion (no personal attacks allowed!) on the material. I'm a married JW too, so I understand...
Very informative V, well done again your videos are really helping people see the corruption and deceit of this very damaging cult, thanks for all your work on this !
Excellent! I continue to attend meetings for personal reasons, but thanks to your videos, reading a Watchtower publication will never be the same, I can clearly see your points! And the best part is that we are talking about their own literature, not apostate writings. Thanks again! Keep up the Good Work!
Wow....Um....that's all I really have to say is WOW! I wish everyone could see this video. The use of Fallacies in any part of an article discredits the entire writing if you ask me. I wonder if there is one article without the use of at least one fallacy. Is Loaded Language a fallacy or a cult property...or both?
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These "Mindless Sheep" have been conditioned into believing all that the watchtower society deems as "TRUTH." Blind obedience or you are shunned, which is far worse than an islamic honor killing. When you are disfeffowshipped, you are cast out from "jehova's protection" and his other mindless lambs. Your family turns their backs on you as if you are dead. My parents and some siblings are dead. I never went to their funerals, not because I was not welcome, but because I moved on.
jonathonlb 3 weeks ago
Thats why all people will attack and hate them at the end of the days
MrQuad4w41 2 months ago
Oh no! A religion is spewing dogmatic crap! Who would have known?
Mornys 3 months ago
Triple "like." As always, excellent videos. Thanks!
marvfay 5 months ago
The video is well thought out. Thank you.
torrents4u2c 7 months ago
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@kathetos1 This statement serves little purpose outside of mocking a valid point. Is it not better to question authority than to submit to it when you are clearly so ignorant of its importance? And even so, when we question doctors, law enforcement and other "experts", they can respond with proven knowledge and experience. Theocracy, on the other hand, is merely a title intended to keep a bewildered herd of followers submissive to the will of another human being in the name of God.
silverscreenninja 9 months ago
@kathetos1 This statement serves little purpose outside of mocking a valid point. Is it not better to question authority than to submit to it when you are clearly so ignorant of its importance? And even so, when we question doctors, law enforcement and other "experts", they can respond with proven knowledge and experience. Theocracy, on the other hand, is merely a title intended to keep a bewildered herd of followers submissive to the will of another human being in the name of God.
silverscreenninja 9 months ago
Jesus said there is only one path to the truth...READ Matthew 7:13,14, ..."few are the ones finding it." JW's are the only ones following Jesus Christ today. They are obedient to Jesus when he taught his disciples to preach the good news of God's Kingdom. They follow Matthew 6:9,10, keeping God's name hallowed, or holy, using and honoring his Most Holy Name-JEHOVAH. We are witnesses that Jehovah is God! We keep separate from the world as Jesus taught. READ John 17:16. James 4:4. 1 John 5:19.
eternityandforever 10 months ago
@eternityandforever and yet here you are consorting with the rest of the world. I don't begrudge you your stupid beliefs, but if you're going to claim that you're remaining separate and apart from us, you could at least have the courtesy to stop showing up in public to tell us that you're not associating with us.
(remaining separated from society is the defining trait of a cult one notes)
integralmath 3 months ago
All you asshole jehovah's witnesses that want to argue can go and SUPER FUCK YOUR GOD!
Have a nice day and same my name to someone you love today.
SuperFuckyourgod 11 months ago
Your good. You launch bombs on this organization. Only the blind can't see. Even worse, because they choose to be blind!
Asoldier1844 1 year ago
how come at the end of your great vids it says "produced by an active member of JWs"?
IoSonoIoProprioIo 1 year ago
Anyone who is under orders has to obey no matter how loving they appear to be, if a person is under the law of man he will hate who he is told to hate. Look what religious people did too our Lord who came to show hard hearted people what true Love is. People who try to please God and get his favour through religious works and preaching are like whitewashed graves. Outside they appear moral and good but inside they are full of corruption, just quoting our Lord and he never lied.
utobsite 1 year ago
I find it sad that a group of such wonderful people with hearts of gold are so closed minded, but they are. As this video points out, they do not come to your doorstep to 'share' anything with you. Sharing impies an exchange of ideas and they are forbidden from accepting anything you say, however reasonable, if it's not acceptable to the WT society. They must check their brain at the doorways of Kingdom Hall, which they willingly do. Sorry folks, but I still love 'em, they are not evil.
traycox01 1 year ago
I ask 2 Jws in my home this question: 'How is the light in the Bible does not change but the light in the WT literature does change?
One replied: 'Because the light in the Bible is basic light and the light in our literature is superior light.' I asked 'How do you know this?' Ans 'It wouldn't be superior if it didn't change'.
napsuta 1 year ago
since this video is produced by an active member of Jehovah's Witnesses and Jehovah's Winesses are victims of the society and fear and do not think independently then this video is nothing but Watchtower propaganda. Besides even if everything you say is true; so what ?
Jehovah's Witnesses have their religous beliefs as do others if you don't share their views its your perogative. Fallacies occur often so its no surprise that you will find some in the literature;
OriginalJoseyWales 1 year ago
The Watch Tower should be renamed the Lost Tower.
Gjon777 1 year ago
Made by an *active* member? WTF! Shouldn't be an apostate by now? You clearly do too much independant thinking.
I love the Registered Trademark ding. It's impossible to reject 'the Truth" now, isn't it kids?
shockadelicaustralia 1 year ago
All your videos have extremely high production value! I just love them! Great voice over on the videos.
But what makes them priceless is the clear logic used to show the WT-Org as a False Prophet. Well done, keep up the great work, I have used your videos to help free and open the mind of one of my dearest friends in the cult, now we are both free. Can not thank you enough!
3Mozzies 1 year ago
great work wtcomments, keep the punches rolling, because this Giant is going to hit the floor...
Elijahreturns1 1 year ago
wow...read a book other than the bible???? great advice.
Ecsitaly91 1 year ago
Superb video! I also love your voice. :)
darkpersianuk 2 years ago
first off all reilgion is crap but alot of what they said is true most christain leaders are full of crap.the list of hucksters is endless. jim and tammy jimmy sawgart pat robertson jerry falwell come read a book other then the bible find some real truth
alltiedup217 2 years ago
Another thing:
"The Truth" is now identified as *the Organization* When a Jehovah's Witness says that he is "in the truth",he means that he is a member of the Organization. And if a person a person shows any criticism of *the Organization* it's the same as *criticising "The Truth".
But it's not "the truth"that is being examined,or criticised at all, it's the Organization.
As you cleverly showed in your video here,the GB seems TO THINK that they personally own the Patent to"The Truth"..DING!
Anchor707 2 years ago 3
Super Job! I loved it! The Watchtower GB is using the same tactics that they accuse others of using. This video shows perfectly their hypocrisy, by showing from their OWN literature that they are just as guilty, and shows how they, too use LOADED LANGUAGE and attack the messenger instead of examining whether the message is true.
Concerning the Memorial.Jesus said "keep doing this until I come". JW are*still doing it*. Showing that he hasn't yet given the WTS his "belongings" nor authority.
Anchor707 2 years ago 4
god bless ya, soo true!
1962islander 2 years ago
It used to be that the Catholics, the Orthodox churches, were the only ones who persecuted their own church members over doctrine, but NOW THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY DOES IT.
Anchor707 2 years ago
Hello kathetos1....
Baptized INTO Christ? Or INTO the Organization?
My advice to you is to FIRST do a personal and prayerful reading and studying of the Bible before you EVEN think of getting baptized AS A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS. You should wonder why JW speak of their baptism this way.
The CORRECT way when speaking of baptism is to say that you are getting baptized AS A CHRISTIAN.
Anchor707 2 years ago
Lemme guess you are sponsored by the catholic church.
dajhrm 2 years ago
Wow too bad the people wo make this video dont mention that apostacy is mentioned many times in the bible and we are specifically warned to watch for it, JW's did not make up the word Apostates, Your video has many misleading statements, as all of them do. And the truth is based on the scriptures, and our interpertation of it. Man is fallible and so is our judgement at times
dajhrm 2 years ago
dajhrm,
Since the GB now teaches that Jesus doesn't actually COME back to the earth, and the separation of the sheep and the goats is FUTURE, then how can they CLAIM that Jesus CAME and personally COMMENDED the "slave class" and put them in charge of all of his personal belongings? LIke WHEN did this happen? Since Jesus hasn't returned yet, and he isn't going to?
What PROOF is there that Jesus gave TO them all his belongings? What exactly did he SAY TO THEM? He hasn't spoken to them.
Anchor707 2 years ago
Its what frustrated me the most growing up and becoming one of Jehovah's Witnesses. The circular reasoning never stops you just spin and spin. I never liked the feeling that you were being persuaded to be a Witness or to believe the Only way. This Video could not be said any better its right on the mark.
4getJLG 2 years ago 3
True dat Braddah!
blueyz424 2 years ago
Brilliant ending
ccappell1 3 years ago
JW religion is a CULT any way you slice it. Only a blind fool could not see it.
bj616 3 years ago 2
this video is very good its more like a wake up call....but its for the person to decide wether or not they r goin to accept the things u have said.....they truly r wolves in sheep clothing...they may look like christains and soud like one but in reality they r not its just a distortion of the truth
shonekaakaneika 3 years ago
"The Truth" ding!
Good one!
cuttysark9712 3 years ago
Nicely done
dagmastr3 3 years ago
thnx so much 4 video its all true
saturndesign07 3 years ago
I was a JW for 20 years. I know first hand how the watchtower operates. This video is correct about the Watchtower.
odinbat 3 years ago 3
Hey, odinbat, me too! I was in it for 50 years! They have ALWAYS used LOADED LANGUAGE,
Anchor707 2 years ago
"The Truth" ding!
Tavlo 3 years ago 2
Brilliant ! Well done!
krissy4nik 3 years ago
These vids are great!!! Keep it up!!! :D
Redclif101 3 years ago 6
Every time that 'R' on "The Truth" dings it cracks me up. LOL =))
Redclif101 3 years ago 5
Thanks a mil for posting these vids, I hope many will listen and begin to question that movement. Its difficult but well worth in the end.
Ahouseisnotahome 3 years ago 3
EXCELLENT! I loved it! Absolutely true! By using terminology that has been given derrogatory implications by the WTS, the JW is trained to turn his or her mind off to anything that is said by anyone who is classified by the terminology. This is particularly true of "apostates" & "Christendom". And, as usual, they have given their own definitions to the terms. An apostate would be one who turns his back on GOD, not one who merely defects from the WTS! If anything, "apostates" can now serve GOD!!
Simon61161 3 years ago 3
This video is 'aces' in my book. Not only will I look out for those fallacies while talking to cultists about religion, but I will also listen out for them in every conversation, debate, or arguement.
Thanks, christopher
james3v6 3 years ago
2. Some points. I think if you dig deeper you will find that the WTBS thinks the 'faithful and discreet slave class', have more collective wisdom. They, as a class, not individuals, are directed by holy spirit. A mis-direction and mis-quote by WTcomment. Why? To decieve you. Not to change any Jehovah's Witnesses minds. The WTBS never uses 'deceptive' language. What would be the point with millions of magnifying glasses on their literature. They meant to label apostates. THEY'RE APOSTATES!!!
nibornagrom 3 years ago
"A mis-direction and mis-quote" Um, since the video only quotes WT literature, how am I deceiving?
Regarding labeling "apostates," the video speaks for itself, and so does the Awake! magazine on propaganda. I don't make this stuff up...
WTComments 3 years ago 4
niborn- If you dont mind can you answer me a question ? If guided by the holy spirit then why so many mistakes and new light? Can the holy spirit fail or be wrong ? And did you know the word apostate means nothing it is a man made label intended to demean a person who feels your religion is ridiculus as I do, hahahah Im an apostate I'm an a apostate. Who cares !!!!
Meadowgirl040807 3 years ago 2
niibornagrom .........Yeah, right. Same old JW behavior which is to *attack the messenger* and ignore the message. LOL! Good job.
Anchor707 2 years ago
1. Slick production and use of language. If anyone watching this is swayed because of the 'logic' or 'reasoning' presented then you need to switch on your brain and examine the religion yourself. Yes, actually do what the producer of this video must have done. Go get the literature and read it for yourself. Check out the many references found in the pages of the Watchtower literature. See if what he is quoting is correct. Make sure WTcomments is telling you the truth about Jehovah's Witnesses.
nibornagrom 3 years ago
Viewers are more than welcome to check the validity of its quotes. That's why all references are listed.
WTComments 3 years ago 2
A JW telling others to "switch on your brain".....NOW THAT'S COMEDY!
NewJerusalem1979 3 years ago 7
@nibornagrom - Already done it. Any educated, truly astute and discerning person can easily see through the brain-training, self-aggrandizing tactics in the literature. It's there for all to see.
Pwyrdan 1 year ago
It's amazing despite the overwhelming evidence against the WTBTS, devoute self righteous JWs come on here yelling apostate, false claims, blah, blah with nothing to support the contrary.
GREAT VID V!!!
ah0386 3 years ago 2
I find the WT's double standards quite sickening. Thanks for the great vid!
spitandsawdust 3 years ago
One word to describe this video: WOW! Great work! Well done! Super!
MrKattt 3 years ago 2
kathelos, I am going to ask you to stop commenting. People will think I pay you to post these comments in order to smear Witnesses. I should warn you that your "witness" is only furthering my cause.
"sorry about the irony my friend but is the only weapon i have left...."
Apparently.
WTComments 3 years ago
There is an difference between law enforcement and THOUGHT police. A judge cannot 'control brains' by sending someone to jail.
WTComments 3 years ago
The difference between the biblical heroes and the Watchtower is that when Noah built the ark the flood came. The Watchtower has so many failed prophecies and doctrinal flip-flops. Numbers 23:19."God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?" The record of the organizations' past outcomes speak for themselves. And not in a good way.
rachelbinto 3 years ago
Are Witnesses to "read the Bible on their own"?
"All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the "greatly diversified wisdom of God" can become known only through Jehovah's channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave."-WT 10/1/1994 p 8
"The Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible."-WT 10/1/67 p 587
WTComments 3 years ago
"People are afraid of what their neighbors, their friends, relatives and clergy might think if they were even so much as to read the Bible on their own."
Please site your source, that's pretty far fetched.
WTComments 3 years ago
I would recommend viewers form their own opinion based on the comparitive quotes in the video. Witnesses can be DISFELLOWSHIPPED if they are "questioning the counsel that is provided by God's visible organization." (WT 1/15/83 p.22) Sounds like mind control to me.
WTComments 3 years ago
"of course if someone tears down a false belief i think that yes he must have an alternative and logical explenation"
NOT TRUE. 2+2=5? Incorrect. I do not have to state the correct answer, anyone who understands math can figure the rest out.
WTComments 3 years ago
If we can agree that the video show the Governing Body is trying to control thought, I have made my point.
WTComments 3 years ago
Thank you for your comment. Do you think what the WT said about Irish Catholics applies to the way Witnesses are controlled today?
WTComments 3 years ago
If you watch the video you will notice that I ONLY use quotes from Watchtower publications to prove the use of mind control in other WT publications. If that is bashing the WT, I'm not to blame. "Hypocrite"...another personal attack. Care to argue the merits of the video?
WTComments 3 years ago
The WTS is one arch deciever in the world today. Im happy for you that you are watching these videos, I hope it helps you escape from the deception. Its easy to rationalize it away with WTS propaganda because to real truth hurts. Keep listening and I hope you eventually escape. Peace.
Nimzomyth68 3 years ago
Bravo, great video. Now that I am out of the "truth" (ding) for seeing it for what it truly is. It's amazing how many scriptures warn people to stay away from groups like WT. In the WT study edition they have bold faced lied about scriptures and what they say even when it says the opposite... and everyone just eats it up. The only ones who speak "twisted things, half truths and lies" is the Bethel writing dept. and not the so called apostates. In any case more more more videos I can't wait.
icandynetwork 3 years ago
Another personal attack. When will someone argue the merits of the video?
WTComments 3 years ago
You mean the positions like the soul, trinity, and the other "beliefs" that the Witnesses got from Second Adventists? Uh-oh, you probably didn't know that either, did you?
NewJerusalem1979 3 years ago
Why don't we discuss the validity of the video? I cannot destroy what JWs believe, it is up to them to make up their minds on the information available.
WTComments 3 years ago
I am not interested in telling you what to think. I do hope to show HOW to think. In that way you are truly free to believe. If you are looking for another leader, look inside.
WTComments 3 years ago
hhahhahahah...you idiot!
james77korea 3 years ago
To continue, also to note every individual gets train to sell or in modern times promote more of their published literature,this labor was of course done volunteer for free. This unfortuatly wasn't always the way it was done back in Russell's time the magazines and books were bought by true door to door salesmen who tried to make money in doing so by putting a mark up value on every piece of literature. So you can see the WTS started as a real business and not a non-profit organization.
coolsmith241 3 years ago
It seems in every growing and expanding business where the structural engineers are living off the proceeds of that business, there seems to always be an inward need or desire for more money, not only for personal needs but to also help the business grow and in this case it was world wide.Essentially ever person to come into the flock brought more and more power placed in the hands who ever stood on top of the tower. Also every person brought in had the potential to be one of their free workers
coolsmith241 3 years ago
Fancinating interpretation of fallacy, I encourage you to keep studying that...
WTComments 3 years ago
Ever wonder why the Watchtower Society, claiming to be a non-profit organization, does not publicize its financial records? Big question, that.
WTComments 3 years ago
How the power is manifested is not the issue. These videos prove that mind-control is in place. Wielding that influence over seven million people can get you a lot of things, if not fill the bank accounts of the Watchtower Society.
WTComments 3 years ago
How can you say the Governing Body does not benefit? They live in penthouses in the best part of Brooklyn, are flown all over the world and treated as royalty where ever they go. The best financial trick an individual can play is to remain separate from the income available to them.
WTComments 3 years ago
This is not an "appeal to fear," it is a FACT. I challenge you to go to your elders and show them your posts. What do you think their reaction will be?
WTComments 3 years ago
The Watchtower was rated one of the top 40 companies in NYC in terms of revenue, bringing in 951 million dollars per year. In addition they hold 200 BILLION dollars in real estate. For a small organization they are very financially shrewd. Yet when Franz left he had almost no bank account, no place to live, no pension plan to support himself after a lifetime of dedication to the organization. Hmmn... Salvation is by personal relationship with God, not membership in an organization.
rachelbinto 3 years ago
Thank you for posting, but the language barrier is in the way of your point. Can you clarify? These are the last few days of your ability to question the doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses. Once you are baptized you could be disfellowshipped if you insist on viewing information like this or even discuss "apostate" thoughts. Are you sure you want to hand over your mind like that?
WTComments 3 years ago
Looks like you are the Watchtower's target audience. Might want to revisit basic sentence structure and grammer before your door-to-door presentation.
NewJerusalem1979 3 years ago
Another great video, thanks.
These videos expose the WTBTS for what it really is. They are truly "Captive to a Concept".
Keep up the good work.
awb17a 3 years ago 2
Heck, if they had everything absolutely perfect in their literature and beliefs that would mean that they were perfect, but no one is perfect yet. Knowledge, even knowledge of God doesn't come in a linear fashion. God has used imperfect people to carry out his purposes. In my opinion most of what other religions teach is far, far, far more full of theological holes than what the Witnesses teach. I am not a Witness and never have been.
infosurf 3 years ago
infosurf, since you are not a JW, let me add this critical factor to your argument. The religion will DISFELLOWSHIP members who do not believe as they do. JWs do not have a "linear fashion" of knowledge. Indeed, the record resembles a logical pretzle that JWs are forced to follow without dissent. That's the mind control exposed in these videos.
WTComments 3 years ago
Yes,you are. About "imperfect people":This is JW-double-talk. They have claimed MANY times thruout the years to be "Jehovahs inspired prophet on earth in the last days".If you keep spreading lies like that,I`m gonna have to post them.
NormaJe4n 3 years ago
It's not about theological holes or differences in interpretation. The JWs use their faithful and discreet SLAVE members to MAKE SHIT UP.
After they have made it up, they inform the MASSES of their new RULES and say that it is God's WILL that they make up these rules.
Oh wait, then they say you will be KICKED OUT if you don't OBEY, whether the command is based on the Bible or not.
trappedwarrior 3 years ago 4
does anyone else hear "scibes and pharasees" ringing?
ralema567 3 years ago 3
And does that mean Jehovah's Witnesses haven't gotten anything right? Witnesses who know the ins-and-outs of their doctrinal shifts concentrate on the things that have stood the test of time. In my opinion many things they've taught have stood up to scrutiny and those things that haven't are being reexamined and reexplained.
infosurf 3 years ago
"Many things they've taught have stood up to scrutiny" Please elaborate...
WTComments 3 years ago
What things do they teach that "stand up to scrutiny"?
trappedwarrior 3 years ago
Infosurf .... Oh, yeah, it's ok for the Witnesses to teach false doctrine, ("docrinal shifts") but why don't they ALSO give some SLACK to the other churches who also have "doctrinal shifts"? But no! They accuse them of being "professed Christians" because they, too teach some error. So basically to prejudge others as being a "professed Christian", on the bases of their errors, is the SAME as the Governing Body judging themselves as "professed Christians" because they, too. teach error.
Anchor707 2 years ago
Neither they, as individuals, nor their leaders have ever really claimed to be 'inspired' - in contrast to the Mormon leadership, for instance. Witnesses have sometimes overstated their conclusions in their interpretations of Biblical prophecy, at times, throughout their history, yes, but that's all I've been able to garner from their literature. Their theologians at Bethel are still trying to figure things out things. What's wrong with that?
infosurf 3 years ago
"Those who do not read can hear, for God has on earth today a prophetlike organization, just as he did in the days of the early Christian congregation." Watchtower 1964 Oct. 1 p.601
They are free to figure out whatever they want to about theology, as long as no one is injured for following them. They are not free to coerce kids into refusing blood transfusions. They are also not free to cover up pedophilia just to keep "Jehovah's name" clean.
JBSauce 3 years ago
What is wrong, is that they have been repeatedly wrong on their proclaimed "truths" about the bible. They have gone against what the bible says, that "no one, NOT EVEN THE SON, knows the day or hour" of Armageddon. Yet, numerous times they have published the date, and admonished followers to not get married, or have children because THE END IS NIGH. And what about those that honestly want to worship God, yet don't believe everything the WTBS teaches? They get DF'd and lose their family.
jgc04 3 years ago 2
I'll tell you what's "wrong" with it. Seeing that they now claim no inspiration, then they should STOP claiming to be "the Channel God is using to provide food at "the proper time" on His table".
Also, they contradict Jesus' own words. Jesus said that he IS COMING. He has been given King David's throne. This is an earthly throne. The GB now teach that Jesus IS NOT COMING but is staying up in heaven to rule from there. Where are the Scriptures to support this? There IS NONE.Matt. 24:30
Anchor707 2 years ago
Sure there are issues with JW theology, eschatology and history which they need to deal with by refining their doctrines, which they've been doing - and yes there have been immature conclusions published in their literature, but that doesn't change the fact that Armageddon is around the corner (by which I mean tomorrow, next year, 20 years from now, 100 years from now, 200 years from now). Now matter how you slice it or dice it we ARE living in the 'end times'.
infosurf 3 years ago
The purpose of this video is to point out how the Watchtower uses propaganda, the very same techniques they decry in other issues of their own magazines. This is double-speak and condemns their own methods.
WTComments 3 years ago
Ha ha,and you claim to not be a JW? That is BS!I was raised in your shitty cult,and your jw-ism is all thru your way of presenting your arguments,your language,your thought.I can spot it a mile away.You ARE a jehovahs witness,probably one in a high position,posting here under false flag,laying out a smoke screen to make your religion look better.Take your "theocratic warfare" somewhere else.
NormaJe4n 3 years ago
I've never been one of Jehovah's Witnesses, so that nullifies your inaccurate assertions regarding me and what I'm about - plain and simple. More importantly, WTComments or the people/person behind the WTComments videos says he's an active member.
infosurf 3 years ago
Why don't you ask the local Witnesses for a "study" then? You seem to be their target demographic. LOL
NewJerusalem1979 3 years ago
If we were to say: "The Bible is truly the inspired word of God but all other religious texts are false and not from God and are of no lasting value and actually are products of the Devil and God's wrath is upon those who believe such false religious texts if they don't change their beliefs" (as many reading this would agree), wouldn't we be setting up ourselves for the following: "You Bible believers make sweeping generalizations, using loaded language and fear fostering techniques?"
infosurf 3 years ago
Propaganda is everywhere, especially in advertising. Fallacy becomes dangerous when it is used to bind minds in unswerving devotion to a group of imperfect men, in this case the Governing Body. Very few religions take such severe measures against dissenters as JWs do. Any such group begs scrutiny.
WTComments 3 years ago
All Christianity and all religions do the same thing as what this guy is saying!!!
BD0909 3 years ago
Excellent video! I love the logic included in the videos.
EvidenceMinistries 3 years ago
"How can you be critical of the truth?" Excellent point. I love how you show the text of 1 John 4:1, after that. Priceless!
Yeah, we have no real idea of what the Governing Body bases their ideas on - we only have what they give us. So, basically, they're not being straightforward with us. I guess they think we can't handle the truth.
As an aside, I noticed how they have a "token-black-guy" in the Governing Body when you showed their picture.
amfanman 3 years ago 2
I like the new sound effects, V, and how you made sure to differentiate the word "truth" from JW Truth®. You're really improving your craft on these videos. Great job as always!
JBSauce 3 years ago
I cannot believe that these keep getting better!!! Thanks for all the hard work.
Nihilator 3 years ago 2
The Truth "ding"; ha ha ha! Brilliant, thanks for posting another great video!
cleanideas 3 years ago
you can get the watchtower cd-rom library from ebay ect
ralema567 3 years ago
now that's truth!
ralema567 3 years ago
Absolutely fantastic. We all need to email a link to this youtube video to all our JW friends and family. Spread the word!
Freeyourmindnow
freeyourmindnow 3 years ago 5
I can't thk u enough for posting the videos-my spouse is now a JW & ur videos & JWD has helped me tremendously in learning what the WTS is all about. WHAT MANIPULATORS!! My spouse is no longer the person I married-he is under THEIR control. Don't know how to reach him(I am christian & know the bible so he can't deceive me)I no longer trust him or believe him (we have kids & must always be on the alert-is that pathetic or what?)Sorry for rant,I just wanted to thk you very much for ur videos
jennb1415 3 years ago 4
The videos are designed to be watched by JWs and "should" be reasonable to them because we only source Watchtower publications. Challenge your husband to watch a video or two and get his opinion (no personal attacks allowed!) on the material. I'm a married JW too, so I understand...
WTComments 3 years ago
Superb video! Excellent information and so very well formulated and presented.
Shazoolo 3 years ago
Very informative V, well done again your videos are really helping people see the corruption and deceit of this very damaging cult, thanks for all your work on this !
coolsmith241 3 years ago 2
Excellent video. It's nice to see someone calling the Watchtower on their propaganda, line by line. Keep up the good work!
hopefulatheist 3 years ago 4
Excellent! I continue to attend meetings for personal reasons, but thanks to your videos, reading a Watchtower publication will never be the same, I can clearly see your points! And the best part is that we are talking about their own literature, not apostate writings. Thanks again! Keep up the Good Work!
mividasecreta 3 years ago 2
Good points.
krazzylad 3 years ago
Wow....Um....that's all I really have to say is WOW! I wish everyone could see this video. The use of Fallacies in any part of an article discredits the entire writing if you ask me. I wonder if there is one article without the use of at least one fallacy. Is Loaded Language a fallacy or a cult property...or both?
TimKilgore 3 years ago
This may be extreme, but when I first left the 'truth', I went around calling it the false, to emphasise the point. Great video.
Nimzomyth68 3 years ago 2
Ahhh
If only they would look at these videos.
Does my head in how clearly the JWs do not have the "Truth" (registered trademark) and yet it is impossible to argue logically with them.
goodboyturnsbadboy 3 years ago
"Mind off" So true.
It's so funny that we're supposed to challenge everyone else's beliefs, but cannot challenge "the truth" in the same way. Ugh...
DblOSmith 3 years ago 3
This may be the best WTComments so far.
trappedwarrior 3 years ago 2
Excellent as usual!
Keep'em coming!
The ending is priceless and surely will bring a chuckle to many privately in my kingdom hall!
notboii 3 years ago 4
Thank you! May I have another?
Alteghiest 3 years ago