Land ownership is fine, but.....when someone dies and has no heirs to the land and estate, that land and estate should be given freely back to the people to live on for free, that is one way we can prevent developers from destroying untouched land and reusing existing buildings. Basically Land and home recycling!
@elkyrona - I agree with you. I appreciate the example of what these folks are are doing to combine the experience of a community garden and eco village.
What it boils down to, is choice (or the lack of it). Currently, choice doesn't exist. The Land Enclosure acts effectively booted the common man off land on this island and made us flee to the industrial centres in order to survive. It continues today. Now we're fed opiates to make this slavery seem worthwhile. All i want is choice. When the means to choose an alternative is blatantly obstructed by the state, then that state is against my autonomy. It wants me to remain a human resource.
On a serious note I think the people featured here make a good point. I think that they are perhaps taking a more extreme approach but it has, for me, highlighted flaws within my lifestyle (such as wasting food etc).
With regards to 'freedom', is someone still free if they do a job they love? Despite working to pay for food, taxes etc?
An interesting lifestyle, not for me, but it does raise important issues about waste and money.
This is excellent to see happening in England, following other countries like Brazil (do a vid search for "Landless Workers Movement in Brazil"); this is striking at the root of corporate exploitation (no land = assimilation), we should all have the Right to live on the Earth sustainably (go veganic!) and self/community-sufficiently without being forced to sell ourselves in order to get money in order to pay others for the resources of Earth that belong to all of humanity, and all other life.
I have a few questions for people living in similar ways - you are depending on the labour of others, often working in bad conditions for poor wages, to be able to live like this - who made the tyres, plastic sheeting, cooking utensils, bucket for the shower, the timber from trees and the tents, that you use? How did these get to where you obtained them from? This is low-impact living, and commendable, but they should not fool themselves that they live 'outside the system' - they depend on it
why shouldn't they use what's available...? don't you think that people as committed as these would find something else for their plants if there weren't any car tires? they are showing an example of recycling and that's what this society needs.
I agree entirely. Many people I know (including my family) live in as low an impact lifestyle as they can reasonably manage (we are aiming for Transition Town status locally and working towards as near carbon-neutrality as we can), and re-use / recycle as much as they can. I don't know these particular people, but I have met quite a number of low-impact livers who are very derogatory about people who work and 'produce', and it is that attitude that I object to in the context of my original post.
@earthdoctor theyre only using what people would otherwise throw onto a landfill site creating more pollution, so really theyre helping the "outside system" by disposing of their waste :) if those things didnt exist they could go to a landfill site and find them... i agree with your point about their attitude but thats because they see the governments use of their money for wars/making a few people rich as evil i guess, so theyre just avoiding it and stating that opinion when asked.
My word! I do not get this, while these people live in these conditions what makes you think that this is exactly what government officials want us to live in while they live in luxury. The idea is great, growing your own food, but how will you deal with government that is imposing laws that will place the people in these conditions, hopefully not, and have those government people live in nice homes while not following there own laws? Why should we know think that we should trust government?
If they can make it work. All power! but remember Waco? This is how the the facist state will see them. David Koresh did the same thing. And he is now dead along with all his followers. But why should we reduce ourselves to primative style of living. Surely freedom can come with the hhomes we have now. I cannot see why we have to live in shacks to be free. That is going backward is it not!
Personally, I see it as moving forwards, rather than backwards. For example, water is an extremely precious resource and commodity. I have lived in regions of Africa where there are no faucets to borrow water from like these kids can do. The modern model of good living, is not sustainable as we will soon learn if we don't change our ways.
That is the statement they are making. Try to take only as much as you need. Our modern homes give us freedom, but at the price of other people's freedoms.
Yeah! But if you start new communities out side of the system as it is now. There will still be a need for for expansion, Law and and eventually an hierarchy will evolve and so on until we have another system. Its the law of natural progression. Otherwise you have anarchy. And that would be a bad thing. Opting out of society is not the answer. we have to steer what we have back to democracy. We always see adverts begging for help with water in African regions. Sorry. poor argument.
I stayed at the village for a couple of days back in September, and it was an incredible experience. I found peace and calm within myself that I didn't realise I was capable of. These guys are doing an incredible thing. Unfortunately being a child of society, I can't envisage commiting to something like that, but envy that they are able to, and I certainly intend to stop by for another visit one day! I learnt a lot in two days, imagine what we could learn from them!
Simon speaks eloquently. The fact is that by disrupting the direct relationship to food, water, shelter that is innate, we are made ever more dependent AND those that coerced and continue to coerce that disruption KNOW the consequences and continue nonetheless.
Freedom is the natural expectation of each child, in the sense of the word as Simon explains at about 9 minutes....
Type in "Wandsworth eco village" in the search slot on youtube to see a brief video of the 1996 Wandsworth eco village which was started by the Land is ours and Reclaim The Streets and lasted from May 1996 until October 1996.
whoooooa thats powerful stuff!! its put a whole new perspective of life in my head that i never thought about before!! nice video mr ramasami!! a great distraction from my chemistry past paper :D
The interviewers a knob.
GoFastMcWeasel 1 month ago
amazingly well put
button1943 2 months ago
Land ownership is fine, but.....when someone dies and has no heirs to the land and estate, that land and estate should be given freely back to the people to live on for free, that is one way we can prevent developers from destroying untouched land and reusing existing buildings. Basically Land and home recycling!
EasternMerchant 3 months ago
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EasternMerchant 3 months ago
@elkyrona - I agree with you. I appreciate the example of what these folks are are doing to combine the experience of a community garden and eco village.
waellerbe 4 months ago
What it boils down to, is choice (or the lack of it). Currently, choice doesn't exist. The Land Enclosure acts effectively booted the common man off land on this island and made us flee to the industrial centres in order to survive. It continues today. Now we're fed opiates to make this slavery seem worthwhile. All i want is choice. When the means to choose an alternative is blatantly obstructed by the state, then that state is against my autonomy. It wants me to remain a human resource.
M8OO8M 1 year ago
Good video
ecotts 1 year ago
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'Maybe just sing a chorus' hahaha!
On a serious note I think the people featured here make a good point. I think that they are perhaps taking a more extreme approach but it has, for me, highlighted flaws within my lifestyle (such as wasting food etc).
With regards to 'freedom', is someone still free if they do a job they love? Despite working to pay for food, taxes etc?
An interesting lifestyle, not for me, but it does raise important issues about waste and money.
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seekYEthetruth 1 year ago
Guess they want to erect the flats now. Veggies you grew destroyed and your place gone, so are you all going to start it up again?
Iamnotanumbernr1 1 year ago
im soo upset that Kew Bridge Eco Village is GONE evicted this morning, please tell me its not true. nooooooo
JustBunyipgill 1 year ago
Lovely. Search 'Coed Hills' to glimpse another fine bunch in Wales.
rollingcock1234 1 year ago
This is excellent to see happening in England, following other countries like Brazil (do a vid search for "Landless Workers Movement in Brazil"); this is striking at the root of corporate exploitation (no land = assimilation), we should all have the Right to live on the Earth sustainably (go veganic!) and self/community-sufficiently without being forced to sell ourselves in order to get money in order to pay others for the resources of Earth that belong to all of humanity, and all other life.
8foldpath4peace 1 year ago
this is frontline britain
harebellish 1 year ago
great video great people
gavins1970 2 years ago
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dpuck 2 years ago
I have a few questions for people living in similar ways - you are depending on the labour of others, often working in bad conditions for poor wages, to be able to live like this - who made the tyres, plastic sheeting, cooking utensils, bucket for the shower, the timber from trees and the tents, that you use? How did these get to where you obtained them from? This is low-impact living, and commendable, but they should not fool themselves that they live 'outside the system' - they depend on it
earthdoctor 2 years ago
why shouldn't they use what's available...? don't you think that people as committed as these would find something else for their plants if there weren't any car tires? they are showing an example of recycling and that's what this society needs.
visualcomms 2 years ago 2
I agree entirely. Many people I know (including my family) live in as low an impact lifestyle as they can reasonably manage (we are aiming for Transition Town status locally and working towards as near carbon-neutrality as we can), and re-use / recycle as much as they can. I don't know these particular people, but I have met quite a number of low-impact livers who are very derogatory about people who work and 'produce', and it is that attitude that I object to in the context of my original post.
earthdoctor 2 years ago
@earthdoctor theyre only using what people would otherwise throw onto a landfill site creating more pollution, so really theyre helping the "outside system" by disposing of their waste :) if those things didnt exist they could go to a landfill site and find them... i agree with your point about their attitude but thats because they see the governments use of their money for wars/making a few people rich as evil i guess, so theyre just avoiding it and stating that opinion when asked.
djdnauk1977 1 year ago
they make the world a better place to live. and to see ther is hope for ppl!. one love! true happyness comes from yourself.
GangstaThugLen 2 years ago
Good stuff!!!
Disco1Destroyer 2 years ago
My word! I do not get this, while these people live in these conditions what makes you think that this is exactly what government officials want us to live in while they live in luxury. The idea is great, growing your own food, but how will you deal with government that is imposing laws that will place the people in these conditions, hopefully not, and have those government people live in nice homes while not following there own laws? Why should we know think that we should trust government?
freedomnow2012 2 years ago
If they can make it work. All power! but remember Waco? This is how the the facist state will see them. David Koresh did the same thing. And he is now dead along with all his followers. But why should we reduce ourselves to primative style of living. Surely freedom can come with the hhomes we have now. I cannot see why we have to live in shacks to be free. That is going backward is it not!
Davesherlock 2 years ago
Personally, I see it as moving forwards, rather than backwards. For example, water is an extremely precious resource and commodity. I have lived in regions of Africa where there are no faucets to borrow water from like these kids can do. The modern model of good living, is not sustainable as we will soon learn if we don't change our ways.
That is the statement they are making. Try to take only as much as you need. Our modern homes give us freedom, but at the price of other people's freedoms.
curiousjedi 2 years ago 2
Yeah! But if you start new communities out side of the system as it is now. There will still be a need for for expansion, Law and and eventually an hierarchy will evolve and so on until we have another system. Its the law of natural progression. Otherwise you have anarchy. And that would be a bad thing. Opting out of society is not the answer. we have to steer what we have back to democracy. We always see adverts begging for help with water in African regions. Sorry. poor argument.
Davesherlock 2 years ago
I could do this.Smeone would have to climb the ladder for me but the rest I saw sounds like a life.Beats cap&trade al t hell.
sweetseasons1 2 years ago
I stayed at the village for a couple of days back in September, and it was an incredible experience. I found peace and calm within myself that I didn't realise I was capable of. These guys are doing an incredible thing. Unfortunately being a child of society, I can't envisage commiting to something like that, but envy that they are able to, and I certainly intend to stop by for another visit one day! I learnt a lot in two days, imagine what we could learn from them!
buffence 2 years ago
This is lovely honest video. respect to the presenter for his honesty!
djlookwood 2 years ago
Simon speaks eloquently. The fact is that by disrupting the direct relationship to food, water, shelter that is innate, we are made ever more dependent AND those that coerced and continue to coerce that disruption KNOW the consequences and continue nonetheless.
Freedom is the natural expectation of each child, in the sense of the word as Simon explains at about 9 minutes....
djlookwood 2 years ago
love and respect to all involved - people are doing for themselves - you can too
thepixiecrew 2 years ago
Interesting stuff! sub'd
AltArtist 2 years ago
fantastic stuff ,takes be back to when i was a hippy
binghamism 2 years ago
big up! be the change you want to see!
curiousjedi 2 years ago
brilliant , your gettin facebook'd lad ;)
BL4NDY 2 years ago
great stuff!!
aliclarkeyeah 2 years ago
Type in "Wandsworth eco village" in the search slot on youtube to see a brief video of the 1996 Wandsworth eco village which was started by the Land is ours and Reclaim The Streets and lasted from May 1996 until October 1996.
InternetUser1999 2 years ago
great job!
mjd1982 2 years ago
grate stuff guys well done the place is looking grate
alchino23 2 years ago
i'll second what these guys said. very inspiring
44antman 2 years ago
That mans definition of freedom was very good!
ROFL looks like a alien when his arm was taken off lol
RockerRhys6666 2 years ago
whoooooa thats powerful stuff!! its put a whole new perspective of life in my head that i never thought about before!! nice video mr ramasami!! a great distraction from my chemistry past paper :D
JesshyCarr 2 years ago