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  • Well, he did do it in class, which is understandable. Too bad nobody reads it, in your opinion. Its much better informed than most. Not that any human can be definative about anything; but at least keep an open mind. If anything, that's more important than how well you can showcase your dogma.

  • THANK YOU. Finally, someone who hasn't been brainwashed by eco-terrorist propaganda. My hat's off to you!

  • This Graham fellow is really entertaining. Has anyone else had this kind of time to sit around on youtube writing diatribes that no one reads? Ha ha. Nothing better to do while he sits around collecting his unemployment, driving up my premiums.

    Now that the comic relief has finished, can we give peterspace1 some constructive comments?

  • Really? You think I could afford university if I was collecting unemployment? And judging by the extent of replies, I'd say you're wrong about the "no one reads" the previous posts.

  • Well, you just called me "monkey-boy", so it seems a logical conclusion to me. I'd recommend you go back to beating kaffers in the streets of Joburg, but I have a feeling you'd be outnumbered these days, you dirty race-baiting hypocrit boer.

  • No really, I'm in my POLI346 lecture right now.

  • Finishing up my BA in Political Science and Military History as we speak. :)

  • Do you think that makes you educated? Oh fuck your a funny one.

  • And that is what is called an association fallacy (a=b, all b's are c's, therefore a=c).

  • Why? Are you going to kick me into the Transkei if you don't like what colour my skin is? Thank god for de Klerk, otherwise idiots like you would still be running the show down there.

  • For someone who likes to critique spelling and grammar, yours could really use some clarity; you're not making much sense, not that you were making any to begin with.

  • Yes, illiteracy must be so much fun for you. It must be wonderful lacking an education, "thinking for yourself" and such.

  • Wow, so you're a homophobe too? Jesus, you must be a fan of Terre'blanche.

  • Really? I have yet to see any since the 1980s.

  • That didn't work for Adniral Nelson either. Dafty.

  • Yes, but you're missing the point: seals are not humans.

  • Now now, I thought you said humans are animals just like any other, no better or worse? If that's the case, how should I be offended by your calling my parents "ape-like"? Unless of course you're one of those jackbooted AWB supporters and you're trying to be a racist.

  • LOL

  • I'll take that as a yes. Wee man.

  • Pretty sure our government has better things to do than debate foreign envirothugs on youtube. I on the otherhand, am bored easily and am getting quite a kick out of this. :)

  • Took me a while to catch my breath after that, having just laughed my ass off at your grasping at straws.

  • And South Africans such as yourself who get worked up by the domestic affairs and wildlife management in a country on the other side of the planet make me laugh.

  • Wow, I've never been called a "Shill Whore" before. You get a star!

  • Wrong on both counts. And animals do not posess logic or reasoning, so we need not treat them the same as humans. Read some Descartes, you'll understand.

  • Read? LMAO

  • You're forgetting, they're not "baby" seals, and it's not "murder" because they are not human beings.

  • Not to be a grammar nazi, but you really ought to check your own spelling, punctuation, etc. before you start criticizing others'.

  • Hmm, looks like I guessed your reaction right on the mark. Not even an attempt to counter anything I've said here. Can't say I'm suprised. Why admit you're wrong when you can just sling insults? :)

  • What have you said to counter? Exactly?

  • To counter what? Your off-topic insults or your paranoid delusions that I'm a paid agent of the Canadian government engaging in a flamewar on Youtube?

  • Finally, your descriptions of the hunt as "evil" and "murder" and referrences to the holocaust display that the impetus for your arguement lies with a deeply-set emotional attatchment to animals, as you have let your emotions get the best of you. The holocaust was a systematic genocide of human beings. The seal hunt is a manner by which both humans and seals may continue existing.

  • One point that I greatly take issue with on this matter are your attempts to take the moral high ground, using fallacy of accident, confirmation biases, strawman arguements and false dichotomies, in addition to your holier-than-thou attitudes. No matter how just you believe your cause to be, no matter how right you think you are, no matter how loud you can protest, it does not change the fact that within Canada your opinions are in the minority, and outside, they do not even matter to us.

  • The concepts of "democracy" and "sovereignty", both key tenets of the Canadian constitution, outline that it is the will of the majority which decides the government of Canada and the legislative policies it pursues, exclusive to the wishes of Canadian citizens, and without influence from foreign influence and demands. Therefore, as the majority of Canadians support the seal hunt, and as it is the Canadian people who decide the policies of our government, it will continue as we see fit.

  • MInority? Dream on monkey boy

  • One oft-repeated mantra is that seals are being killed to protect fish stocks. This is not the case. While seals are known as voracious eaters and may be a temporary threat to fishing in a small area if enough seals inhabit the same space for a given amount of time, it would simply not be practical to kill only a few hundred thousand seals and hope to have any effect.

  • The reason behind the seal hunt is 3-fold: one, it is an integral part of Canadian culture and heritage, having existed since the Inuit peoples first inhabited the Canadian arctic, long before european contact. Secondly, it provides much needed funds to families in isolated communities in Newfoundland and Nova Scotia which have suffered great economic trials since the cod fishery closed in the 1980s.

  • Thirdly, the hunt serves as a form of cull, to prevent the seal population from spiralling out of control, growing beyond the capacity of and depleting their food sources, thereby placing the species at risk. An example of what can happen when this takes place was seen on a small scale in July 2007 when over 700,000 seals went ashore on the north coast of Prince Edward Island to mold, and a full 1/3 starved to death as they had consumed virtually all he fish in the immediate vicinity.

  • Another myth is that it is "baby seals", that is, pups which are hunted. This is pure falsehood. It has been illegal to hunt whitecoats for about 20 years now, and the demand for their furs no longer exists, rendering them essentially worthless.

  • LOL. THE determining factor in any species population is FOOD. When you postulate on the seals "depleting their food sources" are you defying our understanding of evolution and it's forces or are you really saying that you're a ideologically driven, volunteer liar?

  • Enough with the patting yourselves on the back, hippies. You are all very poorly-informed, albeit well-intentioned, fringe-inhabiting lunatics with a very evident inferiority complex that you may want to have checked out.

    First, let me start off by saying "I understand". I understand why you believe the seal hunt should end. I understand why you want to preserve the earth for future generations. I understand why you do what you do.

  • I mentioned that you are poorly-informed, and this seems to be the root of your problem. You claim to believe that harp seals are somehow endangered and are at risk of going extinct. You claim that the reason seals are being killed is to protect the fish stocks so the cod fishery can reopen. A major cause of this may be due to the fact most of you are American, with a few Brits and others here and there, and are of course ignorant about Canadian society, history, culture, and government.

  • Firstly, harp seals are not endangered. Far from it, they are extremely plentiful, with 3 North Atlantic populations, each numbering between 5 and 14 million, the Northwest population which is hunted in the Gulf of St. Lawrence having more than tripled its population since 1970.

  • The International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources (the largest coalition of environmental and conservation non-governmental-organizations in the world, which includes the World Wildlife Fund and the United Nations Environment Programme, but NOT Sea Shepherd lol) has given the Harp Seal a conservation status of "least concern", the lowest possible endangerment rating. That is, they are of little to no risk of becoming an endangered species.

  • Beyond the basely offensive concept of comparing holocaust victims to animals, you overlook the key element of the issue, that we are discussing ANIMALS, not humans. Animals do not possess logic, self-awareness, or any rationalism. In the case of seals, they operate on a mammallian-brain level, physically incapable of such conceptualizing such things, or rather, conceptualizing anything at all.

  • Modernist ethics dictate that we are obligated as concious, logical beings to extend the same rights we enjoy to other concious, logical beings. Yet as seals do not meet this criterion, we can not.

  • Thank you for your time. I look forward to your flames, insults, knee-jerk rhetoric, threats, thumbs down and marking my comments as spam (so much for free speech, mmm?). For the best results in reading my spiel, click the view all comments link toward the bottom of the page.

    Sincerely,

    ~Graham

    PS, hippies smell

  • Sociopaths smell worse.

  • Nice try monkey boy.

  • YOU are a fucking disgrace, you envirofascist. Canadians do not meddle in the domestic policies of South Africa (unless you count our participation in sanctions against the Apartheid regime, and you can thank us for doing so), therefore what makes you think you have a right to preach about our domestic policies?

  • Who the hell are to tell anyone what they can or cannot talk about? Get back in your pram you arrogant little fuck.

  • i love the video ,give me more

  • One small kick for mankind?

  • loyola hearn does not speak for Canadians in the remotest sense. This abomination and the handful of Newfoundlanders that scramble for his crumbs will be out in a few short weeks after our federal election. Meanwhile, too much loss of life to ever be forgiven.

    Please look to South Africa and the slaughter of their elephants. I doubt that the SA people support their slaughter any more than Canadians do the slaughter of seals. Where is democracy?? Where is our voice??

  • You obviously haven't been following the election. Harper and the Tories will be returned to office no doubt, and possibly with a majority. As for your idea of democracy, it means the majority decide what goes, it doesn't mean if you scream the loudest, you get what you want, no matter how marginal your ideas are.

    The latest poll showed a majority of Canadians support the seal hunt, especially those polled in Newfoundlant, therefore, it will stay. THAT is democracy.

  • Is that "the latest poll" in your head or are you going to back something up with a reference for a change?

  • They will not be forgiven. I believe we are here to keep alive nature not destroy it. we are the only ones capable. They will not be forgiven.

  • They are killing everything so we have to rely on genetically modified crap and make us pay carbon tax! We will be living in bubbles soon paying them for air! They are slaughtering everything evrywhere even here in Australia! They are doing this tomake us reliant on them for EVERYTHING! People wont be able to hunt because there will be nothing left! No wood, no water, no food, no oxygen. Total control!

  • Great interview! Thanks for posting this and helping to spread the word.

  • "The CCG is only stopping them putting the sealers in danger." That`s hilarious. I believe the only sealers that have been put in danger this year were the 4 killed by the incompitence of the the coast guard.

  • Dictionary meaning of Holocaust; 'destruction or loss of live on a massive scale'. A pretty accurate description of what is happening in the seal murder in Canada every year. As for lowering people to 'the same level as animals' - how arrogant, Humans are simply another species on this planet. The Planet can get by just fine without us, which might actually happen if we do not stop the wholesale destruction of our environment.

  • Consider reading 'Diet for a Small Planet' a book by Frances Moore Lappé. You might be surprised at what you find there. P.S. don't like granola!

  • Will do, on the condition that you watch all six seasons of "Penn & Teller: Bullshit!", specifically episodes 2-01, 2-05, and 6-06.

  • The word "holocaust" does not just apply to the mass murder by the Nazis that took place in WWII. And this use of the word does nothing to denigrate Jews or anyone else; it's a simple description of what happens every year in Canada to the seals.

    Don't be so sensitive.

  • To lower animals to the same level of jews is absurd and supremely offensive. There are not many animal war criminals are there?

  • Wow, so there are antisemites in the midst of you ecothugs as well.

    How interesting to see how you are becoming particular about specific races of people you hate, rather than just human beings period.

  • Anti-semite? I don't have a problem with the semite Palestinians so that can't be right can it wee man? Also jews are not a race, their connection is a typically hateful religion. I hate, as you put it, war criminals and their apologists, whatever their country, race or superstitions. Now get an argument together and stop crying about being picked on you big girls blouse.

  • The Jews are not a race? Really? This comes as a great suprise to me, having read a great deal on racism and the holocaust, not to mention having a number of Jewish friends, including several in Israel.

  • This interview is so full of lies. I know you have a cause but you are lying. The hunt does not take babies. The methods used are not more brutal than any slaughter house. The hunt sustainable. The population of harp seals increased in the last 30 years. The CCG is only stopping them putting the sealers in danger.

  • The Seal murderers might not take the baby white pups anymore, but they certainly don't discriminate with any of the others. I'm sure they don't discriminate between a 4 week old and an adult seal. As for slaughter houses, don't assume that most of us support those either. I do not. And as for Seal numbers increasing in the past 30 years - what absolute bollocks.

  • Really? You marked this guy's comment as spam? Get real, hippies.

    And he's right. The population is extremely healthy. Look at the species endangerment index rating of Harp Seals for proof.

  • For the life of me... with all the petitions i've signed, letters to the Prime Minister, and the number of people that support this cause.... why, then why is the government not listening?

  • DianeDi, we do not bother with this arrogant government any more. Please appeal to the European Commission with letters and sign all petitions you see. We already know that the loss of market will end this atrocity. Bypass the idiots in government and be sure the world knows our true position on this in our country.

  • We the free society must make this act of evil stop now and shall never practice this again. We must grow as humans and discard our primitive ways of the past. let the creatures be who they are and we shall cry no more... God is looking down on us and he is crying what men have done. Live more compassionately the remainder of your existence and God may forgive you.

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