@hexcane Rohrbacher's casual drift into the use of torture may sound like the expedient thing to do, but the bigger question is what kind of America are you protecting?
Being a supporter of America, how can it continue to be the kind of democracy that the rest of us put our trust in? Leadership is not just winning; it is about leading in values and approach. Torturing your enemies puts you on the same level as the terrorists. This was my point about being destroyed from within.
@hexcane Dude, the world is not as black and white as you are making out. It is not a case of liberals vs conservatives. I am not American, and I don't buy into these false divisions.
But this misses my main point. America leads the world. How do you want to do that? Do you want to drift into a regime and approach that matches the fascist and communist regimes that have been rightly overthrown in the past? Or do you want to take the higher ground?
Rohrabacher is worried about people who "hate our way of life". Yet his approach also threatens it. The ends don't justify the means, even if supposedly "we are at war".
Shows like '24' have softened us up for the mythical 'ticking time bomb' scenario to justify torture. The end result is we in the West are being led down to the lowest forms of behaviour - that do threaten our way of life, but from within. And Rohrabacher himself is leading us there.
Let me guess this straight, he starts his argument by stating it would be ok to torture someone he feels might know something important then calls the accused terrorist who just spent time in a secretive high security federal prison a liar for claiming he was tortured.
So this moron thinks it's "okay" to have 10 innocent people basically abducted because they think they might be terrorists? How about doing some solid research to find out "who" is a terrorists. The PATRIOT ACT needs to be over-ruled!
And people in America wonder why Europeans think American's are ignorant.
Yeah, they attacked us because of our "Democratic Way of life". . .sure--you moron! The REASON why the Middle East hates America and attacked us on 9/11 is because of the American Government's actions since the post WWII in the Middle East!!! And you think (surprisingly) that's it's because of our "democratic" way of life??? Sure? What a moron! Then insults the European nations? What a MORON!!!
This video is once again highly topical now in 2009, especially today when Rohrbacher parrots Dick Cheney to Hillary Clinton and gets a deserved slapping down about Cheney's reliability as a source of truth. WHY DO ORANGE COUNTY VOTERS KEEP PUTTING THIS BLUSTERING MORON, SELFISH SMALL-MINDED MURDEROUS DOLT BACK IN CONGRESS????? (Cuz they're too busy on their yachts and at their bridge clubs to educate themselves?)
I hope its their families as well,i gurantee if those who were moaning if it was their families the next time they would feel differently the next time.
You liberals just don't get it. These terrorists will kill you. But then when they kill your family you will blame our government for not preventing it or protecting you. To think that great men have laid down their lives for such ungrateful cowards.
It's ironic to hear this clown talk about the Taliban when he was one of their biggest pre-9/11 supporters. Google: "OC Weekly" "Rogue Statesman" for more.
This is the face of America presented to the world, no wonder they hate us. Rohrabacher has been a consistent propagandist for Bush and this shows he still is. I thought California was supposed to be a liberal haven. How did this douchebag get into office and more importantly, how has he stayed there?
@hexcane Rohrbacher's casual drift into the use of torture may sound like the expedient thing to do, but the bigger question is what kind of America are you protecting?
Being a supporter of America, how can it continue to be the kind of democracy that the rest of us put our trust in? Leadership is not just winning; it is about leading in values and approach. Torturing your enemies puts you on the same level as the terrorists. This was my point about being destroyed from within.
DudeThinking 1 year ago
@hexcane Dude, the world is not as black and white as you are making out. It is not a case of liberals vs conservatives. I am not American, and I don't buy into these false divisions.
But this misses my main point. America leads the world. How do you want to do that? Do you want to drift into a regime and approach that matches the fascist and communist regimes that have been rightly overthrown in the past? Or do you want to take the higher ground?
DudeThinking 1 year ago
Rohrabacher is worried about people who "hate our way of life". Yet his approach also threatens it. The ends don't justify the means, even if supposedly "we are at war".
Shows like '24' have softened us up for the mythical 'ticking time bomb' scenario to justify torture. The end result is we in the West are being led down to the lowest forms of behaviour - that do threaten our way of life, but from within. And Rohrabacher himself is leading us there.
DudeThinking 1 year ago
Let me guess this straight, he starts his argument by stating it would be ok to torture someone he feels might know something important then calls the accused terrorist who just spent time in a secretive high security federal prison a liar for claiming he was tortured.
jimjamerman 1 year ago
i could care less what european trash thinks of my country,want to know what i think of them lol
nicolemanning16 2 years ago
So this moron thinks it's "okay" to have 10 innocent people basically abducted because they think they might be terrorists? How about doing some solid research to find out "who" is a terrorists. The PATRIOT ACT needs to be over-ruled!
damunson3 2 years ago
Plus!!! Plus!!! The first G. Bush basically had feelings about America being attacked by terrorists!
damunson3 2 years ago
And people in America wonder why Europeans think American's are ignorant.
Yeah, they attacked us because of our "Democratic Way of life". . .sure--you moron! The REASON why the Middle East hates America and attacked us on 9/11 is because of the American Government's actions since the post WWII in the Middle East!!! And you think (surprisingly) that's it's because of our "democratic" way of life??? Sure? What a moron! Then insults the European nations? What a MORON!!!
damunson3 2 years ago
I love Dana. I love for him every election. :)
cornflakecrisis 2 years ago 2
This video is once again highly topical now in 2009, especially today when Rohrbacher parrots Dick Cheney to Hillary Clinton and gets a deserved slapping down about Cheney's reliability as a source of truth. WHY DO ORANGE COUNTY VOTERS KEEP PUTTING THIS BLUSTERING MORON, SELFISH SMALL-MINDED MURDEROUS DOLT BACK IN CONGRESS????? (Cuz they're too busy on their yachts and at their bridge clubs to educate themselves?)
MarnWeeks 2 years ago
Maybe, its because to fight people like you
vinnyflintoff 2 years ago
Okay torture is okay? and there goes the "moral highground"...
Darusdei 3 years ago
Okay torture is okay? and there goes the "moral highground"...
Darusdei 3 years ago
this guy is a big dick. and not a penis, either.
johnslennon41 3 years ago
I dont blame him.
FrenchToastCharlie 3 years ago
How do we know your an idiot?.....CAUSE YOU PROVED IT. So much for the Constitution.Get this guy out of office.
cdoug1 3 years ago
I hope its their families as well,i gurantee if those who were moaning if it was their families the next time they would feel differently the next time.
nicolemanning16 4 years ago
I hope it's just HIM!
damunson3 2 years ago
no code pink needs to die i hope its just THEM! lol code pink are a bunch of ugly old hags anyways
nicolemanning16 2 years ago
You liberals just don't get it. These terrorists will kill you. But then when they kill your family you will blame our government for not preventing it or protecting you. To think that great men have laid down their lives for such ungrateful cowards.
ssgtforce 4 years ago
great critical thinking skills there, dude. I *completely* have changed my mind due to your eloquent and carefully worded prose.
johnslennon41 3 years ago
It's ironic to hear this clown talk about the Taliban when he was one of their biggest pre-9/11 supporters. Google: "OC Weekly" "Rogue Statesman" for more.
cobwebhead 4 years ago
I am so angry that this jerk is my congressman, I didn't vote for him but I am still ashamed
SealDnzg 4 years ago
This guy is an idiot....we need to elect him out of office.
alphacsulb 4 years ago
What a slime of a human being. My sympathy to his constituents. I definitely plan on donating to any candidate willing to run against him.
theprits 4 years ago
Apparently his district has a huge proportion of military personnel.
mardish 4 years ago
This is the face of America presented to the world, no wonder they hate us. Rohrabacher has been a consistent propagandist for Bush and this shows he still is. I thought California was supposed to be a liberal haven. How did this douchebag get into office and more importantly, how has he stayed there?
mortos13 4 years ago
"Forget the Rule of Law! Forget habeas corpus! Forget the facts! We will make you safe even if it kills you!"
Rohrabacher is deranged and shouldn't hold any position of public trust.
gtrumpnc 4 years ago
Look up "douchebag" in the dictionary and you'll see a picture of Rohrbacher.
NitestarProductions 4 years ago
Couldn't have said it better myself.
suchsweetthunder47 4 years ago
Thank you for posting this. Without a record it would be as if those words were never spoken.
deepbluehawaii 4 years ago