The Great Global Warming Swindle - Part 2 of 7

[agnostaxian]

my biology teacher told us to only flush when we take a dump because of this "global warming" bs

[grendelee]

My favorite part of the video is when it lied.

[Sugardaddy501]

@grendelee please prove your statement without personal attacks please.

[iimmadam]

This is just another LIE on top of  the lie of global warming, this SHOULD NOT COVER OUR EYES AND EARS! Consumerism and Government want us to be stupid, we should not be in "THE AGE OF STUPID". We gota realise how many waste we are producing and how much we are taking from our planet without giving a mercy to it, WE ARE DESTROYING OUR PLANET!!!

PLEASE GO GREEN, and fight against MONEY MONSTERS !!! This film use facts to make us believe, scientists are not the truth. THINK PEOPLE! use ur heads!

[aussiebakert1977]

Suggest you all read The_Great_Global_Warming_Swind­le wikipedia article.

Lots of complaints about this show about misrepresenting facts.

[MrGilles1990]

@aussiebakert1977 Ah Wikipedia, that always represents facts correctly.

[Firestryke2]

-Seeing asthe drawing of scientific conclusion is the result of a democracy of scientific opinion and has no bearing on physical reality...listing all those organizations is a great argument cucarachon! (and much lulz were had by all)

[cucarachon]

they got the physics wrong, greenhouse effects does exist...

[TheBrassBone]

@cucarachon Did you watch the first part? People like you upset me. They never said that the greenhouse effect does not exist. They are merely stating that it is preposterous to assert that humans and CO2 have had a dire effect on our atmosphere and climate. Glad to see people have such strong comprehension skills >.>

[cucarachon]

@TheBrassBone

Did you watch the 2nd part? Seems to me that theyre saying "And its here according to the climate models that the rate of warming should be highest if its greenhouse gas that's causing it" or "All the models calculate that the warming should be faster as its goes up from the surface into the atmosphere" They didn't want to say it but it seems to me that theyre denying the physics of greenhouse effect.

[TheBrassBone]

@cucarachon o.O Not once do they deny the existence of or the physics regarding the greenhouse effect. What are you smoking? They are offering logical explanations for why the earth is going through climates shifts.

Global warming skeptics are neither saying that warming does not take place nor that CO2 does not exist as a greenhouse gas. All it takes is a little free-thinking and detaching yourself form the political dogma of the IPCC and the UN... open your eyes and ears friend.

[cucarachon]

@TheBrassBone

I could say the same thing to you, Ive got my own reasons on believing it other than IPCC statements. I'm studying science, both of my parents are physicist, I've talked to most of the most important atmosphere researchers on my university. Open your eyes, not just your ears dude.

[dab0331]

@cucarachon if u want to stop global warming i suggest u destroy the wetlands since vater vapor is the major contributor to green house gases.

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

With that comment, I can know that you dont know anything about the atmosphere or its components. Relative humidity in the air can go from 30% to 90% in one day, the atmosphere is always trying to mantain its humidity and its always been like that, then it goes back to 30% (or less); absolute humidity on the air is more or less constant. In the other hand, ppm of CO2 in the air are going up, and up, and up, and up, the CO2 on the air is too much for the cycle to take (unlike water).

[TheBrassBone]

@cucarachon And also, to answer your question, I have watched the entire film. Something inside tells me you have not. Because they do not agree with you they MUST be wrong. Because their data and theories do not align with those of the IPCC they MUST be wrong. Because nut cases like Al Gore create films using scare tactics ad emotional weapons, THEY MUST BE WRONG! People like you make me sick. Again, I suggest using that big amorphous blog of gray matter sitting atop in your skull.

[cucarachon]

@TheBrassBone

People like you think the IPCC is the only organism saying the climate change is due to human activities. What about Academia Brasiliera de Ciencias (Brasil), National Academy of Sciences (USA), Instituto de Ciencias de la Atmósfera de la UNAM (México), Royal Society (UK), Science Council of Japan, Academie des Sciences (France), Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany), Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences, etc? I suggest using you brain.

[dab0331]

@cucarachon i also guess completely ignored the part of the troposphere not heating.

u know why? another contribution to warming is urbanisation. cities are always hotter than the rural areas becuz the buildings trap heat.

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

Can you find the difference between the urban heat island and the global warming?? Give it a try!!

[dab0331]

@cucarachon well considering that urbanization has become more and more a part of the earth i wouldn't be suprised if it doesn't partly contribute to the increase of the earths overall heat in satelitte data. DUH!

and i guess u forget that c02 is such a minor greenhouse gas and that c02 actually follows heat. not the other way around.

[dab0331]

@cucarachon increase in c02 is good. that's more food for plants and increased plant growth.

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

Leave science for the ones that actually do science. The effect of CO2 on plants is variable and depends on a lot of complex factors, the effects of more CO2 on agriculture would be devastating

[dab0331]

@cucarachon there's a reason why certain gardeners will actually pump c02 into their greenhouses.

[dab0331]

@cucarachon global warming is a fraud used for the elite to take over all of industry and peoples lives. And to open up a world bank.

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

Its funny to hear that argument, since the people that are trying to convince you that global warming isnt real are the ones who control the world bank... why do you think that the highest number of skeptics in the world are in the USA?

[dab0331]

@cucarachon no the one's who ARE trying to push for a world bank is the thos who believe in global warming.

the reason the biggest skeptic is in the US is becuz Americans are stupid but not as stupid as the europeans. the EU and UN want it becuz they want total control. they want to destroy americas economy while boosting chinas.

this isnt about the polar bears. this is about regulating every aspect of our lives. c02 is NOT a pollutant.

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

As I already told you, I'm a geogrpaher and i can also speak about geopolitics and international relations. Your argument are just so silly, how would europe want to boost china's economy? And if theyre doing so, what does CO2 have to do with it?? Actually, China is the no. 1 CO2 producer of the world and they are beggining to need more and more oil, thats why they are starting to hold relations with some countries in Africa: to get their oil!

[dab0331]

@cucarachon "And if theyre doing so, what does CO2 have to do with it?? "

c02 has everything to do with it. it's one of the 4 basic life blocks along wiht the sun, water, and oxygen. that means u get to regulate EVERYTHING in industry and our lives. its the very shit we breathout.

the US stands in the way of the EU & UN. it's the last bastion of freedom.

they want to see it fail and have a new global government in its place.

and it wont be a free one. china is the model they wanna replicate

[dab0331]

@cucarachon c02 is NOT a pollutant.

it is such an insignificant greenhouse gas.

and studies have already proven that c02 follows temperature. not the other way around.

ITS THE SUN!!

c02 global warming is a fraud designed to destroy the economy of the US.

u even check out the vid i posted?

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

CO2 follows temperature?? Please do explain. I didn't watch the whole video (i plan on doing so this weekend) i just watched the first minutes and it seems deluded to me, kinda like the "amero" thing. And the sun argument is also old: how come that in the last 35 years, sun activity and climate have been going in opposite directions?? We are in a solar minimum right now while the temperatures are still increasing.

[dab0331]

@cucarachon cap and trade is a trillion dollar business.

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

Ha! I couldnt wait and i watched the entire video you sent me, I found it really entertaining and i think they got this part right: cap and trade is definately business. Thinking that climate change isn't real because of this is kinda silly tho, one of the funniets parts of the video is when they interview the scientits who is living in incognito and whose life is in danger, there are many climate skeptics (as yourself) and nones life is thretened.

[dab0331]

@cucarachon cap and trade is a way to destroy smaller businesses. only lage corporations on the top can affored it.

its the same as medicare which merely perpetuates medical companies' oligopoly.

if u can control the very shit ppl breath out u can control the world. it's about power not hte polar bears.

as for the c02 following temperature... watch the rest of this vid then. and i dont know who's telling u that the solar activity and climate are going the opposite directions. thats bullshit

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

Its not bullshit, its just your ignorance on the topic. In this video they show that graph where solar activity and temperature increase seem to be parallel, but what they don't tell you is that the graph only goes until 1980 (when the solar activity started to decline). There are many things that are wrong with this video: this documentary is just lazy and ignorant. You crearly are not expert on the topic so do your reaserch.

[dab0331]

@cucarachon even if it's just up the 1980 industry has only exploded as well as the population. u think u would see a noticeable difference in 30 years considering the industrial boom after WW2 was only around 70.

not to mention u seem to be ignoring history. it's been much hotter and much colder in the past without humans. which is obviously due to the sun.

and if u really want to stop global warming i suggest u destroy the wetlands.

[dab0331]

@cucarachon "this video they show that graph where solar activity and temperature increase seem to be parallel, but what they don't tell you is that the graph only goes until 1980 (when the solar activity started to decline)."

ok u lost me here... what's wrong with that??? even if it only went up to the 1980's it's and the solar activity started to decline it's still obviously connected to the sun.

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

How do you explain recent global warming then??? The whole argument falls down. It can only be explained by human activity.

[dab0331]

@cucarachon ok maybe I just misunderstood.

well i'm not sure where u're getting your data from and what time it spans over..

they've already stated that the earth has actually getting cooler either way becuz of hte decrease in sun spots.

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

No its not, its getting hotter. And look, i found a video for you /watch?v=boj9ccV9htk. I dont like using videos but see it.

[dab0331]

@cucarachon when u say it's getting hotter or colder it depends on the time span. temp always flucuates. but c02 has been 10 times higher in earth's past and has never driven climate.

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

With that CO2 10 times greater argument, you are referring to the Ordovician era, in wich there was a lot more of CO2 indeed. Nonetheless, this era was a brief excursion to coldness during an otherwise warm era, due to a coincidence of conditions, actually, if it hadnt been for CO2 during that era, it wouldve been waaaay colder. This fact is completely consistent with climate science and with the antropogenic global warming theory.

[dab0331]

@cucarachon no... if it wasn't for WATER VAPOUR it would of been way colder becuz c02 is such an insignificant gas.

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

Dude i already explained you how water vapor works in the atmosphere, its part of a cylce and you cant increase the amount of water vapor on the atmosphere the way CO2 does. You clearly are running out of arguments. I'm a geogrpaher, I know climatology, i know what im talking about. If you wanna talk about the atmosphere and its gases read a couple of books first... Geez!

[dab0331]

@cucarachon "Nonetheless, this era was a brief excursion to coldness during an otherwise warm era, due to a coincidence of conditions"

did it ever occur to u that there are other coincidences besides c02. like the sun, water vapour, and urbanization, etc?

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

Yes there are, but todays global warming can only be explained by human activity!!! I already told you that

[dab0331]

@cucarachon not to mention plants take in c02 and balance it out

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

thats such a big lie. Humanity and your plants are going to be devastated if we dont act quickly and people like you dont help at all

[dab0331]

@cucarachon umm no... considering that c02 increases plant growth i think not.

not to mention mass extinctions has ALWAYS been a part of earth's history. u can't stop it.

if it's gonna happen it's gonna happen.

[dab0331]

@cucarachon for fucks sake the UN is even now trying to perpetuate the idea that the meat industry is a greater contributor than industry. what fucking bullshit.

fuck the UN and their global government

this is all about total control.

watch?v=BjrdjPCqmqI&feature=fe­edrec_grec_index

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

Actually methane plays a minor role in global warming, altho it is a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2, but there isnt as much methane on the air as CO2. You are just lost my friend. Go study, read a book, I dunno...

[dab0331]

@cucarachon hey i'm not the one saying that. it's the UN. they're the ones behind this manmade c02 global warming bullshit.

it's just a tool for political and economical control on a global level.

[mooninites755]

@cucarachon Co2 pertains to .05% of the earth's atmosphere, you just lost my friend, try watching the video before you spew your crap all over the place

[cucarachon]

@mooninites755

So what? Does that mean the atmosphere cannot be affected by the "tiny" amount of it? We are actually at 390 ppm, the "safety limit" is 350. And i did watch the video and it has a lot of lies and pseudoscience (ive already explained all these mistakes above if you wanna read them).

[dab0331]

@cucarachon there are many variable in global warming. i'm in chicago and it's almost fucking june and i'm freezing my ass off over here.

this shit would usually end mid-april.

there's volcanic activity, sea-volcanic activity, ocean currents, the explosion in urbanization which traps heat, atrological variables etc etc,

c02 is such an insignificant greenhouse gas.

again.. it's like focusing on one nut while ignoring the engine (the sun) and the transmission (water vapour).

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

Yes, there are many variables in global warming, you got that part right, but today's global warming can only be explained by including human activities. There are many reasons of why you could be freezing in Chicago, but i can assure you its not because global warming is fake, Chicago is one place and global warming is about the rising of temperatures of the whole earth!!! just check the data. Youre trying, ill give you that, but its seems that you are just really ignorant and biased

[dab0331]

@cucarachon that would be if c02 ws even a significant greenhouse gas and if c02 actually preceded temperature increase, which is proved false by the ice data.

global warming isn't fake. manmade c02 global warming is

and i could call u biased as well.

the difference is that your side gets all the media attention and lobbying in congress. I've yet to see an honest debagte becuz the media labels all these scientist kooky.

theres mucho money to be made if u can regulate c02 and lots of POWER!

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

Then what was that "Im freezing in Chicago" argument for? There are many honest debates going on, you just have to read scientific journals and articles. What I'm saying is that youre not quite well informed about the topic. And please do explain the ice data, last time i checked, scientists have proven that CO2 didn't initiate warming from past ice ages but it did amplify the warming.

[dab0331]

@cucarachon ok granted. chicago IS only one small part of hte globe. BUTG i'll tell u what isn't. the trapped heat due to the urbanization of the entire world!!!!

any 12 year old knows cities trap heat and that's why chicago doesn't have tornadoes in the actual city like it used to.

[dab0331]

@cucarachon how does increase in c02 explain the cooling after the post war economic boom? there was even a little ice age scare back then around the 60's and 70's and u can find news articles and documentaries about it.

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

Yes there was a brief cooling period on the last century, from 1945 to 1975. But that was due to aereosols originated form high vocanic activity and because there wasnt a limit on industrial emissions. If anything, that period is also a proof that human activity can drive climate.

[dab0331]

@cucarachon i love c02 becuz it helps feed my trees. =)

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

Thinking than cap and trade is some kind of conspiracy against the US economy is also kinda stupid, the US is taking part on the business just as any capitalist shit out there in the world... Just look at Indonesia's peatlands!

But now again, I found it really entertaining, just that, its just some kind of show, it isnt real evidence of anything. If thats your main argument to hold all these statements, then you are completely lost my friend...

[dab0331]

@cucarachon watch?v=jwSodS3Wl2Y

[dab0331]

@cucarachon i love how when we present facts the eco-nazis will scream fraud and things like "leave the science for the scientist." LOL

even after u've showed them plenty of reports and videos of well known scientist saying its all bullshit.

i think history is a perfect example that this is all bullshit. it's been way hotter and way colder in the history of the earth without humans.

worldwide extinction has happened on more than one occasion without us.

[cucarachon]

@dab0331

Dude, the "plant food" argument is old and its been argued and proved to be just some stupid argument. For example, where are we going to take all the water needed to grow this "enhanced" plant grow??; also, its been demonstrated that when plants do benefit from increased CO2, it is only in enclosed areas.

I'm a geographer and ive taken many classes of climatology and meteorology, ive seen climate models predicting global warming because of CO2, not just some stupid video.

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[comanchio1976]

@superslashable what a waste