Prehistoric humans didn't have animal farming. Meat would have been eaten sparingly among most prehistoric human cultures. A vegan diet is actually much more realistic.
@manjon217 Humans have eaten starches like grains, legumes, and root vegetables for hundreds of thousands of years. Our ancestors have eaten fruits and vegetables for 60 million years. There's nothing natural about animal agriculture. It's the reason the Amazon and other rainforests are disappearing and the number 2 cause of global warming; second only to fossil fuels.
1imesub, humans have only been eating grains for 10,000 years. That's not enough time to adapt to grains. Our brains are 150 cubic centimeters SMALLER than our Cro Magnon ancestors who ate a high fat (not high protein) diet.
Ida, our 47 million year old ancestor, ate fruit, leaves and insects. Please don't make up dates. They're important.
We've been eating a lot of meat for 2.6 million ears, since Homo Habilis, and cooking for 1.8 million years, since Homo Erectus.
@2:45 he says his mom for the first time in her life has worn clothes she has not worn since highschool... If its for the first time in her life, then did she actualy wear them in highschool? I think not...
what ever happened to just eating healthy? whole grains, and calcium in milk are very good for you. the reason they felt so good was just because they cut out refined sugars like fructose.
@psyjunta but most dairy is processed and has the hormones and junk in it. I think maybe if you would use raw milk and such like the amish people make, it should be ok. and you know when the federal government is breaking down doors on people trying to make healthy food for themselves, we have a BIG problem. ( search rawsome foods ). but anyway, if you can get raw dairy that hasnt been touched by the FDA, you should be fine. DOWN WITH THE FDA!!
I started a Paleo diet 8 weeks ago. I lost 22 pounds with NO exercise. The only problem I have is my wife keeps trying to feed me none Paleo foods. I used the book Everyday Paleo to start.
@john17972 they didnt have hospitals back then either, back then infection was the leading cause of death now its chronic disease. not to mention they didnt have heated houses, year round produce, and protection from things like bears and large cats, just saying
Okay, I'm just starting this diet now, but my issue is that I don't see the problem with eating natural, fresh dairy products. Greek yogurt, goat cheese, and milk are still good in my book, I don't care what you say.
I eat all raw except lightly seared lean red meat, that's it. I dropped from 222 lbs to 180 lbs. The most important key for me was isolating what foods gave me gas and eliminating them. I also figured out what foods I was allergic too. Don't follow any diet exactly. Take their ideas and test each food and determine what works best for you and your lifestyle. If you are very active and workout heavy you need more meat. Only red meat helps me. I have to workout between each red meat meal.
hey forgot that all cavemen has organic meat. The wild bore was loaded with vitamins and good fats. Todays meat is corn fed heart attack food. Go organic or forget this diet
Yeah that new industry, agriculture. Our bodies need none of that. Agriculture was developed for one reason. To sustain and feed large quantities of people.
Maybe if people would stop overpopulating the planet, we could all live in Dr. Cordain's fantasy world.
Then we could have loads of space to roam and live of the land. Just like hippies!
What give up my creature comforts too? Now you're talking loco.
I am sure our ancestors in Africa had meals that started with a variety of salads followed by a wide selection of meat and vegetables and some fruit salad for dessert. If you want a true cavemen diet you should eat some half-cooked deer meat and eucalyptus leaves. Thank capitalism and globalization you new age scumbags. And yeah, modern day hunter gatherers die from malnutrition, malaria and aids. Their average lifespan is about 46 years. Go ahead, eat like them.
what is all this talk about paleo people being the healthest people, free of disease? sure, you can find bones that seem healthy from these people. where are the bones that show disease? maybe there are those, too, and you have not found them. say you found 2 million black people. does that mean all people are black? maybe the bones you found were from people who died from the cold or from attacks. maybe disease comes from dense population. these generalizations are too much for me.
"findings published in The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences journal, indicate Paleolithic Europeans ground down plant roots similar to potatoes to make flour, whisked into dough. NYTimes Oct 18, 2010 The findings may upset fans of the so-called Paleo diet, which follows earlier research that assumes humans ate a meat-centered diet. grinding stones, each of which fits comfortably into an adult's palm, were discovered at archaeological sites in Italy, Russia and Czech Republic."
@Chrisisms The paleo diet doesn't preclude eating plant roots. It eliminates grains, which are completely different. So, what you're saying doesn't make one bit of sense.
@chaseantarctica "The paleo diet doesn't preclude eating plant roots. It eliminates grains"
Grains are as acidifying as meat and degrade the human digestive system also. Isn't the "paleo diet' just an interest in formulating an in-group for social acquisition more than as a health interest? u don't really believe any amount of meat to replace any amount of blueberries or lettuce offers more protection against digestive disorders or degenerative diseases in general, do u?
The Paleo diet includes consumption of human children, which provides similar health risks to any other meat. "...the 11 cannibalized individuals discovered so far were all children or adolescents." Human Meat Just Another Meal for Early Europeans? James Owen for National Geographic News Aug 31, 2010
Enjoy! For those serious about health and genetic instructions, the Miocene diet is really the one hominidae co-evolved with fruit to establish digestive systems that digest fruit best to this day.
@Chrisisms You're clearly not paying attention. The paleo diet is not about replicating paleolithic eating habits or behaviors. It's about using what we know of diets throughout the course of human evolution to make better informed decisions about what our bodies are best suited to process.
Fact is you need ZERO carbs in your diet. Your body is the most wonderful chemistry laboratory because it can make glucose from any food source. Protein, Fats and Carbohydrates can be used by the body to make glucose in the required amounts, as and when you need it. Good fats such as coconut is a far better source for energy without spiking blood sugars as carbohydrates do. You can get all your carbs from vegetables.
@Gaait12 In modern times that's absolutely correct. Most of our ancestors had that sweet tooth, though, to enable them to get fatter during summer and withstand seasonal changes. Trying to get fat on protein and fat is just impossible :)
1 thing you forgot to mention is that you have to eat meat that is not domesticated and you have to eat organic fruits and veggies to make the caveman diet complete.. Yes it works..
@irishchrisc fact is that if you got infected with something, there wasn't a dr to treat you or steril ANYTHING around. They didn't get disease from their diet
@blt7791 What? Not one caveman got Salmonella, E-coli, Ringworm etc off of the raw meat they ate? Not to mention a lot of other diseases that the animal may have had? Don't be so naive. Don't believe everything you read. I am on the fence about this "diet". That means I am objective, and don't believe everything without independent research.
@irishchrisc Of course bacteria and parasites lived in meat too back then and any human could get infected. However, it seems they didn't get *degenerative* (life-style) diseases like we do (diabetes 2, obesity, etc). Besides, humans master fire and cook food. Present day hunter-gatherers do that too. Don't you have a television? Even frying your veggies can have its benefits bacteria- and nutritionwise. BTW, don't call people naive if you don't want to be called ignorant.
Lemon and garlic may reduce oxidative stress from meat.
"So good!"
Cancer isn't good.
"Make some jerky if you want"
red or preserved meat may increase various cancer risks due to content of fat, pro, heme Fe or preparation (cooking or preserving). Colon cancer is associated w/N-nitroso compound exposure, dose-dependently related to the amount of red meat. Environ Mol Mutagen. 2004;44(1):44-55.
@Chrisisms I am never constipated, inflamed or anxious, unless I eat grains.
You sound like you are on some sort of anti-meat crusade. Oh well, who cares what you think! :)
I love my red meat and raw fish all the way!!!
You do sound a little grumpy, well maybe your constipated, inflamed and anxious.
The cave man diet has eliminated all of my health problems from a traditional "healthy" diet by eliminating grains, bean, lentils and almost all dairy. It works well for me.
'Never' could be always.. u really never have <2 bowel movements/day, hard/dry stool, arduous bowel movements, sensations of incomplete evacuation, strong odor, etc?
"unless I eat grains"
Grains w/fiber cause constipation but meat doesn't?
"sound like you are on some sort of anti-meat crusade'
What sound? The topic is digestion. Do u have experience w/raw plant diets?
@XCritonX "love my red meat" and acidosis. "raw fish all the way!!!" Pure cheerleading.. "You do sound a little grumpy" The sound you hear is not from me. "The cave man" Was H. neanderthalensis, extinct/outcompeted by direct lineage partly because of cave dwelling outside ecological niche. "..almost all dairy" So u even lack experience w/a 'caveman diet'. As figured. "It works well for me" u haven't tried.
great video, I was on cooked paleo for a year, now I am on raw paleo and have been on it for 3 months and it is so much better than cooked paleo. Bring on the raw meat!
um, so what was the average lifespan of a caveman? From all the books I've read in SCHOOL, their lives were rather short. And that chick is hot, why is she on a diet?
i discovered this way of eating on my own and i can tell you for sure that it works better than any other diet out there. i went from 196 to 128 (at 128 i had veins on my abs). i fell off the wagon a few months ago and im starting to lose my abbies! i need to go back to caveman style!
meh, the newest fad. essentially a fancy way of saying "no-carb". But also take into account that Cavemen probably wouldn't have the desire to hit the treadmill. This diet would suit an active lifestyle to accomodate the amount of natural sugars, proteins and fibre that they ate. And no more preservatives can't hurt either.
@BrokeredHeart You could not be more incorrect. To say that it's a fad implies it's both NEW and has a massive marketing campaign behind it shoving it down people's throats.
The Paleo Diet is not a fad NOR is it new. It's not intended to make you lose weight (weight loss is merely a side effect of the lifestyle itself) - it's a change away from the crap you are likely eating every single meal. There are tons of carbs, fats, and proteins in a proper Paleo Diet.
@BrokeredHeart Your post also implies the "cave men" were sitting around on their rear ends all day long, languishing in the sun. This too could not be further from reality - physical evidence suggests paleolithic man was extremely active (hence HUNTER /GATHERER) and was likely stronger, on average, than we are today. Many hunters would RUN their prey to exhaustion (think deer, horse, etc) before going in for the kill. Running on a treadmill?? HAHAHA
@BellaaMarlene 20-25 years maybe? I don't know where you pulled 15 years out of. You do realize that death was caused by things like germs, disease, trauma, etc. rather than lack of nutrients/bad diet?
@BellaaMarlene This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. You have done zero research. Go hunt for ALL your own food while getting nothing from the store, treat yourself for any medical needs with no medication and don't use a fridge...ever. Not to mention if you don't find anyhting to kill that has fur, you will more than likely freeze to death during the winter. Also drink water that animals probably bathe in and then live to be 50 or 60. Yeah, this diet is probably what killed them
@apocalist420 Exactly!!! Which would help attribute to their low life expectancy!!! BellaMarlene was making it seem as if their diet was the only reason they lived to be 25 or 30. I am saying that their environment was the reason they had such short live spans.
@mikaeel6 We drink milk from other species because we have figured out how to produce and make the milk of other species widely available. I'd be perfectly fine with sucking on some nipples to get my milk, it's just not that common of a practice.
As a diabetic on the paleo diet I have been able to get off of my kidney destroying medication. My doctor's mad because I no longer need the med. Plus I lost 45 pounds. i live on the seventh floor in NYC I ran up the stairs carrying BIG watermelon. My 13 year old daughter was behind me yelling wait for me. This diet works and it saved my life.
@PersonOfBook Research findings provide ample indications that hunter gatherers were very healthy. They were taller, had better builds and bigger brains. Although their life expectancy was shorter, deaths were often caused by outside factors such as extreme weather conditions, accidents, infections, and predatory animals. They did not suffer from chronic or degenerative diseases such as diabetes, cancer or heart disease. These diseases emerged only when we shifted to agriculture.
@PersonOfBook Foods as close to nature as possible; fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, meat, eggs, fish etc. If you are looking for recipes you can check out the paleo cookbooks - paleocookbook-com
@CBRADIOLOVER "like organic meats and gojiberries and stuff like that?"
Stuff like that? Meat causes diabetes and atherosclerosis but goji prevents those.
"Lycium barbarum polysaccharides", which showed antioxidative properties and some interesting pharmacological activities in the context of age related diseases such as atherosclerosis and diabetes" Planta Med. 2010 Jan;76(1):7-19. Epub 2009 Oct 20.
meat is to goji as oxidative stress is to antioxidant.
Greater dietary heme-iron intake was associated w/ increased risk of Type 2 diabetes" -Diabetologia,47,(2) Feb, 2004
Positive associations were also observed between type 2 diabetes and red meat" -Arch Internal Med. 2004;164:2235.
Also, meat instead of raw plant intake promotes weight gain indirectly, associated w/tDB2.
Raw/whole fruit promotes insulin response but meat impairs insulin response causing pancreas to work harder longterm, like all the other organs when trying to digest meat.
Chrisisms, your beliefs might be so unconventional that they're considered absurd. However, it may be the case that you're right about your fruit diet. I am not knowledgeable enough to distinguish the difference. But, i'll continue eating massive amounts of fruit because they taste so much better than hostess products.
I did paleo (plus whey protein powder) for a couple of months. Certainly, it's easy to lose weight this way--largely from cutting out so many refined sugars. However, I don't completely understand or agree that it's good simply because it's the original human diet. Can our bodies distinguish the carbs of an apple from a potato's? Do our bodies really prefer the protein of meat rather than milk even though we've evolved lactase to digest the milk of a cow?
Protohumans and primate ancestors co-evolved w/fruit and humans still digest fruit best as it reverses meat diseases.
'Can our bodies distinguish the carbs of an apple from a potato's?'
Apple has simple sugars/potato has complex carbs.
'we've evolved lactase to digest the milk of a cow?'
Some humans have a duplicate lactase enzyme to digest dairy sugar, it doesn't mean humans evolved to digest bovine casomorphine, cholesterol, high fat, IGF1, etc.
Yeah, I heard the claim about 'controlling her diabetis' but when they want to get serious about it they'll shed the meat fixation if they really want to control diabetes.
Greater dietary heme-iron intake and/or supplemental iron were associated w/ increased risk of Type 2 diabetes" -Diabetologia,47,(2) Feb, 2004
Direct primate lineage for tens of millions of yrs co-evolved with fruit production and before that were arboreal herbivores (like most arboreal species). So how did your digestion change to digest meat as fruit and are you claiming to be a different species? Nobody has named ONE genetic mutation that qualifies them as carnivores or natural scavengers.
Humans still digest fruit best with opposing digestive processes to reverse diseases from meat.
Millions of yrs before the ice age, human digestive system was already established. Changes of weather and radiating out of ecological niche do not cause digestive system overhauls. There are no such examples in nature, much less among humans. During the ice age fruit still existed (believe it or not) and direct ancestors still ate predominently plants for the most part. To this day the avg human still eats ~81% plants, despite the recent increase in animal consumption.
Where did they come from? I don't know much about the subject, but it seems that if all the fruit trees died out in the 1,000's of years of ice, then where do modern native fruits come from?
Direct lineage generally didn't live in caves (except for isolated cases). H. neanderthalensis retreated to the caves more often during that small window of time after the Miocene epoch, in which human digestive system was already established before hunting and was already optimized for fruit.
It's amazing how selective culturists are in assuming grains are natural, yet they consume meat anyway...
There was no debate. There is only your socio-il-logical information-intolerance. Turkey has NOTHING to do with natural food for humans. It is merely custom not genetic instruction. So go consume the fowl but don't act like u know anything about natural diet or health.
"Pepsin degrades proteins in general. Protein is in all fruit. Pepsin is for digesting fruit specifically. No meat-specific enzymes exist."
Chrisisms
It's a good thing my body produces all of those meat-specific enzymes: I got cowase, fishase chickenase and eggase! Too bad my body sucks at producing chocolatase and icecreamase.
@blancaflor74 "It's a good thing my body produces all of those meat-specific enzymes"
Humans do not produce the uricase enzyme (among others) that all natural meat eaters have to convert dietary purines to UA as an antioxidant instead of a source of a toxin in those humans foolishly consuming meat, despite the rampant degenerative diseases caused by the custom.
"Man, you guys are geeking out pretty hard! :)"
While it is fashionable to consume animal tissue, it is unhealthy. I'll stay a geek.
@Chrisisms since you want to get geeky, I'll have to ask you why you posted erroneous info. Urate oxidase doesn't catalyze the formation of UA; it breaks UA down to 5-hydroxyisourate. So, you're wrong about humans not having much UA. Higher UA levels in humans is actually an evolutionary advantage, because UA acts as an antioxidant. Furthermore, this lack of ability to break down UA is the reason why humans can develop gout.. Your erroneous info renders your whole conversation null and void.
@Chrisisms That was nowhere near ad hominem, however I didn't mean to put words in your mouth regarding the 'humans do not have much UA'. It wasn't my motive behind no inline responses. Since you've already proved yourself wrong with your first response to me, I'm just not that into the debate. I win.
Have fun with your argument and have even more fun getting diarrhea from your all-fruit diet. I'd suggest investing in baby wipes. I wish you luck in convincing yourself that you're right.
I'm not offended, nonetheless it was an attempt to insult person while ignoring topic= ad hominem.
"I didn't mean to put words in your mouth regarding the 'humans do not have much UA'
Humans synthesize/"have" ALL their UA. The issue is humans don't have UA enzymes to digest UA from meat safely. But u posted irrelevant info about the mechanism of breaking down dietary UA for carnivores, instead.
All great apes (including humans) digest fruit and direct lineage co-evolved for tens of millions of years with fruit as flowering plants were evolving. All extant hominoidea are frugivores, digesting fruit best.
0:17 - You only eat fruit that was available in the environment which we actually evolved'
By the Paleolithic era the frugivorous digestive system was already established, well before tool use and fire kindling among direct lineage. Only micro-evolutionary changes have occurred since the Paleolithic era. Supplementing plant based diet with meat did not cause a digestive overhaul. Meat still causes diseases in many ways.
bullshit, your obviously a vegan or vegitarian trying to spew your propaganda. we evolved from an almost purely carnivorous diet into one of local plants and fruits once the slowing of the ice ages made vegitation more plentiful
'By the Paleolithic era the frugivorous digestive system was already established'
raztis- 'bullshit'
Thanks for the scientific rebuttal, u cultural clone. Please provide some hypothesis that tries to explain how your variant changed digestive systems. Hint: The genetic distance between frugivorous ancestors before the recent Paleolithic era is less than 1%. Humans still digest fruit best with opposing digestive processes to meat.
Do you have any useful info to add? I'm talking science.
oh so the collagen dissolving enzymes within the stomach that is specific for breaking down animal fats is opposing, huh? your just another "hopeful follower" thats gonna believe anything your biased scientists have to say. Neandertal man was almost purely carnivorous, when cro-magnon came into the picture, the intelligence allowed them to gather and compensate for lack of herds. Its strange how 90% of all paleo and biologists agree with me, and u follow a few crazies..
There is no enzyme called 'collagen dissolving enzyme' and as covered, there is NO meat specific enzyme within human beings, which is precisely why you are vague enough to avoid claiming any specific such enzyme, instead just throwing a temper tantrum, again..
'90% of all paleo and biologists agree with me'
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You haven't made a clear claim even. Your'e just cheer leading for meat. Humans still digest fruit best but resorted to meat when food was low.
the stomach contains many enzymes including pepsin specific to breaking down protiens, gelatinase which is specific to hydrolysing gelatin which breaks down proteoglycan only found in meat. the pancreas contains elastases which break down elastin (a protien in connective tissue of animals), even the small intestine contains intestinal lipase that helps with digestion of fatty acids.
to say "there is no enzyme" is simply false. big words dont make smart people
yes yes u can find little specifics to try and find reasons to argue the fact, that these enzymes main purpose is breaking down collagen elastase and fat. scientists and doctors agree that this is what these are for. i bet you hunt through the bible to find reasons to not eat meat too, because you warp the facts to prove an illegitimate point. of course elastase breaks down protien in milk, but it also breaks down meat, and both products come from animals, and meat came well before cows milk did
'u can find little specifics to try and find reasons to argue the fact, that these enzymes main purpose is breaking down collagen'
I just did explain it. Reread. Again, there are no meat-specific enzymes. In fact, there are some enzymes missing to digest meat... Such as uricase. So humans can't process uric acid and are subject to gout.
In summary, there remains no meat specific enzymes and humans are lacking the enzymes of real meat eaters, so humans still get sick from meat.
the enzymes i listed are there to break down meat, and the fact is a strictly vegan/fuo diet is dangerous to our health. it doesnt reach the needed requirements of calcium, b-12(only in meat and yeast and yeast wasnt available to early man) , zinc, and protien all of which causes severe health problems if not supplemented. Hense why vegans and frugos have to constantly supplement food items so they can be healthy, and if they didnt have that ability (like before modern technology) they die
'the enzymes i listed are there to break down meat'
Begging the question. I refuted your claim that there are any enzymes that are meat specific. I responded by providing information about enzymes humans do NOT have, which are necessary for real meat-eaters to break down meat without disease risk.
Please provide ONE enzyme that is meat specific because the enzymes you listed were in cows too! Thank you for staying on topic.
Consume meat if you want, just don't call it natural or healthy.
I tried your enculturated diet, I was occassionally sick, as many omniconfused socialites are with a mixed diet. But with a fruit based diet I NEVER get sick.
then it sounds like theres smoething wrong with you and you should seek medical attention. as for the rest of us, if we were to switch to a purely frugo diet with no hardcore supplementing of needed meat bearing vitamins i.e B12, zinc, higher levels of protien...we would get sick or even die.
I NEVER get sick and I exercise EVERY day. I have NEVER met anyone healthier at my age. I eat more antioxidants in a day than u do in a week! I even sloughed moles. I no longer have allergy trouble like I did prior to dropping protein intake.
'you should seek medical attention'
My blood pressure dropped 10 points and is slightly lower than avg. I don't even get hicups, much less colds and flues. I no longer have foot odor, etc.
@JoshRom 'I'd bet money you have the shits like a runway model'
And I'd take your money. Fruit is digested best. I have no stomach aches before, no growling stomach, no hemorrhoids or acidosis, no noisome flatulence, no runs nor arduous bowel movements. I am regular, with 2.8 bowel movements/day.
Your comment exposes your inexperience with a raw fruit based diet, as opposed to a cooked bean or meat diet.
More flatulence, harder/drier stools and stomach aches correlate with less fruit intake.
the fact is, yes we originally came from herbivorous animals, moved to insectivores and frugovores, and then evolved into the first humans who were omnivore, but since being humans our diet has always consisted of an omnivorous diet, we have never been purely herbivorous since we evolved into humans, binocular vision, intestinal receptors for heme iron, high efa and b12 requirements, humans cannot naturally live as vegan, u ship foods all year round and take vitamins to reach it, not natural.
'the fact is, yes we originally came from herbivorous animals'
And then ancestors co-evolved with fruit starting ~40 million yrs ago as frugivores. Since establishing a frugivorous digestive system tens of millions of yrs ago, the recent Paleolithic era didn't cause a digestive system overhaul and humans retain over 99% of the genes of the Miocene ancestors, still frugivores getting sick from meat to this day. Micro-evolution did not cause prevent humans from getting sick from meat.
well u can believe your scientists and il believe the brunt of the scientific community and we can agree to disagree. but i would like to see you try this so called "natural way" and go out into your woods, and only eat the fruits in the area, no shipping or buying of fruits, no taking vitamins, and il eat only the plants, fruits, and animals in my area and in a year we can see whos healthier.. oh. wait. you would be dead.because over the last 50 million yrs we have evolved into omnivores
humans were almost purely carnivorous by 2.5 million yrs ago Speth (1991 Pg. 265)
(Grine 1981; McHenry 1982; S. Ambrose, pers. comm.). states that human anatomy dramaticall changed from the foliovore diet of similar apes
even the fucking encyclopedia explains that pepsin creates rennin (for milk) and gastric lipase for breaking down protiens IN FAT, your just attempting to push parental milk as the cause for this enzyme but the body produces rennin for that not elastase or gastric lipase
'human anatomy dramaticall changed from the folivore diet of similar apes even the..'
Please name just ONE mutagenic change in 'human anatomy' that caused your lineage to be carnivores. HINT: THERE ARE NONE. Humans remain frugivores, digesting fruit best. If you want to start a new religion, fine. Just don't call it healthy or natural. Fruit will ALWAYS reverse meat diseases, regardless of how much you want social acceptance for consuming mutated cows!
your ideology is obviously strewn with propaganda from biased fanatial animal rights groups. a person cannot live off of local fruit alone without serious compensation, a human works best when eating a omnivorous diet that includes meats. its just fact, you can spew your biased scientific research all u want, i can find scientist that sais smoking wasnt bad too. get over yourself..
'our diet has always consisted of an omnivorous diet'
Not always and it has been distorted by cultural practices. Humans digest raw fruit best, still. You may introduce as much pig tissue into your diet as you wish. This won't alter the frugivorous digestive system already established. The genetic distance between humans and relatively recent, tree-dwelling ancestors in Africa is less than 1%. And no meat supplements since then has caused a digestive overhaul. Fruit still cures meat diseases.
'I'd like to talk to a paleobotanist to find out what potential plant species would have been mostly commonly eaten by our ancestors'
It depends how far back you go. It is not so important that a specific plant is sought after. The main thing is rich soil and varied, organic plants including RIPE fruit.
i got EPIC results in regards to fat loss, etc. however, i've noticed that i'm VERY insulin insensitive now (...or is it sensitive? ... whatever the 1 is where you gain a fckload of fat VERY easily from dairy & carbs minus fruit/veggies.) so, i've fcked myself over (had some dairy & carbs 1day & noticed what happened) & will NEVER be able to do this eating plan again. =( i REALLY want to continue doing it, as i feel GREAT whilst on it! =) but i don't wanna fck my body over again. =S
That sort of thing can happen when your body gets used to a certain way of eating and then you drastically change. It is my assumption that you didn't just have "a little" carbs one day, but you probably overindulged, maybe all weekend long (or longer). I'm also willing to bet that your were sort of "peer pressured" into breaking your discipline by unwitting friends or family that didn't mean you any harm. I know very well what it's like, we're in the same shoes.
This has become a lifetime commitment for me and I struggle with it all the time. The struggle does get easier the longer you stick with it though. Think about those epic results and decide if it's worth making a permanent change to keep them. What's really fcking your body over are the dairy and the carbs to begin with.
that is, for all intents and purposes, the sexiest guineapig I have ever laid eyes upon..
kylebossify 1 month ago
like beg food
surendergupta74 1 month ago
Prehistoric humans didn't have animal farming. Meat would have been eaten sparingly among most prehistoric human cultures. A vegan diet is actually much more realistic.
1imesub 2 months ago
@1imesub Yes because soy, beans, and bread products existed back then right?
manjon217 2 months ago
@manjon217 Humans have eaten starches like grains, legumes, and root vegetables for hundreds of thousands of years. Our ancestors have eaten fruits and vegetables for 60 million years. There's nothing natural about animal agriculture. It's the reason the Amazon and other rainforests are disappearing and the number 2 cause of global warming; second only to fossil fuels.
1imesub 2 months ago
1imesub, humans have only been eating grains for 10,000 years. That's not enough time to adapt to grains. Our brains are 150 cubic centimeters SMALLER than our Cro Magnon ancestors who ate a high fat (not high protein) diet.
Ida, our 47 million year old ancestor, ate fruit, leaves and insects. Please don't make up dates. They're important.
We've been eating a lot of meat for 2.6 million ears, since Homo Habilis, and cooking for 1.8 million years, since Homo Erectus.
AppleSouffle 3 weeks ago
@2:45 he says his mom for the first time in her life has worn clothes she has not worn since highschool... If its for the first time in her life, then did she actualy wear them in highschool? I think not...
dividemynameintwo 3 months ago
the "cavemen" would've eaten whatever they could've found; they weren't "on to anything"
JosiahSCooper 3 months ago
what ever happened to just eating healthy? whole grains, and calcium in milk are very good for you. the reason they felt so good was just because they cut out refined sugars like fructose.
lilcheevous 4 months ago
just because you're a doctor does not mean you're not an idiot... plus people are starving cretins... eat less and move your fat asses....
donlaszloo 4 months ago
@psyjunta but most dairy is processed and has the hormones and junk in it. I think maybe if you would use raw milk and such like the amish people make, it should be ok. and you know when the federal government is breaking down doors on people trying to make healthy food for themselves, we have a BIG problem. ( search rawsome foods ). but anyway, if you can get raw dairy that hasnt been touched by the FDA, you should be fine. DOWN WITH THE FDA!!
2late4thisshat 5 months ago
movie..old school 1:47
666MM420 8 months ago
I started a Paleo diet 8 weeks ago. I lost 22 pounds with NO exercise. The only problem I have is my wife keeps trying to feed me none Paleo foods. I used the book Everyday Paleo to start.
Wolftc271 8 months ago
Noah lived to 900 sumthin, what was his diet?
john17972 8 months ago
@john17972 No proof Noah ever existed. The Bible is a book of lies.
muggycheetos 8 months ago
my meat can be part of her paleo diet
1989eob 8 months ago
She is Gorgeous .... from Australia !!
ThePhantomLash 9 months ago
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john17972 9 months ago
@john17972 they didnt have hospitals back then either, back then infection was the leading cause of death now its chronic disease. not to mention they didnt have heated houses, year round produce, and protection from things like bears and large cats, just saying
1989eob 8 months ago
@1989eobi cant figure out how they managed to survive Brucellosis unless the diet provided protection.
datzfast 5 months ago
@john17972 That's cause they eventually got eaten by tigers and bears :P
seamonster327 8 months ago
is it just me or did she get hotter!!!!
007Kumabear 9 months ago 10
Okay, I'm just starting this diet now, but my issue is that I don't see the problem with eating natural, fresh dairy products. Greek yogurt, goat cheese, and milk are still good in my book, I don't care what you say.
mealchan 10 months ago
I eat all raw except lightly seared lean red meat, that's it. I dropped from 222 lbs to 180 lbs. The most important key for me was isolating what foods gave me gas and eliminating them. I also figured out what foods I was allergic too. Don't follow any diet exactly. Take their ideas and test each food and determine what works best for you and your lifestyle. If you are very active and workout heavy you need more meat. Only red meat helps me. I have to workout between each red meat meal.
MormonManUtah 10 months ago
hey forgot that all cavemen has organic meat. The wild bore was loaded with vitamins and good fats. Todays meat is corn fed heart attack food. Go organic or forget this diet
probe26 11 months ago 2
Yeah that new industry, agriculture. Our bodies need none of that. Agriculture was developed for one reason. To sustain and feed large quantities of people.
Maybe if people would stop overpopulating the planet, we could all live in Dr. Cordain's fantasy world.
Then we could have loads of space to roam and live of the land. Just like hippies!
What give up my creature comforts too? Now you're talking loco.
Good luck, stick with it.
33dionysus 11 months ago
lol, hipsters
Quex01 1 year ago
gave man/ Caucus mountain. Get it? white people comes from Caucus mountain. Caucasians, Edom, Idumea, Edmotes stated in bible?
midnitecruiser44 1 year ago
ima go on the african diet
MrBum4life 1 year ago
this one time i ate a goldfish that tasted like an oreo, but i was super stoned
DukeMcManhands 1 year ago
I am sure our ancestors in Africa had meals that started with a variety of salads followed by a wide selection of meat and vegetables and some fruit salad for dessert. If you want a true cavemen diet you should eat some half-cooked deer meat and eucalyptus leaves. Thank capitalism and globalization you new age scumbags. And yeah, modern day hunter gatherers die from malnutrition, malaria and aids. Their average lifespan is about 46 years. Go ahead, eat like them.
MrRefuckulation 1 year ago
@MrRefuckulation lol you're funny. keep eating your standard american drone food
chaseantarctica 1 year ago
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mert227 1 year ago
what is all this talk about paleo people being the healthest people, free of disease? sure, you can find bones that seem healthy from these people. where are the bones that show disease? maybe there are those, too, and you have not found them. say you found 2 million black people. does that mean all people are black? maybe the bones you found were from people who died from the cold or from attacks. maybe disease comes from dense population. these generalizations are too much for me.
hbvcrbtkzueirf 1 year ago
"findings published in The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences journal, indicate Paleolithic Europeans ground down plant roots similar to potatoes to make flour, whisked into dough. NYTimes Oct 18, 2010 The findings may upset fans of the so-called Paleo diet, which follows earlier research that assumes humans ate a meat-centered diet. grinding stones, each of which fits comfortably into an adult's palm, were discovered at archaeological sites in Italy, Russia and Czech Republic."
Chrisisms 1 year ago
@Chrisisms The paleo diet doesn't preclude eating plant roots. It eliminates grains, which are completely different. So, what you're saying doesn't make one bit of sense.
chaseantarctica 1 year ago
@chaseantarctica "The paleo diet doesn't preclude eating plant roots. It eliminates grains"
Grains are as acidifying as meat and degrade the human digestive system also. Isn't the "paleo diet' just an interest in formulating an in-group for social acquisition more than as a health interest? u don't really believe any amount of meat to replace any amount of blueberries or lettuce offers more protection against digestive disorders or degenerative diseases in general, do u?
Chrisisms 11 months ago
The Paleo diet includes consumption of human children, which provides similar health risks to any other meat. "...the 11 cannibalized individuals discovered so far were all children or adolescents." Human Meat Just Another Meal for Early Europeans? James Owen for National Geographic News Aug 31, 2010
Enjoy! For those serious about health and genetic instructions, the Miocene diet is really the one hominidae co-evolved with fruit to establish digestive systems that digest fruit best to this day.
Chrisisms 1 year ago
@Chrisisms You're clearly not paying attention. The paleo diet is not about replicating paleolithic eating habits or behaviors. It's about using what we know of diets throughout the course of human evolution to make better informed decisions about what our bodies are best suited to process.
chaseantarctica 1 year ago
damn that girl is pretty fine there ...I wouldnt mind hooking up with her :)
sinsukiller 1 year ago
OMFG I want to do this just to refine my taste buds!
sialuab 1 year ago
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a4sline1 1 year ago
The whole "caveman" term is faulty. We didn't live in caves. We where nomads untill we learned how to make farms. So we hunted first.
Zambaku 1 year ago
@Zambaku Yeah but "So easy a nomad could do it" doesn't have the same feel.
meshlife88 1 year ago
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@Zambaku Yeah but "So easy a nomad can do it" doesn't have the same feel.
meshlife88 1 year ago
Hi All
Fact is you need ZERO carbs in your diet. Your body is the most wonderful chemistry laboratory because it can make glucose from any food source. Protein, Fats and Carbohydrates can be used by the body to make glucose in the required amounts, as and when you need it. Good fats such as coconut is a far better source for energy without spiking blood sugars as carbohydrates do. You can get all your carbs from vegetables.
kind regards
Dr. Gerald Veurink
"Treating Degenerative Diseases"
Gaait12 1 year ago
@Gaait12 In modern times that's absolutely correct. Most of our ancestors had that sweet tooth, though, to enable them to get fatter during summer and withstand seasonal changes. Trying to get fat on protein and fat is just impossible :)
hrvad 1 year ago
1 thing you forgot to mention is that you have to eat meat that is not domesticated and you have to eat organic fruits and veggies to make the caveman diet complete.. Yes it works..
TrueGreatness73 1 year ago
Hmm, wasn't the average ago for a caveman no more than 30?
irishchrisc 1 year ago
@irishchrisc
thats because you had to hunt for your food, shelter was harder to come by and if you got hurt...what DR. would be there?
blt7791 1 year ago
@blt7791 Fact is, most died from disease. Even the women died at around 30. shelter was not a problem, if you lived in a warmer climate.
irishchrisc 1 year ago
@irishchrisc fact is that if you got infected with something, there wasn't a dr to treat you or steril ANYTHING around. They didn't get disease from their diet
blt7791 1 year ago
@blt7791 What? Not one caveman got Salmonella, E-coli, Ringworm etc off of the raw meat they ate? Not to mention a lot of other diseases that the animal may have had? Don't be so naive. Don't believe everything you read. I am on the fence about this "diet". That means I am objective, and don't believe everything without independent research.
irishchrisc 1 year ago
@irishchrisc Of course bacteria and parasites lived in meat too back then and any human could get infected. However, it seems they didn't get *degenerative* (life-style) diseases like we do (diabetes 2, obesity, etc). Besides, humans master fire and cook food. Present day hunter-gatherers do that too. Don't you have a television? Even frying your veggies can have its benefits bacteria- and nutritionwise. BTW, don't call people naive if you don't want to be called ignorant.
hrvad 1 year ago
@hrvad I was writing in the context that I replied to a question. Sorry if I did not met your sensitivity requirements.
irishchrisc 1 year ago
@hrvad I hold my hands up. I did not watch the whole video. It was tagged as a related video to people endorsing eating raw meat. Sorry again.
irishchrisc 1 year ago
@irishchrisc correlation does not equal causation. nice try though
chaseantarctica 1 year ago
Yeah you can get grassfed meat delivered to your door at Pasture Raised (dot)) net
iamthecountry 1 year ago
The Caveman Diet? All I eat is cavemen, well I did until they all went extinct.
On a serious note, I love raw meat and raw fish, with a little lemon and garlic. So good! Make some jerky if you want something more portable.
XCritonX 1 year ago
"I love raw meat"
u love constipation, inflammation & anxiety.
"with a little lemon and garlic"
Lemon and garlic may reduce oxidative stress from meat.
"So good!"
Cancer isn't good.
"Make some jerky if you want"
red or preserved meat may increase various cancer risks due to content of fat, pro, heme Fe or preparation (cooking or preserving). Colon cancer is associated w/N-nitroso compound exposure, dose-dependently related to the amount of red meat. Environ Mol Mutagen. 2004;44(1):44-55.
Chrisisms 11 months ago
@Chrisisms I am never constipated, inflamed or anxious, unless I eat grains.
You sound like you are on some sort of anti-meat crusade. Oh well, who cares what you think! :)
I love my red meat and raw fish all the way!!!
You do sound a little grumpy, well maybe your constipated, inflamed and anxious.
The cave man diet has eliminated all of my health problems from a traditional "healthy" diet by eliminating grains, bean, lentils and almost all dairy. It works well for me.
XCritonX 11 months ago
"I am never constipated, inflamed or anxious"
'Never' could be always.. u really never have <2 bowel movements/day, hard/dry stool, arduous bowel movements, sensations of incomplete evacuation, strong odor, etc?
"unless I eat grains"
Grains w/fiber cause constipation but meat doesn't?
"sound like you are on some sort of anti-meat crusade'
What sound? The topic is digestion. Do u have experience w/raw plant diets?
"Oh well, who cares what you think! :)"
Oh well, who cares what relatives u kill :)
Chrisisms 11 months ago
Chrisisms 11 months ago
@Chrisisms wow
VictorsAmazing 11 months ago
great video, I was on cooked paleo for a year, now I am on raw paleo and have been on it for 3 months and it is so much better than cooked paleo. Bring on the raw meat!
alickamoso1 1 year ago
Hmmm now where do i find Mammoth meat?
AlphaEntChi 1 year ago
so basicaly his mom went to high school during the stone age? causet hats what i got from it
Garett0439 1 year ago
um, so what was the average lifespan of a caveman? From all the books I've read in SCHOOL, their lives were rather short. And that chick is hot, why is she on a diet?
rabidrino 1 year ago
where do you get calcium from the caveman diet
mg2og 1 year ago
i discovered this way of eating on my own and i can tell you for sure that it works better than any other diet out there. i went from 196 to 128 (at 128 i had veins on my abs). i fell off the wagon a few months ago and im starting to lose my abbies! i need to go back to caveman style!
dougerber 1 year ago
meh, the newest fad. essentially a fancy way of saying "no-carb". But also take into account that Cavemen probably wouldn't have the desire to hit the treadmill. This diet would suit an active lifestyle to accomodate the amount of natural sugars, proteins and fibre that they ate. And no more preservatives can't hurt either.
BrokeredHeart 1 year ago
@BrokeredHeart You could not be more incorrect. To say that it's a fad implies it's both NEW and has a massive marketing campaign behind it shoving it down people's throats.
The Paleo Diet is not a fad NOR is it new. It's not intended to make you lose weight (weight loss is merely a side effect of the lifestyle itself) - it's a change away from the crap you are likely eating every single meal. There are tons of carbs, fats, and proteins in a proper Paleo Diet.
BlackhawkFitness 1 year ago
@BrokeredHeart Your post also implies the "cave men" were sitting around on their rear ends all day long, languishing in the sun. This too could not be further from reality - physical evidence suggests paleolithic man was extremely active (hence HUNTER /GATHERER) and was likely stronger, on average, than we are today. Many hunters would RUN their prey to exhaustion (think deer, horse, etc) before going in for the kill. Running on a treadmill?? HAHAHA
BlackhawkFitness 1 year ago
imagine seeing a caveman eating a big mac :D
vireak209 1 year ago
he ment bakeing soda....i think:|
mobutul 1 year ago
how did you eat your SODA ? #LOL
HIDDENTECH2 1 year ago
Haha when you're not eating soda. I'd die if I didn't eat a can of Soda a day or so.
Peter421 1 year ago
Did that one guy say eating soda wft
IMAPERSONLOL 1 year ago
very cool!!
bdruckus 1 year ago
id hit her over the head wit my club and drag her to my cave
deogunz 1 year ago
Girl, I can make you feel even more full in a way that food can't...
CleverDjembe 1 year ago
cavemens' average lifespan was 15 years. no paleo diet for me ever
BellaaMarlene 1 year ago
@BellaaMarlene 20-25 years maybe? I don't know where you pulled 15 years out of. You do realize that death was caused by things like germs, disease, trauma, etc. rather than lack of nutrients/bad diet?
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MattP12 1 year ago
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@BellaaMarlene This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. You have done zero research. Go hunt for ALL your own food while getting nothing from the store, treat yourself for any medical needs with no medication and don't use a fridge...ever. Not to mention if you don't find anyhting to kill that has fur, you will more than likely freeze to death during the winter. Also drink water that animals probably bathe in and then live to be 50 or 60. Yeah, this diet is probably what killed them
MattP12 1 year ago
@MattP12 your not describing the diet, your describing the environment.
apocalist420 1 year ago
@apocalist420 Exactly!!! Which would help attribute to their low life expectancy!!! BellaMarlene was making it seem as if their diet was the only reason they lived to be 25 or 30. I am saying that their environment was the reason they had such short live spans.
MattP12 1 year ago
@MattP12 Oh heh, now I see.
apocalist420 1 year ago
And to psyjunta what about lactose intolerance. Plus why are humans the only species that consumes the mothers milk of other species?
mikaeel6 1 year ago
@mikaeel6 We drink milk from other species because we have figured out how to produce and make the milk of other species widely available. I'd be perfectly fine with sucking on some nipples to get my milk, it's just not that common of a practice.
Teenor22 1 year ago
As a diabetic on the paleo diet I have been able to get off of my kidney destroying medication. My doctor's mad because I no longer need the med. Plus I lost 45 pounds. i live on the seventh floor in NYC I ran up the stairs carrying BIG watermelon. My 13 year old daughter was behind me yelling wait for me. This diet works and it saved my life.
mikaeel6 1 year ago
@mikaeel6 Its good to see people turn their backs on meds and searching for NATURAL alternatives to medication.
kevinlachlander 1 year ago
all fruits and vegetables are human made.
they are more domesticated than cats, dogs and cows.
bunch of hipsters.
chlooee01 1 year ago
The caveman didn't live longer than the modern man, so why so obsessed with them? Neither the chimps live longer than men!
PersonOfBook 1 year ago
@PersonOfBook Research findings provide ample indications that hunter gatherers were very healthy. They were taller, had better builds and bigger brains. Although their life expectancy was shorter, deaths were often caused by outside factors such as extreme weather conditions, accidents, infections, and predatory animals. They did not suffer from chronic or degenerative diseases such as diabetes, cancer or heart disease. These diseases emerged only when we shifted to agriculture.
paleodiet 1 year ago
@paleodiet vow I'm impressed. Can you tell me what to eat, I want to start this diet!
PersonOfBook 1 year ago
@PersonOfBook Foods as close to nature as possible; fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, meat, eggs, fish etc. If you are looking for recipes you can check out the paleo cookbooks - paleocookbook-com
paleodiet 1 year ago
@paleodiet like organic meats and gojiberries and stuff like that?
CBRADIOLOVER 1 year ago
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@CBRADIOLOVER "like organic meats and gojiberries and stuff like that?"
Stuff like that? Meat causes diabetes and atherosclerosis but goji prevents those.
"Lycium barbarum polysaccharides", which showed antioxidative properties and some interesting pharmacological activities in the context of age related diseases such as atherosclerosis and diabetes" Planta Med. 2010 Jan;76(1):7-19. Epub 2009 Oct 20.
meat is to goji as oxidative stress is to antioxidant.
Chrisisms 1 year ago
@Chrisisms What evidence can you provide to support your claim that meat causes diabetes?
chaseantarctica 1 year ago
Greater dietary heme-iron intake was associated w/ increased risk of Type 2 diabetes" -Diabetologia,47,(2) Feb, 2004
Positive associations were also observed between type 2 diabetes and red meat" -Arch Internal Med. 2004;164:2235.
Also, meat instead of raw plant intake promotes weight gain indirectly, associated w/tDB2.
Raw/whole fruit promotes insulin response but meat impairs insulin response causing pancreas to work harder longterm, like all the other organs when trying to digest meat.
Chrisisms 11 months ago
Chrisisms, your beliefs might be so unconventional that they're considered absurd. However, it may be the case that you're right about your fruit diet. I am not knowledgeable enough to distinguish the difference. But, i'll continue eating massive amounts of fruit because they taste so much better than hostess products.
JoshRom 1 year ago
I did paleo (plus whey protein powder) for a couple of months. Certainly, it's easy to lose weight this way--largely from cutting out so many refined sugars. However, I don't completely understand or agree that it's good simply because it's the original human diet. Can our bodies distinguish the carbs of an apple from a potato's? Do our bodies really prefer the protein of meat rather than milk even though we've evolved lactase to digest the milk of a cow?
JoshRom 1 year ago
'simply because it's the original human diet'
Protohumans and primate ancestors co-evolved w/fruit and humans still digest fruit best as it reverses meat diseases.
'Can our bodies distinguish the carbs of an apple from a potato's?'
Apple has simple sugars/potato has complex carbs.
'we've evolved lactase to digest the milk of a cow?'
Some humans have a duplicate lactase enzyme to digest dairy sugar, it doesn't mean humans evolved to digest bovine casomorphine, cholesterol, high fat, IGF1, etc.
Chrisisms 1 year ago
how the hell do you lose 60-80 pounds??
TheCavemanRunneth 1 year ago
this sounds like a good diet
vanillacoke03 1 year ago
Oh yeah? well I ate a marshmallow the other day and it literally tasted like a marshmallow! MARSHMALLOWS!!
Setzer 2 years ago 2
oh god that chick is so cute. also this diet is a good idea
mattisthegodofwar 2 years ago
....your mom kept clothes from highschool?
LOL!
sorry, this is a good video.
superawkward 2 years ago
Does anyone else hear the fellow saying at 2:38 "and it's also helping to control her diabetus"?
goregasmlegendofdong 2 years ago
Yeah, I heard the claim about 'controlling her diabetis' but when they want to get serious about it they'll shed the meat fixation if they really want to control diabetes.
Greater dietary heme-iron intake and/or supplemental iron were associated w/ increased risk of Type 2 diabetes" -Diabetologia,47,(2) Feb, 2004
vegan diets improve diabetes management J Am Diet Assoc. 2008 Oct;108(10):1636-45.
Meat impedes INS response-Glc isn't absorbed in cells->triggers more INS until system collapse.
Chrisisms 2 years ago
@Chrisisms typical liberal talkin' points, this is 100 times better than ole vegan crap.
CBRADIOLOVER 1 year ago
she's so cute
seskie 2 years ago
It's interesting, because whether we evolved, or even if you DO believe in the 6000 year old earth, either way we still started out on this diet.
I might try it.
vijil 2 years ago
'we still started out on this diet'
Direct primate lineage for tens of millions of yrs co-evolved with fruit production and before that were arboreal herbivores (like most arboreal species). So how did your digestion change to digest meat as fruit and are you claiming to be a different species? Nobody has named ONE genetic mutation that qualifies them as carnivores or natural scavengers.
Humans still digest fruit best with opposing digestive processes to reverse diseases from meat.
Chrisisms 2 years ago
What kind of fruit did man eat during the iceage ? none
xps1981 2 years ago
Millions of yrs before the ice age, human digestive system was already established. Changes of weather and radiating out of ecological niche do not cause digestive system overhauls. There are no such examples in nature, much less among humans. During the ice age fruit still existed (believe it or not) and direct ancestors still ate predominently plants for the most part. To this day the avg human still eats ~81% plants, despite the recent increase in animal consumption.
Chrisisms 2 years ago
@Chrisisms lol yore a fuckin moron.
CBRADIOLOVER 1 year ago
Where did they come from? I don't know much about the subject, but it seems that if all the fruit trees died out in the 1,000's of years of ice, then where do modern native fruits come from?
McConsumer 1 year ago
'we still started out on this diet'
The title of this video is 'The caveman diet'
Direct lineage generally didn't live in caves (except for isolated cases). H. neanderthalensis retreated to the caves more often during that small window of time after the Miocene epoch, in which human digestive system was already established before hunting and was already optimized for fruit.
It's amazing how selective culturists are in assuming grains are natural, yet they consume meat anyway...
Chrisisms 2 years ago
Interesting. I can't bring myself to eat seafood though. I absolutely hate fish.
remmyjable 2 years ago 2
That's natural. All meat consumption requires conditioning, which usually begins in utero.
Chrisisms 2 years ago
yawn. Continue your fun little youtube debate without me. I'll go eat some turkey.
vijil 2 years ago
There was no debate. There is only your socio-il-logical information-intolerance. Turkey has NOTHING to do with natural food for humans. It is merely custom not genetic instruction. So go consume the fowl but don't act like u know anything about natural diet or health.
Chrisisms 2 years ago
Clearly fruit consumption hasn't improved your ability to detect sarcasm.
vijil 2 years ago
@Chrisisms im bigger an badder than u an i do paleodiet not vegan scrawny pale pansyism.
CBRADIOLOVER 1 year ago
@CBRADIOLOVER so your not a pussy because you eat meat? does eating meat make you more of a man? im just having trouble grasping the logic here
1Pantikian 1 year ago
"Pepsin degrades proteins in general. Protein is in all fruit. Pepsin is for digesting fruit specifically. No meat-specific enzymes exist."
Chrisisms
It's a good thing my body produces all of those meat-specific enzymes: I got cowase, fishase chickenase and eggase! Too bad my body sucks at producing chocolatase and icecreamase.
Man, you guys are geeking out pretty hard! :)
blancaflor74 2 years ago
@blancaflor74 "It's a good thing my body produces all of those meat-specific enzymes"
Humans do not produce the uricase enzyme (among others) that all natural meat eaters have to convert dietary purines to UA as an antioxidant instead of a source of a toxin in those humans foolishly consuming meat, despite the rampant degenerative diseases caused by the custom.
"Man, you guys are geeking out pretty hard! :)"
While it is fashionable to consume animal tissue, it is unhealthy. I'll stay a geek.
Chrisisms 11 months ago
@Chrisisms since you want to get geeky, I'll have to ask you why you posted erroneous info. Urate oxidase doesn't catalyze the formation of UA; it breaks UA down to 5-hydroxyisourate. So, you're wrong about humans not having much UA. Higher UA levels in humans is actually an evolutionary advantage, because UA acts as an antioxidant. Furthermore, this lack of ability to break down UA is the reason why humans can develop gout.. Your erroneous info renders your whole conversation null and void.
blancaflor74 11 months ago
@blancaflor74 "since you want to get geeky"
Ad hominem noted.
"Urate oxidase doesn't catalyze the formation of UA; it breaks UA down to 5-hydroxyisourate"
Humans dno't even have the uricase enzyme. You're reading generic info online, trying to win a 'geeky' debate.
"So, you're wrong about humans not having much UA."
I never said that, which is why you choose not to post inline responses. Humans synthesize UA but it is toxic to consume.
Humans are frugivores, digesting fruit best.
Chrisisms 11 months ago
@Chrisisms That was nowhere near ad hominem, however I didn't mean to put words in your mouth regarding the 'humans do not have much UA'. It wasn't my motive behind no inline responses. Since you've already proved yourself wrong with your first response to me, I'm just not that into the debate. I win.
Have fun with your argument and have even more fun getting diarrhea from your all-fruit diet. I'd suggest investing in baby wipes. I wish you luck in convincing yourself that you're right.
blancaflor74 11 months ago
blancaflor: "you want to get geeky"
Ad hominem noted.
blancaflor: "nowhere near ad hominem"
I'm not offended, nonetheless it was an attempt to insult person while ignoring topic= ad hominem.
"I didn't mean to put words in your mouth regarding the 'humans do not have much UA'
Humans synthesize/"have" ALL their UA. The issue is humans don't have UA enzymes to digest UA from meat safely. But u posted irrelevant info about the mechanism of breaking down dietary UA for carnivores, instead.
Chrisisms 11 months ago
@blancaflor74 "wasn't my motive behind no inline responses"
Without a contribution of exchanging human diet info, it would seem your motive has only been to obfuscate.
"wrong"
"The concern with right and wrong is the sickness of the mind." Do u have any useful diet info for humans?
"I'm just not that into the debate"
What debate?
"diarrhea from your all-fruit"
Fruit doesn't cause diarrhea for those experienced in exclusionary diets. Intestinal tone improves.
Chrisisms 11 months ago
All great apes (including humans) digest fruit and direct lineage co-evolved for tens of millions of years with fruit as flowering plants were evolving. All extant hominoidea are frugivores, digesting fruit best.
Chrisisms 2 years ago
0:17 - You only eat fruit that was available in the environment which we actually evolved'
By the Paleolithic era the frugivorous digestive system was already established, well before tool use and fire kindling among direct lineage. Only micro-evolutionary changes have occurred since the Paleolithic era. Supplementing plant based diet with meat did not cause a digestive overhaul. Meat still causes diseases in many ways.
Chrisisms 2 years ago
bullshit, your obviously a vegan or vegitarian trying to spew your propaganda. we evolved from an almost purely carnivorous diet into one of local plants and fruits once the slowing of the ice ages made vegitation more plentiful
raztis1 2 years ago
'By the Paleolithic era the frugivorous digestive system was already established'
raztis- 'bullshit'
Thanks for the scientific rebuttal, u cultural clone. Please provide some hypothesis that tries to explain how your variant changed digestive systems. Hint: The genetic distance between frugivorous ancestors before the recent Paleolithic era is less than 1%. Humans still digest fruit best with opposing digestive processes to meat.
Do you have any useful info to add? I'm talking science.
Chrisisms 2 years ago
oh so the collagen dissolving enzymes within the stomach that is specific for breaking down animal fats is opposing, huh? your just another "hopeful follower" thats gonna believe anything your biased scientists have to say. Neandertal man was almost purely carnivorous, when cro-magnon came into the picture, the intelligence allowed them to gather and compensate for lack of herds. Its strange how 90% of all paleo and biologists agree with me, and u follow a few crazies..
raztis1 2 years ago
'so the collagen dissolving enzyme'
There is no enzyme called 'collagen dissolving enzyme' and as covered, there is NO meat specific enzyme within human beings, which is precisely why you are vague enough to avoid claiming any specific such enzyme, instead just throwing a temper tantrum, again..
'90% of all paleo and biologists agree with me'
??
You haven't made a clear claim even. Your'e just cheer leading for meat. Humans still digest fruit best but resorted to meat when food was low.
Chrisisms 2 years ago
acually, again your wrong.
the stomach contains many enzymes including pepsin specific to breaking down protiens, gelatinase which is specific to hydrolysing gelatin which breaks down proteoglycan only found in meat. the pancreas contains elastases which break down elastin (a protien in connective tissue of animals), even the small intestine contains intestinal lipase that helps with digestion of fatty acids.
to say "there is no enzyme" is simply false. big words dont make smart people
raztis1 2 years ago
'the stomach contains many enzymes including pepsin specific to breaking down proteins'
Correct! And protein is in EVERY fruit. Why would you be surprised frugivorous hominoidea metabolize amino acids? Every animal metabolizes AAs!
'gelatinase'
Gelatinase are responsible for recycling tissue. Even cows have this enzyme. I asked you to list a meat-specific gene.
'elastase'
elastase breaks down proteins in breast milk.
J Dairy Res. 2008 Feb;75(1):76-83.
J Appl Genet. 2007;48(3):189-98.
Chrisisms 2 years ago
yes yes u can find little specifics to try and find reasons to argue the fact, that these enzymes main purpose is breaking down collagen elastase and fat. scientists and doctors agree that this is what these are for. i bet you hunt through the bible to find reasons to not eat meat too, because you warp the facts to prove an illegitimate point. of course elastase breaks down protien in milk, but it also breaks down meat, and both products come from animals, and meat came well before cows milk did
raztis1 2 years ago
'u can find little specifics to try and find reasons to argue the fact, that these enzymes main purpose is breaking down collagen'
I just did explain it. Reread. Again, there are no meat-specific enzymes. In fact, there are some enzymes missing to digest meat... Such as uricase. So humans can't process uric acid and are subject to gout.
In summary, there remains no meat specific enzymes and humans are lacking the enzymes of real meat eaters, so humans still get sick from meat.
Chrisisms 2 years ago
the enzymes i listed are there to break down meat, and the fact is a strictly vegan/fuo diet is dangerous to our health. it doesnt reach the needed requirements of calcium, b-12(only in meat and yeast and yeast wasnt available to early man) , zinc, and protien all of which causes severe health problems if not supplemented. Hense why vegans and frugos have to constantly supplement food items so they can be healthy, and if they didnt have that ability (like before modern technology) they die
raztis1 2 years ago
'the enzymes i listed are there to break down meat'
Begging the question. I refuted your claim that there are any enzymes that are meat specific. I responded by providing information about enzymes humans do NOT have, which are necessary for real meat-eaters to break down meat without disease risk.
Please provide ONE enzyme that is meat specific because the enzymes you listed were in cows too! Thank you for staying on topic.
Consume meat if you want, just don't call it natural or healthy.
Chrisisms 2 years ago
Consume only fruit if you want, just don't call it natural or healthy.
raztis1 2 years ago
I tried your enculturated diet, I was occassionally sick, as many omniconfused socialites are with a mixed diet. But with a fruit based diet I NEVER get sick.
Chrisisms 2 years ago
then it sounds like theres smoething wrong with you and you should seek medical attention. as for the rest of us, if we were to switch to a purely frugo diet with no hardcore supplementing of needed meat bearing vitamins i.e B12, zinc, higher levels of protien...we would get sick or even die.
raztis1 2 years ago
'it sounds like theres smoething wrong with you'
I NEVER get sick and I exercise EVERY day. I have NEVER met anyone healthier at my age. I eat more antioxidants in a day than u do in a week! I even sloughed moles. I no longer have allergy trouble like I did prior to dropping protein intake.
'you should seek medical attention'
My blood pressure dropped 10 points and is slightly lower than avg. I don't even get hicups, much less colds and flues. I no longer have foot odor, etc.
Chrisisms 2 years ago
However arguing over the internet.. still makes you retarded.
coreyfmiller 2 years ago
'arguing over the internet.. still makes you retarded'
And you take the cake by arguging about arguing on the internet... Yet you make NO point!
Chrisisms 2 years ago
@Chrisisms All that may be true, but I'd bet money you have the shits like a runway model.
JoshRom 1 year ago
@JoshRom 'I'd bet money you have the shits like a runway model'
And I'd take your money. Fruit is digested best. I have no stomach aches before, no growling stomach, no hemorrhoids or acidosis, no noisome flatulence, no runs nor arduous bowel movements. I am regular, with 2.8 bowel movements/day.
Your comment exposes your inexperience with a raw fruit based diet, as opposed to a cooked bean or meat diet.
More flatulence, harder/drier stools and stomach aches correlate with less fruit intake.
Chrisisms 1 year ago
the fact is, yes we originally came from herbivorous animals, moved to insectivores and frugovores, and then evolved into the first humans who were omnivore, but since being humans our diet has always consisted of an omnivorous diet, we have never been purely herbivorous since we evolved into humans, binocular vision, intestinal receptors for heme iron, high efa and b12 requirements, humans cannot naturally live as vegan, u ship foods all year round and take vitamins to reach it, not natural.
raztis1 2 years ago
'the fact is, yes we originally came from herbivorous animals'
And then ancestors co-evolved with fruit starting ~40 million yrs ago as frugivores. Since establishing a frugivorous digestive system tens of millions of yrs ago, the recent Paleolithic era didn't cause a digestive system overhaul and humans retain over 99% of the genes of the Miocene ancestors, still frugivores getting sick from meat to this day. Micro-evolution did not cause prevent humans from getting sick from meat.
Chrisisms 2 years ago
well u can believe your scientists and il believe the brunt of the scientific community and we can agree to disagree. but i would like to see you try this so called "natural way" and go out into your woods, and only eat the fruits in the area, no shipping or buying of fruits, no taking vitamins, and il eat only the plants, fruits, and animals in my area and in a year we can see whos healthier.. oh. wait. you would be dead.because over the last 50 million yrs we have evolved into omnivores
raztis1 2 years ago
'u can believe your scientists'
Belief gets in the way of knowledge. I provided scientific evidence from reputable sources. Please support your religion.
'il believe the brunt of the scientific community'
Popular press fallacy. provide ONE scientific source that supports your claim that humans have ONE meat-specific enzyme, anyway!
Chrisisms 2 years ago
humans were almost purely carnivorous by 2.5 million yrs ago Speth (1991 Pg. 265)
(Grine 1981; McHenry 1982; S. Ambrose, pers. comm.). states that human anatomy dramaticall changed from the foliovore diet of similar apes
even the fucking encyclopedia explains that pepsin creates rennin (for milk) and gastric lipase for breaking down protiens IN FAT, your just attempting to push parental milk as the cause for this enzyme but the body produces rennin for that not elastase or gastric lipase
raztis1 2 years ago
'humans were almost purely carnivorous by 2.5 millio nyrs ago'
Humans didn't even exist 2.5 millio nyrs ago...
'human anatomy dramticall changed from the foliovore diet of similar apes even the fucking encyclopedia explains that pepsin creates rennin for milk'
False. Pepsin degrades proteins in general. Protein is in all fruit. Pepsin is for digesting fruit specifically. No meat-specific enzymes exist.
Chrisisms 2 years ago
'human anatomy dramaticall changed from the folivore diet of similar apes even the..'
Please name just ONE mutagenic change in 'human anatomy' that caused your lineage to be carnivores. HINT: THERE ARE NONE. Humans remain frugivores, digesting fruit best. If you want to start a new religion, fine. Just don't call it healthy or natural. Fruit will ALWAYS reverse meat diseases, regardless of how much you want social acceptance for consuming mutated cows!
Chrisisms 2 years ago
your ideology is obviously strewn with propaganda from biased fanatial animal rights groups. a person cannot live off of local fruit alone without serious compensation, a human works best when eating a omnivorous diet that includes meats. its just fact, you can spew your biased scientific research all u want, i can find scientist that sais smoking wasnt bad too. get over yourself..
raztis1 2 years ago
'animal rights'
Please take your parataxic distortions to an antipeta site. The topic is diet related.
'a person cannot live off of local fruit'
Then obtain non'local' fruit. u aren't in H. sapien's ecological niche anyway.
'a human works best when eating a omnivorous diet'
Please support the myth. Most humans on omnivorous diets are chronically constipated, congested, on medication, anxious, overweight, etc.
I've tried your omniconfused diet. u have no reference...
Chrisisms 2 years ago
@Chrisisms you provide liberal bullshit as usual BOY. YEAH I CALLED YOU BOY. WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT BOY?
CBRADIOLOVER 1 year ago
'our diet has always consisted of an omnivorous diet'
Not always and it has been distorted by cultural practices. Humans digest raw fruit best, still. You may introduce as much pig tissue into your diet as you wish. This won't alter the frugivorous digestive system already established. The genetic distance between humans and relatively recent, tree-dwelling ancestors in Africa is less than 1%. And no meat supplements since then has caused a digestive overhaul. Fruit still cures meat diseases.
Chrisisms 2 years ago
my best friends mother told me about this diet a couple days ago and im on it now
spearmint1991 2 years ago
This is the PERFECT diet for us humans. It is encrypted in our genes.
hector0282 2 years ago
He says you don't need to be an archeologist, biologist or nutritionist to understand the diet...
I agree 100%
BUT I'd like to talk to a paleobotanist to find out what potential plant species would have been most commonly eaten by our ancestors.
mathiastheok 2 years ago
'I'd like to talk to a paleobotanist to find out what potential plant species would have been mostly commonly eaten by our ancestors'
It depends how far back you go. It is not so important that a specific plant is sought after. The main thing is rich soil and varied, organic plants including RIPE fruit.
Chrisisms 2 years ago
i got EPIC results in regards to fat loss, etc. however, i've noticed that i'm VERY insulin insensitive now (...or is it sensitive? ... whatever the 1 is where you gain a fckload of fat VERY easily from dairy & carbs minus fruit/veggies.) so, i've fcked myself over (had some dairy & carbs 1day & noticed what happened) & will NEVER be able to do this eating plan again. =( i REALLY want to continue doing it, as i feel GREAT whilst on it! =) but i don't wanna fck my body over again. =S
trancedreamer 3 years ago
That sort of thing can happen when your body gets used to a certain way of eating and then you drastically change. It is my assumption that you didn't just have "a little" carbs one day, but you probably overindulged, maybe all weekend long (or longer). I'm also willing to bet that your were sort of "peer pressured" into breaking your discipline by unwitting friends or family that didn't mean you any harm. I know very well what it's like, we're in the same shoes.
TheCavemanRunneth 2 years ago
This has become a lifetime commitment for me and I struggle with it all the time. The struggle does get easier the longer you stick with it though. Think about those epic results and decide if it's worth making a permanent change to keep them. What's really fcking your body over are the dairy and the carbs to begin with.
TheCavemanRunneth 2 years ago
Amen.
I say I eat to live, I don't live to eat.
Funny when I go out to a restaurant and order my food this way and I say
"I'm on a diet" and the server always says
"You don't look like you need to be on a