Typical Cat III autoland. Looks like RVR 300,300,300 with a smegs taxi procedure. Cat III you don't need to see anything to land. Cat II you have to see something like center line lights if not its a go around with at least an RVR of 1200,1200 with touch down and mid field controlling. Land 3,Land 2, is an autoland status based on MEL, items which down grade the aircraft auto land system. (RVR) runway visual range.
CATIIIB is subdivided into an approach WITH &WITHOUT a decision height (DH). With a DH, the limit in quesiton is 50ft with an RVR not less than 75m. A pilot may NOT continue the approach below the DH unless visual refrence with one centreline light is attained and can be maintained.
No DH ops require NO visual refrence to the runway prior to landing but an RVR of 75m is still required for taxiing.
during a CAT III landing, there is no minimums. you have to be specialy trained to be able to do this type of landing. the autoland system takes the plane all the way to the ground and once it lands you have to disarm the autoland system and it is not a simple process of just turning it off because of the redundency of the system. the outer middle and inner markers tell you how far out and how high you should be and if your altitude is off or airspeed at a fixed point you go missed
CAT 3 is "Special Aircrew"....that means special conditions and Pilots trained to get the bird down to nearly "Nothing" ( believe it's something like 100 ft. or less...possibly even right to the pavement, as in this case. of course, even in the worst conditions, you WILL see 'something' ( lights; rwy stripes, etc..) just before touchdown. anyway, all this squabbling above about, "isn't his Illegal?". Nope. not if it's CAT3 Approved and special aircrew rated. this was a good landing
Land 3 is not dependent purely on having three autopilots operational. It's aircraft specific. In a 757, for example, you also need three independent electrical supplies. If you only have two independent electrical supplies (such as if you have an APU failure), you would only have Land 2, despite having three autopilots operational.
From podajdalej11: Severely foggy landing is prerequisite to an accident. The air controller had to tell the crew that the landing gear is not seen through binoculars and landing will result in disaster.
1)An unusual riddle for the international family of chess players. In memory of the tragic accident at Smolensk, Mr Jan Tarwid, a Reserve of the Polish Airforce Corporal and graduate of T.S.W.L, created this chess riddle.
2) It's named "In Memory of the 2010 Crash Landing".
Quote Category III C – A precision instrument approach and landing with no decision height and no runway visual range limitations. This category is not yet in operation anywhere in the world, as it requires guidance to taxi in zero visibility as well. "Category III C" is not mentioned in EU-OPS. Category III B is currently the best available system
Holy crap , in my country we have the same low visibility but sandstorm so all you see is brown . and unfortunately all the planes that have to land return from the place they came , ILS is forbidden cause when it's sandy they runway get dusted and planes can slip out of runway easily . :)
@harge1706 Minimums ...Yes I know .....but no one ever called 'minimums' and said they 'saw' anything -to continue..So- it 'looked' like it was a fully coupled Cat3 approach all the way down.!!!→.they busted threw Mins....and were on the ground before you knew it. Kinda weird. no? or is that the way they do it in Europe ? -A comment by mikeydapilot ~explains it pretty good.
@BigBearVids The CAT3 B appch requires a runway vis range not less than 75 meters. This wasn't 75 or at least it did not look like it due to the camera angle. The 0minimums and 0 RVR cat is CAT3C , which isn't operational anywhere in the world yet. but in US the CAT3B RVR is permissible up to 150 feet ,ie around 50 meters. If that was 50, they are legal n deserve a beer ! :P
@mztthew found out that --Both pairs of eyes are watching the The Autoland system which has to be monitored right down to taxi speed.....any failure at any time would require a go around before landing....
@mztthew Not against regulations when flying IFR instrument flight rules, the rule is when flying VFR visual, you must declare the runway before the mimimum safe altitude, and ill say that aircraft was landing on ILS which is IFR, theres no way the pilots would land the aircraft on visual and not see the runway till the last minute and the whole idea of a Category 3 autoland is> u cant see the runway .)
... also, KLGA's runway 4 doesn't have TDZL (Touch Down Zone Lights) which are the group of lights you see on either side of the centerline lights... visible from 0:30 - 0:39 .
He's not confirming to land on runway 3. In a CATIII ILS approach, the autopilots land the aircaft. The system that does this is called "autoland." There are two components, "Land 2" and "Land 3" and the component used depends on how many autopilots are active. Ideally, all 3 will be operational and "Land 3" will be used. If one autopilot fails, then the system will use "Land 2" as a backup. In conclusion, the pilot is confirming that "Land 3" is still operational, not confirming runway 3.
wow what a foogy day, dude i would also be kissing the auto pilot, but that is why aviation has the most advanced intruments, plud the amount of training they put when it come to this type of situation, hopefully ill be thier soon, im gna become a airline pilot hopefully, great vid 5/5
Actually there are four components or status to the auto land system on Boeing aircraft. Land 3, Land 2, no Cat III, Approach only.
767Seatwarmer 2 days ago
Typical Cat III autoland. Looks like RVR 300,300,300 with a smegs taxi procedure. Cat III you don't need to see anything to land. Cat II you have to see something like center line lights if not its a go around with at least an RVR of 1200,1200 with touch down and mid field controlling. Land 3,Land 2, is an autoland status based on MEL, items which down grade the aircraft auto land system. (RVR) runway visual range.
767Seatwarmer 2 days ago
what happened to the 10 and 20 feet callouts?
ie210 2 months ago
which is the decision height in this type of approaching? is written on the approach chart?
cristomahawk 2 months ago
FINALLY.....someone posted a REAL cat III landing vid......there are about 10,000 vid of idiots who know exactly shit about nothing posting videos.
this is a CAT III autoland landing.....im an expert and Ill endorse this video
beergut111 2 months ago
i need a system like that for my car
luckykevinification 3 months ago
CATIIIB is subdivided into an approach WITH &WITHOUT a decision height (DH). With a DH, the limit in quesiton is 50ft with an RVR not less than 75m. A pilot may NOT continue the approach below the DH unless visual refrence with one centreline light is attained and can be maintained.
No DH ops require NO visual refrence to the runway prior to landing but an RVR of 75m is still required for taxiing.
Neutrinoghost 3 months ago
during a CAT III landing, there is no minimums. you have to be specialy trained to be able to do this type of landing. the autoland system takes the plane all the way to the ground and once it lands you have to disarm the autoland system and it is not a simple process of just turning it off because of the redundency of the system. the outer middle and inner markers tell you how far out and how high you should be and if your altitude is off or airspeed at a fixed point you go missed
toospeed31 3 months ago
Holy crap!!! Even FSX on 1/16 mile visibility isn't as bad as that!
FlightSimmer948 4 months ago
NOOO que tremendo Señor!!!!!! es lo mas increible que he visto, grandes los pilotos!!!!
barce1886 4 months ago
The human eye can see things the camera cannot.
DaveNF2G 4 months ago
Won't be trying that in my Cherokee.
hangargems 4 months ago
Jesus christ this is just insanity
DiamondPilotDan 4 months ago
Indefinite Ceiling Zero Visibility Zero Due To Fog
kupilot3 4 months ago
@kupilot3 Close.WOXOF? you missed the 'X' →Sky ObsXcured..\\\ he notes it above..Great Vid.!!
Google is NOT 25+yrs old...like us....LOL
jimmywacked 4 months ago
this is no dh.. all you need is taxi vis
floaterincloud 5 months ago
CAT 3 is "Special Aircrew"....that means special conditions and Pilots trained to get the bird down to nearly "Nothing" ( believe it's something like 100 ft. or less...possibly even right to the pavement, as in this case. of course, even in the worst conditions, you WILL see 'something' ( lights; rwy stripes, etc..) just before touchdown. anyway, all this squabbling above about, "isn't his Illegal?". Nope. not if it's CAT3 Approved and special aircrew rated. this was a good landing
drumdude46 6 months ago
Ground radar and/or low vis taxi routes (center line is outlined in black) help with the taxi.
mdo686 7 months ago
Land 3 is not dependent purely on having three autopilots operational. It's aircraft specific. In a 757, for example, you also need three independent electrical supplies. If you only have two independent electrical supplies (such as if you have an APU failure), you would only have Land 2, despite having three autopilots operational.
zizi87 7 months ago
how you do that omg :O
alecdepalect 7 months ago
From podajdalej11: Severely foggy landing is prerequisite to an accident. The air controller had to tell the crew that the landing gear is not seen through binoculars and landing will result in disaster.
podajdalej11 7 months ago
fuck that ha!!
davidstanton2007 7 months ago
(A)
1)An unusual riddle for the international family of chess players. In memory of the tragic accident at Smolensk, Mr Jan Tarwid, a Reserve of the Polish Airforce Corporal and graduate of T.S.W.L, created this chess riddle.
2) It's named "In Memory of the 2010 Crash Landing".
Black:
p-e4; p-e5; p-e6; N-f3; p-f4; p-f5; p-f6; N-f7;
R-g3; p-g4; B-g5; p-g6; R-g7; K-h4; B-h5; Q-h6.
White:
K-a1; p-a4; p-a6; R-a8; B-b1; p-b4; p-b6; R-b8;
B-c3; p-c4; p-c6; N-c8; p-d4; p-d6; N-d8; Q-e1.
podajdalej11 9 months ago
(B)
3)Line "E" plus pawns at p-e4: p-e5: p-e6: to illuminate the start of the landing strip.
4)The spot marking the landing of the plane is field C-5.
5)The plane is securely avoiding the tall tree: K-h4; Q-h6
6)QUESTION: Where should the starting lights be placed in order that the plane would scrape the tall tree: K-h4; Q-h6:
7)Please send answer to: tarwidemb@aol.com
8)All rights reserved.
podajdalej11 9 months ago
ILS CAT III C
ducker1942 10 months ago
39 seconds of GREY! Good landing sir!
FLIGHTCOMPANY 10 months ago
Nice jobb, i gus some times you have to land if you dont have fuel.. but this was nasty shit! Crazy landing
SuperOlav01 11 months ago
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@SuperOlav01, From podajdalej11, Re. SuperOlav01;
" Nice jobb, i gus some times you have to land if you dont have fuel but this was nasty shit! Crazy landing ", and prerequisite to an accident.
The air controller had to tell the crew that the landing gear is not seen through binoculars and landing will result in disaster.
podajdalej11 9 months ago
Fuck that shit. I would never want to do a Cat III landing.
zadeh79 1 year ago
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HPG747 1 year ago
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HPG747 1 year ago
@HPG747 WTF ! are you talking about.!!! ??
jimmywacked 1 year ago
Quote Category III C – A precision instrument approach and landing with no decision height and no runway visual range limitations. This category is not yet in operation anywhere in the world, as it requires guidance to taxi in zero visibility as well. "Category III C" is not mentioned in EU-OPS. Category III B is currently the best available system
basimpsn 1 year ago
holy shit
TreetopFlyer84 1 year ago
well, this landing seems to me like a CATIII C,
for those who doesnt know, there are 3 categories more under CATIII ILS ( a b and c). u can google it.
that way i can explain how the hell they taxi out of the rwy, otherwise they were breaking like 19283138 rules and comprising the safety of the flight
good video though
sirlaps 1 year ago
Are you sure you were on the runway :D?
jeanorwin 1 year ago
Holy crap , in my country we have the same low visibility but sandstorm so all you see is brown . and unfortunately all the planes that have to land return from the place they came , ILS is forbidden cause when it's sandy they runway get dusted and planes can slip out of runway easily . :)
KRDSH931 1 year ago
was this an airline flight? if it was i do believe its against the rules to land the airplane without visibilty of the runway before touch down
mztthew 1 year ago
@mztthew you may be right... You need to see lights or SOMETHING to continue....
I was not videoing this one \\ a co worker was... so It could have been a Lear or a private..// ??? .STILL...Scarey..good call..!!!
BigBearVids 1 year ago
@BigBearVids CAT 3 is all the way down to minimums.
harge1706 1 year ago
@harge1706 Minimums ...Yes I know .....but no one ever called 'minimums' and said they 'saw' anything -to continue..So- it 'looked' like it was a fully coupled Cat3 approach all the way down.!!!→.they busted threw Mins....and were on the ground before you knew it. Kinda weird. no? or is that the way they do it in Europe ? -A comment by mikeydapilot ~explains it pretty good.
BigBearVids 1 year ago
@BigBearVids The CAT3 B appch requires a runway vis range not less than 75 meters. This wasn't 75 or at least it did not look like it due to the camera angle. The 0minimums and 0 RVR cat is CAT3C , which isn't operational anywhere in the world yet. but in US the CAT3B RVR is permissible up to 150 feet ,ie around 50 meters. If that was 50, they are legal n deserve a beer ! :P
yahul25 1 year ago
@BigBearVids it's CAT IIIc (or autoland). Not all the ILS are the same, both plane and pilots have to be ready for IIIc.
nordic 10 months ago
What was the minimum, like 5 feet? That was nuts.
markitron 1 year ago
@BigBearVids CAT IIIC - you only have to see your cockpit. 0 cealing, 0 visibility
tiggapl 1 year ago
@mztthew found out that --Both pairs of eyes are watching the The Autoland system which has to be monitored right down to taxi speed.....any failure at any time would require a go around before landing....
BigBearVids 1 year ago
@mztthew CAT III C Doesnot have a minimum or Visibility...All Zero
nuwanthevampire 1 year ago
@mztthew In Cat 3 you do not need to see something to continue.
vivele77 1 year ago
@mztthew Not against regulations when flying IFR instrument flight rules, the rule is when flying VFR visual, you must declare the runway before the mimimum safe altitude, and ill say that aircraft was landing on ILS which is IFR, theres no way the pilots would land the aircraft on visual and not see the runway till the last minute and the whole idea of a Category 3 autoland is> u cant see the runway .)
cubes887 1 year ago
@mztthew CAT III minimums are 0/0 lol
noof25 3 months ago
@mztthew Since it's cat III 0-0 it is supposed to have no minimums isn't ?
0-0 are performed since the 70th but are very rare
zangdaarr 2 months ago
that was a scary landing... nicely done!!
yole456789 1 year ago
It must be emirates or thai. the only ones serving LSZH. Except for swiss ofcourse.
What airline is it?
dnhug 1 year ago
wow!
Ganjamule 1 year ago
Wow ! nice
freitasti 1 year ago
"W0X0F" means "INDEFINITE CEILING Zero VISIBLITY Zero DUE TO FOG"
ashokrajarp1982 1 year ago
@ashokrajarp1982 You forgot the X → (Sky Obscured) good try- google doesn''t know Everything..!
BigBearVids 1 year ago
How the fuck do you taxi?lol
ken92660 2 years ago 19
@ken92660 good question! Its usually by following a follow-me truck once you have vacated the runway
AndrewJM70 1 year ago
@ken92660 probably a follow me car if u can c it LOL
Vorox144 8 months ago
@ken92660 first thing that came to my mind..scroll down to post it and here it is you already posted it!!!!
dvypatel 2 months ago
That was scary, the pilots got guts!
gragrn 2 years ago 2
Nice vid...
Javier140290 2 years ago
KLGA is not equipped for... nor are there any published US TERPS for a CAT III approach at this airport.
Additionally, the pilot is verbally announcing a confirmation to land on runway 3.
LaGuardia's runways are 4-22 and 13-31.
skyyguyy 2 years ago
... also, KLGA's runway 4 doesn't have TDZL (Touch Down Zone Lights) which are the group of lights you see on either side of the centerline lights... visible from 0:30 - 0:39 .
skyyguyy 2 years ago
Actually you ARE right. I must have gotten my 4 letter ICAO code wrong. I think its actually somewhere in 'L'....not 'K'..
Liiving down the road from LGA you must have landed there more times than me.!! I'll research and change it.! thxs.!
BigBearVids 2 years ago
Cool. You're welcome. Great video, otherwise.
skyyguyy 2 years ago
He's not confirming to land on runway 3. In a CATIII ILS approach, the autopilots land the aircaft. The system that does this is called "autoland." There are two components, "Land 2" and "Land 3" and the component used depends on how many autopilots are active. Ideally, all 3 will be operational and "Land 3" will be used. If one autopilot fails, then the system will use "Land 2" as a backup. In conclusion, the pilot is confirming that "Land 3" is still operational, not confirming runway 3.
mikeydapilot 2 years ago 11
KLGA has CATIIIa?? I don't believe it.
jmr604 2 years ago
7-5 IAC CAT 3 Minima RWY 04R 22L
check the LIDO -
FullMetalJackSquat 2 years ago
wow- cat 3 baby-
AllFoamNoBeer 2 years ago
Holy feekin shat..! how'd he do that .. ???
FullMetalJackSquat 2 years ago
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bajesus666 2 years ago
So what was it A320 or MD 80..What type of plane? Awesome!
atenco01 2 years ago
Looked smaller than a 320. maybe md-80 -90 or CRJ.. ?
AllFoamNoBeer 2 years ago
Cat III FTW!!! Still would pucker the hole tho
ke3wh 2 years ago
woah` again--
str0en0gth 2 years ago
Visibility ZERO WOW!
etops207 2 years ago
Great video! Best auto-land I've seen on here yet! Thanks.
GriffieRex 2 years ago
WTF?? wow---
str0en0gth 2 years ago
wow what a foogy day, dude i would also be kissing the auto pilot, but that is why aviation has the most advanced intruments, plud the amount of training they put when it come to this type of situation, hopefully ill be thier soon, im gna become a airline pilot hopefully, great vid 5/5
captainkhaled01 2 years ago
Not with that level of grammar you wont.
1053857 2 years ago
dude its called abbrevations dah!!!!
captainkhaled01 2 years ago
grammar or spelling you moron??
makinalitarraka 2 years ago