Good job Russia! Now if they'd do something about those huge groups of Muslims occupying public streets for their prayers, we'd really be getting somewhere.
they call themselves a church, that's blasphemy!, the church is the bride of the Son of God (if u dont have knowledge what that means, study), a church is made for the sole purpose of giving honor to God, now tell me what does this scientology crap stands for ? pls dont tell me science, since science is just another tool called by us, but discovered to people by nonetheless, God.
@valentyn0 the moron is you, idiot you did not understand that I HATE SCIENTOLOGY and I am very proud that a great country like Russia is doing something about it, I really hope they kill them all, and if I could help, I would do it with the biggest pleasure.
Why ban a science fiction book? You're only giving it credit.
This is censorship, and it's wrong. People tend to forget that censorship may also be not in their favour. For instance, scientology has apparently managed to take down lots of videos on youtube criticizing them.
@TakesTwoToTango Yeah, I did. It's because these things that I mentioned earlier( of course there are more things like that) it's not considered as a religion.
While I disagree with the banning of any literature, I can understany Russia has done this. Hubbard was a racist, maniacal, megalomaniac and a fraud. He clearly outlines in his books that scietnology should spread across the world and that anyone who won't join people below 2.0 on the tonescale who refuse to sign up, should be "disposed of quietly and without sorrow". Examples of people below 2.0 on Hubbards tone-scale, homosexuals, who he brands as being mentally ill.
@Dhomess you want free speech... you have youtube, you want to live with other people... you have laws. Just becasue i belive in sicnence doesnt make it a religion!, you cant modify a word just because you feel abused by the fact that some people are religious. Science is a study, its evolutionary and progressive, RELIGION is why you are who you are beyond yourself.
Very good just sad that the CULT still brain wach the american nation. Sad how they are cotroled by there government. Even that 99% of people hate scientology in the US the government dont care about the abuse of its people. SAD......
At whyweprotest we are more concerned with the coporate side that hides behind the mask of religion that commits all the violations and rights abuses, murders ect
Good decision Russia - stamp on the insanity of hubbard and his cult of cash. 10,000,000 followers world wide my arse. The real figures are in the tens of thousands in reality.
@unfukkkmee If you want to say something please do it in a normal way instead of swearing. It's really immature and writing in caps doesn't make your agrument true. I wasn't even talking about zionism in the first place.
@unfukkkmee Again i wasn't talking about zionism. If you want to preach to people go do so to someone else who actually wants to talk to you. Stop saying random things and writing in all caps it's really immature. I am not ordering you to do anything. You are responding to my comment. If you don't want to listen to me just ignore the comment and move on with your life. Just keep your opinion to yourself next time.
@dancar567 are you an idiot by any chance? WHy should any religion get respect? respect is earned and when a religion comes along that is as see through as a $10 hookers blouse people have every right to speak out and take action. This is a business cult NOT a religion. Even the accepted religions of the world like christianity and Islam deserve no respect - look how many people have died in the name of either during the crusades, the inquisition and then tell me again why we should respect it.
every religion is both a sect and cult... cant really see why Scientology is that horrible... million of people is getting killed every year because of christianity and islam. They have some outragious comments and practise but its limitid how many peoples life they are caused to end.
@rytmen Im a Christan-- and I belive Noah was 900 years old-- all species of animal fit on a ship with enough food to outlast a 40 day night storm, I belive a crippled old guy climed up a mountain to see god and essentialy carry back down 2, 80 pound bags of concrete while using a cane (couldnt god just have sat the damn things on the ground (why so shy). Hey at least i can get away with anything cos Jesus died for my sins-- great insurance policy dont you think
@rytmen read about the policy of disconnection, the many many deaths caused by scientology, the gouging of scientologists by the cult for cash for courses, the human rights abuses by the cult of its members.
Well thats an outright lie. Just check out the amount of countries that have banned the cult over the years. Check out their "Fair Game" policy or "Operation Snow White". Not friendly to government, critics, or civilians. My god theyre not even friendly to family members that have been trapped by the cult or the ex-members. The only people they like are those on the payroll and their current members!
Some Scientology members in San Francisco, California showed up at my house to find my friend who skipped his second day of "auditing." They were not given my address and I had a feeling we would be followed by them. There are Scientologists who are the law enforcement and see themselves as beyond the law. Good for Russia!
L. Ron Hubbard was a Sci-Fi fiction writer...He made the remark that religion was where the real money was to a friend before he 'invented' Scientology. He was very smart, a very smart fiction writer that found a way to make more money than he was writing what used to be called "Pulp Fiction" short stories for the 5 cent 'Rag's' (a small soft-back thin book made with cheap paper..therefore "Pulp" as in cheap paper) Not a good background for the leader of his own church and religion.
It's recognized as such because it falls under such a definition. But it is not (and never was) a religion on a traditional sense. It is an APPLIED RELIGIOUS PHYLOSOPHY. (doubt you can tell the difference)
Once again - there goes your "expertise"
I don't have to prove anything. YOU are the accuser, remember?
And Scn never claim the e-meter does anything by itself. That's just another lie.
I'm watching a documentary and don't pay much attention to brain washed sheeple,like u, that's all
@Gmmaverick --"don't pay much attention to brain washed sheeple,like u, that's all" a big lol at that one . I am afraid most religious folk are brainwashed, its part of the program. Especially so in $cientology where you are not allowed to say anything against hubbard or miscavige. go on I dare you - disagree with him. Care to deny the story of Xenu/Xemu because I can point you right to a lecture by hubbard himself on that one. Who is the real brainwashed person here?
If I have any disagreement or not is none of your business.
The fact that you believe that to be the case, doesn't mean that's "fact" Like your assumption, of "where I am" not knowing anything about me. Unless you have evidence about me to prove it...
The story of "Xenu" is apparently part of ot III, so you'll have to ask someone on that stage,
@Gmmaverick . I dont need to ask about Xenu from someone on OT3, for one thing they would not say a word about it in any case and secondly because I have already heard the story from the lips of ron hubbard. Given the evident attitude of scientology and some of the TR routines I have observed here on Youtube, it is CLEAR that people are brainwashed into their way of thinking. ALL religion is about CONTROL. Not just scientology and brainwashing can be subtle or obvious (scientology is obvious).
Well I should have thought over that last statement a bit more...not all cults are necessarily opposed to freedom of speech. This one, however, is. Its founder insisted his followers stop at nothing to silence critics, so my point stands about what the existence of Scientology can mean for freedom of speech.
As bullshit as Scientology is, id much rather live in a country of free speech and live with those whom i disagree, rather than country of censorship with those i dont.
Government censorship of any opinion, no matter how extreme, is 100% wrong.
@treysparker You live in a country like this and its called America, a country where the society is FUCKED UP. NO THANKS. You can have freedom without retarded things like that.
@treysparker I agree with you, but I feel the need to point out something. This is an organization with a paramilitary branch and a "fair game" policy of criminally (even violently) harassing critics into silence. So, it is because that right is paramount that such activities should result in the most severe penalties. Cults are inherently hostile to freedom of speech, and as such their very existence is a threat to that right.
This is an easy one: scientology is bullshit crap, just like the bible and koran.
And, yes - they are a cult, just like christianity and islam.
But, it is still WRONG to censor free speech. "Extremism" is no excuse. Pure subjective opinion about what is "extremist". If they want to ban scientology because scientologists are ultra-litigious, then Russia should do that.
A long time ago, a failed science fiction writer named L. Ron Hubbard once said the best way to make money in America is to start a religion. Shortly thereafter, Dianetics was released and the cult of Scientology, which is based on fraud and fleecing the flock, was born.
@ChipArgyle Do you call that "evidence" to *prove* he actually said that?
That's people spreading a rumor. It's even stated there.
Do you know the phrase -allegedly attributed to Joseph Goebbels- : "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
Or perhaps you are aware of it and pursuing that end?
Because if not, I think it would be good for you to check out the meaning of "useful idiot"
@Gmmaverick Yes, I do. There are enough first person claims that he said that, in some way or another, on numerous occasions, to different people, that I believe it to be true. The construct of Scientology fully supports it. Anyone who's done any digging into Scientology knows that it wrests every spare nickel from its followers using numerous techniques including fraud and lies (called auditing) and in some cases, outright brute force. It's not a religion. It should be a crime.
@ChipArgyle At least you have the decency to admit that all you do is repeat what others have said, -helping in this way- by adding your voice to spread a rumor but have no actual evidence to support the claim, hoping it becomes "true" just like Joseph Goebbels allegedly said
And I'm pretty sure you can very easily bring them down presenting all those accusations before a court of law
I'm pretty sure it'll soon be on the news. So I'll be watching you succeed (gonna get some pop corn =)
@Gmmaverick Your Scientology-addled brain fails to see the obvious difference between your Goebbels stance and the article I steered you to. Goebbels was one man who kept saying the same thing repeatedly. The article discussed NUMEROUS people stating they had spoken with Hubbard DIRECTLY and that was his position time and again. In a court of law such people would be called WITNESSES.
Now, be a good lad and refute my position on the fraud that is auditing. That ought to be good for a laugh.
@ChipArgyle Right. It OBVIOUS it's very "different" one person repeating a lie, to a bunch of people repeating the same lie and thus convincing "smart" people like you to help them out.
U are not only a useful idiot. You are happy to be1
Auditing? People goes there, get auditing, and pay for it. What is the problem with that?
BTW, you "expertise" is exposed when you say. "It is not a religion" if you'd know anything about it, you'd know, it isn't. Not the type people understand by "religion"
@Gmmaverick 1. You need to learn much more about Hubbard to defend him. 2. Since 1993, the IRS has recognized Scientology as a religion. Its acceptance as a religion varies by country. Why is it called the Church of Scientology if it's not a religion? 3. Until you tell us exactly what auditing is, what machinery is used, the scientific foundation of said machinery, and show us INDEPENDENT PROOF that it does ANYTHING AT ALL, I'm done. Are you drinking? Your English has fallen to shit.
@HyperBorealOperator Precisely, once you ban the books it give the adherents of the cult or religion victim status. It reminds me of what Theodor Herzl said, "The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”.
How about a religion that practices ritualistic cannibalism? Eating the flesh and drinking the blood of a guy that has been dead for over 2,000 years? Isn't that extremist?
I just gonna wait till they come for the ones whom are cheering at this (and similar things) just to see their faces ha ha..
Then I'm gonna leave. I'm prepared.
Because they are gonna do it. Just watch...
They are gonna come down on the entire population worldwide. The events taking place at the international arena at the moment is just the tip of the iceberg. It's just down hill from here on out.
@HyperBorealOperator Reading your comment, comes to mind: When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a communist. When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I was not a social democrat. When they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I remained silent; I wasn't a Jew. When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out. Let's enjoy the rest of the movie... =)
@Gmmaverick The thing is that Scientology looks more like the Nazi's than those they came for. Russians/Soviets understand all to well what evil cults look like and what they can do if they take power. LRH stated all men would be his slaves. Scientology does teach the doctrine that they will take over the world and have policies on how to do it. Good to Russia for banning that evil shit.
Good shit Cult of $cientology is an extremist ideology, while I don't disagree with some of their views on psychiatric medicine I think they are dangerous and should be banned. They scam people out of all their money, and brainwash them. They are just as dangerous as the Ayn Rand cult
What Tom Cruise and John Travolta will have to say? WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT Tom Cruise and John Travolta have to say! They're a couple of credulous prats.
Sadly, some cults enslave and/or exploit their members. Scientology has been accused of being a cult that uses "brainwashing" to isolate the individual from their friends and family. This charge has also been leveled at non-Hindu groups in India and also against Islam and other groups in many countries.
(Disclosure: I don't happen to believe that L.Ron Hubbard, Claude Vorilhon ("Raël").Joseph Smith or Mohammad were "prophets of the Living God" or had anything to offer mankind, but lies)
Russia ain't some kind of globalist melting pot like the rest of the world. They're not afraid to be 'politically incorrect'. They're protecting their heritage & way of life from outsiders who want to take control and poison it. The Western world is so corrupt, we're taking too many steps back! Society's a bloody mess and there's no way out. I say GOOD for the Russians, they're good people with common sense! : )
@BootboyJohnny You know, lots of russia is a cold-war abandoned wasteland right? And that lots of their "Heritage" is lot amidst neo nazis and people who dont understand that Stalin was an idiot?
Yeah, they're trying to protect it now, but it's done been shattered apart for many years D:
Common sense yeah. Good people? Ehhhhh no more than the average person in the US.
@BootboyJohnny You have confused the Russian government with "the Russians", and you have likewise con founded suppression of unpopular views with "protecting their heritage". If your supposed heritage is so weak that it can't stand a challenge from a lot of brain dead Scientology nut cases, it doesn't deserve to survive anyway.
The best way to oppose Scientology's crackpot nonsense is by offering an alternative, not by suppressing human rights.
@BootboyJohnny You REALLY have never traveled to Russia have you? It's one of the most corrupt Nations I've ever seen....You can't even do business over there without bribing everyone and their brother. Try Googling ORGANIZED CRIME AND CORRUPTION IN RUSSIA:
@BootboyJohnny Scientology may be a joke, but banning it is impeding on the freedom of speech of Russia and is paving the way for a slippery slope where anything that the Russian government would deem as anti government could be banned.
Besides the fact that they make many unprovable claims, and practice medicine without a license, they also bilk their followers for every penny they own, and every penny they could ever borrow. On top of that they are paranoid zealots that talk and harass their members when they try to escape, and they try to destroy the lives of anyone that speaks out against them.
i haven't seen any concrete evidence that should suggest anything extremist or anti-social. It's a point not an arguement. All organizations demand payment and symbolic sacrifices, so that wouldn't count as anti-social. Whether or not I like corporations is irrelevant.
@CJBombaYe Well you must not be looking very hard. Did you hear how Scientology harassed Paulette Cooper and tried to frame her for terrorism (Operation Freakout)? Or how about how Scientology was convicted for burglary, and espionage against the US, and Canadian governments? Or the death of Lisa McPherson? Or how they stalk, and harass their ex-members and critics? Or their recent fraud conviction in France? Or their Disconnection (family separation), Fair Game, Dead Agent doctrines etc?
You wrote: "Well you must not be looking very hard..."(I missed that post)
You're right I haven't been looking very hard, because everyone with whom I've had this discussion, unconvincingly based their arguements on rumours.
Never heard of Paulette Cooper or the espionage. I had no idea that Lisa's parents were scientologists; strange that they haven't mentioned it in the media.
I personally know Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Christians and Muslims who are extremely fraudulent.
Divorce, and Scientology's disconnection doctrine are extremely different. Divorced couples often still talk to each other. When Scientologist "disconnect" from family members they sever all ties.
@CJBombaYe You're downplaying it quite a bit there. Do you consider signing a billion year contract, working 100 hour weeks, and only earning $50 a week a "symbolic sacrifices?" Or paying upwards of $300K to reach a phony state called OT III, and learn about an evil galactic overlord named Xenu? I suppose you don't think that separating families, or harassing your ex-followers, and critics is anti-social either, just normal behavior?
Drugs and alcohol separate and damage more families than scientology ever could, but both are legal(western-made films definately legitimize drug abuse). I see nothing anti-social about adressing or verbally "harassing" one's critics.
Well I think that says a lot about you. You seem to have an endless list of excuses to justify Scientology's crimes, ant antisocial behavior. Are you a Scientologist?
"A billion year contract" is unrealistic; therefore symbolic.
Pyramid schemes are just as anti-social as gambling; both attract a certain type of people who get their kicks out of such activities. The people I know who participated in pyramid schemes, were well aware of what they were doing; much like someone playing roullette at the casino.
I'm comparing the similarities between scientologists and 'normal', opportunistic, working-class people.
I popped into a scientology church once for the fun of it. An elderly lady gave me a brochure, but it was pretty clear to us both that I wasn't scientology material. They haven't offended me, so I see no reason to quarrel with them. Today I'd never dream of converting to scientology, though.
@tommysch Now this may come as a shock to you but, are not the entire world. Hubbard was trained and supported by Naval intelligence. And do you know who else? Lt Col Michael Aquino, founder of the Temple of Set. Army intelligence supports him.
@mymovienerd So much for our US constitution...unreasonable and humiliating patdowns, govt controlled mass media, rampant drug trafficking by the CIA,white slavery, child abuse and coverups, a National Security act that supercedes the constitution,fascist bailouts for the ultra wealthy using the taxpayers, the suppresion of genuine innovations in the energy industry,the corporate control of the majority of politicians, lol. Be careful when pointing, remember you have three fingers pointing back.
@firestrings272 These things you've mentioned are things that other countries struggle with as well but why ban books from a religion? Oh yeah, where do you see white slavery? You must be listening to too much Alex Jones.
@mymovienerd Why demonize a religion, invade a country and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people and then use security as a reason to destroy our constitution and suppress legitimate dissent?
"10 millions followers worldwide"
I highly doubt that
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CrocodilusPontifex 3 weeks ago
only reason they are persecuted in russia is because they didnt pay off the right politicians..
Frequent2001 1 month ago
Omg out of all places, Russia :D
I love you Russia
CaramelHoteI 1 month ago
Yes, Scientology is extremist all right- extremely retarded.
anonUK 1 month ago
Good job Russia! Now if they'd do something about those huge groups of Muslims occupying public streets for their prayers, we'd really be getting somewhere.
ProfessorxVile 2 months ago
they call themselves a church, that's blasphemy!, the church is the bride of the Son of God (if u dont have knowledge what that means, study), a church is made for the sole purpose of giving honor to God, now tell me what does this scientology crap stands for ? pls dont tell me science, since science is just another tool called by us, but discovered to people by nonetheless, God.
valentyn0 2 months ago
@valentyn0 the moron is you, idiot you did not understand that I HATE SCIENTOLOGY and I am very proud that a great country like Russia is doing something about it, I really hope they kill them all, and if I could help, I would do it with the biggest pleasure.
ossobuco888 2 months ago
fuck scientology and its fucking robots..
firebode 3 months ago
Scientology is a brainwashing cult.Good job Russia!
worshiphim11 3 months ago
In what do those Scientologists actually believe?
animalpolice 3 months ago
@animalpolice On Aliens. :)
MrRobokoper 1 month ago
Why ban a science fiction book? You're only giving it credit.
This is censorship, and it's wrong. People tend to forget that censorship may also be not in their favour. For instance, scientology has apparently managed to take down lots of videos on youtube criticizing them.
Robin90modell 4 months ago 2
132 are scientologist douchbags
Hell6125 5 months ago
As much as I hate the Cult of Scientology, I do not think censorship is ever the right answer.
ThomasMoar 5 months ago
each time a person jions scientology it means very little. every time someone leaves the cult it is celebrated!
jnycnuk 6 months ago
Thanx Russia always a lighthouse in defending the man against the depravation of religion!
ossobuco888 6 months ago
@ossobuco888 u are a moron, Russia is a religious-moral state, but this scientology crap is not a religion, it's a scheme.
valentyn0 2 months ago
Which criteria are held for determining if something is a cult or a religion?
Does it require the belief system in question to be a recognized religion to become a religion?
I just don't see what's so evil about scientology that is abscent in recognized religions.
TakesTwoToTango 7 months ago
@TakesTwoToTango If try to speak against cos, you will be harassed, and maybe even killed. Still believe it's not evil?
OwNeD05 6 months ago
@OwNeD05 Did you even read my comment?
TakesTwoToTango 6 months ago
@TakesTwoToTango Yeah, I did. It's because these things that I mentioned earlier( of course there are more things like that) it's not considered as a religion.
OwNeD05 6 months ago
@OwNeD05 That stuff happens in all religions...
TakesTwoToTango 6 months ago
America and UK seriously need to do that
kennytheangel1997 7 months ago
Scientology = devil worship
impkap 7 months ago
I'm kind of mixed on this, i hate scietology, but i also hate book banning.
JeremyMilne 7 months ago
FU...K U SCIENTOLOGY SCUM ..CLOSE THEM AND KICK THEM OUT
soNofLeoniDasandLas 7 months ago 2
While I disagree with the banning of any literature, I can understany Russia has done this. Hubbard was a racist, maniacal, megalomaniac and a fraud. He clearly outlines in his books that scietnology should spread across the world and that anyone who won't join people below 2.0 on the tonescale who refuse to sign up, should be "disposed of quietly and without sorrow". Examples of people below 2.0 on Hubbards tone-scale, homosexuals, who he brands as being mentally ill.
xenuismaster 7 months ago
would love to unbutton the host. hubbah hubbah ;)
RokhuStar 7 months ago
Let's all move to RUSSIA! What a great place!
marc0987654321 7 months ago
I believe in the tooth fairy. Does that mean I'll get band in Russia?
drewzillasaurusrex 7 months ago
@drewzillasaurusrex if you talk such shit in public yeah you will thank god
Ikazu1991 7 months ago
Thank you Russia! finally a civil approach to the fact free speech doesn't cover retarded brainwashing...
DMTilian 7 months ago
Way to go RUSSIA!
whatsupbudbud 7 months ago
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Victory for free speech!
Fuck Russia, barbaric, backward ass country.
Dhomess 7 months ago
@Dhomess long live the 4th Reich of the Corporation of the United States!
Ph4ntom74 7 months ago
@Dhomess you want free speech... you have youtube, you want to live with other people... you have laws. Just becasue i belive in sicnence doesnt make it a religion!, you cant modify a word just because you feel abused by the fact that some people are religious. Science is a study, its evolutionary and progressive, RELIGION is why you are who you are beyond yourself.
andyelgrand0 7 months ago
Very good just sad that the CULT still brain wach the american nation. Sad how they are cotroled by there government. Even that 99% of people hate scientology in the US the government dont care about the abuse of its people. SAD......
fanus1707 7 months ago
It should be labelled evil, not "extreme".
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Good for you.
And, if believing they are brainwashed makes you happy, be happy. You have the right to believe whatever you want.
Gmmaverick 7 months ago
Wish the U.S will do the same.
pannysat 7 months ago
@pannysat
The US won't ban books, but I'm pretty sure there'll be FBI raids in the near future.
sk8mike 7 months ago
from the tone of these comments, looks like religion's got people distracted, caught up and boiling over as usual
dentistsugardusty 7 months ago
@dentistsugardusty
At whyweprotest we are more concerned with the coporate side that hides behind the mask of religion that commits all the violations and rights abuses, murders ect
TheAsfaloth 7 months ago
Good decision Russia - stamp on the insanity of hubbard and his cult of cash. 10,000,000 followers world wide my arse. The real figures are in the tens of thousands in reality.
verybigsword 7 months ago
can be ban jews to ?
AndrewMacedonia 7 months ago
Pause @0:00 and look at her face.
fuckamerica109 8 months ago
Ban all religion.
Also ban this one. Dont need another religion for people who cant live without having a father figure hovering over them watching their every move
Demov12 8 months ago
Thank you Russia for making the world a better place !!!
UnitedEuropa 8 months ago 55
@UnitedEuropa WHAT ASSHOLE PROPAGANDIST ARE U? THE Russia IS ONE SLAVE OF JUDAO- ZIONISTS.
THE PUTIN AND MEDNEDEV ARE JEW-MASONS FOR THIS THE Russia IS ALIVE TODAY. IF WANT THE ZIONIST CAN DESTROY THE Russia IN ONE DAY INSIDE.
PS. THE TRUTH IS Hated
unfukkkmee 6 months ago
@unfukkkmee If you want to say something please do it in a normal way instead of swearing. It's really immature and writing in caps doesn't make your agrument true. I wasn't even talking about zionism in the first place.
UnitedEuropa 6 months ago
@UnitedEuropa GIVE ORDERS TO Russians, NOT TO ME OK NEO BARBARIAN ?
unfukkkmee 6 months ago
@unfukkkmee Again i wasn't talking about zionism. If you want to preach to people go do so to someone else who actually wants to talk to you. Stop saying random things and writing in all caps it's really immature. I am not ordering you to do anything. You are responding to my comment. If you don't want to listen to me just ignore the comment and move on with your life. Just keep your opinion to yourself next time.
UnitedEuropa 6 months ago
@UnitedEuropa SHUT UP
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@unfukkkmee If you want me to shut up then why do you keep commenting? Like i said you don't have to respond to what i say if you don't like it.
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Scientology is a religon, get over it. Respect it.
dancar567 8 months ago
@dancar567 are you an idiot by any chance? WHy should any religion get respect? respect is earned and when a religion comes along that is as see through as a $10 hookers blouse people have every right to speak out and take action. This is a business cult NOT a religion. Even the accepted religions of the world like christianity and Islam deserve no respect - look how many people have died in the name of either during the crusades, the inquisition and then tell me again why we should respect it.
verybigsword 7 months ago
In mother russia, they don't give a fuck about freedom of speech
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ZedAlfa273 8 months ago
every religion is both a sect and cult... cant really see why Scientology is that horrible... million of people is getting killed every year because of christianity and islam. They have some outragious comments and practise but its limitid how many peoples life they are caused to end.
rytmen 8 months ago 2
@rytmen Im a Christan-- and I belive Noah was 900 years old-- all species of animal fit on a ship with enough food to outlast a 40 day night storm, I belive a crippled old guy climed up a mountain to see god and essentialy carry back down 2, 80 pound bags of concrete while using a cane (couldnt god just have sat the damn things on the ground (why so shy). Hey at least i can get away with anything cos Jesus died for my sins-- great insurance policy dont you think
AXISOFHENDRIX 8 months ago 2
@rytmen read about the policy of disconnection, the many many deaths caused by scientology, the gouging of scientologists by the cult for cash for courses, the human rights abuses by the cult of its members.
jnycnuk 8 months ago
"No country has found the books to be extremists"
Well thats an outright lie. Just check out the amount of countries that have banned the cult over the years. Check out their "Fair Game" policy or "Operation Snow White". Not friendly to government, critics, or civilians. My god theyre not even friendly to family members that have been trapped by the cult or the ex-members. The only people they like are those on the payroll and their current members!
NicosMind 8 months ago
Some Scientology members in San Francisco, California showed up at my house to find my friend who skipped his second day of "auditing." They were not given my address and I had a feeling we would be followed by them. There are Scientologists who are the law enforcement and see themselves as beyond the law. Good for Russia!
kickitdean 8 months ago 2
L. Ron Hubbard was a Sci-Fi fiction writer...He made the remark that religion was where the real money was to a friend before he 'invented' Scientology. He was very smart, a very smart fiction writer that found a way to make more money than he was writing what used to be called "Pulp Fiction" short stories for the 5 cent 'Rag's' (a small soft-back thin book made with cheap paper..therefore "Pulp" as in cheap paper) Not a good background for the leader of his own church and religion.
MrHeteroErectus 8 months ago
Good about time someone banned this cult of rape, incest and child molestation perpetuated by Hollywood Scum.
Infanterie 8 months ago 34
@Infanterie Thre is no rape or child molestation or incest but it is still really really bad.
aironeous 3 months ago
It's recognized as such because it falls under such a definition. But it is not (and never was) a religion on a traditional sense. It is an APPLIED RELIGIOUS PHYLOSOPHY. (doubt you can tell the difference)
Once again - there goes your "expertise"
I don't have to prove anything. YOU are the accuser, remember?
And Scn never claim the e-meter does anything by itself. That's just another lie.
I'm watching a documentary and don't pay much attention to brain washed sheeple,like u, that's all
Gmmaverick 8 months ago
@Gmmaverick --"don't pay much attention to brain washed sheeple,like u, that's all" a big lol at that one . I am afraid most religious folk are brainwashed, its part of the program. Especially so in $cientology where you are not allowed to say anything against hubbard or miscavige. go on I dare you - disagree with him. Care to deny the story of Xenu/Xemu because I can point you right to a lecture by hubbard himself on that one. Who is the real brainwashed person here?
verybigsword 7 months ago
@verybigsword
If I have any disagreement or not is none of your business.
The fact that you believe that to be the case, doesn't mean that's "fact" Like your assumption, of "where I am" not knowing anything about me. Unless you have evidence about me to prove it...
The story of "Xenu" is apparently part of ot III, so you'll have to ask someone on that stage,
Gmmaverick 7 months ago
@Gmmaverick . I dont need to ask about Xenu from someone on OT3, for one thing they would not say a word about it in any case and secondly because I have already heard the story from the lips of ron hubbard. Given the evident attitude of scientology and some of the TR routines I have observed here on Youtube, it is CLEAR that people are brainwashed into their way of thinking. ALL religion is about CONTROL. Not just scientology and brainwashing can be subtle or obvious (scientology is obvious).
verybigsword 7 months ago
На русском запили, блядь!!!
RidlleForest 8 months ago
Well I should have thought over that last statement a bit more...not all cults are necessarily opposed to freedom of speech. This one, however, is. Its founder insisted his followers stop at nothing to silence critics, so my point stands about what the existence of Scientology can mean for freedom of speech.
MarxistJediist 8 months ago
did the host admit to be a part of the church? she said: 'are WE one step closer to be banned in the country altogether?', listen 0:20
jahabdank 8 months ago
/watch?v=rCGP-0545EU
May it haunt your dreams.
Pivotman1 8 months ago
HAHAHAHHA I hope they finally ban them. GO RUSSIA!
jonhdoe1395 8 months ago
Did they ever read 'The Bible'.
ciberwarrior 8 months ago
No country should ban anything like this.
As bullshit as Scientology is, id much rather live in a country of free speech and live with those whom i disagree, rather than country of censorship with those i dont.
Government censorship of any opinion, no matter how extreme, is 100% wrong.
treysparker 8 months ago
@treysparker You live in a country like this and its called America, a country where the society is FUCKED UP. NO THANKS. You can have freedom without retarded things like that.
jonhdoe1395 8 months ago
@treysparker so a group openly supporting suicide of adults is good? or promoting sexual relations between minors and adults, or segregating peoples?
rocoreb 8 months ago
@treysparker I agree with you, but I feel the need to point out something. This is an organization with a paramilitary branch and a "fair game" policy of criminally (even violently) harassing critics into silence. So, it is because that right is paramount that such activities should result in the most severe penalties. Cults are inherently hostile to freedom of speech, and as such their very existence is a threat to that right.
MarxistJediist 8 months ago
Everyone needs to stop bashing Scientology.
dancar567 8 months ago
@dancar567 If you've read about what they do, you should know it's perfectly warranted.
YaikonMetal 8 months ago
Ima get so much hate for this comment
Dark4156k 8 months ago
Dear Hitler,
Please come back and kill all the scientologists in the world and not the jews.
Dark4156k 8 months ago
Funny when news anchor asks "what will Tom Cruise and John Travolta have to say about this". John Travolta will say what John Travolta always says:
"A wop-bob-aloo-bop. A wop bam boom!"
mphello 8 months ago
This is an easy one: scientology is bullshit crap, just like the bible and koran.
And, yes - they are a cult, just like christianity and islam.
But, it is still WRONG to censor free speech. "Extremism" is no excuse. Pure subjective opinion about what is "extremist". If they want to ban scientology because scientologists are ultra-litigious, then Russia should do that.
mphello 8 months ago
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blancoist 8 months ago
Why don't they ban the Koran or Bible while they're at it? Even if it's a cult, what Russia is doing is censorship. But that's just my opinion.
worldman29isback 8 months ago
I wanna have sex with Sarah
MrRein1988 8 months ago
all religions are a cult, or a sect.
CreepX 8 months ago
lol scientology
djlegacy96 8 months ago
A long time ago, a failed science fiction writer named L. Ron Hubbard once said the best way to make money in America is to start a religion. Shortly thereafter, Dianetics was released and the cult of Scientology, which is based on fraud and fleecing the flock, was born.
ChipArgyle 8 months ago
@ChipArgyle Could you tell me where's the evidence he actually said that? I'd like to see it.
Gmmaverick 8 months ago
@Gmmaverick don-lindsay-archive[dot]org/scientology/start.a.religion.html
An interesting read.
ChipArgyle 8 months ago
@ChipArgyle Do you call that "evidence" to *prove* he actually said that?
That's people spreading a rumor. It's even stated there.
Do you know the phrase -allegedly attributed to Joseph Goebbels- : "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
Or perhaps you are aware of it and pursuing that end?
Because if not, I think it would be good for you to check out the meaning of "useful idiot"
You may wanna check this too: watch?v=jUYFr-uDQgg
Gmmaverick 8 months ago
@Gmmaverick Yes, I do. There are enough first person claims that he said that, in some way or another, on numerous occasions, to different people, that I believe it to be true. The construct of Scientology fully supports it. Anyone who's done any digging into Scientology knows that it wrests every spare nickel from its followers using numerous techniques including fraud and lies (called auditing) and in some cases, outright brute force. It's not a religion. It should be a crime.
ChipArgyle 8 months ago
@ChipArgyle At least you have the decency to admit that all you do is repeat what others have said, -helping in this way- by adding your voice to spread a rumor but have no actual evidence to support the claim, hoping it becomes "true" just like Joseph Goebbels allegedly said
And I'm pretty sure you can very easily bring them down presenting all those accusations before a court of law
I'm pretty sure it'll soon be on the news. So I'll be watching you succeed (gonna get some pop corn =)
Gmmaverick 8 months ago
@Gmmaverick Your Scientology-addled brain fails to see the obvious difference between your Goebbels stance and the article I steered you to. Goebbels was one man who kept saying the same thing repeatedly. The article discussed NUMEROUS people stating they had spoken with Hubbard DIRECTLY and that was his position time and again. In a court of law such people would be called WITNESSES.
Now, be a good lad and refute my position on the fraud that is auditing. That ought to be good for a laugh.
ChipArgyle 8 months ago
@ChipArgyle Right. It OBVIOUS it's very "different" one person repeating a lie, to a bunch of people repeating the same lie and thus convincing "smart" people like you to help them out.
U are not only a useful idiot. You are happy to be1
Auditing? People goes there, get auditing, and pay for it. What is the problem with that?
BTW, you "expertise" is exposed when you say. "It is not a religion" if you'd know anything about it, you'd know, it isn't. Not the type people understand by "religion"
Gmmaverick 8 months ago
@Gmmaverick 1. You need to learn much more about Hubbard to defend him. 2. Since 1993, the IRS has recognized Scientology as a religion. Its acceptance as a religion varies by country. Why is it called the Church of Scientology if it's not a religion? 3. Until you tell us exactly what auditing is, what machinery is used, the scientific foundation of said machinery, and show us INDEPENDENT PROOF that it does ANYTHING AT ALL, I'm done. Are you drinking? Your English has fallen to shit.
ChipArgyle 8 months ago
@HyperBorealOperator Precisely, once you ban the books it give the adherents of the cult or religion victim status. It reminds me of what Theodor Herzl said, "The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”.
xxdiogenescynicxx 8 months ago
"cause for extreme activities"
Well by that reasoning they should outlaw the Koran and the Bible as well.
sdrawkcabgnipytmi 8 months ago
sarah is smokin hot!
toppgunn2232 8 months ago
How about a religion that practices ritualistic cannibalism? Eating the flesh and drinking the blood of a guy that has been dead for over 2,000 years? Isn't that extremist?
cchessmaster 8 months ago
@cchessmaster Don't worry! It's only bread and wine!
lollipopsandwich 8 months ago
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@HyperBorealOperator You got that right.
I just gonna wait till they come for the ones whom are cheering at this (and similar things) just to see their faces ha ha..
Then I'm gonna leave. I'm prepared.
Because they are gonna do it. Just watch...
They are gonna come down on the entire population worldwide. The events taking place at the international arena at the moment is just the tip of the iceberg. It's just down hill from here on out.
I'd suggest you to get ready buddy. This is it.
Gmmaverick 8 months ago
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Gmmaverick 8 months ago
All religions are ''cults'' or ''sects''.
KinguNoKin 8 months ago
scientology idiots. when is rt gona get 720?!
wardydave 8 months ago
reterded shit
AlexanderSigal 8 months ago
good for the russians -- they are people with common sense! they know crap when they see it
jadetiger88888 8 months ago
I don't need you to tell me what the situation is. I know more about this entire thing that you ever dream of knowing.
Gmmaverick 8 months ago
BAD CULT! NO VICTIMS FOR YOU!
RadioPaul1 8 months ago
@RadioPaul1 LOL!
firestrings272 8 months ago
Gmmaverick 8 months ago
@Gmmaverick The thing is that Scientology looks more like the Nazi's than those they came for. Russians/Soviets understand all to well what evil cults look like and what they can do if they take power. LRH stated all men would be his slaves. Scientology does teach the doctrine that they will take over the world and have policies on how to do it. Good to Russia for banning that evil shit.
RadioPaul1 8 months ago
Good shit Cult of $cientology is an extremist ideology, while I don't disagree with some of their views on psychiatric medicine I think they are dangerous and should be banned. They scam people out of all their money, and brainwash them. They are just as dangerous as the Ayn Rand cult
MadXMax187 8 months ago
God bless you Russia !!! Ortodox Brothers !
lenda92 8 months ago
Scientology is nothing but a NWO cult
FIGHT IT !!!!
jasonthemankiller 8 months ago
@jasonthemankiller NWO UFO to be more accurate.
RadioPaul1 8 months ago
my respect for russia just went up a notch
letsgetstuy 8 months ago 21
What Tom Cruise and John Travolta will have to say? WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT Tom Cruise and John Travolta have to say! They're a couple of credulous prats.
mouthyweasel 8 months ago
Sadly, some cults enslave and/or exploit their members. Scientology has been accused of being a cult that uses "brainwashing" to isolate the individual from their friends and family. This charge has also been leveled at non-Hindu groups in India and also against Islam and other groups in many countries.
(Disclosure: I don't happen to believe that L.Ron Hubbard, Claude Vorilhon ("Raël").Joseph Smith or Mohammad were "prophets of the Living God" or had anything to offer mankind, but lies)
BoudiccaBlanc 8 months ago
damn banning books next they will be burning them
thirteeeeeeen 8 months ago
@vroom2000 Die a heretic!
truppeaerotransporta 8 months ago
Russia ain't some kind of globalist melting pot like the rest of the world. They're not afraid to be 'politically incorrect'. They're protecting their heritage & way of life from outsiders who want to take control and poison it. The Western world is so corrupt, we're taking too many steps back! Society's a bloody mess and there's no way out. I say GOOD for the Russians, they're good people with common sense! : )
BootboyJohnny 8 months ago 31
@BootboyJohnny You know, lots of russia is a cold-war abandoned wasteland right? And that lots of their "Heritage" is lot amidst neo nazis and people who dont understand that Stalin was an idiot?
Yeah, they're trying to protect it now, but it's done been shattered apart for many years D:
Common sense yeah. Good people? Ehhhhh no more than the average person in the US.
peepeevagi 8 months ago
@BootboyJohnny more like censorists.
LordKaisen 8 months ago
@BootboyJohnny You have confused the Russian government with "the Russians", and you have likewise con founded suppression of unpopular views with "protecting their heritage". If your supposed heritage is so weak that it can't stand a challenge from a lot of brain dead Scientology nut cases, it doesn't deserve to survive anyway.
The best way to oppose Scientology's crackpot nonsense is by offering an alternative, not by suppressing human rights.
KaptKan1 8 months ago
@BootboyJohnny You REALLY have never traveled to Russia have you? It's one of the most corrupt Nations I've ever seen....You can't even do business over there without bribing everyone and their brother. Try Googling ORGANIZED CRIME AND CORRUPTION IN RUSSIA:
IMPLICATIONS FOR U.S. AND INTERNATIONAL LAW
frankensteinmoneymac 8 months ago
@BootboyJohnny Racist assholes is more like it.
hundredand 8 months ago
@BootboyJohnny
Wow, holding up Russia in contrast to the corrupt Western world? You are thoroughly delusional.
EikC 8 months ago
@BootboyJohnny Scientology may be a joke, but banning it is impeding on the freedom of speech of Russia and is paving the way for a slippery slope where anything that the Russian government would deem as anti government could be banned.
TehOwnerer999 8 months ago
In Soviet Russia, you rip-off Scientology.
ElectricSexPants 8 months ago
exactly what about scientology is extremist or anti-social?
CJBombaYe 8 months ago
@CJBombaYe Who cares, as long as they are banned.
tommysch 8 months ago
@tommysch
lol
CJBombaYe 8 months ago
@CJBombaYe
Besides the fact that they make many unprovable claims, and practice medicine without a license, they also bilk their followers for every penny they own, and every penny they could ever borrow. On top of that they are paranoid zealots that talk and harass their members when they try to escape, and they try to destroy the lives of anyone that speaks out against them.
sk8mike 8 months ago 6
@sk8mike
so i've heard; doesn't sound very convincing since the same can be said about governments and armies.
CJBombaYe 8 months ago
@CJBombaYe
So you don't mind an unelected corporation behaving like a "government or army"? Is that the argument you're trying to make?
sk8mike 8 months ago
@sk8mike
i haven't seen any concrete evidence that should suggest anything extremist or anti-social. It's a point not an arguement. All organizations demand payment and symbolic sacrifices, so that wouldn't count as anti-social. Whether or not I like corporations is irrelevant.
CJBombaYe 8 months ago
@CJBombaYe Well you must not be looking very hard. Did you hear how Scientology harassed Paulette Cooper and tried to frame her for terrorism (Operation Freakout)? Or how about how Scientology was convicted for burglary, and espionage against the US, and Canadian governments? Or the death of Lisa McPherson? Or how they stalk, and harass their ex-members and critics? Or their recent fraud conviction in France? Or their Disconnection (family separation), Fair Game, Dead Agent doctrines etc?
sk8mike 8 months ago
@sk8mike
You wrote: "Well you must not be looking very hard..."(I missed that post)
You're right I haven't been looking very hard, because everyone with whom I've had this discussion, unconvincingly based their arguements on rumours.
Never heard of Paulette Cooper or the espionage. I had no idea that Lisa's parents were scientologists; strange that they haven't mentioned it in the media.
I personally know Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Christians and Muslims who are extremely fraudulent.
CJBombaYe 8 months ago
@CJBombaYe
What "rumors", can you give any examples?
Lisa's McPherson's parents weren't Scientologists where did you get that from? You should look up "Operation Snow White."
So committing organized fraud isn't an antisocial activity to you?
sk8mike 8 months ago
@sk8mike
P.S.Madonna "disconnected" herself from her family when she joined kaballism.
CJBombaYe 8 months ago
@CJBombaYe
Divorce, and Scientology's disconnection doctrine are extremely different. Divorced couples often still talk to each other. When Scientologist "disconnect" from family members they sever all ties.
sk8mike 8 months ago
@CJBombaYe You're downplaying it quite a bit there. Do you consider signing a billion year contract, working 100 hour weeks, and only earning $50 a week a "symbolic sacrifices?" Or paying upwards of $300K to reach a phony state called OT III, and learn about an evil galactic overlord named Xenu? I suppose you don't think that separating families, or harassing your ex-followers, and critics is anti-social either, just normal behavior?
sk8mike 8 months ago
@sk8mike (2/2)
Drugs and alcohol separate and damage more families than scientology ever could, but both are legal(western-made films definately legitimize drug abuse). I see nothing anti-social about adressing or verbally "harassing" one's critics.
CJBombaYe 8 months ago
@CJBombaYe
Well I think that says a lot about you. You seem to have an endless list of excuses to justify Scientology's crimes, ant antisocial behavior. Are you a Scientologist?
sk8mike 8 months ago
@sk8mike (1/2)
"A billion year contract" is unrealistic; therefore symbolic.
Pyramid schemes are just as anti-social as gambling; both attract a certain type of people who get their kicks out of such activities. The people I know who participated in pyramid schemes, were well aware of what they were doing; much like someone playing roullette at the casino.
CJBombaYe 8 months ago
@CJBombaYe
The 100 hour work weeks, and slave wages are not "symbolic."
I'm not impressed by your anecdotes. Stop making excuses for Scientology, it's pathetic.
sk8mike 8 months ago
@sk8mike
I'm comparing the similarities between scientologists and 'normal', opportunistic, working-class people.
I popped into a scientology church once for the fun of it. An elderly lady gave me a brochure, but it was pretty clear to us both that I wasn't scientology material. They haven't offended me, so I see no reason to quarrel with them. Today I'd never dream of converting to scientology, though.
CJBombaYe 8 months ago
Good thing.
tommysch 8 months ago
Scientology is a product of Navy intelligence. Mind control and manipulation on a very high degree. Good on Russia to ban such a dangerous group.
firestrings272 8 months ago
@firestrings272 Scientology is a product of a failed sci-fi writer... Dont give them credit they dont deserve you d bag.
A Navy program... lol
tommysch 8 months ago
@tommysch L Ron Hubbard was a navy intelligence officer dumbass. Learn something idiot.
firestrings272 8 months ago
@firestrings272 And a Sci-Fi writer... If I start a sect it does not mean my employer did. This shit is just about milking money from the followers.
tommysch 8 months ago
@tommysch Now this may come as a shock to you but, are not the entire world. Hubbard was trained and supported by Naval intelligence. And do you know who else? Lt Col Michael Aquino, founder of the Temple of Set. Army intelligence supports him.
firestrings272 8 months ago
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Metalreaper007 8 months ago
что за бред?
OrangeAcika 8 months ago
So much for freedom of speech in Russia. The shades of the Iron Curtain are showing.
mymovienerd 8 months ago
@mymovienerd So much for our US constitution...unreasonable and humiliating patdowns, govt controlled mass media, rampant drug trafficking by the CIA,white slavery, child abuse and coverups, a National Security act that supercedes the constitution,fascist bailouts for the ultra wealthy using the taxpayers, the suppresion of genuine innovations in the energy industry,the corporate control of the majority of politicians, lol. Be careful when pointing, remember you have three fingers pointing back.
firestrings272 8 months ago
@firestrings272 These things you've mentioned are things that other countries struggle with as well but why ban books from a religion? Oh yeah, where do you see white slavery? You must be listening to too much Alex Jones.
mymovienerd 8 months ago
@mymovienerd Why demonize a religion, invade a country and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people and then use security as a reason to destroy our constitution and suppress legitimate dissent?
firestrings272 8 months ago