just want to point out that its also good to trade kills if your enemy has a oracle. since it helps both you and the team, sure he gainst some gold but not enough to earn back that oracle.
@TryOurAMVS Depends a whole lot though. Let's say you see a Janna with Oracle under her tower with low hp. You are the AD Carry and flash in and kill her but you die yourself. Not only have you given away 300g+ to the support whom will only buy another oracle, but you've also lost A LOT of farm. Not worth it imo, if you can get away with it without dying. Go right ahead. Trading kills is never a good idea. Don't do it.
the loosing streak thing is sooooooooo true. its the main reason that my highest loss streak was 5, and my highest win streak was 13 xD. Nice video btw
@WasbeerSyndicate I can gladly say that ive improved immensly after making this movie, sure my ELO hasent risen yet but i never rage anymore and i find the game alot more fun seeing as no one is raging back at me either :D
@WasbeerSyndicate I would say quite the opposite. After her remake she is amazingly strong. Got a new cowboy in town aswell, Hybrid Ryze - holy CRAP he is strong.
Once you've lost, keeping on playing MIGHT not just by the right idea.
This is not the right place to fight for on through it.
Unless if you care about the time you spend here.
No matter your rating, if you've lost 2-3 times in a row, and keep on going.. the chances are that you'll play worse then you'll play better then you have in the previous games.
@aGuyAndaGirlGaming If i win 3 in a row and then lose 3 in a row i automatically go do something else. Just gets worse. Best ive had was 12 wins in a row, worst ive had was 14 losses in a row. I quit playing for a month after that losing streak. Haha. I was that annoyed :)
Another good scenario where trading kills is fair:
You're carry gets there support, for your life, your teams support.
Your AD Carry will get to stay in lane and farm while there AD carry looses that, even if both AD carry got the kills, your ad carry comes out way on top.
@aGuyAndaGirlGaming You must have misstyped or something. Cause you just said: "Your carry kills their Support and you die to their Carry" This wont matter since the "better" AD Carry then zones/outfarms the other carry. Maybe that's you or maybs its him :)
Seriously I really doubt anyone, even in competetive play that can achieve 200 cs by 20 mins withouth losing other key factors in the game, ganks, kills, towers, drake baron etc etc.
@Stoppabell Trade kills can be okay as FB aswell, but you're saying ward for 5 players? Who should ward for 5 players? Support? If you think that ONE player can ward for 5 players, then THINK again.
Anyone and everyone has to ward for themselves, a support buys majorly of wards, jungler buys second most and the rest buys at least 1 ward every port back.
@xzec That's exactly my point. You ward for yourself, BUT in solo queue you have to anticipate that 80% of your team is full-blown retards thus warding 5x more then you do in a higher ELO where most people ward their own lanes.
no no no no no i completely disagree with the first thing he say "i lose when i rage, so dont rage" no no no no no it's the complete opposite it's not that i lose when i rage...i'm raging cuz i'm losing
@DeadManLand Because of you raging while your team is losing is only sealing your fate. Maybe just stay calm if your losing and co-ordinate your team to victory. PROTECT dragon/baron, ward, continue last-hitting. Trust me if they have even 10 extra kills you can make a comeback by getting the buffs, getting the dragon, preventing them from getting baron and just focusing on last-hitting. Also if you are having a bad game and are getting raged on just ignore the ragers and focus on getting gold.
Hmm i think this can happening in a ranked in the fight of the bluebuff. Btw very good video and if you wonder why i dont write to you stoppabell its because i'm on my iphone and cant Find the answer buttom^^
This is just pure shit .. raging improves my gameplay, there's good players and bad players ... not raging failers besides this kid who made this video ..
@sodastream88 This kid is 25 :) There is no reason to rage, you honestly think anyone will play better cause some overhorny kid types crap in the chat? Everytime someone types something besides SS, MIA, Dragon, timers etc you lose concentration. Concentration that could've avoided you dying to a gank, losing those CS, seeing that glimpse of a potential gank on the map etc. You are one of the most important people that should watch this video, thouroughly...
I think that 200 by 20 is to much, for a average player like myself. I can do it but then I forget everything else, like zoning, map awareness, harassing and so forth. 100 by 20 is for me a achiveable goal as a avarage player.
@TrippleTimeBomb Farm beats everything. Espescially if you farm near your tower. Talk to your jungler and have him harass the lane early - that will make your opponent more wary about ganks and losing CS automatically no that most of the time. 80 by 10minutes is a fair goal for an average player that plays AD Carry. 100 by 20minutes is what i would like to call a huge failure.
Just practice, youll see what i mean by farming beats all :)
@Stoppabell I know last hitting is everything, mostly by watching hige Elo streams like Dyrus, Chaox etc. Depending on the champion I play I can farm better or worse. Like with TF I think I could manage around 80 by 10 min my only problem is to find the mantra when to haras, still practicing! Btw, good video, I follow all the other steppes :>
@Dethelem Having fun is why we play the game. But if you only want fun and don't really care about winning/losing the id suggest for those people to get to normal games or even Dominion.
I'm a competetive person so if i lose i get in a sour mood. When i win, i requeue and want more. :)
@Hestrup1 It is, but prior to going into that trading kills scenario you have to consider "will i get this kill even if i die?" How many times can you honestly say thats gonna happen? Most of the time i skip it since i cant remember what times all lanes have their flashes up etc.
awesome video i liked the champ pick part, most of the time i always want play solotop irelia/skarner or whateever, and i get f*ckin mad everytime i dont get solotop (somtimes i jungle abit). Lol'd at the twich meme on wards :P that's basically every game i play with my Non-ranked friends they are like: "wards? why do we have to buy wards? and i try to explain them and just dont give a fuck, they overextend and cry when they get ganked. That part with loosing streak and sad mood was great too.
@Mactav3 Thanks mate. Just to prove a point. Last night i played about 6 ranked games, and lost 5. I raged in every one of those games and should've lost all 6.
Today i played 6 games and was on skype with a mate, didnt rage (that much) and won 4 or 5 of them.
" Do NOT trade kills: This is something that happens way to often, WAAAAAY to often. The only time it's somewhat good to trade kills is when your opponent has doublebuff and you are 200% sure he will die. " Or when the enemy is on a killing spree
EVERY lol player should see this. I can't count how many times I tell my entire team to ward when they just whine and bitch about how they aren't support, yet still overextend like crazy then whine that they get ganked and killed.
@schattenskorpion I've never stated i do 200 cs at 20min. It's pointers on how to improve your gameplay. If you listen to what i say in the begining of the video you'll understand.
"this video is made just as much for myself as it is for the entire community."
scrub
moxito1 2 hours ago
so theres this guy at 1400 trying to teach me how to play :o dafuq
Wondermis 1 week ago
@Wondermis Not forcing this on anyone, it's simply basic knowledge a lot of people don't do/know/care about.
Stoppabell 1 week ago
@Wondermis so there is this random guy pointing irrelevant stuff.
vaporizeru 1 week ago
i have won games after raging!
navisoul 1 week ago
@navisoul We all have, but it doesn't make it easier :)
Stoppabell 1 week ago
just want to point out that its also good to trade kills if your enemy has a oracle. since it helps both you and the team, sure he gainst some gold but not enough to earn back that oracle.
TryOurAMVS 2 weeks ago
@TryOurAMVS Depends a whole lot though. Let's say you see a Janna with Oracle under her tower with low hp. You are the AD Carry and flash in and kill her but you die yourself. Not only have you given away 300g+ to the support whom will only buy another oracle, but you've also lost A LOT of farm. Not worth it imo, if you can get away with it without dying. Go right ahead. Trading kills is never a good idea. Don't do it.
Stoppabell 2 weeks ago
But i cant rage at them when the game is over QQ
paranidherc 2 weeks ago
@paranidherc The scoreboard? Perfect place to go apeshit on people ^^
Stoppabell 2 weeks ago
Updating my own video, lolwut?! I went from 1120 ELO to 1394 ELO just by doing the stuff i explain in the video. Amazing stuff ^^
Stoppabell 1 month ago
@Stoppabell
gj you went from noob elo to noob elo. Amazing stuff ^^
robbev1 3 days ago
@robbev1 Yay me! Never stated i was a pro or anything so i don't see your point :)
Stoppabell 3 days ago
the loosing streak thing is sooooooooo true. its the main reason that my highest loss streak was 5, and my highest win streak was 13 xD. Nice video btw
ghfreakwierdo123 1 month ago
@ghfreakwierdo123 Cheers mate :)
Stoppabell 1 month ago
Good one
Heininoni 1 month ago
@Heininoni Thanks man :)
Stoppabell 1 month ago
So true stuff... Especially about the raging.
I remember when I once felt really at ease, calm and stuff, didn't even flinch when I got my ass killed. The rounds were way better than usual.
WasbeerSyndicate 2 months ago
@WasbeerSyndicate I can gladly say that ive improved immensly after making this movie, sure my ELO hasent risen yet but i never rage anymore and i find the game alot more fun seeing as no one is raging back at me either :D
Stoppabell 2 months ago
@Stoppabell
I think I can say the same goes for me.
This guide helped not only to perform better,
but also have more fun with the game ^^
Less rage -> more fun =D
WasbeerSyndicate 1 month ago
@WasbeerSyndicate Hehe yeah. I started playing Sivir lately and after 25 games ive won 20. SOLOELY on shutting my mouth when shit hits the fan :D
Stoppabell 1 month ago
@Stoppabell Haha xD Nicely done, man! But, isn't she one of the 'weaker' carries? At least, that's what I hear these days.
WasbeerSyndicate 1 month ago
@WasbeerSyndicate I would say quite the opposite. After her remake she is amazingly strong. Got a new cowboy in town aswell, Hybrid Ryze - holy CRAP he is strong.
Stoppabell 1 month ago
100 % truth on the loosing spree fact.
Once you've lost, keeping on playing MIGHT not just by the right idea.
This is not the right place to fight for on through it.
Unless if you care about the time you spend here.
No matter your rating, if you've lost 2-3 times in a row, and keep on going.. the chances are that you'll play worse then you'll play better then you have in the previous games.
aGuyAndaGirlGaming 2 months ago 5
@aGuyAndaGirlGaming If i win 3 in a row and then lose 3 in a row i automatically go do something else. Just gets worse. Best ive had was 12 wins in a row, worst ive had was 14 losses in a row. I quit playing for a month after that losing streak. Haha. I was that annoyed :)
Stoppabell 2 months ago 3
Another good scenario where trading kills is fair:
You're carry gets there support, for your life, your teams support.
Your AD Carry will get to stay in lane and farm while there AD carry looses that, even if both AD carry got the kills, your ad carry comes out way on top.
aGuyAndaGirlGaming 2 months ago
@aGuyAndaGirlGaming You must have misstyped or something. Cause you just said: "Your carry kills their Support and you die to their Carry" This wont matter since the "better" AD Carry then zones/outfarms the other carry. Maybe that's you or maybs its him :)
Stoppabell 2 months ago
Seriously I really doubt anyone, even in competetive play that can achieve 200 cs by 20 mins withouth losing other key factors in the game, ganks, kills, towers, drake baron etc etc.
TheAwesomeMrLantz 2 months ago
@TheAwesomeMrLantz That might be true, might have overstated that abit - fact still stands. Its an achievable goal.
Look at Scarra, he got 300 CS at 24minutes :)
Stoppabell 2 months ago
@Stoppabell Trade kills can be okay as FB aswell, but you're saying ward for 5 players? Who should ward for 5 players? Support? If you think that ONE player can ward for 5 players, then THINK again.
Anyone and everyone has to ward for themselves, a support buys majorly of wards, jungler buys second most and the rest buys at least 1 ward every port back.
xzec 1 month ago
@xzec That's exactly my point. You ward for yourself, BUT in solo queue you have to anticipate that 80% of your team is full-blown retards thus warding 5x more then you do in a higher ELO where most people ward their own lanes.
Stoppabell 1 month ago
u can trade killz if the other has an spree cus u'll get more gold 4 the kill then the other guy
DarkDagon605 2 months ago
@DarkDagon605 he have a killing spree and you wanna feed him more?
AvengedKSevenfold 2 months ago
@DarkDagon605 It's like ive answered the other guys. Most of these tips are for people who really aren't that great at the game. (Myself included)
If you start of thinking you want to trade a kill your doing it wrong in my book.
Even if he has a spree he is so far ahead of you that its highly unlikely you will get him before he gets you.
I still think its a mistake trading kills. Rather play it safe and farm on then to go die and risk more etc.
Stoppabell 2 months ago
took all the tips he told gave me got to 1317 dropped to 1044 -_- then i stopped for a month took ALL the tips he gave me got to 1454 =D
IAmAznm0nkie 2 months ago
@IAmAznm0nkie Grats :)
Stoppabell 2 months ago
no no no no no i completely disagree with the first thing he say "i lose when i rage, so dont rage" no no no no no it's the complete opposite it's not that i lose when i rage...i'm raging cuz i'm losing
DeadManLand 2 months ago
@DeadManLand Because of you raging while your team is losing is only sealing your fate. Maybe just stay calm if your losing and co-ordinate your team to victory. PROTECT dragon/baron, ward, continue last-hitting. Trust me if they have even 10 extra kills you can make a comeback by getting the buffs, getting the dragon, preventing them from getting baron and just focusing on last-hitting. Also if you are having a bad game and are getting raged on just ignore the ragers and focus on getting gold.
lululemon123321 2 months ago
Hmm i think this can happening in a ranked in the fight of the bluebuff. Btw very good video and if you wonder why i dont write to you stoppabell its because i'm on my iphone and cant Find the answer buttom^^
viiktoor4 2 months ago
Thanks man u are decent :)
ShadowEyeXC 2 months ago
Dont u think its good to tradekill against a support before minions have spawned?
viiktoor4 2 months ago
@viiktoor4 That doesn't happen in ranked games. If it does, the one that dies is retarded :) Cept if it's 5v5 firstblood or similar.
Stoppabell 2 months ago
Dude, there's no need to make a guide on HOW TO PLAY, everyone have their own play style. Although nice try.
Btw, you don't need wards if ur mates call ss/mia w/e!
ViggeBs 2 months ago
@ViggeBs
thats the dumbest fucking shit i've heard
enjoy 900 rating scrub god you fucking lowbies make me sick
thsrmyusarnamelol 2 months ago
@thsrmyusarnamelol Hehe maybe he just haven't played ranked games that much to understand how important wards are.
Stoppabell 2 months ago
@ViggeBs Of course everyone have their own playstyle - but this is a teamgame and everyone needs to put in the same effort to be able to win.
Wards win games. Even if you call ss/mia you don't know where they went.
Can't say it too many times....
Wards
Wins
Games.
Stoppabell 2 months ago
@ViggeBs You say 'you don't need wards if ur mates call ss/mia'
What about the enemy jungler? You psychic or what? There's no way of knowing when he's coming without wards..
AzzaHale2k7 2 months ago
@ViggeBs
You're actually saying you don't need wards? omfg LMFAO.
how will you know if they go for dragon/baron?
not to mention jungle ganks?
will you call "ss" for the jungler all the time?
seriously hahahaha xD
MrDascham 2 months ago
@ViggeBs never play this game again until you realize wards win games.
OmegaStarScream1 2 months ago
@ViggeBs
Ure team cant call ss/mia for jungler, can they ? And, what is ure play style then ? U dont kill creeps u extend or what, lawl...
This bro didnt sad anything wrong if ppl just played like this, every game would be better but as u see not everyone agree
Thumbs up for the video tho.
originalnoime 2 months ago
This is just pure shit .. raging improves my gameplay, there's good players and bad players ... not raging failers besides this kid who made this video ..
sodastream88 2 months ago
@sodastream88 This kid is 25 :) There is no reason to rage, you honestly think anyone will play better cause some overhorny kid types crap in the chat? Everytime someone types something besides SS, MIA, Dragon, timers etc you lose concentration. Concentration that could've avoided you dying to a gank, losing those CS, seeing that glimpse of a potential gank on the map etc. You are one of the most important people that should watch this video, thouroughly...
Stoppabell 2 months ago
I think that 200 by 20 is to much, for a average player like myself. I can do it but then I forget everything else, like zoning, map awareness, harassing and so forth. 100 by 20 is for me a achiveable goal as a avarage player.
TrippleTimeBomb 2 months ago
@TrippleTimeBomb Farm beats everything. Espescially if you farm near your tower. Talk to your jungler and have him harass the lane early - that will make your opponent more wary about ganks and losing CS automatically no that most of the time. 80 by 10minutes is a fair goal for an average player that plays AD Carry. 100 by 20minutes is what i would like to call a huge failure.
Just practice, youll see what i mean by farming beats all :)
Stoppabell 2 months ago
@Stoppabell I know last hitting is everything, mostly by watching hige Elo streams like Dyrus, Chaox etc. Depending on the champion I play I can farm better or worse. Like with TF I think I could manage around 80 by 10 min my only problem is to find the mantra when to haras, still practicing! Btw, good video, I follow all the other steppes :>
TrippleTimeBomb 2 months ago
@TrippleTimeBomb Find a balance between farming and then harassing - only harass if you wont lose a CS basically.
Stoppabell 2 months ago
Also remember having fun, even it's competing it's not job at any point ( if you aren't really a pro). Thanks for sharing this!
Dethelem 2 months ago
@Dethelem Having fun is why we play the game. But if you only want fun and don't really care about winning/losing the id suggest for those people to get to normal games or even Dominion.
I'm a competetive person so if i lose i get in a sour mood. When i win, i requeue and want more. :)
Stoppabell 2 months ago
@Stoppabell Yeah I agree, can't add anything on that.
Dethelem 2 months ago
Actually if the enemy have a killingspree its a good idea to trade kills
Hestrup1 2 months ago
@Hestrup1 It is, but prior to going into that trading kills scenario you have to consider "will i get this kill even if i die?" How many times can you honestly say thats gonna happen? Most of the time i skip it since i cant remember what times all lanes have their flashes up etc.
Stoppabell 2 months ago
awesome video i liked the champ pick part, most of the time i always want play solotop irelia/skarner or whateever, and i get f*ckin mad everytime i dont get solotop (somtimes i jungle abit). Lol'd at the twich meme on wards :P that's basically every game i play with my Non-ranked friends they are like: "wards? why do we have to buy wards? and i try to explain them and just dont give a fuck, they overextend and cry when they get ganked. That part with loosing streak and sad mood was great too.
Mactav3 2 months ago
@Mactav3 Thanks mate. Just to prove a point. Last night i played about 6 ranked games, and lost 5. I raged in every one of those games and should've lost all 6.
Today i played 6 games and was on skype with a mate, didnt rage (that much) and won 4 or 5 of them.
Rage just kills the fun, game for EVERYONE.
Stoppabell 2 months ago
Epic guide , if every one in the community would watch this LoL would be a whole different gaming experience. Thanks this goes out to the forums ;D
Omahgawdable 2 months ago
@Omahgawdable Thanks mate, all i can is ask you to help me spread it. :)
Stoppabell 2 months ago
This is awesome and a good guid
chakeson 2 months ago
Nice
SEAwab 2 months ago
" Do NOT trade kills: This is something that happens way to often, WAAAAAY to often. The only time it's somewhat good to trade kills is when your opponent has doublebuff and you are 200% sure he will die. " Or when the enemy is on a killing spree
hangloose1234567890 2 months ago
Detta är grymt, tänker redan mkt på just detta och det går så mkt bättre då!
MrSvisson 2 months ago
@MrSvisson Glad to hear it! :) Spread it!
Stoppabell 2 months ago
I like the minion cartoon can you give us the link for it pls* ^^
CrashT65 2 months ago
I like the minion cartoon can give us the link for it pls?
CrashT65 2 months ago
@CrashT65 Im not too sure where i got it, i just googled Minions i believe :)
Stoppabell 2 months ago
EVERY lol player should see this. I can't count how many times I tell my entire team to ward when they just whine and bitch about how they aren't support, yet still overextend like crazy then whine that they get ganked and killed.
essenceofmex 2 months ago
@essenceofmex Help me spread it out to the community then! :) The more that sees this, the better the gameplay for EVERYONE.
Stoppabell 2 months ago
Why are you elo ~1250? Do you not listen to your own tipps? If you are able to farm 200 at 20min you're clearly not a 1250 player...
schattenskorpion 2 months ago
@schattenskorpion I've never stated i do 200 cs at 20min. It's pointers on how to improve your gameplay. If you listen to what i say in the begining of the video you'll understand.
"this video is made just as much for myself as it is for the entire community."
koffefrolander 2 months ago
Härligt sagt! Det här ska jag ta till mig! :)
MultiPubis 2 months ago
@MultiPubis Good to hear. Spread it so the message get out there so everyone gets atleast abit more cautious when they play. :)
koffefrolander 2 months ago