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  • Great video

  • I wonder what a 172 would be like with a jet.

  • the apt look likes kai tak

  • nice landing

  • ok ok guys, i get it, lol, it is not a simulator *rolls eyes* ...

  • I like how they do the 1000 foot markers in England. Looks cooler than ours. Thanks for not posting a bullshit flightsim video.

  • great 5.5 degree GS, looks scary :)

  • Dived right through the glide slope! All white to all red in under a minute!

  • City approach is very steep

  • COOL, must be fun to land at City?

  • London City Airport?

  • This airport, I have read, has a special pilot rating because it uses a much steeper glideslope than a standard ILS. I think a normal one is 3% grade, and this has a 5%. That doesn't sound to much greater, but it is. They are landing faster and harder than normal.

  • @0Heavy0Metal0

    Interesting, I was wondering about their angle and if they were on the glidepath, but I couldnt really decipher what the PAPI says :D

  • God almighty, I've read some crap on bootube recently, but this takes the cake!

    London City Airport, surrounded by heavy urban sprawl and a lot of tall buildings in the immediate vicinity of the 'strip, plus a lot of clutter in your eyeline on approach - not an ideal situation. It's therefore not rocket science to figure that you need a higher rate of descent on approach to allow you to pass the threshold at the right height and speed; +8 kts and you're off the end, -6 kts, you won't get there!

  • did not think it was a happy landing?

    DO BETTER AND POST THE VIDEO.

  • catrapo

  • I could tell this wasn't a simulator cause it looks crappy XD

  • awesome! but why the hell is there a damn interstate highway directly front of the runway?? Haha who really cares??

  • @theblacksheep1000 Yeah dude, you know this is in London, not in the USA. There is no such thing as an "interstate" nor even a "highway". What you see there on the aaproach is Connaught Bridge, it's the A1020 and it's a local road. There is nothing wrong with roads below the approach. Planes very rarely crash. Cars crash much more frequently on said roads.

  • @ryanhaart I guess you didnt read where I said WHO CARES!!!

  • Pilot recording one hand and land with one hand and help by co-pilot awsome

  • I have so much respect for pilots, this looks impossible  :P

  • That looked like a very high approach

  • @AKaviator90 He landed it didn't he? Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing.

  • @mmanna82 And an excellent landing is one where they can use the plane again lol

  • WE ARE NOW LANDING IN NIGGER TOWN FASTEN YOUR SEAT BELTS

  • I researched London City airport and both ends' PAPI glideslopes are set for 5.5 degree approach. SARAJEVOOOOOOO!!!

  • Hi AF401 Its 9 deg into London city and it looks that steep lol

  • @mocatx it's not 9 it's a 5.5 deg glide path lol

  •  The 5 deg. glideslope approach, nice!

  • nice landing dude...

  • Staple that thing!

  • @uhudmen this is a real flight :)

  • how much was the landing fee

  • Someone said this was a simulator?? LOL!

    

  • i played something like this at Dave and busters :)

  • @dmimcg whatever. Unless you own a jet I don't want to hear it. Go back to flight sim.

  • Well it is a CJ, if it was a Phenom, it would have been a grease job . Better landing gear.

  • its a real flight, no simulator :)

  • @Miruxor =/ lies, thats a simulator with real live and 2100 graphic drivers and processors XD, lol yeah it real live =) though, an awesome sight

  • @harold562 Hi..not all is a simulator! Look my landing with Antonov in Dinslaken (think this is in no programm) I like to fly in real life, I have no flightsimulator :)

  • @Miruxor lol, yeah i know it aint lol, it an awesome sight still, reminds me the why i wanted to go to the airport where i lived at nights and spectate from the roof. sadly us doesnt allow spectators around the airport, so i havent been able to see one at night around here

  • @Miruxor its a joke

  • @harold562 no problem with frames/sec :D

  • @AdamBarabas yeah, and the best part its at max graphics =P

  • @harold562 Definitely not a simulator.

  • @harold562 Why do you think it is a sim? :D

  • @harold562 Clearly this is a real flight... no addon available can provide this level of realism

  • @Miruxor oh, really?

  • Wow, how does he remember all those lines with no peeking?

  • Greased it!

  • hey this isn't an air fighter ahaha

  • Just dump it in, gee, nice landing Stevie wonder.

  • @dmimcg bit harsh. you obviously don't know how challenging the london approach is.

  • @dmimcg Your a Twat

  • that is ONE badAss landing

  • awesome

  • two lights red and two white... right ?

  • Regardless if it was visual or not, aim for the numbers does not give you license to come in like he did. It was still good landing, but too low for my tastes. engsync1 is dead on btw, PAPI's are secondary to ILS approach, and since we didnt see the bugs, we have no idea,

  • This is VFR. PAPIs and the ILS are a nice backup, yet when the runway is in sight and you are cleared for visual approach, you are free to exercise good pilotage. (what a thrilling airport this must be to get into and out of, reminds me of the former Meigs Field here in the US)

  • The best part about these comments is that those who harshly critique aren't even real pilots. MSFS pilots don't count.

  • Why say "harshly critique" what you can just say 'criticise'? (Sorry for the criticism)

  • @WESTECLD true that!!!!

  • @WESTECLD Wrong nitwit. I am a pilot and aircraft owner. The landing sucked and you know it.

  • Holy Crap!!

    When they say, "Aim for the numbers", you don't ask questions!!!

    :)

    Good job, bro!

    Any landing you can walk away from.....

  • Nicely done!

  • this has gotta be london city airport...the airplane is approaching at a 7 degree glideslope angle.

  • 5.5 degrees....still more than the average 3.0!

  • calm down get so upset. I just said in my opinion he came in too low. its not really that big of a deal.

    if you'll calm down ill say it was a perfect approach flown like a space shuttle captain would've done it.

    hope that cheers you up kid. Have a great day and just try to relax.

  • Yup i'm quite upset as you can tell by all my swearing in my last post and the steam coming from my ears. Good observation skills kiddo. Listen son, go find something better to do, hope that cheers you up little tyke.

  • lol....thansk for proving that right.

    like i said it aint that big of a deal.

  • lol, try to relax a bit there, you're contradicting yourself by continually replying. No big deal bud, but if it isn't, why do you keep replying? lol

  • cause its funny watching you get all upset about this.

    the last 300 ft of this approach was way too low. just accept that and move on.

  • lol you're the one who keeps resonding... people who get upset don't usually have "lol" in their reply. Anyway, if you are so sure the last 300 ft of the approach was way to low, why are you wasting your time on youtube, why don't you go out and instruct or make use of your airline transport pilot's license as you seem to know everything.

  • Apparently all you 2000 hour+ instructors out there in youtube land have nothing better to do than critique people on the internet. Good job. I'm sure this guy posted this to be critiqued to hell. Find something better to do.

  • I fully agree. I don't know why these types of videos stir up such controversy.

  • @mmanna82 I know you said this a long time ago, but I just read it. Wanted to say " Well Said." You hit the nail on the head and your reply should be re posted on so many sights here on you tube. I have thousands of hours, have flown over 45yrs, yet, I have so many you tube experts tell me how to fly, etc. Wish I could buy you lunch. Have a great day and ' Peace Be With You.'

  • @CaptainArt777 Thank God there's at least one other person out there with common sense lol. It's amazing how many people get courage behind a screen but in person have no back bone at all. Anyway happy flying and clear skies to you!

  • fail....too low on the approach. I've failed a few people doing their type ride for that very thing.

    dont duck under at the end.......that is how people crash into the trees.

  • Some of us do that because we are often landing on short runways... we can avoid trees with our eyes and judgement.

  • famous last words.

    dont duck under on the approach.

  • I'm no professional but did he seem slightly high right at the beginning of the video?

  • you can't trust the PAPI lights at London City, as I found out on my 3rd Go-around there, I was on a pam-pam-pam call because of low fuel on by 4th attempt.

  • Uh, the PAPIs are red because if you follow them to the ground you'll land 1000 feet behind the threshold. Below 200 feet you usually just ignore them. I can't believe you that any certified pilot would be unable to land without a PAPI indication.

  • you could have a shot a visual approach like I did.

  • Sounds like you need to take a checkride to recertify. Shouldn't take 3 attempts to fly a steeper than normal approach..And I think you mean "pan-pan" chief.

  • way to high

  • lol have you not seen a City approach before? Man they look like they are fucking diving, even if you are in the car or on the plane it's scary...

  • ok i guess the VASI must be fucked up then.....this is why we have accidents kids....its a citation, you only need about 1800 ft to get down and stopped....no reason to drag it in like that.

  • It's a PAPI and there's nothing wrong with it. Yes there is a reason to take it down quicker, London city has a 5.5 degree approach, due to its location.

  • OK I GET IT......but the papi is STILL showing you too low.

    If it's 5.5 degress and you flew it that way then it would show you on the GP.....

    This plane ducked under and that is all im saying.

  • PAPIS are for visual approaches, the pilot may have been making an instrument approach. Hard to believe, but the ILS glide slope and PAPIS do not always bring you into the touch down zone at exactly the same spot, they are more than often not harmonized.

  • @AntC1981 Also if you carry on descending at the rate the PAPIs are telling you to, you will crash into the ground even with flare (due to London City's steep gradient approach). The pilot needs to come in at a lower angle when going over the runway threshold, this shows up as 4 red but is safer as long as the approach is made following PAPIs up until that point.

  • @malmo66

    Really?!?!? You need to change the decent rate? Fuck no!!!!!!!!!!!!! *rolls eyes*!!!!

    With ANY angle of approach, the rate of decsent needs to be changed before landing and before flare!

    By the way, did you know that the sky is blue?

  • @AntC1981 Yes ofcourse I know you need to flare on any approach, sorry if you misunderstood me but why are you being such a prick about it. Its just USUALLY the PAPIs remain 2 red 2 white until you pass them. At LONDON CITY they will be 4 red for longer. Stop acting like you are god's gift to the world. Lol of course you flare, I mean that before you flare the pilot needs to lessen the approach angle at London City

  • @malmo66 Yeah and everyone knows the descent rate/angle of approach needs to be lessened. At ANY airport, not just London City. Even so, you're stating the obvious to me and I've no idea why.

    Did you know that grass is green?

  • @AntC1981 I am not stating the obvious. I am saying that the changing of approach gradient is different at London City to other airports. It is not just the traditional flare. If you don't understand then just leave it.

    Did you know that there are differences in approach? Clearly not... *sigh*

  • @malmo66 I know the differences. You're stating the obvious.

    Go back to spotting.

  • @AntC1981 You don't know this one. I don't spot...

  • beergut111 -

    Do you use that kind of language when you give checkrides? I hope I never have you as a TCE down at FSI (or wherever you teach). For a 35+ year aviator, you should know better.

  • i only use that language when im talking to kiddies.

    you would love to have me as your cheack airman. If you have your shit together and are professional, yo would come out of the box feeling great.

  • Well, that remains to be seen....

    You don't talk like a 35+ year aviator, as you advertise. You speak more like a kiddy yourself. Even your name "beergut" is indicative of a younger generation. I don't know any baby boomers who use those types of expressions.

    Thats okay - youtube (and the internet in general) is a wonderful utopia of a place where you can be anything you want to be.

  • He is not even close to being dangerously low. Heck, he's 30 ft high over the threshhold, pretty standard on a visual, and still lands 700ft down, plenty safe. Seems like a well flown approach to me!!

  • Too Low Approach Use The PAPI, ok landing at the end though. 3/5

  • wow... its london city man i wann see you do it...

  • It was a very good landing as London city has a very steep glideslope

  • What airport is this?

  • London City (EGLC/LCY)

  • tks.

  • lol...kinda ducked under that one a bit at the end eh?......

  • Its got a very steep glideslope

  • yeah?....they were too low at the end. You can see them dive under the glidepath quite a bit...its only a citation, thats a good way to hit something other than the runway. lesson? dont deviate from the glidepath.

  • He toutched down on the TOUCHDOWN zone.

    The PAPI - Precision approach path indicator- depend on eye to wheel height, and the E2W height of the citation is a low figure, this making the "glidepath indicators" - as u reffered to them- indicate low.

    P.S: The touchdown zone is 1000ft from the start of the usable landing surface of the runway.

    It was a normal landing. not too low.

  • ive been flying for 35 years....i know what all tht is.

    just saying it looks like he ducked in at the end. dont take it so personal.

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  • f15, sr71 in air force. dc9, dc10, 747, citation 550/560. citation x, falcon 20, falcon 2000

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  • eglin and seymore

  • full of shit

  • When flying into london, they don't have a regular 3degree approach like most other airports. For noise abatement procedures, it is a greater value. It is 6 or so degrees if I remember well.

  • Yeah its something like 5.5

  • Red Papis, nice.

  • I think you'll find that London City Airport requires a slightly higher approach angle (5 degrees I believe, as opposed the the standard 3 degrees). This is due the obstacles on the approach path. The auther of this video is better placed to comment. Cool vid though.

    Anyone know anything about the author?

  • nice blanding but on the final u looked pretty high

  • It may be "Runway width illusion." A narrower- than-usual runway can create the illusion that the aircraft is at a higher altitude than it actually is.

  • brilliant landing! great approach

  • Jeez! without looking yet, below at other comments, my first thought is, Holy Crap! that's some Steep Glidepath on this one. I'm sure it's warranted due to Obstructions, etc..

    but from the first few seconds of the video, i expect to see a PAPI, Screaming "Three RED"

    in that case, the nose comes up, and Go around Thrust is added, gear up, announce to Tower, "goin' 'round folks" Lol

  • Haha yeah it looks like London City Airport which has a steep approach as its right by Canary Wharf, Millenium Dome etc

  • netjets europe ?

  • nice landing sir. May I ask how tough is it to keep the nose on the center line? Are you busy on the pedals?

  • that reply was for thinkpad247, and brilliant landing!

  • very nice approach and touch down :)

  • such a thrilling approach at this airfield due to it's location and approach gradient.

  • thanks for your comment :)

  • Steep approach is the norm at London City due to it's surroundings. The descent angle is 5.5 degrees vs. a normal approach angle of 3 deg. Only certain aircraft are allowed to use this airport and only after the manufacturers demonstrate steep approaches.

  • thinkpad 247 is a hunk of shit

  • I AGREE thinpad247 is hunk of cow crap!

  • Someone knows where I can download a citation to fly it in fs2004?

  • high is better than low

  • Nice video mate how many hours?

  • very high approach dont you think?

  • That's London city airport, in the very heart of London. Heathrow is a few miles west on London. Nice video though!!

  • thank you :) my friend made this video and said London lol

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