Who is the best heavyweight boxer of all time?

[rydeoride]

@Somerled222 Oh btw theres a reason why klitcko fans are obsessed.. do you see ali fans on klitcko videos?

[Somerled222]

Ga..y..e..s...t... Video EVER! lol. Klitschkos would beat these idiots just like they beat EVERY challenger that comes their way.....there isn't a single challenge out there for them....and we live in a world of beefed up steroid using blacks in the ring....doesn't matter....NEXT!!!

[dirtbagwhitetrash]

Ali beat the most hall of famers nuff said. Louis number two. The Klitschko's have no competition plus they are boring to watch.

[artiomstakhov]

Guys, Muhammad Ali, Tyson and other boxers of that time would be tooooooo small for the boxers like Lennox and the Klitschkos. OK, Muhammad would try to dance around Lewis, so what? Slightly slower Lewis would still sooner or later land his right hand and it would be a KO. How many times has Ali been knocked down? Many times, from the weaker fighters. Lewis beat Tyson soooo easy, it was unbelievable, in his prime Tyson would probably survive an extra round...

[rydeoride]

@artiomstakhov I am amazing of the lack of knowlede you have, do just alittle research pleasee. 1st of all, have you seen a prime Ali? 210pounds+ which HW can move like Ali? Ali was knocked down 3 times against genuine tough fighters like Frazier, Cooper, Banks. Didnt fight in a joke era like this.. Klitchkos oh dear! Biggest sack of shits ive seen. 45 year Foreman won the title in this HW era and got beat by a 33 year old Ali in his prime. Im not gonna touch your last quote.

[ayresy89]

JOE LOUIS *1

[MrLukedanger]

hahaha klitschkos number 1 or 2? hahahah they couldnt even knock out 42 year old shannon briggs hahaha

[Somerled222]

Nobody from the past would have lasted 10 rounds with either Klitschko brother....maybe Muhammad Ali only because he could duck and dodge...but they would have man handled him eventually in a corner and he is just wayyyyy too small to last in the ring with them.

[JAEKIM10]

1. Muhammad Ali

2. Joe Louis

3. MIke Tyson

4. Larry Holmes

5. Rocky Marciano

6. Lennox Lewis

7. Evander Holyfield

8. Joe Frazier

9. George Foreman

10. Jack Dempsey

[grendel66]

1= Tyson, 2= Ali, 3= Louis, 4= Holmes, 5= Foreman, 6= Lewis, 7= Marciano, 8= Frazier, 9= Johnson, 10= Dempsey

[CoronaJoe]

Tyson #1???? Based on what exactly? His big win over Pinklon Thomas?? lol...

[thejohnboyglasgow]

black bastards lol well done see your kids in harverd lol xxxx

[vaskarusky91]

1.Muhammad Ali/Wladimir Klitschko/Vitali Klitschko 2.Mike Tyson 2.Larry Holmes 4.Joe Louis 5.Jack Johnson 6.Rocky Marciano 7.Evander Holyfield 8.Jack Johnson 9.Joe frazier 10.George Foreman Some decent Heavyweights would not make the top 10, but they are still honurable to mention: They are: Chris Byrd, Sonny Liston, Ken Norton,Michael spinks, Riddick bowe, Lennox lewis, Ray Mercer!

[CoronaJoe]

Having the Klitschkos at #1 is ALMOST as laughable as having Mike @ #2.

Johnson was a great fighter, but I don't think he was quite good enough to take 2 spots on the list!...lmao...

[vaskarusky91]

@CoronaJoe What ever you think.

[zh1992]

1. Ali 2.Louis 3.Foreman 4.Lewis 5.Holmes 6.Fraizer 7.Marciano 8.Liston 9.Patterson 10.Johnson

[KLChammerthrow]

seriosly why is marciano never on peaople #1 or #2 cmon 49 wins 0 losses 43 ko's ali wouldnt stand a chance

[CoronaJoe]

...because of the opponents he built that record against. ALL old shot greats or lightheavys. Everyone ranking all time greats knows that limited short armed slugger Rocky wouldn't have had that record in ANY era since his. He came along at the right time. If he came along in the 70's, you wouldn't even know his name, as he wouldn't have even earned a shot. Any great in the top 10 would have retired undefeated if they met his opposition, or made as few defenses.

I have him @ 9 all time.

[InnocenceExperience]

PassOnTheTruth has Jack Johnson twice in his list.

[stonee1717]

1. Ali 2. Holmes 3. Lewis 4. Louis 5. Foreman

[mreman2]

1. Ali/Holmes 3. tyson 4 louis. 5.L. Lewis. I'll stop here. I don't see any fight before 1960 being on the list except Louis. Marciano was just too small to compete with these guys. As we get further and further in the future, people will begin to give Holmes his due as maybe the best HW ever.

[iljn1988]

@mreman2, not sure how Holmes can be on an equal footing with Ali. He never unified the title, was the first Heavyweight champion to lose his title to a Light-Heavyweight moving up, and while he beat some good names I don't think his level of opposition can compare to Ali's, Johnson's or Jeffries'. Top five in my mind, but a clear way off the top spot. As for Tyson, he seriously wouldn't even make my top ten. Not sure how he can be number three, no matter how you measure them.

[messier991102]

lol how can anyone have tyson before frazier or foreman. joke

[messier991102]

1. ali 2. louis 3. foreman 4. frazier 5. holmes 6. liston 7. tyson 8. marciano 9. holyfield 10. lewis

[xxxJasonVoorheesxxx]

Ali

[tatengue107]

mike tyson the best

[MrJerryw08]

Larry Holmes would have beaten Ali at any time and Joe Louis would have killed him. And if you actually new the sport you would understand a young Jerry Quarry would have ripped Tyson and Holyfield apart. You have Frazer in front of Foreman who knocked him out twice and Chris Byrd can't beat me. The two best are Louis and Holmes but the real disaster is this sport is the alcohol abuse by Quarry, who, if he was sober , could have made the top 5.

[bigjon1344]

@MrJerryw08 Holmes beats Ali??? I beg to differ sir- It would have been a good fight had they met in their primes-Ali 66' Holmes 79'......Holmes never wouldve laid a glove on him. IMO........Louis damn near got beat by Conn, a LH- and Schmeling knocked Louis the fuck out!!!! I would put Holmes 2nd....Ali first- I agree Quarry was tough as nails- Foreman wouldnt fight him when he was coming up- And your right-Byrd cant beat you!!! Lol

[LS1able]

prime 4 prime this is about boxing skill not records 1 tyson 2 ali 3 n 4Klitschko brothers 5 Evander Holyfield 6 Joe Frazier 7lennox lewis 8 larry holmes 9 rocky 10 joe lewis

[1899sharkey]

@LS1able -Do you know how to tell if someone knows anything about boxing? Answer... if they know how to spell Joe Louis. Yours is the worst list i've ever seen. Tyson no.1? that is hilarious.

[iljn1988]

@LS1able, that's a poor, poor list as far as I'm concerned. Tyson belongs absolutely nowhere near the top spot, even if you're using the daft notion of ranking them 'prime for prime.' In their primes, Johnson, Dempsey, Louis, Ali, Foreman and Lewis were just as dominant as Tyson, and against better opposition. And if we go on whole career, then Tyson isn't even top ten. The Klitschkos at number 4? Comical. If you ever bother to learn about boxing, then you'll laugh at that list one day.

[Cappacino1000]

silly question. Ali by a mile

[kayakbruce1]

@Cappacino1000 I agree. Me, I'm a big man. I gotta glass jaw like cheap carnival glass.Ali took some shots that would have knocked me out for a week.

[misscamote]

JACK DEMPSEY IS DA BEST!!!!...A SMALL MAN IN THE HEAVY WEIGHTS!!!AGREE??

[1899sharkey]

@misscamote - I agree. Ray Arcel thought so too.

[1899sharkey]

1.Dempsey 2. Johnson 3. Louis 4. Ali 5. Tunney 6. Jeffries 7.Marciano 8. Foreman 9. Liston 10. Frazier 11. Holmes 12. Lewis

[TkastoM]

its hard decision but for me: 1. Rocky Marciano 2. Casius Clay ( Muhammad Ali) 3. Klitschko brothers 4. Joe Louis 5. Lennox Lewis 6. Mike Tyson 7. George Foreman 8. Riddick Bowe 9. George Foreman 10. Sonny Liston

[iljn1988]

1) Muhammad Ali 2) Joe Louis 3) Jack Johnson 4) Larry Holmes 5) Lennox Lewis 6) George Foreman 7) Jim Jeffries 8) Jack Dempsey 9) Rocky Marciano 10) Sonny Liston 11) Evander Holyfield 12) Joe Frazier 13) Mike Tyson 14) Gene Tunney 15) Ezzard Charles 16) Harry Wills 17) Sam Langford 18) Jersey Joe Walcott 19) Tommy Burns 20) Jim Corbett is how I see the top 20. Near misses would be Schmeling, the Klitschkos, Fitzsimmons, Sharkey, Patterson, Bowe, Norton, Terrell and Baer.

[1899sharkey]

@iljn1988 - Nice to see someone giving Tommy Burns some respect. Btw, are you refering to Jack Sharkey or Tom.

[iljn1988]

@1899sharkey, thanks, I think Burns gets a rough ride and is probably one of the more underrated early Heavyweight champions. For a 5'7" fighter to hold his own against such big Heavyweights, defeat men such as Flynn, O'Brien and Hart and make 11 successful defences is impressive. I was referring to Jack Sharkey, who is also underrated and for me should have been the best of the 'post Tunney, pre Louis' champs. Although Tom was one of the best Heavies not to win the title, as I'm sure you know.

[SOUPRUN01]

1. Ali

2. Cassius Clay

3. Tyson

4. Lennox Lewis.

5. George Foreman

6. Joe Lewis

7.  Jack Dempsey

8. Rocky Marciano

9. Evander Holyfield

10. Elvis

[apestaartje321]

1. Ali

2. Joe Louis

3. Larry Holmes

4. Lennox Lewis

5. Evander Holyfield

6. George Foreman

7. Mike Tyson

8. Joe Frazier

9. Sonny Liston

10. Jack Dempsey

[JonesMOBGang]

Mike tyson

[28rampage]

1ali,2 joe louis,3 tyson,4 foreman,5 lewis,6 holmes,7 holyfield,8 frazier,9 liston,

10 marciano....

[farrell360]

@28rampage I agree but I would switch Tyson and Foreman

[28rampage]

@farrell360 yeah foreman has a better cv than tyson but i rate tyson so highly bcos of what he acheived in such a short space of time, even though the fighters tyson beat on the way to his titles weren't exactly elite competiton the manner in which he dispatched them could never be repeated..

[TheFurkan1987]

1)lennox lewis

2)joe louis

3)foreman

[ManlnCognito]

Absolutely no doubt...MUHAMMAD ALI. by a mile.

Followed by Lennox Lewis Larry Holmes George Foreman and Joe Frazier

Any list that has Mike Tyson in the top five can be discounted immediately

[stefanoBN]

1. Joe Louis

2. Mohammed Alì

3. Jack Dempsey

4. Rocky Marciano

5. George Foreman

6. Mike Tyson

7. Sonny Liston

8. Joe Frazier

9. Larry Holmes

10. Lennox Lewis

[1badanglo]

and 11. liston

[1badanglo]

1. ali

2. joe louis

3. mike tyosn

4. larry holmes

5. george foreman

6. joe frazier

7. ken norton

8. marciano

9. lennox lewis

10. the klitschos/ holyfield

[navysealtm12]

@1badanglo

Ali ? #1 ?

Nope.

[TommyGun7111]

@navysealtm12

I actually think that makes sense since it's either Ali or Louis at #1.

[navysealtm12]

@TommyGun7111

naaaaaa.

Sugar Ray Robinson best P4P of all time. He's at #1, undoubtedly. everything else is subject to opinion.

[TommyGun7111]

@navysealtm12

lol dude we're talking heavyweights.. of course srr is PRP #1, but for heavyweights, he doesn't even rank.

[PassOnTheTruth]

8. is actually Sonny Liston!

[JAEKIM10]

@PassOnTheTruth the klitschkos should be lucky to be number 10 so how the fuck are they tied for #1? what did they do that nearly matches Ali's accomplishments?

[Somerled222]

@JAEKIM10 what did they do???? LOL. You obviously don't watch boxing....they would have KILLED little muhammad. lol

[rydeoride]

@Somerled222 Fuck off and watch hockey, you dont know shit about boxing

[Somerled222]

@rydeoride Hahaha!!!! Love it when blacks can't stand the fact that whites are KILLING them in the big boys ring! and I won't even start about a certain little man that's scared of Manny and won't fight him. Ali would have gotten BEATEN hardcore!!!....and you know it....so cry your self to sleep on your jerrycurl covered pillow!

[PassOnTheTruth]

1.Muhammad Ali/Wladimir Klitschko/Vitali Klitschko 2.Mike Tyson 2.Larry Holmes 4.Joe Louis 5.Jack Johnson 6.Rocky Marciano 7.Evander Holyfield 8.Jack Johnson 9.Joe frazier 10.George Foreman Some decent Heavyweights would not make the top 10, but they are still honurable to mention: They are: Chris Byrd, Sonny Liston, Ken Norton,Michael spinks, Riddick bowe, Lennox lewis, Ray Mercer!

[jazbb]

@PassOnTheTruth Why do you have johnson in twice????

[WOLVOMAN80]

wheres jack dempsey?

[PassOnTheTruth]

Dempsey was champ while he ducked African fighters! Most African fighters did not get opportunities back then so Dempsey should not be rated!

[navysealtm12]

@PassOnTheTruth

Horrible.

[thisbeshane]

@PassOnTheTruth thats a very good list but the kiltschkos at no 1? really? i dont think they could go the distance with ali in his day and they rated over frazier? i think liston and bowe deserved to be mention before them. i mean, bowe did beat a guy on your top 10 twice and lennox did beat vitali. i mean if you love the klits bros you can argue them in 9+10 maybe but to rate them high as ali is a bit over-crediting

[TommyGun7111]

@PassOnTheTruth

wait.....

You're really going to rank the klits at the top?

No way.

Sorry, they just don't rank that high.

[TommyGun7111]

@PassOnTheTruth

imo the klits would lose to every other heavyweight on that list so they don't belong

[vintagevic1]

@PassOnTheTruth I think youre talking about style here & so I would have to aggree with you on your rating. Outisede of style, you have the actual truth: Marciano was the best of all time.

[CoronaJoe]

The best record, against the weakest opposition. Rocky barely makes top 10 (I have him 9th) when considering everything (record etc), but if you base a top 10 list only on who would have actually beaten whom, Rocky is not top 10 at all.

[Ostrasize]

@PassOnTheTruth LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WLAD AND VITALI # 1? ARE YOU ON FUCKING CRACK?!?!??!

[Yerots31]

@PassOnTheTruth Three figters at 1, Jack Johnson in at 5 and then in at 8 !!! Good list...

[ragingbull191]

@PassOnTheTruth your list is a joke: the Klitschko's at number 1? LMFAO...Jack Johnson is mentioned twice; you have names like Byrd, Spinks, Bowe, and Mercer over Dempsey and Patterson? you're clearly stuck in the 90's

[bigjon1344]

@PassOnTheTruth The Klitscho???? You have to be kidding me right??? ONE HAS NO CHIN AND THE OTHER IS TOUGH BUT BORING!!!!!! Tyson is a top 10 at best- I do like you putting Holmes so high-And Foreman should be over Frazier....

[tatengue107]

@PassOnTheTruth you are a fucking noob, stupid

[bertmarx]

@PassOnTheTruth whiteboys cant fight.. fuck outta here lmao 

[messier991102]

@PassOnTheTruth wtf klitschkos are as good as ali lmfao. tyson 2, wow u dont know what you are talking about

[Somerled222]

@messier991102 Klitschkos would have beaten Ali and put him into a wheelchair the next day!

[messier991102]

@Somerled222 lol, they put him in a wheelchair but cant finish off briggs, get knocked out by brewster and vitali lost to an old ass lennox lewis.

[Somerled222]

@messier991102 Ohhhhh ok,....let me know when someone beats one of them....I'll check back in 10 years to have another laugh.

[rydeoride]

@Somerled222 you are hilarious, i can name 20 fighters Ali fought whod kill klichko.. n yham serious

[Somerled222]

@rydeoride pleeeezzzeeee....hahaha, bunch of 180 lb patsies from the 1970's? Keep dreaming....they were all wayyyy too little (like Ali).

[Somerled222]

@messier991102 Lewis was in his prime (and was losing....saved by the mafia paid refs over a cut that wasn't bothering him....only to be stopped in the round when Lewis obviously couldn't even get off the stool and didn't know where he was)....Briggs ran away for the whole fight....and one of them gets hit by a lucky punch...big deal. Anyways,....Lewis retired after bragging how he would rematch because he was losing on all judges score cards....but went into hiding.

[Somerled222]

@messier991102 bottom line....nobody can beat them in a world where athletes are bigger faster and stronger than the 70's....just look at any sport to figure that out genius. lol

[rydeoride]

@Somerled222 So your boasting that a bigger fighter is a better fighter.. really? How old are you? Ali was 6'3 and 210lb+ thats not little, not to mention a proper fighters physique.. How often do you jack off to the faggot brothers? Stop repeating yourself and stop this obsession with the Greatest. Dumbass kid

[rydeoride]

@Somerled222 Nobody can beat them, A Lewis near his 40s is not his prime and stop bullshiting so much you cocksucker.. Cuts are part of boxing and if above the eye obviously effect the vision so Lewis wins dumb fuck. You dont know shit, its his doctor that stops it no1 else (how much times do you need correcting you stupid child). As for shitty Wladimer who got pounded by Sanders, Im not gona even bother with that fuckturd.

[Somerled222]

@rydeoride You're an idiot....it wasn't his doctor numbnutz....lol. Ali was a skinny joke compared to them....he would have been crushed fool! Nobody besides a few ghetto rats like yourself honestly believes that he would have stood a snowballs chance in hell....you are so G..a..y!!!! Ali would have been running his big fat lips when.....POW...lights out. Ali fought a bunch of out of shape nobodys that weighed under 190 lbs. 6'3" 180 lbs vs 6'7" 245 lbs.... lol. Keep dreaming!

[messier991102]

@Somerled222 ali fought a bunch of out of shape nobodies? is joe frazier out of shape. no he fights at the pace of a middleweight for 15 rounds. modern fighters wouldnt be able to deal with fraziers pace, all of them would be huffinfg and puffing by round 4. is norton out of shape? he also could fight for 15 rounds, and had a better physique than anybody today. ali never fought top contenders who were out of shape, they all had more stamina and threw more punches than modern fighters.

[messier991102]

@Somerled222 the only time ali was 180lbs was in the olympics. he may be shorter but has a longer reach, is much faster, throws better combos, his a better chin, and his stamina is 10x better. vit quit on his stool because of a shoulder injury. what a pussy, ali fought 12 rounds with norton after ken broke his jaw.

[messier991102]

@Somerled222 if all atheletes have gotten superior than modern baseball players should destroy the old timers right? meanwhile the only player who passed mayes cheated. mantle still has the records for th longest homeruns, henderson stole the most bases ever, ryan has the most cy youngs ever. but the bats are better now, parks are smaller,mounds are lower. the modern players have all the advantages meanwhile the stats are the same 

[rydeoride]

@Somerled222 You seriously talk outa ya ass, Ali fought in the golden age of boxing whereas klitchkos are dominating the weakest heavyweight division in history. They dont make em like they did back then but according to you bigger is better.. you are an arrogant fool. You are obviously not a boxing fan nor have you ever boxed, the whole world knows the heavyweight greats and the klitchkos are not even close to qualifying. Id say more but it wont get into your swollen head..

[Somerled222]

@rydeoride Keep dreaming....it's funny how I can tell you're black...and racist! I'm not racist at all....but love listening to fools like you think and fool themselves into thinking that Ali or any of those old has-beens could stand toe to toe with either Klitschko....just hilarious! The only one that maybe could have had a prayer was George Foreman....but the others...HELL NO! Not Ali, not Marciano, not J.Lewis....they all would have been killed in the ring.

[rydeoride]

@Somerled222 That is the 2nd time youv called me black and a racist.. I mean get your fuckin thumb out, this isnt about colour. Btw you should never watch boxing again and I aint gonna bother wasting any energy on a plonker like you

[Somerled222]

@rydeoride Oh that's right .... black people can't be racist...because of slavery 300 years ago...lol. Just deal with the facts...Klitschkos are unbeatable....and better than Ali ever was...not as fast as Ali...but one hit and "night night Muhamad" Just look at the huge dudes that thought they could stand toe to toe with them....all ended up on their backs.

[Somerled222]

@rydeoride It's not about race...I could care less "Holyfield" was my favorite and I would root for him against Klitschkos...but he's retired and I know he would end up unconscious anyways.

[messier991102]

@Somerled222 really boxers are bigger, aside from the klits and valuev they are around 6'3" and they are heavier but thats because they are fat and out of shape. and stronger, just because they are physically stronger doesnt mean they hit harder, foreman and liston hit a hell of a lot harder than the clits. if boxers are more superior how come they are fatter,slower, they dont figth for as many rounds, and rarely throw alot of punches.

[bigmoney749]

@PassOnTheTruth Garbage list

[bigmoney749]

1. Lennox Lewis

2. Muhammad Ali

3. Larry Holmes

4. Joe Louis

5. George Foreman

6. Vitali Klitschko

7. Joe Frazier

8. Evander Holyfield

9. Mike Tyson

10. Wladamir Klitschko

[Somerled222]

@bigmoney749 Lewis #1? Lmao! Klitschko was KILLING him when the ref stopped the fight from a cut....and Lewis hid like a little girl and wouldn't rematch to show how Klitschko would have finished him off. Lewis could barely stand that last round and looked like he wanted to run and hide under the ring! You should try watching boxing sometime and see for yourself....they can't even find anyone to give them a challenge....the others on your list always had close fights.

[WOLVOMAN80]

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