besides if all these religions believe what the bible says... it does says mans last moments on earth is the jews rebuilding a temple on the temple mound and ther whole world implodes or some crap like that.. so all religions should support the jews not being there i guess.. tis the devils work hehe
It is all england and frances fault in the first place.. and jews already were living in the area amoungst the muslim's quite peacefully until the brittish and french made it there decision to draw borders and split up all the goodies :)
How do you have an agreement with a country that never lives up to their agreements? Israel is a paranoid psychopathic country and will never experience peace. They need to leave the Middle East and leave the Palestinian people alone as well as Iran and Lebanon.
They have not shown honor or integrity, just a lot of self-absorption and narcissism. They are a threat to the whole world and the creators of terrorism.
it's funny to hear americans discussing what international law has to say about the territories. if americans had any respect to international law, they'd be removing so many people from their homes in the south and giving all of it back to the mexicans, right now.
and let's not even start mentioning the native american matter, which was a genocide according to any definition there is.
midnight, maybe it's because the entire world is anti Israel and rightly so. The Zionist agenda has failed miserably, not in it's occupation, but in it's moral imperative.
Charlie, thanks for the comment at 1:55. And to Encompassed Runner...Sir, why is it, the minute someone begins to discuss Israel v. Palestine, they are vilified as anti-Isreal? Can't we have a serious discussion about what might be the single most critical issue re: peace in the middle east without the anti-semite or anti-Israel labels?
midnightebellion01, your question is based on an overgeneralized, unfair presupposition that vilification for being anti-Israel comes forth "the minute someone begins to discuss Israel v. Palestine," when in my case I even offered the reason for my vilification, repeated here for your convenience: Mitchell's way of framing the issue. From the get-go, Mitchell has staked out an anti-Israel starting point.
Sir, with due respect, i think the overgeneralized and unfair comment comes from you. Senator Mitchell is merely stating fact. And one can see he is careful in his choice of words - annexation vs. taking/stealing/robbing - had he chose one of the latter, then i would concur with your point. Thus, i don't see an anti-Israel view. Sadly, any even-keeled attempt to discuss Israel v. Palestine appears to be futile.
@EncompassedRunner, you sound like Ben Stein, dude! Your counter productive to a positive discussion on this issue. Stay away with your belligerence!.
untomatchi, I'm unfamiliar with what Ben Stein has to say on the matter, but am just absolutely flabbergasted at Mitchell's animus--I knew he was anti-Israel, but did not realize it was to this extent that he would create such a false impression about the status of Jerusalem.
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The US will not be an effective mediator in the peace process if Mitchell is involved because he is not seen as an honest broker. He is too anti-Israel.
marzutall, I can't help but wonder what influence Mitchell's Lebanese background has, because his hostility is so obvious. For ex, here instead of talking about the actual claims to Jerusalem, he talks about the reaction of others without discussing the claims themselves. That's as intellectually dishonest as arguing that the Earth is the center of our solar system b/c everyone else says so, instead of actually looking at the facts.
@EncompassedRunner Actually, I found he was rather defensive of Israel's perspective, despite the unanimous international dissent of the legality of their annexation of Jerusalem. The Palestinians deserve a state. So do the Israelis. The area has been under so many different regimes, and each only for short periods of time ruled by their own ethnicities or cultures, that at this point they need to decide on boundaries and respect them, leaving the past in the past. *continued
@EncompassedRunner With both Palestinians and Israelis so rightfully passionate about their histories and the land that they both consider rightfully theirs, I doubt that it can ever be settled as such realistically. It would require swallowing too much anger and too much pride. And going back to your earlier claims that Mitchell is not an effective peacemaker, please look at your history. Mitchell ended decades of violence in Northern Ireland in negotiations at the request of England & Ireland.
you sir have done nothing in the past year ! you should get the boot! havent we heard the presedinet ??he cleary said ISRAEL HAS TO STOP THE SETTELINTS!! PERIOD!
Obama is not the boss of Israel, if Netanyahu offers a temporary freeze to any residences, it is not out of obligation, but once again, an unmerited unilateral good faith measure by Israel to demonstrate desire for peace talks now.
obama is the boss of netanyahu and israel....you think israel could be where its at with out america????those arabs would eat israel in 3 days......if israel wants our help..money...techno;gy..they have to listin to the president!!! period !!!
kess, Israel would be much better off without the anti-Israel "2-state solution" being the only plan on the table, thanks to the Bush administration & now Bush III (Obama) ...so no, I don't "think Israel could be where its at without America"...reminder: 1948, 1967, 1973, 1976 (Entebbe)...& oh yeah, 1447 B.C., Egypt
sir we have stuck our necks out for israel for the past 60 years..you think about that when you say 1948 1967 1973 1976.if israel dose not want america's help they should give back those f-16E they have which they want to use to bomb iran with.with out our help israel would be dust in the pages of history..those arabs have been sharping there knifes for the past 60 years.they would eat you alive right now look israel cant even fight 3,000 hezbollah fighters..thats besides the the billions in AID
You have no understanding of the dynamics of the situation. Israel is the one that gives America technology. In addition, Israel has a thriving economy, while the US economy is in crisis.
sir i have a great understanding please do not use passive insaults,iam fully aware of the situation and i can say this israel will lose half of its army if we cut the aid....i give it 3 days till syria would go take gholan back...israel is in no position to make demands if israel thinks they can do it then they will wake up one day to war and this time no one is gona rsh them arams....israel cant pay for its own way yet...thats a fact....FACE IT SIR
The Israeli economy is one of the stongest and fastest-growing in the world, while the US economy shrank for the past several quarters. And I don't seem to remember Israel making any demands of the US. The sad part of this is that most Americans are basically pro-Israel, it is only muslim immigrants like you and Barack Obama who hate Israel.
we are still THE STRONGEST NATION IN THE WORLD and we WE WILL REBUILD!if any one is counting on us to fail they will have to wait a long long time. i guess you cant understand the american ppls frustrations about a issue that has been going on for so long and its costing us our secuirty...presidint obama is our leader even if the ppl of israel like it or not picked by the ppl for the AMERICAN PPL not to please any one else.and my parents were immigrants IAM AMERICAN
If America were as powerful as you claim it is, it would be able to prevent Iran from building nuclear weapons. So maybe America is not that powerful, or the president does not have the will power to do his job.
if you havent noticed sir dimona has not been checked by any one since it was made by the french....iranian nuclear plans date back to the shah times the balnce of power in our eyes was never reached.....we will make a deal with iran i promiss you this sir and if israel trys to go ahead befor that i can see alot of f-15 and f-16 coming down in iraq.......remmber we run this.not israel..we dont need israel we have egypt jordan turkey saudia arabia all the gulf iraq...WAKE UP SIR THE 60S ARE OVER
The US has never expressed any objections to Israel's nuclear program, given that Israel is an ally of the US. And if Obama uses the US military against Israel, the American people would rise up and topple his regime. I think even the Saudis and the Egyptians would be on the side of Israel.
military advisers to the president have told him this.this is not my opinion.they told presedint bush the same thing...and then you say america would rise aginst the goverment?lol sir please stop the jokes..we had bush steal the presedentcy we didnt do shit,,,when was the last time we took to the streets and burnd it down for israel?BY THE WAY we have asked israel to open DIMONA this gose back to nixon.please understand friends part ways all the time...and you think the arabs would help??
by the way i do not know george Mitchell,i do not speak for the white house ,if you cant see america as a whole is saying enough is enough then you sir are an idiot, we will speak as one when it comes down to our national interest....AMERICA comes FIRST
True, but the US doesn't have to give billions of dollars every year to Israel while it keeps building settlements. The Israelis need to choose between their right wing nuts and US friendship, because they can't have both. Ditto for the Palestinians.
your comment shows israel dose not want peace....let me ask you this sir is the gholan is israel as well???how about the shaba farms???and iam glad that mitchell came out and said it...if israel dosent get its act right we will not give them aid.....you dont have to take our money......friends part ways all the time.
I agree. Religious freedom and freedom of speech are more important than money. Complete equality for women is more important than money. Wouldn't you agree?
besides if all these religions believe what the bible says... it does says mans last moments on earth is the jews rebuilding a temple on the temple mound and ther whole world implodes or some crap like that.. so all religions should support the jews not being there i guess.. tis the devils work hehe
ThePlantDoctor 2 years ago
It is all england and frances fault in the first place.. and jews already were living in the area amoungst the muslim's quite peacefully until the brittish and french made it there decision to draw borders and split up all the goodies :)
ThePlantDoctor 2 years ago
How do you have an agreement with a country that never lives up to their agreements? Israel is a paranoid psychopathic country and will never experience peace. They need to leave the Middle East and leave the Palestinian people alone as well as Iran and Lebanon.
They have not shown honor or integrity, just a lot of self-absorption and narcissism. They are a threat to the whole world and the creators of terrorism.
connielane 2 years ago
nation of thizzlam
ashurbannipal 2 years ago
nuke israel
hcwcars1 2 years ago
He has a very hard job.
mrmaciejm 2 years ago 2
BSD
It's questionable how many millions of slain Indians
Referred to Washington as their capital.
defiantass 2 years ago
it's funny to hear americans discussing what international law has to say about the territories. if americans had any respect to international law, they'd be removing so many people from their homes in the south and giving all of it back to the mexicans, right now.
and let's not even start mentioning the native american matter, which was a genocide according to any definition there is.
wallalot 2 years ago
its like getting fucked in the ass after some time it fells good
hcwcars1 2 years ago
land stealing
mothersfuckers
jews
hcwcars1 2 years ago
midnight, maybe it's because the entire world is anti Israel and rightly so. The Zionist agenda has failed miserably, not in it's occupation, but in it's moral imperative.
attnMoFo 2 years ago
Charlie, thanks for the comment at 1:55. And to Encompassed Runner...Sir, why is it, the minute someone begins to discuss Israel v. Palestine, they are vilified as anti-Isreal? Can't we have a serious discussion about what might be the single most critical issue re: peace in the middle east without the anti-semite or anti-Israel labels?
midnightrebellion01 2 years ago 4
midnightebellion01, your question is based on an overgeneralized, unfair presupposition that vilification for being anti-Israel comes forth "the minute someone begins to discuss Israel v. Palestine," when in my case I even offered the reason for my vilification, repeated here for your convenience: Mitchell's way of framing the issue. From the get-go, Mitchell has staked out an anti-Israel starting point.
EncompassedRunner 2 years ago
Sir, with due respect, i think the overgeneralized and unfair comment comes from you. Senator Mitchell is merely stating fact. And one can see he is careful in his choice of words - annexation vs. taking/stealing/robbing - had he chose one of the latter, then i would concur with your point. Thus, i don't see an anti-Israel view. Sadly, any even-keeled attempt to discuss Israel v. Palestine appears to be futile.
midnightrebellion01 2 years ago
well said sir
kessmypersainass 2 years ago
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Unbelievable! Mitchell's way of framing the Jerusalem issue shows his shameful, anti-Israel disposition.
EncompassedRunner 2 years ago
@EncompassedRunner, you sound like Ben Stein, dude! Your counter productive to a positive discussion on this issue. Stay away with your belligerence!.
untomatchi 2 years ago
untomatchi, I'm unfamiliar with what Ben Stein has to say on the matter, but am just absolutely flabbergasted at Mitchell's animus--I knew he was anti-Israel, but did not realize it was to this extent that he would create such a false impression about the status of Jerusalem.
EncompassedRunner 2 years ago
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The US will not be an effective mediator in the peace process if Mitchell is involved because he is not seen as an honest broker. He is too anti-Israel.
marzutraII 2 years ago
marzutall, I can't help but wonder what influence Mitchell's Lebanese background has, because his hostility is so obvious. For ex, here instead of talking about the actual claims to Jerusalem, he talks about the reaction of others without discussing the claims themselves. That's as intellectually dishonest as arguing that the Earth is the center of our solar system b/c everyone else says so, instead of actually looking at the facts.
EncompassedRunner 2 years ago
@EncompassedRunner Actually, I found he was rather defensive of Israel's perspective, despite the unanimous international dissent of the legality of their annexation of Jerusalem. The Palestinians deserve a state. So do the Israelis. The area has been under so many different regimes, and each only for short periods of time ruled by their own ethnicities or cultures, that at this point they need to decide on boundaries and respect them, leaving the past in the past. *continued
nattalyyyyy 1 year ago
@EncompassedRunner With both Palestinians and Israelis so rightfully passionate about their histories and the land that they both consider rightfully theirs, I doubt that it can ever be settled as such realistically. It would require swallowing too much anger and too much pride. And going back to your earlier claims that Mitchell is not an effective peacemaker, please look at your history. Mitchell ended decades of violence in Northern Ireland in negotiations at the request of England & Ireland.
nattalyyyyy 1 year ago
you sir have done nothing in the past year ! you should get the boot! havent we heard the presedinet ??he cleary said ISRAEL HAS TO STOP THE SETTELINTS!! PERIOD!
kessmypersainass 2 years ago
Obama is not the boss of Israel, if Netanyahu offers a temporary freeze to any residences, it is not out of obligation, but once again, an unmerited unilateral good faith measure by Israel to demonstrate desire for peace talks now.
EncompassedRunner 2 years ago
obama is the boss of netanyahu and israel....you think israel could be where its at with out america????those arabs would eat israel in 3 days......if israel wants our help..money...techno;gy..they have to listin to the president!!! period !!!
kessmypersainass 2 years ago
kess, Israel would be much better off without the anti-Israel "2-state solution" being the only plan on the table, thanks to the Bush administration & now Bush III (Obama) ...so no, I don't "think Israel could be where its at without America"...reminder: 1948, 1967, 1973, 1976 (Entebbe)...& oh yeah, 1447 B.C., Egypt
EncompassedRunner 2 years ago
sir we have stuck our necks out for israel for the past 60 years..you think about that when you say 1948 1967 1973 1976.if israel dose not want america's help they should give back those f-16E they have which they want to use to bomb iran with.with out our help israel would be dust in the pages of history..those arabs have been sharping there knifes for the past 60 years.they would eat you alive right now look israel cant even fight 3,000 hezbollah fighters..thats besides the the billions in AID
kessmypersainass 2 years ago
You have no understanding of the dynamics of the situation. Israel is the one that gives America technology. In addition, Israel has a thriving economy, while the US economy is in crisis.
marzutraII 2 years ago
sir i have a great understanding please do not use passive insaults,iam fully aware of the situation and i can say this israel will lose half of its army if we cut the aid....i give it 3 days till syria would go take gholan back...israel is in no position to make demands if israel thinks they can do it then they will wake up one day to war and this time no one is gona rsh them arams....israel cant pay for its own way yet...thats a fact....FACE IT SIR
kessmypersainass 2 years ago
The Israeli economy is one of the stongest and fastest-growing in the world, while the US economy shrank for the past several quarters. And I don't seem to remember Israel making any demands of the US. The sad part of this is that most Americans are basically pro-Israel, it is only muslim immigrants like you and Barack Obama who hate Israel.
marzutraII 2 years ago
we are still THE STRONGEST NATION IN THE WORLD and we WE WILL REBUILD!if any one is counting on us to fail they will have to wait a long long time. i guess you cant understand the american ppls frustrations about a issue that has been going on for so long and its costing us our secuirty...presidint obama is our leader even if the ppl of israel like it or not picked by the ppl for the AMERICAN PPL not to please any one else.and my parents were immigrants IAM AMERICAN
kessmypersainass 2 years ago
If America were as powerful as you claim it is, it would be able to prevent Iran from building nuclear weapons. So maybe America is not that powerful, or the president does not have the will power to do his job.
marzutraII 2 years ago
if you havent noticed sir dimona has not been checked by any one since it was made by the french....iranian nuclear plans date back to the shah times the balnce of power in our eyes was never reached.....we will make a deal with iran i promiss you this sir and if israel trys to go ahead befor that i can see alot of f-15 and f-16 coming down in iraq.......remmber we run this.not israel..we dont need israel we have egypt jordan turkey saudia arabia all the gulf iraq...WAKE UP SIR THE 60S ARE OVER
kessmypersainass 2 years ago
The US has never expressed any objections to Israel's nuclear program, given that Israel is an ally of the US. And if Obama uses the US military against Israel, the American people would rise up and topple his regime. I think even the Saudis and the Egyptians would be on the side of Israel.
marzutraII 2 years ago
military advisers to the president have told him this.this is not my opinion.they told presedint bush the same thing...and then you say america would rise aginst the goverment?lol sir please stop the jokes..we had bush steal the presedentcy we didnt do shit,,,when was the last time we took to the streets and burnd it down for israel?BY THE WAY we have asked israel to open DIMONA this gose back to nixon.please understand friends part ways all the time...and you think the arabs would help??
kessmypersainass 2 years ago
by the way i do not know george Mitchell,i do not speak for the white house ,if you cant see america as a whole is saying enough is enough then you sir are an idiot, we will speak as one when it comes down to our national interest....AMERICA comes FIRST
kessmypersainass 2 years ago
True, but the US doesn't have to give billions of dollars every year to Israel while it keeps building settlements. The Israelis need to choose between their right wing nuts and US friendship, because they can't have both. Ditto for the Palestinians.
acr08807 2 years ago
Israel will always choose to keep our land instead of American money. There are some things that are much more important than money.
marzutraII 2 years ago
your comment shows israel dose not want peace....let me ask you this sir is the gholan is israel as well???how about the shaba farms???and iam glad that mitchell came out and said it...if israel dosent get its act right we will not give them aid.....you dont have to take our money......friends part ways all the time.
kessmypersainass 2 years ago
I agree. Religious freedom and freedom of speech are more important than money. Complete equality for women is more important than money. Wouldn't you agree?
acr08807 2 years ago