@onthemoney90 No need to mention names and no need to analyze things either, you remind me of those who believe in reptile shapeshifting people, the vid speaks for itself and it doesn't need a rocket scientist to figure that out. Don't know if you're with or against my comment, but it doesn't matter anyway, the truth is hard to digest for so many.
@comali2212 Please read all the comments and posts. If u have any questions, I'll try to answer them. Don't ask me to spend a lot of time starting from the begining.
@alydamarte 1) Xtianity has license to deceive, to convert anyone to Xtianity (see Romans). U have to question Translations u see, if they aren't from the original Hebrew text's (Most defineitly areNT!) Xtian bibles r mistranslated from the Hebrew OT. 2) Ur "passages" were reviewed in this forum w/ Judaism's Original version & in other similar Vid's comments. Read them to know & understand!.4) Jews believe in the "Father" part. The rest is "chaff". "J" makes no sense in Judaism.
@onthemoney90 i have a bible that has the Torah in Hebrew and parallel of Greek and English and i also have a Torah that stops at prophet Malachi which is the last of prophets and i can tell you that you are absolutely wrong they are exactly the something. the stories in the NT of course they are different but they also fulfill the prophecies of the Messiah in the torah and how he would die and what he would do. it is so priced that its scary. an example read Isaiah 7:14 Micah 5:2 Jeremiah 31:15
@alydamarte Isaiah 11:2, Isaiah 35:5-6, Isaiah 61:1, their more and i have verses and passages from the hebrew torah in how the massiah would die, resurrect and how he would die and what time and resurrect! yahshua did this unless another so called massiah came and israel would crucify them i wont be able to argue but we are passed that age now so :/
@alydamarte Maybe u have such a bible? But the one Original version of the Torah, given in Hebrew (unlike the Xtian bibles (e.g. King James, KJV, International Version) of which EVERY SINGLE ONE is not only different than the Original Hebrew version, but different than it's (mis)translated brother bible (e.g. KJV is different than King James version). How can the Xtians blaspheme G-d's original WORD by coming out with 21 different versions & meanings??? This is a complete farce!
@onthemoney90 well mr what you seem to fail to understand is that there are different types of English in the world like their is Queens English (KJV), English standard version (ESV) which is what i use, New international English Version (NIEV) and (NKJV) their words are written the same. they are just modernized but they all have the same meaning. people who say the (mostly uneducated Muslims) never even opened a bible they just heard it and assume is true. so please dont fall in this category
@alydamarte i can actually say the same thing with the torah. the torah written in hebrew once translated their are words in other countries that cannot be translated and must be paraphrased or substituted with another word that have the same meaning.
@alydamarte If u read a correct translation, it would clearly, narrowly and exactly match the Original Hebrew. This is clear, as Rabbis, scholars and Jews studying the Torah that know both languages, constantly check and recheck the translation. But you're not excusing the mistranslations which are totally unacceptable. And u also show that u condone them as you're trying to defend them. Why do that?
@onthemoney90 omg are serious? im not trying to condone anyone :/ i have this torah online but i cant post the website b/c it wont let me. and i tried to post it on personal message but your web page is privet :/ look try this go to google and type online Hebrew interlinear bible click on the first result and if its good tell me and if it isnt then i will stop using it
@alydamarte Any online translation can be incomplete, wrong or get changed to such a condition. You would have to get an accurate Hebrew/ English version with commentary from a Jewish Bookstore. Keep in mind that Judaism respects all monotheistic religions including Xtianity. But when one tries to show something from the Torah that just isn't so, it becomes a problem.
@alydamarte When I did some research into the English bibles, as I was confounded by some of the strange claims made by Xtians, I was in total shock at the level of misquotes, mistranslation & misinterpretation of the Torah (translated to the English bibles).
@alydamarte Not only aren't the "daffynitions" the same, but the English translations are totally different than the Original Hebrew meaning. Get an original Hebrew to English O.T. and compare it to the passages you quoted and to other parts of the scriptures you choose. You'll see "lost" translation and glaring differences between the Hebrew and English. This is NOT about minor English differences at all. If u want the truth. It's obvious u haven't checked it out.
@alydamarte Xtianity has "literal" license to translate scriptures according to literal meaning. So u then ascribe g-d like qualities to ordinary people or to unrelated subjects in the Torah. This is anathema to Judaism's core values. Also, a religious Jew has to observe the 613 Masoretic commandments (or the Torah). Yet Xtianity is clueless about this. It's a stretch to believe that g-d "threw" out his entire Torah and it's precepts (ie. 613 laws, etc.) to come up with "J"!!
@onthemoney90 we observe the 10 commandment b/c most of the other commandment are cancelled by the messiah b/c the son of man is the lord of the sabbath. so sacrificing animals is a thing of the past which god clearly states that "your sacrifices are a FOUL smell to me" and he also says i dont not require sacrifices Psalm 40:6 and isiah 1:10
@alydamarte Re:the "Foul" smell passage was because of sin, later FORGIVEN.Hosea clearly says 14:2,3 "Take with you words, and return unto the LORD; say unto Him: 'Forgive all iniquity, and accept that which is good; so will we render for bullocks the offering of our lips." After Temples destruction, prayers substituted for the sacrifices.Psalms 40:6 talks about the "Father" - ur misinterpreting "Lord". Isaiah 1:10. Yes, G-d was annoyed. Malachi 3 prophesizes the return of the Jews to Israel.
@alydamarte In Judaism, the concept of "Messiah" is different. Messiah will just be a messenger, preceded by Elijah the prophet announcing the Redemption. Messiah will help usher it in. Then the world will truly recognize the greatness of G-d, the "Father". Jews main belief already, is in the "Father" concept of g-d, according to a famous rabbi. So Xtianity offers nothing to a Jew, unless they are ignorant and DON'T KNOW THE TRUE FACTS.
@alydamarte Why not use the passages to prove that Mormon's are right? If u literally interpret the Torah without deeper knowledge, u can invent any story. If it says a "man", doesn't mean it's "J". Tell me one place in the entire Torah where it says "J" spelled out in Hebrew as in "Jes...". Joshua, Hosea, Yeshauhu are not "J's" name. Someone important as "J" & the things ascribed to J should have been CLEARLY SPELLED OUT IN THE TORAH. RIGHT? It spells out cows, donkeys and pigs. Right?
@onthemoney90 why would you even say that? theirs no logic to that question b/c not even the prophets of old were prophesied by name, thats like me asking you "were in the torah does it say Jeremiah wil be the next prophet?" by the way in the torah it says a son will be born of a virgin and his name will be Emmanuel. let me find the verse.
@alydamarte isiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Psalms 22:16-18 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. I may tell all my bones: they look [and] stare upon me. They part my garments among them, and cast lots
upon my vesture.
this is directly from the torah, this is a prophecy on who he would die
@alydamarte think about it what are the chances of some being born of a virgin? and what are the chances of someone having their garments ripped and their hands and feet pierced? this is a clear sign why would god make this hard for you to understand? maaaaannn your crazy lol
@alydamarte7:14 The Torah says "maiden", not virg.. (so u have a subtle mistranslation here). According to Judaism, this passage has an entirely different meaning. Since when is Emmanuel "J"? You're wasting ur time as well as mine.
@onthemoney90 thank you :) does this not prove that the massiah is more then a prophet? i dont even think jews treat him as anything! who is yahshua in the eyes of the jews? was he not from god?
Leave us alone will you, and after everything that we have been through ! At least Israel has the framework for this kind of debate and tolerates all schools of thought, and provides freedom of worship for everyone. You try this sort of thing in Saudi Arabia and see what happens.
i would like to engage in a peaceful debate with a knowledgeable jew who knows the torah, i want to understand why jews dont except yahshua as massiah :/
@onthemoney90 well i studied the OT and NT very carefully i know for a fact that Yahshua is the messiah in Jeremiah you see the son of man fulfilling the new covenant god has promised and in Malachi it is foretold that god will come to Israel, on top of that the Sabbath and so many other laws can be changed b/c the Messiah is the lord of the Sabbath and in kings (story of king David) David calls the son of man my lord and my god in psalms we see repeatedly that the son of man holds authority
@alydamarte Judaism has a vastly different interpretation of the scriptures being that the Prophets you mention were Jewish. Please quote the Chapter verse you're referring to, to prove your case.
@onthemoney90 ok here are a few Jeremiah 31:31-34, Isaiah 9:6-7, Daniel 7:13-14, Psalm 22:1-2, Matthew 27:45-50, Malachi 3:1-4, Genesis 18:2-5, Psalm 33:6, John 1:1-18, Psalm 110:1, Psalm 8:3-9... well these are the ones that i know of im sure their is alot more i havent found them yet as you can see ive provided torah scriptures and like 2 gospel scriptures. please review them and tell me what you think. and im currently speaking with someone on youtube about the massiah and if he is yahshua
@alydamarte IN Jeremiah 31:33. The Hebrew translation of "Torati" is my "TORAH" and NOT the Xtian translation of "my Laws" (a distortion). G-d is saying here "I will place My Torah within them, and I will inscribe it upon their heart; and I will be their God and they shall
be a people for Me". That is the "Bris Chadasah" or new covenant. Anything from the NT, which is not a divine or Judaic source (e.g.) Matthew, John or Luke) I won't comment on as it's outside Judaism.
@onthemoney90 you need to read Jeremiah 31 the whole chapter b/c it talks about the tribes of Israel which we all know very well that the tribes have scattered across the world. and the NT might not be divine to you but they are definitely divine to ME. and please if you have no knowledge of the Torah and are just giving your bias opinion dont bother to continue commenting b/c most jews dont even know that god has a separate spirit and how the son of man is just a man :/
@alydamarte Ezekl 45 Vrs 22:Remember ye the law of Moses My servant,which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel,even statutes and ordinances.13:Thus saith the Lord GOD:'This shall be the border,whereby ye shall divide the land for inheritance according to the twelve tribes of Israel,Joseph receiving two portions.14 And ye shall inherit it, one as well as another, concerning which I lifted up My hand to give it unto your fathers;& this land shall fall unto u for inheritance.
@alydamarte Well I've caught you quite a few times now. It's clear that u selectively pick certain "choice" passages trying to be a Prophet & using misinterpreted translations. Friend, u need to take a serious look & examine ur soul. Ask yourself why are u continuing this facade? Judaism accepts converts if they can prove they are VERY sincere. But it's not evangelistic or missionary practicing. Good BYE.
@alydamarte Jewish Interpretation of Isaiah 7:14 and Daniel 7:13-14 Jewish interpreters reject this interpretation of Isaiah 7:14 with several points, they see Isaiah 7:14 referring to a sign during the time of Ahaz, demonstrating before the child has the knowledge, to refuse “Wrong and right” the two kings of Israel and Syria will be destroyed. They say this is a near term sign, and does not refer to the Messiah. Daniel 7:13-14
@alydamarte 1) of 3. [Daniel 7:13] I SAW IN THE NIGHT VISIONS, AND, BEHOLD, ONE LIKE THE SON OF MAN CAME WITH THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN, AND CAME TO THE ANCIENT OF DAYS, AND THEY BROUGHT HIM NEAR BEFORE HIM. ONE LIKE THE SON OF MAN>>: Aramaic, "Ce[Like]Bar[Son of]Enosh[Mankind]": This term usually refers to
@onthemoney90 lol this is not referring to israel b/c look at the next sentence :And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion [is] an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom [that] which shall not be destroyed.
@alydamarte 2) of 3. Israel, cf. AND YE MY FLOCK, THE FLOCK OF MY PASTURE, ARE MEN, AND I AM YOUR GOD, SAITH THE LORD GOD [Ezekiel 34:31]. AND THEIR NOBLES SHALL BE OF THEMSELVES, AND THEIR GOVERNOR SHALL PROCEED FROM THE MIDST OF THEM; AND I WILL CAUSE HIM TO DRAW NEAR, AND HE SHALL APPROACH UNTO ME:
@onthemoney90 this is what my torah says: 34:31 u·athn tzan·i tzan mroith·i adm athm ani alei·km nam adni ieue
english: and·you flock-of·me flock-of pasture-of·me human you i Elohim-of you averment-of my lord Yahweh
:/ please read ezekial 35 and down...Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of man, set thy face against mount Seir, and prophesy against it, And say unto it, Thus saith the Lord GOD; ......
@alydamarte 3) of 3. FOR WHO IS THIS THAT ENGAGED HIS HEART TO APPROACH UNTO ME? SAITH THE LORD. AND YE SHALL BE MY PEOPLE, AND I WILL BE YOUR GOD [Jeremiah 30:21-22]. Daat Mikra points out that we find several times the Kingdom of David spoken of as the Kingdom of God:
[1-Chronicles 28:5] AND OF ALL MY SONS, (FOR THE LORD HATH GIVEN ME MANY SONS,) HE HATH CHOSEN SOLOMON MY SON TO SIT UPON THE THRONE OF THE KINGDOM OF THE LORD OVER ISRAEL. End.
@Jetrothull Not so according to Judaism which respects all monotheistic religions! Since Xtianity worships the "Father", it is considered Monotheistic. It's the "cults" within Xtianity that "complicate" things.
If you are a non jew then maybe there is nothing wrong with sharing because you were not commended abt it. if a Jew practiced your teaching then he would violate the 613 commandments so instead he will get a reward he will get a punishment.
Jewish people should realize that even though the Temple of God in Jerusalem was destroyed around 70 AD, the Lord never command them to rebuild it again like in the Old Testament, since it is really a necessity in order to worship the Lord, because of the covenant.
Jesus Christ is the Messiah who went down to earth two thousand years ago, and the Temple of God is already in every believer, being generously opened by the Lord to the Gentiles also.
According to the interviewed Jewish believers, they preferred to be called Messianic Jews. It's not really that important, it only denotes specific believers in Christ, and have the same true way of salvation which is through faith in Jesus Christ.
Christianity does not destroy the heritage of the Jews, it only proclaims that prophecy of the coming of the Messiah is already fulfilled, and introduced the New Covenant and share the new way of salvation.
@EaglesSoar2 Nice thought. Except for the fact that Messianic's practice Xtianity & Judaism in the Temple; actions that are anathema to Judaism and Traditionall xtianity.
Christianity teaches the new way of salvation after Jesus Christ fulfilled the Old Laws. There are no more sin sacrifice, and the Temple of God is already transferred inside each believer in Christ.
Jewish people still continue rejecting Jesus as the prophesied Messiah which is fulfilled two thousand years ago. Sadly, they are still waiting and praying for the Messiah to come. They will witness it but is the second coming of Jesus to rapture His church already.
@EaglesSoar2 It's incredible that u speak with such authority and strength. Especially since it's clear u haven't properly studied the Hebrew OT, it's Prophets & Scriptures. A small example; In current Jewish practice, prayer and study of the laws of sacrifices has taken the place of sacrifices. In accordance with the words of Hosea, we render instead of bullocks the offering of our lips (Hosea 14,3; Original HEBREW version). Jews actually STUDY the Scriptures & know the true, clear facts.
@OnSafari247 Clarification; A jew who believes in "J" is an idolator & blasphemer in Judaism. A jew (of a jewish mother) who converts to Xtianity is still considered Jewish by Judaism & would be punished for their sins. However Xtianity may "call" him an Xtian. This concept of "rogue" conversion has similiar consequences if an Xtian converts away from Xtianaity.
@onthemoney90 I know what your saying is technically correct from the way the Jews define themselves (i.e. as a race). However, the Jews are NOT a race and their claim that they are is total bull shit. They are a racist group of a non-race. Ironically, if they want to insist that they are a race well then more than 80% of the worlds Jews are not Jews at all, but Khazars. Therefore, what is actually true is that a Jew that accepts Christ ceases to be a Jew, and is in fact a Christian.
@OnSafari247 R Jews a Race? NO! Race is a genetic distinction & refers to people w/ shared ancestry & shared genetic traits. U can't change ur race it's in ur DNA. I could'nt become black or Asian, right? Common ancestry isn't required to be a Jew. Jews worldwide may share common ancestry, as in genetic research; but u can be a Jew w/ out sharing this common ancestry, as by converting. So although I could'nt become black/Asian, blacks & Asians have become Jews(Sammy Davis Jr. & Connie Chung).
@OnSafari247 Interesting theory. "Khazars" are a popular disenfranchising fiction used to discredit Jewish identity by certain groups. One of many genetic research research studies showed genetic links between diverse Jewish populations going back 2500 years ago. IF SOMEONE CONVERTS TO JUDAISM THAT ALSO MAKES THEM JEWISH. Many Jews can trace their lineage back thousands of years. See "Common Genetic Threads Link Thousands of Years of Jewish Ancestry." ScienceDaily (June 4, 2010). MANY CAN'T!
@OnSafari247 If a person is born of a Jewish mother and follows the 613 commandments, they are a "Jew". If they convert to Judaism and follow the same, they are a "Jew". So a Messianic "Jew" is basically violating the 613 laws & worshipping a man g-d, in a Jewish looking house of prayer. What does that make them?
@particle58 Judaism has already answered any question u may have in the OT, it's associated prophets & scriptures. I've answered this question on this site. Get real. You question has been asked since thousands of years ago. Anyone who has properly studied the OT & associated scriptures would easily know them. So stop trying to reinvent the "wheel". Don't let Xtians bambozzle u with great "revelations". Judaism clearly had the answers & wouldn't exist if the questions were valid.
The NT is not a divine document but rather a writing put down 200 years after J's demise (also see Encyclopedia Britannica). This is well known. Nowhere in the O.T. is the name "J" mentioned. Rather, it's content is misquoted, misconstrued and twisted by Xtianity to come up with "J". Aso, the many translations of the OT (eg. kjv) do not reflect the actual meaning in the OT but are twisted to portray the Xtian view. So do NOT quote ur BS interpretations or ascribe idolatry to Rabbi Kaduri.
@onthemoney90=OVERRATED. The Brit Chadasha is indeed divine. The Lord promised a new covenant for the house of Israel and the house of Judah through the prophet Jeremiah (see Jeremiah 31:31-34). Yeshua HaMashiach is now Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri's Saviour and Redeemer and mediator, and has access to God through Him.
knightsofstjoan2004 Funny and laughable. Only a fool would believe even one word you say. You speak as if u are a Prophet or the Pope; Outrageous! But u are a blasphemer & idolator to so demean R' Kaduri, a further indication of the desperate lengths missionaries (ie. "J for J") go to con the ignorant. If u want to play the "J" & Xtian stories, judaism has no problem with that. But don't try to pass ur fantasies off on Jews.
@onthemoney90=YOU'RE SINCERELY DEAD WRONG, I'm neither a blasphemer nor an idolater and I'm not passing fantasies either. I'm proclaiming the truth and witnessing the truth. Read Romans 9:1 " I say the truth in Messiah, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Ruach HaKodesh." The Judaism that you practice is not true Judaism at all.
knightsofstjoan2004 OT, IT'S Jewish Prophets and Scriptures deal with all messianic issues. Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekial etc. A concept of ":J" is considered idolatery & blasphemy of g-d. Xtianity is respected as it's monotheistic. But it's content is forbidden. If people were to carefully study OT & it's works, they would clearly see this & not have to manufacture Xtian fantasies. After the OT, it would a total mockery for G-d to come up with the NT & J - G-d never did; certain people did.
@onthemoney90=YOU'RE SINCERELY DEAD WRONG, there are no fantasies involved at all. Neither Gentile Christians nor Messianic Jews are idolaters and blasphemers. Actually God did made a new covenant for the house of Israel and the house of Judah 2000 years ago and it's still in existence, and now you are saying that God never did, that proves your blindness. The non-messianic rabbis reinterpreted the scriptures because they don't want to believe that Yeshua is the Messiah, the Son of God, and they
@knightsofstjoan2004 Nice fantasy but ur info is incorrect or twisted. I've already responded to these questions, on this site, & proved their incorrect assumptions & conclusions.
@onthemoney90 So tell me then, how is sin ended and transgression forgiven BEFORE the second temple and Jerusalem are destroyed by an invading army? Who is the anointed one who is to be cutt off? How does the messiah enter Jerusalem on an ass AND on white clouds? Do you believe there will be two messiahs or one messiah that comes twice???
@onthemoney90=OVERRATED, my information is definitely and absolutely correct and it's not twisted at all. You deny the new covenant which the Lord made for the house of Israel and the house of Judah, you deny the prophet Jeremiah, and you also deny the true and authentic promised Jewish Messiah. Romans 16:18 proves people like you don't serve the Lord Yeshua HaMashiach and you deceive the hearts and minds of people by means of fine words and flattering speeches.
@knightsofstjoan2004 Ur deceptively twisted. How do u know who made what? Were u there? Quote me ONE passage from the OT, OT jewish scriptures, OT jewish prophets where it "J's" name is spelled out? If "J" was divine, it would be clearly & extensively spelled out in the OT. Even donkey's were spelled out in the OT. A divine "J" never existed so IT IS NOT extensively described or spelled out. U have to do a lot of "cutting and pasting" of words to come up with anything, & that's is UNacceptable.
@knightsofstjoan2004 It's correct cause u were there? Right. Only a fool or ignoramus would believe one word u say. Romans is an anti-semitic, vile work that's not divine. It also encourages Xtians to "decieve" at any cost, to lure people into Xtianity. It's claimed that J and his so called disciples were Jewish, yet Romans vilifies jews. That is crazy.
@onthemoney90=YOU'RE SINCERELY DEAD WRONG, BLIND, AND TOTALLY DELUSIONAL. Romans is neither anti-semetic nor vile at all. The Brit Chadasha is indeed divine and a very Jewish book, it elevates and honors the Jewish people and their place in God's program (see John 4:7 & 19-22, Romans 3:1-2, Romans 9:1-5, and Romans 11:26-27), the charges of anti-semitism are totally false. You have been brainwashed and deceived by the non-messianic rabbis.
@knightsofstjoan2004 1) All Jews pray that the true Jewish messiah will come, each and every day. 2) Therefore all Jewish rabbis are messianic hoping. As far as Romans, I'm refering to the not so "loving" passages in it.
@onthemoney90=You have already missed the Messiah that came by the 1st century A.D. and one day He will return to rule as King of Kings and Lord of Lords and sit upon the throne of David. He will judge the nations according to how they have responded to His offer of salvation. After separating those who are saved from those who reject Him, He will then fulfil the prophecies of the reigning king and bring world peace (see Isaiah 2:1-4).
knightsofstjoan2004 Nowhere in Isaiah or in any of the O.T. bible, O.T. Prophets or O.T. Scriptures is the name "J" mentioned. Rather it's "assumed" to be there.. The first century A.D.....were u there? Sounds as if u were. Next u go there in ur time machine, bring me back a souvenir.
@onthemoney90=Knock it off, O.K.? The Lord has used organizations like Jews for Jesus to bring the truth about Messiah and bring the Gospels to many Jewish people, and you're no better than the amazing Messianic Jew Aviad Cohen who has the spirit of truth given to him by the Lord. The Ruach HaKodesh removing the veil of blindness and softening the heart and many are realizing that Yeshua is the Jewish Messiah.
knightsofstjoan2004~= The original Hebrew OT, Heb Prophets & Scriptures (not the mistranslated self-serving Xtian versions) is the original divine bible. Something soo important as "J" should be clearly spelled out. But it's not. If one is a jew, serious study of Judaism is needed before id'ing w/ "J for J" or Xtianity. All answers to questions are in OT etc. The NT is a seperate document that Xtians would like to associate w/ the OT (to help justify their religion), but it's unrelated.
(continued) have turned a blind eye. The Judaism that you practice is not true Judaism at all, it's a man made religion and it's powerless to save you. After the destruction of the Second Temple, the non-messianic rabbis decided to radically restructure Judaism, substituting synagogues, rabbis, prayers, study and commandments for the Temple, priests and sacrifices, and they also added many of their own laws, rules and traditions. Rabbinic Judaism is what you practice and it won't save you.
@onthemoney90 Can you explain Daniel 9:24 for me? How is transgression finished, sin ended, iniquity forgiven, and everlasting righteousness brought in BEFORE the second temple is destroyed by the Romans?
From one lie to another. The whole bible is just fake trash with stolen egyptain pagan gods. I as a pagan european count' care less about jesus. Because he is a discusting blood sacrifice of the jews.
In matter of fact Jews and Christians have been taking European and american holy pagan lands and forced christianity opun us. You will pay for that!!
Judianism is stolen from older and more true egyptian paganism!!
@knightsofstjoan2004 Really now? Then how come 1 Samuel 15:29 mentions "The eternal one of Israel will not lie nor change his mind: for he is not a man that he should change his mind." I do not see my G-d becoming Jesus or any other man or animal.
@RomanticRebel267=You have the wrong point of view. Read Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called WONDERFUL, COUNSELLOR, THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, THE PRINCE OF PEACE." How can someone be a SON and THE EVERLASTING FATHER at the same time? Why is he called THE MIGHTY GOD? The one spoken of being born as a male child has to be at the same time an eternal person. In fact He has to be
(continued) God. God did not become an ordinary man at all, but rather He left heaven and came to earth and He incarnated and manifested Himself in the flesh (in the form of a man) and dwelt among many. God is not cosigned nor limited, but He has the power to manifest in whatever form He pleases in order to accomplish His task.
@knightsofstjoan2004 Isaiah is known for the method by which he presents many of his messages through the use of prophetic names (Isaiah 7:3, 14; 8:3). In the verse under study, the prophet expounds his message by formulating a prophetic name for Hezekiah.
@RomanticRebel267 Continued: Isaiah is known for the method by which he presents many of his messages through the use of prophetic names (Isaiah 7:3, 14; 8:3). In the verse under study, the prophet expounds his message by formulating a prophetic name for Hezekiah. The words of this name form a sentence expressive of God's greatness, which will become manifest in the benefits to be bestowed upon the future king in his lifetime.
@RomanticRebel267 Continued: Thus, the name, though borne by the king, serves, in reality, as a testimonial to God. Hezekiah is called "a wonderful counselor" because this name is a sign, which foretells God's design for him.
@RomanticRebel267 Hezekiah is called "the mighty God" because this name is a sign that foretells God's defense of Jerusalem through the miraculous sudden mass death of Sennacherib's army.
@RomanticRebel267 Hezekiah is called "the everlasting Father" because this name is a sign, which foretells that God will add years to his life. "Go, and say to Hezekiah: Thus says the Lord, the God of David your father: I have heard your prayer, I have seen your tears; behold, I will add to your days fifteen years" (Isaiah 38:5). Hezekiah is called "the ruler of peace" because this name is a sign, which foretells that God would be merciful to him.
@RomanticRebel267 Punishment for lack of faith in the Almighty will be deferred and peace granted during the last years of his rule. "Then said Hezekiah to Isaiah: 'Good is the word of the Lord which you have spoken.' He said moreover: 'If but there shall be peace and security in my days'" (Isaiah 39:8).
@RomanticRebel267 The fulfillment of the above-stated declarations is foretold in Isaiah 9:6, when, after the Assyrian defeat, Hezekiah's glory increased and peace reigned for the rest of his life (2 Chronicles 32:23).
@RomanticRebel267 Archaeologists have found that there was a sudden expansion of Judean settlements in the years following the fall of the northern kingdom. This indicates that many refugees fled south, thus giving added significance to the statement "that the government may be increased.
@RomanticRebel267 The greatness of Hezekiah lies in his setting the stage for Israel's future. Hezekiah was a true reformer. He cleansed religious worship of foreign influence, purged the palace and the Temple of images and pagan altars, and reestablished pure monotheistic religion.
@RomanticRebel267 In the long run Hezekiah's achievements would outlive him, leaving an everlasting, indelible impact on the history of his people. Thus, God, through Isaiah, bestows upon Hezekiah this name which honors the king by proclaiming the great things God will do for him, and, through him, for the people of Israel.
@RomanticRebel267=Overrated. Neither Isaiah 9:6 nor Isaiah 7:14 refers to Hezekiah because it does not make any sense at all. Ahaz refused to believe in the sign of Immanuel, not even Hezekiah himself.
@RomanticRebel267=For your information, Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri confirmed that Yeshua of Nazareth is the true and authentic Jewish Messiah, he met the Messiah in a vision and his vision is from God as foretold in Joel 2:28 (KJV). The Ruach HaKodesh has removed the veil of blindness and softened the heart. Every Jewish remnant will look upon Him whom they have pierced, repent of their sins, and receive Him as their Messiah (see Zechariah 12:10 and Romans 11:1-6 & 25-36). Also read Psalm 118:22.
@knightsofstjoan2004 Ahhh! The old this Jew or rabbi came to believe Jesus is the Messiah argument. This is like saying scientist have chose to be creation over evolution. This is not a good argument. If you look information for this individual online you will see his son and many of his followers to do not believe the letter is authentic. "Kaduri's son said that at the time the note was written, his father was physically unable to write, and that the note was not in his writing."
@RomanticRebel267=Actually the note or letter is indeed authentic. It was revealed from Yeshua HaMashiach Himself appearing to the rabbi and God is in control.
knightsofstjoan2004 If u say so - when cows can fly. Response to: "Actually the note or letter is indeed authentic. It was revealed from Yeshua HaMashiach Himself appearing to the rabbi and God is in control."
knightsofstjoan2004 What you say is a vicious lie and a further mix of other lies. Only ignorants of Rav Kaduri and of Judaism would believe what you say (Nowhere in his note does it say anything of the sort). You're doing what Xtians are encouraged to do. Deceive any way to get believe in "J" (Romans) and pull the wool over the eyes of the ignorant..
@onthemoney90=OVERRATED, it's definitely and absolutely not a vicious lie nor a further mix of other lies at all, and Isaiah 6:9-10 proves your blindness and Hosea 4:6 proves that you reject truth and knowledge, but it will be the Messiah who will judge you in the end. When you stand infront of God Almighty on Judgement Day, you will realize that He HaShem the Lord God of Israel is indeed Yeshua the Jewish Messiah, and will surely tremble for denying and rejecting Him and the gospels.
@maxavail In the NT, Paul tells the Jews to follow their existing Mosaic law & the Gentiles to follow the NT etc.. So Xtians are NOT jewish. You've got it confused. This forum is about "J for J" & that's what the problem is. The OT spells out the 613 laws and commandments which Jews must follow. You can't have sects and groups that decide to write their own laws & commandments. Having Jewish origins & not following the LAW of the OT r SINNERS. Same idea as the Xtian religion's NT laws.
maxavail In the NT, Paul tells the Jews to follow their existing Mosaic law & the Gentiles to follow the NT etc.. So Xtians are NOT jewish. You've got it confused. This forum is about "J for J" & that's what the problem is. The OT spells out the 613 laws and commandments which Jews must follow. You can't have sects and groups that decide to write their own laws & commandments. Having Jewish origins & not following the LAW of the OT r SINNERS. Same idea as the Xtian religion's NT laws..
@maxavail 1) see hans com (use a . between the words). 2) After the OT was given, the only place allowed to offer sacrifices was the Temple, elsewhere would be idol worship 3) There is no such thing. OT in "Jethro" spells out that Jewish nation asked Moses to explain the OT & Moses trained & appointed thousands of Judges to help him.There were 70,000 ++ Judges with the Jewish nation, throughout all generations. 4) See my previous post "1) of 2."
@onthemoney90 1) "hans. com" took me to some portal, what's that got to do with our topic ? I'd really appreciate if you tried to explain why God specifically demanded sacrifices in OT and not simply accept them.
2) "the only place allowed to offer sacrifices was the Temple"
So you're saying it wasn't a choice, they stopped the sacrifices because they had no place to make them anymore. Isn't that different from the idea that sacrifices are not necessary ?
@onthemoney90 continuation...3) Would a Rabbi from before 70 AD agree that sacrifices are not necessary ? Would any of the 70,000 judges appointed by Moses agree to that ? Just tell me what you honestly think, yes or no.
4) "Ur conclusions r interesting but don't follow Judaic teaching or belief (xcept ignorant PPL)."
Could you be more specific, pls?
5) "Anything Xtian is "borrowed" from Judaism as some of ur ideas show. "
Christianity is one of the Jewish religious parties from 2000 years ago.
@maxavail Ur method is to ask good questions re; advanced practices in Judaism. Asking a Surgeon "y do u clamp over there when u could just as well do it over here" etc. It takes 10 years to become a Surgeon. It takes time to learn all about Judaism.Speak to Ordained Rabbi who can clearly explain everything easily the OT's perspective. That's not me or my intent in this media. Thanks. Answer to #2) Sacrifices r way preferable as there are multiple reasons why, including being G-d's wish (OT).
@maxavail 5) "Anything Xtian is "borrowed" from Judaism (as ur "ideas" show) ". If u take religion with such a gigantic, accepted content as Judaism (ie. OT, it's jewish scriptures & prophets), sidewind it, rewrite and deny it, to form Xtianity, what about Xtianity? Answer. do 100 times worse than that. If u study the OT, it would be very bizarre if G-d would suddenly do a 180 degree turn to a totally new religion. If u think like that, YOU SURELY ACCEPT THE BOOK OF MORMON!! RIGHT?
@onthemoney90 I have no reason to believe a certain group of Jews is twisting the Scriptures simply because another group of Jews says so. To me, as a gentile, this looks like a quarrel in the larger Jewish family and to make it short, I get back to what i said in my first post: no Jew has authority to deny anything Jewish about another Jew. You would need a third party Jew to arbitrate the conflict, and that party does not exist. If you ever want peace with your brothers, live and let live.
@maxavail 2) of 3. 4) Logic can't easily be applied to G-d & things spiritual. Human thinking is limited. Logic has it's place but applying it to G-d's laws and ways is conflicting in many cases. 5) Logic is important in day to day human interaction, decision making & thinking. If a concept. law or quote doesn't tie back directly to OT, it's unacceptable. 6) No. After the WWII Holocaust, many Jews turned away from religion. However, advanced study of the OT may ""justify"" the Holocaust.
@maxavail 1) of 3 Good questions! 1) "J" is the second word starting with 'J' in the title above. 2) & 3) Purpose of the Temple was so G-d (His Dream) could establish an abode in the lower worlds (ie. Earth). The spiritual presence of G-d resided in the "Holy of Holies" in the Temple. The Offerings were something special that G-d (who doesn't really need them) accepts.
Judaism ALWAYS needs the Temple since the presence of G-d resides in the Temple and Earth becomes in spiritual harmony with G-d
@onthemoney90 1) God accepted burnt offerings but why did He ask for them ?
2) You still didn't tell me why the Rabbis concluded that burnt offerings are not necessary until after the Romans destroyed the temple.
3) is post-Roman Judaism a direct revelation from God or simply an intellectual product of Rabbis ? If it's an intellectual product and not a direct revelation, why can't it be subject to logical scrutiny ?
@onthemoney90 And number 4) Judaism does not value undeserved suffering, that's why I think many Jews saw no point in the Holocaust and thus became atheists. In contrast, Christianity strongly emphasizes on the benefits of undeserved suffering calling it nothing else than a means to salvation, because it makes a parallel to what we see as the undeserved suffering of Christ. You see how different this mentality is ? Hammering the Messianic Jews will only make them more determined and numerous.
@maxavail 1) of 2. Ur conclusions r interesting but don't follow Judaic teaching or belief (xcept ignorant PPL). I'm not holding this against u. It's clear from ur questions, u know little about Judaism, yet u feel able to make major judgements about it's intricacies (ie. Judaism) & compare it to Xtianity (a funny idea). Anything Xtian is "borrowed" from Judaism as some of ur ideas show. I'm not an Evangelist trying to convert people to Judaism & can't respond to a million questions.
@onthemoney90 continuation...6) "I can't respond to a million questions."
Doesn't that worry you ?
7) I am concerned about the bias in your judgment. Any man unable to write "Jesus" or "Christianity" or who thinks an attempt to compare one religion to another is a joke is clearly not free of prejudice. I strongly believe in the virtue of reason and advocate for its suspension only when considering God, not opinions of men, may they be even religious authorities.
@maxavail The essence of religion does not always follow logic. Rather there are divine laws and commandments. Puny human logic and G-d's thoughts are not the same. What you're basically suggesting is that unless G-d makes sense to you, u will be ignoring G-d. That doesn't makes sense!
Xtianity is the religion of ""J"". Carefully read what I said in my latest Post. "A person had to repent (by prayer) to be forgiven; That's the essence of the temple offerings. After seriously repenting they did an offering." Before, During & After the Temple's existence, if one didn't repent properly, the Offering was useless! G-d doesn't need Offerings. In the absence of the Temple, Judaism did the part that was there in the first place (& in Hosea) ie. PRAYER. Judaism makes sense, do u?
As far as "ownership" of G-d, no one can claim that. There were special Temple offerings for safety and wellbeing of the nations of the world. The O.T. says re; When messiah comes & the Temple is rebuilt - "And I will bring you (ie. nations of the world) to my holy mountain & you will rejoice in my house of prayer. Your "offerings" to be accepted on my altar. BECAUSE MY HOUSE IS A HOUSE OF PRAYER FOR ALL THE NATIONS". ie. ALL NATIONS! Judaism recognizes all monothestic religions too.
Why has a single doctrine become the only representative of today's Judaism ? And what is the doctrine of any other Jewish religious party from 2000 years ago if not Judaism ? Pharisees, Sadducees, Zealots, Essenes, Christians, they were all present 2000 years ago in Israel and not one of them claimed to be anything other than a Jewish doctrine.
Who gave the Orthodox Jews the right to claim ownership of Judaism ? "If you believe in Yeshua, you don't belong to the Jewish religion." Says who ?
@onthemoney90 My point is quite clear, Orthodox Jews have no authority to claim ownership of the Hebrew God and to decide who is and who is not a Jew. That is not even an emotional argument, it simply derives from the observation that there are several religious parties who are made of ethnic Jews and who claim to be nothing else than Jewish doctrines.
@maxavail How do u arrive at that conclusion? An Ortho Jew is one who follows the 613 laws of the O.T. As the O.T. clearly spelled these out. Those laws and their interpretations were passe down from Moses & G-d, till today (ie. the "Mesora" as written in the O.T. & interpreted by Moses & G-d, as written in "Jethro"). Based on your idea, where does that put Xtianity? Answer: In a very deep hole. Many Senior Xtian clergy converted to Judaism; they saw the light after studying Judaism properly.
They refused Him 2000 years ago, they still refuse Him today.
Just leave them in their ignorance.
comali2212 3 weeks ago
"They" and "them" is a favorite term for vague, nebulous people, places and things, from people that are vague, nebulous and non-existent.
onthemoney90 3 weeks ago
@onthemoney90 No need to mention names and no need to analyze things either, you remind me of those who believe in reptile shapeshifting people, the vid speaks for itself and it doesn't need a rocket scientist to figure that out. Don't know if you're with or against my comment, but it doesn't matter anyway, the truth is hard to digest for so many.
comali2212 3 weeks ago
@comali2212 Nice control freakazoid Xtian move, to try to brainwash anyone questioning ur comments!
onthemoney90 2 weeks ago
@onthemoney90 What was that! I wasn't paying attention
comali2212 2 weeks ago
@comali2212 You wouldn't because you're unfortunately lost your objectivity and are brainwashed. If u seek the truth, read all the comments.
onthemoney90 2 weeks ago
@onthemoney90 Well smarty, why don't u tell me the truth yourself and save my washed brain! Or you're just good at blabbing only.
comali2212 2 weeks ago
@comali2212 Please read all the comments and posts. If u have any questions, I'll try to answer them. Don't ask me to spend a lot of time starting from the begining.
onthemoney90 2 weeks ago
@alydamarte 1) Xtianity has license to deceive, to convert anyone to Xtianity (see Romans). U have to question Translations u see, if they aren't from the original Hebrew text's (Most defineitly areNT!) Xtian bibles r mistranslated from the Hebrew OT. 2) Ur "passages" were reviewed in this forum w/ Judaism's Original version & in other similar Vid's comments. Read them to know & understand!.4) Jews believe in the "Father" part. The rest is "chaff". "J" makes no sense in Judaism.
onthemoney90 1 month ago
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@onthemoney90 i have a bible that has the Torah in Hebrew and parallel of Greek and English and i also have a Torah that stops at prophet Malachi which is the last of prophets and i can tell you that you are absolutely wrong they are exactly the something. the stories in the NT of course they are different but they also fulfill the prophecies of the Messiah in the torah and how he would die and what he would do. it is so priced that its scary. an example read Isaiah 7:14 Micah 5:2 Jeremiah 31:15
alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte Isaiah 11:2, Isaiah 35:5-6, Isaiah 61:1, their more and i have verses and passages from the hebrew torah in how the massiah would die, resurrect and how he would die and what time and resurrect! yahshua did this unless another so called massiah came and israel would crucify them i wont be able to argue but we are passed that age now so :/
alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte Maybe u have such a bible? But the one Original version of the Torah, given in Hebrew (unlike the Xtian bibles (e.g. King James, KJV, International Version) of which EVERY SINGLE ONE is not only different than the Original Hebrew version, but different than it's (mis)translated brother bible (e.g. KJV is different than King James version). How can the Xtians blaspheme G-d's original WORD by coming out with 21 different versions & meanings??? This is a complete farce!
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@onthemoney90 well mr what you seem to fail to understand is that there are different types of English in the world like their is Queens English (KJV), English standard version (ESV) which is what i use, New international English Version (NIEV) and (NKJV) their words are written the same. they are just modernized but they all have the same meaning. people who say the (mostly uneducated Muslims) never even opened a bible they just heard it and assume is true. so please dont fall in this category
alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte i can actually say the same thing with the torah. the torah written in hebrew once translated their are words in other countries that cannot be translated and must be paraphrased or substituted with another word that have the same meaning.
alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte If u read a correct translation, it would clearly, narrowly and exactly match the Original Hebrew. This is clear, as Rabbis, scholars and Jews studying the Torah that know both languages, constantly check and recheck the translation. But you're not excusing the mistranslations which are totally unacceptable. And u also show that u condone them as you're trying to defend them. Why do that?
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@onthemoney90 omg are serious? im not trying to condone anyone :/ i have this torah online but i cant post the website b/c it wont let me. and i tried to post it on personal message but your web page is privet :/ look try this go to google and type online Hebrew interlinear bible click on the first result and if its good tell me and if it isnt then i will stop using it
alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte Any online translation can be incomplete, wrong or get changed to such a condition. You would have to get an accurate Hebrew/ English version with commentary from a Jewish Bookstore. Keep in mind that Judaism respects all monotheistic religions including Xtianity. But when one tries to show something from the Torah that just isn't so, it becomes a problem.
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@alydamarte When I did some research into the English bibles, as I was confounded by some of the strange claims made by Xtians, I was in total shock at the level of misquotes, mistranslation & misinterpretation of the Torah (translated to the English bibles).
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@alydamarte Not only aren't the "daffynitions" the same, but the English translations are totally different than the Original Hebrew meaning. Get an original Hebrew to English O.T. and compare it to the passages you quoted and to other parts of the scriptures you choose. You'll see "lost" translation and glaring differences between the Hebrew and English. This is NOT about minor English differences at all. If u want the truth. It's obvious u haven't checked it out.
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alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte Xtianity has "literal" license to translate scriptures according to literal meaning. So u then ascribe g-d like qualities to ordinary people or to unrelated subjects in the Torah. This is anathema to Judaism's core values. Also, a religious Jew has to observe the 613 Masoretic commandments (or the Torah). Yet Xtianity is clueless about this. It's a stretch to believe that g-d "threw" out his entire Torah and it's precepts (ie. 613 laws, etc.) to come up with "J"!!
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@onthemoney90 we observe the 10 commandment b/c most of the other commandment are cancelled by the messiah b/c the son of man is the lord of the sabbath. so sacrificing animals is a thing of the past which god clearly states that "your sacrifices are a FOUL smell to me" and he also says i dont not require sacrifices Psalm 40:6 and isiah 1:10
alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte Re:the "Foul" smell passage was because of sin, later FORGIVEN.Hosea clearly says 14:2,3 "Take with you words, and return unto the LORD; say unto Him: 'Forgive all iniquity, and accept that which is good; so will we render for bullocks the offering of our lips." After Temples destruction, prayers substituted for the sacrifices.Psalms 40:6 talks about the "Father" - ur misinterpreting "Lord". Isaiah 1:10. Yes, G-d was annoyed. Malachi 3 prophesizes the return of the Jews to Israel.
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@onthemoney90 how am i misrepresenting? tell me who is the father is it not the lord?
alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte In Judaism, the concept of "Messiah" is different. Messiah will just be a messenger, preceded by Elijah the prophet announcing the Redemption. Messiah will help usher it in. Then the world will truly recognize the greatness of G-d, the "Father". Jews main belief already, is in the "Father" concept of g-d, according to a famous rabbi. So Xtianity offers nothing to a Jew, unless they are ignorant and DON'T KNOW THE TRUE FACTS.
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@onthemoney90 well sir it looks like you have not read the torah if you think the massiah is just another messenger :/
alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte Why not use the passages to prove that Mormon's are right? If u literally interpret the Torah without deeper knowledge, u can invent any story. If it says a "man", doesn't mean it's "J". Tell me one place in the entire Torah where it says "J" spelled out in Hebrew as in "Jes...". Joshua, Hosea, Yeshauhu are not "J's" name. Someone important as "J" & the things ascribed to J should have been CLEARLY SPELLED OUT IN THE TORAH. RIGHT? It spells out cows, donkeys and pigs. Right?
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@onthemoney90 why would you even say that? theirs no logic to that question b/c not even the prophets of old were prophesied by name, thats like me asking you "were in the torah does it say Jeremiah wil be the next prophet?" by the way in the torah it says a son will be born of a virgin and his name will be Emmanuel. let me find the verse.
and your web page doesnt work :/
alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte isiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Psalms 22:16-18 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. I may tell all my bones: they look [and] stare upon me. They part my garments among them, and cast lots
upon my vesture.
this is directly from the torah, this is a prophecy on who he would die
alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte think about it what are the chances of some being born of a virgin? and what are the chances of someone having their garments ripped and their hands and feet pierced? this is a clear sign why would god make this hard for you to understand? maaaaannn your crazy lol
alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte See and learn from this site - simpletoremember com
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@alydamarte 7:14 The Torah says "maiden", not virg.. (so u have a subtle mistranslation here). According to Judaism, this passage has an entirely different meaning. Since when is Emmanuel "J"? You're wasting ur time as well as mine.
onthemoney90 1 month ago
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@onthemoney90 thank you :) does this not prove that the massiah is more then a prophet? i dont even think jews treat him as anything! who is yahshua in the eyes of the jews? was he not from god?
alydamarte 1 month ago
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onthemoney90 1 month ago
Leave us alone will you, and after everything that we have been through ! At least Israel has the framework for this kind of debate and tolerates all schools of thought, and provides freedom of worship for everyone. You try this sort of thing in Saudi Arabia and see what happens.
N9BJJ 1 month ago
i would like to engage in a peaceful debate with a knowledgeable jew who knows the torah, i want to understand why jews dont except yahshua as massiah :/
alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte First, carefully read the responses in this blog to similiar questions like yours. Then let me know what questions u still have.
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@onthemoney90 well i studied the OT and NT very carefully i know for a fact that Yahshua is the messiah in Jeremiah you see the son of man fulfilling the new covenant god has promised and in Malachi it is foretold that god will come to Israel, on top of that the Sabbath and so many other laws can be changed b/c the Messiah is the lord of the Sabbath and in kings (story of king David) David calls the son of man my lord and my god in psalms we see repeatedly that the son of man holds authority
alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte like god and can forgive iniquities so much more.
alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte Judaism has a vastly different interpretation of the scriptures being that the Prophets you mention were Jewish. Please quote the Chapter verse you're referring to, to prove your case.
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@onthemoney90 ok here are a few Jeremiah 31:31-34, Isaiah 9:6-7, Daniel 7:13-14, Psalm 22:1-2, Matthew 27:45-50, Malachi 3:1-4, Genesis 18:2-5, Psalm 33:6, John 1:1-18, Psalm 110:1, Psalm 8:3-9... well these are the ones that i know of im sure their is alot more i havent found them yet as you can see ive provided torah scriptures and like 2 gospel scriptures. please review them and tell me what you think. and im currently speaking with someone on youtube about the massiah and if he is yahshua
alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte IN Jeremiah 31:33. The Hebrew translation of "Torati" is my "TORAH" and NOT the Xtian translation of "my Laws" (a distortion). G-d is saying here "I will place My Torah within them, and I will inscribe it upon their heart; and I will be their God and they shall
be a people for Me". That is the "Bris Chadasah" or new covenant. Anything from the NT, which is not a divine or Judaic source (e.g.) Matthew, John or Luke) I won't comment on as it's outside Judaism.
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@onthemoney90 you need to read Jeremiah 31 the whole chapter b/c it talks about the tribes of Israel which we all know very well that the tribes have scattered across the world. and the NT might not be divine to you but they are definitely divine to ME. and please if you have no knowledge of the Torah and are just giving your bias opinion dont bother to continue commenting b/c most jews dont even know that god has a separate spirit and how the son of man is just a man :/
alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte Ezekl 45 Vrs 22:Remember ye the law of Moses My servant,which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel,even statutes and ordinances.13:Thus saith the Lord GOD:'This shall be the border,whereby ye shall divide the land for inheritance according to the twelve tribes of Israel,Joseph receiving two portions.14 And ye shall inherit it, one as well as another, concerning which I lifted up My hand to give it unto your fathers;& this land shall fall unto u for inheritance.
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@alydamarte Well I've caught you quite a few times now. It's clear that u selectively pick certain "choice" passages trying to be a Prophet & using misinterpreted translations. Friend, u need to take a serious look & examine ur soul. Ask yourself why are u continuing this facade? Judaism accepts converts if they can prove they are VERY sincere. But it's not evangelistic or missionary practicing. Good BYE.
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@alydamarte Jewish Interpretation of Isaiah 7:14 and Daniel 7:13-14 Jewish interpreters reject this interpretation of Isaiah 7:14 with several points, they see Isaiah 7:14 referring to a sign during the time of Ahaz, demonstrating before the child has the knowledge, to refuse “Wrong and right” the two kings of Israel and Syria will be destroyed. They say this is a near term sign, and does not refer to the Messiah. Daniel 7:13-14
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@alydamarte 1) of 3. [Daniel 7:13] I SAW IN THE NIGHT VISIONS, AND, BEHOLD, ONE LIKE THE SON OF MAN CAME WITH THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN, AND CAME TO THE ANCIENT OF DAYS, AND THEY BROUGHT HIM NEAR BEFORE HIM. ONE LIKE THE SON OF MAN>>: Aramaic, "Ce[Like]Bar[Son of]Enosh[Mankind]": This term usually refers to
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alydamarte 1 month ago
@onthemoney90 lol this is not referring to israel b/c look at the next sentence :And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion [is] an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom [that] which shall not be destroyed.
c'mon seriously?
alydamarte 1 month ago
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alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte 2) of 3. Israel, cf. AND YE MY FLOCK, THE FLOCK OF MY PASTURE, ARE MEN, AND I AM YOUR GOD, SAITH THE LORD GOD [Ezekiel 34:31]. AND THEIR NOBLES SHALL BE OF THEMSELVES, AND THEIR GOVERNOR SHALL PROCEED FROM THE MIDST OF THEM; AND I WILL CAUSE HIM TO DRAW NEAR, AND HE SHALL APPROACH UNTO ME:
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@onthemoney90 this is what my torah says: 34:31 u·athn tzan·i tzan mroith·i adm athm ani alei·km nam adni ieue
english: and·you flock-of·me flock-of pasture-of·me human you i Elohim-of you averment-of my lord Yahweh
:/ please read ezekial 35 and down...Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of man, set thy face against mount Seir, and prophesy against it, And say unto it, Thus saith the Lord GOD; ......
alydamarte 1 month ago
@alydamarte 3) of 3. FOR WHO IS THIS THAT ENGAGED HIS HEART TO APPROACH UNTO ME? SAITH THE LORD. AND YE SHALL BE MY PEOPLE, AND I WILL BE YOUR GOD [Jeremiah 30:21-22]. Daat Mikra points out that we find several times the Kingdom of David spoken of as the Kingdom of God:
[1-Chronicles 28:5] AND OF ALL MY SONS, (FOR THE LORD HATH GIVEN ME MANY SONS,) HE HATH CHOSEN SOLOMON MY SON TO SIT UPON THE THRONE OF THE KINGDOM OF THE LORD OVER ISRAEL. End.
onthemoney90 1 month ago
Christianity = Paganism !!!
Jetrothull 1 month ago in playlist jews for jesus
@Jetrothull Not so according to Judaism which respects all monotheistic religions! Since Xtianity worships the "Father", it is considered Monotheistic. It's the "cults" within Xtianity that "complicate" things.
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@onthemoney90
If you are a non jew then maybe there is nothing wrong with sharing because you were not commended abt it. if a Jew practiced your teaching then he would violate the 613 commandments so instead he will get a reward he will get a punishment.
Jetrothull 1 month ago
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onthemoney90 1 month ago
Jewish people should realize that even though the Temple of God in Jerusalem was destroyed around 70 AD, the Lord never command them to rebuild it again like in the Old Testament, since it is really a necessity in order to worship the Lord, because of the covenant.
Jesus Christ is the Messiah who went down to earth two thousand years ago, and the Temple of God is already in every believer, being generously opened by the Lord to the Gentiles also.
EaglesSoar2 2 months ago
According to the interviewed Jewish believers, they preferred to be called Messianic Jews. It's not really that important, it only denotes specific believers in Christ, and have the same true way of salvation which is through faith in Jesus Christ.
Christianity does not destroy the heritage of the Jews, it only proclaims that prophecy of the coming of the Messiah is already fulfilled, and introduced the New Covenant and share the new way of salvation.
EaglesSoar2 2 months ago
@EaglesSoar2 Nice thought. Except for the fact that Messianic's practice Xtianity & Judaism in the Temple; actions that are anathema to Judaism and Traditionall xtianity.
onthemoney90 2 months ago
Christianity teaches the new way of salvation after Jesus Christ fulfilled the Old Laws. There are no more sin sacrifice, and the Temple of God is already transferred inside each believer in Christ.
Jewish people still continue rejecting Jesus as the prophesied Messiah which is fulfilled two thousand years ago. Sadly, they are still waiting and praying for the Messiah to come. They will witness it but is the second coming of Jesus to rapture His church already.
EaglesSoar2 2 months ago
@EaglesSoar2 It's incredible that u speak with such authority and strength. Especially since it's clear u haven't properly studied the Hebrew OT, it's Prophets & Scriptures. A small example; In current Jewish practice, prayer and study of the laws of sacrifices has taken the place of sacrifices. In accordance with the words of Hosea, we render instead of bullocks the offering of our lips (Hosea 14,3; Original HEBREW version). Jews actually STUDY the Scriptures & know the true, clear facts.
onthemoney90 2 months ago
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EaglesSoar2 2 months ago
Crazy thought here, but isn't a Jew who believes in Christ a ummmmm................Christian.
OnSafari247 2 months ago
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onthemoney90 2 months ago
@OnSafari247 Clarification; A jew who believes in "J" is an idolator & blasphemer in Judaism. A jew (of a jewish mother) who converts to Xtianity is still considered Jewish by Judaism & would be punished for their sins. However Xtianity may "call" him an Xtian. This concept of "rogue" conversion has similiar consequences if an Xtian converts away from Xtianaity.
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@onthemoney90 I know what your saying is technically correct from the way the Jews define themselves (i.e. as a race). However, the Jews are NOT a race and their claim that they are is total bull shit. They are a racist group of a non-race. Ironically, if they want to insist that they are a race well then more than 80% of the worlds Jews are not Jews at all, but Khazars. Therefore, what is actually true is that a Jew that accepts Christ ceases to be a Jew, and is in fact a Christian.
OnSafari247 1 month ago
@OnSafari247 As I mentioned a convert away from Judaism "is always held accountable as a Jew by Judaism" & responsible/punished by g-d for their sins.
Perhaps Xtianity considers them as ceasing their prior religion. But NOT Judaism for a convert to Xtianity.
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@OnSafari247 R Jews a Race? NO! Race is a genetic distinction & refers to people w/ shared ancestry & shared genetic traits. U can't change ur race it's in ur DNA. I could'nt become black or Asian, right? Common ancestry isn't required to be a Jew. Jews worldwide may share common ancestry, as in genetic research; but u can be a Jew w/ out sharing this common ancestry, as by converting. So although I could'nt become black/Asian, blacks & Asians have become Jews(Sammy Davis Jr. & Connie Chung).
onthemoney90 1 month ago
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@OnSafari247 Interesting theory. "Khazars" are a popular disenfranchising fiction used to discredit Jewish identity by certain groups. One of many genetic research research studies showed genetic links between diverse Jewish populations going back 2500 years ago. IF SOMEONE CONVERTS TO JUDAISM THAT ALSO MAKES THEM JEWISH. Many Jews can trace their lineage back thousands of years. See "Common Genetic Threads Link Thousands of Years of Jewish Ancestry." ScienceDaily (June 4, 2010). MANY CAN'T!
onthemoney90 1 month ago
@OnSafari247 If a person is born of a Jewish mother and follows the 613 commandments, they are a "Jew". If they convert to Judaism and follow the same, they are a "Jew". So a Messianic "Jew" is basically violating the 613 laws & worshipping a man g-d, in a Jewish looking house of prayer. What does that make them?
onthemoney90 1 month ago
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@particle58 Judaism has already answered any question u may have in the OT, it's associated prophets & scriptures. I've answered this question on this site. Get real. You question has been asked since thousands of years ago. Anyone who has properly studied the OT & associated scriptures would easily know them. So stop trying to reinvent the "wheel". Don't let Xtians bambozzle u with great "revelations". Judaism clearly had the answers & wouldn't exist if the questions were valid.
onthemoney90 3 months ago
The NT is not a divine document but rather a writing put down 200 years after J's demise (also see Encyclopedia Britannica). This is well known. Nowhere in the O.T. is the name "J" mentioned. Rather, it's content is misquoted, misconstrued and twisted by Xtianity to come up with "J". Aso, the many translations of the OT (eg. kjv) do not reflect the actual meaning in the OT but are twisted to portray the Xtian view. So do NOT quote ur BS interpretations or ascribe idolatry to Rabbi Kaduri.
onthemoney90 3 months ago
@onthemoney90=OVERRATED. The Brit Chadasha is indeed divine. The Lord promised a new covenant for the house of Israel and the house of Judah through the prophet Jeremiah (see Jeremiah 31:31-34). Yeshua HaMashiach is now Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri's Saviour and Redeemer and mediator, and has access to God through Him.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
knightsofstjoan2004 Funny and laughable. Only a fool would believe even one word you say. You speak as if u are a Prophet or the Pope; Outrageous! But u are a blasphemer & idolator to so demean R' Kaduri, a further indication of the desperate lengths missionaries (ie. "J for J") go to con the ignorant. If u want to play the "J" & Xtian stories, judaism has no problem with that. But don't try to pass ur fantasies off on Jews.
onthemoney90 3 months ago
@onthemoney90=YOU'RE SINCERELY DEAD WRONG, I'm neither a blasphemer nor an idolater and I'm not passing fantasies either. I'm proclaiming the truth and witnessing the truth. Read Romans 9:1 " I say the truth in Messiah, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Ruach HaKodesh." The Judaism that you practice is not true Judaism at all.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
knightsofstjoan2004 OT, IT'S Jewish Prophets and Scriptures deal with all messianic issues. Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekial etc. A concept of ":J" is considered idolatery & blasphemy of g-d. Xtianity is respected as it's monotheistic. But it's content is forbidden. If people were to carefully study OT & it's works, they would clearly see this & not have to manufacture Xtian fantasies. After the OT, it would a total mockery for G-d to come up with the NT & J - G-d never did; certain people did.
onthemoney90 3 months ago
@onthemoney90=YOU'RE SINCERELY DEAD WRONG, there are no fantasies involved at all. Neither Gentile Christians nor Messianic Jews are idolaters and blasphemers. Actually God did made a new covenant for the house of Israel and the house of Judah 2000 years ago and it's still in existence, and now you are saying that God never did, that proves your blindness. The non-messianic rabbis reinterpreted the scriptures because they don't want to believe that Yeshua is the Messiah, the Son of God, and they
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
@knightsofstjoan2004 Nice fantasy but ur info is incorrect or twisted. I've already responded to these questions, on this site, & proved their incorrect assumptions & conclusions.
onthemoney90 3 months ago
@onthemoney90 So tell me then, how is sin ended and transgression forgiven BEFORE the second temple and Jerusalem are destroyed by an invading army? Who is the anointed one who is to be cutt off? How does the messiah enter Jerusalem on an ass AND on white clouds? Do you believe there will be two messiahs or one messiah that comes twice???
particle58 3 months ago
@onthemoney90=OVERRATED, my information is definitely and absolutely correct and it's not twisted at all. You deny the new covenant which the Lord made for the house of Israel and the house of Judah, you deny the prophet Jeremiah, and you also deny the true and authentic promised Jewish Messiah. Romans 16:18 proves people like you don't serve the Lord Yeshua HaMashiach and you deceive the hearts and minds of people by means of fine words and flattering speeches.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
@knightsofstjoan2004 Ur deceptively twisted. How do u know who made what? Were u there? Quote me ONE passage from the OT, OT jewish scriptures, OT jewish prophets where it "J's" name is spelled out? If "J" was divine, it would be clearly & extensively spelled out in the OT. Even donkey's were spelled out in the OT. A divine "J" never existed so IT IS NOT extensively described or spelled out. U have to do a lot of "cutting and pasting" of words to come up with anything, & that's is UNacceptable.
onthemoney90 3 months ago
@onthemoney90=It's you who's deceptively twisted, not I.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
@knightsofstjoan2004 It's correct cause u were there? Right. Only a fool or ignoramus would believe one word u say. Romans is an anti-semitic, vile work that's not divine. It also encourages Xtians to "decieve" at any cost, to lure people into Xtianity. It's claimed that J and his so called disciples were Jewish, yet Romans vilifies jews. That is crazy.
onthemoney90 3 months ago
@onthemoney90=YOU'RE SINCERELY DEAD WRONG, BLIND, AND TOTALLY DELUSIONAL. Romans is neither anti-semetic nor vile at all. The Brit Chadasha is indeed divine and a very Jewish book, it elevates and honors the Jewish people and their place in God's program (see John 4:7 & 19-22, Romans 3:1-2, Romans 9:1-5, and Romans 11:26-27), the charges of anti-semitism are totally false. You have been brainwashed and deceived by the non-messianic rabbis.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
@knightsofstjoan2004 1) All Jews pray that the true Jewish messiah will come, each and every day. 2) Therefore all Jewish rabbis are messianic hoping. As far as Romans, I'm refering to the not so "loving" passages in it.
onthemoney90 3 months ago
@onthemoney90=You have already missed the Messiah that came by the 1st century A.D. and one day He will return to rule as King of Kings and Lord of Lords and sit upon the throne of David. He will judge the nations according to how they have responded to His offer of salvation. After separating those who are saved from those who reject Him, He will then fulfil the prophecies of the reigning king and bring world peace (see Isaiah 2:1-4).
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
knightsofstjoan2004 Nowhere in Isaiah or in any of the O.T. bible, O.T. Prophets or O.T. Scriptures is the name "J" mentioned. Rather it's "assumed" to be there.. The first century A.D.....were u there? Sounds as if u were. Next u go there in ur time machine, bring me back a souvenir.
onthemoney90 3 months ago
@onthemoney90=Knock it off, O.K.? The Lord has used organizations like Jews for Jesus to bring the truth about Messiah and bring the Gospels to many Jewish people, and you're no better than the amazing Messianic Jew Aviad Cohen who has the spirit of truth given to him by the Lord. The Ruach HaKodesh removing the veil of blindness and softening the heart and many are realizing that Yeshua is the Jewish Messiah.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
knightsofstjoan2004~= Where exactly in the O.T. does it say this? So far, you're just quoting off the top of ur head.
onthemoney90 3 months ago
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@onthemoney90=No, I'm not quoting off the top of my head. I'm holding Biblical standards upon the teachings of the Tanakh and Brit Chadasha.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
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onthemoney90 3 months ago
knightsofstjoan2004~= The original Hebrew OT, Heb Prophets & Scriptures (not the mistranslated self-serving Xtian versions) is the original divine bible. Something soo important as "J" should be clearly spelled out. But it's not. If one is a jew, serious study of Judaism is needed before id'ing w/ "J for J" or Xtianity. All answers to questions are in OT etc. The NT is a seperate document that Xtians would like to associate w/ the OT (to help justify their religion), but it's unrelated.
onthemoney90 3 months ago
(continued) have turned a blind eye. The Judaism that you practice is not true Judaism at all, it's a man made religion and it's powerless to save you. After the destruction of the Second Temple, the non-messianic rabbis decided to radically restructure Judaism, substituting synagogues, rabbis, prayers, study and commandments for the Temple, priests and sacrifices, and they also added many of their own laws, rules and traditions. Rabbinic Judaism is what you practice and it won't save you.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
@onthemoney90 Can you explain Daniel 9:24 for me? How is transgression finished, sin ended, iniquity forgiven, and everlasting righteousness brought in BEFORE the second temple is destroyed by the Romans?
particle58 3 months ago
@particle58=Kindly read the message I sent you, they are the answers to the questions you're asking.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
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onthemoney90 3 months ago
Israelites shoulrd be the only ones who were Christians. Christianity has no rightfull place in Europe. Europe is from ancient times Pagan.
We believe in ourselfs and our strength. Like Hitler said our spirit is in our blood.
Jesus was a jew and belongs to judianism or some other israel believe system.
Christianity has no rightfull place in EUrope or USA.
turbofritz2 3 months ago
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From one lie to another. The whole bible is just fake trash with stolen egyptain pagan gods. I as a pagan european count' care less about jesus. Because he is a discusting blood sacrifice of the jews.
In matter of fact Jews and Christians have been taking European and american holy pagan lands and forced christianity opun us. You will pay for that!!
Judianism is stolen from older and more true egyptian paganism!!
turbofritz2 4 months ago
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they are not jewish!!!!!! they are liers trying to get jewish people to convert!!!! be careful with than, they are dangerous!!!!!!!
suisse2224 4 months ago
these Jesus believeing Jews are no doubt part of the 144,000 mentioned in Revelation.....too bad more Jews can't figure this out
shovelniron 4 months ago
shovelniron If a Jew believes in "J", they're Jewish in name only, & considered a blasphemer & idolator as per the O.T. Be CLEAR about that.
onthemoney90 4 months ago
@shovelniron I will always be proud of my Jewishness and faithful to Hashem. I follow the laws of G-d not Jesus.
RomanticRebel267 4 months ago
@RomanticRebel267 If ur a "J for J", ur in major violation of the O.T. You need to make up ur mind. Only one, not both.
onthemoney90 4 months ago
@onthemoney90 What are you talking about? I do not believe in Jesus at all!
RomanticRebel267 4 months ago
@RomanticRebel267 - You are right to not believe in Jesus at all. The Jews where royally screwed by the Romans with that one.
They wrote the New Testament and invented Jesus. They had just destroyed Jerusalem and defeated the Jews.
You ever heard of the Titus/Jesus typology?
Franknarfable 3 months ago
@RomanticRebel267=It seems you don't realize that HaShem the Lord God of Israel and Yeshua the Jewish Messiah are one and the same.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
@knightsofstjoan2004 Really now? Then how come 1 Samuel 15:29 mentions "The eternal one of Israel will not lie nor change his mind: for he is not a man that he should change his mind." I do not see my G-d becoming Jesus or any other man or animal.
RomanticRebel267 3 months ago
@RomanticRebel267=You have the wrong point of view. Read Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called WONDERFUL, COUNSELLOR, THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, THE PRINCE OF PEACE." How can someone be a SON and THE EVERLASTING FATHER at the same time? Why is he called THE MIGHTY GOD? The one spoken of being born as a male child has to be at the same time an eternal person. In fact He has to be
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
(continued) God. God did not become an ordinary man at all, but rather He left heaven and came to earth and He incarnated and manifested Himself in the flesh (in the form of a man) and dwelt among many. God is not cosigned nor limited, but He has the power to manifest in whatever form He pleases in order to accomplish His task.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
@knightsofstjoan2004 Isaiah is known for the method by which he presents many of his messages through the use of prophetic names (Isaiah 7:3, 14; 8:3). In the verse under study, the prophet expounds his message by formulating a prophetic name for Hezekiah.
RomanticRebel267 3 months ago
@RomanticRebel267 Continued: Isaiah is known for the method by which he presents many of his messages through the use of prophetic names (Isaiah 7:3, 14; 8:3). In the verse under study, the prophet expounds his message by formulating a prophetic name for Hezekiah. The words of this name form a sentence expressive of God's greatness, which will become manifest in the benefits to be bestowed upon the future king in his lifetime.
RomanticRebel267 3 months ago
@RomanticRebel267 Continued: Thus, the name, though borne by the king, serves, in reality, as a testimonial to God. Hezekiah is called "a wonderful counselor" because this name is a sign, which foretells God's design for him.
RomanticRebel267 3 months ago
@RomanticRebel267 Hezekiah is called "the mighty God" because this name is a sign that foretells God's defense of Jerusalem through the miraculous sudden mass death of Sennacherib's army.
RomanticRebel267 3 months ago
@RomanticRebel267 Hezekiah is called "the everlasting Father" because this name is a sign, which foretells that God will add years to his life. "Go, and say to Hezekiah: Thus says the Lord, the God of David your father: I have heard your prayer, I have seen your tears; behold, I will add to your days fifteen years" (Isaiah 38:5). Hezekiah is called "the ruler of peace" because this name is a sign, which foretells that God would be merciful to him.
RomanticRebel267 3 months ago
@RomanticRebel267 Punishment for lack of faith in the Almighty will be deferred and peace granted during the last years of his rule. "Then said Hezekiah to Isaiah: 'Good is the word of the Lord which you have spoken.' He said moreover: 'If but there shall be peace and security in my days'" (Isaiah 39:8).
RomanticRebel267 3 months ago
@RomanticRebel267 The fulfillment of the above-stated declarations is foretold in Isaiah 9:6, when, after the Assyrian defeat, Hezekiah's glory increased and peace reigned for the rest of his life (2 Chronicles 32:23).
RomanticRebel267 3 months ago
@RomanticRebel267 Archaeologists have found that there was a sudden expansion of Judean settlements in the years following the fall of the northern kingdom. This indicates that many refugees fled south, thus giving added significance to the statement "that the government may be increased.
RomanticRebel267 3 months ago
@RomanticRebel267 The greatness of Hezekiah lies in his setting the stage for Israel's future. Hezekiah was a true reformer. He cleansed religious worship of foreign influence, purged the palace and the Temple of images and pagan altars, and reestablished pure monotheistic religion.
RomanticRebel267 3 months ago
@RomanticRebel267 In the long run Hezekiah's achievements would outlive him, leaving an everlasting, indelible impact on the history of his people. Thus, God, through Isaiah, bestows upon Hezekiah this name which honors the king by proclaiming the great things God will do for him, and, through him, for the people of Israel.
RomanticRebel267 3 months ago
@RomanticRebel267=Overrated. Neither Isaiah 9:6 nor Isaiah 7:14 refers to Hezekiah because it does not make any sense at all. Ahaz refused to believe in the sign of Immanuel, not even Hezekiah himself.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
@knightsofstjoan2004 It's your choice to believe in what you want. I would chose HaShem and his word over the words that men have written.
RomanticRebel267 3 months ago
@RomanticRebel267=For your information, Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri confirmed that Yeshua of Nazareth is the true and authentic Jewish Messiah, he met the Messiah in a vision and his vision is from God as foretold in Joel 2:28 (KJV). The Ruach HaKodesh has removed the veil of blindness and softened the heart. Every Jewish remnant will look upon Him whom they have pierced, repent of their sins, and receive Him as their Messiah (see Zechariah 12:10 and Romans 11:1-6 & 25-36). Also read Psalm 118:22.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
@knightsofstjoan2004 Ahhh! The old this Jew or rabbi came to believe Jesus is the Messiah argument. This is like saying scientist have chose to be creation over evolution. This is not a good argument. If you look information for this individual online you will see his son and many of his followers to do not believe the letter is authentic. "Kaduri's son said that at the time the note was written, his father was physically unable to write, and that the note was not in his writing."
RomanticRebel267 3 months ago
@RomanticRebel267=Actually the note or letter is indeed authentic. It was revealed from Yeshua HaMashiach Himself appearing to the rabbi and God is in control.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
@knightsofstjoan2004 Really now? I would believe his son more then an imagery figure who didn't exist in the past.
RomanticRebel267 3 months ago
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knightsofstjoan2004 If u say so - when cows can fly. Response to: "Actually the note or letter is indeed authentic. It was revealed from Yeshua HaMashiach Himself appearing to the rabbi and God is in control."
onthemoney90 3 months ago
knightsofstjoan2004 What you say is a vicious lie and a further mix of other lies. Only ignorants of Rav Kaduri and of Judaism would believe what you say (Nowhere in his note does it say anything of the sort). You're doing what Xtians are encouraged to do. Deceive any way to get believe in "J" (Romans) and pull the wool over the eyes of the ignorant..
onthemoney90 3 months ago
@onthemoney90=OVERRATED, it's definitely and absolutely not a vicious lie nor a further mix of other lies at all, and Isaiah 6:9-10 proves your blindness and Hosea 4:6 proves that you reject truth and knowledge, but it will be the Messiah who will judge you in the end. When you stand infront of God Almighty on Judgement Day, you will realize that He HaShem the Lord God of Israel is indeed Yeshua the Jewish Messiah, and will surely tremble for denying and rejecting Him and the gospels.
knightsofstjoan2004 3 months ago
na nach nachm nachman m'uman
antireptile 4 months ago
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@maxavail In the NT, Paul tells the Jews to follow their existing Mosaic law & the Gentiles to follow the NT etc.. So Xtians are NOT jewish. You've got it confused. This forum is about "J for J" & that's what the problem is. The OT spells out the 613 laws and commandments which Jews must follow. You can't have sects and groups that decide to write their own laws & commandments. Having Jewish origins & not following the LAW of the OT r SINNERS. Same idea as the Xtian religion's NT laws.
onthemoney90 4 months ago
maxavail In the NT, Paul tells the Jews to follow their existing Mosaic law & the Gentiles to follow the NT etc.. So Xtians are NOT jewish. You've got it confused. This forum is about "J for J" & that's what the problem is. The OT spells out the 613 laws and commandments which Jews must follow. You can't have sects and groups that decide to write their own laws & commandments. Having Jewish origins & not following the LAW of the OT r SINNERS. Same idea as the Xtian religion's NT laws..
onthemoney90 4 months ago
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onthemoney90 4 months ago
@maxavail 1) see hans com (use a . between the words). 2) After the OT was given, the only place allowed to offer sacrifices was the Temple, elsewhere would be idol worship 3) There is no such thing. OT in "Jethro" spells out that Jewish nation asked Moses to explain the OT & Moses trained & appointed thousands of Judges to help him.There were 70,000 ++ Judges with the Jewish nation, throughout all generations. 4) See my previous post "1) of 2."
onthemoney90 4 months ago
@onthemoney90 1) "hans. com" took me to some portal, what's that got to do with our topic ? I'd really appreciate if you tried to explain why God specifically demanded sacrifices in OT and not simply accept them.
2) "the only place allowed to offer sacrifices was the Temple"
So you're saying it wasn't a choice, they stopped the sacrifices because they had no place to make them anymore. Isn't that different from the idea that sacrifices are not necessary ?
maxavail 4 months ago
@onthemoney90 continuation...3) Would a Rabbi from before 70 AD agree that sacrifices are not necessary ? Would any of the 70,000 judges appointed by Moses agree to that ? Just tell me what you honestly think, yes or no.
4) "Ur conclusions r interesting but don't follow Judaic teaching or belief (xcept ignorant PPL)."
Could you be more specific, pls?
5) "Anything Xtian is "borrowed" from Judaism as some of ur ideas show. "
Christianity is one of the Jewish religious parties from 2000 years ago.
maxavail 4 months ago
@maxavail Ur method is to ask good questions re; advanced practices in Judaism. Asking a Surgeon "y do u clamp over there when u could just as well do it over here" etc. It takes 10 years to become a Surgeon. It takes time to learn all about Judaism.Speak to Ordained Rabbi who can clearly explain everything easily the OT's perspective. That's not me or my intent in this media. Thanks. Answer to #2) Sacrifices r way preferable as there are multiple reasons why, including being G-d's wish (OT).
onthemoney90 4 months ago
@maxavail 5) "Anything Xtian is "borrowed" from Judaism (as ur "ideas" show) ". If u take religion with such a gigantic, accepted content as Judaism (ie. OT, it's jewish scriptures & prophets), sidewind it, rewrite and deny it, to form Xtianity, what about Xtianity? Answer. do 100 times worse than that. If u study the OT, it would be very bizarre if G-d would suddenly do a 180 degree turn to a totally new religion. If u think like that, YOU SURELY ACCEPT THE BOOK OF MORMON!! RIGHT?
onthemoney90 4 months ago
@onthemoney90 I have no reason to believe a certain group of Jews is twisting the Scriptures simply because another group of Jews says so. To me, as a gentile, this looks like a quarrel in the larger Jewish family and to make it short, I get back to what i said in my first post: no Jew has authority to deny anything Jewish about another Jew. You would need a third party Jew to arbitrate the conflict, and that party does not exist. If you ever want peace with your brothers, live and let live.
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onthemoney90 4 months ago
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@maxavail 2) of 3. 4) Logic can't easily be applied to G-d & things spiritual. Human thinking is limited. Logic has it's place but applying it to G-d's laws and ways is conflicting in many cases. 5) Logic is important in day to day human interaction, decision making & thinking. If a concept. law or quote doesn't tie back directly to OT, it's unacceptable. 6) No. After the WWII Holocaust, many Jews turned away from religion. However, advanced study of the OT may ""justify"" the Holocaust.
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onthemoney90 4 months ago
@maxavail 1) of 3 Good questions! 1) "J" is the second word starting with 'J' in the title above. 2) & 3) Purpose of the Temple was so G-d (His Dream) could establish an abode in the lower worlds (ie. Earth). The spiritual presence of G-d resided in the "Holy of Holies" in the Temple. The Offerings were something special that G-d (who doesn't really need them) accepts.
Judaism ALWAYS needs the Temple since the presence of G-d resides in the Temple and Earth becomes in spiritual harmony with G-d
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maxavail 4 months ago
@onthemoney90 1) God accepted burnt offerings but why did He ask for them ?
2) You still didn't tell me why the Rabbis concluded that burnt offerings are not necessary until after the Romans destroyed the temple.
3) is post-Roman Judaism a direct revelation from God or simply an intellectual product of Rabbis ? If it's an intellectual product and not a direct revelation, why can't it be subject to logical scrutiny ?
maxavail 4 months ago
@onthemoney90 And number 4) Judaism does not value undeserved suffering, that's why I think many Jews saw no point in the Holocaust and thus became atheists. In contrast, Christianity strongly emphasizes on the benefits of undeserved suffering calling it nothing else than a means to salvation, because it makes a parallel to what we see as the undeserved suffering of Christ. You see how different this mentality is ? Hammering the Messianic Jews will only make them more determined and numerous.
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onthemoney90 4 months ago
@maxavail 1) of 2. Ur conclusions r interesting but don't follow Judaic teaching or belief (xcept ignorant PPL). I'm not holding this against u. It's clear from ur questions, u know little about Judaism, yet u feel able to make major judgements about it's intricacies (ie. Judaism) & compare it to Xtianity (a funny idea). Anything Xtian is "borrowed" from Judaism as some of ur ideas show. I'm not an Evangelist trying to convert people to Judaism & can't respond to a million questions.
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@onthemoney90 continuation...6) "I can't respond to a million questions."
Doesn't that worry you ?
7) I am concerned about the bias in your judgment. Any man unable to write "Jesus" or "Christianity" or who thinks an attempt to compare one religion to another is a joke is clearly not free of prejudice. I strongly believe in the virtue of reason and advocate for its suspension only when considering God, not opinions of men, may they be even religious authorities.
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@maxavail The essence of religion does not always follow logic. Rather there are divine laws and commandments. Puny human logic and G-d's thoughts are not the same. What you're basically suggesting is that unless G-d makes sense to you, u will be ignoring G-d. That doesn't makes sense!
onthemoney90 5 months ago
Xtianity is the religion of ""J"". Carefully read what I said in my latest Post. "A person had to repent (by prayer) to be forgiven; That's the essence of the temple offerings. After seriously repenting they did an offering." Before, During & After the Temple's existence, if one didn't repent properly, the Offering was useless! G-d doesn't need Offerings. In the absence of the Temple, Judaism did the part that was there in the first place (& in Hosea) ie. PRAYER. Judaism makes sense, do u?
onthemoney90 5 months ago
@onthemoney90 1) Who is "J" ? Judah ben Hur ?
2) Why did God command the Jews to bring burnt offerings if prayer was enough ?
3) Why did the Rabbis come to the conclusion that they didn't need the temple only after the Romans destroyed it ? Coincidence ?
4) Isn't denial of your God given common sense (a.k.a. logic) against God ?
5) Doesn't denial of logic make you vulnerable to manipulation and blind bigotry ?
6) Isn't persecution historically validated as the main engine for new conversions ?
maxavail 5 months ago
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onthemoney90 5 months ago
As far as "ownership" of G-d, no one can claim that. There were special Temple offerings for safety and wellbeing of the nations of the world. The O.T. says re; When messiah comes & the Temple is rebuilt - "And I will bring you (ie. nations of the world) to my holy mountain & you will rejoice in my house of prayer. Your "offerings" to be accepted on my altar. BECAUSE MY HOUSE IS A HOUSE OF PRAYER FOR ALL THE NATIONS". ie. ALL NATIONS! Judaism recognizes all monothestic religions too.
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onthemoney90 5 months ago
Why has a single doctrine become the only representative of today's Judaism ? And what is the doctrine of any other Jewish religious party from 2000 years ago if not Judaism ? Pharisees, Sadducees, Zealots, Essenes, Christians, they were all present 2000 years ago in Israel and not one of them claimed to be anything other than a Jewish doctrine.
Who gave the Orthodox Jews the right to claim ownership of Judaism ? "If you believe in Yeshua, you don't belong to the Jewish religion." Says who ?
maxavail 5 months ago
@maxavail What's your point EXACTLY?
onthemoney90 5 months ago
@onthemoney90 My point is quite clear, Orthodox Jews have no authority to claim ownership of the Hebrew God and to decide who is and who is not a Jew. That is not even an emotional argument, it simply derives from the observation that there are several religious parties who are made of ethnic Jews and who claim to be nothing else than Jewish doctrines.
maxavail 5 months ago
@maxavail How do u arrive at that conclusion? An Ortho Jew is one who follows the 613 laws of the O.T. As the O.T. clearly spelled these out. Those laws and their interpretations were passe down from Moses & G-d, till today (ie. the "Mesora" as written in the O.T. & interpreted by Moses & G-d, as written in "Jethro"). Based on your idea, where does that put Xtianity? Answer: In a very deep hole. Many Senior Xtian clergy converted to Judaism; they saw the light after studying Judaism properly.
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