hey, my progressive rock band cold use some votes to help us out in this battle of the bands. if we are chosen, we get to open up at a huge outdoor venue in september for some established hard rock bands. thanks.
No reverb ! very strange... And strange feeling. Solo part : Mike + Phil + Tony. It seems Peter and Steve have left the band in advance. We can feel the communication between these 3 musiciens is perfect. This will be the definitive band few years later... Without any poetry on stage.
If you interpret this song correctly it is true poetry that rivals the great english masters such as Donne and Spenser, a modern classic that will recognize the brillance of Gabriel and early Gensis.
I don't know why, but for me I would consider Coheed & Cambria the equivalent of what Genesis was in their time, just something about them really seems to remind me of the either, it's almost inexplicable.
..now this piece of LIVE work would change the life of anyone present. The projection of Art Women in the back was just breath takingly beautifull. Mona Lisa, Lady and the Hermine, Venus de Milo, Boticelli, etc. There was not a dry eye in the audience I swear ! So intense, so moving, so powerful
@ballisticbliss Yes he is. Underrated. Problem is once he started singing in 1977, even still playing the drums, that is when Genesis popoularity soared and his drum skills were not as recognized. FANTASTIC hi-hat work. Yes I'm a drummer
malade! il parle francais c'est pas pour rien...c'est une belle langue et Peter trouves aussi !lolz dire que mon père etait a ce show ici a Mtl, a l'age de 19 ans ! et que moi j'écoute ca maintenant!:)
He says ; Now a story of Love. The man's is Romeo . He has on a fig leaf. He takes it off and eats it. It produces in him an enormous sexual excitement. He sees Juliet immediately on her balcony. She sings.. (very prettily) blah blah blah, and Romeo takes Juliet and transports her in obscurity to a place in the cinema called "the Cinema Show".
@amazrand - don't blame rap - blame U2 - their simplicity has rubbed off on every band nowadays - they are not players - and because of that no band can play their bloody instruments nowadays!
@Xanaseb - there's so much crap played nowadays cause all the bands copy U2.
Personally, I think the best band from the last ten years is Coldplay and I think they're probably the equivalent of early Genesis to kids today - but the only downfall is that they copy U2 also!
As for Joshua tree being complex - 'where the streets have no name' and 'I still haven't found what I'm looking for' are chords 1,4 and 5 - 'with or without you' is chords 1,4, 5 and 6 - hardly Van der graaf generator is it!?
@NeilThompson30 Yeah I suppose you're right. I of course believe as you that "popular" music now adays is a load of crap. I'm not convinced that U2 caused it though. If you're talking about modern mainstream "rock" then certainly yes, but stuff like crap&b, bloody girl and boy group/singers probably weren't inspired by U2. Music would have degressed in the same way if U2 hadn't existed. The old progressive and inivative stuff far surpasses anything heard today to refer to the core of the matter
@NeilThompson30 There was a lot of shoite around in the early seventies too. Im sure there are some videos of Top of the Pops (UK TV show) on here. If you werent around then it`ll get you up to speed!!
@chanctonbury63 - Of course I was around - you're right - but you hit the nail right on the head when you mentioned top of the pops - Pop music died for me in October 1970 - when Ride a white swan by T. Rex was released - but the 70s was great for rock music - right up to November 1980 - U2 released their first album and there was also the death knell for all music in the same month - Spandau bloody Ballet released their first single - the end of music as we knew and loved it.
Rutherford has various doublenecks with 12-string guitars and bass. When he's playing the guitar parts, he plays bass parts on the Taurus bass pedals.
This footage is priceless just for the opportunity to see Collins play the instrumental bit. Totally mind-blowing, and he makes it look so fun and effortless.
Well, there *was* almost everything he did after 1982 or so...still, it's true. You can never take the fact that he is a god-like musician away from him, only perhaps bemoan the waste of that talent from the early 80s on.
thats because prog rock conquers all music today....look at all the new music today it was somehow spawned from prog. Even the use of syths in rap and hip hop. You think they'd be around without prog ? Nope.
Genesis at its best! When people tell me some cheap singer like... i don't... rihanna or beyonce have an "ethereal" voice. (yeah I already heard that). Well, I say, they've never heard genesis then.
One unique band who did it their way. Where didit all go wrong? Trick of the tail I think. Clinical and perfect, it could have been written and produced by a computer. After that...? Rubbish!
I never liked the way they ended this song live. The transition from this song into Aisle of Plenty is one of the most beautiful moments on Selling England...I don't know why they opted to do it differently on stage.
Awesome find! I'd love to listen to every live track Genesis ever recorded, particularly The Cinema Show. But Yowsa - not a good night for Tony on this take! He was rushing like crazy and tripping up all over the place. Mike and Phil were having to play catch-up to him at every twist and turn....
Dieu et mon droit ! The language of the ancient noble Englishmen, in Charterhouse they learn French and a lot of French History, no wonder Pete speaks it fluently, actually, Phill speaks it and very good, many of Steve's song titles and verses are in French ( Satie's influence )
How I wish they could get together again, a new tour and a new album ( the five of them! ) NAAAAAAH ! That'll never happen, I might as well keep enjoying my old Hackett-Gabriel Genesis albums and wonderful postings!
Le souci de plaire à son auditoire et l'apprentissage d'une langue seconde ne représentaient en rien un défi pour ce grand artiste que les Québécois ont admiré et adoré tout au long de sa fructueuse carrière... Les saxons auraient dû l'imiter plus souvent. Cette prestation au Centre sportif de L'U de MONTRÉAL est l'un des plus beaux moments de ma vie... Ce vidéo en donne une petite idée...
do you think the band insisted he did the first part in spoken word french? also the second bit is a different gig. Also in this song they sing the same bit twice - about the auld get that changed gender when he beat two copulating snakes, surely they could have sang another verse and told us more of the legend as it were. When gabes left they (Banks) wanted the band to be instrumental - this is what it would be like for 2 hours - might as well be spirogyra or shakatak in the Hilton lounge :-)
This is my favorite Genesis before Peter Gabriel left the band.
cslan4 1 week ago
Then what happened to Collins?
SixSioux 1 month ago
@PokerPlum I think it sounds better than anything out there today by a huge margin, but I think we're both in basic agreement: it's awesome. :)
genesis1975 4 months ago
@PokerPlum Almost?
genesis1975 4 months ago
One of the best ever live songs by Genesis. I still prefer the '76 version with Bill Bruford on drums, though.
scifiwriter98 4 months ago
hey, my progressive rock band cold use some votes to help us out in this battle of the bands. if we are chosen, we get to open up at a huge outdoor venue in september for some established hard rock bands. thanks.
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artstarnyc1 6 months ago
Great performance...but God, the quality sucks.
iloverush123 7 months ago
No reverb ! very strange... And strange feeling. Solo part : Mike + Phil + Tony. It seems Peter and Steve have left the band in advance. We can feel the communication between these 3 musiciens is perfect. This will be the definitive band few years later... Without any poetry on stage.
uptocom 7 months ago
true that
lilbeertnbrn 8 months ago
Grande musica ,...!!!!
caopitada 8 months ago
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6:54 this is the phil collins that i like. behind drums
lorenic95 9 months ago
6:04 this is the phil collins that i like. behind drums
lorenic95 9 months ago 4
why is the Montréal show called The Black Show?
MrSacapus 9 months ago
If you interpret this song correctly it is true poetry that rivals the great english masters such as Donne and Spenser, a modern classic that will recognize the brillance of Gabriel and early Gensis.
kirkjans 10 months ago
This is Great Footage for a Great song !
sturoc0 10 months ago
COME TAKE A LOOK A TOUR BAND : TYPE OVERHEAD-MUZ ON MYSPACE. THANKS !
Sim2428 10 months ago
@PokerPlum This was before we needed computers to be musicians. God i wish i was born in the fifties/sixties.
bananeskit 11 months ago
God, how colossal is Phil's drumming here
JanineRobin 11 months ago 3
@JanineRobin yes !! thru Duke
frododarg 11 months ago
Why oh why can't this stuff be released officially and in proper format???? Led Zep managed it!!!!!...
auroristony48 1 year ago
@auroristony48 There's a boxset of stuff like this around. You can either get Gabriel era or Phil era (or you could get both I suppose)
MasterYumyums 10 months ago
Sympathyfortheblues*
sympathyfortheblues 1 year ago
Almost prophetic in an odd way, highlighting Phil, Mike and Tony in this piece.
kamwrites 1 year ago
Auch nach 32 Jahren immer noch das höchste für mich. Unerreichbar ! Fantastisch,
ich fahr einfach nur ab...
derlahol 1 year ago
wew... lagu ini pertama kali rasanya terdengar aneh... tapi lama-lama kok wheeeenakk tenan....sound drum'nya keren banget...
phervai 1 year ago
wew... lagu ini pertama kali rasanya terdengar aneh... tapi lama-lama kok wheeeenakk tenan....
phervai 1 year ago
I don't know why, but for me I would consider Coheed & Cambria the equivalent of what Genesis was in their time, just something about them really seems to remind me of the either, it's almost inexplicable.
dummbatz48 1 year ago
It's one of the most incredible music I have ever heard.
Vesohag 1 year ago
..now this piece of LIVE work would change the life of anyone present. The projection of Art Women in the back was just breath takingly beautifull. Mona Lisa, Lady and the Hermine, Venus de Milo, Boticelli, etc. There was not a dry eye in the audience I swear ! So intense, so moving, so powerful
pierre766 1 year ago
I'd also blame Nirvana for today's crappy music
Krilu56 1 year ago 2
@Krilu56 at least nirvana played a major role in killing 80's hair metal
WizardofFuzz 1 year ago
@PokerPlum correction - everything
Xanaseb 1 year ago
you wont find music of this quality today. i find a lot of todays music just plain sucks bigtime
digger380 1 year ago
Band of bands !
videocanone 1 year ago
Trop fort !! Il parle francais... et son histoire est franchement conne ! XD
Mais quel bonne chanson par contre :O!
matstar19 1 year ago
I love how Peter says the whole intro in an accent and reverts to his normal voice when he says "The Cinema Show"
EtemTatar 1 year ago
boy was he strange.. Lady gaga has nothing on this guy
klepetar 1 year ago 12
lines like once a man like the sea i raged ...once a woman like the earth i gave...but there is in fact more earth than sea....awesome
tonycfl123 1 year ago
i'm kinda happy that tony banks doesn't have a cape :P
abducteddonut 1 year ago
Phil collins is one of the greatest drummers EVER!!!
ballisticbliss 1 year ago
@ballisticbliss Yes he is. Underrated. Problem is once he started singing in 1977, even still playing the drums, that is when Genesis popoularity soared and his drum skills were not as recognized. FANTASTIC hi-hat work. Yes I'm a drummer
guijam94 1 year ago 3
Du vrai Genesis pure, et pour les nouveau c'est Phil Collins a la batteries.
WORFMYDOG 1 year ago
malade! il parle francais c'est pas pour rien...c'est une belle langue et Peter trouves aussi !lolz dire que mon père etait a ce show ici a Mtl, a l'age de 19 ans ! et que moi j'écoute ca maintenant!:)
shortyzsweet 1 year ago 2
Mon père aussi était au spectacle :D Et j'écoute sa moi aussi.. C'est trop bon du Genesis !
matstar19 1 year ago
@matstar19 wow! j'aime ca que tu écoute ca haha:D t'a du gout et mon pere a p-e croiser le tien hihi:P
shortyzsweet 1 year ago
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shortyzsweet 1 year ago
trop fort pour la ligue.........
bbobb84 2 years ago 2
Can anyone translate the opening?
nbelsky 2 years ago
He says ; Now a story of Love. The man's is Romeo . He has on a fig leaf. He takes it off and eats it. It produces in him an enormous sexual excitement. He sees Juliet immediately on her balcony. She sings.. (very prettily) blah blah blah, and Romeo takes Juliet and transports her in obscurity to a place in the cinema called "the Cinema Show".
rebeccaboobot 2 years ago 27
Thank you!
nbelsky 2 years ago
@rebeccaboobot Thanks for the translation. Loved the song for many years. I never knew what Peter was saying. Only picked out a few words
vcasalnova 10 months ago
THE keyboardman!
finderil 2 years ago
This just blows my mind- How in the hell did the music scene ever go from genius to rap? Thanx for posting
amazrand 2 years ago 2
@amazrand
Well, at about the same time as this, you could be buying KISS records or the Bay City Rollers. KISS was a lot like these freakin rappers.
prahudka 2 years ago
Yeah, I see your point- Guess, I just cant find anything new that compares to this
amazrand 2 years ago
There's much more than rap and mainstream pop these days. Some poeple are just too lazy and disinterested to look for beyond their backyards.
BTW Genesis wasn't either that big commercially in the good old days, and i couldn't care less.
sisibilio 2 years ago
Genius Is Pain
EyMeng 2 years ago
@amazrand - don't blame rap - blame U2 - their simplicity has rubbed off on every band nowadays - they are not players - and because of that no band can play their bloody instruments nowadays!
NeilThompson30 1 year ago
@NeilThompson30 U2 was much better than any of the crap played nowadays. And The Joshua Tree is reasonably complex!
Xanaseb 1 year ago 2
@Xanaseb - there's so much crap played nowadays cause all the bands copy U2.
Personally, I think the best band from the last ten years is Coldplay and I think they're probably the equivalent of early Genesis to kids today - but the only downfall is that they copy U2 also!
As for Joshua tree being complex - 'where the streets have no name' and 'I still haven't found what I'm looking for' are chords 1,4 and 5 - 'with or without you' is chords 1,4, 5 and 6 - hardly Van der graaf generator is it!?
NeilThompson30 1 year ago
@NeilThompson30 Yeah I suppose you're right. I of course believe as you that "popular" music now adays is a load of crap. I'm not convinced that U2 caused it though. If you're talking about modern mainstream "rock" then certainly yes, but stuff like crap&b, bloody girl and boy group/singers probably weren't inspired by U2. Music would have degressed in the same way if U2 hadn't existed. The old progressive and inivative stuff far surpasses anything heard today to refer to the core of the matter
Xanaseb 1 year ago
@NeilThompson30 There was a lot of shoite around in the early seventies too. Im sure there are some videos of Top of the Pops (UK TV show) on here. If you werent around then it`ll get you up to speed!!
chanctonbury63 11 months ago
@chanctonbury63 - Of course I was around - you're right - but you hit the nail right on the head when you mentioned top of the pops - Pop music died for me in October 1970 - when Ride a white swan by T. Rex was released - but the 70s was great for rock music - right up to November 1980 - U2 released their first album and there was also the death knell for all music in the same month - Spandau bloody Ballet released their first single - the end of music as we knew and loved it.
NeilThompson30 11 months ago
Hey Magog where the hell did you get this footage.
wlines 2 years ago
who plays bass when ruderford is playing guitar?
ElFlakoRompanTodo 2 years ago
steve hacket
theblueoz 2 years ago
i meant live
ElFlakoRompanTodo 2 years ago
Rutherford has various doublenecks with 12-string guitars and bass. When he's playing the guitar parts, he plays bass parts on the Taurus bass pedals.
mfnickster 2 years ago
Oh, and of course after Steve left, they got Daryl Stuermer to play live. Daryl plays bass and guitar, whereas Steve did not play bass.
mfnickster 2 years ago
This footage is priceless just for the opportunity to see Collins play the instrumental bit. Totally mind-blowing, and he makes it look so fun and effortless.
mtopper66 2 years ago 3
Unbelievable. I grow tired of the knocking on Phil.
RockyG1978 2 years ago
Well, there *was* almost everything he did after 1982 or so...still, it's true. You can never take the fact that he is a god-like musician away from him, only perhaps bemoan the waste of that talent from the early 80s on.
mtopper66 2 years ago
thats because prog rock conquers all music today....look at all the new music today it was somehow spawned from prog. Even the use of syths in rap and hip hop. You think they'd be around without prog ? Nope.
SRNF 2 years ago 2
Le speech de Gabriel en français au début est hilarant !
frankymass 2 years ago 3
Such a beautiful guitar job from Hacket...
what a band!
ScudoBR 2 years ago 5
GRAN TEMA Y GRAN GRUPO
jorgealbertobaron 2 years ago
come non emozionarsi?...
sharakkone 2 years ago
Genesis at its best! When people tell me some cheap singer like... i don't... rihanna or beyonce have an "ethereal" voice. (yeah I already heard that). Well, I say, they've never heard genesis then.
juiaob 2 years ago 2
Steve Hackett plays beautifully on this.
timaho1962 2 years ago 2
He always play beautifully.
2c26 2 years ago 2
He's the best guitar player ever.
integration1000 2 years ago 5
Yeap! :)
2c26 2 years ago
But don't forget Jimi Hendrix!
2c26 2 years ago
One unique band who did it their way. Where didit all go wrong? Trick of the tail I think. Clinical and perfect, it could have been written and produced by a computer. After that...? Rubbish!
propman1234 2 years ago 2
I never liked the way they ended this song live. The transition from this song into Aisle of Plenty is one of the most beautiful moments on Selling England...I don't know why they opted to do it differently on stage.
jhillst 2 years ago
the second part reminds me a little bit of the tour the france of Kraftwerk but maybe I'm wrong
Satiaraha 2 years ago
Il parle Francais lol XD
matstar19 2 years ago
Sweet I didn't realize that he did. He ain't bad at it either.
cril1001001 2 years ago
Do you think Peter will do one more tour?
ueffect 2 years ago
phil absolutely cant w/ his hearing loss
mike and tony have always been open to it
all three (esp peter) , have 2009-10 projects
if you read between the lines of last years interveiws i would bet good money on a limited
city tour in the next couple years but not a
major one - the fuss would come down to the
set list
frododarg 2 years ago
a 5:30 analogic synth = good sound , natural sound of the oscillator
No computer music
baia61 2 years ago 4
Funny you should say that, because at the time, such analog sounds were criticized for being 'unnatural' and 'computerized' :)
mfnickster 2 years ago 3
Awesome find! I'd love to listen to every live track Genesis ever recorded, particularly The Cinema Show. But Yowsa - not a good night for Tony on this take! He was rushing like crazy and tripping up all over the place. Mike and Phil were having to play catch-up to him at every twist and turn....
bbqboyee 2 years ago
Dieu et mon droit ! The language of the ancient noble Englishmen, in Charterhouse they learn French and a lot of French History, no wonder Pete speaks it fluently, actually, Phill speaks it and very good, many of Steve's song titles and verses are in French ( Satie's influence )
How I wish they could get together again, a new tour and a new album ( the five of them! ) NAAAAAAH ! That'll never happen, I might as well keep enjoying my old Hackett-Gabriel Genesis albums and wonderful postings!
trevizons 2 years ago 3
ça sonnait comme du yes dans les 70's
acdc126 3 years ago
Grazie per questo video! SuperCollins suona tutto in controtempo,solo lui sa suonare cosi'spontaneamente.
baia61 3 years ago 3
To me, this is the most amazing band ever. There is so much in the way of great music, but none as stunning as this.
shawniemar 3 years ago
goes without comment..just listen
bigtimehammer 3 years ago
is there any original audio?
Kazekane 3 years ago
Magister!!!! no sólo se extraña la música sino el signo de esos tiempos, todo era posible, Buenos Aires era puro rock aleatorio
adios buenos tiempos.
oski48v 3 years ago
Le souci de plaire à son auditoire et l'apprentissage d'une langue seconde ne représentaient en rien un défi pour ce grand artiste que les Québécois ont admiré et adoré tout au long de sa fructueuse carrière... Les saxons auraient dû l'imiter plus souvent. Cette prestation au Centre sportif de L'U de MONTRÉAL est l'un des plus beaux moments de ma vie... Ce vidéo en donne une petite idée...
pierre766 3 years ago 3
do you think the band insisted he did the first part in spoken word french? also the second bit is a different gig. Also in this song they sing the same bit twice - about the auld get that changed gender when he beat two copulating snakes, surely they could have sang another verse and told us more of the legend as it were. When gabes left they (Banks) wanted the band to be instrumental - this is what it would be like for 2 hours - might as well be spirogyra or shakatak in the Hilton lounge :-)
sandprof 3 years ago
I think he spoke the opening in whatever language the city spoke where they were playing.
I saw him do this opening in Japanese in another video!
Squammish 3 years ago
why do they play it that slow?
dayofphoenix 3 years ago
excellent...quality all the way & Phill was amazing as usual, faultless
phillintheuk1 3 years ago 3
la piú grande band di tutti i tempi!!!
igiuzzo 3 years ago
what a gem!
captaincomputa 3 years ago 2