@B2UTySaranghae Hola... lo siento mi espanol no es muy bueno (aprendi a la Universidad de Michigan... diez anos en el pasado...) pero me pienso los videos de Simon y Martina tuvieran subtitulos en espanol? Aqui; eatyourkimchi . com
@Shinheeful Because legally, foreigners cannot start companies in Korea (I don't know if this depends on citizenship or not). They need a Korean to sign all the documents and hold the position of business owner in order to let a foreigner run a company.
@Shinheeful Tell that to the Vice President of Design at Hyundai. I don't know if he's still there, but he was from Australia or New Zealand. How many foreigners speak Korean well enough to lead a Korean company? You don't hear Koreans feeling entitled to top management jobs in the U.S. if they aren't native speakers. It's just common sense.
History of Korea, Korea Culture If you do not understand, do not talk I do not understand culture of other countries, do not talk about it South Korea is a country in respect of the safe and clean If the interest in understanding the Drop It is best to travel to foreign countries, but South Korea I understand the culture of other countries because it was time we do not have to
I'm love that Korea is all about respect. In your opinion or to you it may seem as a bad thing, but to many Koreans they prefer it to be that way. When they see how Americans are, they think its rude. The way students act here to teachers or parents is disgusting. Working is emphasized but thats why Korea became one of the most fastest developed countries. The ones that want to leave are like the Koreans here who want to leave for Korea. They have benefits that Americans dont and vice versa.
@acting303 You seem mistaken. Koreans who speak English well enough enjoy the freedom that speaking English gives them, because they can treat everyone equally. They may think some Americans are rude, but that's based on individuals' behavior, not societal customs. I don't think you know many Koreans.
@p00lman I am Korean, and i visit Korea frequently. Of course Koreans want to learn english, its a universal language it has many benefits, I never said Koreans dont enjoy english. Many that come over to the US say the ways are more rude or the way people greet or dont greet, the way workers treat customers, students behaviors to teachers... etc. But they realize its just American culture certain social standards in Korea are not met here. to Koreans its a lack of what is ideal behavior to them
@acting303 I've met exactly one person who echoed your feelings, and she got hit by a car in the US and had to endure the terrible US medical system. No one else has ever told me that American customs and standards are rude and disgusting. Individuals may act that way, but I haven't met anyone who painted the entire culture as "rude and disgusting" due to a few bad individuals. I'm sorry you aren't enjoying your experience there.
@p00lman Hmm, that's funny. Because I've heard it said by Koreans who come experience American culture. While they do like some things, like kindness to strangers & things like that, it can cause major culture shock to see the lack of cultural norms in terms of respect for parents, teachers, etc. in the U.S. While I think it's great to not encourage blind obedience, I can also see drawbacks to the lack of uniform expectations re:respect across society.
@p00lman well I can surely say that the lack of discipline in US/Canadian schools are to the point that it makes it hard for everybody to learn and teaching becomes ineffective (my english teacher in HS carried a cowbell b/c of a troublemaker in class). I think that's more because of the culture and not the language necessarily. Personally I think the middle would be good, like between Korea and the US. I find interactions in US to be more frank. The same goes for foreigners in Korea.
I think that "hard-work" is part of korean culture and asian culture in general, I'm french and I see that the relationship people/work, and how they deal with it, it is totally different, maybe it's because Korea had to change in order to become one of the country who has the most powerfull and solid economy when Korea was one of the poorest country in the 1960...I think that's why "hard work" became an important value of K society, it was necesary in order to get to that point...no?
@boubou813 Far more lool I'm surprise when some people fail to realise that the entertainment industry is only a segment of Korea how important or influential it is is debatable.
@hannah60000 influential I think it is with all the "hallyu wave" thing, another way to get people want to learn more about this country... I guess it's a funnier way than through diplomatic issues or economic issues....
There are so many different ways korea can be viewed.. but I guess it's the same for other countries too... oh and btw i just noticed-- YOUR BACKGROUND CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE VIDEO!!! woah
I suppose that I've been said about it to you, it's a same thing with a survival game which made by..and is mading by a small number of people in Korea.
@JustPlainGirl ME i am korean,when i was 15 i went back and... one thing.I-HATE-IT... i couldn't stand the pressure people were extremely rude.i only lasted 8 months there. move back to the u.s. never ever moving over there. i like to visit tho.
@SuperSkyheart2 College is similar to college anywhere, in terms of class schedules. The only difference, in my opinion, is how hard students study for exams. I'm not sure if so much studying is necessary or if it's just habits from how they've always gone about studying, but they study a LOT.
and without the whole competitiveness and the extreme work nature that Koreans learned to adapt post Korean war... Korea might not even be in the state it is in now economically. Of course, when you spend too much time renovating the outside of your house you notice that your plumbing and everything else on the inside needs changing. Korea needs time to reflect on itself, stop for a moment and see what it can fix on the inside, esp the societal structures & education before modernizing further.
Korea is a tough place to live, but that is also because the welfare and the basic benefits that a regular person might have and take for granted in the developed world aren't provided to Koreans, such as adequate pension and support for families with +2 children, etc... Women don't get much support from their jobs when they are pregnant... but I believe with the recent trends Korea will be able to provide its citizens what it needs. it just needs a lot of tweaking. maybe in the next 5 yrs...
but to those who want to leave Korea... it's mostly their children who will benefit from the lifestyle changes, not the actual parents. Unless your English skills are good or you have a job the countries think is good, most 1st gens end up working in stores, or have their own business that are considered a typical working class-type jobs like laundrymats.. mothers work in restaurants as assistant cooks or store cashiers..
the children get a great education, and a more relaxed lifestyle, but I haven't seen many 1st gens really enjoying their new immigrated life.. it's the same as in Korea. when their child succeeds in the new country, they're happy. A lot of Korean families end up sending their kids to SAT academies and such.. it's a bit of a watered down version of their life in Korea... but personally I have noticed that it isn't a completely happy life for many people, especially women
@tokee1234567 and most end up being in Korean communities or go to Korean churches which is a mini version of Korean society itself. My family went to a Korean church where there was a noticeable power structure between the church officials and the non-citizens always felt like they didn't really belong amongst the "citizen/ eagle status(the way the gyopos call themselves in the place I live)." Once again, it's all about the individual perspective I suppose.
When I was teaching in Korea I liked my job and liked living in Korea, but I did not envy the Korean teachers who came in earlier than me, stayed later, and had more responsibilities.
@JustPlainGirl I'm a Korean who grew up outside Korea but I will be going back to Korea this February. I'm going to start posting stuff about Korea on my youtube channel. I think I might start a blog too.
@JustPlainGirl Hey, I've lived abroad most of my life and went back to Korea last winter. I've also went to a Korean high school for a year. Well, I felt really stressed about the education system, but it was do-able. In fact my sister did better than most students who lived in Korea. So, it really depends on individual. But, the thing is an average Korean would do better when they go abroad from my perspective. As for respecting your elders, at first I didn't like it,
@JustPlainGirl some people just don't deserve respect. But right now I think its a good thing. I feel it would be more awkward to not respect them -.- Mmm but rejecting isn't that hard.
@JustPlainGirl ME i am korean,when i was 15 i went back and... one thing.I-HATE-IT... i couldn't stand the pressure people were extremely rude.i only lasted 8 months there. move back to the u.s. never ever moving over there. i like to visit tho.
@JustPlainGirl I grew up in USA since 13. I seriously considered going back to Korea number of times b/c I was offered 6 figure(USD) salary; I speak perfect(to Korean ears anyway) 깍쟁이 백인 English ><;;
Unfortunately Korean work place requires 1) way too much 눈치보기 than a typical American one, and 2) certain life style choices, ie I will have to get married or be very serious about it.
So I am looking for consulting gigs, but that concept seems rather still foreign to them.
some korean companies that are overseas try to make their employees work those long hours ,sometimes illegally too as it violates the local labor laws in the country they are doing business in
i was like, why do we need a whole new language to show repect to each other WHY!!! and btw did you have a breakfast at marriot this morning?? cua i swear i saw you there, if you didnt then im jus letting you know, theres someone that looks identical to you here in seoul.
only adult korean ppl i had to deal with were my parents, and im here working, and i got into so many troubles with co-workers, I dont mean to be disrespecting others but seems they have problem with everything i say. its got better with time but i had a really tough time in the beginning
Oh OH Oh my goshh thank you so much for making a video about this topic!!! I am working in korea for the first time in my life, and i never had to deal with the whole respecting the older and more experienced ppl.
I understand how tedious work can become on your life especially if you have long hours, my last job I was thankfully only working 5 days a week but generally I was happy if I only had a 10 hour day and could get home before 8pm after having been up at 4:30-5:00am. I felt like I didn't have a life at all the whole time because even on weekends all I wanted to do was sleep or watch movies because I'd been doing physical work on my feet non-stop all week.
i had many korean friends and YES they r busy all the time so i only talke to them maybe once a week or a month ... first i didn't understand they dont have a second to send txt at least say (Hi ) or something ?? !! ... but i realize later .... hhhhhh . but i understand now ... anyway i love korea and i hope i can come in the summer ^^
@poopyskidmark Your post should be called, "how to get banned in five seconds."
p00lman 1 week ago
@B2UTySaranghae Hola... lo siento mi espanol no es muy bueno (aprendi a la Universidad de Michigan... diez anos en el pasado...) pero me pienso los videos de Simon y Martina tuvieran subtitulos en espanol? Aqui; eatyourkimchi . com
caribearkiss 3 weeks ago
And yet, no foreigners are given top management jobs unless it's foreign companies. :D
Shinheeful 3 weeks ago
@Shinheeful Because legally, foreigners cannot start companies in Korea (I don't know if this depends on citizenship or not). They need a Korean to sign all the documents and hold the position of business owner in order to let a foreigner run a company.
p00lman 3 weeks ago
@Shinheeful Tell that to the Vice President of Design at Hyundai. I don't know if he's still there, but he was from Australia or New Zealand. How many foreigners speak Korean well enough to lead a Korean company? You don't hear Koreans feeling entitled to top management jobs in the U.S. if they aren't native speakers. It's just common sense.
jstele 3 weeks ago
History of Korea, Korea Culture If you do not understand, do not talk I do not understand culture of other countries, do not talk about it South Korea is a country in respect of the safe and clean If the interest in understanding the Drop It is best to travel to foreign countries, but South Korea I understand the culture of other countries because it was time we do not have to
wonmo28 3 weeks ago in playlist About Korea
@wonmo28 Sorry, I don't understand what you've written.
p00lman 3 weeks ago
So detail !
MePracticingEnglish 4 weeks ago
I'm love that Korea is all about respect. In your opinion or to you it may seem as a bad thing, but to many Koreans they prefer it to be that way. When they see how Americans are, they think its rude. The way students act here to teachers or parents is disgusting. Working is emphasized but thats why Korea became one of the most fastest developed countries. The ones that want to leave are like the Koreans here who want to leave for Korea. They have benefits that Americans dont and vice versa.
acting303 4 weeks ago
@acting303 You seem mistaken. Koreans who speak English well enough enjoy the freedom that speaking English gives them, because they can treat everyone equally. They may think some Americans are rude, but that's based on individuals' behavior, not societal customs. I don't think you know many Koreans.
p00lman 4 weeks ago
@p00lman I am Korean, and i visit Korea frequently. Of course Koreans want to learn english, its a universal language it has many benefits, I never said Koreans dont enjoy english. Many that come over to the US say the ways are more rude or the way people greet or dont greet, the way workers treat customers, students behaviors to teachers... etc. But they realize its just American culture certain social standards in Korea are not met here. to Koreans its a lack of what is ideal behavior to them
acting303 4 weeks ago
@acting303 I've met exactly one person who echoed your feelings, and she got hit by a car in the US and had to endure the terrible US medical system. No one else has ever told me that American customs and standards are rude and disgusting. Individuals may act that way, but I haven't met anyone who painted the entire culture as "rude and disgusting" due to a few bad individuals. I'm sorry you aren't enjoying your experience there.
p00lman 4 weeks ago
@p00lman Hmm, that's funny. Because I've heard it said by Koreans who come experience American culture. While they do like some things, like kindness to strangers & things like that, it can cause major culture shock to see the lack of cultural norms in terms of respect for parents, teachers, etc. in the U.S. While I think it's great to not encourage blind obedience, I can also see drawbacks to the lack of uniform expectations re:respect across society.
jadujen 4 weeks ago
@p00lman well I can surely say that the lack of discipline in US/Canadian schools are to the point that it makes it hard for everybody to learn and teaching becomes ineffective (my english teacher in HS carried a cowbell b/c of a troublemaker in class). I think that's more because of the culture and not the language necessarily. Personally I think the middle would be good, like between Korea and the US. I find interactions in US to be more frank. The same goes for foreigners in Korea.
tokee1234567 3 weeks ago
@tokee1234567 Your high school teacher was awesome. I love the cowbell.
p00lman 3 weeks ago
I think that "hard-work" is part of korean culture and asian culture in general, I'm french and I see that the relationship people/work, and how they deal with it, it is totally different, maybe it's because Korea had to change in order to become one of the country who has the most powerfull and solid economy when Korea was one of the poorest country in the 1960...I think that's why "hard work" became an important value of K society, it was necesary in order to get to that point...no?
boubou813 4 weeks ago
@boubou813 Yep, that's exactly one of the reasons people are used to working so hard.
p00lman 4 weeks ago
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boubou813 4 weeks ago
@boubou813 Far more lool I'm surprise when some people fail to realise that the entertainment industry is only a segment of Korea how important or influential it is is debatable.
hannah60000 4 weeks ago
@hannah60000 influential I think it is with all the "hallyu wave" thing, another way to get people want to learn more about this country... I guess it's a funnier way than through diplomatic issues or economic issues....
boubou813 4 weeks ago
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TaoTeChing00 4 weeks ago
There are so many different ways korea can be viewed.. but I guess it's the same for other countries too... oh and btw i just noticed-- YOUR BACKGROUND CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE VIDEO!!! woah
hyperndepressed 4 weeks ago
oh man you totally left the suckiest part of being korean...at least for guys: MANDATORY MILITARY SERVICE FOR 2 YEARS
kagoon0709 1 month ago
I suppose that I've been said about it to you, it's a same thing with a survival game which made by..and is mading by a small number of people in Korea.
Jej621 1 month ago
@JustPlainGirl ME i am korean,when i was 15 i went back and... one thing.I-HATE-IT... i couldn't stand the pressure people were extremely rude.i only lasted 8 months there. move back to the u.s. never ever moving over there. i like to visit tho.
ThePrettieminnie 1 month ago
mi ingles no es muy bueno, pude entender muy poco del video :(, me gustaría mucho que estos videos tuvieran subtitulos en español :D
B2UTySaranghae 1 month ago
school is 6 days a week?! O.O Is that the same for College? I was going to study there. I should have done more research.
SuperSkyheart2 1 month ago
@SuperSkyheart2 College is similar to college anywhere, in terms of class schedules. The only difference, in my opinion, is how hard students study for exams. I'm not sure if so much studying is necessary or if it's just habits from how they've always gone about studying, but they study a LOT.
p00lman 1 month ago
Instead of just taking the easy way out and leaving Korea, I think more Koreans need to stick it out and be part of the change.
GyopoGirl 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
@GyopoGirl Easier said than done.
p00lman 1 month ago 6
Many things are the same in Vietnam
binhan251 1 month ago
and without the whole competitiveness and the extreme work nature that Koreans learned to adapt post Korean war... Korea might not even be in the state it is in now economically. Of course, when you spend too much time renovating the outside of your house you notice that your plumbing and everything else on the inside needs changing. Korea needs time to reflect on itself, stop for a moment and see what it can fix on the inside, esp the societal structures & education before modernizing further.
tokee1234567 1 month ago
Korea is a tough place to live, but that is also because the welfare and the basic benefits that a regular person might have and take for granted in the developed world aren't provided to Koreans, such as adequate pension and support for families with +2 children, etc... Women don't get much support from their jobs when they are pregnant... but I believe with the recent trends Korea will be able to provide its citizens what it needs. it just needs a lot of tweaking. maybe in the next 5 yrs...
tokee1234567 1 month ago
but to those who want to leave Korea... it's mostly their children who will benefit from the lifestyle changes, not the actual parents. Unless your English skills are good or you have a job the countries think is good, most 1st gens end up working in stores, or have their own business that are considered a typical working class-type jobs like laundrymats.. mothers work in restaurants as assistant cooks or store cashiers..
tokee1234567 1 month ago
the children get a great education, and a more relaxed lifestyle, but I haven't seen many 1st gens really enjoying their new immigrated life.. it's the same as in Korea. when their child succeeds in the new country, they're happy. A lot of Korean families end up sending their kids to SAT academies and such.. it's a bit of a watered down version of their life in Korea... but personally I have noticed that it isn't a completely happy life for many people, especially women
tokee1234567 1 month ago
@tokee1234567 and most end up being in Korean communities or go to Korean churches which is a mini version of Korean society itself. My family went to a Korean church where there was a noticeable power structure between the church officials and the non-citizens always felt like they didn't really belong amongst the "citizen/ eagle status(the way the gyopos call themselves in the place I live)." Once again, it's all about the individual perspective I suppose.
tokee1234567 1 month ago
@tokee1234567 Yeah, opportunities for Koreans abroad is a whole other topic.
I just think comparisons aren't necessary for people to recognize that they're unhappy with their current living situation.
p00lman 1 month ago
omg that´s the way it is in MY WONDERFUL DREAMY SOUTHKOREA =(
MyadoOorableSiWon 1 month ago
@MyadoOorableSiWon Life isn't a k-drama.
p00lman 1 month ago 11
When I was teaching in Korea I liked my job and liked living in Korea, but I did not envy the Korean teachers who came in earlier than me, stayed later, and had more responsibilities.
ratyoke 1 month ago
This video pretty much explains why I like visiting Korea more than actually living in Korea.
gameshoes 1 month ago
awesome!
TheJCguitar 1 month ago
It sounds like everywhere else?
ShinjuRin86 1 month ago
Very interesting. Thank you for posting this.
countrygal0 1 month ago
@p00lman sounds like Korea really sucks! Makes me wonder even more why you are there.
GyopoGirl 1 month ago
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GyopoGirl 1 month ago
Do you know any Koreans who grew up outside of Korea and came to Korea as an adult? I'd be really interested to hear their perspective. :)
JustPlainGirl 1 month ago
@JustPlainGirl I'm a Korean who grew up outside Korea but I will be going back to Korea this February. I'm going to start posting stuff about Korea on my youtube channel. I think I might start a blog too.
GyopoGirl 1 month ago
@JustPlainGirl Hey, I've lived abroad most of my life and went back to Korea last winter. I've also went to a Korean high school for a year. Well, I felt really stressed about the education system, but it was do-able. In fact my sister did better than most students who lived in Korea. So, it really depends on individual. But, the thing is an average Korean would do better when they go abroad from my perspective. As for respecting your elders, at first I didn't like it,
WarnerBrosWannaB 1 month ago
@JustPlainGirl some people just don't deserve respect. But right now I think its a good thing. I feel it would be more awkward to not respect them -.- Mmm but rejecting isn't that hard.
WarnerBrosWannaB 1 month ago
@JustPlainGirl ME i am korean,when i was 15 i went back and... one thing.I-HATE-IT... i couldn't stand the pressure people were extremely rude.i only lasted 8 months there. move back to the u.s. never ever moving over there. i like to visit tho.
ThePrettieminnie 1 month ago
@JustPlainGirl I grew up in USA since 13. I seriously considered going back to Korea number of times b/c I was offered 6 figure(USD) salary; I speak perfect(to Korean ears anyway) 깍쟁이 백인 English ><;;
Unfortunately Korean work place requires 1) way too much 눈치보기 than a typical American one, and 2) certain life style choices, ie I will have to get married or be very serious about it.
So I am looking for consulting gigs, but that concept seems rather still foreign to them.
ikickss 4 weeks ago
Well spoken! ^~^
kirodragon12 1 month ago
Very insightful
I think you have a good understanding of Korean society
skim8441 1 month ago
some korean companies that are overseas try to make their employees work those long hours ,sometimes illegally too as it violates the local labor laws in the country they are doing business in
daewooparts 1 month ago
Wow.... this is interesting! I'm Thai and I would absolutely hate to have grown up there, etc. because it's the same reason as the koreans who left!
KJaems 1 month ago
i am way older and get no respect !
daewooparts 1 month ago
Excellent, excellent video, imo. Very insightful.
jadujen 1 month ago
Omg.. i got nothing to say... Wow.. you know what? It's almost 1am now and I'm on the subway heading home from work. Of course, I am Korean.
yesneema 1 month ago
I really like this video. Thanks a lot for sharing!
SlashitlikeSonic 1 month ago 2
i was like, why do we need a whole new language to show repect to each other WHY!!! and btw did you have a breakfast at marriot this morning?? cua i swear i saw you there, if you didnt then im jus letting you know, theres someone that looks identical to you here in seoul.
thwjd9292 1 month ago
@thwjd9292 It was probably him, he posted a few Marriot pictures on Facebook.
c0rse 1 month ago
only adult korean ppl i had to deal with were my parents, and im here working, and i got into so many troubles with co-workers, I dont mean to be disrespecting others but seems they have problem with everything i say. its got better with time but i had a really tough time in the beginning
thwjd9292 1 month ago
Oh OH Oh my goshh thank you so much for making a video about this topic!!! I am working in korea for the first time in my life, and i never had to deal with the whole respecting the older and more experienced ppl.
thwjd9292 1 month ago 2
very insightful. thanks for sharing.
YangJettYung 1 month ago
Uh...so... I guess I now kinda understand why everyone around me kept saying that they want to leave Korea when I was there... (._.)
And now that I understand, I'm now also kinda sad about going back to Korea soon... ㅠㅠ
lavinachic 1 month ago
I understand how tedious work can become on your life especially if you have long hours, my last job I was thankfully only working 5 days a week but generally I was happy if I only had a 10 hour day and could get home before 8pm after having been up at 4:30-5:00am. I felt like I didn't have a life at all the whole time because even on weekends all I wanted to do was sleep or watch movies because I'd been doing physical work on my feet non-stop all week.
Vaughnlesterinoz 1 month ago
i had many korean friends and YES they r busy all the time so i only talke to them maybe once a week or a month ... first i didn't understand they dont have a second to send txt at least say (Hi ) or something ?? !! ... but i realize later .... hhhhhh . but i understand now ... anyway i love korea and i hope i can come in the summer ^^
Anoodishealthy2020 1 month ago
wow nice video ^^
thank you for sharing ^-^
Anoodishealthy2020 1 month ago