@StellandBlood Switzerland is about freedom, not governement intervention and excessive regulations. Apparently you misunderstand facts: it is not because of Switzerland that there are corrupt politicians out there (how can you be so naive?). Therefore it is not up to the Swiss to act as the worlds haven of justice and judge who is corrupt or not. You sound just as most socialistic politicians: a cheap speech that puts responsabilities on others rather than on itself.
@pitermeyer I wouldn't bother with StellandBlood, judging by his/her other comments, s/he is borderline illiterate. Probably a teacher at some school in England.
Eh,in any case,it's not like the Swiss have any degree of control over their banks left,most Swiss banks are now managed by foreign directors,hence why so much black money is stashed.If Switzerland were to fall under a more centralized management like the Brussels,that would carry dire concequences for the European continent,or cross that out,the entire world.And I'm saying this as a Swiss who advocates a democratic E.U. that safeguards the interests of its citizens.
At last there is someone in Europe that understands the European problem AND the solution to solve it. I'm Swiss and I've always been fighting against Europe and its centralism which could eventually destroy us someday if we forget how lucky we are with our federal system in this mass of people being used by their governments like puppets. When Europe (and even countries all around the world) will have understood that federalism and direct democracy are THE solution, then life shall be better.
Good words, I'm Swiss and I'm against the EU the EURO and all the stuff which is similar to the USA. I don't want a European State like the USA. All countries should be free to decide what they want to do without telling Brussel about their politics.
@Mr5eXLove There is very little similarity in how the EU is governed and how the US is governed. Most Americans lament that our federal government is trying to model itself now on the EU by centralizing power in federal bureaucracy rather than in the state and local governments where it belongs.
Dan, again you like many other conservatives say the right things but acomplish none of it, the Tory party seems to say one thing and do another, I can only come to the conclusion that the Tory party has pet Eurosceptics it wheels out to talk a good game, whilst they continue the treachery of the Labour party, all mouth no trousers, if you are a Eurosceptic then why are you in a party that doesn't reflect your views.
I don't understand this debate as no one forced Britain to join the EU in the 70's. I am not saying that the EU is perfect because it's proved it's not and there are huge challenges to overcome. But some people who's writing here doesn't mention that Uk's economy (still) depends on how well (or bad) the EU economies go. Strategic British sectors as transports, energy and so on are run by EU companies. The Spanish bank Santander rescued some British banks. You won't be Switzerland, you are UK!
@MrBertmann85 Firstly, the EU of today is nothing like the proposition put forward in the 70s. Secondly, we also rely heavily on the American economy performing well, as it's our single biggest export destination, do we need a political union with America for that?
Whether it is possible to construct and unit Europe on democratic principles? Whether the person can interfere with evolutionary processes of natural regulation. Whether it is possible to compare the West to the East, whether it is possible to compare England to Romania? Things not comparable. Though we should as basic fundamental values aspires to more best, successful form of a state system, last bastion of traditional Europe of " the English variant "
But the new world order wont allow that becuase Britain is a slave nation unlike Switzerland which is largely a play pit retreat for the elite. BOLLOX TO THE EU
Damn you EU! I wish I could vote for him. But no, the stupid germans only have statist politicians. Even the so called classical liberal party FDP is statist scum.
It never ceases to make an impression on me when I see all of those empty seats. Being a representative in that place is such a joke. They don't even bother pretending that it matters.
Hannan is never going to get near the reigns of power taking sensibly and directly. Maybe he should start telling lies and be more corrupt. That is how you get elected these days.
Let alone the fact he is using common sense, how is that going to get him anywhere.
Cameron has been giving away more powers to the EU than labour did and has even been championing Turkey joining. As much as i love Hannan he is a bit of a false hope for the conservatives... Well a massive false hope as hes had no influence on the policy makers.
DC had promised Hannan restraint according to his bloggs. If that is true then DC has tuerned his back on him
Well put, but will they ever listen? You could do far more good in the House of Commons than you currently can in Brussels. The EU parliament is just a talking shop for Machiavellian, EU statist sheep!
I absolutely agree with you on this one Dan. The Swiss model is exactly the way Europe should be run. Issue is if we ever left they would probably just introduce a trade embargo on us out of spite.
The reason Swiss is protected is becaue all the major banks where all the criminals transactions occur is there.. That's why.. It's basically a place no laws apply for the major world bankers to conduct criminals activites.
@xMaXiMuSx Oh shut up already, you piss me off, us states like delaware and others provide a far higher bank secrecy, just like the Cayman islands, cook island and so on, you should stop lecturing other people about the way to conduct business if you clearly do it the same way when it comes to your intrest. The world major bankers do not need switzerland, they can very well do as they please everywhere on this shitty planet, get over it.
@xMaXiMuSx And let me remind you, xMaXiMuSx, that banks, watches, chocolate, cheese, cows, mountains, alphorns and country music are PART of our national patrimony, but ARE NOT the BASE of our system. In fact, as I said it in my last comment, our federal system and our direct democracy are actually what "saved" us from the european country-killing machine. Also we represent the only 0.1 % of the world population that can vote on everything that concerns their country....
S1= the few who believe they are Someone Special and deserve to control all wealth-power-people in the world. N1= the many whom S1s believe are No One Special and need to be controlled completely. >It's not about communism or socialism. It's all about who has power and control. >American Capitalism gives N1s the chance to be S1s (controlling their own wealth-power). >Best example in pop culture: Katy Perry: looks, talent, brains, savvy, courage- look what she's done! .. SCREW the EU & Nobama!
I believe that the media, the mainstream media have everything to loose from a serious debat. The mainstream media is in the pocket by the governing bodies like Brussels, The Hague, Paris, Madrid. all thanks to the bailout money they got, our governments robbed from us the working class, the entrepeneurs - the nett taxpayers of Europe. The mainstream media is in bed with the politicians, the eurocrats so to speak.
@stellandBlood: U dont know a fucking shit about switzerland. Fuck you from where ever u are. stay there and go down with the rest.
We will remain after the smoke over Europe has faded away. hopefully alone.
SeLzAm 2 months ago
oh lol... i clicked on this because i read the title: the EU should OCCUPY, not copy... I thought dan had gone mad
fishslappr 3 months ago
Switzerland rules. I simply love that country, I have nothing but good experiences from there.
Dorkus89Malorkus 4 months ago
@FightforChristianity LOL,poetry.
Neither I about you.
Once responsible politicians demand the return of tax payer money,in swiss bank accounts,the more Switzerland falls.
StellandBlood 5 months ago
@StellandBlood At least we have a bit of democracy...
Azrl26 5 months ago
@StellandBlood Switzerland is about freedom, not governement intervention and excessive regulations. Apparently you misunderstand facts: it is not because of Switzerland that there are corrupt politicians out there (how can you be so naive?). Therefore it is not up to the Swiss to act as the worlds haven of justice and judge who is corrupt or not. You sound just as most socialistic politicians: a cheap speech that puts responsabilities on others rather than on itself.
pitermeyer 3 months ago
@pitermeyer
Switzerland is all about international corruption,not only swiss.
StellandBlood 3 months ago
@pitermeyer I wouldn't bother with StellandBlood, judging by his/her other comments, s/he is borderline illiterate. Probably a teacher at some school in England.
ahallidie 2 months ago
@FightforChristianity
"blabla"..... Switzerland is a shame.
StellandBlood 5 months ago
@FightforChristianity
Yes switzerland does accept money from corrupt politicians,and drug lords,that is widely known.
StellandBlood 5 months ago
well done!
cawinhosurf 5 months ago
I also think that,lets accept the money of all criminals on the planet.
StellandBlood 6 months ago
Eh,in any case,it's not like the Swiss have any degree of control over their banks left,most Swiss banks are now managed by foreign directors,hence why so much black money is stashed.If Switzerland were to fall under a more centralized management like the Brussels,that would carry dire concequences for the European continent,or cross that out,the entire world.And I'm saying this as a Swiss who advocates a democratic E.U. that safeguards the interests of its citizens.
JeanMaria93 6 months ago
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SwissTHX11384EB 10 months ago
@SwissTHX11384EB
What matters is the banks the rest is far from being as relevant.
StellandBlood 6 months ago
At last there is someone in Europe that understands the European problem AND the solution to solve it. I'm Swiss and I've always been fighting against Europe and its centralism which could eventually destroy us someday if we forget how lucky we are with our federal system in this mass of people being used by their governments like puppets. When Europe (and even countries all around the world) will have understood that federalism and direct democracy are THE solution, then life shall be better.
SwissTHX11384EB 10 months ago
Good words, I'm Swiss and I'm against the EU the EURO and all the stuff which is similar to the USA. I don't want a European State like the USA. All countries should be free to decide what they want to do without telling Brussel about their politics.
Mr5eXLove 1 year ago 3
@Mr5eXLove There is very little similarity in how the EU is governed and how the US is governed. Most Americans lament that our federal government is trying to model itself now on the EU by centralizing power in federal bureaucracy rather than in the state and local governments where it belongs.
macornelius 1 year ago
Amen, amen, amen to Mr. Hannan!
Aeschylus 1 year ago
Dan, again you like many other conservatives say the right things but acomplish none of it, the Tory party seems to say one thing and do another, I can only come to the conclusion that the Tory party has pet Eurosceptics it wheels out to talk a good game, whilst they continue the treachery of the Labour party, all mouth no trousers, if you are a Eurosceptic then why are you in a party that doesn't reflect your views.
MrFooknuts 1 year ago 3
1 person is Herman Van Rompuy
nofatchicks6 1 year ago
I don't understand this debate as no one forced Britain to join the EU in the 70's. I am not saying that the EU is perfect because it's proved it's not and there are huge challenges to overcome. But some people who's writing here doesn't mention that Uk's economy (still) depends on how well (or bad) the EU economies go. Strategic British sectors as transports, energy and so on are run by EU companies. The Spanish bank Santander rescued some British banks. You won't be Switzerland, you are UK!
MrBertmann85 1 year ago
@MrBertmann85 Firstly, the EU of today is nothing like the proposition put forward in the 70s. Secondly, we also rely heavily on the American economy performing well, as it's our single biggest export destination, do we need a political union with America for that?
smoochym 1 year ago 4
Having fun in your pro-EU party, Dan?
richardcadbury 1 year ago
Whether it is possible to construct and unit Europe on democratic principles? Whether the person can interfere with evolutionary processes of natural regulation. Whether it is possible to compare the West to the East, whether it is possible to compare England to Romania? Things not comparable. Though we should as basic fundamental values aspires to more best, successful form of a state system, last bastion of traditional Europe of " the English variant "
Altxandr 1 year ago
But the new world order wont allow that becuase Britain is a slave nation unlike Switzerland which is largely a play pit retreat for the elite. BOLLOX TO THE EU
WHENYOUREALISE 1 year ago
Damn you EU! I wish I could vote for him. But no, the stupid germans only have statist politicians. Even the so called classical liberal party FDP is statist scum.
KnightFrank 1 year ago 6
0:40 "... outside the common fisheries policy ..."
As you would expect of a nation without a coastline!
lol
0muffins0 1 year ago
It never ceases to make an impression on me when I see all of those empty seats. Being a representative in that place is such a joke. They don't even bother pretending that it matters.
darkherokaze 1 year ago 4
Hannan is never going to get near the reigns of power taking sensibly and directly. Maybe he should start telling lies and be more corrupt. That is how you get elected these days.
Let alone the fact he is using common sense, how is that going to get him anywhere.
aussiedon8 1 year ago 3
Amen.....centralized gov't doesn't work. Power back to the municipalities.
justgetsome 1 year ago
@justgetsome what do you think of taking that a step farther in the sense of power back to the individual?
desirefirst 1 year ago
@desirefirst ...even better. you got me there.
justgetsome 1 year ago
Cameron has been giving away more powers to the EU than labour did and has even been championing Turkey joining. As much as i love Hannan he is a bit of a false hope for the conservatives... Well a massive false hope as hes had no influence on the policy makers.
DC had promised Hannan restraint according to his bloggs. If that is true then DC has tuerned his back on him
NicosMind 1 year ago
Well put, but will they ever listen? You could do far more good in the House of Commons than you currently can in Brussels. The EU parliament is just a talking shop for Machiavellian, EU statist sheep!
caversmill 1 year ago
Hear Hear!
Holes in their Cheese, but No Holes in their Economy.
3martijns 1 year ago 2
Well said Mr Hannan
richnobes 1 year ago
Alright so when are you and Farage going to stop talking and get to getting out of the EU?
vokterhund 1 year ago
@vokterhund I'm sure if the had the power to do that, they would go about doing it............
x0th101 1 year ago
They do not control their own borders - they are a member of Schengen
trying58 1 year ago
thank you.
myrelative 1 year ago
Vote up if you can spell "Hannan"
Anteater1234567 1 year ago 2
I absolutely agree with you on this one Dan. The Swiss model is exactly the way Europe should be run. Issue is if we ever left they would probably just introduce a trade embargo on us out of spite.
ruuman 1 year ago 3
@ruuman
The reason Swiss is protected is becaue all the major banks where all the criminals transactions occur is there.. That's why.. It's basically a place no laws apply for the major world bankers to conduct criminals activites.
xMaXiMuSx 1 year ago
@xMaXiMuSx Oh shut up already, you piss me off, us states like delaware and others provide a far higher bank secrecy, just like the Cayman islands, cook island and so on, you should stop lecturing other people about the way to conduct business if you clearly do it the same way when it comes to your intrest. The world major bankers do not need switzerland, they can very well do as they please everywhere on this shitty planet, get over it.
matrixch88 1 year ago
@matrixch88
That is true but Switzerland is protected for whatever reason.. There is ZERO doubt about it.. It's because of their banks..
xMaXiMuSx 1 year ago
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@xMaXiMuSx And let me remind you, xMaXiMuSx, that banks, watches, chocolate, cheese, cows, mountains, alphorns and country music are PART of our national patrimony, but ARE NOT the BASE of our system. In fact, as I said it in my last comment, our federal system and our direct democracy are actually what "saved" us from the european country-killing machine. Also we represent the only 0.1 % of the world population that can vote on everything that concerns their country....
SwissTHX11384EB 10 months ago
Why is he always on his own? He needs to speak in a full house.
ytrogergt 1 year ago
S1= the few who believe they are Someone Special and deserve to control all wealth-power-people in the world. N1= the many whom S1s believe are No One Special and need to be controlled completely. >It's not about communism or socialism. It's all about who has power and control. >American Capitalism gives N1s the chance to be S1s (controlling their own wealth-power). >Best example in pop culture: Katy Perry: looks, talent, brains, savvy, courage- look what she's done! .. SCREW the EU & Nobama!
mallardhead 1 year ago
Maybe you should be telling David Cameron.
The Conservatives love the EU,Hannon is just there to give a glimmer of hope,that will come to nothing.
express375 1 year ago 25
What is it that stops the mainstream media having a serious debate on Europe?
arthur1411 1 year ago 73
@arthur1411 common purpose my friend
NOislamification 1 year ago 5
@arthur1411 because corporations will benefit most from the European Unions fascist policies and treaties. and the media is owned by corporations.
optionsupdate 1 year ago 8
@arthur1411 Bribery.
2ravens2wolves 1 year ago 5
@arthur1411
I believe that the media, the mainstream media have everything to loose from a serious debat. The mainstream media is in the pocket by the governing bodies like Brussels, The Hague, Paris, Madrid. all thanks to the bailout money they got, our governments robbed from us the working class, the entrepeneurs - the nett taxpayers of Europe. The mainstream media is in bed with the politicians, the eurocrats so to speak.
Campagnevoorvrijheid 1 year ago 2
@arthur1411 I'll give you a hint. It starts with "J" and ends with "ewish interests".
ilieklolcatz 9 months ago