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  • personally some aspects of scientology when applied to my life have really helped me and continue to help me. I have my boundaries w the church because i am aware of the bad press as well as other things. are you against the organization or the technologies and teachings or both?

  • NICE MASK HANGING IN THE BACKGROUND ON YOUR SHELF

  • I know you were in a difficult situation, therefore its not unusual you are a victim for brainwashing (which all people can be under certain circumstances). By writing you are a victim but in the same time letting you know all people can be a vctim for brainwashing, i have told you what you did was ok. Somebody out there gave you the help you needed so you wanted to leave. If not you were a good thinker, you wouldnt have been able to leave. People need people. Im happy for you.

  • How could a woman of such obvious intelligenc and integrity, be roped in in the first place. I saw the dianetics video and found myself umoved. It's obviously drivel. I certainly don't mean any offence (I honestly don't) but I can't quantify the paradox!

  • If this is a bald faced lie put forth by the Co$, then what other things are they lying about?

  • I like how theres an anon mask in the background :)

    (at the top left corner)

  • on marriage, demi moore !

  • angelina jolie

  • I am.......didn't I say that in this video? If I didn't...I meant to as that's what happened from seeing that one play. Thanks :) Tory/Magoo

  • Yeah..........Often things get weird when written in Word, and then pasted elsewhere...at least of late. (It used to not be that way, but then I wasn't on YT years ago, either :) No doubt someone can tell u how to fix that, but Not I. Sorry. TLC

  • I hear David Miscavige slaps people senseless, this makes me want to join cuz i get aroused from midgets slapping me

  • i wonder if celebrities like Tom Cruise and John Travolta are blackmailed @ all when they've had their doubts about leaving the church. Especially when they know its wrong to disconnect to their family and friends when those people did nothing to them other than not join their Church. I wonder if it dawns on those celbrites.

  • No.....absolutely not. Scientology knows they have *way* too many contacts they could call in a second and "Tell all". They never speak of blackmail to anyone that I know of.

    Of all people "in", they are the safest for that reason, although they ~may~ consider it a problem. It's tricky for C of $, for IF they start openly talking about anyone's "Confidential" info. There could be serious ramifications, and they know this. They still do, with the public who speak out, or make up things re them.

  • Tory, forget about countering their slander. Hit them where it hurts: sue the bastids!

  • Hubbard said: "Get them in court, KEEP them in court--it doesn't matter whether you win, or lose, bankrupt them". No thanks...not my deal. I am hitting them where it hurts: Education :) Tory/Magoo

  • Tory, I agree with your point about men that leave. But there's another reason for it....it is a matter of men feeling their mortality.  Men that want a younger sexual partner is mainly because they start to feel their mortality and those without a good character act upon these impulses.

    Character is what counts. You, my dear, seem to have that in spades.

  • damn! I wish I had a teacher like Tory, she gets my attention and feels like I learn something, even if it's a small thing, in every vid I've seen of her.

  • Tory..!!! You dont have to explain, as a former member know they will tell any lie and believe its right

  • Believe me, *I* know I don't ~have~ to explain. I am due to the amount of NEW people leaving, who still have this question. Why not fill people in, and also educate more new people about the utter YUK they (OSA-part of C of $) do.

    Hope you understand :) Tory/Magoo

  • PS: hangover 71: I forgot to tell you what I felt, which is thanks for your support and knowledge. It means more to me than I can put into words that you all are out (or never part of it) and support each person who speaks out! Blessings to all :)

  • u look good today tory

  • hey tory, question is ur son in the church or did he leave?

  • 00:53 Chicken skin! Good work Tory you have inspired people around the globe with your videos directly and indirectly. People who may never get to say thanks, so we the people of the internet are saying thanks on their behalf. Keep up the good work, the world is watching!

  • Hello Torry,

    First time I saw your videos. Nice going. I am a happy user of SCN. OT IV, my wife OT VIII. And we have disiminated thousands into SCN. In fact we will cont.- just not to the church. The church is what you are saying. The tech has worked for us. Look at my site scientologyprinciples or google Helmut Flasch

    DMs game is over SCN has just begun

    Love Helmut

  • Did you get the part about the "BARE FACED MESSIAH", Helmut? Feel free to believe his BS anyways, but do not endulge in the same abusive practices we're protesting your former "church" for. All the Best.

  • Good luck with your endeavor, although see AnonRanGER01's comment. Hope that you are open minded enough to read "both sides". Has CoS unleashed their army of lawyers yet? Have they declared you? Setting up shop independently should raise a few heads at Gold. Unless they're so busy putting out all the other fires.

  • HFlasch....welcome to my YT site! As you've heard, I'm not a big fan of the tech, really, but I respect you wanting to use it outside the organization/"church". I doubt C of $ cares, they have **much** bigger problems these days. How do you feel about Hubbard--the darker side? I know it's easy to avoid--but frankly, he created the policies Davey uses that are abusive.

    Good luck to you :) Tory/Magoo

  • Bare Faced Messiah is available for free online. If you have not read it, you are in for an HTML page turner!

  • Most excellent video Tory. Let's go see a movie!

  • 00Truth0Seeker00:

    1. She has an important cause

    2. She has an interesting story

    3. It's written by an independant journalist, not a propagandist

    4.  What are you, stupid?!

  • Lie Seeker, hah!

  • @00Truth0Seeker00

    1. because she is pasionate and believes in her cause..

    2. because she knows herself and her story and new people want to hear it.

    3. she doesnt, but im sure she has looked at both sides. and can make an educated guess

    4. ...well......

  • Hey thanks, colbour...you nailed each one! :)

    1) Because your "church" keeps doing creepy things. When I left, I even called back Stacy to tell her I had NO plans of speaking out. ONLY due to your gang doing their weirdo things do I think of things people should know. 2) Check.3) Check. 4) Ask him---I'm sure he'll have plenty of natter to tell you. If he does--- Ask him to "Fly his ruds" from me :) Keep listening ~~you just *might* learn something that could help you. Tory/Magoo

  • Truthseeker has a police report. That's why he has the 00 on both sides. Why don't you admit you lied about me, saying "Why don't you go on TV?" (He used that as "proof that she's OSA") As I said then, "you set it up, I'll do it". Of course you would not, but once Tommy Cruise blew it on Oprah and Matt Lower, TONS of TV did interview me. So you owe me an apology, as well as for putting my name and Phone # on that porn site. (Computer geeks traced that to YOUR computer). Bite it...until. Tory

  • @00Truth0Seeker00 I think you forgot number 5....What are your crimes?

    Hahaha you guys are so predictable, same ole same ole. Anyone with a brain has seen Co$ after so much as being questioned go on the attack. I and countless others are telling everyone about your cult, and posting on all the most popular, blogs and videos to look into your policies and the murders you have committed. At this point you cant keep up, there are thousands of us for every one of you. Get out and we will hang out!

  • Answer to #4: Because he can. A LOT of men do that..

  • 4. Gravity.

  • perhaps ex-scientologist youtuber "iamitchey' might do a chat episode with you. if he reads this;

    you should.

  • you would be a wonderful teacher Tori

    thnx for info

  • Tory, Can you help me out with this question? I've often wondered... What excuse they had... what they told you and the others who were still in when the people you mentioned took their own lives. Did they blame the person? the family of the person? Thanks and keep up the good work!

  • Good question. Generally they said nothing. It was horrific for all of us, especially the parents. I stood over my best friend's son who shot himself to death---it was horrible.

    Of course people automatically plug in "He must have been PTS" or "His case wasn't handled right" or of course the most insane one: "He/she had overts or undisclosed hidden, bad deeds". Since then I now know 7 Scientology kids who have taken their own lives, and *tons* of adults who have died way too young.

    Best :) TLC

  • @ToryMagoo44 Thanks Tory, I couldn't picture Miscavige & Davis gathering everyone together and admitting failure. Sorry for the losses you suffered... I'm just glad you made it out and are here educating us now. Thanks again for all you do!

  • He didn't "admit failure"...he slid around it.

    "We found out they weren't trained correctly per L. Ron Hubbard" (And then quickly sent us to the registrar, who informed us we needed to Go back to "Go" (Start over) and pay $25,000. HA~

    I wrote Davey boy that night telling him what a con that was. I got back a form letter saying "We'll see you, and your $25K at Flag". Right. MORONS!

  • (This is re OT 7 not working, and David Miscavige announcing that at an event!).

    Davey boy----this is your year, pal, and ALL that you have done to harm people is flying back to you. I'm enjoying the show :)

  • The Religious Freedom Watch lies speak for themselves, spent all her money on QVC stuff????

  • Thanks for another great message Tory!!

  • Not the old "QVC Tech"! Good grief, they must be getting desperate!

  • Jesus Tory, I can see the scilons now on RFW

    "NEW VIDEO BY BIGOT MAGOO: SEXIST"

  • "Sexist"? Why? Because I warn women to take care of themselves they can say I'm "Sexist"? Well, since they *are* a "Mafia-like organization", they can say whatever they'd like. The more they do that crap, the fewer people want to join, and the more want to leave. Tick Tock, Tick tock :) See? Time IS on our side! Rock on :) Tory/Magoo

  • @ToryMagoo44 wait out the church and it'll bleed itself to death

  • I don't know much about Scientology other than it smells from a mile away.

    You really have a gift at public (video) speaking. I'm impressed!

  • This is great. We have already won. These people are really leaving, all because of people who care. $cientology can fuck off. ANY group that follows kids arounds to get thier names and address so they can send them over 9000 legal letters can suck my dick. Fuck you, $cientology and everything about you; you drew it in, assholes.

  • it is pretty official: Scientology is dead.

  • @ValerieBarlow Yes, fuck them, I hear what you are sayin'. I can hear the "fuck you, scientology" in your comment. I had to log into my special "fuck you scientology for following around kids (and adults) to get their names and address so they can send legal letters to try to force them to stop protesting" screenname. Once again, fuck you $ceintology and everything about you, and all you stand for. What a bunch of fucking asssholes. Assholes. When will the assholes stop their Assholery?

  • @ValerieBarlow AssholeryTech (TM) Copyright Church of Scientology International. (You know, the assholes who follow kids?) yes, those assholes.

  • It's a wonderful thought, the amount of people leaving, all the virtually empty orgs, but we cannot say Scientology is dead. As long as there are children being fed their Applied Scholastics (learning how to be dependent rather than adaptable), being virtually ignored in painful situations and denied comfort or sympathy, as long as there are people who are killed or die for the sake of the church, as long as there are people whose minds, bodies, and souls are trapped, Scientology is not yet dead

  • I love turning on the CC for videos. Funny stuff.

  • you should consider turing your channel into a chat show with other ex scientologists

  • I have considered that----If anyone would like to, please let me know :) Best! Tory/Magoo

  • Keep speaking out, Tory. You're doing good work. The origin of "fair game" proves that "a fish stinks from the head."

  • Hi Tory. Do you happen to have an news on how Arron Saxton is doing?

  • Is scientology dangerous or are the people in CHARGE dangerous?

  • In any cult, even the lower ranking members are dangerous, because they help get the (raw meat) people in, and use peer pressure to keep them in. Cults are a social system like any other; obviously most low level $cilons are filled with good intentions and only want to help people but if they dont go "by the book", they are kept in line by the people surrounding them. So in reality, even the guy who sweeps the floor is dangerous, in a cult.

  • Tory, you are the 'red pill' that helps people get out of the 'Matrix' illusion that is $cientology. I know you prefer the 'Truman Show' analogy, but it seems to me like the Matrix, a sinister mind control cult churning out loads of identical 'Agent Smiths' to keep everyone in line. Keep up the brilliant work!

  • ...in this case, its a bunch of little Tom Cruises being churned out, and if it weren't so creepy, it might even be funny...but this is a cult, and it is NOT funny.

  • Tory, if there is really a heaven.

    I am sure there is a special place just for you.

    What you are doing to help people leave this evil cult gives me great hope. You are a wonderful person and it makes me happy to know that there are still good people in this world.

  • You look wonderful Tory. Thanks for the update. Good to hear that more are waking up to the cult. :)

  • Totally agree with u Tory!!!

    Excellent video as always!

    Best regards

  • If your hubby got out would you take him back if he asked? Just curious. Good vid as always Tory!

  • Hi Tory you look great those colors looks super on you....As always great video thanks ....

  • Yes, it is creepy. Nice video, Tory. Thanks for speaking out. :)

  • Tory Have you ever done a video on the OTVIII stuff?

    The Rex Fowler thing has me curious about it and the accuracy of what I have read online.

  • Not gonna lie:

    I got on the new Chatroulette with my copy of Dianetics, L Ron is prolly faster then a wang to have people reach for their Next button.

    :D

  • Nothing at all wrong with women learning how to take care of themselves. It's a modern world. There are choices and opportunites. Get educated, take a course in consumer math.

    Love ya Tory, as usual you are doing a great job.

  • God bless.

  • always really gets your point of the abuse and misdoings when you go into the friends that made the mistake of suicide Tory I love this channel cause its the most honest and caring channel on youtube so much pain in the stories you tell thanks for being strong! keep rolling Magoo.

  • Your former husband must be the onley OT 8 still in by now Tory.

  • One would think, but not so...they're mostly older Scios, who have been "in" for most of their lives, and literally ---they are "True Believers". Remember, he was born into Scientology. His parents were into Dianetics, back in 1950! Best :) TLC

  • him and Kirsty Ally

  • Easy Tory... all men are not assholes =(

    anyway, good vid =)

  • Yeah.......I love men, it's just women do need to make sure they are protected, too. :)

    Thanks for all your comments :)

    Tory/Magoo

  • The best thing in this vid is them saying bout stuff from QVC is that the best thing they could come up with.

  • "Bare Faced Messiah" was a pretty good read. Material concerning Hubbard and Parsons is covered in the Chris Everard documentary "Secret Space" volume two. If anyone is interested...

  • "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." Martin Luther King

  • we will win, keep up the good werk

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