Very bumpy landing Dash 8-Q300 Lufthansa Regional !!!

[emiratesairlinepilot]

Probably shouldn't have released the backpressure after the first touchdown.

[skbenergy]

bumby landing but i love the dash 8 series

[SenorSpode]

DANG! What was the weather conditions like? Gusts? Crosswind? Hot weather?

[kingairflyer6]

@SenorSpode Everything was normal, pilot error.

[SenorSpode]

@kingairflyer6 Nod, thanks for clearing that up. I noticed the spoilers didn't deploy, did you see that? Either the pilot forgot to arm them on approach or they were practicing for spoiler failure. Either way...boing!

[kingairflyer6]

@SenorSpode I saw it that they didn't deploy. I think he forgot it because of this hard touch down.

[dHC8Pilot]

@SenorSpode this is dash q300 it does not have spoilers, only the q400 which deploy automatically on touhdown.

[SenorSpode]

@dHC8Pilot I know that on all Dash8 aircraft, there's roll spoilers that activate below 140 knots, but I highly doubt that the 100/200/300 series don't have spoilers deployable on landing; after all, all their wings are high-aspect-ratio. If a Q400 can float on landing without them, imagine what a lighter Dash will do...

[sam94vids]

People say they can do better than this in a simulator.. The truth is that you can customize your wind speed, direction, visibility etc. Airline pilots land these planes in all different weathers and circumstances.. Whether you are a student with 10 hours, or a 747 captain with thousands of hours.. There are perfect landings and not so perfect landings, but any landing that is safe and you can walk away from is a good landing

[apianos2]

german pilot???? i think lufthansa must traning theyr pilots before give thems a plane!! i have a very bad expirience with lufthansa pilots!!

[TinoDun101]

Wow im still flyin simulator and i can better than that!

[LittleDrummer55]

not in the gettho anymore :P

[lapacman26]

better than anything any of you can do,this is a real plane not flight sim!

[Scoopy4444]

Bad days happen to everyone : )

[straighttailpilot]

Dang thats what students are supposed to do!

[ChrizRockster]

Fine line between not enough flare and tail strike lol.

[pikapoketpu]

Any landing in which the aircraft can be flown again is a great one!

[br76892]

Yikes! I've bounced too when I was training in on Cessna 172s. I later learned a trick: when flaring out aim the vertical speed indicator for -300fpm. Works like a charm. I'm suprised other pilots dont do this as well even though my instructors said I use the guages too much. So what? If it works use it !

[johnmunoz18]

not fair, regional pilots in europe get paid more than united states regionals!

[flankeri]

@johnmunoz18

That's because they respect their careers more and will not work for pennies!

Hope one day that happens in North America.....

[johnmunoz18]

@flankeri it better do, because like aroung 2020 when i graduate college and flight school it better be $60,000 or GTFO!

[flyhighkev]

great porpoising motion! saw a guy do that in a 172 and it resulted in a prop strike but the pilot was ok. the engine and prop had to be replaced

[DetEJagDe]

This isn't a cityhopper, its a runwayhopper

[bogycraper]

whoopsy

[HMC200]

3rd landing was best !!!

[f18jock]

:( Poor nose gear!!! Porpus much??

[pilot588]

I was expecting to see one of those funny Landings were the Plane's nose hits Hard(Airspeed too low for lift)so the tail hits, then the nose, then the tail...ect. until they slow down.......But I was wrong...still funny xD

[MrDanieldb]

Quick!  Wake up the pilots! We're here!!

[55peti]

poor plane

[ryanmd11fan]

kangaroo plane:))

[MrFroopi]

Lufthansa normaly not have pilots like that ... :S

[bruno84]

It´s typical for student pilots to have the tendency to nose down after bouncing. Not so common on professionals.

[eltfell]

Pfff - ich wurde auch mal (mit einer Fokker 50 von SAS) mit drei Hüpfern gelandet. Das ist nicht weiter wild, fühlt sich nur lustig an. Kommentar von dem Typen neben mir: "Na, da haben sie wohl mal die Stewardess landen lassen."

[guitarsnowmobiler]

@eltfell Sie sind ein commercial pilot?

[eltfell]

@guitarsnowmobiler Nope - just a passenger who doesn't get nervous.

[144flyer01]

Does anyone have any opinions about the mandate the senate recently passed, which makes the minimum hours for a commercial pilot 800 hours?! Plus the families of the colgan air crash are pushing for a 1,500 hour minimum. Personally I feel very sorry for the victims in the crash. But raising the minimum hours that high will cause major issues and may not even solve the problem. Pilots need more high-tech training not just hours behind the yoke. Any other views?

[ChiCan76]

fire the pilot - too much weed

[lonewolfintj]

"URRRRBLLLGGG!!! Sorry, stewardess, I seem to have lost my lunch all over the guy in front of me. Is the captain angry at us for some reason? No? I was just curious. He seemed angry. Didn't flare, came down nose first, bounced several times like basketball being dribbled. Must be doing nose-gear stress testing then? Huh? Food poisoning? Oh, I see. He must have ate the same fish I did. BBLLUURG!!! Scuze me."

[reykjavikc]

augsburg is a shit airport

[144flyer01]

@stevenseagullWTF- i severely doubt that your friend "flies like shit" if he's operating as the captain of an airbus. Plus, I don't think its possible for him to be a capt. at his age. The issue regarding inexperienced first officers is a serious one. But make not mistake, that all pilots hired by airlines show extrodinary talent. Airlines have no way of predicting how a person will react in an emergency situation. have faith in the pilots.

[stevenseagullWTF]

The most decent reply at the time. BTW I'm a pilot myself, so i'm stating my opinion from what I see every day at the airport. And i correct my previous comment, he's not a captain but a FO. (i'm not used to the european requirements, he told me he was promoted to captain because he reached the 1500 and I bought it- my fault)

And believe me he flies like s****. He got into the airline because his father is a senior captain there.

[144flyer01]

Thank you for clarifying your comment. I still completley disagree with your comment about flying like shit. However, I do sympathize with you. I absolutley hate it when the children of exceptional pilots get a few ride to the top. While the rest struggle to make ends meet as they work their way up the ranks. Just hope its worth it in the end :)

[stevenseagullWTF]

This happens when regional airlines hire 200 hours-just recieved pilots. 18 year olds eager to make a quick buck. Fly, watch, learn, then aply for an airline!

[danetrain0101]

Well, you need 250 hours, and the captain of the aircraft is a ATP rated pilot, has at least 1500 flight hours and is 23 or older.

[stevenseagullWTF]

I'm talking about the copilots. I have a friend that is 19 and captain of an airbus in an european airline, and honestly, he flies like shit.

[SPLLG]

@stevenseagullWTF it isn`t possible. TO be a PIC on airline you must to have an ATPL which means at least 21 years old and 1500 hours of total flight time!

[matthieu261290]

@stevenseagullWTF impossible..you must be 21 to work for an airline

[peteboy1113]

always good to see a happy landing. i love the dash 8s, 300-400. good for short hauls.

[megadaniel25]

i dont get it

[777BACAPTAIN]

Way to fast for such an airacraft, agreed!

[1037pm]

Too fast.

Should have went idle a while ago.

[HanzPrague]

and bad timing of final flare

[Starjack100]

Is this pilot flying the Dash 8 aircraft for the first time or is he getting a heart attack? I don't normally see a landing like this.

[carl7ritchie]

most young pilots fly regional.

[joepatroni77]

Thats something a 10 hour pilot would do. Mind you thats what they are hiring these days...

[FlugSimulatorXfan]

Naja Augsburgs Piloten sind halt amateur Piloten!

Damals flogen augsburg airways ja noch!

[zedextreme8177]

lol, pilot must've been a lowrider driver:P

[volcom1722]

Pilot get sacked?

[kingairflyer6]

Don't know but this was a training landing.

[eclipse245]

THERE'S YOUR ANSWER...coulda told us that.

[ataramprat]

...pilots don't generally get fired for hard landings - they happen.

[Aviationnation10]

@volcom1722 theres now way you would be sacked iv seen aerarann landings alot worse

[volcom1722]

@Aviationnation10 sorry i was a douche back then :D

That landing was not bad :P

[yohan01]

@volcom1722 Pilot doesn't get sacked just because of bounce during landing : )

[jerez940]

which airport is that? Hof/Plauen?

[kingairflyer6]

It's Augsburg (EDMA)!

[fisherman2000jp]

へたくそ＾＾

[alex2mitch]

great vid whats the biggest aircraft you can fit on that runway and whats the length in metres of it?

[kingairflyer6]

as i made this video the runway lenght was 1280m! the dash can land on this runway but a a310 for example can not land here

[SWR012]

Immer schön üben! *g*

[juanpxm]

max x-wind cmpnt! hooray!

[gerrit2409]

not terrible

[av8rcaptain]

holy crap... nose first!!

[leon3000pL]

JUMP JUMP AWAY!!!!!!!!!

[Lufthansa115]

hier sieht man genau, wie's nicht gemacht wird

[AirNewZealandPilot]

Quite rough... good vid. =]

[mhockey21]

And that is the perfect example why airlines dont put new pilots on their most expensive airplane!!!

[blueb0g]

haha well said lol!

[Exocisme]

Well there might had been some engine problems or flaps probs. :) - No one would allow someone to land in that way !

[zedextreme8177]

"Ladies and gentlemen, we have crash landed the aircraft at EDMA. The toilets are open for you to clean your pants. Please remain seated while captain Jumping Bean and co-pilot Kangaroo bounces what's left of the aircraftto the gate, Thank you for flying Lufthansa Regional."

[super7bhoy]

Genius, just genius!

[monxini1982]

purpoising

[taiga284]

Wüsste mal gerne, ob man der Crew von dem kleinen Trick mit den Speedbrakes erzählt hat. Wenn man die Dash mit ihren Flugeigenschaften kennt, weiß man, DIE WILL NET RUNTER! die muss man runter drücken! Das wäre zu vermeiden gewesen! Hätte doch die F.O.-Ausbildung bei Cirrus abschließen sollen, aber die haben die Dash ja rausgeschmissen!

[taiga284]

Das mit "Trick" war sarkastisch gemeint ;-)!

Wenn du auf die Oberfläche der Tragflächen guckst, siehst Du, dass nix ausgefahren ist... Die Dinger Drücken den Flieger runter, sodass er nicht wieder "hochhopsen" kann... Die Dash geht richtig "schwer" runter. Die will immer fliegen und nie landen... Daher hat sie die Dinger. ATR, Fokker etc haben so was nicht, da deren Auftrieb nicht so extrem ist. Sind ja auch keine STOL-Flugzeuge!

[taiga284]

Glaub mir. Die 300 hat welche! Bei "älteren" Modellen gehen die nicht immer automatisch. Bei unseren -100ern konnte es schon mal vorkommen, dass die Crew vergessen hatte die Spoilers einzufahren. Sah dann etwas dämlih aus, aber okay. Die -300 weißt die Spoiler auf, wie die -100, hat diese allerdings nur an den Flügelenden. Die 100 hat so was auch bei den Triebwerken. Jede Dash hat die Spoiler. allein schon wegen der Querruderfunktion. Schade dass Cirrus jetzt die Dash's raus geschmissen hat

[taiga284]

Aber hast recht... der zu früh genommene Druck kann's auch ausmachen... Dachte nur, wenn die Maschine schon runter knallt, hätten die Störklappen das kompensieren können, dass das Ding nicht wie'n Flummi rumhopst.

Wie gesagt; Die Dash is jetzt Geschichte. Jetzt ist's die Do328... :-( Wenigstens ust se recht "sportlich"...

[eliterayquaza]

hmmm...a little bit of ballooning there

awesome aircraft!

[jmr604]

I see what he was trying to do.. but it didn't work. It could have been a lot worse.

[laleeloolelol]

people sure scare easily like the sheep they are. THIS was nothing.

[crazygood150]

i wonder what the passenegers were like...

[kingairflyer6]

there were no passengers, on the landing, this dash was doing some touch and goes on this day

[SWR012]

Very often they can be seen in FMM (Memmingerberg) or sometimes in FDH (Friedrichshafen, that's the airport were I work)

[rooneyfanatiko]

WOW the landing was really bad.