@Ozdeetwisted that's kinda the point - during School Out, he throws balloon everywhere and pops them with a cane, I saw him once put a sock over his head, he has a kind of "Fuck it, why not?" attitude, which is pretty cool, you never what you're gonna get from seeing Alice live
Why the fuck are ya complaining about Manson! Not a Alice fan, more of a Manson fan, but to me they did great! Gosh stop fucking complaining and enjoy the awesome video! Ughh people this days -__-*
Saying Manson is a straight Cooper rip-off is like saying every Metal guitarist is a straight Tony Iommi rip-off; stupid.
Manson acknowledges his influences and is trying to keep shock rock alive. Manson has taken shock rock to a new level as it is much harder to shock people now days than in the 70s (as Cooper has said himself).
Again, you can see the influence of Cooper on Manson, but it does not change that Manson is one-of-a-kind; a true great who will not be forgotten.
*HATE* to say this but Manson was a disappointment. Christ, if you're going to make an appearance, learn the fucking song. When the breaks are, and the right wording at the right moment.
MANSON FUCKING ROCKS! I LOVE MANSON HES THE SHIIITTTTTTTT ....whats wrong with his name and the stuff he does?? nothing..if u dnt like it then dont watch nor listen to his music simple as tht. besides everything he wears and does is about being yourself and not being afraid to be yourself his stage perfoemances are the shit as well. hes def a legend in rock n roll by far!
allot of people forget that these people are entertainers !!!! so all the gossip of what they do in their free time, how they thing, how they act,.... does not exist on stage !!!!!
On stage they do what they have to do, to make your gig be one of the best you have ever seen !
I think it's funny that Marilyn Manson didn't know how long the solo was so he kept trying to sing and then he stopped. lol Either way I love that he performed with Alice Cooper!
I like how Alice still sounds amazing, and even though I am a fan of Manson and he used to have great live performances he ALREADY can't sing anymore.
im christain il like them both..just because mason is anti christian does not mean you are ... if you buy a car from a japanese guy are you japanese? but yah this sucks
@disposableteens220 your such an idiot, he never removed any ribs. people made that rumor up after an early concert where a girl was dressed like him singing and marilyn came out and started sucking on a fake dick, thus making it seem like he was blowing himself.
Alice Cooper is a Christian while Manson is anti-christian....
I thought that Cooper played with Manson only in order to recuperate Manson's fans
Even that Cooper, in an previous interview, criticized Manson by saying "I'm Christian and I'm sitting there going, 'How dare you tear up the bible on stage?' He even pissed me off."
@romain1993 He was just saying how hard it is to shock audiences today, but what Manson did things that even shocked Alice (the godfather of shock rock.)
@LuneyTune72 He said also "I figured anybody that creative would go out of his way not to look like Alice Cooper. To name yourself Marilyn Manson -- that's like coming out with a band that looks like KISS and calling yourself 'Smooch."
@LuneyTune72 - cuz manson is about tearing apart faith- while cooper recognizes good and evil and chooses good---- manson is just about chaos while cooper has meaning and purpose
No Alice is not a xistian. He was a devastating drunk who married a large-boobed, born again xstian, to escape his drunkeness. And, also the large boobs...
He says these things to make his wife happy. He is a member of our Church.
Does anyone else find a forty-something year old singing about being eighteen while waving a crutch in the air funny? (He is still a good singer, as far as I can tell, I don't usualy listen to him.)
@Skywalker327 No it's Alice Cooper's, Manson just made either a guest appearance or was an opening act...I think it was just a guest appearance. Alice has done this for Manson too at his concerts.
Alice asked Manson if he wanted to do a song with him Manson backed out but then on the way to his show(or something like that) half made up he decided "when am I going to get another shot?" so he ran up and was given a mic, later Alice came to Mansons' dressing room wearing a blood T-shirt and said in his Alice voice "expect me to do the same to you" which leads to the sweet dreams performance.
It appeared Marilyn was in unfamiliar grounds there for a spell (when trying to sing over the guitar solo), but hey, he wound-up pulling it all together in the end ... nice job! Alice and Marilyn, those chicks rock!
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Marilyn Manson did do this song much better than Alice (wich is his original) but Alice if fucking old now too, agree with the fact that his ears can't cope with this.
@ninjaturtle7861 True, rob zombie is awesome no doubt, but I just said Cooper and Manson because they were both so controversial. The most shocking thing Zombie did was probably remake Halloween lol
Alice fucking rocks, I love it when he was wasted in the seventies, watching I'm Eighteen and he's improv-ing lyrics. And Under My Wheels, he's stroking the microphone stand was hilarious. I love that sound from the seventies, like that band line up was ridiculously tight. I actually like them more than this line up here, and current incarnations there of.
wow! theres a lot of mini wars going on here. id deffinatly say im more for alice as ive followed his albums since pretties for you through to his most recent and i think their amazing but im also glad there have been guys like manson doing a similar things for newer audiences. i love mansons early stuff most but think both artists have done good stuff. id rather hear them than most of the crappy predictable music on the channels at the moment.
i wish-sadly no but i mean im open minded enough to know theres more to the bands music than "poison" unlike so many people my age that i talk to. ive seen alice live but ive never seen the alice cooper group live. i remember talking to you aaaaagges ago on a live vid of "reflected"
as for manson, my dad introduced me to that and think their first album holds most appeal for me. he seemed to care less what people thought and tried to shock more but now hes more acceptable to the masses i guess.
Ahh, I was thinking "Alice had no followers up until like 71 or 72." I love all of Alice's albums too, it is sad that Alice's music doesn't get the respect it deserves but I like it that way cus if everyone liked Alice then I'd have to deal with people claiming they were bigger fans than I was! hahahaha
i think the best i can do is say alice cooper was the first music i ever listened to in my life on day one. my parents played "dead babies" to me to drown out my crying-i love my parents theyre great! :D
i agree it doesnt get the respect it deserves & the talents of the original band even before ezrin came along cant be denied. its easy to see youre a proper fan and who the real alice fans are. ive actually asked people to name 5 songs for me and they couldnt name 3-its good meeting proper fans
I know how you feel about not meeting a lot of "true Alice fans." I myself have everything the man has ever done (over 2000 tracks). I have everything he's done and everything everyone else in the original ACG ever did. I have tons of rare bootleg concerts, unreleased tracks (some never released in trading groups), some stuff only Ren had except for a select few he shared with, demo tapes, etc. Me and HeyStoopid91 are Alice's biggest fans!
that sounds amazing. i recall seeing a websit doing all these bootlegs and alice cooper concerts recorded and that which looked good. ive always wanted to hear a good qualitity version of "roses on white lace" live. ive seen a camera recorded version on youtube.
I like his song with aventasia. thats pretty good too. demos and the more beatles esque recordings from before pretties for you. its great how much stuff you can find on certain artists
Are you talking to me? My name is under yours, if so then you do realize you are talking to the person who posted this video right? The one who is defending Alice? Anyways no you're wrong Alice didn't create it, it was around long before the band started. He was probably the first to bring it to America. Search for Screaming Lord Sutch and Arthur Brown, they did Shock Rock before Alice. Know who you're messing with, I know everything about Alice's history so FUCK OFF!
Excuse me? No he has never said that. He did inspire some of the biggest names in metal, Glen Buxton (the original Alice Cooper guitarist) inspired Randy Rhoads to play guitar...Alice may claim he got the ball rolling on shock rock. Also Alice is one of the nicest rock stars out there.
He may have said "one of the first" cus that is true. The Alice Cooper band was the band that took rock n roll into a darker direction. Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and Alice Cooper really took rock to a new level...metal. They were much more evil than typical rock music of that time. Think about it, it was in 1971 that Alice started getting killed on stage. He revolutionized everything that you see today, he is very modest trust me. He's allowed to complement himself once in a while.
umm yeah i agree alice cooper did help the metal build up but he did say they were the first ones to be referred to as Heavy Metal. watch "Metal: a headbangers journey" alice says it himself.
oh and actually sabbath came up with the same sound cause of iomme's E string being tuned down to D
Yes I know about Tony Iommi's string tuning cus of his fingers (I'm a rock guitarist). Also I don't really care if Alice said they were the first, who know if he was? Alice is not someone to brag, and he should brag cus he did so much to change music.
Yes it was mostly the image but the lyrics they used were also a huge change. For example "Dead Babies" (although it's about child abuse the band knew it would strike controversy), "I Love The Dead," "Raped and Freezin'," etc. The band basically gave a big middle finger to the media. Also like I said many metal players were inspired by Alice Cooper, not just by image but also by his message, which is it what inspired their music. Believe it.
Sorry but you're a dumbass, Alice is doing great. He sings a bit differently because of age but who cares? Would you rather have it that old rock stars disappear off the earth cus they're old and can't sing as well as they did when they were kids? I don't think anyone in their right mind would! What else are we going to listen to? The 10 (20 tops) good or decent new bands? FUCK NO!
I agree with you, that Alice does it great and ofcourse, he sings differently but do you expect something else from a 61 year old man who's been in this business for 40 years? But it is good that people has different opinions though! :) What a boring world if everyone had the same opinions about everything! :O
Ok whatever you could say that about any job that if your too old you should just give up and retire cus you can't work as good as you did when you were in your 20s and 30s. I don't know from what time period you consider Alice to have lost it but to me he is as good today as he was back then, change in age or not. It takes a lot of work to do what he does, he performed on stage after breaking a rib, he's done it all, a true professional unlike Axle Rose who like leaves the stage when feels it.
A lot of jobs you would/will get fired if you get too senile to complete your work.
Look, alice is still alot better than most of the talentless hacks out there right now, but he has fallen below the level of music he used to make. Plain and simple, he just CANNOT perform as well as he used to. It's nothing personal against him, he's still out there doing what he loves, but just doing what you love is not enough. Plenty of shitty bands who cant sing are doing what they love.
Yes but he still performs great in my opinion and I'm very picky. Alice may not be flawless but he definitely can keep the crowd alive, which is very hard especially with how many people he plays to.
Ozzy's voice is shot, and it's been pretty dodgy since the beginning of his career. Butler and Iommi had to cancel a lot of their tour dates with him because they never knew what he was going to sound like that day.
Long live Alice Cooper, one of the last true rockers.
RUconfuzed 2 weeks ago
Manson can't count or he's completely stoned.Probably both.
Inhumanity88 2 months ago
buchAREST 2007
furculescu 5 months ago
Yeah, But the Crutch doesn't make any sense ? ... at least when Gene Simmons Spits up fake blood it looks cool !
Ozdeetwisted 5 months ago
@Ozdeetwisted that's kinda the point - during School Out, he throws balloon everywhere and pops them with a cane, I saw him once put a sock over his head, he has a kind of "Fuck it, why not?" attitude, which is pretty cool, you never what you're gonna get from seeing Alice live
AScottishdude 5 months ago
Anyone once quit watching when Manson came out?
kickerpunter 5 months ago
Why the fuck are ya complaining about Manson! Not a Alice fan, more of a Manson fan, but to me they did great! Gosh stop fucking complaining and enjoy the awesome video! Ughh people this days -__-*
TheMarroquinTwins 6 months ago
wassup with the crutches
hicast1 6 months ago
@hicast1 It's part of the act.
LuneyTune72 6 months ago
Any1 notice that AC still looks good @ 61-62 yrs old, but MM looks like crap?
Supervillain725 6 months ago
Saying Manson is a straight Cooper rip-off is like saying every Metal guitarist is a straight Tony Iommi rip-off; stupid.
Manson acknowledges his influences and is trying to keep shock rock alive. Manson has taken shock rock to a new level as it is much harder to shock people now days than in the 70s (as Cooper has said himself).
Again, you can see the influence of Cooper on Manson, but it does not change that Manson is one-of-a-kind; a true great who will not be forgotten.
Am0kRun 6 months ago
@Am0kRun He's not a rip-off of Alice. He's Alice taken to a different extreme. Kind of like WASP was influenced by AC, and their shows were extreme.
Supervillain725 6 months ago
@Supervillain725 that's basically what I said.
Am0kRun 6 months ago
@Am0kRun I know. I'm just ripping you off like MM did AC. LOL
Supervillain725 6 months ago
I don't hear Manson at all.
zikazivac94 6 months ago
im christian and LOOOVE Alice but i cannot stand Marylin he culd just die rite there on stage for all i care!
hicast1 6 months ago
manson and his super hero
hammetaqpnaujsol 7 months ago
alice is god and every word, what he says is right and the law
Teezy000 7 months ago
Manson tried:)
juanpizano85 7 months ago
Manson ruined the song.
jonascorvo 8 months ago
Fascinating to see them together. Of course, we all know that Alice is Marylin's Father. He could not really compete with Alice on stage.
I love them both, but Alice is the original.
Paganguy1 8 months ago
Like them both...
*HATE* to say this but Manson was a disappointment. Christ, if you're going to make an appearance, learn the fucking song. When the breaks are, and the right wording at the right moment.
MEH.
Still cool though.
toriinprogress 9 months ago
@toriinprogress It was a spontaneous appearance...
Antichrist2000 8 months ago
han puesto el grito en el cielo
cristianho23 9 months ago
Alice Cooper did great.............Manson "not so much"
MichaelBurbachFan 9 months ago
lol, manson doesn't know when to come in
TomandaustinRV 10 months ago
Alice Cooper looks like a freakin' supermodel compared to Marilyn Manson, what an ugly fuck Manson is.
SuaveBola 11 months ago 2
Two icons together!!!!!
diffrentchild00 11 months ago
Damn, Alice is 21 years older and he looks so much better than Manson! :D
VitekSprytek 11 months ago
@VitekSprytek how can he possibly be 21 years older if he's only 18? xXD
c0d3x001 11 months ago
@c0d3x001 A good one!
VitekSprytek 11 months ago
MANSON FUCKING ROCKS! I LOVE MANSON HES THE SHIIITTTTTTTT ....whats wrong with his name and the stuff he does?? nothing..if u dnt like it then dont watch nor listen to his music simple as tht. besides everything he wears and does is about being yourself and not being afraid to be yourself his stage perfoemances are the shit as well. hes def a legend in rock n roll by far!
metalbabie89 1 year ago
i like marilyn manson but like Mr.Cooper said "he wears make up and uses a womans name; how original"
shadylimon 1 year ago 2
allot of people forget that these people are entertainers !!!! so all the gossip of what they do in their free time, how they thing, how they act,.... does not exist on stage !!!!!
On stage they do what they have to do, to make your gig be one of the best you have ever seen !
shadowsmile30 1 year ago
I love them both, but I find it hilarious that two old(ish) gys are singing "I'm eighteen!!!"
xxxchaotixxx 1 year ago 5
@xxxchaotixxx Well it'll be " I'm Eighty "soon :D
kostadinristovski 1 month ago
I think it's funny that Marilyn Manson didn't know how long the solo was so he kept trying to sing and then he stopped. lol Either way I love that he performed with Alice Cooper!
LegendKillerFan24 1 year ago
I like how Alice still sounds amazing, and even though I am a fan of Manson and he used to have great live performances he ALREADY can't sing anymore.
robotmonkey73 1 year ago
i only like the coop i cant fucking stand manson any more
disposableteens220 1 year ago
manson esta como una puuuta foca :@
SeveraX 1 year ago
im christain il like them both..just because mason is anti christian does not mean you are ... if you buy a car from a japanese guy are you japanese? but yah this sucks
crazyguy1279 1 year ago
im christain il like them both..just because mason is anti christian does not mean you are ... if you buy a car from a japanese guy are you japanese?
crazyguy1279 1 year ago
alice cooper is great but wtf is marilyn shitson doing here
bcsk8ter 1 year ago
@bcsk8ter i know hes horseshit
disposableteens220 1 year ago
@disposableteens220
yeah that weird mother fucker doesnt deserve to share the same stage as the legend alice cooper
bcsk8ter 1 year ago
@bcsk8ter ya and he has got the most shitest voice ever period AND to sing with alice
disposableteens220 1 year ago
@disposableteens220
yeah seriously. not only does his voice suck, hes just a fuckin freak
bcsk8ter 1 year ago
@bcsk8ter very true like when i was a fan a while ago in the book he smoked bones
disposableteens220 1 year ago
@disposableteens220
how the fuck do you smoke bones? lol
bcsk8ter 1 year ago
@bcsk8ter hahah i have no clue
disposableteens220 1 year ago
@disposableteens220
weird mother fucker, and he took out his ribs so he can suck himself off
bcsk8ter 1 year ago
@bcsk8ter hah i know
disposableteens220 1 year ago
@disposableteens220 wheres the fuckin proof? it's all rumours...
falaputo 1 year ago
@falaputo read his book man
disposableteens220 1 year ago
@disposableteens220 your such an idiot, he never removed any ribs. people made that rumor up after an early concert where a girl was dressed like him singing and marilyn came out and started sucking on a fake dick, thus making it seem like he was blowing himself.
ninjaturtle7861 1 year ago
@ninjaturtle7861 dude shut up im not the one who said he removed them dip shit
disposableteens220 1 year ago
Alice Cooper > Marilyn Manson
Excalion88 1 year ago
it's not the same mentality at all
Alice Cooper is a Christian while Manson is anti-christian....
I thought that Cooper played with Manson only in order to recuperate Manson's fans
Even that Cooper, in an previous interview, criticized Manson by saying "I'm Christian and I'm sitting there going, 'How dare you tear up the bible on stage?' He even pissed me off."
romain1993 1 year ago 10
@romain1993 He was just saying how hard it is to shock audiences today, but what Manson did things that even shocked Alice (the godfather of shock rock.)
LuneyTune72 1 year ago 13
@LuneyTune72 He said also "I figured anybody that creative would go out of his way not to look like Alice Cooper. To name yourself Marilyn Manson -- that's like coming out with a band that looks like KISS and calling yourself 'Smooch."
romain1993 1 year ago
@LuneyTune72 - cuz manson is about tearing apart faith- while cooper recognizes good and evil and chooses good---- manson is just about chaos while cooper has meaning and purpose
jesseakers 1 year ago
Well, manson knew alice was christian and did it anyway, so I think it was more of a disrespect to alice if anything
ruffles272 10 months ago
@romain1993
No Alice is not a xistian. He was a devastating drunk who married a large-boobed, born again xstian, to escape his drunkeness. And, also the large boobs...
He says these things to make his wife happy. He is a member of our Church.
Paganguy1 8 months ago
@Paganguy1 bullshit
romain1993 8 months ago
@Paganguy1 lucky i wuld LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUV to no Alice Cooper
hicast1 6 months ago
@romain1993
I don't really think Manson is against Christians, but i think that he is against Christian pepole who are taking advantage of their religion.
mkolaj 7 months ago
@mkolaj in all cases, his provocations touch every Christians
romain1993 7 months ago
@romain1993 I'm Christian, and his actions bugged me at 1st, but then I realized that it was all an act.
Supervillain725 6 months ago
i was there :X:X:X:X fu(kin' amaziiinnnnnnngggggggggggg
vev3ritza 1 year ago
alice ozzy and manson!!! i love them !
Diehardslashfan 1 year ago
@Diehardslashfan HELL YA!!!!!!!!!!!
paramorehalestorm 1 year ago
wow has there EVER been a better perfomance
gothrock100 1 year ago
marilyn manson sucked on this one,,, chester bennington is better than manson,,,,
filthyjester 1 year ago
Does anyone else find a forty-something year old singing about being eighteen while waving a crutch in the air funny? (He is still a good singer, as far as I can tell, I don't usualy listen to him.)
serp3n1 1 year ago 7
@serp3n1 Actually he was 60 when this was recorded.
LuneyTune72 1 year ago 12
@LuneyTune72 daaaaamn that nigga too old lol
Mansonfan510 1 year ago
It has been released in 1970. So Alice was actually 22 years old.
Captain8492 11 months ago
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@LuneyTune72 : It has been released in 1970. So Alice was actually 22 years old.
Captain8492 11 months ago
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@LuneyTune72 It has been released in 1970. So Alice was actually 22 years old.
Captain8492 11 months ago
@LuneyTune72 Yeah but don't forget that Manson was around forty.
CoolToobmovie 6 months ago
@serp3n1 although i love them both, you are right, it's pretty amusing :P
RachaelyClarke 1 year ago
@serp3n1 He still gets a good pop from the crowd when he does it tho.
Supervillain725 6 months ago
Alice doesn't look like he is 18!
VolleEier 1 year ago
This is from BesftFest 2007 from Bucharest, Alice Cooper concert was before Manson, then Alice came on stage and sing Sweet Dreams with Manson.
That ROCK!!!!!
cristian25448848 1 year ago
Kinda cool, a bit fucked up, but good enough to add to my collection.
barrydeez 1 year ago
is this the marilyn manson band?
Skywalker327 1 year ago
@Skywalker327 No it's Alice Cooper's, Manson just made either a guest appearance or was an opening act...I think it was just a guest appearance. Alice has done this for Manson too at his concerts.
LuneyTune72 1 year ago 6
@LuneyTune72 that's awesome. thanks for filling me in.
Skywalker327 1 year ago
@LuneyTune72
Alice asked Manson if he wanted to do a song with him Manson backed out but then on the way to his show(or something like that) half made up he decided "when am I going to get another shot?" so he ran up and was given a mic, later Alice came to Mansons' dressing room wearing a blood T-shirt and said in his Alice voice "expect me to do the same to you" which leads to the sweet dreams performance.
Antichrist2000 8 months ago
They are so great together. Figures, my two biggist idols come together in duet and sound amazing :)
429Lizzie 1 year ago
Alice is 62 and he still makes grrreat music! hope he makes at least another 200 records!! ;D
fanofa7x 1 year ago
I love this song
fanofa7x 1 year ago
lol alice was being real nice to marilyn. he/she sounds so bad in this vid lol
xxelaxela333 1 year ago
Idiot guitar player stepping on Alice's part not once but twice. I think someone needs to realize they are not the star of the show.
hallows99 1 year ago
rofl no offense but marylin looks like a cheap bitch besides alice xD is it just me or does he (marylin) seems shy next to alice :o
HeartaboyHIM 1 year ago
I love them ! Alice Cooper and Manson are legends <3
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i love alice cooper and marilyn manson ! this live rocks !!
opethfan02 1 year ago
i love alice cooper and marylin manson... this live rocks !!
opethfan02 1 year ago
18?really?...more like 50
MachineKnoT666 1 year ago
manson sucks.
cooper rocks!
alice shoulda kicked his ass on stage!
proaxe5150 1 year ago
@proaxe5150 dude, U SUCK!!!!
Rock3476 1 year ago
ta a cara da gretchen
brutalfiend 1 year ago
It appeared Marilyn was in unfamiliar grounds there for a spell (when trying to sing over the guitar solo), but hey, he wound-up pulling it all together in the end ... nice job! Alice and Marilyn, those chicks rock!
midnight1963 2 years ago
whoa my two favorite singers together whats better than this??
JokerRIPLedger 2 years ago 4
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MsAdamroberts 1 year ago
Manson and Cooper is the best thing!
grotesquemonkey 2 years ago 5
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Only one god the rock is alice and another is fuck (trash)......
alerazo2003 2 years ago
dude i love manson and cooper. its pretty great seeing them on stage at the same time.
satanistanarchy 2 years ago 25
goin 2 c mr cooper in 4 dayz!!!
ChokeslamKing 2 years ago 2
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Marilyn Manson did do this song much better than Alice (wich is his original) but Alice if fucking old now too, agree with the fact that his ears can't cope with this.
slashbucketheadlover 2 years ago
Fucking bullshit but everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
LuneyTune72 2 years ago
quit looking for trouble
slashbucketheadlover 2 years ago
@slashbucketheadlover Hahahahaha.....that is the funniest thing I have heard all day. Are you serious?
ABnormalvidEos 1 year ago
The 2 greatest shock rockers of all time performing together...AMAZING
Zando24 2 years ago 38
@Zando24 yeah :p !
opethfan02 1 year ago
@Zando24 u forgot rob zombie. hes not really shock rock but hes in that genre of music.
ninjaturtle7861 1 year ago
@ninjaturtle7861 True, rob zombie is awesome no doubt, but I just said Cooper and Manson because they were both so controversial. The most shocking thing Zombie did was probably remake Halloween lol
Zando24 1 year ago
Alice fucking rocks, I love it when he was wasted in the seventies, watching I'm Eighteen and he's improv-ing lyrics. And Under My Wheels, he's stroking the microphone stand was hilarious. I love that sound from the seventies, like that band line up was ridiculously tight. I actually like them more than this line up here, and current incarnations there of.
Jimbothy 2 years ago
Marylin Manson sings this song good but its hard to hear Alice
Curlyhair1231 2 years ago
wow! theres a lot of mini wars going on here. id deffinatly say im more for alice as ive followed his albums since pretties for you through to his most recent and i think their amazing but im also glad there have been guys like manson doing a similar things for newer audiences. i love mansons early stuff most but think both artists have done good stuff. id rather hear them than most of the crappy predictable music on the channels at the moment.
derangedband 2 years ago
Do you mean you followed Alice from 1969 to today?
LuneyTune72 2 years ago
i wish-sadly no but i mean im open minded enough to know theres more to the bands music than "poison" unlike so many people my age that i talk to. ive seen alice live but ive never seen the alice cooper group live. i remember talking to you aaaaagges ago on a live vid of "reflected"
as for manson, my dad introduced me to that and think their first album holds most appeal for me. he seemed to care less what people thought and tried to shock more but now hes more acceptable to the masses i guess.
derangedband 2 years ago
Ahh, I was thinking "Alice had no followers up until like 71 or 72." I love all of Alice's albums too, it is sad that Alice's music doesn't get the respect it deserves but I like it that way cus if everyone liked Alice then I'd have to deal with people claiming they were bigger fans than I was! hahahaha
LuneyTune72 2 years ago
i think the best i can do is say alice cooper was the first music i ever listened to in my life on day one. my parents played "dead babies" to me to drown out my crying-i love my parents theyre great! :D
i agree it doesnt get the respect it deserves & the talents of the original band even before ezrin came along cant be denied. its easy to see youre a proper fan and who the real alice fans are. ive actually asked people to name 5 songs for me and they couldnt name 3-its good meeting proper fans
derangedband 2 years ago
I know how you feel about not meeting a lot of "true Alice fans." I myself have everything the man has ever done (over 2000 tracks). I have everything he's done and everything everyone else in the original ACG ever did. I have tons of rare bootleg concerts, unreleased tracks (some never released in trading groups), some stuff only Ren had except for a select few he shared with, demo tapes, etc. Me and HeyStoopid91 are Alice's biggest fans!
LuneyTune72 2 years ago
that sounds amazing. i recall seeing a websit doing all these bootlegs and alice cooper concerts recorded and that which looked good. ive always wanted to hear a good qualitity version of "roses on white lace" live. ive seen a camera recorded version on youtube.
I like his song with aventasia. thats pretty good too. demos and the more beatles esque recordings from before pretties for you. its great how much stuff you can find on certain artists
derangedband 2 years ago
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Heavymetalpunker92x 2 years ago
Are you talking to me? My name is under yours, if so then you do realize you are talking to the person who posted this video right? The one who is defending Alice? Anyways no you're wrong Alice didn't create it, it was around long before the band started. He was probably the first to bring it to America. Search for Screaming Lord Sutch and Arthur Brown, they did Shock Rock before Alice. Know who you're messing with, I know everything about Alice's history so FUCK OFF!
LuneyTune72 2 years ago
Also just to let you know, you're an idiot.
LuneyTune72 2 years ago
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alice cooper is an asshole. he thinks he created heavy metal, what a looser
ramv1243 2 years ago
Excuse me? No he has never said that. He did inspire some of the biggest names in metal, Glen Buxton (the original Alice Cooper guitarist) inspired Randy Rhoads to play guitar...Alice may claim he got the ball rolling on shock rock. Also Alice is one of the nicest rock stars out there.
LuneyTune72 2 years ago
if you haven't seen the movie "metal:a headbanger's journey" then watch it. and listen to what alice cooper says there
gonzav20 2 years ago
I have and still don't change my mind.
LuneyTune72 2 years ago
well on an interview he did say that his band was the first ever to be called heavy metal
misfitsg17 2 years ago
He may have said "one of the first" cus that is true. The Alice Cooper band was the band that took rock n roll into a darker direction. Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and Alice Cooper really took rock to a new level...metal. They were much more evil than typical rock music of that time. Think about it, it was in 1971 that Alice started getting killed on stage. He revolutionized everything that you see today, he is very modest trust me. He's allowed to complement himself once in a while.
LuneyTune72 2 years ago
umm yeah i agree alice cooper did help the metal build up but he did say they were the first ones to be referred to as Heavy Metal. watch "Metal: a headbangers journey" alice says it himself.
oh and actually sabbath came up with the same sound cause of iomme's E string being tuned down to D
misfitsg17 2 years ago
Yes I know about Tony Iommi's string tuning cus of his fingers (I'm a rock guitarist). Also I don't really care if Alice said they were the first, who know if he was? Alice is not someone to brag, and he should brag cus he did so much to change music.
LuneyTune72 2 years ago
yeah i know about tony's fingers.
and on that movie it sounded like alice was bragging a bit.
I think he did more to the look of metal than the sound
misfitsg17 2 years ago
Yes it was mostly the image but the lyrics they used were also a huge change. For example "Dead Babies" (although it's about child abuse the band knew it would strike controversy), "I Love The Dead," "Raped and Freezin'," etc. The band basically gave a big middle finger to the media. Also like I said many metal players were inspired by Alice Cooper, not just by image but also by his message, which is it what inspired their music. Believe it.
LuneyTune72 2 years ago
Aren't they (especially Alice Cooper) a little too old to sing a song like this?
MaryMiscarriage 2 years ago
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No and what would make you say such a dumb thing?
Wiesshund 1 year ago
alice coopers cool, marilyn manson is a fag.
HeresMuffinscrubb 2 years ago
Alice cooper rocks, marilyn manson sucks
AleCrux 2 years ago 5
alice is old but u gotta admit for how old he is he is still good
slipknotandmh 2 years ago 3
heee´s eightyyyyy
laspuchas3000 2 years ago
lol, made me laugh.
SamDaMan013 2 years ago
i was at the psycho drama tour but the fagget marilyn manson wasnt there
timmerocks 2 years ago
lucky
Slagdar 2 years ago
I'm sorry but I think that Marilyn's destroying this song! :O No offense! Alice Cooper rocks!!!
xYum1x 2 years ago 4
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I think Alice is doing a fine job destroying it himself at this age.
Pro basketball players don't expect to have anywhere near the talent they once did, and would never dream of playing at alice's age.
Same goes for him, he was great, he still IS a great, but he just cannot perform well enough to go 'pro'.
Just my opinion though.
I honestly quite like Marilyn Manson chiming in on some of the parts, but obviously he's no where near close to the original.
SamDaMan013 2 years ago
Sorry but you're a dumbass, Alice is doing great. He sings a bit differently because of age but who cares? Would you rather have it that old rock stars disappear off the earth cus they're old and can't sing as well as they did when they were kids? I don't think anyone in their right mind would! What else are we going to listen to? The 10 (20 tops) good or decent new bands? FUCK NO!
LuneyTune72 2 years ago
I agree with you, that Alice does it great and ofcourse, he sings differently but do you expect something else from a 61 year old man who's been in this business for 40 years? But it is good that people has different opinions though! :) What a boring world if everyone had the same opinions about everything! :O
xYum1x 2 years ago
I hardly think that not liking a degraded version of the song makes me a dumbass.
You said it yourself, "He sings a bit differently because of age".
To me, that ruins the song. If I were him I'd have enough respect for the music to know when I was too old to show it the respect it deserves.
And yes, I could care less about the rock stars when they no longer rock. It's not about them, it's about the music.
And for what I listen to? Older live versions from him :)
SamDaMan013 2 years ago
Ok whatever you could say that about any job that if your too old you should just give up and retire cus you can't work as good as you did when you were in your 20s and 30s. I don't know from what time period you consider Alice to have lost it but to me he is as good today as he was back then, change in age or not. It takes a lot of work to do what he does, he performed on stage after breaking a rib, he's done it all, a true professional unlike Axle Rose who like leaves the stage when feels it.
LuneyTune72 2 years ago
A lot of jobs you would/will get fired if you get too senile to complete your work.
Look, alice is still alot better than most of the talentless hacks out there right now, but he has fallen below the level of music he used to make. Plain and simple, he just CANNOT perform as well as he used to. It's nothing personal against him, he's still out there doing what he loves, but just doing what you love is not enough. Plenty of shitty bands who cant sing are doing what they love.
SamDaMan013 2 years ago
So don't go, and shut up about those of us that want to go.
n6girl 2 years ago
Yes but he still performs great in my opinion and I'm very picky. Alice may not be flawless but he definitely can keep the crowd alive, which is very hard especially with how many people he plays to.
LuneyTune72 2 years ago
dude ozzy osbourne is 60 and sings perfectly
alucardvampire562 2 years ago
Ozzy's voice is shot, and it's been pretty dodgy since the beginning of his career. Butler and Iommi had to cancel a lot of their tour dates with him because they never knew what he was going to sound like that day.
sonorpaiste702 2 years ago
I'm in the same opinion..
Marilyn should use his voice, not just shouting...
But Alice is perfect! :)
joggy12345 2 years ago 2
Sing It, Alice!!!
steve7138 2 years ago
amazing
ataglance20079 2 years ago
they are the father and the son of shock rock! ily alice and marilyn <3<3
Heavymetalpunker92x 2 years ago
shock rock?
cool term, i always just called it alt. rock
ddyuj 2 years ago
Alternative Rock is a completely different genre. Alt. Rock is like the Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Killers, Papa Roach, Audioslave, Muse, etc.
LuneyTune72 2 years ago
ohh, ok , thanks for the clarification
ddyuj 2 years ago
the godfather and the godson of shock rock! perfect combination for alice and marilyn and great song too <3 i luv 'em both <3<3 5/5
Heavymetalpunker92x 2 years ago
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MsAdamroberts 1 year ago
Marilyn! Ah ! x)
this is sucha great combo .
slaughterxsandii 3 years ago
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MsAdamroberts 1 year ago
Note to artists: If you're doing a collobo, be sure both parties know when/what to sing. Manson butchered the end of this song
Murderyourcat 3 years ago
I love Alice but I think Manson's voice is better for this song.
Killzone707 3 years ago
alice cooper isa rock idol
punkrockindie 3 years ago
well, i dont like much MM, alice for me is better, but is good see this!
SAURIOCOOPER 3 years ago
as talented as MM is theres no getting around the fact that hes a huge Cooper Rip off
AngusYoungFan1994 3 years ago
you know...that might be cause one of mansons biggest influences was alice cooper....just a thought
DevilDingo777 3 years ago
Amazing. Manson is a God; ALice is the King.
Shzuki 3 years ago 5
not my friend alice is God and the Godness! manson is maybe the king
SAURIOCOOPER 3 years ago
Great but in the end, it gets a bit "Who can sing loudest" :P
jullalla 3 years ago