Bach - Menuet in G Minor BWV Anh 116

[Tenifus]

Fantastic!

[sheridanhaskell]

This tempo is actually more likely how a minuet would have been played back then. From six different French pendulum markings from the first half of the 18th century, we find minuets being played from quarter = 126 - 231 with an average of about 190 bpm. You can read about this "Interpreting Pendulum Markings for French Baroque Dances" by Harris-Warrick. Quantz in 1752 gave the minuet quarter = 160.

[rlondon777]

Holy Trills Batman! Awesome!

[itscodyw]

G major! haha this was the first bach Ive even learned, Im now working a Back little fuge in g, Its awsome!

[ArchangelusMortis]

haha yeah as the others said gmajor.... i played this a few years ago on violin :D

[Ratje1a]

MAJOR!

[micangess]

g major!!!

[he214abc]

very fast

[larsgathe]

12 people... dont like bach, old men or harpsichords. fair enough.

great vid.

[redbrian3655]

Yup.... G MAJOR...really should change it. It is very misleading. Thanks.

[TheLivingHeiromartyr]

yes, you really should change the title to G Major

[Sh2theB]

you rock harpsicord dude!!!

[colourfulwithaU]

Why does it say G minor?

[Darkboy2525]

haha Ton Koopman you play this most brilliant !

[VONHIMMELBACH]

Oh I love this piece, and Ton Kooman is just amazing. And I actually like the ornamentations very much. That's real technique and creativity.

[marquischadier]

G major, not minor!

[GodDamnlt]

Great sounding harpsichord

[damiancho15]

too fast!!!! and is G major

[Wienermitan]

@damiancho15 I don't agree. It sounds very naturaly. You only have to feel the pulse of the whole bar instead of every single quarter note.

It's indeed in G major.

[jasonman071]

isnt that in g major?

[feli1097]

erm, how your fingers ever move so fast? Anyway, its a really interesting change though. :)

[bhinderbinder]

Mr. Koopman, IMHO, is one of the best harpsichordists ever!!!!! Acknowledging that the trills may be excessive to some, it's still true he possesses fantastic technique which enables him to play at lightning speeds (with trills). :0

[cwecub]

my favorite version of this peice on youtube..all the others play it slow and stumble along..and i love the sound of a harpsichord

[Hyrulean112]

Isn't it i G Major?

[dropoutextreme]

@Hyrulean112 Yes, the first part is in G Major, the Fugue switches to E Minor, then goes back to G Major when it repeats the theme. This has too many embellishments and improvisations for my taste, but to each his own.

[jmarkha5]

@dropoutextreme there is no fugue...

[dropoutextreme]

@jmarkha5 if you say so.

[jmarkha5]

@dropoutextreme yes, possitive. 1. It's a minuet 2. it doesn't show even one part of a fugue. Just so you know. Maybe look up what exactly qualifies a fugue...

[SonicDreamcaster]

WTF MAN this is so weird

[Orchidbeautyful]

fuckin' beutiful

[sirrington]

I love how he is tilting his head like that

[LePoteAmarcel]

nice triplets!

[rosangel123qw]

this guy showes with his skills that he really has the baroque technique ! well done !

[Alexmango2k7]

bloody brillian. i am trying to lear that. good on you :)

[rodrigocientista]

the player is pretty good but there are too much ornamentation for my taste

[LePoteAmarcel]

rock it baby!

[dapna]

this is menuet in G major... not minor...

[whatdidyousaynigga]

no is minor. the major begins with re sol la si do re sol sol

[bachlifly]

I like it =D

[dolofonos]

I don't like it at all; most unpleasantly ornamented and improvised--Kipnis does much better and with more compliment to the work than the mere showing off of his own technical ability.

[sousukesagaraJKD]

During the baroque period it was normal to add ornaments when the theme was repeated. Today there's a wrong way to think at Bach's works as stark and severe.

[dolofonos]

_Bach_ is actually one of the few composers whose intentions and beliefs regarding proper performance are clear and anything but frivolous: he is known for having made numerous corrections of his own scores _specifically_ involving ornamentation. Do not allow yourself to fall victim to the generalizations of 'proper' Baroque performance which are put forth by so many music scholars and applied to Bach; they don't.

[sousukesagaraJKD]

Did you read C.P.E. Bach's "Method of Playing the Clavier"? There are J.S. Bach's thoughts (reported by his son) about ornamentation.

[Zaphenath4]

How come you don't like it at all? You said he "does more compliment to the work than merely showing off his ability". Doesn't that mean he's making the work sound nice rather than trying to show off? Correct me if I'm wrong.

[dolofonos]

I was comparing Koopman with someone else--Kipnis--who is known for lavish embellishment, but who, in my opinion, does so with less vanity and better supplements the music (despite his ability, in cases where there seems no room for embellishments he actually concedes to the work whereas Koopman defiantly inserts them whenever possible to the point absurdity).

[Zaphenath4]

Oh I see. So basically, you're saying Koopman is overdoing it?

[dolofonos]

Precisely.

[mxtiplitz]

alexred1, estoy totalmente de acuerdo con Vd, en toda su apreciación. Tengo un Cd de este mismo intérprete y deja mucho que desear. Esta pieza está excesivamente adornada y en un tempo inadecuado.

[alexred1]

@mxtiplitz esa es una gran verdad: el "bouquet" del libro de Anna Magdalena Bach es precisamente la calidad de sus adornos, ni pocos ni muchos, sólo los justos. Eso es lo que convirtió a ese libro en una pieza deliciosa para tocar en cualquier ocasión: conseguí en Internet un facsímil del original y es realmente maravillosa (sólo poseía unas doce piezas nomás para tocar). Es realmente una pena que algunos intérpretes le agreguen cosas que no fueron puestas en los originales: sólo lo tapan.

[DarkLoveFashion]

@mxtiplitz Yo soy un gran amante de la musica de Bach y te dire que siempre me gustaran mas las versiones originales pero tambien me gusta escuchar variaciones de estas. La musica no tiene por que ser cuadrada. Saludos!!!

[mxtiplitz]

@DarkLoveFashion Con todos los respetos, esto no es una variación ni estamos hablando de que la música no tenga por qué tener ciertos grados de interpretación. Estamos hablando de un minuet de Bach excesivamente adornada y tocada en tempo desastrosamente rápida. Si a Vd. le agrada le felicito, pero si se quiere presentar como una buena interpretación, le recomendaría que estudiara un poco historia de la música, dicho esto sin rencor ni menosprecio por mi parte hacia Vd. Humildemente.

[borghese84]

@mxtiplitz Excuse me but if u are an expert of theory of music you should ineeed know that baroque music is often enriched with trills and scales. And no..it's not too fast; take a metronome and measure the beats..it perfectly fits.

[mxtiplitz]

@borghese84 I know very well Sir.Koopman. In fact, I know him since I bought an HORRIBLE cd from he. and yes, I have some idea of the history of music and its environment, so I'll tell you more, the licenses that allowed Mr. Koopman harpsichord are unforgivable, but as a wise man would say pianist often, if not always, you find a good piano player from a bad one in the early stages of a simple work

[Swimmy93]

this is not gminor...this is major

[VittorioDDV]

A sweet-sounding tone refreshes sad hearts.

[6cuerdas6]

Cuidado con los argentinos como alexred1 opinan sin saber nada, por favor criticar a un Maestro de esta calidad.

Gracias

[alexred1]

@6cuerdas6 Opino con mejor criterio del que creés tener: hace años que toco clavicordio y piano, y jamás tocaría esta pieza a la velocidad que lo hace este individuo. En los facsímiles que se consiguen de Bach (sí, esta obra se consigue en facsímil del original) se ve claramente la velocidad a la que debe ejecutarse esta pieza que no se parece en nada a la "carrera" que se muestra acá.

Y si te molesta mi opinión, lo siento mucho: no soy culpable de tu necedad.

[alexred1]

@6cuerdas6 Si tu oído está estropeado, andá al médico, SORDO!!

[6cuerdas6]

@alexred1 Te parece que no se puede tener criterios diferentes en musica?

Tu primero cuida las palabras a emplear y despues piensa, medita y tal vez entiendas.

Saludos hombre del oido perfecto!!

[musicxg]

I love that elegant piano.

[zynko1234]

That would be a harpsichord my friend.

[alexred1]

Otro video igual al anterior...

Quiero hacer una pregunta: ¿Por qué lo toca TAN rápido, si esa no es la velocidad que corresponde? Así suena deslucido, molesto, hasta bruto: da la impresión que lo toca así de rápido para sacárselo de encima.

Si alguien me lo quiere explicar, por favor, soy todo oidos: no entiendo esta clase de cosas y las considero una ofensa hacia su creador.

[kefaad]

Excellent.! We can see how an easy piece like this can be played in a professional manner...

[bigbono12]

Where is this being performed, i.e. in which hall?

[SoliDeoGloria8550]

Gohliser Schlösschen, Leipzig, January 2000

[WolfgangSebastien]

6 und 8 von Jan.