O que aqui se trata é de fanatismo religioso. apenas isso e não mais do que isso. reparem que são todos brancos e bem na vida. é pena não falarem do que acontecem com outra gente de diferentes raças que não branca. o quê? pois, silêncio e mais silêncio. a minha família é "cristã'-nova". mais um silva, mas ateu. comigo não há pão para malucos!!!
The first finances prime minister of D.Afonso Henriques, firist King of Portugal ( RIP, and come back to slash some politicans) was Jew gran-Rabin ( Yahia Ben Yahia ). So, Jews, Portugal is your part of story too..You're welcome here, and it is the same feeling of Aristides Souza Mendes. Portugal is from jews too, since the beginning. So, be friends. We are all your friends. Came too see Mekor Haim sinagoga.. My regards - a portuguese who loves History.
I have recently discovered my Sephardi heritage. I am descended from Sephardi crypto jews from Fundao in Portugal and the Canary Islands, who fled to England and France after expulsion. In England they received 'asylum' but because of anti-semitism in England they remained Crypto-Jews for a few generations I think. I am so proud! I've never known where I am from. I knew we were Spanish, but never really believed it! I am just learning now about Judaism, for my ancestors. ;-( So many years...
@koobie83 unite as one and take down the structured religion people call Christianity that discriminates and that try to erase non-christian culture and identity
Both of my family names (Pereira and Costa) are named that Portuguese Jews used when there was the expulsion. I am pretty sure that I have some jewish ancestors. There were 40 000 in portugal by 1495, and 100 000 came from Spain after their expulsion which was before ours. It only makes sense!
im not a zionist, but i believe in jewish race, because of obvious markers in dna, you dont have to become religious to be a jew, its part of your blood, i consider blood before anything, a person turning to judaic religion to me hes not a jew just like a jew turning to christianity isnt a gentile or a buddist isnt a indian, if it wasnt for thise facts isrle wouldnt exist it was born of the race science of the darwin and later hitler philosophys, funny thing is, hitler didnt killed sephardic
portuguese jews even with inter marriage have more blood then ashkenazi jews because the portuguese pop was very small only about 1 million in 1500 multiply that by 10 times and jewish ppl exploded and its known that many jews continued to marry and have children with new christians jewish fam9lys were known and married with eachother its easy to recognise a jew in portugal just by face manerisms etc i think its stupid you accepting religion just because youre jew, im one but im not religious
And another major problem is the ignorance ofunderstanding of what is a Jew, that is, the diversity within Judaism, similar to religious diversity within other religions, too, as in Christianity, Islam, Spiritualism, etc.. There is very stereotype about Jews and Judaism in general, this creates xenophobia ...
Jewish history is a history of persecution. Our story involves more than religion, but also history, genealogy, migration of Jewish communities historically persecuted in several countries (not only were massacres, but forced mass conversions of the Jewish people) there is persecution and contemporaneously in different ways,explicit and implicit...
The big problem is the assimilation of Jews and the indifference of other major religions to the Jewish calendar, disregarding the cults and Jewish traditions, forcing Jews to work on sacred days and times.
when a kid does something bad in portugal the elders say: you did a jewish thing, meaning a bad thing or when they say you jew! making kid feel bad, 99% of portuguese jews dont know who they are, doctors engeneers and others dont even know they are jews, they do things and feel ankward about other things but they dont even know why they do it, or feel that way, thats how u kill a culture... whole christian religion demonized jews as judas was a jew but christ was a good non jew white christian
@badsign1980 That's a LIE! Noone in my country, as far as I know, says that when a kid does something bad. Noone says "you did a Jewish thing" for that reason.Portuguese Jews know who they are, they are Jewish citizens of Portugal, they are Portuguese and noone cares what religion do they practice. The whole Christians demonizing Jews stuff existed centuries ago, and hasn't existed anymore for a long time.What the f... is that? Do you think that here in Portugal we're still living 500 years ago?
@badsign1980 You're a shame for the Portuguese Jews! Do you think that Portuguese ppl despise Garcia de Orta, Krus Abecassis (former mayor of Lisbon) or Jorge Sampaio (former Portuguese president)? Portuguese ppl voted for Jews to rule our capital and to be president of our country! Shame on you! You don't represent Portuguese Jews! You represent yourself! In the most disgusting way!
@badsign1980 Portugal does not have discrimination against Jews. That was in the distant past. It does not mean that there is not anti-Jewish words in the language somewhere. In France, when you hit your leg on something, they say something like a Jew hit me. However, it doesn't carry the original meaning for French people. They don't think in anti-French way when they say it. Originally, yes. Times have changed. You shouldn't confuse the past with the present.
do you know who creates the new york stock exchange? portuguese jews, do you know who was the first jews in the usa? p+ortuguese jews, do you know who wrote the famous poem: bring me your poor and your starving...? a jewish women a portuguese jewish women
I read of an incident in history where many Jews kicked out of Spain went to Portugal. They were then kicked out of Portugal, many went to the Netherlands. The ones who had children under five were not allowed to bring the children with them. They were held by the Portuguese and raised as Christians. These children would not have been marranos, they would not have been "secret" Jews. They would not have know about Judaism.Probably all of Portugal has some Jewish ancestry by this point.
There is something that is not clear. The word "Marrano" refers to Jews who were converted to catholicism, by force, but remained Jews in secret. Since some people here claimed they "discovered" they were Jewish, it would lead one to believe that after the first generation of converts many weren't aware they were in fact marranos. There must have been much intermarriage between the marranos and the Portuguese.
Descendants of anusim married each other, and were careful about that, so the ones who remain might be quite Jewish by ancestry, even if they lack information or knowledge. Now that the Catholic church has opened the registry of the names of families and individuals who converted, people can research this matter and find their descent. But, yes, many did assimilate into Portuguese society.
@72Yonatan OK but why does some Jewish heritage mean someone should convert to Judaism? Most Jews living in the US do not follow the religion. They do not keep the laws. They are in effect living as christians, they are more interested in the spirit of the law rather than the letter.
Do whatever you want, but try to remember that the Olam Haba is eternal, and this world is temporary and fleeting, like a shadow. The artificial dichotomy that you raise has no place in Judaism, and everyone knows that the Reform movement had as its primary goal the total assimilation of Jews. Now they are starting to reassess that goal in the past 30 years, since they have lost so many members (of course, what would they expect?). No "moral high-ground" against Judaism exists.
@72Yonatan On the contrary my friend. One can keep all of the laws and do it all for the wrong reason-pride and vanity and the desire to judge those that don't. It is what is in the heart that is more important than is what is on the outside. It is not uncommon for the orthodox community to have some of the worst criminals amongst them, embezzlers, cheaters, but since they keep the laws about outward things such as the sabbath, the dietary laws, dress codes etc the orthodox community portects m
Apparently you think that you are smarter than God, which is quite impossible. The Creator made all human beings, and therefore He knows what is best for us, and that lifestyle was commanded through His true prophets. Reformists are not prophets for anyone, but apologists, and their goal was and still is assimilation.
Saying that someone may do a command without focus or without intention is irrelevant. Does it matter if someone does not murder you, but they had "wrong motives"?
@72Yonatan NO, apparently you think you are God. YOu are no such thing. You are the type of person that gets in the way with someone's relationship with God. You are the type of person that turns people into atheists because they see someone like you, a hypocrite, all full of vanity and pride, someone who is nothing like he claims to be representing, and they say, if that is religion I want no part of it. Be mechanical and dead, live by your letters but you only comfort yourself, u do nt fce gd
You are just slandering and name calling and insulting, because you do not have the right attitude. You have obviously been tainted with the faith of the oppressor: Edom.
And it is certainly the Edomim who are filled with pride and arrogance, and who engineered most of the bloodshed of history. You have denigrated Judaism here, and I am one Portuguese person for whom you may not do this and get away with it. You treat us lightly because you are far from Jews, and far from truth.
You are the sleepwalker here, Indy. But the times will not let you sleep. This is the birthpangs of the Messianic age, and it is high time to wake up. And I do face God, not my own ideas or some fake liberal ideology.
@72Yonatan after all this centuries how can we know our ancestry? and almost of jew they simply past to catholic without any past registration... and, really, we dont care about our ancestry, and i dont understand how someone can past to jew by ancestry, if want be jew be jew...
@Indygoguy In fact the word "Marrano" was a darogatory word to describe jews. marrano or marraõ in Portuguese means pig and was used by the inqusition to discribe Jews they would catch secretly practicing Judaism. But you are right, may jews were outbred due to intermarriages. However there were small communities all over the country that maneged to keep marriages within the community still till today.
Message for Sephardic Jews in Israel: Please come back to your land to where you fled when the Babylonians invaded your ancient land; come back to Portugal and Spain, you won't find Inquisition here now and, as I truly believe, never again. Message to Portuguese and Spanish govts: Grant Sephardis the right of return to Iberia, from where they were expelled by the Satanic Inquisition. Sephardic Jews shall be welcome again to Iberia, their homeland for more than 1500 years. Let's unite again here!
Maybe to visit only, but never again to live there. Israel is reborn in our generation, and it is my duty to live here openly as a Jew, never again having to hide or to be "discreet" for fear of discovery or punishment. This is a once in a thousand year opportunity. But I love Portugal, and Spain is a beautiful country. There is a place in the corner of my heart where they will always exist.
Portuguese Jews are Portuguese like any other Portuguese. I'd prefer that they stayed here, instead of going to Aaliyah, to a very troubled country. I wished that there was never any Inquisition and that these Portuguese ppl would now feel well enough here so they woundn't want to leave this country. I also think that Jews with Portuguese acestory should be granted the right to return to here. Their roots are here, in far more recent times than that of their expulsion from Israel by the Romans.
Brasil in south America is Another land that received a large population of Jewish descends is Brazil. The biggest catholic country in the world is probably also on of the biggest Jewish descendents in the whole world. Half the people who attends to the Sunday mass in brazil has Jewish blood and don´t know anything about it. Same families which had discovered their past ties with Judaism had returned to theirs forefathers faith.
I am descendent of Portuguese Jews too, but the poor ones cause they fled from 1506s Lisbon massacre to the mountains of Portugal. They had no money to go abroad...
I dont have intention to do the return, by I am proud of my ancestry though.
My dad's family and my mom's mother's family were all crypto-jews from Portugal , then the Acores and Madeira till the late 1800s when they went to Hawaii. I returned to Judaism 15 yrs ago. Our family names are Da Costa Lindo and Oliveira. This video brings tears to my eyes!
I don't know wheter I am Jewish but I have a "natural" affinity towards Jewish people and Judaism. And that IS a tell tell sign isn't it !? I should have my DNA tested !!! :)))
I had that affinity too. Then a few years ago I started researching my ancestry. Sure enough, I found several Jewish ancestors that dated back a few hundred years. I also did Ydna and mtdna tests. The Y side is the 2nd most prevalent among Azkanazi Jews even though it came through Spain. The mt side is from S. Austria/N. Italy. But, those dna lines didn't connect to the Jews found in my search b/c of the shuffle of marriages through the generations-not dad to son or mom to daughter.
Just look at our telephone book. It is very difficult to find a last name that is not jewish: Carvalho, Cardoso( our last president), Rezende, Andrade etc.Some like me, have all the ancestors descending from cripto-jews that were thrown away from Portugal.
Many people are doing Teshuva!
The problem is, if we all should go back to Israel, for the end of times, Israel will need to expand his boards!
Yes, we know this in Israel, for example i know brazilian girl who lives in Israel - she looks totally Israeli. This is why Anusim can convert (return) to Judaism, because only by blood you can be jewish. One who has no blood bond to the seed of Judah, can't convert to be "son of Judah", but only take the belief in G-d.
I am partly descended from Portuguese, Italian and Spanish Jews who fled The Inquisition into Eastern Europe. If you aren't religious fine, but don't turn your back on your Jewish Heritage. You have a right to it!
@gitlgitl Jewish heritage and identity is a double edged sword. One can not be a true individual when one clings to such an "identity". Why let a heritage define who one is. That has been the struggle for Jews for generations, to escape being defined by stereotypes and definitions.
Infelizmente, já não vamos a tempo de minorar a atrocidade que fizemos aos judeus portugueses nossos compatriotas séculos atrás. Foram expulsões, conversões forçadas, massacres, enfim, 1 mancha vergonhosa na nossa história.
Maiores atrocidades se fizeram aos marroquinos e não nutro qualquer sentimento de pena por isso. Ainda bem que assim foi, Portugal assim fica mais Europeu.
@jfarinhote -Gostava de saber o queé que V.Exª. entende por isso de Portugal ficar assim mais europeu?!-No minimo esta sua afirmação revela "algum" desconhecimento da história Lusa.~
@Andre2010 Ainda vamos a tempo de fazer alguma coisa para, não minorar, que isso é impossível, mas compensar de alguma forma as atrocidades que fizemos aos nossos compatriotas judeus durante a inquisição: conceder aos judeus de origem portuguesa facilidades de retorno a Portugal; acolhê-los como podemos acolher de volta qualquer luso-descendente; oficializar claramente uma penitência nacional pelo que fizemos às suas famílias e ensinar mais a tragédia da inquisição nas nossas escolas.
I'm a portuguese Jew. My family are "marranos" as far as they can be traced and some have moved to Israel. However i am also an atheist and i see no need for all this religious stuff as i feel that it gets in the way of my freedom as an individual. To me being a jew is my ethnic and i will fight for my people and for Israel if i have to, but no religion please.
Palavras maravilhosas . Assim se fala. Verdade como eu sou tambem Judeu de Portugal.... Holocausto...nunca mais e os que querem limpar Israel do mapa do mundo, sofrerao o castigo que D.s lhes manda.
A Jew is a Jew if his mother is Jewish. That is according to the Torah. And of course makes perfect sense. In a more clear and explainable way a Jew is a Jew if the household where it grew up is a Jewish household and that most likely is instructed by the Mother of the house since is the one that spends the whole time with the children. If a Jew is born in a non Jewish environment he needs to do Tshuva. Anusim=non religious Jew. Remember No Jewish mother no Jewish house environment
@weapt I know that i'm Portuguese and that my country is Portugal. I do not need to be told that. In fact, i'm very patriotic and proud to be so. But i am also a Jew and so were my parents and grand parents and the generations before them. I percive being Jewish as my ethnicity. therefor jewish people are my people too, and by default there will be an afinity towards Israel which is the homeland of all jews, and where i feel at home when i travel there.
Please watch the new Movie that came out by Rabbi Mizrachi. It is a must see. You can access it on Torahanytime(.) com. Go to Rabbi Mizrachi- and all the way down, second to last video titled " 12/16/08 Amazing New Movie IN ENGLISH"
- It's a once in a lifetime opportunity, please do not miss out.
about thirty percent of its population portuguese are of jewish descent are the sons of the Jews converted by the Inquisition,Today the majority of the population is Catholic, but the Jewish presence makes itself felt in Portuguese cuisine, customs and way of being
@xxisvante The inquisition was centuries ago. The offspring of converted Jews must have intermarried with the Portuguese unless there was a conscious effort to only marry the offspring of other converted Jews. Were the "marranos" aware they were marranos and if so did they only marry other marranos? If not, then eventually all Portuguese must have some Jewish ancestry.
Before my genealogy study, I always felt a very strong connection to Jews and everything Jewish. As a young man, I shared this feeling with mother who I thought would say I was silly as our identity was MX-American (interestingly, my family was often mistaken for Italian). To my surprise, she told me that she too had always had the same feeling. In my study, I have learned that many hispanics from South Texas, Northern Mexico and New Mexico descend from Jewish ancestors. This makes me so happy!
I feel the same as you describe. I have look in a website of apellidos sefarditas and I have found my lastnames and the lasnames of my parents. I just wish I could find out for sure. May be you could help me.
sidtapia, I have done extensive genealogy research in which I found Jewish ancestors such as Abraham Ha-Levi & Menem Ha-Lavi (de la Caballeria). Also, my YDNA is semetic according to FTDNA. Have you had your YDNA or mtDNA tested? Say for example your immediate dna isn't semetic, Jewish ancestry may still be present in your other lines through intermarriage that occured from the 1500's to present-day Northern Mexico/American Southwest. A genealogy study may help. Hope this helps, best wishes.
I found out that I have Jewish ancestry when my son was born. He has 17 hydroxyprogesterone and we Ashkenazy wite blood cell marker. My husband, also found that he has Jewish heritage. Only people of Hispanic, Yuguslav, and European Jew have the congenital problem that we have.
My husband is English and I am Brazilian. Found out after asking my father if we had Jews in our family and he that all his dad's family are Jews, from Spain. My mom also has Jewish ancestry as her family is from Galicia region.
I am returning home after years of doubt. I have tried Catholicism, being a Protestant, but my somehow I always had an afinity for the Jewish faith and life. I am also doing the Return.
I encourage all hispanics to get a ancestral DNA test to see if you have Jewish blood in your veins. Many crypto Jews married Native American women (Indians)in the moutains of Mexico during the 1600s-1700s. This means that many Mexicans may have Jewish blood.
yes there are a lot of cryto Jews around the world but rest assure GOD knows where they are and will bring them back, in Spain, Italy, Germany ect.ect
My wife & I r Mex-Americans. I began personal genealogy studies 4 both of us per a deep yearning I felt. Results: We both have documented Jewish ancestors. Additionally, my YDNA is Semetic, & my wife's direct ancestor is Luis Carbajal, El Mozo, the Judiazer burned at the stake in Mexico City by the Inquisition. Also, my grandmother practiced Jewish customs. When asked why, she didn't know except that it was tradition. However, we also descend from Spanish, Portugese, & Italian ancestors as well.
I looked in a website of sephardic lastnames and I found my lastnames and the lastnames of my parents. do you know where I can get a DNA test (for less than $130.00 US dlls.?)
Lots of people in my family have Jewish Sephardic surnames. I guess I should make a deeper research about my ancestors since I have this weird feeling towards Jews and Judaism, I don't know, I have consdered conversion SEVERAL times, but seeing as I am very spiritually confused I alwasys change my mind about evrything, but yeah something always leads me towards Judaism, never ever considered other religions actually, I always go from considering Judaism to then an agnotic state...wadya think?
what is your last name? you can also investigate through your roots themselves, not just dna, as many names are SOLELY jewish and very particular. if you name was not one that is common for 2 cultures, then you are very likely related to us! either way, find out, if they wronged your family in the past, you have every right to reclaim your HERITAGE. something im sure so many (such as african americans) would only dream of doing...:-(
And for them to come to their homeland,we should make our Israel become the great TSION!,from sea to sea!From Nilus to Ephrates.Thus we have much more place for our lost brothers.
What do you say about my idea?))Original,isn't it?))
Maravilho e impressionante.........e o que posso dizer!! Sempre curioso acerca dos Judeus Portugueses ""marranos"" pena e que a comunidade do Porto e ainda pequena Ben haja G.d bless you
O que aqui se trata é de fanatismo religioso. apenas isso e não mais do que isso. reparem que são todos brancos e bem na vida. é pena não falarem do que acontecem com outra gente de diferentes raças que não branca. o quê? pois, silêncio e mais silêncio. a minha família é "cristã'-nova". mais um silva, mas ateu. comigo não há pão para malucos!!!
aphrikevic 1 week ago
The first finances prime minister of D.Afonso Henriques, firist King of Portugal ( RIP, and come back to slash some politicans) was Jew gran-Rabin ( Yahia Ben Yahia ). So, Jews, Portugal is your part of story too..You're welcome here, and it is the same feeling of Aristides Souza Mendes. Portugal is from jews too, since the beginning. So, be friends. We are all your friends. Came too see Mekor Haim sinagoga.. My regards - a portuguese who loves History.
Geko2006 2 weeks ago
what i was saying is that that is an connotation that comes from past, like when old people say_ fizeste uma judeiria... fizeste algo mau, ou mal...
ukusapillage 1 month ago
I have recently discovered my Sephardi heritage. I am descended from Sephardi crypto jews from Fundao in Portugal and the Canary Islands, who fled to England and France after expulsion. In England they received 'asylum' but because of anti-semitism in England they remained Crypto-Jews for a few generations I think. I am so proud! I've never known where I am from. I knew we were Spanish, but never really believed it! I am just learning now about Judaism, for my ancestors. ;-( So many years...
koobie83 2 months ago
@koobie83 unite as one and take down the structured religion people call Christianity that discriminates and that try to erase non-christian culture and identity
ranondo92 2 months ago
@ranondo92
Murderer
nicopopoify 4 weeks ago
Both of my family names (Pereira and Costa) are named that Portuguese Jews used when there was the expulsion. I am pretty sure that I have some jewish ancestors. There were 40 000 in portugal by 1495, and 100 000 came from Spain after their expulsion which was before ours. It only makes sense!
lusoguyJesuspower 3 months ago
sephardic jews portuguese jews living in hamburg since the 16 century never had any problems even during the hitlers reign
ukusapillage 3 months ago
im not a zionist, but i believe in jewish race, because of obvious markers in dna, you dont have to become religious to be a jew, its part of your blood, i consider blood before anything, a person turning to judaic religion to me hes not a jew just like a jew turning to christianity isnt a gentile or a buddist isnt a indian, if it wasnt for thise facts isrle wouldnt exist it was born of the race science of the darwin and later hitler philosophys, funny thing is, hitler didnt killed sephardic
ukusapillage 3 months ago
portuguese jews even with inter marriage have more blood then ashkenazi jews because the portuguese pop was very small only about 1 million in 1500 multiply that by 10 times and jewish ppl exploded and its known that many jews continued to marry and have children with new christians jewish fam9lys were known and married with eachother its easy to recognise a jew in portugal just by face manerisms etc i think its stupid you accepting religion just because youre jew, im one but im not religious
ukusapillage 3 months ago
if every portuguese jew returned to israel israel would have to take about 4 million ppl in
ukusapillage 3 months ago
And another major problem is the ignorance ofunderstanding of what is a Jew, that is, the diversity within Judaism, similar to religious diversity within other religions, too, as in Christianity, Islam, Spiritualism, etc.. There is very stereotype about Jews and Judaism in general, this creates xenophobia ...
Alan Freire de Lima
Alan Freire de Lima
freudfreire 3 months ago
Jewish history is a history of persecution. Our story involves more than religion, but also history, genealogy, migration of Jewish communities historically persecuted in several countries (not only were massacres, but forced mass conversions of the Jewish people) there is persecution and contemporaneously in different ways,explicit and implicit...
Alan Freire de Lima
freudfreire 3 months ago
The big problem is the assimilation of Jews and the indifference of other major religions to the Jewish calendar, disregarding the cults and Jewish traditions, forcing Jews to work on sacred days and times.
Alan Freire de Lima
freudfreire 3 months ago
more signs that Moshiac is coming
AbuAvital 6 months ago
actually the first form of religion is indu indian... the first with only one god was zorastra in iran or persia
badsign1980 10 months ago
when a kid does something bad in portugal the elders say: you did a jewish thing, meaning a bad thing or when they say you jew! making kid feel bad, 99% of portuguese jews dont know who they are, doctors engeneers and others dont even know they are jews, they do things and feel ankward about other things but they dont even know why they do it, or feel that way, thats how u kill a culture... whole christian religion demonized jews as judas was a jew but christ was a good non jew white christian
badsign1980 10 months ago
@badsign1980 That's a LIE! Noone in my country, as far as I know, says that when a kid does something bad. Noone says "you did a Jewish thing" for that reason.Portuguese Jews know who they are, they are Jewish citizens of Portugal, they are Portuguese and noone cares what religion do they practice. The whole Christians demonizing Jews stuff existed centuries ago, and hasn't existed anymore for a long time.What the f... is that? Do you think that here in Portugal we're still living 500 years ago?
nmgscp 9 months ago
@badsign1980 You're a shame for the Portuguese Jews! Do you think that Portuguese ppl despise Garcia de Orta, Krus Abecassis (former mayor of Lisbon) or Jorge Sampaio (former Portuguese president)? Portuguese ppl voted for Jews to rule our capital and to be president of our country! Shame on you! You don't represent Portuguese Jews! You represent yourself! In the most disgusting way!
nmgscp 9 months ago
@badsign1980 Portugal does not have discrimination against Jews. That was in the distant past. It does not mean that there is not anti-Jewish words in the language somewhere. In France, when you hit your leg on something, they say something like a Jew hit me. However, it doesn't carry the original meaning for French people. They don't think in anti-French way when they say it. Originally, yes. Times have changed. You shouldn't confuse the past with the present.
QUINTUSMAXIMUS 6 months ago
Judaism is a beautiful religion, the 1st that all other religions derive from.
luv5e1 10 months ago
im sorry, not creates but created the stock exchange in new york city, the wall street was created by portuguese jews
badsign1980 10 months ago
do you know who creates the new york stock exchange? portuguese jews, do you know who was the first jews in the usa? p+ortuguese jews, do you know who wrote the famous poem: bring me your poor and your starving...? a jewish women a portuguese jewish women
badsign1980 10 months ago
there are guys who dont look like jews but these porto jews are the real marranos
badsign1980 11 months ago
spanish music with spanish lyrics... ignorant fools
badsign1980 1 year ago
@badsign1980 its a ladino song called avraham avinu....ladino its similar to spanish...
schnorrer 10 months ago
I read of an incident in history where many Jews kicked out of Spain went to Portugal. They were then kicked out of Portugal, many went to the Netherlands. The ones who had children under five were not allowed to bring the children with them. They were held by the Portuguese and raised as Christians. These children would not have been marranos, they would not have been "secret" Jews. They would not have know about Judaism.Probably all of Portugal has some Jewish ancestry by this point.
Indygoguy 1 year ago
There is something that is not clear. The word "Marrano" refers to Jews who were converted to catholicism, by force, but remained Jews in secret. Since some people here claimed they "discovered" they were Jewish, it would lead one to believe that after the first generation of converts many weren't aware they were in fact marranos. There must have been much intermarriage between the marranos and the Portuguese.
Indygoguy 1 year ago
@Indygoguy
Descendants of anusim married each other, and were careful about that, so the ones who remain might be quite Jewish by ancestry, even if they lack information or knowledge. Now that the Catholic church has opened the registry of the names of families and individuals who converted, people can research this matter and find their descent. But, yes, many did assimilate into Portuguese society.
72Yonatan 1 year ago
@72Yonatan OK but why does some Jewish heritage mean someone should convert to Judaism? Most Jews living in the US do not follow the religion. They do not keep the laws. They are in effect living as christians, they are more interested in the spirit of the law rather than the letter.
Indygoguy 1 year ago 2
@Indygoguy
Do whatever you want, but try to remember that the Olam Haba is eternal, and this world is temporary and fleeting, like a shadow. The artificial dichotomy that you raise has no place in Judaism, and everyone knows that the Reform movement had as its primary goal the total assimilation of Jews. Now they are starting to reassess that goal in the past 30 years, since they have lost so many members (of course, what would they expect?). No "moral high-ground" against Judaism exists.
72Yonatan 1 year ago
@72Yonatan On the contrary my friend. One can keep all of the laws and do it all for the wrong reason-pride and vanity and the desire to judge those that don't. It is what is in the heart that is more important than is what is on the outside. It is not uncommon for the orthodox community to have some of the worst criminals amongst them, embezzlers, cheaters, but since they keep the laws about outward things such as the sabbath, the dietary laws, dress codes etc the orthodox community portects m
Indygoguy 1 year ago 2
@Indygoguy
Apparently you think that you are smarter than God, which is quite impossible. The Creator made all human beings, and therefore He knows what is best for us, and that lifestyle was commanded through His true prophets. Reformists are not prophets for anyone, but apologists, and their goal was and still is assimilation.
Saying that someone may do a command without focus or without intention is irrelevant. Does it matter if someone does not murder you, but they had "wrong motives"?
72Yonatan 1 year ago
@72Yonatan NO, apparently you think you are God. YOu are no such thing. You are the type of person that gets in the way with someone's relationship with God. You are the type of person that turns people into atheists because they see someone like you, a hypocrite, all full of vanity and pride, someone who is nothing like he claims to be representing, and they say, if that is religion I want no part of it. Be mechanical and dead, live by your letters but you only comfort yourself, u do nt fce gd
Indygoguy 1 year ago
@Indygoguy
You are just slandering and name calling and insulting, because you do not have the right attitude. You have obviously been tainted with the faith of the oppressor: Edom.
And it is certainly the Edomim who are filled with pride and arrogance, and who engineered most of the bloodshed of history. You have denigrated Judaism here, and I am one Portuguese person for whom you may not do this and get away with it. You treat us lightly because you are far from Jews, and far from truth.
72Yonatan 1 year ago
You are the sleepwalker here, Indy. But the times will not let you sleep. This is the birthpangs of the Messianic age, and it is high time to wake up. And I do face God, not my own ideas or some fake liberal ideology.
72Yonatan 1 year ago
@72Yonatan after all this centuries how can we know our ancestry? and almost of jew they simply past to catholic without any past registration... and, really, we dont care about our ancestry, and i dont understand how someone can past to jew by ancestry, if want be jew be jew...
Kchinha 1 year ago
@Indygoguy In fact the word "Marrano" was a darogatory word to describe jews. marrano or marraõ in Portuguese means pig and was used by the inqusition to discribe Jews they would catch secretly practicing Judaism. But you are right, may jews were outbred due to intermarriages. However there were small communities all over the country that maneged to keep marriages within the community still till today.
viviryder 6 months ago
Message for Sephardic Jews in Israel: Please come back to your land to where you fled when the Babylonians invaded your ancient land; come back to Portugal and Spain, you won't find Inquisition here now and, as I truly believe, never again. Message to Portuguese and Spanish govts: Grant Sephardis the right of return to Iberia, from where they were expelled by the Satanic Inquisition. Sephardic Jews shall be welcome again to Iberia, their homeland for more than 1500 years. Let's unite again here!
nmgscp 1 year ago 2
@nmgscp
Maybe to visit only, but never again to live there. Israel is reborn in our generation, and it is my duty to live here openly as a Jew, never again having to hide or to be "discreet" for fear of discovery or punishment. This is a once in a thousand year opportunity. But I love Portugal, and Spain is a beautiful country. There is a place in the corner of my heart where they will always exist.
72Yonatan 1 year ago
Portuguese Jews are Portuguese like any other Portuguese. I'd prefer that they stayed here, instead of going to Aaliyah, to a very troubled country. I wished that there was never any Inquisition and that these Portuguese ppl would now feel well enough here so they woundn't want to leave this country. I also think that Jews with Portuguese acestory should be granted the right to return to here. Their roots are here, in far more recent times than that of their expulsion from Israel by the Romans.
nmgscp 1 year ago 8
Taqqiya Jews!
Salahuddin10001 1 year ago
Brasil in south America is Another land that received a large population of Jewish descends is Brazil. The biggest catholic country in the world is probably also on of the biggest Jewish descendents in the whole world. Half the people who attends to the Sunday mass in brazil has Jewish blood and don´t know anything about it. Same families which had discovered their past ties with Judaism had returned to theirs forefathers faith.
engenheirocps 1 year ago 2
לחזור ליהדות - לא אומר שצריך להיות דתי וחרדי. הרוב בישראל חילוניים.
glazerb 1 year ago
I am descendent of Portuguese Jews too, but the poor ones cause they fled from 1506s Lisbon massacre to the mountains of Portugal. They had no money to go abroad...
I dont have intention to do the return, by I am proud of my ancestry though.
MegaSreis 1 year ago 3
interesting!
adric137 1 year ago
Subs...someone....:D
elcamaleon1 1 year ago
My dad's family and my mom's mother's family were all crypto-jews from Portugal , then the Acores and Madeira till the late 1800s when they went to Hawaii. I returned to Judaism 15 yrs ago. Our family names are Da Costa Lindo and Oliveira. This video brings tears to my eyes!
deviantbadger 2 years ago 5
@deviantbadger comeback to portugal you and your people
weapt 1 year ago
Wonderful is tis movement around the world
Shalom
thomasodi 2 years ago 3
I don't know wheter I am Jewish but I have a "natural" affinity towards Jewish people and Judaism. And that IS a tell tell sign isn't it !? I should have my DNA tested !!! :)))
NaturalBornHedonist 2 years ago 4
I had that affinity too. Then a few years ago I started researching my ancestry. Sure enough, I found several Jewish ancestors that dated back a few hundred years. I also did Ydna and mtdna tests. The Y side is the 2nd most prevalent among Azkanazi Jews even though it came through Spain. The mt side is from S. Austria/N. Italy. But, those dna lines didn't connect to the Jews found in my search b/c of the shuffle of marriages through the generations-not dad to son or mom to daughter.
guatay 2 years ago
Same here
Kuner1 2 years ago
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wlwak 1 year ago
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eu descobri que tenho ancestrais judeus....nao mudo nada,so vou viver uns 80 anos
e continuo achando que o olocausto foi planejado pelos judeus......protocolo de siao
mundo terrivel =/
thomaskmonteiro 2 years ago
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xxisvante 2 years ago
Sepharad is in Brazil nowadays.
Just look at our telephone book. It is very difficult to find a last name that is not jewish: Carvalho, Cardoso( our last president), Rezende, Andrade etc.Some like me, have all the ancestors descending from cripto-jews that were thrown away from Portugal.
Many people are doing Teshuva!
The problem is, if we all should go back to Israel, for the end of times, Israel will need to expand his boards!
contessabaldelli 2 years ago 3
Yes, we know this in Israel, for example i know brazilian girl who lives in Israel - she looks totally Israeli. This is why Anusim can convert (return) to Judaism, because only by blood you can be jewish. One who has no blood bond to the seed of Judah, can't convert to be "son of Judah", but only take the belief in G-d.
Greyshark09 2 years ago
I am partly descended from Portuguese, Italian and Spanish Jews who fled The Inquisition into Eastern Europe. If you aren't religious fine, but don't turn your back on your Jewish Heritage. You have a right to it!
gitlgitl 2 years ago 13
My friend so i.m i but in the US Shalom
mascote1253 2 years ago
@gitlgitl Jewish heritage and identity is a double edged sword. One can not be a true individual when one clings to such an "identity". Why let a heritage define who one is. That has been the struggle for Jews for generations, to escape being defined by stereotypes and definitions.
Indygoguy 1 year ago
welcom home beutifull brothers and sisters!
odokokan 2 years ago 5
Infelizmente, já não vamos a tempo de minorar a atrocidade que fizemos aos judeus portugueses nossos compatriotas séculos atrás. Foram expulsões, conversões forçadas, massacres, enfim, 1 mancha vergonhosa na nossa história.
Andre2010 2 years ago 8
Andre, meu amigo e irmao ha sempre tempo ainda ha tempo para lutar contra os que nos querem mal
mascote1253 2 years ago
Maiores atrocidades se fizeram aos marroquinos e não nutro qualquer sentimento de pena por isso. Ainda bem que assim foi, Portugal assim fica mais Europeu.
jfarinhote 2 years ago
@jfarinhote -Gostava de saber o queé que V.Exª. entende por isso de Portugal ficar assim mais europeu?!-No minimo esta sua afirmação revela "algum" desconhecimento da história Lusa.~
Cordialmente
Joaquim Reis
reis0reis 1 year ago
@reis0reis Pessoas de origem europeia.
jfarinhote 1 year ago
@Andre2010 Ainda vamos a tempo de fazer alguma coisa para, não minorar, que isso é impossível, mas compensar de alguma forma as atrocidades que fizemos aos nossos compatriotas judeus durante a inquisição: conceder aos judeus de origem portuguesa facilidades de retorno a Portugal; acolhê-los como podemos acolher de volta qualquer luso-descendente; oficializar claramente uma penitência nacional pelo que fizemos às suas famílias e ensinar mais a tragédia da inquisição nas nossas escolas.
nmgscp 1 year ago
I'm a portuguese Jew. My family are "marranos" as far as they can be traced and some have moved to Israel. However i am also an atheist and i see no need for all this religious stuff as i feel that it gets in the way of my freedom as an individual. To me being a jew is my ethnic and i will fight for my people and for Israel if i have to, but no religion please.
viviryder 3 years ago 6
Same here. My ethnicity is still Jewish but I am not religious.
fairyprincess1234 2 years ago 3
you not have to be religous to be Jew
52% of the Jews in Israel are secular
but it's fun to celebrate the Jewish holidays,
to celebrate Bar/Bat Mitsvah,
and also to immigrant to Israel
Yuval012 2 years ago
Palavras maravilhosas . Assim se fala. Verdade como eu sou tambem Judeu de Portugal.... Holocausto...nunca mais e os que querem limpar Israel do mapa do mundo, sofrerao o castigo que D.s lhes manda.
mascote1253 2 years ago
I feel the exact same way. I am jewish ethnically and love Israel. However I am an atheist and don't believe in religious mambo jambo bullsh*t.
NYSalsaholic 2 years ago
A Jew is a Jew if his mother is Jewish. That is according to the Torah. And of course makes perfect sense. In a more clear and explainable way a Jew is a Jew if the household where it grew up is a Jewish household and that most likely is instructed by the Mother of the house since is the one that spends the whole time with the children. If a Jew is born in a non Jewish environment he needs to do Tshuva. Anusim=non religious Jew. Remember No Jewish mother no Jewish house environment
sepharadflorida 2 years ago
@viviryder if your descent from portuguese jews... your people is portuguese and your country is portugal.
weapt 6 months ago
@weapt I know that i'm Portuguese and that my country is Portugal. I do not need to be told that. In fact, i'm very patriotic and proud to be so. But i am also a Jew and so were my parents and grand parents and the generations before them. I percive being Jewish as my ethnicity. therefor jewish people are my people too, and by default there will be an afinity towards Israel which is the homeland of all jews, and where i feel at home when i travel there.
viviryder 6 months ago
Please watch the new Movie that came out by Rabbi Mizrachi. It is a must see. You can access it on Torahanytime(.) com. Go to Rabbi Mizrachi- and all the way down, second to last video titled " 12/16/08 Amazing New Movie IN ENGLISH"
- It's a once in a lifetime opportunity, please do not miss out.
extazy17 3 years ago
about thirty percent of its population portuguese are of jewish descent are the sons of the Jews converted by the Inquisition,Today the majority of the population is Catholic, but the Jewish presence makes itself felt in Portuguese cuisine, customs and way of being
xxisvante 3 years ago 16
@xxisvante The inquisition was centuries ago. The offspring of converted Jews must have intermarried with the Portuguese unless there was a conscious effort to only marry the offspring of other converted Jews. Were the "marranos" aware they were marranos and if so did they only marry other marranos? If not, then eventually all Portuguese must have some Jewish ancestry.
Indygoguy 1 year ago
בעזרת ה׳ העלייה שלהם לא תהיה קשה לא יתנגדו לה כי הם מאירופה ולא מהודו ועד כוש. :)
abuzinnar 3 years ago 4
beezrat hashem koolanu mishpaha - together we must stand. separate we will fall.
MayaKLan 3 years ago
Before my genealogy study, I always felt a very strong connection to Jews and everything Jewish. As a young man, I shared this feeling with mother who I thought would say I was silly as our identity was MX-American (interestingly, my family was often mistaken for Italian). To my surprise, she told me that she too had always had the same feeling. In my study, I have learned that many hispanics from South Texas, Northern Mexico and New Mexico descend from Jewish ancestors. This makes me so happy!
guatay 3 years ago 2
I feel the same as you describe. I have look in a website of apellidos sefarditas and I have found my lastnames and the lasnames of my parents. I just wish I could find out for sure. May be you could help me.
sidtapia09 3 years ago
sidtapia, I have done extensive genealogy research in which I found Jewish ancestors such as Abraham Ha-Levi & Menem Ha-Lavi (de la Caballeria). Also, my YDNA is semetic according to FTDNA. Have you had your YDNA or mtDNA tested? Say for example your immediate dna isn't semetic, Jewish ancestry may still be present in your other lines through intermarriage that occured from the 1500's to present-day Northern Mexico/American Southwest. A genealogy study may help. Hope this helps, best wishes.
guatay 3 years ago
I found out that I have Jewish ancestry when my son was born. He has 17 hydroxyprogesterone and we Ashkenazy wite blood cell marker. My husband, also found that he has Jewish heritage. Only people of Hispanic, Yuguslav, and European Jew have the congenital problem that we have.
shakakan33 2 years ago
My husband is English and I am Brazilian. Found out after asking my father if we had Jews in our family and he that all his dad's family are Jews, from Spain. My mom also has Jewish ancestry as her family is from Galicia region.
I am returning home after years of doubt. I have tried Catholicism, being a Protestant, but my somehow I always had an afinity for the Jewish faith and life. I am also doing the Return.
Shalom!
shakakan33 2 years ago 3
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wlwak 1 year ago
May all the remnants of Israel return!!!!
yerushalayim 3 years ago
bravo eo tanbem so portugues maranno returnei o judaismo tambem
Alex1line 3 years ago
pobre diabo !!
rpalma72 3 years ago
Pobre diablo sos vos, que no tenes apertura mental. Idiota!!
BernardoD 3 years ago
I encourage all hispanics to get a ancestral DNA test to see if you have Jewish blood in your veins. Many crypto Jews married Native American women (Indians)in the moutains of Mexico during the 1600s-1700s. This means that many Mexicans may have Jewish blood.
odcoolshark75 3 years ago 2
od
yes there are a lot of cryto Jews around the world but rest assure GOD knows where they are and will bring them back, in Spain, Italy, Germany ect.ect
Am Yisroel chai
hannahr77 3 years ago
My wife & I r Mex-Americans. I began personal genealogy studies 4 both of us per a deep yearning I felt. Results: We both have documented Jewish ancestors. Additionally, my YDNA is Semetic, & my wife's direct ancestor is Luis Carbajal, El Mozo, the Judiazer burned at the stake in Mexico City by the Inquisition. Also, my grandmother practiced Jewish customs. When asked why, she didn't know except that it was tradition. However, we also descend from Spanish, Portugese, & Italian ancestors as well.
guatay 3 years ago
That is so cool!
odcoolshark75 3 years ago 2
I looked in a website of sephardic lastnames and I found my lastnames and the lastnames of my parents. do you know where I can get a DNA test (for less than $130.00 US dlls.?)
sidtapia09 3 years ago
Lots of people in my family have Jewish Sephardic surnames. I guess I should make a deeper research about my ancestors since I have this weird feeling towards Jews and Judaism, I don't know, I have consdered conversion SEVERAL times, but seeing as I am very spiritually confused I alwasys change my mind about evrything, but yeah something always leads me towards Judaism, never ever considered other religions actually, I always go from considering Judaism to then an agnotic state...wadya think?
ixeatxbabiesxlol 3 years ago 2
sid, look on the Family Tree DNA site online.
guatay 3 years ago
yeah, go to FamilyTreeDNAdotcom
mexicansemite 3 years ago
what is your last name? you can also investigate through your roots themselves, not just dna, as many names are SOLELY jewish and very particular. if you name was not one that is common for 2 cultures, then you are very likely related to us! either way, find out, if they wronged your family in the past, you have every right to reclaim your HERITAGE. something im sure so many (such as african americans) would only dream of doing...:-(
MayaKLan 3 years ago 3
There HUNDREDS of MILLIONS more Crypto Jews who no now nothing about their being Jewish, in Suuthern, Central and South America.
Am Yisroel Chai!
knowitx 3 years ago 6
And for them to come to their homeland,we should make our Israel become the great TSION!,from sea to sea!From Nilus to Ephrates.Thus we have much more place for our lost brothers.
What do you say about my idea?))Original,isn't it?))
kiril1 3 years ago 5
God bless Shavei Israel.
God bless Yisrael.
bhatindawalla 3 years ago 6
Maravilho e impressionante.........e o que posso dizer!! Sempre curioso acerca dos Judeus Portugueses ""marranos"" pena e que a comunidade do Porto e ainda pequena Ben haja G.d bless you
mascote1253 4 years ago