There should have been someone out there walking that train over that broken rail. It also should have been going a lot slower. Should have been put out of service really.
naw yall got it wrong none of this duck tape or welding its all about super glue yupp itl fix that craack no prob just need like 12 popsicle sticks and some super glue and ur all good
you can go over a broken track with caution a forman or person has to walk the train over it i work on a rail gang i just reaplaced a rail that was broke and watch a train go over it with caution
@ChristopherTheWolf I'm guessing they had a very cold winter and warm spring, and with the temperature change, the rail expanding and contracting might have caused some stress on it.
Should be calling the operator service about affect is problem of the track damage. Should be engineering work is will be carry out the railtrack with new line of railtrack. That will be made rail testing for safety checks, before resume the train operating. How lucky is possible kill the train each carriage cars!
@shamrock700. Sorry don't know where you from, I'm a signalling technician, we get called to a track circuit failure (the circuit breaks if there is a train on it or it will detect a broken rail such as this. Obviously we don't know what it is until we arrive. The track engineer will be called he is called a track chargeman in UK.
@frixster Im a signaller at Crewe NJ and we get too many track circuit failures! and a rarely get point failures or signal but they are a pain to deal with when you have a queue of trains.
@frixster : In India Railway lines are called as Permanent Way and the Engineer incharge for section of track is called PWay inspector. Under him Signal foreman, track foreman, gang men take care of the track. Rest of the points of working are as per British way!
@frixster Nah. I think it's fake. You probably used Premier and spent 10 or 12 hours making a riviting film of a train crew inching a cut across a broken rail. :>
Years ago I had a crew pull a cut across a similar break. We watched it over carefully and then I pulled a camera out of my truck and took a couple of still shots. Gave it to the MOW foreman and suggested he drag his ass out and put in a new rail. Fortunately he didn't accuse me of "faking" those shots! LOL
CP has lousy industrial trackage or poorly maintained sidings like the rest of the Class I roads in North America. If they can safely move the train slowly over the broken rail and keep the freight moving until MOW repairs the problem they will.
@MikefromFrance51 That's because in France you have a limited rail system running dramatically different types of freight trains.
All you are seeing here is a shot of a train being moved carefully over a broken rail so that the freight gets on its way. The maintenance crews are then called in to repair the track.
@timjamesmackenzie Only in America. Right. There are no light tonnage branch lines anywhere else in the world where periodic track defects occur and are repaired.
We move more tonnage in some small states/provinces in the US, Mexico or Canada than every rail movement in the UK combined.
No comparison between railroading with long distance tonnage than your tiny little island with its light weight consists.
I would like to thank you on behalf of the rest of the world for being stereotypical. You could score extra points in posting a liknk to some facts and fgiures please. I have no doubt americas will be larger but in my searches I can find any figures to compare them both to see how much bigger it really is.
@timjamesmackenzie You're "only in America" starts this entire thread with a European's "Stereotypical" but ignorant view of railroading in America. (And as railroading in Mexico, Canada and the US are basically very similar I am speaking of those three nations.
10 minutes on google should give you the basic facts you need.
Next time start your thread without a cynical attack based on ignorance and I won't come back sounding "angry"
@timjamesmackenzie So as a European you "attack" Americans....and then you call my response "stereotypical".
How sad.
And if you cannot find information on Google alone....(which is a sad commentary on your ability to use the internet) try "Janes Railroading". Seriously. Fairly well documented work on railroads throughout the world.
Janes railroading in google turned up what I call a googlwhack. I think you meant Janes world railways. . Maybe you have no facts. Maybe third time lucky if I ask for a link or two. If its soo easy to google it. then simply do this and post a link here of a helpfull website(s) that has any intresting details.
@timjamesmackenzie When I google "Janes Railroading" it took me to a point where I can use that semi-respected publication for research. So you know, when using google you don't have to be "exact". Just a hint.
I'm personally not at all remotely interested in assisting you in edjucating yourself or railroad ton mileage stats around the world.
Suggest you learn to do research if you are actually interested in learning more about the nations railways. It's really not that hard.
probably cos you dont anything about this. Im all your replies you refuse this and that but you never give any figures. im not signing up to a publication giving away my adress etc so that website is pants. Well go on, reply cleverly without actually sharing one of these simple links or any factual statistics.
@timjamesmackenzie I have no time to do your homework for you. Take a course in using the internet or even try reading a book. Stretch your horizons. I've given you one well respected source for international railroad statistics and you don't want to use it to obtain factual statistics.
Really. Be brave. Try doing some research. It's not that difficult and others don't have to do your work for you.
@JLJ061 In the real world of railroading these things happen. There are many times when you will "walk" a train over broken or bad track just to keep the freight moving. Your maintenance crews will come in behind you to make the repair. At a slow speed, as obvious in this video, you can make these moves and keep things going. Freight and crews sitting around is expensive.
@JLJ061 I am a professional railroader and comments like "a break like that is just a derailment waiting to happen" gets to me. As a result I come back hard, which is far too often part of the job in this business.
Yeah MickeyLove. They're all shit...but they do carry some of the heaviest tonnage trains some incredible distances over amazing terrain. They do it profitably without government taxation paying the bill as is with most of the rest of the railroads in the world.
I'll put up the rail operations of the US, Canada and Mexico against those in your postage stamp size country any day of the week.
@Boss302fan Of course you would, that's american arrogance and ignorance showing it's true colours. I'll bet you've never really been anywhere relevant in your entire life.
@MickeyLove01 I could care less or not if you think I'm talking bullshit. LOL. However, I will so far waste a few moments to say I worked with Wisconsin Central back in 1996 when they were involved in the EWS project.
It's interesting. You call our railroads shit. You assume I am a liar. And then you accuse "Americans" of arrogance and ignorance.
@Boss302fan But your railroads are shit from years of lack of investment and yet you argue the toss about the fact. That is arrogance at it's most american. I noticed you didn't elaborate on where you were in the UK because you're lying. You're the clown boy.
@Boss302fan Obviously not enough investment and nowhere near enough time either. Too little too late, which is a trait of your average dumb american I guess.
So now you're deciding not to give your life story when you seemed so prepared to babble on about it initially? Make your tiny little mind up.
@MickeyLove01 What an ass. First you call all tracks in the USA shit and then you say American's are arrogant. Do you have any idea how stupid and pompous that makes you appear?
@MickeyLove01 And I don't expect pompous and bitter individuals from the UK to reply with anything remotely resembling an intelligent train of thought. You start off a thread with unintelligent, uninformed and bitter accusations, and when called out on it you fall back on a cliche.
Tonnage hauled in the US, Canada and Mexico dwarfs anything moved in your own tiny country, but you're willing to cast stones without giving it a moments consideration.
@charlieb640 please shut up thinking you know everything because frankly all americans tarnish the uk with the same ideas not all british are uninteligent just remember that
@yk500 I lived in the UK for six months. I loved it there. Under no circumstances do I think those from the UK are generally unintelligent. And I never said any such thing in any post.
MickeyLove started out slamming US railroading track conditions with no facts to back him up. I responded specifically addressing "pompous and bitter" individuals, not all.
@charlieb640 i do apologise after reading comments posted from mickeylove he is obviously illiterate and a discrace to the uk and i now understood what you ment
@yk500 The only apology I will accept is if you permit me to buy you a pint (or two or three) on my next trip to the UK. We can then toast railroading and big breasted barmaids. :>
Take care man. And forgive my comments on "postage stamp sized country". I love it there.
I work MOW we could quick fix it by slapping bars on it but it would still take a 20 to 30 min to drill the holes bolt the bars on. Fixing it for good would take half a day to cut a plug rail in and another day for the welders to weld it in. We have one or two mainline teams per subdivision depending on size. The one I work on right now has one 3 man team in the yard and one 3 man team 50 miles away on the main line. So we might be two hrs away from that spot when called.
I see all the scaremongerers are loving this thread. "Dangerous!!" etc. Laughable.
Seems perfectly reasonable to me and not unsafe in the slightest; no gauge spreading, just vertical displacement on the leaving-side rail - by the looks of it I would guess the break is just after a sleeper? Put it like this, at that speed I would not be worried in the slightest if my passenger train was driving over such a defect.
@slackerbtch , so long as speed is kept slow, no problem. Often, if the spped is higher than a walking pace at a break like this, the pounding will break off more of the top of the rail...often resulting in derailment. Most railroads stop all movements when breaks like this are discovered, until it is repaired. You are correct though, it is not inherently dangerous, if speed is very slow.
@slackerbtch well as your name suggets slacker bitch, while you slacked and passed off this error your train tumbles down the mountain while you beat off to this comment.
Just walk em over slowly and keep the slack action to an absolute minimum and you're ok until MOW stops by.
True, you don't want to do this every day. LOL. But things break in the real world and you have to make a decision whether or not to move the traffic ... or wait.
"Walking speed" is 4 mph tops. On most carriers, the authority to cross a broken rail lays with maintenence personel, and they must be there to allow passage.
I don't understand much about trains, but i love them. I'm sure that if it was any close to a main track the train wouldn't be allowed to cross through it even at really low speeds.
well you use your discretion when walking a train over a broken rail, if its a straight brake, and the rail hasn't pulled more then an inch or two, you stand next to the brake and talk the engineer over the radio, while you watch to make sure everything is going well. the train is going at walking speed , which is probably less then 5MPH, so if it were to derail, it would most likely be a very minor incident, and a very small safety risk..
Exactly. It would be a minor event and easily corrected.
Sometimes when your maintenance team isn't close-bye you'll make a decision to walk the train over the defect. Of course on occasion it's a bad move. But most of the time you can get by with it if you have a good engineer and take it easy.
where abouts are you, are you in the UK? If so you need to report it to Network Rail. This is a serious problem that could lead to derailment.......if you know about it report it, as if something happens you will feel guilty later on.
Even at 8 to10 mph, which is what I guaged the train at, it could have come off. The difference between what we saw here, and jointed rail is just that, it had joints holding together the ends.
Rails and welds break all the time, for differing reasons. If I saw that on a main line, it would be out of service tho, not just reduced speed.
A Halifax-Montreal Passager train Derailled at Matepedia Station in Quebec last year (2007-08) in the winter they were lucky,,car tail end just fall down the rail train was living station,,,the rail split in 2, rail was own by CFMG back then,,,,Now today in 2009 it Back into Canadian National hand and they promise to upgrade the rail,,hopping that accident will never happen again,.
We are fully experience skilled engineers. We in Network Rail have strict guidelines on running trains over broken rails.A minor broken rail (like this one) could take up to 1hr to clamp and certainly up to 12 hrs to repair.This is not a passenger line,but if it was,how as a passenger would you feel if your train couldn't carry on for 12 hrs or more. I'm not saying that all broken rails can be passed over,there are different cracks, types of traffic. Just some of the things taken into account.
That rail could have come lose. Then it can easily cut someone in half. Other then that, it's pretty cool, and I hope that never happens out here, that extremely dangerous.
The video is indicative enough of the train speed.
If you take the approach safety is first, you step back. Even the the likilihood of the cars tipping over at that speed is not that great, I would still stand clear of anything that potentially might go wrong. Why not?
Hard to tell from this angle how much zoom the videographer was using. He/she may have been well clear.
which pixel is it?
AnyThingOutd00rs 2 months ago
There should have been someone out there walking that train over that broken rail. It also should have been going a lot slower. Should have been put out of service really.
PowerWagon7 2 months ago
Looks like Milwaukee Road track in the 1970's except the nice ballast. Milwaukee Road used mud as ballast.
htc6600 3 months ago
@htc6600 I think Penn Central used to use cow manure and leaf compost.
fhqwgads2 3 months ago
a vdo to watch
balajimannar2007 3 months ago
I wonder what brand of dish soap he recorded this with?
RandomHero447 4 months ago
The rail is broken yes, but it doesn't fail anywhere near as bad as your cell phone video does.
flightoftheunknown 4 months ago
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confetticats 4 months ago 7
I have seen broken rail which actually derailed a loco, lucky it wasnt moving very fast.
chestybondrod 5 months ago
Here I'll fix that up good as new with my soldering gun!
DVeck89 5 months ago
FAKE??? Why are some people so thick as shit! Of course its not FAKE FFS
ddowd 5 months ago
I wouldn't =O
memadmax69 5 months ago
I wouldn't =O
memadmax69 5 months ago
naw yall got it wrong none of this duck tape or welding its all about super glue yupp itl fix that craack no prob just need like 12 popsicle sticks and some super glue and ur all good
jellydounut171 5 months ago
Oh shyte. I wouldn't want to be the one who has to stand there. :o
SarahJDubya 6 months ago
As long as the leaving rail is higher than the receiving rail, you should be alright to walk over it. In other words step down, ok. Step up, bad.
ats90mph 6 months ago
hey, a little JB Weld wil fix er right up!!
john6218att 6 months ago
where is Superman when you need him?
theWHIPLASH 7 months ago
It's possible with lowered speed, about 20km/h in poland
wdowa94 7 months ago
you can go over a broken track with caution a forman or person has to walk the train over it i work on a rail gang i just reaplaced a rail that was broke and watch a train go over it with caution
bigtall17 8 months ago
How did the rail break like that?
ChristopherTheWolf 8 months ago
@ChristopherTheWolf I'm guessing they had a very cold winter and warm spring, and with the temperature change, the rail expanding and contracting might have caused some stress on it.
Elmware 7 months ago
@Elmware Yeah, maybe
ChristopherTheWolf 7 months ago
which pixle is the crack?
alextheasiangamer 9 months ago
WHERES DA FALLING AND DA CRASHING AND DA BOOOM!?
TheBeatlesRUL3 9 months ago
Amazing that the gague didn't get wider and had a derailment, cool vid!
notfarfromhome 10 months ago
All you need is some duct tape and that track will be good as new lol.
PatreaFidus 11 months ago 21
@PatreaFidus It Fixes every thing man!! lol
MacintoshBoy66 4 months ago
All you need is some duct tape and that track will be good as new lol.
PatreaFidus 11 months ago
A few years ago I watched a train crossing a broken rail slowly and with a crew member standing watch in Bay City, Michigan.
DGSX770 11 months ago
Should be calling the operator service about affect is problem of the track damage. Should be engineering work is will be carry out the railtrack with new line of railtrack. That will be made rail testing for safety checks, before resume the train operating. How lucky is possible kill the train each carriage cars!
ANDREWWALLFORD123 11 months ago
@frixster i am a signalman for NS and know what you are talking about
weelittlemikey 1 year ago
this had to be on good ole CSX...they never fixed their rails.......
tony46214 1 year ago
@tony46214 No, its (formerly) EWS [English, Welsh & Scottish Railways] in the UK (now DB Schenker).
EWS were set up as a subsidiary company of Wisconsin Central Ltd (US) when the UK rail market was privatised in the 1990s.
Canadian National bought Wisconsin Central in 2001, but never rebranded or renamed EWS.
Deutsche Bahn AG bought EWS on 28 June 2007.
It was announced that EWS would not be rebranded, but on 1 January 2009. EWS and other DB owned companies were rebranded DB Schenker.
vectorm1299 1 year ago
@tony46214 And the track... not the train. Is owned and maintained by Network Rail in the UK.
vectorm1299 1 year ago
@tony46214 What a stupid comment.
Boss302fan 11 months ago
@shamrock700. Sorry don't know where you from, I'm a signalling technician, we get called to a track circuit failure (the circuit breaks if there is a train on it or it will detect a broken rail such as this. Obviously we don't know what it is until we arrive. The track engineer will be called he is called a track chargeman in UK.
frixster 1 year ago
@frixster Im a signaller at Crewe NJ and we get too many track circuit failures! and a rarely get point failures or signal but they are a pain to deal with when you have a queue of trains.
bradleigh10 9 months ago
@frixster : In India Railway lines are called as Permanent Way and the Engineer incharge for section of track is called PWay inspector. Under him Signal foreman, track foreman, gang men take care of the track. Rest of the points of working are as per British way!
rdhinakar 4 months ago
@ frixter are u a track Forman what sub is this
shamrock700 1 year ago
Well believe what you want, it's real.
frixster 1 year ago
wow need to be getting that fixed
BNSF9370 1 year ago
Fake? Why an earth would I post a fake video of a broken rail? I can assure you it's 100% real, what I filmed myself.
frixster 1 year ago 13
@frixster Nah. I think it's fake. You probably used Premier and spent 10 or 12 hours making a riviting film of a train crew inching a cut across a broken rail. :>
Years ago I had a crew pull a cut across a similar break. We watched it over carefully and then I pulled a camera out of my truck and took a couple of still shots. Gave it to the MOW foreman and suggested he drag his ass out and put in a new rail. Fortunately he didn't accuse me of "faking" those shots! LOL
Boss302fan 1 year ago
Could be fake. I think the noises are.
xylemmelyx 1 year ago
dam, i was hoping the train was going to fall over or something, something exciting, lol
kjevera 1 year ago
cool
theresnoeastern 1 year ago
I use rail like that all the time. what a bunch of weenies.
dognip666 1 year ago
Looks like a job for Thermite Welding!!!
gebass6 1 year ago
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787levi 1 year ago
@787levi err, what did you expect to find exactly? It says Broken Rail.......???
frixster 1 year ago 31
@787levi i guess spending another 20 seconds writing that comment helped a lot
Renard380 1 year ago
@787levi You wasted even more by typing your stupid generic comment. And you could have clicked away earlier.
pingpongpung 1 year ago
@787levi You won't miss it.
cochranexyz 1 year ago
@787levi Then why did you click the video?
atsf3780 10 months ago
What does make a rail split like that exactly, besides age.
PsYcHoFaB 1 year ago
@PsYcHoFaB id guess age of the track weight of the trains and weather over time deteriorate the rails.
jasada09 1 year ago
@PsYcHoFaB Usually stress, damage, rapid heat-up or rapid heat loss (weather changes).
frixster 1 year ago 5
@PsYcHoFaB Obese passengers.
chanctonbury63 11 months ago
@chanctonbury63 Wow, really now... SMH
PsYcHoFaB 11 months ago
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steamingmadd 1 year ago
CPR wouldn't permit this, all trains on the subdivision would have to stop for a couple of hours then be recrewed
Cndr289932 1 year ago
@Cndr289932 Yeah. Right. Uh huh. LOL
CP has lousy industrial trackage or poorly maintained sidings like the rest of the Class I roads in North America. If they can safely move the train slowly over the broken rail and keep the freight moving until MOW repairs the problem they will.
charlieb640 1 year ago
fix it with blue tack, that will do it!
atomicnortherner 1 year ago 2
@atomicnortherner Gorilla Glue... :P
PsYcHoFaB 1 year ago
@PsYcHoFaB bit of gaffa tape will do the trick also!
atomicnortherner 1 year ago
put your hand on it
floydy22 1 year ago
wow that's real safe
BruceJBCpaintball 1 year ago
uhh
mtibi95 1 year ago
where was this?
hsxtcqm 1 year ago
In France, NEVER YOU WILL SEE THIS !!! It's unconscious !!!
MikefromFrance51 1 year ago
@MikefromFrance51 That's because in France you have a limited rail system running dramatically different types of freight trains.
All you are seeing here is a shot of a train being moved carefully over a broken rail so that the freight gets on its way. The maintenance crews are then called in to repair the track.
charlieb640 1 year ago
Thats rather small... cant it just go over it at speed... thats what first great western does... or is it cross country X...
iwatchfunny 1 year ago
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timjamesmackenzie 1 year ago
@timjamesmackenzie Only in America. Right. There are no light tonnage branch lines anywhere else in the world where periodic track defects occur and are repaired.
We move more tonnage in some small states/provinces in the US, Mexico or Canada than every rail movement in the UK combined.
No comparison between railroading with long distance tonnage than your tiny little island with its light weight consists.
charlieb640 1 year ago
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timjamesmackenzie 1 year ago
I would like to thank you on behalf of the rest of the world for being stereotypical. You could score extra points in posting a liknk to some facts and fgiures please. I have no doubt americas will be larger but in my searches I can find any figures to compare them both to see how much bigger it really is.
timjamesmackenzie 1 year ago
@timjamesmackenzie You're "only in America" starts this entire thread with a European's "Stereotypical" but ignorant view of railroading in America. (And as railroading in Mexico, Canada and the US are basically very similar I am speaking of those three nations.
10 minutes on google should give you the basic facts you need.
Next time start your thread without a cynical attack based on ignorance and I won't come back sounding "angry"
charlieb640 1 year ago
ten minutes on google turned up nothing. If you have the figures to hand please share. My attack was purely on Americans, not the railroading.
timjamesmackenzie 1 year ago
@timjamesmackenzie So as a European you "attack" Americans....and then you call my response "stereotypical".
How sad.
And if you cannot find information on Google alone....(which is a sad commentary on your ability to use the internet) try "Janes Railroading". Seriously. Fairly well documented work on railroads throughout the world.
charlieb640 1 year ago
Janes railroading in google turned up what I call a googlwhack. I think you meant Janes world railways. . Maybe you have no facts. Maybe third time lucky if I ask for a link or two. If its soo easy to google it. then simply do this and post a link here of a helpfull website(s) that has any intresting details.
timjamesmackenzie 1 year ago
@timjamesmackenzie When I google "Janes Railroading" it took me to a point where I can use that semi-respected publication for research. So you know, when using google you don't have to be "exact". Just a hint.
I'm personally not at all remotely interested in assisting you in edjucating yourself or railroad ton mileage stats around the world.
Suggest you learn to do research if you are actually interested in learning more about the nations railways. It's really not that hard.
charlieb640 1 year ago
probably cos you dont anything about this. Im all your replies you refuse this and that but you never give any figures. im not signing up to a publication giving away my adress etc so that website is pants. Well go on, reply cleverly without actually sharing one of these simple links or any factual statistics.
timjamesmackenzie 1 year ago
@timjamesmackenzie I have no time to do your homework for you. Take a course in using the internet or even try reading a book. Stretch your horizons. I've given you one well respected source for international railroad statistics and you don't want to use it to obtain factual statistics.
Really. Be brave. Try doing some research. It's not that difficult and others don't have to do your work for you.
charlieb640 1 year ago
I'm surprised in todays nanny state culture that they allowed the train to proceed.
justandy333 1 year ago
@justandy333 No only do "they" allow it...but "they" require it as long as you take the proper precautions.
charlieb640 1 year ago
Take a pill. His comment was good. you attack you own mother with that mouth?
timjamesmackenzie 1 year ago
im going to drive a train when im olde
leftin167 1 year ago
I sure wouldn't hang around seeing that... A break like that is just a derailment waiting to happen!
JLJ061 1 year ago
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Boss302fan 1 year ago
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@JLJ061 In the real world of railroading these things happen. There are many times when you will "walk" a train over broken or bad track just to keep the freight moving. Your maintenance crews will come in behind you to make the repair. At a slow speed, as obvious in this video, you can make these moves and keep things going. Freight and crews sitting around is expensive.
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@JLJ061 Then you would never make it as a railroader.
charlieb640 1 year ago
@charlieb640 Maybe not but that's fine with me; What's up with the attitude?
JLJ061 1 year ago
@JLJ061 I am a professional railroader and comments like "a break like that is just a derailment waiting to happen" gets to me. As a result I come back hard, which is far too often part of the job in this business.
No excuse for it and I apologize.
charlieb640 1 year ago
hes on the blob by the sound of it. Read all his other replies. Then smile cos your not him/her
timjamesmackenzie 1 year ago
just a train yard
oscarfish666 1 year ago
Lets pull the air on Him!
oldstumpcutter 1 year ago
lemme guess csx
TEMPLE7D 2 years ago
because that train is moving slow its prob close to a shipping yard and prob not a main line. and at those speeds def not a problem.
1tonyota 2 years ago
all the usa tracks are shit
MickeyLove01 2 years ago
Yeah MickeyLove. They're all shit...but they do carry some of the heaviest tonnage trains some incredible distances over amazing terrain. They do it profitably without government taxation paying the bill as is with most of the rest of the railroads in the world.
I'll put up the rail operations of the US, Canada and Mexico against those in your postage stamp size country any day of the week.
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@Boss302fan Of course you would, that's american arrogance and ignorance showing it's true colours. I'll bet you've never really been anywhere relevant in your entire life.
MickeyLove01 1 year ago
@MickeyLove01 - You call US railroads shit and when I defend railroading in North America you then call me arrogant and ignorant. That's laughable.
OK...relavance. I've railroaded in the US, Canada, Mexcio, Brazil, Argentina, and Australia. And for a brief period of time....in the UK.
Now, tell us your "relavance"
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@Boss302fan Explain where you went to in the UK and why and then I'll tell you how I know you're talking bullshit.
MickeyLove01 1 year ago
@MickeyLove01 I could care less or not if you think I'm talking bullshit. LOL. However, I will so far waste a few moments to say I worked with Wisconsin Central back in 1996 when they were involved in the EWS project.
It's interesting. You call our railroads shit. You assume I am a liar. And then you accuse "Americans" of arrogance and ignorance.
What a clown.
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@Boss302fan But your railroads are shit from years of lack of investment and yet you argue the toss about the fact. That is arrogance at it's most american. I noticed you didn't elaborate on where you were in the UK because you're lying. You're the clown boy.
MickeyLove01 1 year ago
@MickeyLove01 Investment in railroads in the US (and Canada and Mexico) have been massive over the past 10 years. That's not arrogance, that's fact.
I didn't elaborate because I don't owe any pompous asshole an explanation as to where I spent my life.
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@Boss302fan Obviously not enough investment and nowhere near enough time either. Too little too late, which is a trait of your average dumb american I guess.
So now you're deciding not to give your life story when you seemed so prepared to babble on about it initially? Make your tiny little mind up.
But we all know it's because I'd catch you out.
MickeyLove01 1 year ago
@MickeyLove01 Obviously not enough investment? As intelligent as your "all tracks are shit" comment.
What an ignorant, uneducated, bitter man you are.
What comment did I make that gave you the indication I was prepared to "babble" about my life story.
Catch me out? LOL. Man, do you not understand I don't give a shit what you think or believe.
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@MickeyLove01 Obviously not enough investment? As intelligent as your "all tracks are shit" comment.
What an ignorant, uneducated, bitter man you are.
What comment did I make that gave you the indication I was prepared to "babble" about my life story.
Catch me out? LOL. Man, do you not understand I don't give a shit what you think or believe.
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@Boss302fan And yet you keep replying. You are going on a bit now. Have you run out of underwear to sniff?
MickeyLove01 1 year ago
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@MickeyLove01 Obviously not enough investment? As intelligent as your "all tracks are shit" comment.
What an ignorant, uneducated, bitter man you are.
What comment did I make that gave you the indication I was prepared to "babble" about my life story.
Catch me out? LOL. Man, do you not understand I don't give a shit what you think or believe.
Boss302fan 1 year ago
@MickeyLove01 What an ass. First you call all tracks in the USA shit and then you say American's are arrogant. Do you have any idea how stupid and pompous that makes you appear?
No. Nevermind.
I'm sure you don't.
charlieb640 1 year ago
@charlieb640 I don't expect your average dumb and arrogant american to understand their own flaws.
MickeyLove01 1 year ago
@MickeyLove01 And I don't expect pompous and bitter individuals from the UK to reply with anything remotely resembling an intelligent train of thought. You start off a thread with unintelligent, uninformed and bitter accusations, and when called out on it you fall back on a cliche.
Tonnage hauled in the US, Canada and Mexico dwarfs anything moved in your own tiny country, but you're willing to cast stones without giving it a moments consideration.
charlieb640 1 year ago
@charlieb640 please shut up thinking you know everything because frankly all americans tarnish the uk with the same ideas not all british are uninteligent just remember that
yk500 1 year ago
@yk500 I lived in the UK for six months. I loved it there. Under no circumstances do I think those from the UK are generally unintelligent. And I never said any such thing in any post.
MickeyLove started out slamming US railroading track conditions with no facts to back him up. I responded specifically addressing "pompous and bitter" individuals, not all.
charlieb640 1 year ago
@charlieb640 i do apologise after reading comments posted from mickeylove he is obviously illiterate and a discrace to the uk and i now understood what you ment
yk500 1 year ago
@yk500 The only apology I will accept is if you permit me to buy you a pint (or two or three) on my next trip to the UK. We can then toast railroading and big breasted barmaids. :>
Take care man. And forgive my comments on "postage stamp sized country". I love it there.
charlieb640 1 year ago
Let us all know when and where. I want to be first to welcome you.
timjamesmackenzie 1 year ago
@timjamesmackenzie Next trip is Dublin - November - 2010. I love the UK. Great people. Great music. Amazing scenery. (Yorkshire is incredible).
Food is fair at best. But then I'm a fan of bangors and Mash so all is well.
charlieb640 1 year ago
sounds right to me. He did miss out inbred and twats tho
timjamesmackenzie 1 year ago
I look like the cameraman is really dangerously close - i think there was quite significant risk of derailment...
medabrundibar 2 years ago 2
its called zoom in!!!!!!
Costomiza 2 years ago
It was no more then 2 meters, not as much - i've seen train swept more then 4 meters to the side, when derail on broken switch at similar speed...
medabrundibar 2 years ago
wow thats in the UK EWS xD
BIASpotter 2 years ago
they need melt it back together
TexasOutLaws1 2 years ago
Yeah, do jack shit about it, that's the way, meathead.
KG84C 2 years ago
I work MOW we could quick fix it by slapping bars on it but it would still take a 20 to 30 min to drill the holes bolt the bars on. Fixing it for good would take half a day to cut a plug rail in and another day for the welders to weld it in. We have one or two mainline teams per subdivision depending on size. The one I work on right now has one 3 man team in the yard and one 3 man team 50 miles away on the main line. So we might be two hrs away from that spot when called.
TallifTallonbrook 2 years ago 2
I see all the scaremongerers are loving this thread. "Dangerous!!" etc. Laughable.
Seems perfectly reasonable to me and not unsafe in the slightest; no gauge spreading, just vertical displacement on the leaving-side rail - by the looks of it I would guess the break is just after a sleeper? Put it like this, at that speed I would not be worried in the slightest if my passenger train was driving over such a defect.
slackerbtch 2 years ago 5
@slackerbtch , so long as speed is kept slow, no problem. Often, if the spped is higher than a walking pace at a break like this, the pounding will break off more of the top of the rail...often resulting in derailment. Most railroads stop all movements when breaks like this are discovered, until it is repaired. You are correct though, it is not inherently dangerous, if speed is very slow.
Cndr289932 1 year ago
@slackerbtch well as your name suggets slacker bitch, while you slacked and passed off this error your train tumbles down the mountain while you beat off to this comment.
jeremypcarroll 1 year ago
Yessir! Thats not Russia!!
joha77johaa 2 years ago
I woulda got the hell outa there.
TJE4210 2 years ago
A train wreck waiting to happen.
UP5853 2 years ago
Not really. Happens all the time.
Just walk em over slowly and keep the slack action to an absolute minimum and you're ok until MOW stops by.
True, you don't want to do this every day. LOL. But things break in the real world and you have to make a decision whether or not to move the traffic ... or wait.
It "usually" pays off. LOL.
Boss302fan 2 years ago 2
just like the gaps in a model train layout!
CSXboy1 2 years ago
Scary Stuff Man. Youd think they would fix that ASAP.
YTBYlover 2 years ago
"Walking speed" is 4 mph tops. On most carriers, the authority to cross a broken rail lays with maintenence personel, and they must be there to allow passage.
otef434 2 years ago
Wow!!
ay76 2 years ago
Kids, don't try this at home!
thisismyname007 2 years ago 12
I don't understand much about trains, but i love them. I'm sure that if it was any close to a main track the train wouldn't be allowed to cross through it even at really low speeds.
JoaoMario24 2 years ago
yeah they can be walked over broken rails even on the main...
Chrisdizz22 2 years ago
I cant believe it. What about safety? What if somehow, for some reason the rail just bends and the train roll?
P.S: Sorry for the bad Eng.
P.P.S: I dont understand much about this kind of stuff, and i dont even know how strong a railroad is. Thats just what i think.
JoaoMario24 2 years ago
well you use your discretion when walking a train over a broken rail, if its a straight brake, and the rail hasn't pulled more then an inch or two, you stand next to the brake and talk the engineer over the radio, while you watch to make sure everything is going well. the train is going at walking speed , which is probably less then 5MPH, so if it were to derail, it would most likely be a very minor incident, and a very small safety risk..
Chrisdizz22 2 years ago
So you telling me that if the rail just bent all what would happen is half of the wagon that is walking over it will go out?
JoaoMario24 2 years ago
Exactly. It would be a minor event and easily corrected.
Sometimes when your maintenance team isn't close-bye you'll make a decision to walk the train over the defect. Of course on occasion it's a bad move. But most of the time you can get by with it if you have a good engineer and take it easy.
Boss302fan 2 years ago 2
OMG.
JoaoMario24 2 years ago
I don't think I'd stand that close to ANY train crossing a broken rail.
ManOfMeans 2 years ago
Well, when it's part of your job......
That's why railroading isn't for everyone.
Boss302fan 2 years ago
whats wild is the rail cracked like that, I've never seen that vefore.
HellBound8492 2 years ago
i guess this line isnt used too much, so an overnight possesion woudnt be too much of a problem
TrainphottersUK 2 years ago
where abouts are you, are you in the UK? If so you need to report it to Network Rail. This is a serious problem that could lead to derailment.......if you know about it report it, as if something happens you will feel guilty later on.
frixster 2 years ago
how that could ever get broken?
jorasave 2 years ago
Trains are very heavy, so mayn make the rails brake. Even more so when weak sptos are under the track.
mcr0928 2 years ago
j b weld.......mabe get 2 tubes
earseyesnose 2 years ago 18
@earseyesnose < Two tubes?? You Pussy, one tube, a bag a meth and some "expert" application should do just fine.
tubesteakdynamo 1 year ago
@earseyesnose Awesome! lol
snowman44077 1 year ago
Even at 8 to10 mph, which is what I guaged the train at, it could have come off. The difference between what we saw here, and jointed rail is just that, it had joints holding together the ends.
Rails and welds break all the time, for differing reasons. If I saw that on a main line, it would be out of service tho, not just reduced speed.
otef434 2 years ago
You mean 8-10kph (i.e., 5-6mph). The hoppers are something like 20m long and it takes about 9s for one to cross the rail break.
beeble2003 2 years ago
holy shit.
ibuy4unow 2 years ago
A Halifax-Montreal Passager train Derailled at Matepedia Station in Quebec last year (2007-08) in the winter they were lucky,,car tail end just fall down the rail train was living station,,,the rail split in 2, rail was own by CFMG back then,,,,Now today in 2009 it Back into Canadian National hand and they promise to upgrade the rail,,hopping that accident will never happen again,.
NBECMich 2 years ago
i hope this track never use for passenger
traffic.
gr8immi 2 years ago
We are fully experience skilled engineers. We in Network Rail have strict guidelines on running trains over broken rails.A minor broken rail (like this one) could take up to 1hr to clamp and certainly up to 12 hrs to repair.This is not a passenger line,but if it was,how as a passenger would you feel if your train couldn't carry on for 12 hrs or more. I'm not saying that all broken rails can be passed over,there are different cracks, types of traffic. Just some of the things taken into account.
frixster 2 years ago
That rail could have come lose. Then it can easily cut someone in half. Other then that, it's pretty cool, and I hope that never happens out here, that extremely dangerous.
SantaFebuff 2 years ago
That's where railroad spikes come in, holding the rail to the ties.
railroader1993 2 years ago
uh, no. The odds of anything like that happening are basically non-existent at that speed.
charlieb640 2 years ago 3
how did you tape this did you stand on the stone bits
rolo12347 2 years ago
The video is indicative enough of the train speed.
If you take the approach safety is first, you step back. Even the the likilihood of the cars tipping over at that speed is not that great, I would still stand clear of anything that potentially might go wrong. Why not?
Hard to tell from this angle how much zoom the videographer was using. He/she may have been well clear.
Boss302fan 3 years ago
If ANY track goes wide gauge and the cars drop in there is ALWAYS a CHANCE that they could tip over.
So, to answer your question....could they have tipped? Yes.
Is it likely? Not really.
Personally I would take the safety precaution and stand back out of the way.
Boss302fan 3 years ago
I do agree that is it possible they could have tipped, but yes unlikely.
The reason we stand so close is to monitor the break to check it doesn't get any worse with a train passing over it.
frixster 2 years ago