Good place to ask this question: How does giving tax breaks to the super rich who already have a vastly disproportionate share of wealth in this country help support the middle class and promote a stable society? Lower taxes on the rich -> more inequity -> less stable society. I completely agree that the government should not unreasonably stifle free enterprise through excessive taxes and regulation but there must be a happy medium. We can't maintain a stable society if we keep going this way.
Doesn't any liberal want to comment on the role Raum is usurping in the census? All I see is unrelated accusations of "Fox News". Is there no shame? LOL.
i think usually libertarians don't care about people with mental illness. i kinda think libertarianism itself is a mental illness. this guy mentioned something that is subtle but very telling: ".....translate into regulations that will change MY way of life." yep, it's all about him. libertarians are often quite selfish.
the world is a lot more fun if you just dont care and dont pay attention to all this government nonsense because all listening to this stuff will do to you is make you more mad at the government than you already are
being covered with healthcare means nothing in life if you live in a country with poor quality hospitals, lack of nurses, doctors, medical equipment. Look at the people in the UK with the bankrupt corrupt NHS where patients have died in their rooms of dehydration because of a lack of nurses due to govt beurocracy and mismanagement. Healthcare doesn't protect you, it's just a payment method.
The government is a parasite that steals from society. Any power given to government is stolen from the government. Government is a means to CONTROL the people. Government is already much too big (and has been much too big for over a hundred years straight. Government control is at the expense of the people. Government is tyrannical and MUST be limited.
Government is a parasite that STEALS from, feeds off, and destroys the people. Any power given to the government is necessarily power STOLEN from the people. Government intrusion into healthcare is NEVER legitimate. Govt should NEVER be a player in healthcare. Government should ONLY be a referee and NEVER a player in healthcare or the economy.
Government intervention in healthcare is necessarily TYRANNY and cannot possibly be otherwise. Self-control is never tyranny; only government is tyranny
Government is the portion of society that has the unique ability to use force against the people and steal from the people. Government is exactly what George Washington said it is: FORCE; government is the use of FORCE against the people. Government is a parasite that lives off honest people. Government is a thug that inflicts violence upon people.
Since government is nothing more than a parasite that lives and grows at the expense of honest people, it must be as limited in power as possible.
Government does NOT "provide" a single thing; government is nothing but a thief. Government has no resources of its own; government must STEAL everything it has from honest people.
Private enterprise EARNS what it has; government STEALS what it has. So government intrusion into healthcare is entirely tyrannical; only private healthcare can ever be just. Government will NEVER be justified in intruding into healthcare as a "provider".
Government already exerts an inordinate amount of control over medical decisions. And this tyranny will only increase when the government is given more power to regulate, oversee, and fine insurance plans. Control of medical decisions including finances should remain between providers and patients.
The government "option" is a trojan horse designed to sabotage the successful private sector and replace it with the corrupt government bureaucracy. This will only increase government control.
America is prosperous and innovative and resourceful because we were not stupid enough to surrender our medical autonomy to the government. Now the government apologists want us to voluntary become permanent slaves to the greedy and tyrannical government... all because they are dumb enough to believe the empty promises that government will provide more than they steal. America is great because it is free. Leftists are insane for considering the surrender of America to government elites.
Socialized health care is EVIL. The "complaints" are from Americans who refuse to become slaves to the government. The real complaints are from the delusional nuts who are prepared to become slaves to the government because they have an irrational fear of private enterprise.
LISTEN TO YOUR CANADIAN AND BRITISH FRIENDS. We want to help you. Don't get sucked in by these scaremongerers. And don't be ashamed to swallow your pride you admit your healthcare is fucked.
And on global warming: this guy's views are another US example of people wanting to be 'Team America: World Police' yet not giving a flying fuck about thrid world countries suffering 100x greater. WAKE UP AMERICA.
Private healthcare is ALWAYS better than government takeover. There is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- that will ever justify something as evil as government healthcare. Government healthcare is EVIL. ONLY private healthcare is moral.
You guys do know, that there is still a two-tier health care system if you have socialized health care like in my fucking country? So basically you're against socialized health care because you don't care who ends up bankrupt if they don't want to die - because you can still then pay all you want for a private doctor. Nice 'values'
I'm sick of watching American conservatives scaremongering their fellow citizens. Which saves more lives, the proposed healthcare plan or the system today? NO BRAINER
You're a dick head...our guy went to one of America's Top Universities and survived as a classical liberal. Considering that the school is a liberal pit, this goes to show that he CAN think for himself. Unlike dolts like you who swallow the liberal cum and say it's delicious.
This guys is the epitome of a conservative. He gets on his webcam and complains. That's all I hear from talk radio and fox. 24 hours of bitching and no solutions except oust the current administration. And as for the kid afraid of global warming. Most likely he had or does suffer from some form of mental illness. So before you pass him of as a loon do your research on the topic rather than going off on your political rants. There you go bitching again. Shut up or put up.
This guy has a paranoid delusion for every occasion. What does this kid know about protecting liberties? Has he ever done anything in service to this nation, like serving in the military or the Peace Corp? I doubt it because those services to one's nation require a great deal of personal sacrifice. This guy's idea of sacrafice is closing his mouth for 30 seconds to listen to someone express a different opinion.
i have had a semi serious illness that required surgery. Also, both of my parents have had cancer (ovarian and prostate) and both pulled through fine. Unlike the US i have never heard of a doctor saying he cant help me. Also, if the W.H.O. says yours is worse where do you all get off witht the "ours is the worst bit". You can chant "we're #1" as much as you want but that wont bring 16000 people a year back from the dead.
@HowTheWorldWorks ... you are another illutionist ... you taking the Commentary by Betsy McCaughey for real ... are you that brain death ... you are kidding me, right? Serioulsy ... someone should shut you down for sreading LIES ... !!!!
Wow the right are all loony extremists now. Look at his eyes. He's got that "mayor of crazytown" look. I guess when you lie this much at some point you just go nuts.
These people are trying to shutdown all civil debate and discourse concerning health care or anything that's not in corporate financial interests.
This isn't honest exercise of free speech; it is meant to intimidate, disrupt and stop the free speech of others and end an important public dialogue. It is harassment.
The GOP should just replace their symbol of the Elephant with a PLOT OF ASTROTURF.
In regards to your reply about my statement of FACT, I don't have cable, so I don't watch Fox News, Your talking points and lack of knowledge or education are now glaringly obvious for all to see.
lOOKS TO ME LIKE THE MORON IS YOURSELF, SIR/ MADAM/ BOTH. SINCE SOME OF US HAVE TO WORK FOR A LIVING WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO "SURF" THE NET LIKE YOU DO. tAKE YOUR POLI SCI 101 AND STICK IT, FORIEGNER
The problem with Elder Heathcare slaughter is that it's conspiracy FACT (NOT consirarcy Theory). To commmit genocide. Thjat's sick. However we are dealing with what we are dealing with today, because all those seniors are mostly O'bama Zommbies that did not that it to Heart; for what JFK said to them in 1961. If you want to know what that is, then ask?
euthenasia we soon will be able to take the black pill as in the netherlands to die administered by healthcare. wow no more suicides this should satisfy the taking of guns leaving the ppl. with a way to still kill, themselves only. progress or eugenics?
FIVE (5) THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE PLAN.
Come to my profile page on youtube and read my column on the right side, that provides you with the clear details on President Hopebama Health Care Plan.
Under Bill Clinton's administration, Hillary tried to obtain Universal Health Care for ALL Americans. The Republican Congress blocked her (Bob Doyle, Newt Gingrich) but agreed to pass the S-Chip Bill to cover children.
Hillary asked under a Social Program, for US Drugs Manufacturers to produce children vaccines at a discounted price. They refused...NOT ENOUGH PROFIT FOR THEM.
Hillary had to turn to England to have these children vaccines produced for our US children.
US drug manufacturers ranked #1 in sales worldwide for 35 years. To compete with other drug producing nations, they had to sell at a great discounted price to retain market shares.
Result: Canada pays up to 80% less for US made drugs than US citizens pay here for these same drugs!!
(1) US taxpayers money PAYS for governmental research grants in the development of new US drugs.
(2) US taxpayers afterward PAY up to 80% more to buy these US drugs.
I'm sure you don't make your living by working for anybig corporations, but the majority of Americans do. This is why the lefty loonie attacks on "Big Corps" never gain any momentum. Also, according torecent polls, 85% of Americans who have insurance are happy with their plans. It's only the 10% of Americans who don't have insurance who are for Nobamacare. Notice I said Americans, not people living inthe U.S. I believe Niobium is correct in your lack of understanding of the FACTS.
ALL SENATORS & GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES have a Government Run PUBLIC HEALTH CARE PLAN---which is excellent!!
ALL ARMED FORCES VETERANS have the VA Government Run PUBLIC HEALTH CARE PLAN---which is excellent !!
ALL OUR SENIORS CITIZENS have the Medicare Government Run PUBLIC HEALTH CARE PLAN---which is excellent !!
So why do RIGHT-WING REPUBLICANS---siding with Big Insurances & Big Drugs---LIE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE---and say that the Government is unable to run a PUBLIC HEALTH CARE SYSTEM?
hey Mr How The World Works (according to some geeky delusional fascist) if socalized medicine means no proper healthcare for the old maybe u could explain why the UKs got a higher life expectancy than the US
pardon? the US goverment interferes in health-care on many levels. the US has its insane war on drugs which means lots of kids get shot. the demographics are different and indeed many factors are different. you cant compare 2 countries like this and reduce life expectancy to one factor.
Socialized medicine has caused horrible waiting lines in Europe, the inability of wealth of being able to purchase better care, and a lag in medical advances.
I say this as a medical student in the US with who was a biotechnologist. In my city of Houston, largest medical center in the world, we can only afford to eat medical costs of those that cant afford to pay because of the existence of health insurance payments from patients that can afford to pay. Go figure.
A health care system is not synonymous with medicine. The current system of issuing medical care needs a revamp (obviously), and though France is a prominent medical nation (I have had personal experience with the system in biotechnology and medicine), its demographics and the third of the size of population make it a weak comparison. A balancing act is necessary to protect our quality of medical advancement and encourage broader distribution. What you are proposing is not balanced.
I noticed how conveniently you avoided the fact that NOT a single nation with Universal Health Care ... would even consider trading their systems with our non-existant plan.
Do not try to convince me that in 2009, the USA cannot borrow the best ideas from Canada & Europe UHC plans, who have ironed out the bugs from their UHC systems since 1976 and come up with the world best UHC for ALL Americans.
Wrong!! Europe, as is the USA is now undergoing an economy crisis having nothing to do with Universal Health Care.
Where the hell to you get your false info??
I bet it's from FoxNews no doubt.
FoxNews is the mouthpiece for the Right-Wing Conservative Richpublican Party, Big Insurances & Big Drugs who vehemently oppose US Universal Health Care...because it will cut into their obscene profit.
You dont know much economics, do you libro. look into projected costs for health/pensions/entitlements etc for european states such as france, sweden, germany, greece. these nations will be technically bankrupt in the next 20 or so years.
I stand by my assumption ... you are in deed a low intellect MORON who comes here to spread the lies, fear & smear propaganda of the Right-Wing Conservative R.I.P. uplicons.
WE THE PEOPLE demand UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE for ALL Americans.
Again with the ad hominum attacks backed up by zero facts, libro? Hey, I can play that game, you anonymous slack-jawed troglodite. More to N Korea and enjoy the miracle of socilism!
@Niobium2000 You are spot on, even in Norway we are beginning to move towards privatization of healthcare. Unlike Sweden though we in Norway are like Saudia-rabia, we got ton of Oil and the know how to refine it as well (thanks to the US but you wount get a thanks from us dipshits). So we can keep it up many decades more if we want too. Our healtchare spending is increasing yet our capacity, efficacy and quality is diminishing, its like stagflation in healthcare. And our true unemployment is 20%
No? That's why most Canadians who actually want medical care and not government care, come here for treatment. Quit listening to the failed sportscaster and the madcow on MSNBC, and try talking to the people who actually live in those nations.
KEVIN--The Right-Wing Republicons have spread their lies about the CANADIAN UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE System--BUT ...
Canadians were asked to vote & pick from ALL WALKS OF LIFE ... Sports, Entertainment, Inventors, etc ... the Canadian who is the most influential, respected & loved.
The Canadians overwhelmingly voted for TOMMY DOUGLAS ... the politician who gave them UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE !!
Canadians would NEVER switch their UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE with our PROFIT-DRIVEN broken down system!!
Hello. I live in Canada and like every single person i have ever spoken to on the subject, would not want a system of healthcare like yours. I know you will shoot back some shit like "Then why do you come here?" which would only be valid if it was on a mass scale. We all wait about the same time for care as you however unlike you we dont allow people to just buy their way to the front of the line as that is immoral. Also sorry we dont euthenize our elderly. Stop listening to those lies.
@TorontoCanuck1978 I live in canada too and I'm so thankful because of our free health care. sure it's great for the rich when you have private health care but alot of americans aren't that rich! It boggles my mind how the think helping the rich get more money or stay rich helps the country as a whole.
you are always talking about human rights. Health care should be a human right. It is disgusting to not help some one becuase they are poor. Why should a rich person have a longer life just cus they have money?
because the rich produce more,who pays for the poor health care?not the poor it's the rich,get off the fairness doctrine,is it fair for someone to produce wealth and not enjoy it while someone does nothing and gets to enjoy it?
My jaw dropped that day when Obama brought up Japan's Lost Decade... I'd just finished studying it, and then to hear Obama claiming Japan's stimuluses (sp?) only failed because they were too late and too small, all I could think of was how Obama's already preparing excuses for the stimulus's certain failure. "Congress cut too much out, delayed it with their bickering", he'll say, as he calls Stimulus II an emergency, filled with more terrible secrets that will become law. Just my thoughts.
the CAPATALIST united states has a better healthcare system than socialized eouropean countrys (i know. my uncle in ireland had a brain tumor and the healthcare there sucks)
only the most prffesional of youtube political debaters put links to their info sources. thats why howtheworldworks rocks
socialized healthcare is wonderful! people in Canada live 3 years longer because of their great system, but as far as socialized care goes, Canada isn't even that good. An example of a really good system is Australia.
My mother had a car crash and nearly died. She spent months in hospital. In America this would have bankrupted the entire family. How much did her treatment cost? No idea. It was needed, so it was done.
You can't explain to somebody who knows how social medicine works that it is evil, only to people who haven't a clue and are prepared to believe the tripe that the right wing media feed on and dole out.
Anybody spouting that kind of nonsense in front of me will be defenestrated.
IF THAT HAPPENED IN AMERICA, you would have bought health insurance beforehand (unless you were a moron) and you would have gotten literally the best healthcare in the world. i know about socialized healthcare because i experienced it myself.
Only morons don't buy insurance. Right. I thought it was poor people who didn't buy insurance. I thought that was the point of it. A safety net for everybody. If you want gold plated healthcare you can buy insurance and get it. When the National Health Service was proposed the doctors hated it and kicked up a fuss. Now the easiest way to get yourself annihilated in an election is to propose American style health care. No country which has socialized medicine has ever gone back to the dark ages.
most socialized healthcare countries are in a worse mess then america by far.
Let me explain something to you. if i decide not to smoke because i dont want to get lung cancer, then its unlikley that i will pay bills for an oporation to cure it. in socialized medicine, i will be paying the med bill for smokers, druggies, and people who have poor judgement about danger, even if I watch my own health, dont smoke, eat right and dont use drugs. by the way, that actress died in canada cause the med
If it is so terrible why don't they repeal it? They don't repeal it because the people want it. That's what we in the civilized world call democracy. Maybe one day soon it will spread to America.
The idea that the rest of the world is out of step with you is a sign of madness.
um.... this kid who has a phobia f global warming, the bases for one of your rants, most likely has an effed up psyche record to begin with! thats a paranoia issue for fucks sake
yea a Socialized health system is so bad. my aunty had a stroke and she has been in the hopsital for almost a month and is going to rehab for 100% free. Tell me how great capitalist health care is when your poor . everyone should get the same health care. just becasue you have money is no reason for you should live longer then a poor person.
Democracy is suppose to be government of the people and for the people, with everyone getting an equal vote (which sounds somewhat communistic when you think about it). In reality big business and the rich hire lobbiest and taints the system with political donations to candidates that will do their bidding once elected. As long as big business are allow to interfere in government, there will always be a disconnect between what's good for the general population and the rich.
Go to a country with socialized medicine. You will see ours is MUCH better than theirs. We have the best healthcare on earth why the heck would we want to change that? We still can help healthcare by not giving it to illegals and by not suing people with no basis and winning. It is not private healthcares fault. It is the ACLU's
Hopefully you can opt out for life tax wise from medicare and the universal health care system due out by year's end.
Sure trust private for profit health care insurance system. An insurance system that will abandon bad risks (ie you'll eventually get really sick). These companies will up your premiums and deductable with age if nothing less, and eventually cut you off and/or use excuses not to pay.
If the US system is so great, why don't other countries trade universal health care for it?
"Go to a country with socialized medicine. You will see ours is MUCH better than theirs. We have the best healthcare on earth why the heck would we want to change that? We still can help healthcare by not giving it to illegals and by not suing people with no basis and winning. It is not private healthcares fault. It is the ACLU's"
How come I can just go to a hospital and get treatment for free... and I do mean for free, because I am an immigrant in a socialized medicine country.
Something about terminal patients with little hope of recover whether through very expensive and/or experimental treatment. How is this any different from an insurance company declaring a treatment is experimental and therefore not covered, and prefering a prolonged but cheaper court battle, in the hope the plantiff dies before a settlement?
In universal health care, there is nothing stopping anyone from spending their legacy on last ditch desperate treatments.
Maybe a 2-tier health system would appease and let those who have blind faith in the private insurance for profit model opt out of a government run insurance system that everyone else would pay into.
Last week's Time magazine's cover story is about health care, which they say even with full private health insurance coverage, "you're still only one bad illness away from bankrupcy".
Does a garbage man make the same income as an attorney? I doubt it, unless the garbage man owns his own company and has many trucks, or the attorney doesn't have any clients, seing as the US has more attornies per capita then any where else on earth.
that is how communism works. Everyone has the same income, regardless of career. This way there is no incentive to do different types of careers, at least in a pecuniary way.
Just like Shopping at Walmart ..that is so socialist it isnt funny ..they Never paid for Health Care for their workers and I got sick in 2003 I was refused @ The County The head Nurse told me the state was bankrupt from WalMart and illegals that Bush let into Tennessee ..Bush needs to Burn
Partly right. In communism everyone is assumed to be idealistic and working for the common good and not themselves. Communistic idealism is no match for capitalistic greed. In communism people do make similar salaries, but in practise there are some salary levels to reward seniority, education, and production, as well certain jobs/careers are easier then others, and have hidden fringe benefits.
In communism becoming educated and securing a soft job to rest your laurels on is a big incentive.
Hopefully Obama's universal health care plan will be two tier, and offer HTWW and Scscruzer and others like them the option to opt out for life in favour of the existing for profit private insurance system.
Do you think the insurance companies will reward that loyalty with anything other then fleecing policy holders in the long run?
Many doctors are in it for the money. Some of the nastiest people I know became doctors.
Scscruzer claims to be Christian? He's a hyprocrite so that figures.
Bad luck can strike anyone, a car accident, cancer, etc. Why shouldn't these health costs be spread over the entire population, instead of financially destroying the unluck and elderly?
A population with universal health care, is free from the many issues of a costly private insurance system who's goal is to maximize profits.
I have no illusions at converting ultra right wingers. It was however highly entertaining and embarrassingly easy to bend Scscruzer out of shape and induce angry comical responses from him.
Scscruzer is like most right wing HTWW posters. He think that trading like opinions, devoid of fact, long enough with others that share his view will not only convince them that they are right but transform their opinions into fact.
And Again, Akido, If the guy making a porn video deserves millions from it, why can't I make some money from curing a disease? Health care was never a right. Its not in our constitution as a right. Go read it. ITS A PRODUCT as is EVERYTHING. Everything is for sale. Think about it socialist pig. I LOVE MY MARKET. The reason we are number 1 and your number????? Wait who gives a fuck about your back country. We don't care about your country, unless it can make us money. Thank you
Unlike you I'm not a fine connoisseur of porn, as I prefer to have a girlfriend.
Sure everything is for sale, in capitalism, like porn and sex, good for you.
How often are diseases cured?
There is nothing stopping a drug company from making loads of money during the life of their patents, but they are more likely to make huge price concessions to the government to secure a national market.
Canada is #1 on the UN HDI for 7 consecutive years. The US is #15. Good point.
you don;t have to be a "connoisseur" of porn. Implying that I am a porn freak is actually funny. Im pointing at the pathetic and comparing it to the great.
During the life of their patients? How about when something better comes along and puts them out of business. They have a right to charge for what they invested in. You and the MAN have no right dictating anything to private industry.
Again, no one cares about Canada. Stay out of our business you socialistic ass.
OK so the pathetically great can make millions. Good luck on that.
I said patents not patients, the difference is more then the letter "i"; check a dictionary.
If something better comes along, then the government negociates with the old and new supplier, and gets optimal revised pricing from both. That's efficient not dictating. Dictating is when private industry imposes staged pricing, to maximize profits while exploit everyone from early adopters to generic users. A monopoly in a word.
Some consider Hitlers rule more efficient then ours. Unitarian ....efficiency means squat. I think the invester who comes up with HIS product deserves some dinero. HE DOES NOT deserve government to cut his prices in half to where he is making hardly any profit. The risk isnt worth it. NO INNOVATION.
First you say socialism is horribly inefficient, but now you' admit that an extreme form of socialism (fascism), was highly efficient. You're learning.
If you invent and produce a drug for $1 and sell it for $11, that's a 1000% profit, but you'd settle for $2 or 100% profit. Drug companies also settle for less in a universal health care system. The government doesn't impose prices, the drug companies agree to negociate as it's still very much worth their while even if they can't price gouge.
Do you think the government owes you national security or a public education? What tulip777 is saying is that healthcare should be part of national security.
If you're against universal healthcare then I'd guess you're against public education as well.
Many Canadian retirees flock to Florida for the winter, the "snow birds", but if they get sick they run back to Canada for treatment if they can, even though they bought US medical travel insurance.
The Canadian laser eye surgery business is booming in large part because of Americans who come here for better care at half the price. By the way corrective/"cosmetic" eye surgery is not covered by our universal health care, and so like the Americans Canadians have to pay out of their own pocket.
As a canuck I can say everything you said is bang on.
Why is it that the US is the only industrialized nation without universal medical care?
If the US system is so great, why aren't other nations falling over themselves to adopt that system?
The reality is that it is political suicide for a politian in a nation with universal care to even suggest tampering with universal health care, and that's the best confirmation that it works far better and at much less cost then the US system.
Isn't medicare US socialized medicine for those over the age of 65?
Doesn't medicare account for 20% of the federal budget?
I don't get the, limiting of care to the elderly, or limiting experimental care on the elderly, or limit new technology to the elderly. Doesn't sound very socialized, although you seem very much for socialize medicine in these cases.
what he was saying is that this is showing the governments wanting to restrict care. so if they somehow pass universal health care for everyone. the government is going to decide how you should be treated. do you want the government telling you what they think is best. its already happening there is a piece in the stimulus bill that states that the government is to help doctors on there Decision on some situations
The doctors determine what the care options are, and that's the same in a private or universal health care system. What howtheworldworks is saying is that he dislikes the fact that the government will not fund every possible option to keep the elderly alive, which is hypocritical, because on the one hand he's against any funding and on the other he wants infinite funding. Medicine can only go reasonably so far, but if you want to go further there is nothing stopping you for using your own money.
Or maybe those who have a job can get healthcare, unlike the elderly who can't work anymore. See your flaw. I know I sure do. See if you work, you can get money. you take that money and buy insurance. See you have the choice to be a freeloader or a hardworker recieving quality healthcare. stop supporting a weaker america. The victim mentality is getting very old. The democrats is the victims party. Poor me poor me. help me! I love my country and what it stands for. And this freeloading is Bull.
What flaw? The elderly had jobs all their lives until they retired. What you're saying is that the elderly don't deserve health care because they "can't work anymore" and only "those who have a job can get healthcare". Where's your compassion? You do realize you'll be old and unable to work one day too, and you'll be singing a different tune then.
Don't you know that Universal heath care is not a free ride? It's a national health care insurance system that most everyone contributes to.
no the flaw is that you would trade universal healthcare for alot of the options elderly people have. If you have a job you should have healthcare. These posts are perfectly rational. Your Canadian and you have no say in our matters. Its like me telling Englishmen what kind of capitalist society they should have. Its not my fucking country. Compassion? You mean for all the poor victims? We already have programs to help that small percentage of americans.
There is an exrememly small amount of people that cannot get jobs due to issues. The other percentage are people living off the system. We can't afford this magical system you speak of. We can't even afford the baby boomer generation. We have programs for the elderly and its perfectly fine. Now when you spend all your budge on everyones healthcare you have to cut costs. The elderly are the odd ends out. Universal healthcare is not rational. Its a eutopia POS ideal that comes from socialism
People should have equal everything. Equal healthcare, equal house, equal job, equal, equal, equal. People dont want to be equal, they want to better themselves. This is why we are a capitalist nation. Socialist idealology has failed and its a fucked up system. We have a system in place to where if you work hard enough you can afford healthcare. Anyone can. This eutopia nonsense is not logical and goes against human nature. I would rather have a job and work for quality healthcare
When has the USA become a freeloading nation that rides on the back of the tax payer and the government. Its pathetic. America is the best country in the world. Dont agree? than why are you posting opinion on other countries healthcare systems. I love capitalism.Its sad it creates losers, but thats the way it is. We can help the losers as best we can,but its never going to be a eutopia where everyone gets free everything.Thats not how capitalism works. Government is the problem, not the solution
Why do all other industrial CAPITALISTIC nations have universal health care, and would never consider trading it for private US health insurance?
The US medicare only covers people 65 and over and it's TWICE as expensive as universal medical care that covers EVERYONE. If you can afford cutting medicare costs in half and not buying private insurance then you can afford universal care.
The UN ranks the US as #30 for quality of life and #45 for health care.
First of all you are throwing out statistics with no sources. Second, explain to me once we get passed the hurdle of affording Univ. Health insurance....what do you think is going to happen to research technology when the government regulates all the prices so it can afford it. Guess what....less cures and less research because they wont be getting paid. Doctors wages will go down, new medical technology will go down. This is the effects of socialism.
Socialism hinders progress because once the government start regulating your pharmaceutical prices, than as a risk taking researcher, I do not want to take that high of a risk finding a cure. Why don't you open up a history book anbd see what universal things do. Socialism is a failure and so is your logic. It sounds nice on the outside, but once you really look at it with our American system, you go oh....wait....thats NOT going to work. Government is NOT the solution!!!
Yes. Don't scare them with facts. They run in different directions and have to use meaningless words like "socialist". That's because the facts, truth and logic are on our side of the argument. Most of them are totally clueless. Just read a comment from the guy who is afraid of universal healthcare because he doesn't want the government bureaucrats to make medical decisions. That's what insurance bureacrats do all the time!! It's the medical mafia that makes the rules!
In a system where those who supply services can charge whatever they feel like because people will pay and do anything to save their lives and lives of their loved ones only morons can make noises about "supply and demand". Most of Americans have to deal with corporate criminal monopolies when it comes to healthcare. Insurance companies would rather have you die than lose a buck. You don't even see the difference between a lemonade stand and a healthcare provider. Go listen to Rush Limbaugh.
Don't US health insurance companies look for excuses to deny coverage? Then the patient has to hire a lawyer to fight their insurance company, hoping they won't die or go bankrupt first.
What's stopping the insurance companies from hiking up rates and even cut you off when you start to get sick and become a bad risk?
It's criminal what hospitals do with the uninsured. They multiply the costs they'd charge insurance companies by 10, and then the patient has to fight for a lower bill.
"What's stopping the insurance companies from hiking up rates and even cut you off when you start to get sick and become a bad risk?"
The fact that 1) people will sue for damages and 2) once word gets out of the business practices of that company, people will take their money elsewhere.
What if all health insurance companies have basically the same practices? Then where will people take their money?
Car insurance companies also hike up rates for increasingly poor risks, and ultimately can cancel coverage. Is sueing them an option? Most people merely seek out a very expensive insurer who specializes in higher risk clients. Sueing is mostly impractical.
People buy insurance based on price and coverage. A cheap price goes a long way.
Your philosophy is so twisted that you don't even understand the concept of "government". Saying that the government owes you something is like saying that you owe it to yourself. Stop listening to Limbaugh and Hannity. They are part of the system and are there for a reason. I happen to think that the government's sole reason for existence is to serve us at our pleasure. Direct taxation should be illegal. Taxing human labor should be a crime. Our goverment is only a tool. Be mad at it's master.
The unemployed in Western Europe have more protection than many people with 2 or more jobs in the US. And many do need 2 or more jobs to survive in this country. And when you compare the unemployment rates don't forget that true unemployment numbers are not considered. They don't even count people who exhausted their benefits and gave up on finding a job. Our "government" and the entire system are set up to serve the corporate interests and to deflect your anger from the elites who rob you.
What you're saying is that we shouldn't have universal healthcare because the doctors wouldn't be able to charge whatever they want, and everyone else, who according to you is lazy and stupid, doesn't deserve to have what every civilized country has. I think those uneven parallel bars were placed way too high above the ground. Once they squeeze everything out of you they teach you the virtues of individualism". Genius, our government is a tool of corporate monopolies. You can't separate them.
Absolutely. Just read these stupid comments. One guy argues that we shouldn't have universal healthcare because it would limit the income of doctors and reward the people who are lazy and stupid. Our problem is that 50% of our population has been brainwashed to the point of having their heads so far up their asses that they are beyond help.
The US spends 20% of it's federal budget on medicare, but that only covers people 65 and over. Universal care that covers everyone from birth to death costs less then 10% of those countries budgets. Double the costs for 15 years coverage versus half the cost for 80 years coverage. That doesn't even factor in personal medical insurance from ages 0-65, deductables, etc. It's obvious that the US medical and drug companies are milking their citizens.
Drugs come from private industry and they deserve to make money off their product. Its capitalism. get a job you weak sack of shit. 99 percent of us are capable of getting insurance. Dont even play the victim bullshit. Anything in America is possible. Go to school, get a part time job, better yourself. Or you can just stay where u are believing thats as far as you can go because you were raised to believe you are poor and weak and that the government will take care of you
But for me, I think ill rely on myself to protect me. STOP SUPORTING WEAKNESS AMERICA! We the people. Not we the government. Wake up everyday striving to be better than the day before and I garantee you wont have to worry about health insurance. These democrats make it seem like the government is the solution to all when its the problem 90 percent of the time. It time we stand up and turn our lives and our country around. Stick to what made america great!
Good place to ask this question: How does giving tax breaks to the super rich who already have a vastly disproportionate share of wealth in this country help support the middle class and promote a stable society? Lower taxes on the rich -> more inequity -> less stable society. I completely agree that the government should not unreasonably stifle free enterprise through excessive taxes and regulation but there must be a happy medium. We can't maintain a stable society if we keep going this way.
siloria 1 year ago
Btw the average waiting line for cancer surgery in Norway for a 60 year old is 4-6 months, what is it in USA?
killerbee2k 1 year ago
Doesn't any liberal want to comment on the role Raum is usurping in the census? All I see is unrelated accusations of "Fox News". Is there no shame? LOL.
peppilepiu 1 year ago
the road to hell is paved with good intent
Axenmoon 1 year ago
i think usually libertarians don't care about people with mental illness. i kinda think libertarianism itself is a mental illness. this guy mentioned something that is subtle but very telling: ".....translate into regulations that will change MY way of life." yep, it's all about him. libertarians are often quite selfish.
exbronco1980 1 year ago
@exbronco1980 ye awith all the welfare we want to leach off of... o wait
achilles6822 1 year ago
Idiot.
gravyhandjohnson 1 year ago
the world is a lot more fun if you just dont care and dont pay attention to all this government nonsense because all listening to this stuff will do to you is make you more mad at the government than you already are
holyrocnroll 1 year ago
being covered with healthcare means nothing in life if you live in a country with poor quality hospitals, lack of nurses, doctors, medical equipment. Look at the people in the UK with the bankrupt corrupt NHS where patients have died in their rooms of dehydration because of a lack of nurses due to govt beurocracy and mismanagement. Healthcare doesn't protect you, it's just a payment method.
dolphinsattack 1 year ago
Where are you getting this news about the Australian boy? Why can't I find anything about this anywhere on the internet?
Johnbizzen 1 year ago
Climate change delusion. C'mon, admit it. You just made that up. I do not doubt, however, that you are an expert on delusion.
Johnbizzen 1 year ago
what about the insurance co.s that deny us care
pokeyugi13 2 years ago
Fox News, the internet division!
DarkWolfStudio 2 years ago
Dude, our healthcare is going to kill everyone the way it is now. You conservative are psycho.
wmessengerful 2 years ago
your argument is flawed because the government is a parasite that lives AT THE EXPENSE of society. Any gain in government power is a LOSS to society.
Do you understand anything?
herbs814 2 years ago
The government is a parasite that steals from society. Any power given to government is stolen from the government. Government is a means to CONTROL the people. Government is already much too big (and has been much too big for over a hundred years straight. Government control is at the expense of the people. Government is tyrannical and MUST be limited.
herbs814 2 years ago
Government is a parasite that STEALS from, feeds off, and destroys the people. Any power given to the government is necessarily power STOLEN from the people. Government intrusion into healthcare is NEVER legitimate. Govt should NEVER be a player in healthcare. Government should ONLY be a referee and NEVER a player in healthcare or the economy.
Government intervention in healthcare is necessarily TYRANNY and cannot possibly be otherwise. Self-control is never tyranny; only government is tyranny
herbs814 2 years ago
Government is the portion of society that has the unique ability to use force against the people and steal from the people. Government is exactly what George Washington said it is: FORCE; government is the use of FORCE against the people. Government is a parasite that lives off honest people. Government is a thug that inflicts violence upon people.
Since government is nothing more than a parasite that lives and grows at the expense of honest people, it must be as limited in power as possible.
herbs814 2 years ago
Government does NOT "provide" a single thing; government is nothing but a thief. Government has no resources of its own; government must STEAL everything it has from honest people.
Private enterprise EARNS what it has; government STEALS what it has. So government intrusion into healthcare is entirely tyrannical; only private healthcare can ever be just. Government will NEVER be justified in intruding into healthcare as a "provider".
herbs814 2 years ago
Only the government has a monopoly on force. Only the government is tyrannical.
Private enterprise is moral; government intrusion is tyrannical.
herbs814 2 years ago
Government already exerts an inordinate amount of control over medical decisions. And this tyranny will only increase when the government is given more power to regulate, oversee, and fine insurance plans. Control of medical decisions including finances should remain between providers and patients.
The government "option" is a trojan horse designed to sabotage the successful private sector and replace it with the corrupt government bureaucracy. This will only increase government control.
herbs814 2 years ago
America is prosperous and innovative and resourceful because we were not stupid enough to surrender our medical autonomy to the government. Now the government apologists want us to voluntary become permanent slaves to the greedy and tyrannical government... all because they are dumb enough to believe the empty promises that government will provide more than they steal. America is great because it is free. Leftists are insane for considering the surrender of America to government elites.
herbs814 2 years ago
Socialized health care is EVIL. The "complaints" are from Americans who refuse to become slaves to the government. The real complaints are from the delusional nuts who are prepared to become slaves to the government because they have an irrational fear of private enterprise.
herbs814 2 years ago
LISTEN TO YOUR CANADIAN AND BRITISH FRIENDS. We want to help you. Don't get sucked in by these scaremongerers. And don't be ashamed to swallow your pride you admit your healthcare is fucked.
And on global warming: this guy's views are another US example of people wanting to be 'Team America: World Police' yet not giving a flying fuck about thrid world countries suffering 100x greater. WAKE UP AMERICA.
crazystu1 2 years ago
Private healthcare is ALWAYS better than government takeover. There is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- that will ever justify something as evil as government healthcare. Government healthcare is EVIL. ONLY private healthcare is moral.
And global warming is a fraud. An absolute fraud.
herbs814 2 years ago
You guys do know, that there is still a two-tier health care system if you have socialized health care like in my fucking country? So basically you're against socialized health care because you don't care who ends up bankrupt if they don't want to die - because you can still then pay all you want for a private doctor. Nice 'values'
I'm sick of watching American conservatives scaremongering their fellow citizens. Which saves more lives, the proposed healthcare plan or the system today? NO BRAINER
crazystu1 2 years ago
douche boy reports the arrogant conservative white guy perspective.
still waiting for the name of the university you went to and graduated from too.
gje313 2 years ago
gje:
You're a dick head...our guy went to one of America's Top Universities and survived as a classical liberal. Considering that the school is a liberal pit, this goes to show that he CAN think for himself. Unlike dolts like you who swallow the liberal cum and say it's delicious.
captaindiesalot 2 years ago
Conservatives and libertarians are protecting the greatness of America. Leftists should just stop trying to destroy America.
herbs814 2 years ago
Paid by the GOP dept. of propaganda.
mookadada 2 years ago
winterconcert..... only a progressive loon would equate someone giving factual data, current events. then commentary...as...ahem!..complaining???
Ill give you a hint..... read your own comments below this one..... the epitome of progressive loon waaah baby complaining.
tonysshadow 2 years ago
This guys is the epitome of a conservative. He gets on his webcam and complains. That's all I hear from talk radio and fox. 24 hours of bitching and no solutions except oust the current administration. And as for the kid afraid of global warming. Most likely he had or does suffer from some form of mental illness. So before you pass him of as a loon do your research on the topic rather than going off on your political rants. There you go bitching again. Shut up or put up.
winterconcert 2 years ago
This guy has a paranoid delusion for every occasion. What does this kid know about protecting liberties? Has he ever done anything in service to this nation, like serving in the military or the Peace Corp? I doubt it because those services to one's nation require a great deal of personal sacrifice. This guy's idea of sacrafice is closing his mouth for 30 seconds to listen to someone express a different opinion.
NunzOnDrugs 2 years ago
i have had a semi serious illness that required surgery. Also, both of my parents have had cancer (ovarian and prostate) and both pulled through fine. Unlike the US i have never heard of a doctor saying he cant help me. Also, if the W.H.O. says yours is worse where do you all get off witht the "ours is the worst bit". You can chant "we're #1" as much as you want but that wont bring 16000 people a year back from the dead.
TorontoCanuck1978 2 years ago 7
@HowTheWorldWorks ... you are another illutionist ... you taking the Commentary by Betsy McCaughey for real ... are you that brain death ... you are kidding me, right? Serioulsy ... someone should shut you down for sreading LIES ... !!!!
NobbyBear08 2 years ago
Wow the right are all loony extremists now. Look at his eyes. He's got that "mayor of crazytown" look. I guess when you lie this much at some point you just go nuts.
Whatchagonado 2 years ago
what the fuck are you talking about ?!?!?!?gag your self
cucheran666 2 years ago
Was he being sarcastic about limited healthcare for the old or does he really support that shit?
Rivage1 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
These people are trying to shutdown all civil debate and discourse concerning health care or anything that's not in corporate financial interests.
This isn't honest exercise of free speech; it is meant to intimidate, disrupt and stop the free speech of others and end an important public dialogue. It is harassment.
The GOP should just replace their symbol of the Elephant with a PLOT OF ASTROTURF.
ProgressiveAction10 2 years ago
Watch Youtube video: The Health Care Bill: What they DON'T want you to know!
wethepeopleUSA2012 2 years ago
We at FoxNews are totally bias:
WE will never REPORT or say anything NEGATIVE against Conservative Republicans.
WE will never REPORT or say anything POSITIVE about the Progressive Democrats.
BUT ... WE REPORT ... and you decide !!
Ha! Ha! Ha! FoxNews ... what a sad joke !!
librophile 2 years ago
Sounds like MSNBC withe dems. HA!
kevinj84 2 years ago
How dare you to say this about MSNBC !!
lol
librophile 2 years ago
Joseph & Mary while she was pregnant with Jesus made the long trek to Bethlehem for the CENSUS.
It was requirement THEN ... 2,000 yrs ago ... and is still a requiremnt today !!
vsdicastrol ... you're an uneducated moron ... read a book !!
librophile 2 years ago
You don't really believe that cock and bull story do you?
MartinJWillett 2 years ago
In regards to your reply about my statement of FACT, I don't have cable, so I don't watch Fox News, Your talking points and lack of knowledge or education are now glaringly obvious for all to see.
kevinj84 2 years ago
kevinj84 ... "I don't watch FoxNews"...
YOU have just proven to the WORLD how extremely STUPID you truly are.
FOXNEWS videos are all over the INTERNET & on YOUTUBE !!
YOU do realize moron ... that you are on the INTERNET & YOUTUBE right now ??
WHAT AN ABSOLUTE IDIOT !! Jeeez !!
librophile 2 years ago
lOOKS TO ME LIKE THE MORON IS YOURSELF, SIR/ MADAM/ BOTH. SINCE SOME OF US HAVE TO WORK FOR A LIVING WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO "SURF" THE NET LIKE YOU DO. tAKE YOUR POLI SCI 101 AND STICK IT, FORIEGNER
kevinj84 2 years ago
FOREIGNER ???
Living in a different state than yours in the US of A makes me a FOREIGNER ??
Man ... you really need help ... or to brush up on your geography. You're surely not smarter than a 5th grader.
librophile 2 years ago
i think you should be smacked in the back of the head and told to pay attention to whats going to happen if this healthcare plan passes.
PAY ATTENTION TO FACTS AND STOP LETTING THE MEDIA AND THE OBAMA HYPE SHAPE YOU DUMBASS!
Stop drinking the kool-aid
JR0d2002 2 years ago
The problem with Elder Heathcare slaughter is that it's conspiracy FACT (NOT consirarcy Theory). To commmit genocide. Thjat's sick. However we are dealing with what we are dealing with today, because all those seniors are mostly O'bama Zommbies that did not that it to Heart; for what JFK said to them in 1961. If you want to know what that is, then ask?
eachtem 2 years ago
euthenasia we soon will be able to take the black pill as in the netherlands to die administered by healthcare. wow no more suicides this should satisfy the taking of guns leaving the ppl. with a way to still kill, themselves only. progress or eugenics?
mountain19 2 years ago
FIVE (5) THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE PLAN.
Come to my profile page on youtube and read my column on the right side, that provides you with the clear details on President Hopebama Health Care Plan.
NO LIES ... NO SPIN ... THE TRUTH.
librophile 2 years ago
Under Bill Clinton's administration, Hillary tried to obtain Universal Health Care for ALL Americans. The Republican Congress blocked her (Bob Doyle, Newt Gingrich) but agreed to pass the S-Chip Bill to cover children.
Hillary asked under a Social Program, for US Drugs Manufacturers to produce children vaccines at a discounted price. They refused...NOT ENOUGH PROFIT FOR THEM.
Hillary had to turn to England to have these children vaccines produced for our US children.
US DRUGS = GREED!!
librophile 2 years ago
US drug manufacturers ranked #1 in sales worldwide for 35 years. To compete with other drug producing nations, they had to sell at a great discounted price to retain market shares.
Result: Canada pays up to 80% less for US made drugs than US citizens pay here for these same drugs!!
(1) US taxpayers money PAYS for governmental research grants in the development of new US drugs.
(2) US taxpayers afterward PAY up to 80% more to buy these US drugs.
WE GET SCREWED TWICE BY BIG CORPS!!
librophile 2 years ago
I'm sure you don't make your living by working for anybig corporations, but the majority of Americans do. This is why the lefty loonie attacks on "Big Corps" never gain any momentum. Also, according torecent polls, 85% of Americans who have insurance are happy with their plans. It's only the 10% of Americans who don't have insurance who are for Nobamacare. Notice I said Americans, not people living inthe U.S. I believe Niobium is correct in your lack of understanding of the FACTS.
kevinj84 2 years ago
ALL SENATORS & GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES have a Government Run PUBLIC HEALTH CARE PLAN---which is excellent!!
ALL ARMED FORCES VETERANS have the VA Government Run PUBLIC HEALTH CARE PLAN---which is excellent !!
ALL OUR SENIORS CITIZENS have the Medicare Government Run PUBLIC HEALTH CARE PLAN---which is excellent !!
So why do RIGHT-WING REPUBLICANS---siding with Big Insurances & Big Drugs---LIE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE---and say that the Government is unable to run a PUBLIC HEALTH CARE SYSTEM?
librophile 2 years ago
hey Mr How The World Works (according to some geeky delusional fascist) if socalized medicine means no proper healthcare for the old maybe u could explain why the UKs got a higher life expectancy than the US
NorfolkCatKickers 2 years ago
It could be because they don't have the insane amount of obesity that we do.
NoleMan007 2 years ago
pardon? the US goverment interferes in health-care on many levels. the US has its insane war on drugs which means lots of kids get shot. the demographics are different and indeed many factors are different. you cant compare 2 countries like this and reduce life expectancy to one factor.
Niobium2000 2 years ago 2
REPUBLICANS OPPOSE SOCIALISM !!
Why would a Taxpaying American even want Social Program Benefits?
EUROPEANS HAVE:
- Universal Health Care & Free or Minimum-Tuition College.
- A Greater Longevity than USA & Students rank Higher in Education than Americans.
ARGUMENT: Europeans pay more TAXES than Americans do.
REALITY: Americans pay MORE for Health Care & College Tuition than Europeans pay in TAXES.
Use AMERICAN taxpayers money to benefit AMERICAN taxpayers?? Thats Socialism.
librophile 2 years ago
To the last comment...
Socialized medicine has caused horrible waiting lines in Europe, the inability of wealth of being able to purchase better care, and a lag in medical advances.
I say this as a medical student in the US with who was a biotechnologist. In my city of Houston, largest medical center in the world, we can only afford to eat medical costs of those that cant afford to pay because of the existence of health insurance payments from patients that can afford to pay. Go figure.
gosymphonic 2 years ago
gosymphonic--There is not a single country in the industrialized world that would trade their Universal Health Care with our broken system.
France is rated #1, as the best Health Care system in the world.
librophile 2 years ago
A health care system is not synonymous with medicine. The current system of issuing medical care needs a revamp (obviously), and though France is a prominent medical nation (I have had personal experience with the system in biotechnology and medicine), its demographics and the third of the size of population make it a weak comparison. A balancing act is necessary to protect our quality of medical advancement and encourage broader distribution. What you are proposing is not balanced.
gosymphonic 2 years ago
I noticed how conveniently you avoided the fact that NOT a single nation with Universal Health Care ... would even consider trading their systems with our non-existant plan.
Do not try to convince me that in 2009, the USA cannot borrow the best ideas from Canada & Europe UHC plans, who have ironed out the bugs from their UHC systems since 1976 and come up with the world best UHC for ALL Americans.
librophile 2 years ago
And socialized medicine along with unsustainable entitlement schemes is bankrupting europe.
Niobium2000 2 years ago
Wrong!! Europe, as is the USA is now undergoing an economy crisis having nothing to do with Universal Health Care.
Where the hell to you get your false info??
I bet it's from FoxNews no doubt.
FoxNews is the mouthpiece for the Right-Wing Conservative Richpublican Party, Big Insurances & Big Drugs who vehemently oppose US Universal Health Care...because it will cut into their obscene profit.
librophile 2 years ago
You dont know much economics, do you libro. look into projected costs for health/pensions/entitlements etc for european states such as france, sweden, germany, greece. these nations will be technically bankrupt in the next 20 or so years.
Niobium2000 2 years ago 8
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Niobium---I invite you to read my comments AGAIN and try this second time around to focus. Obviously you're extremely s-l-o-w in comprehension.
You may well suffer from ADD.
My propos are well substantiated. Your rant is empty and has no leg to stand on.
You must be a FoxNews viewer who wastes everybody 's time with lies, fear & smear conservative propaganda.
WE THE PEOPLE support our President Hopebama's Universal Health Care Plan.
librophile 2 years ago
I see your reply is full of ad hominum attacks, and offered no substance in reply to my comment.
I'm beginning to think you are a conservative trying to make socialists look dumb!
Niobium2000 2 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Niobium2000--QUESTION:
(1) - Are you really a MORON? ... or ...
(2) - Are you simply trying very hard to convince everyone here ... that you are in fact a TOTAL MORON ??
Who do you work for?? The Insurance Companies ... or ... the Drugs Manufacturers ??
My posts are clear & su8bstantiated with
facts ... not lies, fear & smear propaganda ... like yours.
Go crawl back into your Right-Wing Conservative Richpublican cave ...
WE THE PEOPLE want Universal Health Care !!
librophile 2 years ago
Again another post full of ad hominum attacks and zero substance. You offer zero substance and a gallon of gall.
And no I work for none of the entities you claim. Go back to college and learn some economics.
Niobium2000 2 years ago
I stand by my assumption ... you are in deed a low intellect MORON who comes here to spread the lies, fear & smear propaganda of the Right-Wing Conservative R.I.P. uplicons.
WE THE PEOPLE demand UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE for ALL Americans.
librophile 2 years ago
Again with the ad hominum attacks backed up by zero facts, libro? Hey, I can play that game, you anonymous slack-jawed troglodite. More to N Korea and enjoy the miracle of socilism!
Niobium2000 2 years ago
Actually, according to all the polls (except maybe the Daily Kos), WE THE PEOPLE do NOT support maybe-Pres. Hussein Nobama's health plan.
kevinj84 2 years ago
72% of the American People demand a Public Health Care Option.
Obviously you're a FoxNews viewer and fail to get factual information ... as usual.
librophile 2 years ago
@Niobium2000 You are spot on, even in Norway we are beginning to move towards privatization of healthcare. Unlike Sweden though we in Norway are like Saudia-rabia, we got ton of Oil and the know how to refine it as well (thanks to the US but you wount get a thanks from us dipshits). So we can keep it up many decades more if we want too. Our healtchare spending is increasing yet our capacity, efficacy and quality is diminishing, its like stagflation in healthcare. And our true unemployment is 20%
killerbee2k 1 year ago
No? That's why most Canadians who actually want medical care and not government care, come here for treatment. Quit listening to the failed sportscaster and the madcow on MSNBC, and try talking to the people who actually live in those nations.
kevinj84 2 years ago
KEVIN--The Right-Wing Republicons have spread their lies about the CANADIAN UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE System--BUT ...
Canadians were asked to vote & pick from ALL WALKS OF LIFE ... Sports, Entertainment, Inventors, etc ... the Canadian who is the most influential, respected & loved.
The Canadians overwhelmingly voted for TOMMY DOUGLAS ... the politician who gave them UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE !!
Canadians would NEVER switch their UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE with our PROFIT-DRIVEN broken down system!!
librophile 2 years ago 2
Hello. I live in Canada and like every single person i have ever spoken to on the subject, would not want a system of healthcare like yours. I know you will shoot back some shit like "Then why do you come here?" which would only be valid if it was on a mass scale. We all wait about the same time for care as you however unlike you we dont allow people to just buy their way to the front of the line as that is immoral. Also sorry we dont euthenize our elderly. Stop listening to those lies.
TorontoCanuck1978 2 years ago
@TorontoCanuck1978 I live in canada too and I'm so thankful because of our free health care. sure it's great for the rich when you have private health care but alot of americans aren't that rich! It boggles my mind how the think helping the rich get more money or stay rich helps the country as a whole.
TheChrisAntista 7 months ago
HTWW all you do is talk
no facts just opinion
creamycurdy 2 years ago
you are always talking about human rights. Health care should be a human right. It is disgusting to not help some one becuase they are poor. Why should a rich person have a longer life just cus they have money?
jordler 2 years ago
because the rich produce more,who pays for the poor health care?not the poor it's the rich,get off the fairness doctrine,is it fair for someone to produce wealth and not enjoy it while someone does nothing and gets to enjoy it?
jaxgixxer 2 years ago
millions of poor people around the world work 10x harder then any one els and they live in worst possiable way.
every one should be treated the same way. It's not a doctors job to juge some one.
there should never be a price tag on the life of a human.
money is meaning less its just paper with numbers on it.
jordler 2 years ago
because they earned it. Get your grubby hands out of peoples pocket book. Fucking entitlement syndrome. Get a job and you can get health care.
scscruzer 2 years ago
He goes on to list five common characteristics of pseudo-scientists.
1. The pseudo-scientist considers himself a genius
2. He regards other researchers as stupid, dishonest or both. By choice or necessity he operates outside the peer review system
3. He believes there is a campaign against his ideas, a campaign compared with the persecution of Galileo
4. Instead of side-stepping the mainstream, the pseudo-scientist attacks it head-on: The most revered scientist is Al-Gore
5. He coins neologisms
theinsane102 2 years ago
My jaw dropped that day when Obama brought up Japan's Lost Decade... I'd just finished studying it, and then to hear Obama claiming Japan's stimuluses (sp?) only failed because they were too late and too small, all I could think of was how Obama's already preparing excuses for the stimulus's certain failure. "Congress cut too much out, delayed it with their bickering", he'll say, as he calls Stimulus II an emergency, filled with more terrible secrets that will become law. Just my thoughts.
AScannerClearly 2 years ago
global warming is a fraud.
the CAPATALIST united states has a better healthcare system than socialized eouropean countrys (i know. my uncle in ireland had a brain tumor and the healthcare there sucks)
only the most prffesional of youtube political debaters put links to their info sources. thats why howtheworldworks rocks
FiresWithWires 2 years ago
You're a moron.
AtheismDirect 2 years ago
socialized healthcare is wonderful! people in Canada live 3 years longer because of their great system, but as far as socialized care goes, Canada isn't even that good. An example of a really good system is Australia.
spartan2600 2 years ago 3
Similar thought at 1:08:
I would like to sue religious leaders for creating mass fear of eternal damnation if you don't subject yourself to their religion.
Relloq 2 years ago
wtf socialized health care is evil you twat.
they arent the ones aiming for profit what the heck are you talking about !?
Benjamin6420 2 years ago
My mother had a car crash and nearly died. She spent months in hospital. In America this would have bankrupted the entire family. How much did her treatment cost? No idea. It was needed, so it was done.
You can't explain to somebody who knows how social medicine works that it is evil, only to people who haven't a clue and are prepared to believe the tripe that the right wing media feed on and dole out.
Anybody spouting that kind of nonsense in front of me will be defenestrated.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago
IF THAT HAPPENED IN AMERICA, you would have bought health insurance beforehand (unless you were a moron) and you would have gotten literally the best healthcare in the world. i know about socialized healthcare because i experienced it myself.
FiresWithWires 2 years ago
Only morons don't buy insurance. Right. I thought it was poor people who didn't buy insurance. I thought that was the point of it. A safety net for everybody. If you want gold plated healthcare you can buy insurance and get it. When the National Health Service was proposed the doctors hated it and kicked up a fuss. Now the easiest way to get yourself annihilated in an election is to propose American style health care. No country which has socialized medicine has ever gone back to the dark ages.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago 4
You should change your name to "how the American right wing thinks".
evolsteveve 2 years ago 4
You don't seriously think that there are people who believe in the Flying Spaghetti monster, do you?
I know you are delusional, but I did not think you were that stupid.
Socialised medicine! Great! Now perhaps America can have a decent health care system instead of the pathetic mess it is now.
Might even get to be as good as Canada's!
MNICY 2 years ago
most socialized healthcare countries are in a worse mess then america by far.
Let me explain something to you. if i decide not to smoke because i dont want to get lung cancer, then its unlikley that i will pay bills for an oporation to cure it. in socialized medicine, i will be paying the med bill for smokers, druggies, and people who have poor judgement about danger, even if I watch my own health, dont smoke, eat right and dont use drugs. by the way, that actress died in canada cause the med
FiresWithWires 2 years ago
Have you lived in a country with socialised medicine?
Have you talked to people from these countries? How do you know you are right on this?
MNICY 2 years ago 3
If it is so terrible why don't they repeal it? They don't repeal it because the people want it. That's what we in the civilized world call democracy. Maybe one day soon it will spread to America.
The idea that the rest of the world is out of step with you is a sign of madness.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago
If you believe that Europe is a democracy (notice I didn't mention a nation as there are none now with the E.U.) then YOU are the one who is mad.
kevinj84 2 years ago
um.... this kid who has a phobia f global warming, the bases for one of your rants, most likely has an effed up psyche record to begin with! thats a paranoia issue for fucks sake
stratomasterr 3 years ago
yea a Socialized health system is so bad. my aunty had a stroke and she has been in the hopsital for almost a month and is going to rehab for 100% free. Tell me how great capitalist health care is when your poor . everyone should get the same health care. just becasue you have money is no reason for you should live longer then a poor person.
jordler 3 years ago 10
Dude... you are like... WOW...
Super Special Awesome Epic to the Extreme with Leet Sauce and Uber Berries... SRSLY...
EvilWolf2 3 years ago
Democracy is suppose to be government of the people and for the people, with everyone getting an equal vote (which sounds somewhat communistic when you think about it). In reality big business and the rich hire lobbiest and taints the system with political donations to candidates that will do their bidding once elected. As long as big business are allow to interfere in government, there will always be a disconnect between what's good for the general population and the rich.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
45+ million uninsured Americans
25 million under insured Americans
50% of personal bankrupcies are due to medical expenses
75% of bankrupcies due to medical bills are of people who HAVE private health insurance
"just about anyone could be one bad diagnosis away from financial ruin"
"uninsured - end up being charged the most." A biopsy billed to an insuance company at $900 costs $7,756 to an uninsured patient.
Under universal health care, we merely show our health card. End of story.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago 5
Go to a country with socialized medicine. You will see ours is MUCH better than theirs. We have the best healthcare on earth why the heck would we want to change that? We still can help healthcare by not giving it to illegals and by not suing people with no basis and winning. It is not private healthcares fault. It is the ACLU's
SpartanOstrich15 3 years ago
Hopefully you can opt out for life tax wise from medicare and the universal health care system due out by year's end.
Sure trust private for profit health care insurance system. An insurance system that will abandon bad risks (ie you'll eventually get really sick). These companies will up your premiums and deductable with age if nothing less, and eventually cut you off and/or use excuses not to pay.
If the US system is so great, why don't other countries trade universal health care for it?
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago 2
"Go to a country with socialized medicine. You will see ours is MUCH better than theirs. We have the best healthcare on earth why the heck would we want to change that? We still can help healthcare by not giving it to illegals and by not suing people with no basis and winning. It is not private healthcares fault. It is the ACLU's"
How come I can just go to a hospital and get treatment for free... and I do mean for free, because I am an immigrant in a socialized medicine country.
RationalFuture 3 years ago 2
with the bill currently in congress the government gets to decide if you are worth the expense of the treatment that your Doctor deems necessary.
brsprin 3 years ago
Something about terminal patients with little hope of recover whether through very expensive and/or experimental treatment. How is this any different from an insurance company declaring a treatment is experimental and therefore not covered, and prefering a prolonged but cheaper court battle, in the hope the plantiff dies before a settlement?
In universal health care, there is nothing stopping anyone from spending their legacy on last ditch desperate treatments.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
that is some good ownage you got there.
jordler 3 years ago
Maybe a 2-tier health system would appease and let those who have blind faith in the private insurance for profit model opt out of a government run insurance system that everyone else would pay into.
Last week's Time magazine's cover story is about health care, which they say even with full private health insurance coverage, "you're still only one bad illness away from bankrupcy".
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AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
Does a garbage man make the same income as an attorney? I doubt it, unless the garbage man owns his own company and has many trucks, or the attorney doesn't have any clients, seing as the US has more attornies per capita then any where else on earth.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
that is how communism works. Everyone has the same income, regardless of career. This way there is no incentive to do different types of careers, at least in a pecuniary way.
AvidElephant 3 years ago
Just like Shopping at Walmart ..that is so socialist it isnt funny ..they Never paid for Health Care for their workers and I got sick in 2003 I was refused @ The County The head Nurse told me the state was bankrupt from WalMart and illegals that Bush let into Tennessee ..Bush needs to Burn
nohealthcare62 3 years ago 2
Partly right. In communism everyone is assumed to be idealistic and working for the common good and not themselves. Communistic idealism is no match for capitalistic greed. In communism people do make similar salaries, but in practise there are some salary levels to reward seniority, education, and production, as well certain jobs/careers are easier then others, and have hidden fringe benefits.
In communism becoming educated and securing a soft job to rest your laurels on is a big incentive.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
Hopefully Obama's universal health care plan will be two tier, and offer HTWW and Scscruzer and others like them the option to opt out for life in favour of the existing for profit private insurance system.
Do you think the insurance companies will reward that loyalty with anything other then fleecing policy holders in the long run?
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
Many doctors are in it for the money. Some of the nastiest people I know became doctors.
Scscruzer claims to be Christian? He's a hyprocrite so that figures.
Bad luck can strike anyone, a car accident, cancer, etc. Why shouldn't these health costs be spread over the entire population, instead of financially destroying the unluck and elderly?
A population with universal health care, is free from the many issues of a costly private insurance system who's goal is to maximize profits.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
I have no illusions at converting ultra right wingers. It was however highly entertaining and embarrassingly easy to bend Scscruzer out of shape and induce angry comical responses from him.
Scscruzer is like most right wing HTWW posters. He think that trading like opinions, devoid of fact, long enough with others that share his view will not only convince them that they are right but transform their opinions into fact.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
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AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
And Again, Akido, If the guy making a porn video deserves millions from it, why can't I make some money from curing a disease? Health care was never a right. Its not in our constitution as a right. Go read it. ITS A PRODUCT as is EVERYTHING. Everything is for sale. Think about it socialist pig. I LOVE MY MARKET. The reason we are number 1 and your number????? Wait who gives a fuck about your back country. We don't care about your country, unless it can make us money. Thank you
scscruzer 3 years ago
Unlike you I'm not a fine connoisseur of porn, as I prefer to have a girlfriend.
Sure everything is for sale, in capitalism, like porn and sex, good for you.
How often are diseases cured?
There is nothing stopping a drug company from making loads of money during the life of their patents, but they are more likely to make huge price concessions to the government to secure a national market.
Canada is #1 on the UN HDI for 7 consecutive years. The US is #15. Good point.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
you don;t have to be a "connoisseur" of porn. Implying that I am a porn freak is actually funny. Im pointing at the pathetic and comparing it to the great.
During the life of their patients? How about when something better comes along and puts them out of business. They have a right to charge for what they invested in. You and the MAN have no right dictating anything to private industry.
Again, no one cares about Canada. Stay out of our business you socialistic ass.
scscruzer 3 years ago
OK so the pathetically great can make millions. Good luck on that.
I said patents not patients, the difference is more then the letter "i"; check a dictionary.
If something better comes along, then the government negociates with the old and new supplier, and gets optimal revised pricing from both. That's efficient not dictating. Dictating is when private industry imposes staged pricing, to maximize profits while exploit everyone from early adopters to generic users. A monopoly in a word.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
Some consider Hitlers rule more efficient then ours. Unitarian ....efficiency means squat. I think the invester who comes up with HIS product deserves some dinero. HE DOES NOT deserve government to cut his prices in half to where he is making hardly any profit. The risk isnt worth it. NO INNOVATION.
scscruzer 3 years ago
First you say socialism is horribly inefficient, but now you' admit that an extreme form of socialism (fascism), was highly efficient. You're learning.
If you invent and produce a drug for $1 and sell it for $11, that's a 1000% profit, but you'd settle for $2 or 100% profit. Drug companies also settle for less in a universal health care system. The government doesn't impose prices, the drug companies agree to negociate as it's still very much worth their while even if they can't price gouge.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
Do you think the government owes you national security or a public education? What tulip777 is saying is that healthcare should be part of national security.
If you're against universal healthcare then I'd guess you're against public education as well.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
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hubristime 3 years ago
Perfectly said on the lost decade.
HelmerandRawlins 3 years ago
How much do I have to drink before you make any sense???
hamshow 3 years ago
Don't manage your mental illness. It's hilarious for the rest of us!
odinata 3 years ago
Many Canadian retirees flock to Florida for the winter, the "snow birds", but if they get sick they run back to Canada for treatment if they can, even though they bought US medical travel insurance.
The Canadian laser eye surgery business is booming in large part because of Americans who come here for better care at half the price. By the way corrective/"cosmetic" eye surgery is not covered by our universal health care, and so like the Americans Canadians have to pay out of their own pocket.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
As a canuck I can say everything you said is bang on.
Why is it that the US is the only industrialized nation without universal medical care?
If the US system is so great, why aren't other nations falling over themselves to adopt that system?
The reality is that it is political suicide for a politian in a nation with universal care to even suggest tampering with universal health care, and that's the best confirmation that it works far better and at much less cost then the US system.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
Excellent point about the census, very scary.
What's wrong with socialized medicine?
Isn't medicare US socialized medicine for those over the age of 65?
Doesn't medicare account for 20% of the federal budget?
I don't get the, limiting of care to the elderly, or limiting experimental care on the elderly, or limit new technology to the elderly. Doesn't sound very socialized, although you seem very much for socialize medicine in these cases.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
what he was saying is that this is showing the governments wanting to restrict care. so if they somehow pass universal health care for everyone. the government is going to decide how you should be treated. do you want the government telling you what they think is best. its already happening there is a piece in the stimulus bill that states that the government is to help doctors on there Decision on some situations
zakattak80 3 years ago
The doctors determine what the care options are, and that's the same in a private or universal health care system. What howtheworldworks is saying is that he dislikes the fact that the government will not fund every possible option to keep the elderly alive, which is hypocritical, because on the one hand he's against any funding and on the other he wants infinite funding. Medicine can only go reasonably so far, but if you want to go further there is nothing stopping you for using your own money.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
Or maybe those who have a job can get healthcare, unlike the elderly who can't work anymore. See your flaw. I know I sure do. See if you work, you can get money. you take that money and buy insurance. See you have the choice to be a freeloader or a hardworker recieving quality healthcare. stop supporting a weaker america. The victim mentality is getting very old. The democrats is the victims party. Poor me poor me. help me! I love my country and what it stands for. And this freeloading is Bull.
scscruzer 3 years ago
What flaw? The elderly had jobs all their lives until they retired. What you're saying is that the elderly don't deserve health care because they "can't work anymore" and only "those who have a job can get healthcare". Where's your compassion? You do realize you'll be old and unable to work one day too, and you'll be singing a different tune then.
Don't you know that Universal heath care is not a free ride? It's a national health care insurance system that most everyone contributes to.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
no the flaw is that you would trade universal healthcare for alot of the options elderly people have. If you have a job you should have healthcare. These posts are perfectly rational. Your Canadian and you have no say in our matters. Its like me telling Englishmen what kind of capitalist society they should have. Its not my fucking country. Compassion? You mean for all the poor victims? We already have programs to help that small percentage of americans.
scscruzer 3 years ago
There is an exrememly small amount of people that cannot get jobs due to issues. The other percentage are people living off the system. We can't afford this magical system you speak of. We can't even afford the baby boomer generation. We have programs for the elderly and its perfectly fine. Now when you spend all your budge on everyones healthcare you have to cut costs. The elderly are the odd ends out. Universal healthcare is not rational. Its a eutopia POS ideal that comes from socialism
scscruzer 3 years ago
People should have equal everything. Equal healthcare, equal house, equal job, equal, equal, equal. People dont want to be equal, they want to better themselves. This is why we are a capitalist nation. Socialist idealology has failed and its a fucked up system. We have a system in place to where if you work hard enough you can afford healthcare. Anyone can. This eutopia nonsense is not logical and goes against human nature. I would rather have a job and work for quality healthcare
scscruzer 3 years ago
When has the USA become a freeloading nation that rides on the back of the tax payer and the government. Its pathetic. America is the best country in the world. Dont agree? than why are you posting opinion on other countries healthcare systems. I love capitalism.Its sad it creates losers, but thats the way it is. We can help the losers as best we can,but its never going to be a eutopia where everyone gets free everything.Thats not how capitalism works. Government is the problem, not the solution
scscruzer 3 years ago
4 replies?
Why do all other industrial CAPITALISTIC nations have universal health care, and would never consider trading it for private US health insurance?
The US medicare only covers people 65 and over and it's TWICE as expensive as universal medical care that covers EVERYONE. If you can afford cutting medicare costs in half and not buying private insurance then you can afford universal care.
The UN ranks the US as #30 for quality of life and #45 for health care.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
First of all you are throwing out statistics with no sources. Second, explain to me once we get passed the hurdle of affording Univ. Health insurance....what do you think is going to happen to research technology when the government regulates all the prices so it can afford it. Guess what....less cures and less research because they wont be getting paid. Doctors wages will go down, new medical technology will go down. This is the effects of socialism.
scscruzer 3 years ago
Socialism hinders progress because once the government start regulating your pharmaceutical prices, than as a risk taking researcher, I do not want to take that high of a risk finding a cure. Why don't you open up a history book anbd see what universal things do. Socialism is a failure and so is your logic. It sounds nice on the outside, but once you really look at it with our American system, you go oh....wait....thats NOT going to work. Government is NOT the solution!!!
scscruzer 3 years ago
Yes. Don't scare them with facts. They run in different directions and have to use meaningless words like "socialist". That's because the facts, truth and logic are on our side of the argument. Most of them are totally clueless. Just read a comment from the guy who is afraid of universal healthcare because he doesn't want the government bureaucrats to make medical decisions. That's what insurance bureacrats do all the time!! It's the medical mafia that makes the rules!
tulip777 3 years ago 2
The census information is great! I just re-learned something that I forgot about. Thanks! :-)
bunnyluv41 3 years ago
Michael Savage says liberalism is a form of mental illness....LOL
Netdo7 3 years ago
In a system where those who supply services can charge whatever they feel like because people will pay and do anything to save their lives and lives of their loved ones only morons can make noises about "supply and demand". Most of Americans have to deal with corporate criminal monopolies when it comes to healthcare. Insurance companies would rather have you die than lose a buck. You don't even see the difference between a lemonade stand and a healthcare provider. Go listen to Rush Limbaugh.
tulip777 3 years ago 4
Don't US health insurance companies look for excuses to deny coverage? Then the patient has to hire a lawyer to fight their insurance company, hoping they won't die or go bankrupt first.
What's stopping the insurance companies from hiking up rates and even cut you off when you start to get sick and become a bad risk?
It's criminal what hospitals do with the uninsured. They multiply the costs they'd charge insurance companies by 10, and then the patient has to fight for a lower bill.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
"What's stopping the insurance companies from hiking up rates and even cut you off when you start to get sick and become a bad risk?"
The fact that 1) people will sue for damages and 2) once word gets out of the business practices of that company, people will take their money elsewhere.
1emart1 3 years ago
What if all health insurance companies have basically the same practices? Then where will people take their money?
Car insurance companies also hike up rates for increasingly poor risks, and ultimately can cancel coverage. Is sueing them an option? Most people merely seek out a very expensive insurer who specializes in higher risk clients. Sueing is mostly impractical.
People buy insurance based on price and coverage. A cheap price goes a long way.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
Your philosophy is so twisted that you don't even understand the concept of "government". Saying that the government owes you something is like saying that you owe it to yourself. Stop listening to Limbaugh and Hannity. They are part of the system and are there for a reason. I happen to think that the government's sole reason for existence is to serve us at our pleasure. Direct taxation should be illegal. Taxing human labor should be a crime. Our goverment is only a tool. Be mad at it's master.
tulip777 3 years ago
The unemployed in Western Europe have more protection than many people with 2 or more jobs in the US. And many do need 2 or more jobs to survive in this country. And when you compare the unemployment rates don't forget that true unemployment numbers are not considered. They don't even count people who exhausted their benefits and gave up on finding a job. Our "government" and the entire system are set up to serve the corporate interests and to deflect your anger from the elites who rob you.
tulip777 3 years ago 4
What you're saying is that we shouldn't have universal healthcare because the doctors wouldn't be able to charge whatever they want, and everyone else, who according to you is lazy and stupid, doesn't deserve to have what every civilized country has. I think those uneven parallel bars were placed way too high above the ground. Once they squeeze everything out of you they teach you the virtues of individualism". Genius, our government is a tool of corporate monopolies. You can't separate them.
tulip777 3 years ago
America is ranked 32ed in world in terms of Healthcare? and it is one of the only countries to not have universal healthcare?
Imagine that.
KidsTrax 3 years ago
Absolutely. Just read these stupid comments. One guy argues that we shouldn't have universal healthcare because it would limit the income of doctors and reward the people who are lazy and stupid. Our problem is that 50% of our population has been brainwashed to the point of having their heads so far up their asses that they are beyond help.
tulip777 3 years ago
Can't agree with you and kidsTrax more.
The US spends 20% of it's federal budget on medicare, but that only covers people 65 and over. Universal care that covers everyone from birth to death costs less then 10% of those countries budgets. Double the costs for 15 years coverage versus half the cost for 80 years coverage. That doesn't even factor in personal medical insurance from ages 0-65, deductables, etc. It's obvious that the US medical and drug companies are milking their citizens.
AikidoBoxing 3 years ago
Drugs come from private industry and they deserve to make money off their product. Its capitalism. get a job you weak sack of shit. 99 percent of us are capable of getting insurance. Dont even play the victim bullshit. Anything in America is possible. Go to school, get a part time job, better yourself. Or you can just stay where u are believing thats as far as you can go because you were raised to believe you are poor and weak and that the government will take care of you
scscruzer 3 years ago
But for me, I think ill rely on myself to protect me. STOP SUPORTING WEAKNESS AMERICA! We the people. Not we the government. Wake up everyday striving to be better than the day before and I garantee you wont have to worry about health insurance. These democrats make it seem like the government is the solution to all when its the problem 90 percent of the time. It time we stand up and turn our lives and our country around. Stick to what made america great!
scscruzer 3 years ago
Oh yeah stay the fuck out of US affairs. I know plenty of canadians that hate your POS healthcare system.
scscruzer 3 years ago