This stock was specially built for the Victoria Line so will only fit its tunnels... and not other deep level tube lines. The trains are too big.
The Bakerloo will be getting new walk-through trains. That is if rising sea levels (2ft expected by 2017) do not create flooding problems for the entire system.
Not also that but also the Victoria Line could extend to Woodford or South Woodford in Northeast London and to West Croydon, East Croydon, Herne Hill and Crystal Palace.
The Victoria Line cannot extend anywhere, as it barely manages to cope with existing passenger numbers!
It is possible that the Epping Branch of the Central Line will become part of the Chelsea - Hackney Line, in the process being converted back to 'larger' trains.
If Bombardier did made the Movia 2009 tube stocks for the Victoria Line then they should also built it for the Central Line, Bakerloo Line & Waterloo & City Lines to replace the older stocks except Northern & Jubilee Lines because those tube trains on the Northern & Jubilee Lines are awesome & very quick.
Northern Line trains are anything but quick! Indeed, they are noticeably slower than the trains they replaced, which as a (sometimes) passenger is like torture. In part this is because of their being restricted to something like 60% power, which also applied to the Jubilee Line trains until that line had its ATO working.
The next fleet of 'tube' sized trains in London will probably be based on the fully walk-through 'space train' concept.
A good clip. Made me feel as if I was there in the train. One thing... I am happy that our Delhi Metro is also good as compared to this ,in view of the fact that it carries far far more passengers per day.( 1.6 million per day average ).. And Delhi metro is equally clean despite such a huge load.
most of the 67 stock goes to scrap/recycling the carriage or unit that the queen rode on when the line opened will be preserved. as for the 09 stock yes they can run a lot faster, however london underground has a set regulation for acceleration of there trains for passenger comfort levels so if unlimited they can run a whole lot faster, they just never will reach there full potential.
Horrible nasty characterless trains that have the interior appearance of a brightly lit public toilet! Where has our flair for style and innovation gone? these trains are way too clinical and far to brightly lit! Bring back the 67 stock!
Tomorrow (30th June 2011) is the last day of the 67's. Then the line can have the old automated control systems switched off and the trains can start using regenerative (instead of rheostatic / brake shoe) braking, which hopefully will help reduce the oven-like temps. in the tunnels.
I still think that they should have gone for the fully articulated 'space train' concept.
As you say, the interiors are very brash and very clinical. I think the seat moquette pattern does not help here.
@bijnaonweerstaanbaar HA! just wait until the resignalling is complete - you'll have to hold tight as the acceleration will give you a mild sensation of G forces!
As I underfstand it the idea was to have trains which accelerate quickley, but whilst the old trains are on the line so the new ones cannot operate at full pelt.
@Cazkumali probably none - AIUI the Victoria Line tunnels are slightly larger than other tube lines so these trains wont fit them!
Anyway, a different design of fully walk-through train is being proposed for the Bakerloo, Piccadily and Central Lines, plus perhaps to augment the existing fleet on the Northern Line (especially if the Battersea extension is built).
@kaiyan246 I know what you mean, but dont know why - unless its to help the hard of hearing (in which case the noise will soon make us all hard of hearing)
Hehe, I used to use the very same underground line some weeks ago, when I went to London. The London underground is very cool, i like the announcements for some reason. But this continuous "mind the gap" went on my nerves after the 2nd time I was entering/leaving the train. Does anyone know a video that has an annoucement from victoria line in good quality?
Not quite they sound similar to the 1996 Stock respectively if you look at it from another perspective. However the 2009 Stock does seem to be more in height then in width when it enters the tunnel.
@oncesober ALso love how nippy hey are, unlike the sluggish Northern Line ones (baring in mind the Northern ones are governed at60% power until the new tracks arein place).
Is there any chance that the 1967 stock will still be in service during September next year? because hopefully, I will be able to go to England next year.
@trainz10 Thats a good question, and I am not sure of the answer.
However 1972 Mk2 stock will still be being used on the Bakerloo Line - and these trains are visually identical.
Also, some of the individual cars on the Victoria Line are actually 1972Mk1 stock, but unless you look at the year plate on the floor in the doorway or the individual car numbers you will not know the difference. Again, they look and sound the same as the 1967 trains.
@citytransportinfo I believe the invididual 1972 stock MkI carriages were the ones used on the Northern Line up till the late 1990s (when they operated as seven carriage trains alongside the seven carriage 1959 and 1962 stock).
@295route Thanks, yes re: the 1972 stock that sounds about right.
but, are you sure that 1962 stock worked on the Northern Line? I thought that only the 1956 (experimental) and 1959 worked on the Northern, alongside the 1938 stock and the 1972 stocks (initially both Mk1 and Mk11, although the latter soon went elsewhere).
@citytransportinfo Yes! When the Picadilly Line got their '73 stock, their 59/62 stock went to the Northern Line to replace the '38 stock, hence making the Northern Line from '38 and '72 to '59/62 and '72 stock. The experimental stock that look a cross between the 62 and 67 stock i believe was used on the Central Line from Woodford to Hailnaut via Grange Hill.
Some MkII 72 stocks were indeed used on the Northern Line. These had came from the Jubiee Line, but the MkII then went onto the Bakerloo line where they've mostly been since.
@unknownperson95 Both the '67 stock and '09 stock are computer driven to stop and start at each station regardless of if it's opened or closed. The driver does the doors manually.
Lol and apparently the 67 stock is much cooler than the 2009! The 2009 apparently has a design flaw that causes the air blown into the carriages to warm up.
@CopenhagenEast yes they do accelerate quickly - but their full power will only be used when the old trains have gone and the new signalling system is used.
Nice to see they're nice and nippy, unlike the sluggish Northern Line stock (baring in mind the latter are governed to run on 60% power until the new signals and tracks are fully in place).
This is a great video but how sad that the marvellous 1967 stock is to be replaced by these monstrosities. I've been on these new trains once and they seemed to be having trouble getting the doors to close although this doesn't seem to be happening on yourr video.
The new trains look nice and sound nice too, but didn't they say these would be slightly larger? And slightly cooler? Felt just as warm and narrow to me.
@falkerhard they are larger, but only slightly. I dont have exact measurements but we are talking about mere inches... and if what someone told me is correct are too large to fit into most the 'tube' sized tunnels used by other underground lines. (Piccadilly, Northern, Central, Bakerloo - I'm not sure about Jubilee)
As for cooler, well they are supposed to have better ventilation, and as the tunnels are so warm do not have any heating...
The Jubille Line may be included in that as Swiss Cottage and St John's Wood as the two UNDERGROUND stations that give away the fact that part of the Jubillee Line was the old branch of the Bakerloo Line.
@AimalCool only 2 trains (when i last checked!) are already in use, and they run at the same time every day. itll be a while before the old trains are got rid of
the whole problem with all public transport is its so cramped and uncomfortable. Then again though being in a car is even more cramped as you are wedged in behind a steering wheel and ur shoulder is tight against the edge of the interior. In someway walking or cycling is nicer. those london cabs are realy horrible to get in and out of with luggage due to the layout of the door. THey shoud have electric doors on those london cans for easy entry. transport needs to be less cramped
@wangtong04 are they? It didn't feel like that when I was in London. In fact, I felt that 1967 stock were faster than any other train on the network, but perhaps it's the acceleration...
The 2009 stock or so they say is on nightly trial services only. If I remember correctly there are 2 services per day up and down the line since there is only 1 train down in London.
They have been running at in the day for a while now, but not yet in the peak hours.
There is only 1 train in service (pre-production train 2), but there are three trains of 09TS in London. Train 1 is fitted with testing equipment and can't be used in service, and train 4 (first production train to be delivered) is still testing and hasn't entered service yet.
Thanks - but I thought that until they started to (quite literally) fall apart the Central Line's 1992 stock had a max speed of 70mph!
The 3 month closure of the Central Line while the trains were partially rebuilt was a real pain, as I needed to use them to go to work and at the time had a bad leg which made walking to an alternative station much harder. The walk was through the park, as it was much shorter than following local roads.
Anyone can edit on Wikipedia. Yes. But when you say this kind of information, you need to add a source for proof of your edits. If there is no proof, your edits will be reverted. It says 80mph for a LONG time now...
Maybe the 2009 stock can go 80mph, but it is limited to 50mph?
They can't run faster unti all of the old trains 67TS are gone!!!! Otherwise the new train will catch up too quickly with the new one, plus meanwhile the new trains are running with the old ones they are doing exactly the same things like the old trains:-)
tube train yes - for surface stock look at the Q38 / CP / CO / COP / R stock, which are all more or less identical visually but different electrically.
I have a *little* of these in super 8 (silent)film, maybe I should copy it to the computer and share here?
@ianbillericay I remember them on the Northern Line as a kid in the early 70s, and when they were finally withdrawn from the Bakerloo Line between 1982 and 1986. Also remember when four 7 car trains make a brief comeback on the Northern Line for a couple of months during the late 80s/early 90s as a frequency enhancement.
Not wishing to sound the death knell on the lovely 1938 stock there but wouldn't it be a good idea if Island line trains started to look at buying some 1967 stock trains when these are eventually replaced by the new trains depicted in this video. I.m sure the automatic train control system could be converted back to manual control without too much hassle.
I know, it was a shame that the lady was looking straight at me in that way - I seriously considered cutting the video for the few seconds it took her to sit down, but because of the announcement about Warren Street being closed I decided that doing this would ruin the film.
If I had of known in advance that she was going to stare staright ahead instead of looking around (which is what most people do) I would have filmed differently.
Lol. I tend to be overconscious of people being offended by getting filmed and maybe risk of getting attacked... so I actually point it at the floor if there is people or something... all I can say is you're brave waving a camera around on the LUL, at all...........
Alas not, as there is nowehere to vent the waste heat.
When I was a young child my father took me on the Victoria Line just after it had opened, as he was curious to see a train which drives itself. I remember noticing how cold it was on the platform. Nowadays a person only has to enter a Victoria Line platform and the heat hits them - the trains are even hotter once you get on them.
on the 1967 stock only the driving motor cars have this style of seating.
What would have been a real improvement is the 'space train' concept which would have seen fully articulated tube trains where passengers can walk through the train and move from 'very crowded' to 'less crowded' areas.
I saw this being designed in 1999, I cannot prove this but suspect that privatisation of the Underground is the ultimate reason why that style of train is not now being used.
it depends on how its done.Trains do not need to be fully articulated to feature full 'walk-through' capability (see the new 378 Overground trains) but articulation can be beneficial because it reduces weight. It also makes higher speed trains safer!
By elminating carriage ends an 8 carriage train can gain something like 6 -8 years / metres in extra passenger space.
In Copenhagen, Denmark, they use short articulated carriages as it allows them to be wider and provide 3 +3 seating!
If I was on a long distance train, and it was articulated it wouldnt feel like a comfortable private atmosphere then more like riding a comfortable tram
I prefer the older "pulsed" door warning alarm... much nicer!
unlokia 1 week ago
I think this stock should also be on the Bakerloo Line
hakc97isback 1 month ago
@hakc97isback
This stock was specially built for the Victoria Line so will only fit its tunnels... and not other deep level tube lines. The trains are too big.
The Bakerloo will be getting new walk-through trains. That is if rising sea levels (2ft expected by 2017) do not create flooding problems for the entire system.
citytransportinfo 1 month ago
Not also that but also the Victoria Line could extend to Woodford or South Woodford in Northeast London and to West Croydon, East Croydon, Herne Hill and Crystal Palace.
andyncfcgetshypedup 3 months ago
@andyncfcgetshypedup
The Victoria Line cannot extend anywhere, as it barely manages to cope with existing passenger numbers!
It is possible that the Epping Branch of the Central Line will become part of the Chelsea - Hackney Line, in the process being converted back to 'larger' trains.
citytransportinfo 3 months ago
If Bombardier did made the Movia 2009 tube stocks for the Victoria Line then they should also built it for the Central Line, Bakerloo Line & Waterloo & City Lines to replace the older stocks except Northern & Jubilee Lines because those tube trains on the Northern & Jubilee Lines are awesome & very quick.
andyncfcgetshypedup 3 months ago
@andyncfcgetshypedup
Northern Line trains are anything but quick! Indeed, they are noticeably slower than the trains they replaced, which as a (sometimes) passenger is like torture. In part this is because of their being restricted to something like 60% power, which also applied to the Jubilee Line trains until that line had its ATO working.
The next fleet of 'tube' sized trains in London will probably be based on the fully walk-through 'space train' concept.
citytransportinfo 3 months ago
A good clip. Made me feel as if I was there in the train. One thing... I am happy that our Delhi Metro is also good as compared to this ,in view of the fact that it carries far far more passengers per day.( 1.6 million per day average ).. And Delhi metro is equally clean despite such a huge load.
sinvijay 7 months ago
most of the 67 stock goes to scrap/recycling the carriage or unit that the queen rode on when the line opened will be preserved. as for the 09 stock yes they can run a lot faster, however london underground has a set regulation for acceleration of there trains for passenger comfort levels so if unlimited they can run a whole lot faster, they just never will reach there full potential.
rik94523 7 months ago
does anyone know whats gonna happen to the 67 stock now?
itsthatsebguy93 8 months ago
Horrible nasty characterless trains that have the interior appearance of a brightly lit public toilet! Where has our flair for style and innovation gone? these trains are way too clinical and far to brightly lit! Bring back the 67 stock!
metadyneman 8 months ago
Tomorrow (30th June 2011) is the last day of the 67's. Then the line can have the old automated control systems switched off and the trains can start using regenerative (instead of rheostatic / brake shoe) braking, which hopefully will help reduce the oven-like temps. in the tunnels.
I still think that they should have gone for the fully articulated 'space train' concept.
As you say, the interiors are very brash and very clinical. I think the seat moquette pattern does not help here.
citytransportinfo 8 months ago
what was the driver saying???
bennyboymad99 9 months ago
Do those things actually pull away faster than the '92 stock? I always found those to be pretty fast and pulling out and pulling in to stations.
MumblesCA 11 months ago
I cant wait untill these trains run on full power! Is the 2009 stock going to have the same acceration as the 1992 stock?
wangtong04 1 year ago
@wangtong04
Well stick the 2009 Stock on the central line Stratford - Liverpool Street section then you'll find out.. 3 very long straights of top speed..
jack253 11 months ago
I ride on these every day Finsbury Park - Pimlico. Very comfortable, and they go like shit off a shovel.
bijnaonweerstaanbaar 1 year ago
@bijnaonweerstaanbaar HA! just wait until the resignalling is complete - you'll have to hold tight as the acceleration will give you a mild sensation of G forces!
As I underfstand it the idea was to have trains which accelerate quickley, but whilst the old trains are on the line so the new ones cannot operate at full pelt.
citytransportinfo 1 year ago
@citytransportinfo In the future what other lines will the 2009TS run on?
Cazkumali 1 year ago
@Cazkumali probably none - AIUI the Victoria Line tunnels are slightly larger than other tube lines so these trains wont fit them!
Anyway, a different design of fully walk-through train is being proposed for the Bakerloo, Piccadily and Central Lines, plus perhaps to augment the existing fleet on the Northern Line (especially if the Battersea extension is built).
Simon
citytransportinfo 1 year ago
@citytransportinfo have u been on the new s stock yet
Cazkumali 1 year ago
@Cazkumali Yes - and I have a video about them, here on youtube!
citytransportinfo 1 year ago
@bijnaonweerstaanbaar Do you know the best bit about that? They aren't even running at full acceleration yet. :P
456013matt 10 months ago
@ kzbxvz
Agreed! :-)
Simon
citytransportinfo 1 year ago
Looks absolutely great. But the1938 stock will always be a legend.
kzbxvz 1 year ago
XD why is it soo loud it hurts my ears
kaiyan246 1 year ago
@kaiyan246 I know what you mean, but dont know why - unless its to help the hard of hearing (in which case the noise will soon make us all hard of hearing)
Simon
citytransportinfo 1 year ago
i always get the 1967 stock on public holidays no idea why i think im unlucky
kaiyan246 1 year ago
@fatboy22222222222222 Trash?
cake5000 1 year ago
VERY NICE!
PokemonPowerGirl13 1 year ago
4:54-5:13 -> *tschuh* and gone is the tube.
Hehe, I used to use the very same underground line some weeks ago, when I went to London. The London underground is very cool, i like the announcements for some reason. But this continuous "mind the gap" went on my nerves after the 2nd time I was entering/leaving the train. Does anyone know a video that has an annoucement from victoria line in good quality?
SeverusSnapeFan2 1 year ago
I am yet to ride on the new trains (shame about the recent breakdown though) - when they accelerate, they sound similar to the 92 TS?
ReneIgnacio 1 year ago
@ReneIgnacio
Not quite they sound similar to the 1996 Stock respectively if you look at it from another perspective. However the 2009 Stock does seem to be more in height then in width when it enters the tunnel.
jack253 1 year ago
At 53 second intothe video there's a light that flashes near the top of the doors. Is that some sort of infared?
295route 1 year ago
@295route
no - its probably the near invisible 'door open' indicator which flashes just before the doors close.
Its so small that you need to be looking for it to see it.
Simon
citytransportinfo 1 year ago
@citytransportinfo Are the 2009 stock trains made by bombardier
Cazkumali 1 year ago
Love the sound the 2009 stock make. Sounds like proper jet engines ( probably are :P )
oncesober 1 year ago
@oncesober ALso love how nippy hey are, unlike the sluggish Northern Line ones (baring in mind the Northern ones are governed at60% power until the new tracks arein place).
295route 1 year ago
Is there any chance that the 1967 stock will still be in service during September next year? because hopefully, I will be able to go to England next year.
trainz10 1 year ago
@trainz10 Thats a good question, and I am not sure of the answer.
However 1972 Mk2 stock will still be being used on the Bakerloo Line - and these trains are visually identical.
Also, some of the individual cars on the Victoria Line are actually 1972Mk1 stock, but unless you look at the year plate on the floor in the doorway or the individual car numbers you will not know the difference. Again, they look and sound the same as the 1967 trains.
Simon
citytransportinfo 1 year ago
@citytransportinfo I believe the invididual 1972 stock MkI carriages were the ones used on the Northern Line up till the late 1990s (when they operated as seven carriage trains alongside the seven carriage 1959 and 1962 stock).
295route 1 year ago
@295route Thanks, yes re: the 1972 stock that sounds about right.
but, are you sure that 1962 stock worked on the Northern Line? I thought that only the 1956 (experimental) and 1959 worked on the Northern, alongside the 1938 stock and the 1972 stocks (initially both Mk1 and Mk11, although the latter soon went elsewhere).
citytransportinfo 1 year ago
@citytransportinfo Yes! When the Picadilly Line got their '73 stock, their 59/62 stock went to the Northern Line to replace the '38 stock, hence making the Northern Line from '38 and '72 to '59/62 and '72 stock. The experimental stock that look a cross between the 62 and 67 stock i believe was used on the Central Line from Woodford to Hailnaut via Grange Hill.
295route 1 year ago
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295route 1 year ago
@citytransportinfo
Some MkII 72 stocks were indeed used on the Northern Line. These had came from the Jubiee Line, but the MkII then went onto the Bakerloo line where they've mostly been since.
295route 1 year ago
@fatboy22222222222222
are you saying that I am "human trash"?
citytransportinfo 1 year ago
Hey great video! Why would the trains stop at warren street when it is closed?
unknownperson95 1 year ago
@unknownperson95 Because the trains on the Victoria Line (but '67 and '09 stock) are computer driven to stop at each station.
295route 1 year ago
@unknownperson95 Both the '67 stock and '09 stock are computer driven to stop and start at each station regardless of if it's opened or closed. The driver does the doors manually.
295route 1 year ago
Warren St was open today for the first weekend in ages lol
JFKFOREVER2010 1 year ago
i hate the 2009 stock because it needs air
kamil2010able 1 year ago
@kamil2010able
Hi there,
I am curious - what do you mean?
air conditioning?
If so, see my film about the new S stock for an explanation why this is not possible on the Victoria Line. (at least not with present-day technology)
Simon
citytransportinfo 1 year ago
@kamil2010able
Lol and apparently the 67 stock is much cooler than the 2009! The 2009 apparently has a design flaw that causes the air blown into the carriages to warm up.
Alstom1995 1 year ago
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@kamil2010able what? i like it. so **** **!
The25City 1 year ago
@kamil2010able why do you use obscene language on a location accessed by children?
citytransportinfo 1 year ago
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kamil2010able 1 year ago
Wow how much speed dos the new trains have?In the end of the video it looks like the train is up at max speed.It's preatty fast!
CopenhagenEast 1 year ago
@CopenhagenEast yes they do accelerate quickly - but their full power will only be used when the old trains have gone and the new signalling system is used.
citytransportinfo 1 year ago
Still haven't been on one of these.
kpmarek 1 year ago
Nice to see they're nice and nippy, unlike the sluggish Northern Line stock (baring in mind the latter are governed to run on 60% power until the new signals and tracks are fully in place).
295route 1 year ago
This is a great video but how sad that the marvellous 1967 stock is to be replaced by these monstrosities. I've been on these new trains once and they seemed to be having trouble getting the doors to close although this doesn't seem to be happening on yourr video.
voxley19 1 year ago
Do these trains have the station indicator like there's in the new trains of the São Paulo metro? They're really helpful
Thanks for reading.
Great video by the way, congratulations
lukeraloko 1 year ago
@lukeraloko Thanks, I'm pleased you found the video to be of interest.
I do not know the new São Paulo metro trains, nor the station indicators. Are there any pictures anywhere? Youtube? Wikipedia?
Simon
citytransportinfo 1 year ago
@citytransportinfo you can see the station indicators in this video: /watch?v=1Zj8YND_YLE at 0:08 :) (put youtube.com in front of it)
lukeraloko 1 year ago
The new trains look nice and sound nice too, but didn't they say these would be slightly larger? And slightly cooler? Felt just as warm and narrow to me.
falkerhard 1 year ago
@falkerhard they are larger, but only slightly. I dont have exact measurements but we are talking about mere inches... and if what someone told me is correct are too large to fit into most the 'tube' sized tunnels used by other underground lines. (Piccadilly, Northern, Central, Bakerloo - I'm not sure about Jubilee)
As for cooler, well they are supposed to have better ventilation, and as the tunnels are so warm do not have any heating...
Simon
citytransportinfo 1 year ago
@citytransportinfo They are tubestock. However they can't run on the Picadilly as the Picc has curves too tight for the 09ts.
CJ19Productions 1 year ago
@citytransportinfo
The Jubille Line may be included in that as Swiss Cottage and St John's Wood as the two UNDERGROUND stations that give away the fact that part of the Jubillee Line was the old branch of the Bakerloo Line.
295route 1 year ago
isnt there a new law now that says you cannot film people in public anymore ? i'm sure i heard it recently ...
cujo9 1 year ago
i'll miss the 67 stock.
C77stock 1 year ago
@C77stock
me too. Still miss the similarly '72 stock that was on the Northern Line (even though they're still on the Bakerloo Line).
295route 1 year ago
LOOK A BIT LIKE THE 1992 STOCK
spartan117ism 2 years ago 2
GREAT VIDEO! Thanks for sharing!
Happy Trading!
StockMarketVideo 2 years ago
i take this line everyday and i haven't seen one yet why is that?
Goodlockin 2 years ago
@Goodlockin you've not been lucky enough yet!
falkerhard 1 year ago
the trains are nice, but the voice announcements are horrible!
charliepeto 2 years ago 2
@charliepeto they sound over joyous a bit fake if you ask me.
Goodlockin 2 years ago
yh exactly. it sounds too happy
charliepeto 2 years ago
@charliepeto I agree with you there.
falkerhard 1 year ago
Yesterday (11/02/10) I was on the 2009 stock... And the journey from Finsbury Park to Seven sisters was quite smooth and fast...
I've got a Video of both stocks 1967 and 2009...
jack253 2 years ago
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AimalCool 2 years ago
My sister goes to college everyday by taking the Victoria line from Oxford Circus to Seven Sisters. She said that the new trains are not there yet!
AimalCool 2 years ago
@AimalCool only 2 trains (when i last checked!) are already in use, and they run at the same time every day. itll be a while before the old trains are got rid of
charliepeto 2 years ago
They sound really smooth!
globalcentralline 2 years ago
the whole problem with all public transport is its so cramped and uncomfortable. Then again though being in a car is even more cramped as you are wedged in behind a steering wheel and ur shoulder is tight against the edge of the interior. In someway walking or cycling is nicer. those london cabs are realy horrible to get in and out of with luggage due to the layout of the door. THey shoud have electric doors on those london cans for easy entry. transport needs to be less cramped
Lunarlaserranging 2 years ago
The 2009 stock is much faster than the 1967 stock
wangtong04 2 years ago 6
@wangtong04 true
Cazkumali 10 months ago
@wangtong04 are they? It didn't feel like that when I was in London. In fact, I felt that 1967 stock were faster than any other train on the network, but perhaps it's the acceleration...
AndreDevecserii 10 months ago
Great video
I have been to the victoria line and asked if these trains are running several times but they have not been running
benobve 2 years ago
that is one probably the newest fastest ACCELARATING train on th LU . and im not on about speed
G4M1NGK1DD 2 years ago
The seats look abit uncombfatable
but I gues its weight issues
albaniaismylife 2 years ago
@albaniaismylife
Its the physical size which limits what can be put in the train when compared to the S stock. Mind you underneath the seats are all equipments.
traction48 2 years ago
nice video u r so lucky finding a new train. ive always wanted to get a 2009 stock but i havent yet
gaelandgeorge 2 years ago
@gaelandgeorge
The 2009 stock or so they say is on nightly trial services only. If I remember correctly there are 2 services per day up and down the line since there is only 1 train down in London.
traction48 2 years ago
They have been running at in the day for a while now, but not yet in the peak hours.
There is only 1 train in service (pre-production train 2), but there are three trains of 09TS in London. Train 1 is fitted with testing equipment and can't be used in service, and train 4 (first production train to be delivered) is still testing and hasn't entered service yet.
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adal0323 2 years ago
Thanks - but I thought that until they started to (quite literally) fall apart the Central Line's 1992 stock had a max speed of 70mph!
The 3 month closure of the Central Line while the trains were partially rebuilt was a real pain, as I needed to use them to go to work and at the time had a bad leg which made walking to an alternative station much harder. The walk was through the park, as it was much shorter than following local roads.
citytransportinfo 2 years ago
How does the 2009 stock train calls does she Whistle or horn.
MultiCARTOON 2 years ago
how fast can the 2009's stock get?
lukeraloko 2 years ago
On Wikipedia, it says 80mph
AimalCool 2 years ago
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adal0323 2 years ago
Anyone can edit on Wikipedia. Yes. But when you say this kind of information, you need to add a source for proof of your edits. If there is no proof, your edits will be reverted. It says 80mph for a LONG time now...
Maybe the 2009 stock can go 80mph, but it is limited to 50mph?
AimalCool 2 years ago
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adal0323 2 years ago
They can't run faster unti all of the old trains 67TS are gone!!!! Otherwise the new train will catch up too quickly with the new one, plus meanwhile the new trains are running with the old ones they are doing exactly the same things like the old trains:-)
kate1208arm 2 years ago
It runs in the late evenings apparently. The trains are all scheduled so that they don't catch up etc...
KasHCubeD 1 year ago
Nice train. They are much faster than the 1967 stock!
wangtong04 2 years ago
Nice one mate, when I last rode the Victoria Line the old 1967 Stock was still running :)
Desiro360 2 years ago
nice and comfortable, but if you see the preserved 1938 stock on youtube you know what the real London Underground is :)
ianbillericay 2 years ago 4
tube train yes - for surface stock look at the Q38 / CP / CO / COP / R stock, which are all more or less identical visually but different electrically.
I have a *little* of these in super 8 (silent)film, maybe I should copy it to the computer and share here?
citytransportinfo 2 years ago
@ianbillericay I remember them on the Northern Line as a kid in the early 70s, and when they were finally withdrawn from the Bakerloo Line between 1982 and 1986. Also remember when four 7 car trains make a brief comeback on the Northern Line for a couple of months during the late 80s/early 90s as a frequency enhancement.
295route 1 year ago
It is so good that after all these years the 2009 stock entered service.
MegaTrainlover 2 years ago
i can't w8 2 ride this train in 2010 XD
WWERawOpeningMaker 2 years ago
Great Sound! Cool Train! Nice Design! :D
Quaso258 2 years ago
Not wishing to sound the death knell on the lovely 1938 stock there but wouldn't it be a good idea if Island line trains started to look at buying some 1967 stock trains when these are eventually replaced by the new trains depicted in this video. I.m sure the automatic train control system could be converted back to manual control without too much hassle.
metadyneman 2 years ago
@metadyneman converting the old trains to manual is already being discussed for adding to the Bakerloo line.
As for the IOW, I never quite understood why they did not buy some 1983 stock trains.
Simon
citytransportinfo 2 years ago
thank you for sharing this!
markimark03 2 years ago
i couldnt find the webpage for district line dave to get the times for these. do u know the page? 5* + Fav
Ldntrains 2 years ago
@Ldntrains See the main text for this video - I've put the link in there.
Hope this helps
Simon
citytransportinfo 2 years ago
great sound these cars make. acceleration seems peppier too.
trainluvr 2 years ago
wow, i live on the Vic line and use it for work everyday, I didnt know they have rolled this stock out now, and I work for the company.
astralwarrior8 2 years ago
during the week its mostly out in the evenings.
I saw the timetable for the train on the District Dave chat site, so knew at what time and approximate where I could expect it to be!
citytransportinfo 2 years ago
Awesome, LOVED the still picture at the beginning, but you might want to refrain from pointing the camera right at people.
SPTSuperSprinter156 2 years ago
I know, it was a shame that the lady was looking straight at me in that way - I seriously considered cutting the video for the few seconds it took her to sit down, but because of the announcement about Warren Street being closed I decided that doing this would ruin the film.
If I had of known in advance that she was going to stare staright ahead instead of looking around (which is what most people do) I would have filmed differently.
citytransportinfo 2 years ago
Lol. I tend to be overconscious of people being offended by getting filmed and maybe risk of getting attacked... so I actually point it at the floor if there is people or something... all I can say is you're brave waving a camera around on the LUL, at all...........
SPTSuperSprinter156 2 years ago
The reason for pointing the camera into the train like that was to include the door open / closing light.
I use a small digicam with video feature - when not filming it invisibly slips into a jacket pocket.
The only downside of this camera is that it only does low-fi mono sound.
Simon
citytransportinfo 2 years ago
it's good quality though.
SPTSuperSprinter156 2 years ago
Look similar inside to old stock, outside like Central line trains. Have they got air conditioning ?
oggy1953 2 years ago 2
Alas not, as there is nowehere to vent the waste heat.
When I was a young child my father took me on the Victoria Line just after it had opened, as he was curious to see a train which drives itself. I remember noticing how cold it was on the platform. Nowadays a person only has to enter a Victoria Line platform and the heat hits them - the trains are even hotter once you get on them.
citytransportinfo 2 years ago
If I remember correctly the new trains do not have heating, as apart from early mornings in the winter they will never need heating.
citytransportinfo 2 years ago
this train is AMAZING!!!!!
CoachAlex1996 2 years ago
needs some more seats, would be even better if they had the group of 4 seats
bronzeonion 2 years ago
on the 1967 stock only the driving motor cars have this style of seating.
What would have been a real improvement is the 'space train' concept which would have seen fully articulated tube trains where passengers can walk through the train and move from 'very crowded' to 'less crowded' areas.
I saw this being designed in 1999, I cannot prove this but suspect that privatisation of the Underground is the ultimate reason why that style of train is not now being used.
Simon
citytransportinfo 2 years ago
to be honest, Im realy not a fan of articualated trains, they look too european then
bronzeonion 2 years ago
it depends on how its done.Trains do not need to be fully articulated to feature full 'walk-through' capability (see the new 378 Overground trains) but articulation can be beneficial because it reduces weight. It also makes higher speed trains safer!
By elminating carriage ends an 8 carriage train can gain something like 6 -8 years / metres in extra passenger space.
In Copenhagen, Denmark, they use short articulated carriages as it allows them to be wider and provide 3 +3 seating!
citytransportinfo 2 years ago
If I was on a long distance train, and it was articulated it wouldnt feel like a comfortable private atmosphere then more like riding a comfortable tram
bronzeonion 2 years ago
great catch like these new trains
Grecra02 2 years ago 2
I saw the timetable for the train on the District Dave chat site, so knew at what time and approximate where I could expect it to be!
citytransportinfo 2 years ago