Vangelis & CS80

[johnyboytown]

Mentalist. Comparing a dx to cs is like comparing a Prius to a veyron using mpg as your reasoning.

[fender1000100]

Save yourself the headache and get a YAMAHA DX7 MARK 2. It will blow a cs80 away without the weight, unreliability and criminal expense.

[IAmAlex91]

Lol! A CS-80 on eBay Buy It Now... but £14,000!? Get real!!!

[intermediate007]

what are the keyboards on the right?

[lfatx]

there's one on gumtree thats why i checked this.... which i found via rackjam.co.uk, £6500 nuggs

[HARClX]

0:30 - You fuckin` have a lot of different families of sound :D

[grimlund]

One of the most underrated musicians on the planet earth...

I want a CS80!!

[kratjes2]

nice music!!

[LouisvilleTorn8o]

My question is, how did Vangelis, Toto, Loverboy, ELO, and other CS80 users keep it in tune like they did? Did they take it out on the road?

[videoedbynick]

@LouisvilleTorn8o - Well Vangelis is said to own at least 8 - so he could use 2 at the same time and have extras for when they needed repairs or to go on the road - which he did - but only occasional special concerts. Also it's a myth that all need tuning all the time. I've played units that never needed a tuning after they warm up a while. They had been stored and moved too. My theory is some have a problem always need tuning and it frustrates the owners and they mention it all the time

[chestertonnable]

Impresive hability !!.

[loveunderlaw]

Fucking AWESOME!!!

[megalos84]

Genius!



[dentistguba]

what do you guys think of the ME80 vst, certainly better value for money than arturia in my opinion.

[marzzz1]

The best modern version of a CS-80 would be a VAX77 controller which has polyaftertouch (google it!) with Omnisphere and Zebra2 softsynths. The Arturia CS-80V is a complete joke

[korgm3radias]

BEST SYNTH EVER BEST COMPOSER!!!!

[grauoliv]

I think the controllers make the CS 80 very! special. You can't perform like that with normal sliders or knobs.

[SahlStrickland]

you guy's talking about aftertouch is well worth my having a you-tube account. If anyone wants to ever get free synth tips send me a note. If you have tips please return the favor ;)

[el9ctronic]

amazing

[Thismeaningtoitall]

10, 000 fucking dollars for this amazing synth!!!

[whisperingvenus]

holy bejesus!!

[plistefano]

quiero uno de esos!!!!

[coastaladvent]

this is a cs 60

[catchreboot]

in this video Vangelis has certainly a special midi kit (midi out)...not like the midi in kit that kenton sell .

Kenton did a kit with CRAPTED explains , very expensive and really not usefull because there is no aftertouch .....a cs80 with no aftertouch !!!

let me laught ..

so Vangelis with a cs AND other synths in same time to get that sound but with the same keyboard .

[darkoon2008]

Damn!!!! I like his keyboard and the sound on it,If I found lie his keyboard I'll buy It right know,Vangelis Is my type of electronic music.

[drchepa]

i always tought that BEAUBORG was a disc of HOW TO DEVELOPE THE YAMAHA CS 80

[arjunkaul]

What a Godly device

[VenjaMusic]

Beautyful sounding instrument, very expressive.

[sephardimm]

legendär!

[djomercohen]

sounds amazing for that time...

[8bitDynastie]

Not only for THAT time!!!!

[MrAirRobot]

Awesome! I still laugh when I think how similar he sounds to Steve Coogan when he is Tony Ferrino.

Love his dark key changes and this guy has always been great at film scores.

[oxygene65]

Polyphonic aftertouch.. nice !! Wish I was loaded so I could lay my hands on a CS80.

[TheModCon]

@oxygene65 Me too, I had to settle with a CS10, great, but a CS80 is really on a complete different level.

[michael72401]

@TheModCon Yeah my first synth was a CS10. I felt like Rick Wakeman when i got it - although it just was not a minimoog. I then got a CS30L and then a CS60.

Now i really WAS Rick Wakeman lol

[def0rm0]

..just him hitting that first note i get chills

[netwalker72]

No words. THE Master.

[djmike303]

Don't forget to note the vocal ensemble sound made by the roland vp330 vocoder plus synth on his right hand , not in the video because too much on the left side !!! vp330 the ultimate best synth in the world with the cs80 and the linn 9000 that make the percussions sounds in live .

[ISDP1337]

Gotta love Vangelis...

Epic Win.

[8462995]

His a Amazing.... even if his playing around his already producing a nice riff there :D

[raffjones]

Nice video of the master in action! I just spent a day with one of these synths in the studio and its absolutely stunning.

[marcusunlimited]

Have they ever topped the CS-80? I mean how cool is shaking the keyboard to get vibrato. I've heard to that in winter the beastly keyboard would heat up your house with its ambient temperature.

[gavincurtis]

Install a fan and all corners of the room become warm... with beautiful music.

[Shaitan00]

That shaking of the keyboard is called aftertouch.

[marcusunlimited]

@Shaitan00 NO NO NO its not. Aftertouch is entirely different, after touch is caused by a pressure sensor not a vibrational sensor. If the CS-80 is actually affected by tremolo from the players hands it is not aftertouch. However if vangelis is "shaking" his hands for looks, then it is aftertouch. :)

[Booger6995]

@marcusunlimited Sorry but it is aftertouch. To get that varying downward pressure you push down and move your finger from side to side. This has the effect of varying the actual pressure you are exerting on the key. Most people just do not have the dexterity to be able to vary the pressure in an up/down motion. Hope that helps. Wish I had a CS80 but unfortunately am not independently wealthy. Find a KB with AT and try it. It's damn hard to do other than the way Vangelis is doing it.

[sabamacx]

@marcusunlimited It's called aftertouch.

[eddievhfan1984]

@marcusunlimited Yeah, it was a beast. And while I think side-to-side vibrato was featured on the Yamaha GX-1 and the Electone organs that came after it, it's more he just used aftertouch (pressing down on the keys harder after the first strike) to get it, and the side-to-side motion is reflexive.

[DJGahann]

@marcusunlimited better yet, the CS80 would be devilishly out of tune during summer :)

[videoedbynick]

@marcusunlimited There are Yamaha organs and some other vintage keys that have side to side keybed movement for vibrato. The CS-80 is just extremely pressure sensitive on an individual key basis. I'm sure his technique makes it easier to get a better easier change in pressure than a more obvious more and less pressure with a single finger technique.

[urizen1]

brookyyyn ZUH!

wat.

[shaunmuffinman]

wow cool! now i know how he created the score to Blade Runner and his other works

[HammondB200]

haha, he really just told a load of bullcrap xD. awsome player, nobody will ever be as innovative as him

[lbquota]

Yeah, but with a plugin you can't change values moving sliders and knobs as he does, nothing's gonna beat the real thing...long live HARDWARE!

And Vangelis is a real MASTER-MONSTER!!! :-))

[memosandro]

of course you can, midi controllers are getting better

[butheadVSbevus]

Yeah, but nobody is gonna get cs-80 or anything like what Vangelis had. He is the master wish Yamaha would take the lead of Prophets and moog and do rerelease a quality retrosounding CS-80.

[culokristof]

Pnau's doing work with a CS-80. They're pretty good.

[Emyrsaurus]

nooo

[odinmp5]

@lbquota I OWN THE PLUGIN and it sucks!!! it does not come even close.

[junkification]

Ένα από τα καλύτερα κομμάτια από Vanglis, μεγάλη μουσική! Σας παρακαλούμε να μας στείλετε κάποια πιο σπάνια βίντεο αυτού του είδους, V είναι πλοίαρχος όλων των ηλεκτρονική μουσική! Έτσι σκατά σας!

[flicker66]

There was one on sale used in London recently for £3700. CS80s have to be one of the classiest - and heaviest - synths ever made!

[Apathesis0]

This is why he poops on JMJ.

Vangelis and Tangerine Dream are the best.

[metabog]

Wow. Vangelis has huge hands.

[ADVIZR]

Watching 70s and 80s vids is like peering into the future, ironically enough. It's amazing how the technology, quality, and capability of a lot of synths decades ago is superior to a lot of stuff today. I mean, I realize one can get great stuff if a fortune is spent but why the heck aren't keyboards getting bigger, better, AND cheaper (like computers)?

[scott93257]

WOW...Vangelis is freaking cool.. And yes A CS80 going for 15k pounds...that's unreal.. 15k pounds = about 30k USD

[vokshumana]

It is good to transform sound in real time, but not that good to combine many different synth sounds in one song - seldom Vangelis` flaw.

[UncleFeedle]

Vangelis was drawn to the CS80 primarily for its expressive capabilities. You'll never see him just select a patch and play a song with it, as 90% of modern keyboardists do - he's always tweaking controls with the other hand in realtime, and making that part of the performance. He really PLAYS it, putting feeling and expression into music much as a violinist would.

[scott93257]

indeed a true synthesist. I love the analog synths.. tweaking a sound in realtime while playing is totally a wonderful thing.. :)

[urizen1]

@UncleFeedle its not so much modern keyboardists fault, as manufacturers. They don't make instruments for musicians any more, they make them for bedroom producers. Hence, no aftertouch, no weighted keys, no pedals, no ribbon controllers, no express-ability .. bedroom producers don't ask for any of that, and manufacturers are happy to ignore keyboardists in favor of a bigger and less demanding market.

[gomesbascoy]

oh yes yES!

[Meteotrance]

the Sampler keyboard in the front is probably the emulator 2 from EMU use by new order and depeche mode and other electronic artist but it's not the first Sampler of the world the first digital sampler is the Fairlight used by Peter Gabriel and also Queen and JM Jarre, there another Sampler using for the Movie Akira and the music of Franck Zappa is the Synclavier. those CS-80 from Yamaha is just awesome we cannot simulate this on software it's not good enough for the lfo, attack and decay stuff.

[lehautacam]

amazing

[CosmicD]

that's so typical!. Either it's by language or by genious (i guess it's the 2) that he describes everything in an abstract way, not really willing or able to comunicate it but iniside there's all these exact knowledge going on about how to create synthesis

[armalyte]

cs80's now go for 15k pounds fully restored. Unreal isnt it?

[1O74]

so many people have bought these things recently its ridiculous... guess the difference is he knows how to use it..

[o76o]

I love that sound at 0:53

The man's a Genius.

[hmkim2112]

The CS-80 is a monster synth and Vangelis certainly mastered it. Eddie Jobson is another one that mastered the beast. U.K.'s first album is filled with unbelievable tones from the CS-80.

[Rikk303]

Nice insight as to how you do things Vangelis...there's a guy who's in love with what he does. Got a coupla albums of yours and they are a real event. Thank you

[ktownwreck]

00:53-00:55 I gotta figure out how to get that sound!!!

[netwalker72]

Because this man know how to make speak this machines. It´s a natural born genius.

[Gazdatronik]

VP-330 choir sound.

[retrosound72]

Roland VP330 Vocoder Plus

[joncosm]

Vangelis is the man, buddies !!!!!!

[musicalminded]

Look at him tinker! Wold love to have a beer with the guy and hit his studio.

[usulkane]

The low note he hits @ 0:31 is identical to one he hits in the main theme at the beginning of bladerunner. Then at 0:42 he actually plays the very beginning of the same bladerunner theme!!!! holy crap- one of the best soundtracks ever... never thought i'd actually get to see him do that. Thanks!

[goldengab]

I have it! Of course on my Mac! And it sounds amazing!

[RediForKing]

I'm sorry goldengab but analog hell is totally right.

[slammah2012]

The plugin is quite close if you use a controller with polyaftertouch...

I have both ...side by side...

The CS80V is hauntingly close....if you cut past all the extra delay crap...

[polysmart]

I like the individual voice detuning cs80v, not too many other virtual synths have such feature.

[neolojism]

I believe you here. What most people don't realise is it's not just the synth engine, it's also the interface that matters; speaking of which, I'm not into the arturia version for one particular reason: because of the tiny knobs. They should ditch the "vintage" interface for something more usable, and give more value to an otherwise decent sound engine.

[slammah2012]

Well, the knob/slider sise on the CS80V shouldnt have an effect on the interface.

The Reason I say this is, a mouse is not an acceptable interface for controlling a synth while you play...It demands alot of time compared to fixed sliders and hardware controls(even Touch screens allow only one knob at a time to move)

What you should check is click "ctrl" on your qwerty kbd and this allows you to attach real knobs,controls and sliders to most of the available synth parameters on Arturias synth.

[MrCoolManTim]

@analoghell But what if he doesn't want a 100kg monster which constantly detunes? I mean it's convient to say the plugin sucks but it's so practical. It does lose all the charm and depth of the real thing but realistically I will never own or play one.

[foljs]

@analoghell Reaaaaly? Because I'm certain you couldn't discern between them in a blind A/B test.

[urizen1]

@foljs if you can create the blade runner blues horn on the arturia version, please let me know how. Particularly, the attack portion. The sustain it can get close to, but ive given up trying to get the attack, i dont think the synth can do it.

[p0531d0n]

@goldengab You don't get the keyboard with a plugin, playing on any other controller will not sound the same unfortunately. The real thing still rocks.

[urizen1]

@goldengab the plug in cant even replicate the classic cs80 horn sound faithfully. It gets *close* but no better than many other synths. I use the plug in a lot, it has character, but that thing cannot do a real cs80.

(Plus the presets suck)

[vivaelrock34]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Tegenaria]

Vangelis is a genius, and what a machine. All that sound on one synth! must, win, lottery!

[drchepa]

in those years this machine was the last of the last!...

[Andronicus2007]

I played with a CS60 once, the single OSC version of CS80. I must say I wasnt that impressed. I'm not so sure if the CS80 is so great, or if it is the man behind it.

[slammah2012]

Your not sure but I am ....

It is the best synth around.....

I am on my second CS80....

a CS60 doesn't have the control an 80 does.

[Synthomania]

He is my true idol, my god i love vangelis.. i want that cs80!

[Biochips1]

He's one of my idols as well.

[lens2310]

Choralsound like the Korg M1 in the old CS 80 ?

[tuvalu2]

It's amazingly creative

[kfrausto]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Nothing touches the CS-80. NOTHING.

[sausagenmuff]

gotta love that analog bliss...

[drchepa]

he used the emulator for the first time in soil festivities 1.984 i guess this interview is from 1.977 the yamaha cs 80 was developed first time in SPIRAL album 1.977.

[Davidrdw]

Anybody know on what synthesizer he play at 48s ? (Synth Strings Sound)I don't think that a Yamaha CS80

[ratsouffle]

It is. What makes you think it isn't?

[Gazdatronik]

that is the string section of the roland VP-330, followed by the untouchable choir sound of the same device

[kfrausto]

Thanks for the info...I didn't know that. Amazing sounding analog choir.

[Gazdatronik]

I can attest as I have heard it in real life and nothing comes close.

[retrosound72]

VP330 strings !

[nomansid81]

God Bless Vangelis!

[baward]

At one time, Vangelis had four CS-80's! The reverberation effect he used was the Lexicon 224 or 224X digital reverb.

[michieldpiano]

Does anybody know on what instrument he plays the percussion sounds?

[baward]

Er, percussion instruments! :-)

[mogoduc]

Emulator II i guess.

[alemdqarg]

hola saludos a vangelis que es un capo!!!

[drchepa]

he used for the first time in the album SPIRAL 1977, then in BEAUBORG CHINA SEE YOU LATER CHARIOTS, and beautifully in BLADE RUNNER i don'nt know how it works but sounds like angels....

[Jrayk1]

That first sound was beautiful.

[pierstheoneandonly]

Side-to-side sensitivity - now that would be an innovation! Nope, it's classical piano technique: the 'follow-through,' as taught by piano teachers the world over.

[Gazdatronik]

The yamaha YC-30 organ had side to side key aftertouch, if I remember right, and that was 30 years ago, so find one and it'll be all yours!

[JobsGetDone]

I have a YC30, so maybe you could tell me what that means.

[JobsGetDone]

oh snap i figured it out thats so cool

[marksmartus]

To see an instrument with side-to-side sensitivity, search on YouTube for "Continuum Fingerboard".

[kfrausto]

What effect? He's only using a reverb...probably a Lexicon.

[RockyMM]

As someone already have said, the effect is probably external.

But CS80 is pretty great.

[JamesBrommage]

At last, I've seen Vangelis performing on the unsurpassed Yamaha CS80. I was overjoyed last year to find websites featuring photo's of Vangelis and his synths at Nemo Studios, but to watch this is fantastic!! Thanks!!

[BBMix]

The CS80 was a legendary keyboard from Yamaha.

[Geko2006]

Yamaha synths have a excelent quality in their effects!!

[cinematronic]

No synths had built-in effects back in the day of the CS-80. The reverb you're hearing is external, probably Lexicon. Most onboard effects in synths are not very good, even today, compared to top outboard devices.

[terrasidius]

excellent!

[mikefries80]

Did the keys have side to side sensitivity? I've never seen anything like that! This looks like an incredible synth!

[motus]

aftertouch .. a lot of synths have aftertouch, some have polyphonic aftertouch as well

[metabog]

cool!

[synthyaro]

Vangelis can bring the feeling.

[spacetherapysession]

Kudos to you for posting this!

[flancito242]

just fckn great

[morsuy]

very nice video!!!

[saanzacs]

Interesting stuff!!!

[Morphindel]

Looks like he is wearing orange gloves.

[Gazdatronik]

Vangelis is a bright orange in real life.

[morticia13]

the best master of all times!

[phlizmo]

sounds like blade runner!

[vcmatx]

Fantastic! It is VERY rare to see Vangelis in candid moments like that... Thank you for sharing this...

[oxygene65]

The master of the CS80. If only I could afford £5000 plus to buy one.

[AriLuggaz]

awesome! grate :P

[ph1ltr]

The CS80 is my fvourite synth ever. It's great to see the master of this awesome keyboard in action. Thanks for sharing!

[KRAFTWERK2K1]

This is sooo amazing. The making of "creating the vangelis sound". I love it! Thank you so much for sharing this!!