This whole gun registry thing is bullshit. The whole issue was around a relatively new registry that the Liberals said would cost $1 million and instead cost $2 billion. It was created solely to keep a record of guns that were not in the other registry, which already tracks all handguns and all rifles since the 1970s. This new registry was just for the rifles that were sold before the 1970s. Nobody robs a bank with a 40 year old bolt action rifle. What a waste of time and money.
How many gun control activists know that you DO NOT need to register or insure a vehicle if it is going to be used ONLY on private property? The rules/laws that gun control nuts use to compare cars to guns are TOTALLY invalid for about 2 dozen reason. This one being the most important. You DON'T need to register a vehicle unless you use it on PUBLIC PROPERTY!!!!
The popular sound bite is "Criminals don't register guns" as if those who supported the registry didn't know that. It's not about tracking down criminals it about making it more difficult for them to buy guns than for a teenager to buy beer. Without the registry you don't need a firearms permit, just know someone who does. With the registry a person is responsible for the guns they buy.
It is not a quick fix.
As for the costs, harper's G20 3 day party cost tax payers 1-2 billion dollars.
@defiantnoise BULL. The registry does NOTHING to make it harder for criminals to buy guns. That comes from stricter import laws and border patrols. And besides that was NEVER the intent of the registry. Do not create a red herring here. The intent was so that cops would know what guns were in a house when they approach it. But that is a farce since no cop in their right mind would ASSUME the registry is giving them correct info. You appraoch a house with the worst case scenario in mind.
@defiantnoise .....think about it. If the registry says that someone own a .22 snubnose, do you appraoch the house with less caution than if they had a 7mm Remington magnum rifle? NEVER. You assume the worst (in other words you assume the registry might be wrong). That way you always approach the situation in the safest manner possible. Therefore saying cops rely on it is a total face. No cop is ever going to assume the registry is correct and that the home owner is being honest.
@defiantnoise With the registry, the blame for stolen guns is shifted from the person that stole them to the homeowner. That's the fucking very definition of insanity. Only a God damn Liberal nut job would think there's anything logical about that. STOP THE CRIMINALS FROM STEALING THEM in the first place!!! You wouldn't accept the blame if someone stole your car would you? Think about that. You know damn well you'd be livid if the government blamed you for the theft of your car.
@defiantnoise How is that different then with the registry. You register it to who ever has the licence if on the off chance you are buying it through more legal channels. Much more common and easy is to just steal them or smuggle them.
@1h34rtmus1c Well I have to say that you'd probably be better off if your governement wasn't wasting so much money on it's military. There's a war at home and it's being fought for your constitutional rights. More cops on the streets won't hurt anything if politicians stop pissing tax money away on BS wars. I'm no hippie, but the U.S is as bad as Canada when it comes to dickfuck politicians wasting your tax dollars. I am all for self protection but more cops protecting you is not bad.
@1h34rtmus1c Yeah. The problem with the morons that push gun control is that they put the ox before the cart. Their logic is: we need registration for when people steal your guns and use them in crimes". WTF is that logic about? Try STOPPING THE CRIMINALS FROM STEALING FROM ME YOU HIPPIES ASSHOLES. Try giving me the right to defend my house/property and family. Hire more cops to patrol the streets so they are safer. STOP THREATENING MY RIGHTS with innefective laws that punish law abiders
@1h34rtmus1c You missed the point. I am VERY pro gun ownership. In fact I don't believe in gun control at all. What I was saying is that the people who say "we register cars, so we should register guns" are TOTALLY full of shit. If you kill someone in a drunk driving accident you can get your licence back after a few years. Would those same gun control assholes want to give someone their guns back a few years after they use one to commit murder? Not likely, so their point is BULLSHIT.
Get rid of phony 'Laws' by making everyone aware of the for-profit corporations that masquerade as our governments.
* legitimate government isn't supposed to 'make a profit' but rather protect and maintain a system in which THE PEOPLE can do business and prosper *
All people need to be aware of the 'word tricks' and deceit in so-called 'contracting' that Gov. Inc. uses as excuse to pillage and bully the populace.
Corporate 'Government' has NO AUTHORITY to 'govern' anyone who says NO THANKS!
one prob in this argument is ur dad violated the law. I'm not agianst his cause I'm just making the point that if someone does violate the law and are set "free" then the constitution should apply to them as well instead of how it is now that there's a seperate set of laws that apply to them forever and not others who either never violated law or never got caught!
Reminds me why New York got in trouble with the FBI... New York was confiscating weapons on flights that got diverted to their state... Well thats illegal also detaining the owners and making them pay a fine.... They did this to a FBI agent confiscated his gun and detained him... FBI got angry and did some digging. :D
You go girl! That is what we need in this country, your a great role model to other young people, fight for what you believe in, She makes me proud to be a Canadian
your all amped up on one law and reading to much into it! have we forgotten that in ontario it is our right to bare arms???? have we lost this!!! your allowed to walk down town toronto with your double barrel and ammo in your pocket decked out in camo. just don't know how far you'll get without some cop stopping you asking you questions and it's all how you answer those questions if you sound pissed off then he might have the right to arrest you or detain you to fighure out why you have ur gun
I agree that the Guns Registry should be abolished and replaced with a law to prohibit anyone who is not in law enforcement or the armed forces from handling a gun as the ownership should only belong to the government agency.
It should be illegal for anyone to own a gun period end of story, case closed.
@UDOG01 "...ownership should only belong to the government agency. It should be illegal for anyone to own a gun period"
People like evil murderous dictators and violent criminals agree with you completely. Enjoy the company you keep. While you're at it, you should lobby for everyone to be locked in individual prison cells. You know. For their own safety.
@UDOG01 I hope your building a steel cage to live in. Will you also ban knives, ropes, shovels, baseball bats, and politicians..
Would you like to tell that story to a woman who was raped? Tell her she has no right to protect herself. How about senseless deaths caused by drunk driving, will you ban cars or alchool ??
Maybe we should ban people like you instead, or leave you in your steel cage
i think this chick is so angry because she has such small tits. im guessing she is like a 30a. sad... it makes sense though, since guys with small dicks love guns
@kakashi76767 Are you intimidated by this smart girl. I'll bet she is closer to a 34 A - but while you may think her breast size is a negative - arguably it is the opposite for others -
At least it is no worse an issue than your obvious gun ownership
@UDOG01 Yes she is a smart girl, I really don't care about her bra size, her page says she is 19, not that it matters. Under 35 is too young for me. Medically, if piggletwigglet were a pedophile, he would not be interested in her since she is post pubescent. Ephebophile is the word you are looking for. What is your issue against law abiding gun ownership? Kind of extreme even in the UK. You would love Jamaica. Wait, they make the US look like Japan and Canada.
@kakashi76767 And what do guys who make fun of little girls have? A strong hate for their mother, no girlfriend and a rape charge on their record? Retard.
@SCROGY look, she has small tits. that fact makes me neither a mother hater, nor single, nor a rapist, nor a retard. you were wrong 4 times in one comment. and she still has small tits. nothing will change that. women with small tits are not to be trusted. scientific studies have proved this. google it. have a nice day! :)
do you have any fucking friends? no bitch!!!! i would fuck you in bed and it be hotter if you told me the lesson there.... fuck me, say what? haha bitch!
@piggletwigglet - you better be 16 or under to make these comments about Katie - otherwise gun registry is not an issue for you to fear - but the pedophile registry may have your name soon
Some good points there. I like to see young people taking any kind of stand. Good for you. The counter argument is that we need a gun registry because police need an inventory of guns to help them to confiscate them from people who are insane (insanity can develop in people), suicidal or those who are found to be violent. In such cases, police need to know how many guns to seize. If an insane person has five guns, but the police only find four, they know to keep looking.
Give it up with the Canadian BS. We all know it is only going to get worse there. Just move on down to the US. No permits to buy, no permits to carry. No need to register, or even disclose you are carrying to law enforcement.
Liberals going AGAINST criminals? wow now thats just weird and not true. We should get a poll of every major city's beat cops and ask them if the registry is usefull to them at all. Then we should push for a patition to scrap the registry endorced solely by Law Enforcment. I say wear an empty pistol holster allday everyday to show people that regardless if theres a weapon in it or not you are NOT A CRIMINAL.
My grandfather was killed by a shotgun placed against a fencepost (loaded) by his drunk buddy during a moose hunt. I ask, did the gun registration save his life? The man who killed him was never prosecuted. I am a target shooter and hunter. If you want to save lives, get rid of the gun registry. Put the money towards stopping criminals. Are criminals really going to register their firearms? No.
We spend all this money for the registry because there are fear mongers in parliament. They see a gun and cringe.Oh my ,Oh my.They act like old ladies that stay in their home and fear everything thats out there. Wake up people.This whole thing is about money and the people who fight the most get payed. Like that Wendy Cucumber chick. Did anyone hear how she calls a .223 a duck gun? What a lame excuse for a rep. She fights for a paycheck as well for her her future paycheck. Wake up people
A driver's license is for driving on public (i.e. the government OWNS it) roads. You can drive all you want on your property (like up and down your driveway) without one. This is the way it should be with guns: permits to carry in public spaces. Private businesses and individuals have the RIGHT to deny you access to their property if you have in your possession a firearm!
Decent video there on a point by point basis but it would help to cite your sources in your sidebar for easy access. Have a link to the news article your reading from and the Statistics Canada site if you use any statistics.
It's about time The Liberal Criminals were reprimanded for this Gun Registry Fiasco. The only thing achieved by this whole "escapade" is the Theft of Billions of dollars of taxpayer money, by liberal contractors and sub-contractors. The few data-entry clerks that were hired at minimum wage were the only beneficiaries of this Retarded attempt at social engineering, all for political rhetoric.
Laws that just Criminalized Law-Abiding citizens with ridicules Nit-Picking Laws, designed to create trouble for legal gun owners. Not just to register, but also retroactively change specification-alterations to pre-existing guns, in order to Criminalize Citizens and give the Police technical justifications to harass, fine and imprison people they do not like, even though these people are Law Abiding Citizens.
In Quebec it has gotten to the point where Police are constantly monitoring, intimidating, threatening, with the use of "neighbor-hood watch" people. Informing neighbors about gun owners and then using them. This is especially true of "non-french" gun owners. Is is Unwritten Quebec Government Policy to use the Provincial Security Services to disarm non-french citizens. All brought to you from the Liberal Party.
why shouldn't gun owners be forced to pay for the damage they cause to society? I say, tax bullets and bullet making supplies like they tax ciggaretts. The EPA should ban the use of lead in bullets. Only rubber bullets should be allowed.
Lets agree on a common truth, that a-hole gun owners get big money for buying guns and re-selling them annonomously on the streets. We should change the law that anyone who buys a gun buys the civil liability for it for life unless they report the sale to the State. If its used in a crime, and you didnt register that you dont own it, you have to pay.
Let's not. We already have laws on the book that are designed to prevent this. Do you think another law will help? Gun registration has never and will never deter crime. Historically, registration has always been the precursor to confiscation.
Because people are not unlicensed buying cars only to resell in the inner city where they are used to commit crimes. You make an excellent point why we need stricter gun registration laws, If you don't object to your car being registered, it seems to me you won't object to your gun being registered. Seems like selective enforcement to me.
If you forget to renew your registration for your car are you asked to forfeit your car to the police for destruction? Do you expect the police to search your house to find the car. Do you need to undergo a background check to get a drivers license, and have your wife sign your application if you're married. You need two references who will be called by the RCMP. It is in no way like registering a car, and there is a big difference between having a firearms license and firearms registration.
If you forget to renew your car's registration, it gets impounded. Police dont have to search my house for my car because there is no loophole on registration. Nobody stops you to see if you are drunk off your ass while you are operating your gun. If somebody borrows your car to commit a crime, the police show up on your doorstep. Most Americans think of Canada as just the 51st state.
It gets impounded if you drive it illegally, not if you let your registration lapse. Police don't have to look for your car because your driving your mothers and living in her basement. What Loophole??? Are you condoning drunk driving? Most Canadians think Americans like YOU are assholes.
You ARE driving it illegally if you let the registration lapse. Most Americans don't think about Canadians like you, or any other kind, because you are otherwise insignificant, petty little people.
If you knew how to read, that is exactly what I said if you DRIVE it. You don't have the cops coming to your house to seize your car when your registration expires. I see that you are anti Canadian. If we are so petty why do you even bother to get involved in our politics?.....Never mind, I just checked your profile, I see from all the negative comments that you are clearly a TROLL looking to stir up trouble. Forgive me carry on your TROLLINESS
In 1996, the Violence Policy Center (VPC) released an article titled: Gun Shows in America: Tupperware® Parties for Criminals.The study detailed how gun shows have become a readily available source of weapons and ammunition for a wide variety of criminals—including street gangs, white supremacists, would-be presidential assassins, and domestic terrorists.
I'm not sure what planet you live on but around here the criminals either steal their guns or buy them from a crack head (who stole it) for like 50 bucks
Yes, they "steal" them from gun owners who don't do enough to make sure they are secure. If you had lifetime liability for anything that happened to a gun that was not reported stolen, you'd keep the gun locked up.I'm tired of you hilljacks buying and selling guns without any oversight. You claim your afraid of the government when the truth is you make too much damn money selling them to the criminals so the rest of us are too afraid to ban them. Tax ammo and ammo supplies like the next tobacco.
So a criminal commits a crime and somehow its MY fault? If youre tried of us hilljacks Im really going to piss in your wheaties. Every single weapon I own was purchased used in a face to face PRIVATE sale. (think gunshow loophole) Meaning, I have never had to submit to an NCIS check and as far as the government is concerned every weapon I own (none of them have a legitimate sporting purpose BTW) fell off the face of the earth when I bought them.
Yeah, no shit. If you need to register your car, you should have to register your gun. and if 10 of your guns get "stolen" well then that's your problem. Why should it be my problem that you are a stupid ass? Dont let your guns get stolen.
And banning weapons isn't your issue. why don't you try coming to pick them up?
Oh wait, mine don't exist you can't pick them up. so why don't you co tell the people who have purchased over 1 Million bnew fire arms and 1 BILLION rounds of ammuntion since the november elections that you want THEIR guns. let me know how that works out for you.
There aint nothin in the constitution says we cant tax your gun. Aint nothin says we cant regulate your gun. Aint nothin says we cant put you in jail for 50 years for breaking the law. Aint nothin says we cant hold you responsible for your gun. Its the future. You a-holes will pay ANYTHING to have your guns. We can tax it 1000% and you'll pay. You can't not have your guns. That makes for good revenue. You cant quit no matter how hard we squeeze you.
We may not quit but we can certainly shoot. How do you intend to tax my guns? All of which are locked up unless in use BTW Remember, they dont exist, or if they do they belong to someone 2 or 3 sales and a state or two ago. Theres nothing linking my guns to me you dont really think Im the only one do you? and federal law specifically forbids firearms registration. As for regulating my guns you might want to Google AWB 94 and ask the folks that voted for it how that worked out for them
Stupid ass, what are you going to shoot? My guess would be bullets. What did I say we should tax? Bullets and bullet making supplies. Unlike guns, ammo has a finite life. You either shoot it off or it goes stale. Then, when you go to buy more, a box will cost you a hundred bucks. As for your guns, keep them locked up in your house and you are ok by me. Just dont try to sell them or buy any more the tax man is gonna get ya. stupid ass.
When I was in the Army we routinely trained W/ ammunition that was thirty years old. Apparently ammunition doesn't go quite as stale as you think. You seem kinda pissy Bill is there a reason? I mean all that hate has got to be eating you up inside. Is there anything I can do to help? Do you hate guns because you see them as an extension of your penis and they bring up latent homosexuality issues? Do men W/ guns scare you do they remind you of the abuse you suffered at the hands of your father
Ok. You are a felon, so you can't legally buy a gun. So you go to a gun show, where a casual seller sells you an overpriced gun in exchange for not doing a background check. What are you, a freaking moron? Where do you think the criminals get their guns you idiot.
pickledbill: "-hole gun owners get big money for buying guns and re-selling them annonomously on the streets."
When I buy a gun in a gun store it is registered to me. If I sell it on the street it will still be registered to me, and if it is ever used in a crime the ballistics will be traced back to me even if I was nowhere near the crime scene. People aren't selling their guns on the street man get a friggin clue.
OK..this young lady's trying to make a point...if you look past her being so young and a little inarticulate,she's making a point. Gun registry doesn't work. She's merely trying to get he word out,as best as she can. Insulting comments and bashing each other doesn't help. The issue is gun control...let's stop being so nasty and agree on a common truth-gun control does not work.
You are a fucking MORON. How about this.Some selections from "Mein Kampf" by Adolf Hitler:
"The best political weapon is the weapon of terror. Cruelty commands respect. Men may hate us. But, we don't ask for their love; only for their fear."
This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
You sound like someone in the military or law enforcement. do you also believe in martial law? Should people call on you when they are in danger? I can't say that I'm sad you're gone. BTW registration leads to CONFISCATION. Check out the history books.
You Limeys don't understand English anymore? I'll look at my gun magazines, you go look after your flower garden.... I know you have one. And it's time for you to move out of your Mothers house.
I keep seeing "Why is a gun registry a bad idea?" Because only people who actually obey the law will register their firearms. Criminals are criminals for a reason. Passing more gun laws only ensures that criminals (You know, those recidivistic maggots who routinely break the law) will always have helpless, unarmed victims. Liberals say "You don't need a gun, call a cop." I've never tried to dial 911 after I've been robbed a murdered, but I don't think I'd have much luck with it.
The cacp are the ones who support the registry. Most front line cops don't. Rates of gun ownership DO NOT affect crime rates. Look at England and Switzerland.
So it's my fault if someone steals my guns? I guess it's a woman fault for being raped for showing cleavage too.
You even say gun control doesn't affect crime rates. Why have it then? Why do you fear your fellow citizens being armed?
Do you blame cars when drunks kill people on the road?
Oh yeah, about the 110lb woman, maybe she would be attacked by surprise, I don't know. At least if she was allowed to carry a gun she would have a chance to defend herself.
"gun control is the theory that a woman found raped and strangled with her own pantyhose is somehow morally superior to the same woman explaining to the police how her attacker received those fatal bullet wounds".
Explain to me, why do cops have guns? No bullshit, just answer the question.
Fact- the most violent cities in the US have the strictest gun control.
Fact- the registry cost 2 billion dollars, costing 1000 times or 100 000% more than anticipated. There are approx 16.5 million guns in Canada. 7 million are registered. The registry is so full of holes, it is inadmissable in court.
Fact: wendy cukier and the coalition for gun control recieved over 300 000$ a year from the liberal govts.
want more? Are you just going say I'm silly again? Debate like an adult, not a kid.
Fact: in the 1990s , 500 000 .25 and .32 caliber pistols and other guns were confiscated by our government after order in council prohibition orders were passed. No compensation was paid to the legal owners.
Fact: in every US state that has enacted concealed carry laws, allowing citizens to carry guns, crime has dropped. Period.
Fact: only about 3-6% of all recovered handguns were registered to law abiding gun owners.
Who care about confiscation? Hire a lawyer if you don't like the way the law works.
Fact: most gun crimes occur involving people who own guns: burglars stealing guns and shooting their owners, children shooting other children, and so on. Fact: Crime has dropped all round and gun ownership has nothing to do with it.
What is 6% (if we believe your "fact") of a 223 million firearms (estimated to exist in the US)? Why, that's about 14 million. Doesn't look like a small number to me.
Ok it's obvious your only counter is "silly" or "YOU know". Here's some facts:
The CACP (Canadian association of the chiefs of police) support the registry. They are a lobby group, who has accepted large donations from CGI, the computer company that designed the gun registry. Out of the 9400 "hits" on the gun registry per day, only 19 were for registration checks.
You, like your friends here, continually change the issue.
But, that's to be expected, because not one of you can actually substantiate just why registering a gun is such a bad thing.
Who cares about CACP? Fact is, cops don't like guns on the street, period. They know that fewer guns = less crime. Period.
And this always amuses me, that people who want to own weapons presumably for reasons of "law and order" find that their largest antagonists are.....police!! Speaks volumes!!
Calvin- none of my arguments are false. So unarmed people are freer? Pass the crack pipe!
So a 110 lb woman should be unarmed against her 250lb male attacker because you feel she is compensating for a small dick? WTF?
Why do cops have guns? To protect human life. Period. Why aren't trained civilians allowed the same right?
Is a police officers life worth more than mine or yours? Brinks drivers can carry guns. Are their lives worth more than ours? Is their cargo worth more than your mothers
Your first sentence about crack pipes baffles me; it makes no sense.
Next, your implied argument that a 110lb woman is safer with a gun is laughable. Tell me something: she gets attacked by surprise, in some fashion. What's she gonna do? "Oh excuse me a minute while I take out my gun". Yeah, sure.
As for cops: they are ALL for the registry. Why? You know why.
You know too that most gun violence occurs when law-abiding citizens possess guns.
Calvintoronto, can I come to your house and decide what I don't think you should be able to have, and then have the police come and take it away, zero compensation paid of course.
Oh yeah, don't try hiding or resisting, because we will throw your ass in jail. If it saves just one life and all...........
Your position is misleading and you know it. A gun is not just any household object, and you know it. The Canadian gun registry is just that: a registry. If you don't register, you forfeit the privilege of owning a deadly weapon. The same as any other thing: if you don't register your car, if you don't have a license, and on and on.
No one is taking anyone's weapon away, and you know it. You can offer misleading arguments until the cows come home. None of them is accurate, and you know it.
Calvintoronto- um no. I do not need a permit to OWN a car. I don't need a licence. I don't need to register it either. Only to drive it on public roads. There is a HUGE difference. guns are MUCH more heavily regulated than cars, and MANY times more people are killed by cars every year.
A gun IS property. My guns are MINE. I guess you have no problem with the state arbitrarily prohibiting and confiscating people's legally owned property with zero compensation as done with many handguns?
When you purchase a car, it is registered. Not too much different from registering a gun. Then, you need a license to drive it on a road. Sort of like being registered to drive, don't you think?
The function of a car is NOT to kill, like the function of any machine: plane, tractor, bike. But, yes, it happens. It is NOT the same as owning a weapon whose SOLE purpose is the death of something.
The law is not "arbitrary." No on is taking your precious weapon away. Register it, and get over it.
(i) licences, registration certificates and authorizations under which persons may possess firearms in circumstances that would otherwise constitute an offence.
What does this mean? It means that guns are not normal "property." It means that it is a privilege and not a right to own weapons.
You need a permit to own/drive a car, get married, etc. Get over yourselves.
An Armed Man has serious issues, one being the need to own something whose sole purpose is death, the other is likely to do with compensation for having no dick.
An Unarmed person revels in the freedom of not needing a deadly weapon to exist in the world. I don't need a deadly weapon to fend for myself.
This is true: if you assert yourself with violence, that violence will return to you. Guns are made solely for violence. How sad.
Typical overreaction to a fear or disliking of firearms. If the "sole purpose of death" line doesn't work, you must be compensating for something. And I always thought Corvettes and Ferraris were for that.
Just because you have no need or want for a firearm don't assume your opinion is more valid than anyone else's and they shouldn't own one.
I know quite a few people who have guns and they've never hurt anything. That kind of kills your solely for violence theory.
Yeah, "typical." Now there's a good argument. Tell me, how is it "typical"?
Furthermore, you twist my argument. I never said people shouldn't own firearms or weapons, did I? But for some reason you feel a need to say that that is what I'm suggesting, which in turn means you can't counter what I'm arguing about registration.
Why can't you argue? Because it's likely you know that my argument is solid. So instead you attack me for things I haven't said, and you change the subject.
Your argument is typical because you have to assume that someone has a small dick or a desire to own something manufactired solely for killing.
Take a look back through history and tell me how well gun registrations worked out for the gun owner. Not too well, I'd say.
And your argument that I responded to is rubbish. Your assumptions about gun owners is way off base and I gather that you believe people should feel liberated because they don't own a gun.
You still keep sidestepping the issue, but that's okay. I expect it.
You still don't say why gun registry is a "bad idea." Many things in life have to be registered etc. Why guns, a weapon made for killing, should somehow not be is never made clear. But this is where the libertarians step in and start talking about "freedoms" etc, forgetting all the while that they live in a democracy that thinks the registry is largely a good idea.
They're losers and can't stand it. Too bad. Next issue.
I wish you, your family...especially your dad the best of luck. He is a HERO for all those who support the right to bear arms. I'm glad to know that there is someone out there willing to ACTUALLY fight for his rights, freedoms and what he believes in. I'm also very proud of you for supporting your dad. I could only hope that my young daughters take such an interest in standing up for what's right and their dear old dad. You all are an inspiration.... GOD BLESS!!!
Anyone who owns a gun just wants to use it to kill people with. Peace is the only way that we can stop war. Act now and get a free T-shirt from putaguntoyourpeacelovinghead & co.
im a gun owener ohh ive got an ak-47 Rarw... scared?... why? i dont want to kill anyone and would only do it if it ment My life or Your life where in danger its sad but i think the only way yuppies that refuse to look at the facts will change there minds is when some one with a CPL saves there sorry life... probly Still they would cry about it >.> point is thats the most insulting opinion ive heard and that seems to be all you clowns can say grow up
I do. I would rather be workin a scene with a dead criminal and a shaken homeowner than a scene with a dead family and someone on the loose. People that have CCL I don't have to worry about. Its the people with stolen guns and no license to carry concealed that I do.
so canada is having firearm issues? just get a 3nd amendment like america or something... ( i know not that easy) sorry guys, hope you pull through.
people without firearms, one day you might wake up and realize not everyone is a vigilante or a hero. its a common use of defense. if there was a massacre or riot of somekind... you would go to your friend's house who owns a firearm. dont lie to yourself
Sluethy, if you wanna see a Nazi take a look in the mirror! Just because i'm German, doesnt mean that you can compare me with Nazis! I DONT own a gun, i'm NOT a psycho gunlover as you! So who is closer to being compared to a Nazi? The awnser : You are!
They just might if the trend continues down the road enough. Hitler's servants did that kind of work and history is repeating. One thing facism will do as it rears it's corrupt head again, besides messing with the fundamentally honest folk, is to settle with fools who make comments like you did.
You are awesome. God bless you and don't listen to the ignorant that just want their cable TV and beer with no regard for what freedoms the government takes. As Benjamin Franklin said, "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
The stupid Gun Registry is just a ploy by the Liberal government to assure the guillible public that something's being done about gun crime, when in reality it's completely counterproductive
Thats the way it always goes,the law abiding citizens are punished and the irresponsible criminals get away. Y don't they focus their attention on the thousands of illegal handguns in major urban areas being used by drug dealers and other criminals?
she reads to much national post
harrisonconstantinou 2 weeks ago
This whole gun registry thing is bullshit. The whole issue was around a relatively new registry that the Liberals said would cost $1 million and instead cost $2 billion. It was created solely to keep a record of guns that were not in the other registry, which already tracks all handguns and all rifles since the 1970s. This new registry was just for the rifles that were sold before the 1970s. Nobody robs a bank with a 40 year old bolt action rifle. What a waste of time and money.
theredscourge 4 weeks ago
How many gun control activists know that you DO NOT need to register or insure a vehicle if it is going to be used ONLY on private property? The rules/laws that gun control nuts use to compare cars to guns are TOTALLY invalid for about 2 dozen reason. This one being the most important. You DON'T need to register a vehicle unless you use it on PUBLIC PROPERTY!!!!
SCROGY 2 months ago
The popular sound bite is "Criminals don't register guns" as if those who supported the registry didn't know that. It's not about tracking down criminals it about making it more difficult for them to buy guns than for a teenager to buy beer. Without the registry you don't need a firearms permit, just know someone who does. With the registry a person is responsible for the guns they buy.
It is not a quick fix.
As for the costs, harper's G20 3 day party cost tax payers 1-2 billion dollars.
defiantnoise 2 months ago
@defiantnoise BULL. The registry does NOTHING to make it harder for criminals to buy guns. That comes from stricter import laws and border patrols. And besides that was NEVER the intent of the registry. Do not create a red herring here. The intent was so that cops would know what guns were in a house when they approach it. But that is a farce since no cop in their right mind would ASSUME the registry is giving them correct info. You appraoch a house with the worst case scenario in mind.
SCROGY 2 months ago
@defiantnoise .....think about it. If the registry says that someone own a .22 snubnose, do you appraoch the house with less caution than if they had a 7mm Remington magnum rifle? NEVER. You assume the worst (in other words you assume the registry might be wrong). That way you always approach the situation in the safest manner possible. Therefore saying cops rely on it is a total face. No cop is ever going to assume the registry is correct and that the home owner is being honest.
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@defiantnoise With the registry, the blame for stolen guns is shifted from the person that stole them to the homeowner. That's the fucking very definition of insanity. Only a God damn Liberal nut job would think there's anything logical about that. STOP THE CRIMINALS FROM STEALING THEM in the first place!!! You wouldn't accept the blame if someone stole your car would you? Think about that. You know damn well you'd be livid if the government blamed you for the theft of your car.
SCROGY 2 months ago
@defiantnoise How is that different then with the registry. You register it to who ever has the licence if on the off chance you are buying it through more legal channels. Much more common and easy is to just steal them or smuggle them.
chillnshred 2 months ago
@1h34rtmus1c Well I have to say that you'd probably be better off if your governement wasn't wasting so much money on it's military. There's a war at home and it's being fought for your constitutional rights. More cops on the streets won't hurt anything if politicians stop pissing tax money away on BS wars. I'm no hippie, but the U.S is as bad as Canada when it comes to dickfuck politicians wasting your tax dollars. I am all for self protection but more cops protecting you is not bad.
SCROGY 5 months ago
@1h34rtmus1c Yeah. The problem with the morons that push gun control is that they put the ox before the cart. Their logic is: we need registration for when people steal your guns and use them in crimes". WTF is that logic about? Try STOPPING THE CRIMINALS FROM STEALING FROM ME YOU HIPPIES ASSHOLES. Try giving me the right to defend my house/property and family. Hire more cops to patrol the streets so they are safer. STOP THREATENING MY RIGHTS with innefective laws that punish law abiders
SCROGY 5 months ago
@1h34rtmus1c You missed the point. I am VERY pro gun ownership. In fact I don't believe in gun control at all. What I was saying is that the people who say "we register cars, so we should register guns" are TOTALLY full of shit. If you kill someone in a drunk driving accident you can get your licence back after a few years. Would those same gun control assholes want to give someone their guns back a few years after they use one to commit murder? Not likely, so their point is BULLSHIT.
SCROGY 5 months ago
where spending it for that wendy bitch hoping shes gonna shut up but it doesn't work
OPandroids 6 months ago
holy sh*t even the Canadians get it.. Criminals dont care about gun laws
hoyt387 6 months ago
Anyone who compares owning a gun to a car is a moron. Do you really need me to explain why the two are nothing alike?
SCROGY 6 months ago
They want you to register your guns so they can discriminate against you....
manny298 7 months ago
Get rid of phony 'Laws' by making everyone aware of the for-profit corporations that masquerade as our governments.
* legitimate government isn't supposed to 'make a profit' but rather protect and maintain a system in which THE PEOPLE can do business and prosper *
All people need to be aware of the 'word tricks' and deceit in so-called 'contracting' that Gov. Inc. uses as excuse to pillage and bully the populace.
Corporate 'Government' has NO AUTHORITY to 'govern' anyone who says NO THANKS!
tomjunk1965 7 months ago
one prob in this argument is ur dad violated the law. I'm not agianst his cause I'm just making the point that if someone does violate the law and are set "free" then the constitution should apply to them as well instead of how it is now that there's a seperate set of laws that apply to them forever and not others who either never violated law or never got caught!
assman255 7 months ago
Reminds me why New York got in trouble with the FBI... New York was confiscating weapons on flights that got diverted to their state... Well thats illegal also detaining the owners and making them pay a fine.... They did this to a FBI agent confiscated his gun and detained him... FBI got angry and did some digging. :D
Wolfstanus 7 months ago
Name one person the gun registry has saved. That's all. Just one.
hnican 8 months ago
You go girl! That is what we need in this country, your a great role model to other young people, fight for what you believe in, She makes me proud to be a Canadian
CplJack1 8 months ago
@cheepone2 LOL i know right?
amyhuk 9 months ago
This link is important and current on Canadian progress and news,check it out.Type in to address browser---"LUFA"+"GUNS"
teed60 1 year ago
we dont need gun control we need liberal control...
viper10011 1 year ago
@viper10011 HAHA.....we do, his name is Steven Harper. Vote Consevative and keep the registry where it belongs........in the garbage.
SCROGY 6 months ago
your all amped up on one law and reading to much into it! have we forgotten that in ontario it is our right to bare arms???? have we lost this!!! your allowed to walk down town toronto with your double barrel and ammo in your pocket decked out in camo. just don't know how far you'll get without some cop stopping you asking you questions and it's all how you answer those questions if you sound pissed off then he might have the right to arrest you or detain you to fighure out why you have ur gun
grimshaw24 1 year ago
We can argue this issue until the cows come home
I agree that the Guns Registry should be abolished and replaced with a law to prohibit anyone who is not in law enforcement or the armed forces from handling a gun as the ownership should only belong to the government agency.
It should be illegal for anyone to own a gun period end of story, case closed.
UDOG01 1 year ago
@UDOG01 "...ownership should only belong to the government agency. It should be illegal for anyone to own a gun period"
People like evil murderous dictators and violent criminals agree with you completely. Enjoy the company you keep. While you're at it, you should lobby for everyone to be locked in individual prison cells. You know. For their own safety.
Fucking idiot.
rmcdaniel423 1 year ago 2
@UDOG01 I hope your building a steel cage to live in. Will you also ban knives, ropes, shovels, baseball bats, and politicians..
Would you like to tell that story to a woman who was raped? Tell her she has no right to protect herself. How about senseless deaths caused by drunk driving, will you ban cars or alchool ??
Maybe we should ban people like you instead, or leave you in your steel cage
MrFangole 1 year ago
@UDOG01 Are you retarded? Why should I not be allowed to own a firearm? Because you think it's wrong? Get a grip.
FrankieC63 1 year ago 9
@FrankieC63 You SHOULD be allowed to own guns. That's what democracy is. You have the right to do so. This bozo doesn't understand that.
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@UDOG01 there are places you can go where only government agents can legally be armed. north korea comes to mind. off you go, enjoy your safety.
secretshadow87 7 months ago
@UDOG01 You sir, need to get the hell out of my country.
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liberals are idiots.
viper10011 1 year ago
kakashi76767 grow up !
103jazzmine 1 year ago
you know, you should invite that woman that does all of the BS "ProtestEasyGuns" videos to a debate!
FreedomFightersUnion 1 year ago
@AZCAjeeper its true, she is flat as a board. how is that ignorant??
kakashi76767 1 year ago
i think this chick is so angry because she has such small tits. im guessing she is like a 30a. sad... it makes sense though, since guys with small dicks love guns
kakashi76767 1 year ago
@kakashi76767 Are you intimidated by this smart girl. I'll bet she is closer to a 34 A - but while you may think her breast size is a negative - arguably it is the opposite for others -
At least it is no worse an issue than your obvious gun ownership
UDOG01 1 year ago
@UDOG01 she should get implants. i would do anything she said if she did.
kakashi76767 1 year ago
@UDOG01 Yes she is a smart girl, I really don't care about her bra size, her page says she is 19, not that it matters. Under 35 is too young for me. Medically, if piggletwigglet were a pedophile, he would not be interested in her since she is post pubescent. Ephebophile is the word you are looking for. What is your issue against law abiding gun ownership? Kind of extreme even in the UK. You would love Jamaica. Wait, they make the US look like Japan and Canada.
island4diver 10 months ago
@kakashi76767 And what do guys who make fun of little girls have? A strong hate for their mother, no girlfriend and a rape charge on their record? Retard.
SCROGY 6 months ago
@SCROGY look, she has small tits. that fact makes me neither a mother hater, nor single, nor a rapist, nor a retard. you were wrong 4 times in one comment. and she still has small tits. nothing will change that. women with small tits are not to be trusted. scientific studies have proved this. google it. have a nice day! :)
kakashi76767 6 months ago
@kakashi76767 Whatever troll.
SCROGY 6 months ago
@SCROGY what, are you saying she has nice tits?
kakashi76767 6 months ago
@kakashi76767 No, I am saying you're a moron and a troll.
SCROGY 6 months ago
@SCROGY I never said she was a moron! All I said was that she has small tits, which is true! Also, why is she not in a kitchen?
kakashi76767 6 months ago
do you have any fucking friends? no bitch!!!! i would fuck you in bed and it be hotter if you told me the lesson there.... fuck me, say what? haha bitch!
piggletwigglet 1 year ago
@piggletwigglet - you better be 16 or under to make these comments about Katie - otherwise gun registry is not an issue for you to fear - but the pedophile registry may have your name soon
UDOG01 1 year ago
Some good points there. I like to see young people taking any kind of stand. Good for you. The counter argument is that we need a gun registry because police need an inventory of guns to help them to confiscate them from people who are insane (insanity can develop in people), suicidal or those who are found to be violent. In such cases, police need to know how many guns to seize. If an insane person has five guns, but the police only find four, they know to keep looking.
makinawdandy6699 1 year ago
I'd be very surprised if they make any meaningful attempt to return any of the stolen guns to their owners. 0:38
furyofbongos 1 year ago
can you say new world order check it out. Jesus is coming soon. gun control is the spirit of the antichrist.
weldrene 1 year ago
Give it up with the Canadian BS. We all know it is only going to get worse there. Just move on down to the US. No permits to buy, no permits to carry. No need to register, or even disclose you are carrying to law enforcement.
pJonathan22047 1 year ago
@pJonathan22047 im canadian and I love my country. Id rather fight for my own freedoms before i throw in the towel and move to another country.
viper10011 1 year ago
Liberals going AGAINST criminals? wow now thats just weird and not true. We should get a poll of every major city's beat cops and ask them if the registry is usefull to them at all. Then we should push for a patition to scrap the registry endorced solely by Law Enforcment. I say wear an empty pistol holster allday everyday to show people that regardless if theres a weapon in it or not you are NOT A CRIMINAL.
420Leprikon 1 year ago
My grandfather was killed by a shotgun placed against a fencepost (loaded) by his drunk buddy during a moose hunt. I ask, did the gun registration save his life? The man who killed him was never prosecuted. I am a target shooter and hunter. If you want to save lives, get rid of the gun registry. Put the money towards stopping criminals. Are criminals really going to register their firearms? No.
TheBattleSCAR 1 year ago
We spend all this money for the registry because there are fear mongers in parliament. They see a gun and cringe.Oh my ,Oh my.They act like old ladies that stay in their home and fear everything thats out there. Wake up people.This whole thing is about money and the people who fight the most get payed. Like that Wendy Cucumber chick. Did anyone hear how she calls a .223 a duck gun? What a lame excuse for a rep. She fights for a paycheck as well for her her future paycheck. Wake up people
3xut 1 year ago
A driver's license is for driving on public (i.e. the government OWNS it) roads. You can drive all you want on your property (like up and down your driveway) without one. This is the way it should be with guns: permits to carry in public spaces. Private businesses and individuals have the RIGHT to deny you access to their property if you have in your possession a firearm!
zt2211 1 year ago
I can't find that article.
NoGuff 2 years ago
Hey,
Decent video there on a point by point basis but it would help to cite your sources in your sidebar for easy access. Have a link to the news article your reading from and the Statistics Canada site if you use any statistics.
Desette 2 years ago
As an American living in Canada - it's torture.
I guess there's a price for living is such a great country - giving up loads of your hard earned money and liberty. :P
ALAPINO 2 years ago
the truth will set you free . but a gun will allways make shore you stay free and alive!
ryanperry90 2 years ago
I am Canadian, but I live in America. You go girl, speak the truth.
iewnauq7 2 years ago
How many have died as a result of the registry?
Just say no to government fraud.
TeamLibertyExpress 2 years ago 2
that was awsome, your dad is cool, and so are u
terrancelueckgen 2 years ago
It's about time The Liberal Criminals were reprimanded for this Gun Registry Fiasco. The only thing achieved by this whole "escapade" is the Theft of Billions of dollars of taxpayer money, by liberal contractors and sub-contractors. The few data-entry clerks that were hired at minimum wage were the only beneficiaries of this Retarded attempt at social engineering, all for political rhetoric.
valO599 2 years ago 2
Laws that just Criminalized Law-Abiding citizens with ridicules Nit-Picking Laws, designed to create trouble for legal gun owners. Not just to register, but also retroactively change specification-alterations to pre-existing guns, in order to Criminalize Citizens and give the Police technical justifications to harass, fine and imprison people they do not like, even though these people are Law Abiding Citizens.
valO599 2 years ago 20
In Quebec it has gotten to the point where Police are constantly monitoring, intimidating, threatening, with the use of "neighbor-hood watch" people. Informing neighbors about gun owners and then using them. This is especially true of "non-french" gun owners. Is is Unwritten Quebec Government Policy to use the Provincial Security Services to disarm non-french citizens. All brought to you from the Liberal Party.
valO599 2 years ago
I write from experience. I have played "chicken" on my motorcycle 2 times with SQ-police cars in my lane on the same segment of Qubec highway.
valO599 2 years ago
@valO599 The are doing it all over Canada
ufloetz 1 year ago
Picklebill your a idiot.Your the perfect candidate for the liberal sheep of the month club.
bjhno2 2 years ago
why shouldn't gun owners be forced to pay for the damage they cause to society? I say, tax bullets and bullet making supplies like they tax ciggaretts. The EPA should ban the use of lead in bullets. Only rubber bullets should be allowed.
pickledbill 2 years ago
Lets agree on a common truth, that a-hole gun owners get big money for buying guns and re-selling them annonomously on the streets. We should change the law that anyone who buys a gun buys the civil liability for it for life unless they report the sale to the State. If its used in a crime, and you didnt register that you dont own it, you have to pay.
pickledbill 2 years ago
Let's not. We already have laws on the book that are designed to prevent this. Do you think another law will help? Gun registration has never and will never deter crime. Historically, registration has always been the precursor to confiscation.
ResponsibleGunOwner 2 years ago
Lol, stolen guns are cheap. That sounds like the worst business idea ever.
sendkeys 2 years ago
Well, if you faced liability for life once you bought a gun, I think you'd keep it someplace where it couldnt get stolen.
pickledbill 2 years ago
why not hold people that get their cars stolen liable.seems like selective enforcement.long live jim crow.
cassidy99ful 2 years ago 2
Because people are not unlicensed buying cars only to resell in the inner city where they are used to commit crimes. You make an excellent point why we need stricter gun registration laws, If you don't object to your car being registered, it seems to me you won't object to your gun being registered. Seems like selective enforcement to me.
pickledbill 2 years ago
If you forget to renew your registration for your car are you asked to forfeit your car to the police for destruction? Do you expect the police to search your house to find the car. Do you need to undergo a background check to get a drivers license, and have your wife sign your application if you're married. You need two references who will be called by the RCMP. It is in no way like registering a car, and there is a big difference between having a firearms license and firearms registration.
Tazzy1967 2 years ago
I also can't understand why Americans are always commenting on this video when they know nothing of our gun laws.
Tazzy1967 2 years ago
If you forget to renew your car's registration, it gets impounded. Police dont have to search my house for my car because there is no loophole on registration. Nobody stops you to see if you are drunk off your ass while you are operating your gun. If somebody borrows your car to commit a crime, the police show up on your doorstep. Most Americans think of Canada as just the 51st state.
pickledbill 2 years ago
It gets impounded if you drive it illegally, not if you let your registration lapse. Police don't have to look for your car because your driving your mothers and living in her basement. What Loophole??? Are you condoning drunk driving? Most Canadians think Americans like YOU are assholes.
Tazzy1967 2 years ago
You ARE driving it illegally if you let the registration lapse. Most Americans don't think about Canadians like you, or any other kind, because you are otherwise insignificant, petty little people.
pickledbill 2 years ago
If you knew how to read, that is exactly what I said if you DRIVE it. You don't have the cops coming to your house to seize your car when your registration expires. I see that you are anti Canadian. If we are so petty why do you even bother to get involved in our politics?.....Never mind, I just checked your profile, I see from all the negative comments that you are clearly a TROLL looking to stir up trouble. Forgive me carry on your TROLLINESS
Tazzy1967 2 years ago
It should be.
tommysch 2 years ago
Yeah go buy a new Glock for $550 and then see what you can get for it on the streets. Maybe $250? Worst idea ever.
justanotherkevin 2 years ago
Closing the Gun Show Loophole
Principles for Effective Legislation
Introduction
In 1996, the Violence Policy Center (VPC) released an article titled: Gun Shows in America: Tupperware® Parties for Criminals.The study detailed how gun shows have become a readily available source of weapons and ammunition for a wide variety of criminals—including street gangs, white supremacists, would-be presidential assassins, and domestic terrorists.
pickledbill 2 years ago
I'm not sure what planet you live on but around here the criminals either steal their guns or buy them from a crack head (who stole it) for like 50 bucks
brucestringbean 2 years ago
Yes, they "steal" them from gun owners who don't do enough to make sure they are secure. If you had lifetime liability for anything that happened to a gun that was not reported stolen, you'd keep the gun locked up.I'm tired of you hilljacks buying and selling guns without any oversight. You claim your afraid of the government when the truth is you make too much damn money selling them to the criminals so the rest of us are too afraid to ban them. Tax ammo and ammo supplies like the next tobacco.
pickledbill 2 years ago
So a criminal commits a crime and somehow its MY fault? If youre tried of us hilljacks Im really going to piss in your wheaties. Every single weapon I own was purchased used in a face to face PRIVATE sale. (think gunshow loophole) Meaning, I have never had to submit to an NCIS check and as far as the government is concerned every weapon I own (none of them have a legitimate sporting purpose BTW) fell off the face of the earth when I bought them.
brucestringbean 2 years ago
Yeah, no shit. If you need to register your car, you should have to register your gun. and if 10 of your guns get "stolen" well then that's your problem. Why should it be my problem that you are a stupid ass? Dont let your guns get stolen.
pickledbill 2 years ago
Part 2
And banning weapons isn't your issue. why don't you try coming to pick them up?
Oh wait, mine don't exist you can't pick them up. so why don't you co tell the people who have purchased over 1 Million bnew fire arms and 1 BILLION rounds of ammuntion since the november elections that you want THEIR guns. let me know how that works out for you.
brucestringbean 2 years ago
There aint nothin in the constitution says we cant tax your gun. Aint nothin says we cant regulate your gun. Aint nothin says we cant put you in jail for 50 years for breaking the law. Aint nothin says we cant hold you responsible for your gun. Its the future. You a-holes will pay ANYTHING to have your guns. We can tax it 1000% and you'll pay. You can't not have your guns. That makes for good revenue. You cant quit no matter how hard we squeeze you.
pickledbill 2 years ago
We may not quit but we can certainly shoot. How do you intend to tax my guns? All of which are locked up unless in use BTW Remember, they dont exist, or if they do they belong to someone 2 or 3 sales and a state or two ago. Theres nothing linking my guns to me you dont really think Im the only one do you? and federal law specifically forbids firearms registration. As for regulating my guns you might want to Google AWB 94 and ask the folks that voted for it how that worked out for them
brucestringbean 2 years ago
Stupid ass, what are you going to shoot? My guess would be bullets. What did I say we should tax? Bullets and bullet making supplies. Unlike guns, ammo has a finite life. You either shoot it off or it goes stale. Then, when you go to buy more, a box will cost you a hundred bucks. As for your guns, keep them locked up in your house and you are ok by me. Just dont try to sell them or buy any more the tax man is gonna get ya. stupid ass.
pickledbill 2 years ago
When I was in the Army we routinely trained W/ ammunition that was thirty years old. Apparently ammunition doesn't go quite as stale as you think. You seem kinda pissy Bill is there a reason? I mean all that hate has got to be eating you up inside. Is there anything I can do to help? Do you hate guns because you see them as an extension of your penis and they bring up latent homosexuality issues? Do men W/ guns scare you do they remind you of the abuse you suffered at the hands of your father
brucestringbean 2 years ago
exactly what hitler did.why did he do that?oh yes,work makes you free.
cassidy99ful 2 years ago
"you make too much damn money selling them to the criminals"
Can you explain how this works?
justanotherkevin 2 years ago
Ok. You are a felon, so you can't legally buy a gun. So you go to a gun show, where a casual seller sells you an overpriced gun in exchange for not doing a background check. What are you, a freaking moron? Where do you think the criminals get their guns you idiot.
pickledbill 2 years ago
pickledbill: "-hole gun owners get big money for buying guns and re-selling them annonomously on the streets."
When I buy a gun in a gun store it is registered to me. If I sell it on the street it will still be registered to me, and if it is ever used in a crime the ballistics will be traced back to me even if I was nowhere near the crime scene. People aren't selling their guns on the street man get a friggin clue.
justanotherkevin 2 years ago
April 2009 article on guns:
The average cost of a European-made AK-47s has doubled since the fall.
Investing in ammo beats the hell out of money markets and CDs, says a supplier. You can double your investment in ammunition in a year.
pickledbill 2 years ago
OK..this young lady's trying to make a point...if you look past her being so young and a little inarticulate,she's making a point. Gun registry doesn't work. She's merely trying to get he word out,as best as she can. Insulting comments and bashing each other doesn't help. The issue is gun control...let's stop being so nasty and agree on a common truth-gun control does not work.
luvmyx 2 years ago
You are a fucking MORON. How about this.Some selections from "Mein Kampf" by Adolf Hitler:
"The best political weapon is the weapon of terror. Cruelty commands respect. Men may hate us. But, we don't ask for their love; only for their fear."
This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
Ever Hear of GOOGLE!
Tazzy1967 2 years ago
If in doubt compare someone/something to Hitler.
Twat again.
ryko26 2 years ago
You sound like someone in the military or law enforcement. do you also believe in martial law? Should people call on you when they are in danger? I can't say that I'm sad you're gone. BTW registration leads to CONFISCATION. Check out the history books.
Tazzy1967 2 years ago
Tazzy1967 - what a twat
ryko26 2 years ago
Twat??? That was my ass you were looking at ...FAGGOT
Tazzy1967 2 years ago
what does that even mean? go back to your wanking over gun mags you sad hick! lol!
ryko26 2 years ago
You Limeys don't understand English anymore? I'll look at my gun magazines, you go look after your flower garden.... I know you have one. And it's time for you to move out of your Mothers house.
Tazzy1967 2 years ago
Er....right. Nice upper case for "Mothers" (with no possessive apostrophe) . But never mind, I'm sure all gun dickheads can't be illiterate hicks.
ryko26 2 years ago
Thank you for your kind words. I knew you would finally come to see the truth.
Tazzy1967 2 years ago
I keep seeing "Why is a gun registry a bad idea?" Because only people who actually obey the law will register their firearms. Criminals are criminals for a reason. Passing more gun laws only ensures that criminals (You know, those recidivistic maggots who routinely break the law) will always have helpless, unarmed victims. Liberals say "You don't need a gun, call a cop." I've never tried to dial 911 after I've been robbed a murdered, but I don't think I'd have much luck with it.
GuiltyTillUrInnocent 2 years ago
Recidivistic maggots? I didn't know that there were people who reproduce via metamorphosis.
mendelbot 2 years ago
Are you from Canada? What do you even know about our gun laws? And what does registering a car have anything to do with guns? TROLL
Tazzy1967 2 years ago
The cacp are the ones who support the registry. Most front line cops don't. Rates of gun ownership DO NOT affect crime rates. Look at England and Switzerland.
So it's my fault if someone steals my guns? I guess it's a woman fault for being raped for showing cleavage too.
You even say gun control doesn't affect crime rates. Why have it then? Why do you fear your fellow citizens being armed?
Do you blame cars when drunks kill people on the road?
You've defeated your own argument.
Throttlemonkey1 2 years ago 2
Oh yeah, about the 110lb woman, maybe she would be attacked by surprise, I don't know. At least if she was allowed to carry a gun she would have a chance to defend herself.
"gun control is the theory that a woman found raped and strangled with her own pantyhose is somehow morally superior to the same woman explaining to the police how her attacker received those fatal bullet wounds".
Explain to me, why do cops have guns? No bullshit, just answer the question.
Throttlemonkey1 2 years ago
Fact- the most violent cities in the US have the strictest gun control.
Fact- the registry cost 2 billion dollars, costing 1000 times or 100 000% more than anticipated. There are approx 16.5 million guns in Canada. 7 million are registered. The registry is so full of holes, it is inadmissable in court.
Fact: wendy cukier and the coalition for gun control recieved over 300 000$ a year from the liberal govts.
want more? Are you just going say I'm silly again? Debate like an adult, not a kid.
Throttlemonkey1 2 years ago
Fact: in the 1990s , 500 000 .25 and .32 caliber pistols and other guns were confiscated by our government after order in council prohibition orders were passed. No compensation was paid to the legal owners.
Fact: in every US state that has enacted concealed carry laws, allowing citizens to carry guns, crime has dropped. Period.
Fact: only about 3-6% of all recovered handguns were registered to law abiding gun owners.
Throttlemonkey1 2 years ago
Who care about confiscation? Hire a lawyer if you don't like the way the law works.
Fact: most gun crimes occur involving people who own guns: burglars stealing guns and shooting their owners, children shooting other children, and so on. Fact: Crime has dropped all round and gun ownership has nothing to do with it.
What is 6% (if we believe your "fact") of a 223 million firearms (estimated to exist in the US)? Why, that's about 14 million. Doesn't look like a small number to me.
calvintoronto 2 years ago
Ok it's obvious your only counter is "silly" or "YOU know". Here's some facts:
The CACP (Canadian association of the chiefs of police) support the registry. They are a lobby group, who has accepted large donations from CGI, the computer company that designed the gun registry. Out of the 9400 "hits" on the gun registry per day, only 19 were for registration checks.
Throttlemonkey1 2 years ago
You, like your friends here, continually change the issue.
But, that's to be expected, because not one of you can actually substantiate just why registering a gun is such a bad thing.
Who cares about CACP? Fact is, cops don't like guns on the street, period. They know that fewer guns = less crime. Period.
And this always amuses me, that people who want to own weapons presumably for reasons of "law and order" find that their largest antagonists are.....police!! Speaks volumes!!
calvintoronto 2 years ago
Calvin- none of my arguments are false. So unarmed people are freer? Pass the crack pipe!
So a 110 lb woman should be unarmed against her 250lb male attacker because you feel she is compensating for a small dick? WTF?
Why do cops have guns? To protect human life. Period. Why aren't trained civilians allowed the same right?
Is a police officers life worth more than mine or yours? Brinks drivers can carry guns. Are their lives worth more than ours? Is their cargo worth more than your mothers
Throttlemonkey1 2 years ago
Your first sentence about crack pipes baffles me; it makes no sense.
Next, your implied argument that a 110lb woman is safer with a gun is laughable. Tell me something: she gets attacked by surprise, in some fashion. What's she gonna do? "Oh excuse me a minute while I take out my gun". Yeah, sure.
As for cops: they are ALL for the registry. Why? You know why.
You know too that most gun violence occurs when law-abiding citizens possess guns.
Your analogy to Brinks guards is just silly.
calvintoronto 2 years ago
Calvintoronto, can I come to your house and decide what I don't think you should be able to have, and then have the police come and take it away, zero compensation paid of course.
Oh yeah, don't try hiding or resisting, because we will throw your ass in jail. If it saves just one life and all...........
Throttlemonkey1 2 years ago
Your position is misleading and you know it. A gun is not just any household object, and you know it. The Canadian gun registry is just that: a registry. If you don't register, you forfeit the privilege of owning a deadly weapon. The same as any other thing: if you don't register your car, if you don't have a license, and on and on.
No one is taking anyone's weapon away, and you know it. You can offer misleading arguments until the cows come home. None of them is accurate, and you know it.
calvintoronto 2 years ago
Calvintoronto- um no. I do not need a permit to OWN a car. I don't need a licence. I don't need to register it either. Only to drive it on public roads. There is a HUGE difference. guns are MUCH more heavily regulated than cars, and MANY times more people are killed by cars every year.
A gun IS property. My guns are MINE. I guess you have no problem with the state arbitrarily prohibiting and confiscating people's legally owned property with zero compensation as done with many handguns?
Throttlemonkey1 2 years ago
When you purchase a car, it is registered. Not too much different from registering a gun. Then, you need a license to drive it on a road. Sort of like being registered to drive, don't you think?
The function of a car is NOT to kill, like the function of any machine: plane, tractor, bike. But, yes, it happens. It is NOT the same as owning a weapon whose SOLE purpose is the death of something.
The law is not "arbitrary." No on is taking your precious weapon away. Register it, and get over it.
calvintoronto 2 years ago
I feel very bad for your family. I hope Americans wake up and see the crap in Canada and refuse to let it happen here.
Tabooga65 2 years ago
Good grief. Read the Act. It states:
The purpose of this Act is
(a) to provide [...] for the issuance of
(i) licences, registration certificates and authorizations under which persons may possess firearms in circumstances that would otherwise constitute an offence.
What does this mean? It means that guns are not normal "property." It means that it is a privilege and not a right to own weapons.
You need a permit to own/drive a car, get married, etc. Get over yourselves.
calvintoronto 2 years ago
You are not just a fool but a slave.
Tabooga65 2 years ago 3
An Armed Man is "Governed", an Unarmed Man is "Ruled."
MIT1369 2 years ago
An Armed Man has serious issues, one being the need to own something whose sole purpose is death, the other is likely to do with compensation for having no dick.
An Unarmed person revels in the freedom of not needing a deadly weapon to exist in the world. I don't need a deadly weapon to fend for myself.
This is true: if you assert yourself with violence, that violence will return to you. Guns are made solely for violence. How sad.
calvintoronto 2 years ago
Typical overreaction to a fear or disliking of firearms. If the "sole purpose of death" line doesn't work, you must be compensating for something. And I always thought Corvettes and Ferraris were for that.
Just because you have no need or want for a firearm don't assume your opinion is more valid than anyone else's and they shouldn't own one.
I know quite a few people who have guns and they've never hurt anything. That kind of kills your solely for violence theory.
baxt3rs 2 years ago
Yeah, "typical." Now there's a good argument. Tell me, how is it "typical"?
Furthermore, you twist my argument. I never said people shouldn't own firearms or weapons, did I? But for some reason you feel a need to say that that is what I'm suggesting, which in turn means you can't counter what I'm arguing about registration.
Why can't you argue? Because it's likely you know that my argument is solid. So instead you attack me for things I haven't said, and you change the subject.
Uh, no. Wrong.
calvintoronto 2 years ago
Your argument is typical because you have to assume that someone has a small dick or a desire to own something manufactired solely for killing.
Take a look back through history and tell me how well gun registrations worked out for the gun owner. Not too well, I'd say.
And your argument that I responded to is rubbish. Your assumptions about gun owners is way off base and I gather that you believe people should feel liberated because they don't own a gun.
Solid. Yeah.
baxt3rs 2 years ago
You still keep sidestepping the issue, but that's okay. I expect it.
You still don't say why gun registry is a "bad idea." Many things in life have to be registered etc. Why guns, a weapon made for killing, should somehow not be is never made clear. But this is where the libertarians step in and start talking about "freedoms" etc, forgetting all the while that they live in a democracy that thinks the registry is largely a good idea.
They're losers and can't stand it. Too bad. Next issue.
calvintoronto 2 years ago
Strawman tactics? Come on! CAn't you come up with SOMETHING at least BASED on facts?
MIT1369 2 years ago
forget batman... Katie is my new hero!
keep up the good work katie!
alzathoth 2 years ago 3
Love you Katie. Keep up the good work.
a63975 3 years ago 6
Gun control is really people control and a precursor to confiscation, and dictatorship.
Everywhere that has strict gun control, crime rates soar.
Where conceal and carry laws are it effect crime rates plummet.
Never believe anything a Lieberal tells you, they lie.
Conan568 3 years ago 17
You're awesome, Katey!
Weaponsaint 3 years ago 4
I wish you, your family...especially your dad the best of luck. He is a HERO for all those who support the right to bear arms. I'm glad to know that there is someone out there willing to ACTUALLY fight for his rights, freedoms and what he believes in. I'm also very proud of you for supporting your dad. I could only hope that my young daughters take such an interest in standing up for what's right and their dear old dad. You all are an inspiration.... GOD BLESS!!!
Nehribus 3 years ago 8
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Anyone who owns a gun just wants to use it to kill people with. Peace is the only way that we can stop war. Act now and get a free T-shirt from putaguntoyourpeacelovinghead & co.
Machinima72 3 years ago
i don't like you.
my dad owns three guns and i own 1 and its never crossed my mind to kill anybody. 'till now
redneck434 3 years ago 4
you just proved his point!!! implying you want to kill him beacuse of a comment
TheeGrandmaster 3 years ago
but he said that people with guns ONLY want to kill people.
i target shoot for fun. i'm a pretty non violent person until a moron pisses me off
redneck434 3 years ago 3
im a gun owener ohh ive got an ak-47 Rarw... scared?... why? i dont want to kill anyone and would only do it if it ment My life or Your life where in danger its sad but i think the only way yuppies that refuse to look at the facts will change there minds is when some one with a CPL saves there sorry life... probly Still they would cry about it >.> point is thats the most insulting opinion ive heard and that seems to be all you clowns can say grow up
Rkenshinx2 3 years ago
Ment to be reply to machinima72
Rkenshinx2 3 years ago
This is probably one of the dumbest anti-gun comments I have ever heard.
deworeg 3 years ago
Sorry! I have enough T-shirts!
88Azazel 2 years ago
police don't want you to have guns.
Valetudo21 3 years ago
I do. I would rather be workin a scene with a dead criminal and a shaken homeowner than a scene with a dead family and someone on the loose. People that have CCL I don't have to worry about. Its the people with stolen guns and no license to carry concealed that I do.
Mr5150 3 years ago 11
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Could you explain more on why your dad's on trial, I really feel like finding a reason to call him a fucking idiot.
ilovemonkays 3 years ago
it is unfortinate that Canadian gun laws are so unaffective. Remember that it is your RIGHT to defend yourself. Your father needs to be set free.
sabotUP 3 years ago
so canada is having firearm issues? just get a 3nd amendment like america or something... ( i know not that easy) sorry guys, hope you pull through.
people without firearms, one day you might wake up and realize not everyone is a vigilante or a hero. its a common use of defense. if there was a massacre or riot of somekind... you would go to your friend's house who owns a firearm. dont lie to yourself
SteelCorpGehenna 3 years ago
Sluethy, if you wanna see a Nazi take a look in the mirror! Just because i'm German, doesnt mean that you can compare me with Nazis! I DONT own a gun, i'm NOT a psycho gunlover as you! So who is closer to being compared to a Nazi? The awnser : You are!
Datdingda 3 years ago
I wish Cops would blast a hole in Katey Montague's head!
Datdingda 3 years ago
They just might if the trend continues down the road enough. Hitler's servants did that kind of work and history is repeating. One thing facism will do as it rears it's corrupt head again, besides messing with the fundamentally honest folk, is to settle with fools who make comments like you did.
Sluethy 3 years ago
awesome!
pittsky 3 years ago
Smart girl. Keep up the good work.
yonigga223 3 years ago
You are awesome. God bless you and don't listen to the ignorant that just want their cable TV and beer with no regard for what freedoms the government takes. As Benjamin Franklin said, "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."
warwagonforhire 3 years ago 3
your cheesy
hosreh 3 years ago
She's jailbait, dude.
Ishpeck 3 years ago
legal in canada
coolstream1 3 years ago
The stupid Gun Registry is just a ploy by the Liberal government to assure the guillible public that something's being done about gun crime, when in reality it's completely counterproductive
antiislamist 3 years ago 3
Thats the way it always goes,the law abiding citizens are punished and the irresponsible criminals get away. Y don't they focus their attention on the thousands of illegal handguns in major urban areas being used by drug dealers and other criminals?