hey third age films. do you know the names of the soundtrack featured in the video called "lucifer rising part 1" ,(first one and the one at 3:33)? or can you at least recommend any artist of the same genre? and wat kind of genre is this music called??? please please please please......i would really love you if you know the nanmes. thank you =D
A lot of freaking moneys spend on an 2 hours movie that you watch and say: ,,O yea was great" and that's all.. In time that over than 900 mlns of humans are starving to death... End of the world in 2012?? Well I don't care and I will not fight to stop that not even with a finger....
0.75 seconds of megan fox is enough to make me horny. Id like to rut with her like a wild stag on viagra. not that i need viagra but it couldnt hurt, right? fuck I need a cold shower
He is right, he is not talking about the cube, but is talking about the energy that there was present before the demention of time came to being. Its all symbology and deciphering.
o-o woops at that but kronos is a titan nd a god, he is the time god and he did eat his childrren besides zeus nd slain...... nvm bout thats kronos... thought sumthin bout him and fire......
@lucasrenitif yeah i kinda feel that the all the greek gods were sorta inbred dicks. i mean he only gave fire to humans and they punish him. whats wrong with humans having fire.
@Nostripe361 look what we have done with it. first they used torches to hunt in night and prevent wild animal attacks. then burned forests for croplands, then the Greek fire was invented , then explosives like gunpowder , now we have most of our life based on fire. fire is progress. and we have done bad with it. and fire is knowledge but man remains man, we kill for we don't know how else to live. fire made killing easy.
@lucasrenitif knowledge is a gift not a curse. It is only how we use. I believe we have the right to knowledge and power. progress and exploration is what has allowed humans to survive. the issue is that we must learn to control the flames less we burn ourselves with it.
@STERENR which part? the part of what we have done or the ones including chronos eating his own children? if the part of us killing for living , killing for fun and watching the world burn... yeah, that's pretty shitty.
@STERENR well, that would be quite an experience. infact assuming from what i know about pain ( and i have read a lot of biologic and psychological literature ) it is probable that after a month or so a humans neural system would go dull to such pain that it encounters everyday. for example toothache. with time it goes numb. or deep cuts ( have enjoyed some on myself) - biological functions help fighting the pain releasing endorphine in bloodstream . with time you actualy start to enjoy it.
@lucasrenitif thats pretty amazing information you got there. but in this case, zeus has the ability to make him immortal to regenerate each time, and to curse an eagle, so Im pretty sure he can me him not to enjoy it every time xD
@STERENR yeah. kinda pointless from me to point out stuff like this in case we are talking about mythological stuff. however one small mistake. Zeus had no power over the immortality of titans. titans were immortal like powers of nature. that is why they were such opponents to gods. the one way to defeat titans was to banish them to Tartar, the abyss . the abyss was as ancient as earth itself if i remember correctly and it had power both gods and titans feared.
@virko1990 yeah, right. look, -read a book! one. then you can call people that haven't read it idiots.
my IQ is well above average and my total book count reaches in the second thousand by today. about mythologies i have collected more than 30 books of various importance and am even writing one.
in the end, just read Wikipedia article about Prometheus. once you are done you can return to this page and apologize.
@lucasrenitif um... any proves?....first rule of the internet, never talk about how smart you are, no one will believe you anyways. Give proves, if you realy want to "win" on the internet.
@Melifor1989 you cant "win" on the internet no matter what is your backing. by arguing on internet you are participating olympic games for retards, if you get gold it only makes you best of retards.
also, who are you to ask for proof?
as to no one believes whats said on the internet- then why do you even care? if i give proof here its still on internet, "tits or GTFO"
@virko1990 this actually made me raise my eyebrows. saying "yes i was wrong ". damn man, all honors to you. i know it tends to be hard to say that out loud.
cheers. tomorrow, when i drink my casual friday beer the first bottle is to your health. cheers.
also, Turman as Gorgona Medusa was a weak performance. knowing myths well i would say the modern demigod business was ok while many other facts were as comercial and BS as a man cold expect. for instance , Hydra, Gorgona, Minotaur, they were all dead. each of them has storyline and simply forgetting it is not a good way to write a story.
i would never call any other Transformers video "Epic" unless it has the same level as this one, which is a very high level of skill and beauty which i doubt that i'll find in other vids.
Ha, The Third Age is from the Tolien Universe. Its the Era of the Resurfacing of the Ring, Frodo and Sam's Quest. And the war ahead in Return of the King. I think these folks are Tolkien fans like myself.
does anyone else think they could hav came up with a better name then "the cube" lol... it sounds funny beuce he has this ominous voice and he's all " the cube -_-" lol i loved this movie =')
Transformers 2 is AMAZING! Absolutely fantastic! It goes on for ages though, something like 3 hours! Its all good though and the fight scenes are too good to describe! This video is great! Nice one!
Man i hope Optimus kicks major ass in the sequel and not just get thrown around by Megatron. Even though Megatron is going to be in the sequel as well.
thank you for inspiring me to make videos I just made a video and there was a video response saying that "Prometheus Rising" the music I used was the best music on youtube your transformers montage inspired me thank you so so much
WATCH THIS YOU WONT REGRET IT!!
/watch?v=Q68AoZJvnK0
(It's the same song but scynced with another video in HD!!)
PlayMoreNow 1 month ago
This music plays when Chuck Norris eats an apple
familyguy3313 3 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Immediate 8
I am here to watch comments... Below is one of the epics...
kinglrd 3 months ago
I come believe it myself, but i cried watching this u_u
autobotsniper 4 months ago
This should be the trailer!!
Chillin05kinebud 5 months ago
oh yes ! phim hay tuyet!
trungtinhvictory 6 months ago
Thumbs up if you'ver already seen all the transformers
gprime70 6 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Immediate 5
I have but one word to describe this: epic. The music fit the scenes PERFECTLY and the clips were amazing!
goldenwing57 6 months ago
WOAW!
MrSky47 6 months ago
i got the chill every 5 secons good job autobot out
halonooblolz 8 months ago
This is FREAKING EPIC! I absolutely love Transformers and Globus is one of my top favorite bands EVER.
iRockette 8 months ago
Jesus, I can only take so much high pitched choir. Everything is better in moderation.
superherobyday 8 months ago
He was a champion of mankind, known for his wily intelligence, who stole fire from Zeus and gave it to mortals.
GrandeMaestroRossini 9 months ago
MEGATRON
masterkill95 9 months ago
I got goose-bumps! This is epic! XD
HolmesWatson125 9 months ago
*Gabriel Inglesis* "DAYUMN!"
dtectorx3 9 months ago
hey third age films. do you know the names of the soundtrack featured in the video called "lucifer rising part 1" ,(first one and the one at 3:33)? or can you at least recommend any artist of the same genre? and wat kind of genre is this music called??? please please please please......i would really love you if you know the nanmes. thank you =D
evandrokimargentina 10 months ago
This is an awesome vid!!! I love it!
HolmesWatson125 11 months ago
i'm bad in english, so: das is richtig geil, leute, richtig geil!! O_O
0KaZuko0 1 year ago
@0KaZuko0 Mein Deutsch ist nicht sehr gut, so: yeah it was pretty cool! :D
NoOdL3z18 11 months ago
this music also used to solomon kane trailer
legospacepolice3 1 year ago
Amazing job.
SpartanLevin 1 year ago
Awesome work...good job.
nostress333 1 year ago
Best montage of this movie I've ever seen. If it was shorter it could easily be the professional trailer.
Seraph24199 1 year ago
wow,,,cool video,,,
sammueljameswiticker 1 year ago
COOLNESS!!!
ErinPrimette 1 year ago
transformation 1.02-1.04... OMFG!!!!
DeviousPsy 1 year ago
A lot of freaking moneys spend on an 2 hours movie that you watch and say: ,,O yea was great" and that's all.. In time that over than 900 mlns of humans are starving to death... End of the world in 2012?? Well I don't care and I will not fight to stop that not even with a finger....
DrAgonBull2all 1 year ago
This video is absolutely amazing. makes me want to watch transformers.
dmed312 1 year ago
Shame that such a solid movie should be followed with such a bull sequel. My expectations for the third are low.
Oh yeah, and this video kicked ass.
FlyingFocs 1 year ago
one word: epic
Golddoesnotglitter 1 year ago
I clearly see now why this is trailer music.
dmed312 1 year ago
heh heh the cube
iBallCreature 1 year ago
oh...my...."breathless"...this is so epic! thanks for waking me up!
JamesBondHero 1 year ago
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vaioboy0805 1 year ago
EPIC MUSIC, EPIC MOVIE, EPIC MONTAGE!!!
What else can I say?
StriderEstel 1 year ago
This should have been the extended trailer for transformers, it may be too long for a trailer but it is hell awsome, who's with m3h? =D
fireheatrail 1 year ago
@fireheatrail
Yeah, it could be, though it tells too much for people who haven't seen the movie :)
BoyBlueberry 1 year ago
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goosebumps bump bump bump bumps. . .
geozaf 1 year ago
do one for rotf
elite0117 1 year ago
i have goosebumps
radioxlovesongs 1 year ago
excuse me, what programe are you using?
because I'm using Sony Vegad Pro 9.0e and I don't know how to speed up the klips...
btw... VERY, VERY GOOD TRBIUTE ^^
olgamycha 1 year ago
@ThirdAgeFilms Thats an understatement.
CodyLeeWalters 1 year ago
0.75 seconds of megan fox is enough to make me horny. Id like to rut with her like a wild stag on viagra. not that i need viagra but it couldnt hurt, right? fuck I need a cold shower
just wanted to share that. thanks
lucasleivia 1 year ago
Really well done!
RebelLeaderSolari 1 year ago
What text is the transformers text, and could you possibly send me the link to the font download?
strykality 1 year ago
Best part IMO is the scorpion breaching the sand with his hands spinning.
Second best is the music matching the line "You still fight for the weak... That is why you lose!"
vegnegune 1 year ago
I send this message to any Autobot's hiding among the stars, We are here. We are waiting-Optimus Prime
shadow3245 1 year ago
This is totally epic. Explains the movie without giving anything away. This could TOTALLY pass as being a trailer.
phoenixprime95 1 year ago
If someone knows how to make something more epic than it alredy is, its thridagefilms.
sonicpower23 1 year ago
Dude, this video is sick. the music + optimus prime= EPICNESS!
AmericanHawkTY 1 year ago
ugh #2 was so bad and yet the first TF movie was awesome ;_;
ECSit 1 year ago
exelent is epic this trailer god job tanhks
cashernboy6 1 year ago
HEY THAT IS ONE AWESOME SOUNDTRACK CUT AT 2:32!!! how did you do it?
vincntius 1 year ago 2
no es el soundtrack de Dark Knight theme
SuperDevilGokU 1 year ago
perfect cut at 2:32. good editting but it sounds a little wierd esp when the general says " we are dealing with "
btw steve jablonsky's score was impeccable esp for the 1st one.
11281123 1 year ago
He is right, he is not talking about the cube, but is talking about the energy that there was present before the demention of time came to being. Its all symbology and deciphering.
nabeelmerchant 2 years ago
I can't take that opening line seriously...."before time began...there was the Cube"
I mean really....OTT much?
Rohan2300 2 years ago
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R9ilfenomeno 2 years ago
not the most appropriate soundtrack for this montage but superb cut (music) at 2:32.
wrathzero 2 years ago
iiiiiiiiii loooooooovvveeee this epicness
Blusdw 2 years ago
keeper of the olympic flame!
EVEREST234 2 years ago
isnt prometheus like a greek titan? O.O
deeaznkiiid 2 years ago 2
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nope,a human who brought divine fire to people and was punished idk how.
LattiMonsta 2 years ago
Prometheus was the titan who brought fire to mankind
he was a titan and immortal so he was punished for eternal pain as he was chained to a cliff and an eagle had a daily meal of his livers
plus hes immortality made him to regenerate each time...
lucasrenitif 2 years ago 52
thats kronos
plzforgiveme987 2 years ago
@plzforgiveme987
sorry to say, kronos- another GOD, not titan, he was also known as time itself
kronos was sure his son would kill him, and so he ate his children as they were born.
however he was later slain.
lucasrenitif 2 years ago 3
o-o woops at that but kronos is a titan nd a god, he is the time god and he did eat his childrren besides zeus nd slain...... nvm bout thats kronos... thought sumthin bout him and fire......
plzforgiveme987 2 years ago
@lucasrenitif man finaly someone that tels the story right!!!!!!!(sorry for my engish i am from greece)and again FINALY!!!!!
Starkillerakos234 1 year ago 2
@Starkillerakos234 lol, i'm simply bigtime into all the Epic stories... my dog for example... i named the sucker Heron, the ferryman of the dead...
lucasrenitif 1 year ago
@lucasrenitif yeah i kinda feel that the all the greek gods were sorta inbred dicks. i mean he only gave fire to humans and they punish him. whats wrong with humans having fire.
Nostripe361 1 year ago
@Nostripe361 look what we have done with it. first they used torches to hunt in night and prevent wild animal attacks. then burned forests for croplands, then the Greek fire was invented , then explosives like gunpowder , now we have most of our life based on fire. fire is progress. and we have done bad with it. and fire is knowledge but man remains man, we kill for we don't know how else to live. fire made killing easy.
lucasrenitif 1 year ago
@lucasrenitif knowledge is a gift not a curse. It is only how we use. I believe we have the right to knowledge and power. progress and exploration is what has allowed humans to survive. the issue is that we must learn to control the flames less we burn ourselves with it.
Nostripe361 1 year ago
@lucasrenitif thats pretty shitty dont you think? lol fuck zeus
STERENR 1 year ago
@STERENR which part? the part of what we have done or the ones including chronos eating his own children? if the part of us killing for living , killing for fun and watching the world burn... yeah, that's pretty shitty.
lucasrenitif 1 year ago
@lucasrenitif sctualy I was talking about the curse him, of geting hes liver eaten every day by the eagle lol.
but ya all does other stuff are pretty fuckt up too n.n
STERENR 1 year ago
@STERENR well, that would be quite an experience. infact assuming from what i know about pain ( and i have read a lot of biologic and psychological literature ) it is probable that after a month or so a humans neural system would go dull to such pain that it encounters everyday. for example toothache. with time it goes numb. or deep cuts ( have enjoyed some on myself) - biological functions help fighting the pain releasing endorphine in bloodstream . with time you actualy start to enjoy it.
lucasrenitif 1 year ago
@lucasrenitif thats pretty amazing information you got there. but in this case, zeus has the ability to make him immortal to regenerate each time, and to curse an eagle, so Im pretty sure he can me him not to enjoy it every time xD
but anyways its just mithology so who knows n.n
STERENR 1 year ago
@STERENR yeah. kinda pointless from me to point out stuff like this in case we are talking about mythological stuff. however one small mistake. Zeus had no power over the immortality of titans. titans were immortal like powers of nature. that is why they were such opponents to gods. the one way to defeat titans was to banish them to Tartar, the abyss . the abyss was as ancient as earth itself if i remember correctly and it had power both gods and titans feared.
lucasrenitif 1 year ago 2
@lucasrenitif prometheus was a god and yes he brought fire to mankind.and he was punished by zeus.....idiot
Prometeus and a titan..............-.-'
virko1990 1 year ago
@virko1990 yeah, right. look, -read a book! one. then you can call people that haven't read it idiots.
my IQ is well above average and my total book count reaches in the second thousand by today. about mythologies i have collected more than 30 books of various importance and am even writing one.
in the end, just read Wikipedia article about Prometheus. once you are done you can return to this page and apologize.
lucasrenitif 1 year ago 2
@lucasrenitif May i ask, what is your IQ. I also have above avergae.
autobotsniper 4 months ago
@autobotsniper checked at the age of 19 - was well above. im not going to brag around. if you have peculiar wish to know ask in personal message.
lucasrenitif 4 months ago
@lucasrenitif um... any proves?....first rule of the internet, never talk about how smart you are, no one will believe you anyways. Give proves, if you realy want to "win" on the internet.
Melifor1989 4 months ago
@Melifor1989 you cant "win" on the internet no matter what is your backing. by arguing on internet you are participating olympic games for retards, if you get gold it only makes you best of retards.
also, who are you to ask for proof?
as to no one believes whats said on the internet- then why do you even care? if i give proof here its still on internet, "tits or GTFO"
lucasrenitif 4 months ago
@lucasrenitif prometheus was a god!
virko1990 1 year ago
@virko1990 yeah, right. keep saying that, some two-year-old might just believe you.
btw i am not that easy troll-bait. go sleep under your bridge...
lucasrenitif 1 year ago
@lucasrenitif shit my bad....i stand corrected
virko1990 9 months ago
@virko1990 this actually made me raise my eyebrows. saying "yes i was wrong ". damn man, all honors to you. i know it tends to be hard to say that out loud.
cheers. tomorrow, when i drink my casual friday beer the first bottle is to your health. cheers.
lucasrenitif 9 months ago
@lucasrenitif percy jackson!!
BugattiVeyronHellYea 5 months ago
@BugattiVeyronHellYea where?
seen it, wasn't impressed.
also, Turman as Gorgona Medusa was a weak performance. knowing myths well i would say the modern demigod business was ok while many other facts were as comercial and BS as a man cold expect. for instance , Hydra, Gorgona, Minotaur, they were all dead. each of them has storyline and simply forgetting it is not a good way to write a story.
lucasrenitif 5 months ago
o ok lol
deeaznkiiid 2 years ago
he was a titan and an immortal not a human
irina87 2 years ago
yep
plzforgiveme987 2 years ago
Got this one and the second movie in dvd
thekingoffutbol 2 years ago
if this film is of the first movie i can wait for the film of the second movie
7192449 2 years ago
Not for just kids but the way it was made was childish. Especially he 2nd one which was crap.
Tuber228756 2 years ago
Because bad words don't hurt people. :)
a5stoz 2 years ago
This could easily be mistaken for an extended trailer for the first movie.
Mas Kudos!
DocWolph 2 years ago 3
can any1 tell me wats the song wen shia takes megan back to her house its like so dont stop to be who u are and so on.. can any1 help me????
ranevane12 2 years ago
EPIC!
tasparakis 2 years ago 2
that was so epic!
darkxzero13 2 years ago
Very nice.
Shimrra3 2 years ago
nice editing. Awesome video.
Articw0lf 2 years ago
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transformers, for kids
saraluvnic 2 years ago
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tvoicefull 2 years ago
Could you put this video again but in HD? thanks the video is awesome 5/5.
FedeBankai 2 years ago
i would never call any other Transformers video "Epic" unless it has the same level as this one, which is a very high level of skill and beauty which i doubt that i'll find in other vids.
lord911 2 years ago 15
Ha, The Third Age is from the Tolien Universe. Its the Era of the Resurfacing of the Ring, Frodo and Sam's Quest. And the war ahead in Return of the King. I think these folks are Tolkien fans like myself.
akatsukimercenary 2 years ago
Absolutely superb! A brilliant video! Beyond epic!
DaveandNic4eva 2 years ago
Most Epic Transformers Video EVER.
newgoblin36 2 years ago 6
You've basically told the whole story in this epic way!!! Awesome!!
TheUltimateShadow64 2 years ago 18
EPIC!!!!!!!
GhostRider792 2 years ago 3
does anyone else think they could hav came up with a better name then "the cube" lol... it sounds funny beuce he has this ominous voice and he's all " the cube -_-" lol i loved this movie =')
mojo92505 2 years ago 7
hmm maybe the golden geometric shape??? ;D
JackDanielsCHS08 2 years ago 2
it would've been better if the thing didn't look like a friggin borg cube
HarbingerRomanus 2 years ago
the best movie ever!!
kidonis89 2 years ago 3
Yes, the first movie was much better than the second one:)
BoyBlueberry 2 years ago 3
Exccept the fact that the trailer itself spoiled too much, this is one epic trailer.
kokoyouth 2 years ago 3
What, the trailer for Transformers is awesome!:)
BoyBlueberry 2 years ago 2
Yeah, I know. Actually I really appreciated the trailer.
kokoyouth 2 years ago
Oh yea. The best video I've seen. Everything was just right. I think this should be the trailer!
wenchiang12 2 years ago 5
The problem is that it would tell to much about the movie, and you would know how it ends:)
BoyBlueberry 2 years ago
Brilliant!!! Youtube needs more Transformers with Immediate music! I LOVE THIS VIDEO!
BoyBlueberry 2 years ago 5
damn nice editing
worm9100 2 years ago
Transformers 2 is AMAZING! Absolutely fantastic! It goes on for ages though, something like 3 hours! Its all good though and the fight scenes are too good to describe! This video is great! Nice one!
ilurvebigbutts 2 years ago 3
very nice editing skills. well done :)
voltronix 2 years ago
wow, that was awesome, can't wait 4 wat u gonna do with transformers 2.
xGeneralGrievousx 2 years ago
awsome!!!
jchi2091 2 years ago
dude this could of been a great trailer when the first transformers came out....good work dude
vietsoulja7 2 years ago
in the new transformers movie what is the name of that music when optimus is fighting megatron and starscream in the woods?
Twismyer 2 years ago
Forest battle.
xAliiBoox 2 years ago 2
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transformers 1 was better
ganning1987 2 years ago
Yes. and no. The plot was better in the first, but the CGI was FREAKING AMAZING IN REVENGE OF THE FALLEN.
xAliiBoox 2 years ago 5
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I'm speechless! By the looks of this, you are an amazing editor! This looks so professional!
5 stars! :)
TheCrushinDarkness 2 years ago 3
I love the direction and timing of this video, and the audio editing is excellent. What program did you use?
BallerGamer 2 years ago
thanks! this was all done in Adobe Premiere Pro CS3
ThirdAgeFilms 2 years ago
hi...after 1:55 what the music style?where can find it?i want know ....thank you
vaioboy0805 1 year ago
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horrible!!! just pure horrible! jk jk jk it was awsome!!!! 5/5
d3l0zi3r 2 years ago
Transformers the movie:
Now featuring Transformers in some parts of the movie!
IAMTHECAPSGODLOL 2 years ago
wicked!
eliteoftheelite 2 years ago
FANTASTIC
sinshenlong 2 years ago
You still fight for the weak!....
padophile 2 years ago
YOU LOSE!
Donnerjack2001 2 years ago 2
Man i hope Optimus kicks major ass in the sequel and not just get thrown around by Megatron. Even though Megatron is going to be in the sequel as well.
s3117 2 years ago 6
Well if you saw the new tralier, he pretty much gets thrown around, I doubt from Megatron, but you never know...
Zexiondood 2 years ago
awesome video and song. I'm going to buy the song right now!
Aggie9921 2 years ago 3
Purchase the album, its absolute beauty!!!!
malicios 2 years ago 3
This is one of my 3 favorites movies of all times! its KICKASS!
Cptklenning 2 years ago 3
AMAZING!
ScarlingRagdoll 2 years ago 2
COOL!
Nerfprime34 2 years ago 2
thank you for inspiring me to make videos I just made a video and there was a video response saying that "Prometheus Rising" the music I used was the best music on youtube your transformers montage inspired me thank you so so much
TheSSSFilms 2 years ago 3
Well you don't have to put it out for EVERYONE TO SEE.
Nerfprime34 2 years ago
this video can replace the normal trailer, its waaaaay better then it.
lord911 2 years ago 3
yes we should show this to micheal bay or something and he can hire thirdagefilms to make a trailer for the transformer upcoming movies and stuff
TheSSSFilms 2 years ago 4
Oh! Fantastic!!! I got chills all over!! :D
Narutoki 2 years ago
you made the movie look way better than it was :)
powerfrenzy 2 years ago 4
Good job man,
AntonyPlaza 3 years ago
Very Cool!! Supscribing. ;)
Renagad05 3 years ago
epic!
youve got a new subscriber^^
theGoldenAgeOfBoredo 3 years ago
FANTASTIC!!!
Schliengen 3 years ago
Cool vid man, really well made
DrgnLord92 3 years ago 4
alright tha is awsome... can someone please tell me the name of EVERY track on that album?
faxmech 3 years ago
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L0neW0lfR1s1ing 3 years ago
OH....MY...GOD! Now THAT was E-P-I-C!!!
ldruiz69 3 years ago 3
It's awesome, no doubt
ZeppelinCze 3 years ago 2
that might just be the coolest thing i've ever seen
raglef1lagle 3 years ago 3
Very nice job!
SSFJ26 3 years ago 3
that was really well done!
userdname 3 years ago 2
DAMN that was awesome.
I only disagree with making Optimus say "We are here, we are waiting..."
I think that should've happened at the very end as it faded to black. Other than that, well done!
Magnetic1406 3 years ago 2
great stuff!
5/5.
horrormoviefan02 3 years ago 3